The Jam Room Blog Thread.

[everdrone]

swampy muddy thick dirty flabby down n' dirty honk rockin bass tone is what I crave!!!!   

[Lumpy]

If the CL has the classic SVT toggle switches, then you have a ton of control over your EQ, especially the critical midrange, and you should be able to get what you want.

[Jake]

http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/4511018742.html

[VOLVO)))]

so much immense want....

[liquidsmoke]

Why should inexperienced people use flat monitors over say a stereo they regularly listen to when mixing and mastering? You're just going to burn CDRs and test out the mix that way anyway. Monitors for pros and people that regularly mix? Makes sense.

[Corey Y]

I love my Ampeg 810e cab, but owning an SVT-CL was one of the biggest gear disappointments I've had. I got mine for a good price, it was in great condition, it was loud as hell...but it just didn't wow me tonally at all. I preferred my old Traynor YBA-1 or the GK 800RB I had at the time by a mile. While I owned it I sold the GK and bought an MB800 as a backup and ended up keeping it and selling the Ampeg. It just sounded sterile to me, every solid state amp I owned had more personality, which was surprising and frustrating.

[VOLVO)))]

I love my Ampeg 810e cab, but owning an SVT-CL was one of the biggest gear disappointments I've had. I got mine for a good price, it was in great condition, it was loud as hell...but it just didn't wow me tonally at all. I preferred my old Traynor YBA-1 or the GK 800RB I had at the time by a mile. While I owned it I sold the GK and bought an MB800 as a backup and ended up keeping it and selling the Ampeg. It just sounded sterile to me, every solid state amp I owned had more personality, which was surprising and frustrating.

See, I'm not nuts, afterall.

[Lumpy]

Why should inexperienced people use flat monitors over say a stereo they regularly listen to when mixing and mastering? You're just going to burn CDRs and test out the mix that way anyway. Monitors for pros and people that regularly mix? Makes sense.

Listen on as many different speakers as possible. Monitors are good because they're more accurate than your stereo speakers. So you'll know what you actually have in your mix, not just the frequencies that your stereo speakers emphasize.

[everdrone]

ya if you listen with a regular stereo equipped to sound good, it will mask the offending frequencies you are trying to mix

but mixing speaker monitors are not really that helpful if the room acoustics and room treatment are not good as I have learned since mine are bad.  so no reason to dive in deep for me!

[Lumpy]

Your room acoustics aren't as critical if you are listening to your mixes at low levels, IMO. It matters more if you are rocking out (reflections interfere more, etc). You can mix at conversational volume level and then check your mix loud in your car, etc.

/just my stupid opinion, my room sucks too

[liquidsmoke]

I'm talking frequencies as well as speakers. Monitors make mixes sound super hi-fi too. I like to keep the going back and adjusting the mix to a minimum because say the bass is way too loud in my car using my normal EQ settings, etc.

Our ep is only going to be 3 songs.. kinda thinking about looking into lower cost pros and cheap but knowledgable amateurs to get a better sound(mixing/mastering). Anyone have any recommendations?

[everdrone]

you could record the tracks and then post in a thread on andy sneap forum to get people to do em for cheap or free

[Danny G]

First Ocean of Stars rehearsal in about 3 months last night.

Weren't as rusty as we thought we be, but def some rust heh.

I need to practice guitar and this music in general at home way more. That, or starting writing aside shit to play hahaha


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[RAGER]

Are the other members like you and are are working players that have other gigs?  Cuz from my experience if I let shit go for 3 months I'd come back and everybody would be in different bands. Shit if your a good drummer around here you have no choice but to be in at least 2 bands.

[everdrone]

ya here in austin it is a constantly rotating cast of merry melody makerz

I bet they are some enlightened circle of friends?   j/k sisterhood of the traveling pants??? just kiddingz

[Danny G]

I play in three bands with the drummer, and like myself he's involved in a half-dozen projects.

The sax player is in three bands.

This is the only project the bassist is currently involved in.

I feel very fortunate to have assembled a group of players who really dig the music. And are cool with it being (for now at least) a boundary-pushing musical venture rather than money-making. I take care of them as best I can (eating the jam room cost when I can, letting the bassist use my rig, etc)


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[everdrone]

would it make sense to rent a storage garage?  I know music labs charges like $15 an hour, and storage garage might only be $100-$200 a month and you could use that for all your bands, maybe that would help with landing better projects in the future?  You prolly already contemplated this, but just in case

[Danny G]

Most of my bands don't rehearse often enough (if at all) to necessitate a permanent practice spot. Or they have a spot covered.

I use my gear too often to leave it anywhere.

But it wouldn't be a bad idea if I had it in my budget. I have a PA and drums, would be nice to have them set up rather than sitting in my storage unit-storage unit.

We rehearse at Space. It's nicer, smaller, less noisy, and the name is very appropriate heh! It's worth the extra $3 per hour to not be surrounded by death metal bands.


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[everdrone]

ETB played a lot of cover songs the few times I saw em play.  would you ever consider joining a cover band?  more $ that way, maybe the cover band would share the cost of the rental storage air conditioned room at like $200/month

[Danny G]

Already playing covers with a band on Wed's/Fri's downtown. And have never rehearsed with them hahaha

The money isn't what I would like, but they are good dudes and fun to play with. And it's better than NOT playing every wed/fri that's for sure. Still on the hunt for a more stable-income related project so I can pare down the number of projects I am spreading myself too thin between in the often fruitless pursuit of trying to stay on top of bills.

ETB makes a living wage, but it was just time for me to move on. And it was damn near impossible while playing with them to put my own band together (Ocean of Stars), which was my first priority upon leaving. Now that I have a line-up, I need to make more money.

[everdrone]

original bands in Austin is really tough since all the touring indie bands like to stop here to play to the college kids

my fav original bands play out like every 3 months to small crowds, and most original bands that I liked 3 years ago have fizzed out...

[Danny G]

Yup. The Austin Curse is still kind of in effect.

Original bands here either do well here and nowhere else, or do well on the road and wallow in obscurity here.


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[mutantcolors]

Hey, look on the bright side. Band from here (Boise) wallow in obscurity regardless.

[Danny G]

Heh


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[xayk]

Hey, look on the bright side. Band from here (Boise) wallow in obscurity regardless.

Uzala rule, and I'm over 2000 miles away.