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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on November 14, 2012, 07:10:20 PM
You know you wanna.

I'll start. My 2-piece metal band has been progressing at a glacial pace. It just so happens that a friend of mine just booted the drummer out of her garage/punk band (think Mummies/X-Ray Spex), so I'm gonna try that out. I'm not quitting the other band, just getting my wiggles out, so to speak. Hopefully that will take the edge off and keep me sane until the other band gets the fuck in gear.

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Post by: Jake on November 14, 2012, 07:18:59 PM
I pee inside my own butt.
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Post by: Discö Rice on November 14, 2012, 07:21:41 PM
For the sake of the Jam Room and everyone that posts here I hope you recorded your butt piss.
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Post by: bitter on November 14, 2012, 07:22:11 PM
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Post by: Discö Rice on November 14, 2012, 07:43:10 PM
Perhaps I could poop in your pee-filled butt, and we could record that.
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Post by: Jor el on November 14, 2012, 07:50:09 PM

How close do you place the mic for such a recording ?
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Post by: Jor el on November 14, 2012, 07:51:33 PM

....or were you talking aboot videotaping it ?

My Bad
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Post by: Metal and Beer on November 14, 2012, 07:52:15 PM
You use a DI....directly inside ! :D
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Post by: Discö Rice on November 14, 2012, 07:56:45 PM
M&B's right - and I would add a contact mic for definition, and a couple of of overheads panned soft left and right for a nice stereo picture.
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Post by: RacerX on November 14, 2012, 08:03:51 PM
...and some corn for texture.
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Post by: Jor el on November 14, 2012, 08:05:11 PM
If I know Jake - there will be plenty of natural reverb.
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Post by: bitter on November 14, 2012, 08:07:38 PM
I was gonna suggest a piezo-shit pickup adhered to your taint, but I don't know how you would insulate the electronics.
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Post by: Jake on November 14, 2012, 08:57:06 PM
I have never made love to a homeless man, at least as far as I remember.

Thanks for listening guys. It really feels good to get this off my chest. Along with the log of hooker poop.
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Post by: rayinreverse on November 14, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
It'll only sound good if its N.O.S. pee.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on November 15, 2012, 03:49:39 AM
Sometimes I feel like I'm in way over my head writing/playing somewhat more trad doom/classic metal whatever influenced stuff and should go for more of an Electric Wizard/Sleep sludgy stoner looser sound with easier vocal parts with more effects. It would be lower pressure and possibly more fun because it would be easier.
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Post by: khoomeizhi on November 15, 2012, 07:08:59 AM
i think trying to tie yourself directly to one sound that already exists is definitely more difficult than just playing to what sounds and feels good to you, yep.
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Post by: moose23 on November 15, 2012, 07:39:57 AM
Quote from: khoomeizhi on November 15, 2012, 07:08:59 AM
i think trying to tie yourself directly to one sound that already exists is definitely more difficult than just playing to what sounds and feels good to you, yep.

What he said.
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Post by: Instant Dan on November 15, 2012, 10:01:41 AM
I auditioned for a band a few week back which was a 90's rock/grunge/alt. act. I think I did good on the audition but I told them I did not have much experience in the gigging scene as most of the bands I was in never took off and I put it on hold for school. Their response was 'we don't an amateur or someone too junior but rather a lifer'. I have no idea what that means.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on November 15, 2012, 10:22:03 AM
Probably means they are full of shit.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on November 15, 2012, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: moose23 on November 15, 2012, 07:39:57 AM
Quote from: khoomeizhi on November 15, 2012, 07:08:59 AM
i think trying to tie yourself directly to one sound that already exists is definitely more difficult than just playing to what sounds and feels good to you, yep.

What he said.


It does sound and feel good, it's just more challenging in certain ways than other approaches that I'm also into. Challenge can be good though. Actually last night I for the third time rewrote one of my leads so it's easier, I was fucking it up too much and I'm not into practicing 2 hours a day so it had kind of had to be done.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on November 15, 2012, 11:02:37 AM
Quote from: moose23 on November 15, 2012, 10:22:03 AM
Probably means they are full of shit.
In most cases, yes.
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Post by: Dr.Zayus on November 15, 2012, 12:07:11 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on November 14, 2012, 07:10:20 PM
You know you wanna.

I'll start. My 2-piece metal band has been progressing at a glacial pace. It just so happens that a friend of mine just booted the drummer out of her garage/punk band (think Mummies/X-Ray Spex), so I'm gonna try that out. I'm not quitting the other band, just getting my wiggles out, so to speak. Hopefully that will take the edge off and keep me sane until the other band gets the fuck in gear.



Sounds like a good idea. I was extremely frustrated with my 70s rock styled band's slow progression, so I started up another project and we just played our first gig. I figured out that instead of getting frustrated with the snail paced progress and and getting in arguments with my bandmates, I'd just spend the extra time I wanted to be jamming on a new project and not worry so much about things beyond my control(other people wanting to/being able to make time). First show went awesome. Stoked that I'm in 2 good bands now!
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Post by: the diddler on November 15, 2012, 12:32:13 PM
I need a new project, or to retire again.  Seems to be getting harder to even get a jam session together with the current band.
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Post by: RAGER on November 15, 2012, 12:37:03 PM
^^Too bad we weren't closer.  I been getting the itch to play drums again bad.  After I finish up studio stuff with The Black Budget I wanna play more drums rather than guitar.

When I get this way I have a tendency to go and jam with bands that I have no intention to play with just to see the reaction to my drumming.  If they think I'm killer and I think they suck then I think I suck cuz if they suck how the hell could they think I'm a killer drummer.  I'm just a fucking guitar player.  What do they know?  I think part of it is to get an ego boost so my confidence is up and I feel better aboot my drum skillz.  I'm a dick.
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Post by: Chovie D on November 15, 2012, 12:44:25 PM
the doom "band" I'm currently in has gotten together 3 times in the year and a half we've been "together" and one of the "members" has not showed up for all 3 times  :D.
got aboot 8 songs oot of that that I think are really good tho..hope they see daylight sometime.

pedal steel, I rarely practice anymore so Im rusting badly. Without being in a band its hard to motivate myself to play the thing.
I cant stand those country rock bands anymore  tho...I guess I need some studio work so i dont have to deal with those bands, but can still be motivated to play. problem is I'm not the best person in town for studio pedal steel, not even close.

I'm considering turning my studio into a grow room and selling off a bunch of my stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on November 15, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: Dr.Zayus on November 15, 2012, 12:07:11 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on November 14, 2012, 07:10:20 PM
You know you wanna.

I'll start. My 2-piece metal band has been progressing at a glacial pace. It just so happens that a friend of mine just booted the drummer out of her garage/punk band (think Mummies/X-Ray Spex), so I'm gonna try that out. I'm not quitting the other band, just getting my wiggles out, so to speak. Hopefully that will take the edge off and keep me sane until the other band gets the fuck in gear.



Sounds like a good idea. I was extremely frustrated with my 70s rock styled band's slow progression, so I started up another project and we just played our first gig. I figured out that instead of getting frustrated with the snail paced progress and and getting in arguments with my bandmates, I'd just spend the extra time I wanted to be jamming on a new project and not worry so much about things beyond my control(other people wanting to/being able to make time). First show went awesome. Stoked that I'm in 2 good bands now!
That's encouraging. I've been a little tense lately. Hopefully once this gets going I'll find the other stuff easier to deal with.
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Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 15, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
We need to get our stuff back on track, with my surgery we haven't been able to rehearse and get ready to play shows. Good thing is that now we have decent equipment to do a show so that's 1 problem we don't have anymore. We keep getting offers for shows from friends who we've sent rehearsal recordings but we just can't for the moment. It blows.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on November 16, 2012, 10:49:51 PM
Just spent an hour riffing some Sabbathy/Electric Wizardy stuff on my Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz. Fun. Liking this unit a lot more now than when I first got it. Doing a studio only solo Sab/EW/Sleep ripoff project based around this unit could be really fun even if nobody thought it was any good. Minimal lyrics about occult topics, big dumb easy drums, 4-5 riffs per song, psych effects on the leads..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: chille01 on November 17, 2012, 04:00:01 AM
Quote from: Chovie D on November 15, 2012, 12:44:25 PM
the doom "band" I'm currently in has gotten together 3 times in the year and a half we've been "together" and one of the "members" has not showed up for all 3 times  :D.
got aboot 8 songs oot of that that I think are really good tho..hope they see daylight sometime.

pedal steel, I rarely practice anymore so Im rusting badly. Without being in a band its hard to motivate myself to play the thing.
I cant stand those country rock bands anymore  tho...I guess I need some studio work so i dont have to deal with those bands, but can still be motivated to play. problem is I'm not the best person in town for studio pedal steel, not even close.

I'm considering turning my studio into a grow room and selling off a bunch of my stuff.

Chovie, if you're just looking for something new to jam that pedal steel to, I got a country song with bed tracks that is dying for some decent steel work.  I have put my own ham fisted lap steel licks on it already, but would easily kill that track for someone who can do better.  Simple tune about being hungover.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on November 17, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
A friend of mine got an Agile AL-2000 LP. It's beautiful and although I didn't play it plugged in it feels flawless.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on November 19, 2012, 12:13:41 AM
Just jammed with a chick who asked me why I move so much when I play. I didn't have answer, so I tried to stand still, and I couldn't bend properly or keep in groove. Then I had an answer.

/body player
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Post by: The Riffer on November 19, 2012, 12:46:06 AM
peepee dance.
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Post by: bitter on November 19, 2012, 12:46:38 AM
 :D
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Post by: VOLVO))) on November 19, 2012, 09:25:31 AM
Quote from: The Riffer on November 19, 2012, 12:46:06 AM
peepee dance.



0:26, shut up, Mark  ;D
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Post by: fallen on November 19, 2012, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 19, 2012, 12:13:41 AM
Just jammed with a chick who asked me why I move so much when I play. I didn't have answer, so I tried to stand still, and I couldn't bend properly or keep in groove. Then I had an answer.

/body player


An old friend of mine who's a chef now but was a KILLER white blues player had a partial version of this in his face.

Looked totally normal/comfortable on stage until he kicked his wah on which would trigger his involuntary "wah wah" mouth movements.

Wide open mouth for the high end of the wah sweep and George W. Bush monkey face for the low end.

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Post by: I,Galactus on November 19, 2012, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: fallen on November 19, 2012, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 19, 2012, 12:13:41 AM
Just jammed with a chick who asked me why I move so much when I play. I didn't have answer, so I tried to stand still, and I couldn't bend properly or keep in groove. Then I had an answer.

/body player
An old friend of mine who's a chef now but was a KILLER white blues player had a partial version of this in his face.

Looked totally normal/comfortable on stage until he kicked his wah on which would trigger his involuntary "wah wah" mouth movements.

Wide open mouth for the high end of the wah sweep and George W. Bush monkey face for the low end.
Robin Trower's a chef now?  :D

(http://logicalleadguitar.com/magazine/wp-content/uploads/2009/articles/Trower/RobinTrower1.jpg)
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Post by: RacerX on November 19, 2012, 04:15:32 PM
When did Robin go with the pink dye job? Looks kinda silly on an older dude...
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Post by: Jake on November 19, 2012, 04:19:53 PM
Quit picking on a fella mid-poop.
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Post by: RacerX on November 19, 2012, 05:05:15 PM
Quote from: Jake on November 19, 2012, 04:19:53 PM
Quit picking on a fella mid-poop.

I was sure that was a "Fuck, this ingrown toenail HURTS!!!" face, but you might have a point there.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on November 20, 2012, 12:54:07 PM
Wondering if one of those newer lightweight Crown XLS power amps would sound okay for guitar. I'm also a bit skeptical about the loudness factor with class D. I currently have two 8 ohm cabs that are each rated at 300 watts. I want to hit them with as much power as they can handle for maximum volume.
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Post by: Instant Dan on November 20, 2012, 01:05:32 PM
I've noticed since I have been approaching guitar with a more 'let's just have fun' mind-set instead of 'I need to know how to play this by week's end' my playing, oddly, has gotten better. Not playing circles around anyone but my playing seems more devoid of errors (fret noise, wrong notes) than usual.
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Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 21, 2012, 04:15:38 AM
The mother of the drummer just came by to pickup my amps since all 3 of us don't have a drivers license.

/rocknroll
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Post by: Andrew Blakk on November 21, 2012, 05:19:28 AM
I'm really looking forward to tonights rehearsal...  :)

Got some new riffs to try out.  :P
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Post by: Dylan Thomas on November 21, 2012, 08:28:57 AM
Practicing with the Palace boys today.  Always looking forward to that, playing with my best friends and such.  Two more practices before our first gig back, playing a set of basically all new material, and we sound better than we ever have.  Who would have thought... :D
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Post by: RAGER on November 21, 2012, 01:46:27 PM
I responded to a CL add the other day.  Bass player looking for a drummer to jam with.  Told him he could use my bass amp so he didn't have to drag a bunch of shit over but hoped that he wasn't a complete novice.  Haven't heard back.  I hope he wasn't turned off about the part about having pro hair/pro attitude.
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Post by: eyeprod on November 21, 2012, 08:42:54 PM
I also replied to a CL ad the other day. A bass player looking for a band.

I sent him a short note and a video clip telling him we're looking. He replies that he doesn't think he's on our level, detailing that he's probably not good enough. At least he was honest, but c'mon man, you're looking for a metal band and you can't play power chords, down pick, and headbang a little?
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Post by: Metal and Beer on November 21, 2012, 09:02:17 PM
Santa0))) came early! Jake hooked me the fuck up with a partially disabled Sunn Concert Bass for shipcost. The power amp works great so I'm gonna use it as a slave for my Randall 140 (which sounds badass but isn't too burly for bass by itself)

Thanks again brutha Jake0)))) !!  \m/  If you ever need he'p from Little Rock, you now "know a guy" ;D
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Post by: the diddler on November 24, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
goin out to the coast this week to get my head together, might take some acid- haven't done that in about 20 years
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Post by: eyeprod on November 24, 2012, 03:38:09 PM
I went out the the dunes and picked some mushrooms yesterday. Made some tea. Laughed my ass of watching duck dynasty for a couple of hours then listened to some music I've been working on. Thought of some cool shit for the band to focus on. It was a good head clean. Screen printing some stuff today, and I'm feeling good.
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Post by: mutantcolors on November 26, 2012, 12:59:32 AM
Quote from: the diddler on November 24, 2012, 12:22:52 PM
goin out to the coast this week to get my head together, might take some acid- haven't done that in about 20 years

20yrs is way too long of a break sir.

The coast will never look the same.
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Post by: RAGER on November 27, 2012, 06:06:08 PM
gonna get a pretty rad deal on a bass tomorrow from a friend.  I'll trade $100 and a Boss OS-2 for a parts Jazz bass.  Fender tuners, passive EMG p/u, Allparts neck, Squire body, Switchcraft pots and jacks, Gotoh bridge, aluminum nut.  He's a killer bass player and used it on their last record.  they aint no slouches either.

i'm not a "bass player" so I'm sure I'll be happy with it.  The last band I played bass in I used a borrowed Jazz Bass and I dug it so....

Pretty stoked.

P.S.  i aint eatin acid ever again.  got way too many things on my mind these days
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Post by: Instant Dan on November 29, 2012, 11:20:11 AM
You think it would be worth it to sell my current JCM 800 and use the money to finance a Ceriatone JCM 800 head with a power-scaling switch? Or should I just get an attenuator?
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Post by: RAGER on November 29, 2012, 01:24:17 PM
Something wrong with the master volume?
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Post by: Instant Dan on November 29, 2012, 01:34:22 PM
Yes, I put the pre-amp on 10 and the Master on 1 but it's too loud. /s
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Post by: RacerX on November 29, 2012, 04:05:46 PM
Lately I've been experiencing a strong and growing love for and appreciation of the blues. I've been listening to, playing & writing a lot of blues. Although I'm not a lawyer, I wonder if this could be a bad thing?

Nevertheless, I'm seriously enjoying the emphasis on emotion & guts and lack of technical expectations in the genre. There's something extremely honest about this music that I'm connecting with more and more.
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Post by: mortlock on November 29, 2012, 11:56:05 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/293147_492833340729235_150203887_n.jpg)
my moog seems to be getting all the action right now..havent used my other synths that much lately..
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Post by: zachoff on November 30, 2012, 12:18:03 AM
The Micro VR -> SVT210 & SVT115 is turning out to be pretty damned awesome for a $500 rig.

Woodford Reserve is excellent bourbon.

Oskar Blues Gubna is excellent beer.
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Post by: Instant Dan on November 30, 2012, 09:07:19 AM
I'm more partial to Dale's Pale Ale and Ol' Yella.
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Post by: Dylan Thomas on December 02, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
Played the first Palace In Thunderland show in five years, and the first real set I've played on stage in a year and a half.  Packed house, that's always a plus (except for the two fights, one involving the opening band...), everyone seemed to be having a lot of fun, and we had a real lot of fun.
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Post by: moose23 on December 02, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
Got my SG back up and running again, very happy.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on December 02, 2012, 04:24:43 PM
Bought a faded SG with hardcase in mint condish for 200$. Gonna flip it for 400$ because I'm souless, and it feels souless.
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Post by: Worthless Willie on December 02, 2012, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: RacerX on November 29, 2012, 04:05:46 PM
Lately I've been experiencing a strong and growing love for and appreciation of the blues. I've been listening to, playing & writing a lot of blues. Although I'm not a lawyer, I wonder if this could be a bad thing?

Nevertheless, I'm seriously enjoying the emphasis on emotion & guts and lack of technical expectations in the genre. There's something extremely honest about this music that I'm connecting with more and more.

Yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with playing/loving the blues.
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Post by: fallen on December 02, 2012, 09:30:32 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on November 29, 2012, 11:20:11 AM
You think it would be worth it to sell my current JCM 800 and use the money to finance a Ceriatone JCM 800 head with a power-scaling switch? Or should I just get an attenuator?

Attenuator. I have the Dr. Z one and it's low tech but works. And they are the type of thing you can find on CL for cheap. When times are tough it's the first thing people sell before guitars or amps or effects.
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Post by: Lumpy on December 02, 2012, 10:24:49 PM
Or just get a 99 dollar Valve Jr. head, and save the big amp for shows/band practice.
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Post by: Jor el on December 02, 2012, 10:45:54 PM

Hey aJake,

I see Cowtown changed hands, and location.
Still a good shop?
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Post by: Jake on December 03, 2012, 09:43:33 AM
Mark sold Cowtown to Jesse (and his wife) about 2 years ago. Jesse had been at Cowtown forever, and Mark moved to Oklahoma a long time ago, so it was a pretty smooth and natural transition. He then moved the shop to Downtown Vegas about a year or so ago. Better space and way less rent. They even have room for a fulltime amp repair, guitar repair, and (I think) a custom guitar builder/luthier there now.

It's still a great shop, with plenty of lustworthy gear. It's one of those places where you aren't necessarily going to get a deal of a lifetime, because they know their shit top to bottom, front to back. That said, the prices I'd still consider fair, and most definitely worth a trip there when in LV.
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Post by: RacerX on December 04, 2012, 10:14:33 PM
I just resigned from the band I've been playing with for a few months. Musically, it was an enjoyable experience, but there was too much drama for my liking. Ah, well...
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Post by: jibberish on December 05, 2012, 07:14:56 PM
the blues rules. you go.

my make basement into studio/music room keeps taking twists.
I should have been done by now, but I fucked up my shoulder and have to just look at unfinished shit.
since I had to buy a pc vs mics and extra phones, I also had to set it up for music.
my winXP pc had the drivers for my old soundblaster Audigy platinum. the platinum had a whole extra I/O unit that fit into the front of a PC in a CD slot.
I had stereo line in 1+2, aux in styereo, spdif digital stereo in and mic 1 and 2 mono ins...10 fucking simultaneous inputs. 8 analog and my old reaper version could see and choose any source..so I was set for 8 track recording. monitor and output any which way..so sweet. no thoughts about a new HD recorder.
well no drivers for the Audigy software mixer so win 8 just gives a choice of 1 thing as a stereo source. reaper is all slick and crappy looking. fuck this.
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Post by: jibberish on December 08, 2012, 01:30:01 PM
so after going back and forth between building another winXPmusic machine for my awesome, but antiquated sound card, or stay current with technology, I decided to let the old soundcard go and just go ahead and exist with 2 channel pc I/o.   so I ordered a multitrack recorder to replace the old soundcard.  and I will have my 8 inputs back again, and everything will be current tech.

the shoulder is feeling better day by day. now is the hard part: holding off doing too much even tho arm/shoulder feels better. 
I messed it up right in the middle of playing with that little amp, building my music room/studio, and life in general.
I had no idea I was such a busy guy until I had to take 2 weeks off from life.
I had no idea how massively, being gimped out, sucks
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Post by: mutantcolors on December 08, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Not sure what you did but there are some decent fitness blogs out there by guys who work with MLB players, so they know some real deal shoulder rehab techniques you can do at home with an exercise band and a tennis ball.

http://www.tonygentilcore.com/

http://www.dieselsc.com/
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Post by: liquidsmoke on December 08, 2012, 04:04:23 PM
Side project in the works. Late '90s Electric Wizard/Sabbath/Sleep influenced stoner sludge doom 2 piece or solo studio project if I can't find a drummer. Signal split to my guitar rig and a bass amp, some psych effects but mostly Behr/Boss fuzz. Loads of reverb and delay on the vocals. The world does not need another band/project like this but I'm doing it anyway. The riffs.
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Post by: jibberish on December 08, 2012, 06:51:17 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on December 08, 2012, 02:56:32 PM
Not sure what you did but there are some decent fitness blogs out there by guys who work with MLB players, so they know some real deal shoulder rehab techniques you can do at home with an exercise band and a tennis ball.

http://www.tonygentilcore.com/

http://www.dieselsc.com/


those sites are great. I got so sidetracked , but all kinds of shoulder lore too. thx. I had no idea sites like this were out there.
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Post by: mutantcolors on December 08, 2012, 07:37:53 PM
I had some pretty heinous chronic shoulder pain for a couple years, from driving pizza 45hrs a week for 5 yrs and drumming and shitty posture. Info I got from Diesel Crew helped me overcome it/keep it in check. Face Pulls and self myofascial release (painful as balls until you get used to it) helped a lot. I usually use the firmest med ball available at the gym but Tuff Balls (dog toy tennis ball) work great too.
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Post by: bass sic on December 09, 2012, 07:37:47 PM
I've decided to not go with a dedicated recording unit like a tascam or something and stick with reaper. I'm even going to finally buy the program instead of just using the trial version. I have a spare computer to dedicate the whole setup on, and my old drummer is going to show me a few tricks to make the reaper easier as I'm a retard with technology. I've been able to lay down a couple rough tracks with guitar and bass, but nothing even remotely professional sounding. Yet.
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Post by: mortlock on December 09, 2012, 08:34:36 PM
i threw a drunken bid on a moog synth on ebay last night..fuckin good thing i got out bid..that was close..
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Post by: bass sic on December 09, 2012, 09:30:39 PM
Booze and ebay are a no no for me. I've ended up with way too much stuff that way.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on December 10, 2012, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: bass sic on December 09, 2012, 09:30:39 PM
Booze and ebay are a no no for me. I've ended up with way too much stuff that way.

Truth, but I do it sober too...

I need SunnJake to save me from myself.  Wanting to get a cheap tube amp or that EH sitar pedal...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 10, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
Quote from: The Bandit on December 10, 2012, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: bass sic on December 09, 2012, 09:30:39 PM
Booze and ebay are a no no for me. I've ended up with way too much stuff that way.

Truth, but I do it sober too...

I need SunnJake to save me from myself.  Wanting to get a cheap tube amp or that EH sitar pedal...

No. Stop buying shit, Damn it. I'm just going to start keeping it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on December 10, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
Thank you.  Sounds like I should get the Sitar pedal.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 10, 2012, 12:15:56 PM
I will keep it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on December 10, 2012, 01:26:03 PM
You don't even keep the pedals I send you to keep...
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 10, 2012, 01:46:12 PM
Ill keep that one. Hahaha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on December 10, 2012, 01:54:10 PM
You played one?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 10, 2012, 02:12:01 PM
Briefly, it's pretty fun, limited effectiveness though, IMO.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on December 10, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
Quote from: bass sic on December 09, 2012, 07:37:47 PM
I've decided to not go with a dedicated recording unit like a tascam or something and stick with reaper. I'm even going to finally buy the program instead of just using the trial version. I have a spare computer to dedicate the whole setup on, and my old drummer is going to show me a few tricks to make the reaper easier as I'm a retard with technology. I've been able to lay down a couple rough tracks with guitar and bass, but nothing even remotely professional sounding. Yet.

The trial version of Reaper has all the features activated so there is no difference in how it works if you buy it. Having said that I paid for mine just to support the people that created a great and cheap alternative to pro-tools and such.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on December 10, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
So... GC might fail in April.  Hooray?

http://thetoneking.com/wp/life-support-how-long-until-they-pull-the-plug-on-guitar-center/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on December 10, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
I have a feeling they'll make it out of bankruptcy, then again, Mars Music did not.

If they don't, I expect Best Buy and Wal-Mart to pick up the slack.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on December 10, 2012, 09:13:41 PM
Best Buy is failing too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 10, 2012, 09:40:55 PM
There is a God?  i am confuse
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 10, 2012, 10:04:37 PM
I'm very glad to be temporarily done researching and shopping for gear and I suspect some of you are as well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on December 10, 2012, 10:20:22 PM
Back in my hands is a sweet vintage cabinet I picked up a few yrs back. Torn between keeping it/selling it. Need the $ to fund getting to Thailand for my last year of school, but it's bad ass and rather irreplaceable and I'd end up buying another anyway...but damn, money.

It has G12-65s from around 1980. The are an eargasm.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on December 10, 2012, 11:57:57 PM

This looks like a coffee table.
I love it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibson-SG-Standard-Early-1970s-Made-in-USA-Electric-Guitar-/271116883255?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f1fd35537
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 11, 2012, 12:34:21 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on December 10, 2012, 10:20:22 PM
Back in my hands is a sweet vintage cabinet I picked up a few yrs back. Torn between keeping it/selling it. Need the $ to fund getting to Thailand for my last year of school, but it's bad ass and rather irreplaceable and I'd end up buying another anyway...but damn, money.

It has G12-65s from around 1980. The are an eargasm.
Talk to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on December 11, 2012, 12:46:13 AM
I'm kinda torn, still thinking. Fucking thing is hard to value too. Who has an inch thick solid oak cabinet for comparison? Plus I thought it had different speakers, not that there's anything wrong with the 65s, quite the contrary in fact, but I had all this research done, thinking they were something else. I'll shoot a PM when I figure something out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 11, 2012, 12:49:17 AM
If memory serves me right is it one them there Legends?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on December 11, 2012, 01:06:20 AM
Good memorying, sir. Straight 4x12, the wicker is all in tact. Cab could use a sand and redo if you want it to look like a new piece of furniture but it's all in nice condition for being from 1980 (I believe.) edit - yes, production code MN15 dates them to Dec 15, 1980.

I almost got around to hitting it with some sand paper and tung oil one day, but once you go with an oil finish you never go back.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/photo437.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/photo437.jpg/)

Alright, enough "for sale thread" stuff for this thread.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 11, 2012, 02:08:10 AM
You're going to school in Thailand for your last year? Do you go to the University of Awesome? ???

What kind of program is that?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 11, 2012, 06:18:44 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on December 11, 2012, 02:08:10 AM
You're going to school in Thailand for your last year? Do you go to the University of Awesome? ???

What kind of program is that?

do you know how to make thai sticks correctly?  and neither do I.  I say proceed with the important education that will then benefit us all. so buy that mack truck cabinet.

btw, this no inline pic thing is sad
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

so music PC will still have reaper and audacity. if I do any construction with wave file chunks or loops, I will still do it on the PC. the usb from the multitrack will be fine for moving things in non-realtime for the most part, and it does have a line out which I will probably just run to the main stereo for playback/monitoring/trcking.  my son is going to hang out with me this coming weekend to strongarm a bunch of crap to help finish this room up already.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 11, 2012, 09:00:12 AM
Eh, thai sticks are easy:

1) Soak semi-cured buds in honey oil

2) Form buds around stick (bamboo) & tie on with hemp thread

3) Allow to fully cure

I say fuck the stick part & just soak big buds in honey oil.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on December 11, 2012, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: RacerX on December 11, 2012, 09:00:12 AM
Eh, thai sticks are easy:

1) Soak semi-cured buds in honey oil

2) Form buds around stick (bamboo) & tie on with hemp thread

3) Allow to fully cure

I say fuck the stick part & just soak big buds in honey oil.

I thought it was hash oil rather than honey oil. Been so long since I've seen any hash oil. Used to be lovely stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 11, 2012, 10:27:11 AM
Droning notes into a crazy fuzz pedal and tons of spring like reverb sounds awesome and mystical temple like.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on December 11, 2012, 11:10:21 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on December 11, 2012, 02:08:10 AM
You're going to school in Thailand for your last year? Do you go to the University of Awesome? ???

What kind of program is that?

It's a direct exchange arrangement one of my professors set up for the architecture program at University of Idaho. I pay the same tuition here, a student there does the same, and we trade locations. Assuming it all works out I'll graduate from U of I but I'll be in Bangkok, free of any immediate responsibility, hopefully still free of any AIDS of heroin addictions, and ready to do some world travel, with an eye on Himalayan trekking. Got a buddy who plans to meet me there as he'll be ending a military contracting deployment in Afghanistan around that time.


Oh yeah, also, I already have the Mack Truck cabinet. If I can hack by w/o selling it is the question at hand.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 11, 2012, 09:41:28 PM
I'm going to Bangkok for Christmas, I'm super excited. That's why I'm curious about your program. Language barrier seems pretty steep, but they are surely somewhat used to English-only dopes running around town by now. For me it's Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phnom Penh and Siem Reap (Cambodia). Worst time of the year to travel (peak tourist season) but also the coolest (only in the 80s/90s). First time in SE Asia, a much needed vacation. I wish I could have done something like this when I was in college, great idea.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on December 11, 2012, 10:40:11 PM
Sometimes I fantasize about giving everything up and going to Thailand to join a temple and become a Buddhist monk.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 11, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: The Shocker on December 11, 2012, 10:40:11 PM
Sometimes I fantasize about giving everything up and going to Thailand to join a brothel and become a Buddhist pimp.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 12, 2012, 01:25:34 AM
Bring me back a souvinere. Preferably not a lady boy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on December 12, 2012, 08:09:06 AM
Ravi Shankar just began his interdimensional/alternative-consciousness tour.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 13, 2012, 12:28:09 AM
ya rip ravi  :(

so I tried playing some guitar. that lasted about 5 minutes. there is just some shoulder extension having your arm over the guitar body and it got uncomfortable pretty fast.
I have starting to do easy flexing using pain/discomfort as my feedback.   definitely on the mend..just keep going real easy yet...
I am not starting rehab excercises yet..gut feeling is the stuff isn't solidly mended yet, so i'm just maintaining a little flexibility vs loading the joints.
I am very very glad I have religiously stretched my shoulders all along. I just stretch while zapping my tea or warming up coffee while waiting for the microwave.

pity the stu that has done nothing for shoulder muscle tone or flexibility that fucks his shoulder up.  this sucked royal and still sucks..and I am in reasonable shape.

note to all: don't separate your shoulder, it is a "next level" fuck up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on December 13, 2012, 01:18:49 AM
Playing w/ a new band.  More punk rock than metal but I still dig it.  More to come when we get some stuff written/recorded.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 13, 2012, 01:38:44 AM
you can never have too much punk influence..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on December 15, 2012, 02:53:29 AM
Had last rehearsal yesterday before we go into hibernation due to exams. Songs are coming along nicely.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 16, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
The gun ban thread in general discussion gave me an idea.  Imma finna use the 3D printer technology and 3D print me a fuckin Dunwich!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on December 16, 2012, 05:06:11 PM
Tonight is our first night in our new practice space. It's about 4 times as big as the last place so I'm pretty pumped.
Once we get everything totally set up we're thinking about having mini shows there. Should be a lot of fun
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 16, 2012, 05:44:49 PM
Actively putting together Ocean of Stars, new instrumental project to play the music from my rpm challenge albums.

Have a drummer in place after jamming with a few earlier in the year. Was out if leads for a bassist but am talking again to one I approached several months ago so fingers crossed.

Also have talked to a sax player from Craigslist who had a cool ad. Seems on the level and a good player. Sax would free up some rhythm guitar parts.

Still no real leads on a 2nd guitar player, but that will be a later piece. Bass needed now.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 17, 2012, 12:52:09 PM
Still waiting for Jon to get better so we can revive SANDIA MAN.

I've put out the word to some locals that I have some americana/blues/roots country stuff I want to get onstage with, but no one's biting. Fuck 'em.

I'm throwing caution to the winds & putting a solo set together. I'll rotate between electric guitar, acoustic guitar, dobro, & lap steel, all while hollering my head off & maybe honkin' on a harmonica.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on December 17, 2012, 04:51:52 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on December 11, 2012, 09:41:28 PM
I'm going to Bangkok for Christmas, I'm super excited. That's why I'm curious about your program. Language barrier seems pretty steep, but they are surely somewhat used to English-only dopes running around town by now. For me it's Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phnom Penh and Siem Reap (Cambodia). Worst time of the year to travel (peak tourist season) but also the coolest (only in the 80s/90s). First time in SE Asia, a much needed vacation. I wish I could have done something like this when I was in college, great idea.

This is great! have a great time and be careful, safe travels!
wow...that is awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 18, 2012, 04:23:14 AM
they have diseases that there are no cures for. I wonder what public surfaces the pathogens congregate on whilst waiting to infect a new host.
that is a tropical region. tropical regions have insects/arachnids that have evolved strong poisons and novel attack techniques.  crazy shit grows in that 24/7 high humidity too. ever hear of a snake called a "2-step" ?  yes, that's how far you get after it bites you.

















[evil snicker face goes here]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 18, 2012, 08:28:25 AM
woh. Last night a bunch of open tuning chord shape patterns I hadn't noticed just jumped out at me from the fretboard. 

I got up early & dicked around some more, and man, has this opened up my mind to some new ideas. The joy of discovery & all that. I wanna just stay home & play all day, but I guess I'd better get ready for work...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 18, 2012, 04:08:29 PM
Yea a new power chord just jumped at me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 18, 2012, 04:17:55 PM
I'm so bored with my shitty six string skills, I think I'm gonna put down the guitar for awhile and dick around on the bass. I've been neglecting that anyway.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on December 18, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
Working on getting the artist to finalize our split album's cover.  Should look something like this.   (https://s3.amazonaws.com/deadgroovemusic/skull_battles+downsize.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tossom on December 18, 2012, 05:34:34 PM
My brother arrived home today, will be back here on holiday for 2 weeks.  Now to find a drummer who is ok with being deafened for a jam ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 19, 2012, 12:05:08 AM
A of O..cool artwork. sick as fuck!!

heres my bands latest insanity. a repress of this split LP noise classic!! now on 8 track!!!!
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/67840_521735447844454_547405771_n.jpg)
limited to 25 copies..out in early 2013.. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on December 19, 2012, 04:02:16 AM
I went through the "sent" emails in my one account this evening. I had emails in there going back to 04. So besides a bunch of bummer emails from an ex, I came across a bunch of old recordings from past bands. It's pretty interesting to listen to some of this stuff after so many years.
It's actually inspiring me to work harder on stuff for my current band.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 19, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
Lol, I did that with myspace. Made me go back and contact my ex and apologize.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 19, 2012, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on December 19, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
Lol, I did that with myspace. Made me go back and contact my ex and apologize.


Opologize? Or....
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 19, 2012, 10:33:42 AM
Quote from: bass sic on December 19, 2012, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on December 19, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
Lol, I did that with myspace. Made me go back and contact my ex and apologize.


Opologize? Or....

Hindsight is 20/20 or whatever the fuck that means.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 20, 2012, 01:10:15 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on December 18, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
Working on getting the artist to finalize our split album's cover.  Should look something like this.   (https://s3.amazonaws.com/deadgroovemusic/skull_battles+downsize.jpg)

heh, that is actually a pretty nice image. good call.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 20, 2012, 01:24:41 AM
in my music room/studio basement rebuild I was going to use an old sanyo rack system rack for music electronics, but it is an RCH too narrow to hold 19" rackmount stuff.  I need a 19" rack, so I may have to trash and rebuild the sanyo rack wider. the rollers are in the sides, so those are the key pieces, not any of the shelves.

working out the framework for the back of the area cloth wall.  still have lighting to tweak and how exactly set up my vinyl and cd's to do yet, but it is getting close.

edit: I decided to skip the music gear rack. I don't have that much lol. midi modules can just go by the keyboard when I need them and the rest on the table when I need it. so, electronics are all set basically, ambient light and décor is done enough for now. figure out some main lighting and finish the back wall...

I can reach up again to hold little things with my bad shoulder now.  i'm in the rehab stage working on getting the full range of motion back after keeping it all crunched up for a month.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on December 21, 2012, 10:20:14 AM
Quote from: jibberish on December 20, 2012, 01:24:41 AM
in my music room/studio basement rebuild I was going to use an old sanyo rack system rack for music electronics, but it is an RCH too narrow to hold 19" rackmount stuff.  I need a 19" rack, so I may have to trash and rebuild the sanyo rack wider. the rollers are in the sides, so those are the key pieces, not any of the shelves.

working out the framework for the back of the area cloth wall.  still have lighting to tweak and how exactly set up my vinyl and cd's to do yet, but it is getting close.

edit: I decided to skip the music gear rack. I don't have that much lol. midi modules can just go by the keyboard when I need them and the rest on the table when I need it. so, electronics are all set basically, ambient light and décor is done enough for now. figure out some main lighting and finish the back wall...

I can reach up again to hold little things with my bad shoulder now.  i'm in the rehab stage working on getting the full range of motion back after keeping it all crunched up for a month.

Pictures?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 21, 2012, 10:42:18 AM
I am almost finished, and I will make a little video or take pics once it is set up. I may have to tweak the sound with some barriers, but I will see what I have with just what is here first. the overall sonic sense of the room is pretty neutral. I hope that carries over to when it gets loud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 21, 2012, 01:19:32 PM
So I tried to help my girl order that Mallekko 616 for my xmas present from a local shop.  Their website says "Fanatic about customer service".  I wasn't really getting that vibe from them so I ordered directly from Malekko.  They're local anyways.  A good thing I did because they are just starting to ship the V. 2.0 out, so I would have gotten the older version and after reading about the new version I'm glad I went this route.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on December 23, 2012, 02:01:58 PM
I put together a pretty mean rig for aboot 500 bucks, louder 'n' fuck and decent tone. Randall 140 "Sustainer" (master) into an Avatar 4x12, Sunn Concert Bass (slave) into a Peavey 6505 era 4x12, Epiphony G-400.

/blawg
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on December 23, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
A local recording studio where people I know have recorded their demos has written out an talent search contest, the only thing you need to do is to send in a rehearsal recording and they pick the winner. The winner gets some free studio time, I figured just what the hell and send a rehearsal recording from a couple of months ago because it was the only decent one we got but whatever.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 23, 2012, 11:23:42 PM
Finally I can play some guitar again, although the motion of putting the guitar strap over my shoulder is still iffy.
I am getting to know these little greta amps way better and i'm finding what works where, regarding volumes and tones and playing styles etc
I will put together a more coherent thread later.

HAH everyone that came over yesterday tripped out on my music room. we baptized that bith royal. clutzy nephew even got some beer on the carpet.
all I have to do is finish the back fake cloth wall and figure some main , but lo-profile main lighting solutions..so close....

so ramsey lewis has a show called legends of jazz and al dimeola just slayed....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tossom on December 24, 2012, 07:46:02 AM
An old friend from school asked me to put a little bit of guitar on an EP she was doing, was very pleased she remembered I used to be able to play a guitar! ;D

Not entirely happy with what I did, fairly happy with the sound but my playing was sloppy through a couple of years of little to no playing but Lucy seems happy with it. It has been released to the public now anyway so too late to change it!  Alt celtic folk, not my normal kinda thing but think Lucy has a great voice and cool ideas.  I am on the track "dancing on the waves".

http://wailingmiserere.bandcamp.com/album/tales-untold (http://wailingmiserere.bandcamp.com/album/tales-untold)

Merry xmas jam room folks, shall be looking to pick brains before long as I am currently building an amp - an amp maker kit for an 18w head.  Having fun so far but know I will get stuck soon!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 24, 2012, 11:55:13 AM
^^Sounds good to me dude.  Is she as bonny as she sounds??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tossom on December 24, 2012, 02:15:37 PM
Cheers sir.  Yes, she is ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 26, 2012, 08:18:15 AM
Yeah, sounding good, Tossom!

So, how does one teach oneself to fingerpick after playing exclusively with a pick for close to 40 years?

I decided about a month ago that I wouldn't pick up a pick until 2013, and I must say it's working out well. My right hand is finally catching on (I'm lefty). The first few weeks sounded really ugly, but I'm getting past that now. This is gonna be really useful for slide & acoustic stuff...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 26, 2012, 09:46:31 AM
Using your finger tips/pads, or finger nail? And are you playing regular spaced strings? I've fucked around with it but can't guide my fat sausages between the strings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 26, 2012, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: bass sic on December 26, 2012, 09:46:31 AM
Using your finger tips/pads, or finger nail? And are you playing regular spaced strings? I've fucked around with it but can't guide my fat sausages between the strings.

Both nails & fingertips, depending upon what I'm doing. I've grown the nails on my right hand a bit longer than usual, but nothing freakish looking. Gotta get the thumbnail a tad longer & I'll be there. The string spacing is anywhere from wide (resonator/ lap steel) to tight (my Baby Taylor).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 26, 2012, 12:30:20 PM
i developed a terrible habit 20 some odd years ago of using my thumb and first 2 fingers.  I can't shake it.  I've heard that the first 2 chord phrasings of Dust in the Wind were a finger picking exercise.  i should start there.  i admire people who can do this proficiently.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 26, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
I rarely use the ring or pinkie. It's mostly about the thumb & forefinger, with a bit of middle finger thrown in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 26, 2012, 12:57:54 PM
Aha!!  You're doing it wrong like me.  Start doing it right early on and you won;t develop something you can't stop.

I close my eyes
Only for a moment
then the moment's gone......
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 26, 2012, 01:08:30 PM
If this is wrong, I'll never get "right":

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on December 26, 2012, 05:12:53 PM
funny- I was gonna mention dust in the wind for fingerpicking practice.  Back when I took lessons 60 years ago,  that song and the intro to Yes' mood for a day were what the dude had me work on to learn that shit.  the Kansas song is great for getting that specific pattern down, the Yes song is badass and a challenge to play- not that I can remember any of that stuff now.     
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on December 26, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
A friend of mine only uses middle, ring and pinkie and holds a pick with index/thumb. Hybrid picking.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 26, 2012, 06:52:55 PM
That would be a handy tool for me to have, picking and fingering. I may start working on it.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 26, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
I use all 'um, the first pinkie is my string popper. Play how it how it sounds the best!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 26, 2012, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on December 26, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
A friend of mine only uses middle, ring and pinkie and holds a pick with index/thumb. Hybrid picking.

I like that.

I was horsing around with chet atkins style picking. you have to use everything. try that.  thumb and index do the rhythm part on the 2-3 lower strings, and the other 3 fingers do all the melody/chord/counter-melody.  mind bending, but it may hel[ you folks. don't underestimate the chet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on December 29, 2012, 07:35:14 PM
got asked to try out for an open 2nd guitar spot with a local band I really like.  I only ever auditioned for a band once, 27 years ago.  These guys are all friends of friends and I know 'em a little, but still figure it's going to be a little bit weird.  I have a week to try and learn/add to 3 of their songs- which they haven't sent me yet.

should be interesting
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on December 29, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
knock em dead Diddler.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on December 29, 2012, 09:01:20 PM
thanks Chovie- if I can get through it without sharting my drawers, I'll consider it a success
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: themusketking on December 29, 2012, 09:32:39 PM
I'm skating thin lines. The wife gets depressed when I go to band practice.  She only works two days a week right now and spends a lot of time alone. So, needless to say, she's lonely. She wants to spend every waking moment with me due to this(which I get), but there are few things in the world I love as much as my band.  Also, I REALLY REALLY want to start another band, but I just don't see it as possible. Kinda has me a little pissed at myself and the situation. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 30, 2012, 12:41:03 AM
I hear ya on that. I work second shift and only see my wife two nights a week. When I was in the band one of those nights was spent on band practice, and then my hard to get nights off were spent on gigs. She was not happy. I would love to have normal hours and do an original AND a cover band just for fun/money. Instead I sit in my spare room and play by myself a couple hours a week, if that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 30, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
I've been woodshedding so much in my little room that my wife's been complaining, so I'm trying to balance things out a bit more. I dunno, I find it hard not to be obsessive about playing, esp. when I'm mining new ideas & making a lot of progress. The hours disappear...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 30, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
"Axes lead to exes." An old saying I just made up 8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on December 30, 2012, 12:54:59 PM
I feel thine's pain, but my "You love that goddamned guitar more than me!!!1!" days are behind me. I think the last straw was when I replied "Yeah, and if this SG had a pussy you'd be assed the fuck out"   :P

"Axes lead to ex's"  haha, nice
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 30, 2012, 01:07:33 PM
I actually think it was my non master volume amps un-attenuated.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 30, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on December 30, 2012, 12:54:59 PM
I feel thine's pain, but my "You love that goddamned guitar more than me!!!1!" days are behind me. I think the last straw was when I replied "Yeah, and if this SG had a pussy you'd be assed the fuck out"   :P

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Currently plugging into SG-mounted Fleshlight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 30, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: the diddler on December 29, 2012, 07:35:14 PM
got asked to try out for an open 2nd guitar spot with a local band I really like.  I only ever auditioned for a band once, 27 years ago.  These guys are all friends of friends and I know 'em a little, but still figure it's going to be a little bit weird.  I have a week to try and learn/add to 3 of their songs- which they haven't sent me yet.

should be interesting

In Bummertown?  Anybody i might know?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on December 31, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
nah, Tacomastyle.  Doubt you know 'em, I'll post some shits once it's all been decided.  I really dig the songs they sent me, though not sure they actually need another guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 31, 2012, 02:01:27 PM
So this older ex hippie lookin dude who has worked in our warehouse for years was in the break room today. I had never talked to him before but heard he was a musician. I asked if he got anything good when I saw him at guitarmart last week. Well he just started yapping away and telling me stories about his sound/production company back in the 70/80's, and the bands he's jammed with. It was actually entertaining, he's got some pretty cool shit to say. Ima have to shoot the shit with him more.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on December 31, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
Oh yea, one story he told was them wandering into a studio in soho to record a commercial jingle. On the way in a junky was outside selling a guild bass for 50 bucks. He bought it and went into the studio. The engineer said "well it looks like you met junky pat". Junky pat just finished recording a second version of the Barney miller intro for use in the reruns in syndication. He still has the bass, and even tho I begged he won't sell it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on December 31, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 30, 2012, 12:27:22 PM
"Axes lead to exes." An old saying I just made up 8)

that's actually pretty good
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on December 31, 2012, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: RacerX on December 30, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on December 30, 2012, 12:54:59 PM
I feel thine's pain, but my "You love that goddamned guitar more than me!!!1!" days are behind me. I think the last straw was when I replied "Yeah, and if this SG had a pussy you'd be assed the fuck out"   :P

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Currently plugging into SG-mounted Fleshlight.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnYbF07aRYTL0Zlp6M51u-wq6l_Uza6VbX6j17ls-UGHbGzQudhg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 01, 2013, 04:38:02 AM
how to get your room "puffa puffa opium den style" faster. they have a boatload of different items and design. I mean hundreds and hundreds
one random grab

http://www.fullmoonloom.com/ (http://www.fullmoonloom.com/)
(http://www.fullmoonloom.com/wolthuis.aspx?e=0&src=images%2fproduct%2fmedium%2f180_2_.jpg)

meanwhile I snagged this for $18 walking through sears to the mall, that will look cool on the back wall
a 60" x 80" fluffy blanket heh

(http://s.shld.net/is/image/Sears/spin_prod_738305712?hei=600&wid=600&op_sharpen=1&qlt=90,0&resMode=sharp&op_usm=0.9,0.5,0,0)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on January 03, 2013, 07:37:54 PM
my once a year band is starting up again...hehe. :)


its been two years since we drunkenly dreamed up the idea of this band, we've had two "practices" and I still havent met one of the dudes in the band, tho his previous band is quite well known and Ive seen them many times :D

somehow in those two sessions we managed to write and record basics of 8 pretty good songs tho...i hope we can finish them this year.
???

The band was going to be called Brutus...but im guessing there are a few other brutus (bruti?)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 04, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
Let me know if you guys need a drummer or guitar player that will never show up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bass sic on January 04, 2013, 01:31:46 PM
Or a bass player that can't ever get off work to gig, I'd be down with this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 04, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
Been hashing out a logo for Ocean of Stars:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/05/qedajava.jpg)


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 04, 2013, 03:37:17 PM
I kinda me gusta that but my inner graphic design brain tells me it may be a little busy. Try choosing between the color background or the architectural linework around the letters, methinks.

Looks good though, solid start for sure. Aim for that recognizability all the great logos have.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on January 04, 2013, 07:58:21 PM
It could be good and super geometric just black on white or white on black if you dropped the large O and N of ocean down to create a perfect rectangle.

A somewhat square or 5x4 ratio logo is also really good for utilizing space on stickers and patches etc.

Just need to beef up the smaller letters to get a uniform font weight across all letters which is always something you need to do when using small caps.

No time to mock it up properly so use your imagination:



OO-C-E-A-NN
OO-------NN
----O-F----
SS-------SS
SS-T-A-R-SS




Makes a perfect cube kinda.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 04, 2013, 11:41:26 PM
how would that work on a flier/poster/album cover?? seems to me youd have to lose the background image..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on January 05, 2013, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: RAGER on January 04, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
Let me know if you guys need a drummer or guitar player that will never show up.

youre in! welcome to the band! we are rehearsing today in fremont, please dont show up at noon.

looks like we might have two bass players...hopefully i'll get to meet the second one today...
(http://www.thestranger.com/binary/258d/feature-17562.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on January 05, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
played a really fun nye gig for a local biker club. Lotsa hot chicks there. Got food, drink, cash, and some huge biker dude licked my arm while I was soloing during a jam. I guess he really liked it. That never happened before, and yes it was kinda weird to say the least!

Ate lots and lots of mushrooms (that I picked locally) for about a week straight and improved my solo skills noticeably. I'm doing the same shit, but it seems much more fluid now. Also wrote some new cool jams while under the shroomy influence and I'm stoked that they're pretty rad. I needed some new inspiration.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 05, 2013, 06:35:57 PM
drugs + volume = success. FACT
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 06, 2013, 01:36:16 AM
Quote from: eyeprod on January 05, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
played a really fun nye gig for a local biker club. Lotsa hot chicks there. Got food, drink, cash, and some huge biker dude licked my arm while I was soloing during a jam. I guess he really liked it. That never happened before, and yes it was kinda weird to say the least!

Ate lots and lots of mushrooms (that I picked locally) for about a week straight and improved my solo skills noticeably. I'm doing the same shit, but it seems much more fluid now. Also wrote some new cool jams while under the shroomy influence and I'm stoked that they're pretty rad. I needed some new inspiration.



I dig hearing about "rock-n-roll!" rock-n-roll experiences.

meanwhile, i'm getting back into playing guitar along with general exercise and flexing for my shoulder. doing about 2-3 1/2 hr rounds a day. I must admit, my hands appreciated the break from guitar.  I know we have talked about putting shit down for w/e 2 weeks and come back better. got some of that going, so positive things now, even though with limitations.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on January 06, 2013, 09:14:32 AM
arrived at rehearsal space to find marijuana dispensary had opened in same building.  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 06, 2013, 10:44:18 AM
Quote from: Chovie D on January 06, 2013, 09:14:32 AM
arrived at rehearsal space to find marijuana dispensary had opened in same building.  ;D

Heh. If you think the work ethic in yer new band was bad before, now you'll be assured to get nothing done.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on January 06, 2013, 11:24:10 AM
yup, it was bad. we took half hour bong ripping sessions between each attempt at a song. but we woulda done that anyway.

The worst thing you can do is get draft beer in your studio. We put in a full bar with draft beer once and while it was very fun, it wasnt very conducive to getting anything done. Sometimes we'd show up for practice and never even make it to our instruments, just sit at the bar for two hours and stumble home. :(

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 06, 2013, 11:32:50 AM
I always like to treat ourselves to a drunk practice once in a while.  Like after a batch of shows or hammering out a bunch of songs or something like that.  Show up get blazed and rip through a few songs and roll tape.  That's usually where some new good shit comes from.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Andrew Blakk on January 06, 2013, 05:16:42 PM
Hello blog thread. Nice to see you again...

Well it seems that we lost our bass player today. Musical diffrences...?!

Oh well. Life goes on.

See you another time blog thread.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 06, 2013, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on January 06, 2013, 09:14:32 AM
arrived at rehearsal space to find marijuana dispensary had opened in same building.  ;D
im sooooo fucking moving.. fuck this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on January 06, 2013, 08:44:37 PM
So I think I may have damaged the neck on tele doing too big a neck bend. Heard a pop and it seems like I can't play a chord without it going out of tune.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 06, 2013, 10:05:48 PM
Check your bridge saddles
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 07, 2013, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: RacerX on January 06, 2013, 10:44:18 AM
Quote from: Chovie D on January 06, 2013, 09:14:32 AM
arrived at rehearsal space to find marijuana dispensary had opened in same building.  ;D

Heh. If you think the work ethic in yer new band was bad before, now you'll be assured to get nothing done.  ;)

They'll get high. That's doing something, sort of. Heh!


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on January 07, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
"Audition" with new band last night went well. They got 3 other dudes to check out over the next couple weeks so we'll see how it goes, but everyone was pretty stoked last night.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 07, 2013, 11:01:40 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on January 06, 2013, 08:44:37 PM
So I think I may have damaged the neck on tele doing too big a neck bend. Heard a pop and it seems like I can't play a chord without it going out of tune.

Tighten neck screws. Do it.

Check saddles. Do it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on January 07, 2013, 11:03:14 PM
FINALLY got the guitars sounding close to how I want them for our upcoming split.  Note to self:  spend more time placing the mic.  And although I thought my gain was sufficiently low, it should have been lower.  Live and learn, as some deflated motherfucker once said.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 13, 2013, 02:09:43 PM
Last night I worked on a song with a singer & guitarist I know, who were already in the process of writing it & asked me to check it out. Sounds promising. It's dark & blues-based, which is a good start in my book. May turn into a project.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 14, 2013, 01:03:35 AM
I can see where that would be refreshing.  i need to jam with some people.


I'm having an identity crisis as a player.  I want to play more intricate stuff as a guitar player but as a drummer I want to play heavy as fuck shit. IDK!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on January 14, 2013, 07:20:57 AM
as long as you're not playing both guitar and drums in the same band, just update the identity and go for it all, dude.

blog- after more than a year, we're back to recording practices. think the demo might appear this way.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: natehusky on January 14, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
An occasional drunk practice ? Beer is the engine that fuels my bands it seems. But then again I do like it loose & on the verge if falling apart
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on January 18, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
I've come to the conclusion that I am just going to have to tune half-a-step up (C# to D). Even with using half the gain and dialing back the bass, it just still sounds too muddy with alnico II p'ups.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: themusketking on January 18, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: natehusky on January 14, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
An occasional drunk practice ? Beer is the engine that fuels my bands it seems. But then again I do like it loose & on the verge if falling apart

That is quite how we roll.  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on January 19, 2013, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: natehusky on January 14, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
I do like it loose & on the verge if falling apart

You're in luck...  have I mentioned the new WHB album is almost finished?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 19, 2013, 11:05:14 PM
cool

music room/home studio update: will i ever get this muther finished? ya very close.
still finishing up the fake cloth back wall and trying to do some kind of interior decorating with a fish-out-of-water feeling.
stringing and hiding cables/cords has been a real time eater that I hadn't anticipated.
may need another carpet or rug on the floor but the room is quieting down nicely

btw, those little crap $5 colored power-twist CFL's at home depot are awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 21, 2013, 01:54:29 AM
They overhauled the forums at Harmony-Central.com again (#1 most popular musician's website, I think). I'm not sure but it looks like maybe another huge mess, just like last time they tried to update their forums.  ::)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on January 23, 2013, 04:53:25 PM
The band I tried out for wants me in, so that's cool.  This is them a couple months ago, after the other guitar dude left (sound's not great, but you get the idea).

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 23, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
Other Youtube videos describe Mahnhammer as a "Tacoma supergroup". Good work, dude.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on January 23, 2013, 07:23:06 PM
Isn't the Tacoma Supergroup a pickup truck?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 23, 2013, 07:25:20 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 23, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
Other Youtube videos describe Mahnhammer as a "Tacoma supergroup". Good work, dude.

Adding a member can only make them superer, esp. if that member is the diddler.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on January 23, 2013, 07:36:03 PM
'Supergroup' has to be taken in the context of Tacoma- meaning of course, that we've all been playing for 20 some years in bands no one's ever heard of...outside of Tacoma. 

Thanks dudes, I'm pretty much fully stoked to be playing with these guys
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 29, 2013, 04:28:05 AM
New pedals announced at NAMM this year, Jan 24-27 (three pages... see bottom. Over 200 in list.)

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/events/namm/2013 (http://www.effectsdatabase.com/events/namm/2013)

:)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 29, 2013, 01:07:14 PM
^ :)

so I changed the words of fred bear to cold beer. a huge portion of the lyrics work great untouched. made my nefarious job all the easier.

example , the first line, change ONE word..and it's off to the races:
"There I was, back in the bar again" heh.

I have listened to the song about 20 times fitting the words in correctly.  along the way, it dawned on me that this is very simple, especially from the nuge. maybe this is a nuge ballad. i'm not concerned with the solo. I don't really like it nor, to be honest, the whole latter half of the song. so I will do up to the solo break, put a 1 verse or chorus solo in and do the ending verse sans truckload of bullshit in the original song.
it makes me laugh now, so I think it is a go.

----------------------------------
i'm telling you , those $5 13w colored "party" cfl's from home depot light bulb aisle are awesome. they are monochromatic phosphors, so they really look rich, as opposed to colored glass subtractive tinting bullshit.
i'm addicted to pretty colors, shapes and sounds. these are heroin., I have red, green, 2 blues and a UV one so far.
I still want to try out a yellow and orange one, but I think the blue ones are really nice so far.

some back wall decorations and 1 more carpet of some sort and I am finished with the music room. already messing it up playing with the recording stuff etc.  also have to make the official name sign: "The Jimi Fripp Carlos Zappa House of Worship" Studios and Tomfoolarena
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 30, 2013, 03:57:09 AM
(http://www.gadgetlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/nes-electric-guitar.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 31, 2013, 05:09:48 AM
Fender is bringing back the Bass VI...

QuoteThe Pawn Shop Bass VI marks the revamped return of a historic Fender instrument, the seldom-seen Fender Bass Guitar (also known as the Bass VI) of 1961-1975. This updated version of the baritone classic features the traditional short scale (30?) and is armed with Special Design Hot Jaguar® single-coil neck and middle pickups and a powerful JZHB humbucking bridge pickup.



Not much bass action in that clip. ???

The red one has a painted headstock...

(http://assets.fender.com/frl/fb7693d252062dfd99331e268b445382/generated/86ceb3c861ac3d7b0737b2ccde488ca3.png)

http://www.fender.com/series/pawn-shop/pawn-shop-bass-vi/ (http://www.fender.com/series/pawn-shop/pawn-shop-bass-vi/)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 31, 2013, 10:12:11 AM
Ill probably be the one here to bite at that one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 31, 2013, 11:18:42 AM
namm videos are dangerous to watch. I used to want a prophet 8 synth, the resurrected and improved prophet 5 of yore.
i'm over that. NOW I want a prophet 12.   3 grand will keep me from ever getting it though. but I can still want it.
I do want to play with a kingKorg some day though. that thing is like 1 grand.

somehow I ended up on hagstrom's website. heh, bad bad bad.  I want those. I want that Jackson trivium signature V.
lumpy, buy me a magnatone amp.

...pedal demo overload, especially since I am not after anything specific to further contour my sounds yet.

fuck ovation....they have gone beyond PRS heh.

btw moog=gibson=big $ name = higher prices for same shit.
the moog factory video for their gritty fatty model is outstanding.

korg also cloned the original m-20(forgot its right model), the little modular monophonic analog synyh. that goober is only like $500 or so.

but ya, that prophet 12.  the versatility and richness is off the richter. I would sell any 3 of y'all's souls to get one of those.

dave smith at namm explaining some stuff about prophet 12


somebody who was involved in the dev massaging some creepy sounds out of the 12. this is why I initially liked the 5. thick pads and creepy ambience like no other
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 31, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
I enjoy that richer baritone sound of that fender right up there. sounds like my les paul now instead of a strat. if I was going to get a baritone, I would get a full scale one which really sounds richer than std guitars.

like I want one of those huge mariachi band acoustic bass guitars some day
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on January 31, 2013, 08:58:23 PM
Finally releasing a song off the upcoming split.  Dig it.

https://soundcloud.com/rowsdowerband/rowsdower-acid-healer-2013 (https://soundcloud.com/rowsdowerband/rowsdower-acid-healer-2013)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 01, 2013, 01:56:29 AM
There's some shit on yer soundcloud there I quite like, but I am confused as hell as to what is what, some of em have like 4 songs per track.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 01, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 01, 2013, 01:56:29 AM
There's some shit on yer soundcloud there I quite like, but I am confused as hell as to what is what, some of em have like 4 songs per track.

Thanks dude.  We have a new song (posted above), some dicking around doom riff we did in practice, and our old and eclectic four song demo from forever ago.  Once we release the physical CD then we'll have a place to download high quality versions of the files for free.  Cheers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 01, 2013, 11:29:43 PM
heres a review of one of my bands latest releases..they did us justice.
http://honestbag.blogspot.com/2013/02/foot-and-mouth-disease-evila-029.html (http://honestbag.blogspot.com/2013/02/foot-and-mouth-disease-evila-029.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 02, 2013, 12:24:42 AM
Nice one Mortlock.   :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 02, 2013, 07:34:24 AM
Quote from: mortlock on February 01, 2013, 11:29:43 PM
heres a review of one of my bands latest releases..they did us justice.
http://honestbag.blogspot.com/2013/02/foot-and-mouth-disease-evila-029.html (http://honestbag.blogspot.com/2013/02/foot-and-mouth-disease-evila-029.html)

sweet
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 02, 2013, 07:54:50 PM
I just made a complete mess out of trying to solder a new 1/4 jack on a 12 gauge speaker cable (swap the plug). I blame my Radio Shack soldering station, the sheer size of the area that needed to be soldered, and my lousy soldering skills.

God dammit.  >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on February 02, 2013, 08:54:52 PM
Epiphone ellitists are pretty damn decent, except for the pricetag.  Kurt Cobain's signature Fender Jaguar is not that great, at least for me, however, the "worn" look was really convincing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 02, 2013, 10:41:09 PM
Been on a DADGAD tuning kick for about a week—some real pretty chord voicings in there, and a very versatile tuning.

Think Celtic/Indian/Arabian music, Jimmy Page's Black Mountain Side or Rory Gallagher's version of Out on the Western Plains.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 03, 2013, 02:21:57 AM
Plugged in soldered cable - it works!

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/185/885/SANDCASTLES.png?1318627593)

To give you some idea of the neatness of my work, I splashed a big spot of solder on my kitchen floor (lineoleum). I don't know if I can get it to come off?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 03, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Gently tap it from the side with something relatively heavy, mayhaps get it cold first.

/metal stewart

I rejacked* two cabs I recently bought, my solderin' is getting fairly good, finally


* TWSS
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on February 03, 2013, 10:55:25 AM
soldering is one of those practice things.  Once you get out of practice, those skills can go away.  I used to be really good at it.  Now not so much.  They pass current, but not totally pretty.  I couldn't build electronics for sale with my soldering skills.  At least not that I'd be willing to put my name on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 03, 2013, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on February 03, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Gently tap it from the side with something relatively heavy, mayhaps get it cold first.

/metal stewart

I rejacked* two cabs I recently bought, my solderin' is getting fairly good, finally


* TWSS

The spot is totally flat, about the size of a quarter. Worst case scenario, I peel up the tile and swap it for one that's near a radiator - they paint 'em silver here. Gee Mr. Landlord,  that was some sloppy work they did (when its time to get my security deposit back). It's in the middle of the kitchen floor right now...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 03, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
Take one-a them tiny jeweler's (i.e. musician's) flathead screwdrivers and gently pop it off...?

I'd never submit my soldering for visual inspection either, haha, but you'd have to pull pretty fucking hard to get 'er loose
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 03, 2013, 05:57:48 PM
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=372-145&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=372-145&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla)

a small powerful tip is the secret to making soldering into monkey work.

I recommend the basic 60watt weller above.  60 watts dimed on that little fucker will catch shit on fire. you hear hear it going "tick tick tick", just pouring th eheat into the metal you ar soldering. big blocky tips have less watts per area/volume, whatever and just cant put a hot spot into a joint.

I solder all size crap with my weller.  and when you get a hot spot and put the solder to the spot, it just flows like magic and you like cant feed the solder into the spot fast enough. beautiful.

certain metals just wont take to rosin, forget it, un-solderable. stuff like cast white-metal and certain alloys, forget it.

anyway..
After you flow enough solder in and remove the iron, keep the joint still for a few seconds even if it is burning you, focus. BE the kung fu dude. then it solidifies shiny=perfect joint.  if it solidifies hazy or rough looking you moved and fucked up the structure or you cold soldered it. either way, the structure is weak and will break or not conduct well.  

to review:

get hotspot with good pointy iron tip.  flow solder into hotspot and it will flow all through the conductors as the heat flows outward.

hold joint steady after solder has flowed and iron has been removerd UNTIL SETS UP. then you still cant lick your burnt fingers because of the lead based solder.

(use ONLY LEAD BASED SOLDER. FUCK THAT ANTIMONY SHIT. that doesn't flow worth a shit.)

edit: try not to reflow the solder. the first flow is the best. second is eh, but then you are asking for a bogus crystallization after a bunch of remelts. just do fresh solder each time you flow it. that anyimony, if you don't get it right first flow, do it over, crystalizes right out on second flow. garbage I tell ya man,. garbage

editz: oh ya, don't put the solder onto the iron, put it onto the metal so the rosin flows along the metal. it will just flow up the iron and burn up if you put the solder to the iron.  it is tempting with a POS low powered one that barely heats anything just to get something melting, but that isn't the most effective way to flow the solder along the metal you want joined.

you want the metal to be joined to be grease/oil/dirt/oxidation/paint/alien non-solderable plating/etc  free

editzzz: if you are soldering semiconductor components, holding the leg with needle nose pliers between the device and the solder point will sink stray heat heading towards the device. a shitty iron is actually more dangerous since the long heatup gives more time to send heat up the leg. a really hot iron and a clean quick strike barely heats up the other end of the leg near the device. thee grand total of watts of heat with a tiny hotspot real fast is a fraction of a big long  slow heat (this includes diodes, op amps, transistors as the things we would be dealing with mostly)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 03, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
Buy a metcal. Im gonna.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 03, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
Lumpy - That is so fucking cool! I think I just found a reason to sell my MS2000. Bass VI - holy gleaming red boners!!

In more bloggy news, my band is ready to start gigging. Hoo-fucking-ray. Fucking finally. Despite my bassist's protests, we'll have a Facebook page up by tomorrow night and rough demos up for your listening pleasure(?) within a couple of weeks. I'll post up the link as soon as I have it.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 04, 2013, 03:37:23 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 03, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
Buy a metcal. Im gonna.

if you don't use one of those when installing the stereo into your Bentley, you void the whole warranty on the car. fact.

edit: the whole world uses wellers = best bang for the buck
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 04, 2013, 03:41:40 AM
Quote from: Discö Rice on February 03, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
Lumpy - That is so fucking cool! I think I just found a reason to sell my MS2000. Bass VI - holy gleaming red boners!!

In more bloggy news, my band is ready to start gigging. Hoo-fucking-ray. Fucking finally. Despite my bassist's protests, we'll have a Facebook page up by tomorrow night and rough demos up for your listening pleasure(?) within a couple of weeks. I'll post up the link as soon as I have it.

bft hommes
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 04, 2013, 11:32:32 AM
Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 04, 2013, 12:25:16 PM
Stupid accident at practice yesterday. I had my acoustic guitar strapped on & began a sideways step with my right foot before realizing I was about to step on my lap steel, which was in a soft case on the floor. All my weight was already shifting to the right, but I couldn't put my foot down, so I stuck my left arm with the acoustic's neck in it out and pitched almost to the floor before I saved myself with my right arm. Today my whole side is tweaked.

On the bright side, the guitar was completely unscathed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 04, 2013, 03:17:42 PM
Here's the link, fellas (and ladies?)!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Leadbreath/409081935847936

Get some!

(music up soon)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 04, 2013, 08:22:47 PM
having a vocalist named laurie (or something close heh) has served other bands very very well.  you have my interest

hey gimperX, welcome to my nightmare. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on February 04, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
Finally, finally, finally...got a new stoner based band going. Been writing music and practicing on the regular, with motivated and cool people. Hoping to do a proper recording within the next couple months. There's a couple live instrumental practice demos I posted up on the page.

www.facebook.com/warprig (http://www.facebook.com/warprig)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 04, 2013, 11:48:53 PM
So I was powering up my pedals with my Supa-Charger and I just heard a loud 'POP'. I thought it was my amp but I noticed my Tech21 DLA is not longer working and there are some burn marks inside it, hope it's not toast. Also, notice my hum/buzz is now worse with amp and pedals/supa-charger than it was with my one-spot.

Weird day.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 04, 2013, 11:55:02 PM
my band is on tumblr now..follow me and ill follow your band..dont be a pussy about it..
http://footandmouthdisease.tumblr.com/ (http://footandmouthdisease.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 05, 2013, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: jibberish on February 04, 2013, 03:37:23 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 03, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
Buy a metcal. Im gonna.

if you don't use one of those when installing the stereo into your Bentley, you void the whole warranty on the car. fact.

edit: the whole world uses wellers = best bang for the buck

I use a Weller, haha. I'm just upgrading to a Metcal just because I'm a tool whore.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 05, 2013, 01:27:24 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 05, 2013, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: jibberish on February 04, 2013, 03:37:23 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 03, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
Buy a metcal. Im gonna.

if you don't use one of those when installing the stereo into your Bentley, you void the whole warranty on the car. fact.

edit: the whole world uses wellers = best bang for the buck

I use a Weller, haha. I'm just upgrading to a Metcal just because I'm a tool whore.

ahh ha I see, heh that's pretty good.  well, those are really nice. I wouldn't complain.

are you planning on doing hand-smd work or sneaky reverse engineering or something requiring tricky disassembly?
solder removal and unsoldering is the bullshit. you can have every solder sucker, vacuum thing, braid etc and sometimes it still just sucks getting that shit out of a board. sucks as in blows.  I think... anyway, are you getting some world class de-soldering deal with that.  I will build a little temple in your honor and burn incense in front of it if you do.

ps, you newer solderers: If there is a chance something will need to be removed via unsoldering in some circuit you are assembling or modding, don't twist the wires all up so that they hold themselves with no solder when you first go to solder them. you will have to cut that piece out if you need to unsolder it or get really rough when melting and sling solder splats everywhere when you yank the wires to separate them. you can trust a good solder joint with the conductors side by side. then when it comes time to replace that part, the solder joint just falls apart when melted. less heat into your semiconductors or your fingers, or lifting traces etc etc, just all good and no bad.

edit: I mean be clever, like a hooked wire can be popped off easily and maybe holds via linear tension for hands free solder on that joint in a certain situation. I always look for the cheat that holds itself but pops apart easily if I have to undo it. but I do tack many joints nice straight side-by-side. and do the kung fu burning my fingers waiting for it to set. no time for dicking with pliers wtf.

the upper cool part of the iron near the handle is nice for shrinking shrink tubing btw. just knock all that shit out holding your iron vs swapping for a hyper-hair dryer between solders to shrink tubing. I never put the iron down when i'm jamming. hold it like a cigarette, which comes with the instinct that there is a cherry on the end of that electric ciggy. stripping wires, trimming, stringing tube, and even soldering. just goes so mch faster especially when i have lots of solder joints to do.
have I fumbled and done the electric ciggy boogie and gotten burned a few times? heh, ya.
what doesn't kill you , only makes you faster.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 05, 2013, 01:49:07 PM
There's no way to make this sound polite – so, sorry – but do you use methamphetamines?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 05, 2013, 02:03:16 PM
meh, that's good info and it takes some explaining.

besides, why should you care? do you like being an ass just to be an ass? idc what the reason is, i just don't see it being necessary.

if someone never soldered or is buffaloed by the mechanics, what i babbled could be of some good use. i have a feel for a couple things of use around here, and that is one of them.

btw, maybe you will zapped by a reversed neutral someday. you can think about that thread i had to remove due to bad attitudes vs just moving along. 

i mean, i try to pitch in info or get into discussions, and you seem to think you are the judge of what or what is not to be mentioned in the jam room.
why is this? you think you have it all covered a->z?  i have news for you, you can always learn something except when you are making too much noise to hear anything.

i really don't get it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 05, 2013, 02:16:02 PM
Without regard to the content of your posts, it's more of your stream of consciousness delivery that makes it hard to follow. And not just this in this thread.

I'm certainly not judging lifestyle decisions. To each his own. Truly. But I'm just curious to know the level of tweak that is getting peppered in with musical instrument-related advice is all.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 05, 2013, 03:32:54 PM
Newsflash, people are different!

Jibberish is solid, I understand his posts, and they are indeed full of useful information most of the time. So what if he's spazzy, he isn't disruptive, aggressive, and he isn't even really a dick compared to most of us.

Carry on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 05, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
4 bands, starting at 10pm. Half hour sets sound about right?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 05, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
Yup, depending on volume of gear coming on and off?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 05, 2013, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 05, 2013, 03:32:54 PM
So what if he's spazzy, he isn't disruptive, aggressive, and he isn't even really a dick compared to most of us.


I resemble that remark: disruptive, aggressive dick.  >:(
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 05, 2013, 05:13:16 PM
I was thinking about your grumpy ass as I typed it. :-D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 05, 2013, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 05, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
Yup, depending on volume of gear coming on and off?

Normal/average I guess but most/half(?) of the bands have 4 or 5 members. Hopefully half an hour will be enough time between. Only the vocals and keys will go through the PA so that should help.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 05, 2013, 05:59:13 PM
Should be good
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 05, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 05, 2013, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 05, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
Yup, depending on volume of gear coming on and off?

Normal/average I guess but most/half(?) of the bands have 4 or 5 members. Hopefully half an hour will be enough time between. Only the vocals and keys will go through the PA so that should help.

That means the show ends at 2:00 AM (I'm not good at maths, so check my work). That's too late for Grampsters like me. Can't anybody share equipment/hurry the fuck up? With 4 bands, the show should probably start earlier.

/audience member
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 05, 2013, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: Jake on February 05, 2013, 01:49:07 PM
There's no way to make this sound polite – so, sorry – but do you use methamphetamines?

Haha !

It's a valid question, and the white-knighting with no experience on the matter is well-intended but ill-conceived nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 05, 2013, 06:30:23 PM
Half-hour sets are almost always perfect. Please don't go longer unless you're Neurosis, and feel free to go 20 mins. if you're an aggressive beatdown band (20 is perfect in that case, 30 = meh)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 05, 2013, 11:29:28 PM
famd sets have rarely cracked 9 minutes lately..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 06, 2013, 12:39:37 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 05, 2013, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 05, 2013, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 05, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
Yup, depending on volume of gear coming on and off?

Normal/average I guess but most/half(?) of the bands have 4 or 5 members. Hopefully half an hour will be enough time between. Only the vocals and keys will go through the PA so that should help.

That means the show ends at 2:00 AM (I'm not good at maths, so check my work). That's too late for Grampsters like me. Can't anybody share equipment/hurry the fuck up? With 4 bands, the show should probably start earlier.

/audience member


1:30 unless the drunks still left want more songs and we have time. Yes going on at 1(us) is late but if the first band starts before 10 nobody will be there. There will be a bit of equipment sharing and one drummer is in 2 of the bands.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 06, 2013, 12:40:47 AM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on February 05, 2013, 06:30:23 PM
Half-hour sets are almost always perfect. Please don't go longer unless you're Neurosis, and feel free to go 20 mins. if you're an aggressive beatdown band (20 is perfect in that case, 30 = meh)

Our first show set was more like 40 but one band cancelled so there was lots of extra time.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 06, 2013, 02:23:36 AM
Bassist shows up today and says " You're probably going to be the one posting from our Facebook page the most". I say "Well yeah, probably. My job requires that I sit in front of a computer all day, but don't let that stop you from posting." She says "Yeah. That's fine. Just make sure all the booking goes through me." I say " Come again?". She says "I'm in charge of booking." To which I reply " There are two of us. If someone tells me they want to book us, I'll run it by you and we can either play it or not. It would be a weird secret to keep. But if you're saying I now defer to you, the answer is no I don't." She: "I know more people than you." Me: "and?" No reply.

Am I crazy, or is that the weirdest, most unnecessary power grab ever for a two-piece band? I should have responded with "okay - I'll write all the music, then, since I play more instruments", but I was too stunned.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 06, 2013, 02:47:57 AM
I should also add; we have not played a single show in this band's lifetime. There have never been "bookings". Not a single one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on February 06, 2013, 05:17:14 AM
That is odd. You could just carry on regardless and take a booking through yourself when the time comes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 06, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
Yeah, man. I dunno. That's kinda what I had in mind. This is not the first event of this nature. There are complaints to deal with if I do nothing, and megalomaniacal weirdness + complaints if I do something. I have to say, even in my old band where we HATED each other as people, we took on responsibility as required (as in; we did not unnecessarily demand control of a particular aspect of the band), and more or less trusted each other as musicians. We were a team, and we behaved professionally when it came to the business side of things. There was none of this particular type of weirdness. I'm thinking more and more that I might not be the right robot/plow horse for this artistic endeavor, which is a damn shame considering how much time, money, and effort I've put into it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on February 06, 2013, 01:01:59 PM
That's a bummer that such stuff stands in the way of the base goal; to make killer music.

Discö Rice's post reminds me why so many guys have a "no chicks in the band" rule.
(not that i haven't dealt with my share of drama queen men in bands. sheesh)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 06, 2013, 02:01:51 PM
I've been in bands with girls who were sensible and awesome to work with, and men who were fucking impossible. I've even been the asshole in the band. I have zero interest in or time for prima donna behavior anymore. I want to write and play music and have fun doing it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 06, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
You're got yourself a real firecracker there Disco. Yowza.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 07, 2013, 12:18:48 AM
clearly youre not hittin it..maybe thats the problem..tell her to 'book this'..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on February 07, 2013, 12:41:23 AM
Probably terrible advice... but funny.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: clockwork green on February 07, 2013, 12:56:47 AM
Which Acoustic heads are the good ones for bass? I've been thinking about joining a band on bass and I'm building up my rig.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 07, 2013, 09:42:21 AM
370, 320
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 07, 2013, 09:51:35 AM
I'm in love with the power of my 220.

We had planned 2 days of rehearsing/recording and now the drummer only can do 1 day. There's a reason we planned this a few weeks ahead... *sigh* We'll just see I guess.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 07, 2013, 11:37:08 AM
Quote from: mortlock on February 07, 2013, 12:18:48 AM
clearly youre not hittin it..maybe thats the problem..tell her to 'book this'..

No.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 07, 2013, 07:50:32 PM
^ HAHAHAHA!!!




So I've been sick all week, basically since our practice Monday and we play out Friday night, going on last. Feeling better today than yesterday so I think it's going away. Will probably still be somewhat sick and drained feeling tomorrow night though. I think I'll be able to play and sing but the load in and sitting around talking to everyone for hours before we go on is going to sap much of my energy. Planning on wearing a mask so I don't freak people out as much if I cough a bit and I'll be on Ibuprofin which makes me feel a lot more normal. Will be drinking a lot of water too. Anyone have any other tips? Trying to eat good/healthy, get lots of sleep(12 hours last night), and taking my usually multi and D vitamins like usual in addition to some C.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 08, 2013, 03:32:12 AM
Tip: suck it up.

Unless you have a fever of 104 and are puking your guts out, then maybe you can decide to cancel. Hell, I've even rehearsed while being so sick that I had to puke my breakfast out between songs. And it wasn't from heavy drinking the night before.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2013, 03:57:06 AM
Suck it up sounds good. A coughing fit while singing would suck but I'll try my best. Practicing while puking? That's hardcore sir.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 08, 2013, 06:29:35 AM
heh, "Getting to know you" la la ..ya just more getting to know how I roll.   I maintain a certain degree of social cripple. I have to, or they would evict me from ohio.
everyone here is really valuable, to me at least.  so maybe I try to give it my best on the occasion I have something for the crew.

I can work on toning it down too. give and take. that's what greases the wheels
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thanks sunno, srsly. 
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disco, here is what I have learned in my failed real life. virtually every big fail boiled down to one thing:  "Communication breakdown' (drive me insne)
before you go nuts or have a real blowout that wrecks everything, sit down and have a heart to heart. write an outline of the things you want to cover so you don't lose your shit when it heats up, and you can keep moving forward with getting it all worked out. you both have to get on the same page. maybe you are crowding her somehow that is making her desperate to grab something to be even or w/e scenario causing strife.

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fired up my Frankenstein rig finally.
LP with separately wired PuP outputs, each pup fed to its own amp and in lieu(loo heh, I love that game that bolt plays too, it is an awesome wordsmith lyricist game if you think about it) of the di buffer splitter box, im running the pre outs out of the amps each to its own mixer.
amps are mic'd.  stereo outs from both mixers and the 2 mics feed 6 channels of the recorder. still missing the DI signals in the last 2 inputs.
so I have 2 complete setups each run from the vol/tones on the guitar. huge sounding..i'm onto something..video and sample soon when I get this coherent.
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..LS, IF you are puking while you are practicing, for crom's sake have the recorder rolling !

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 08, 2013, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2013, 03:57:06 AM
Suck it up sounds good. A coughing fit while singing would suck but I'll try my best. Practicing while puking? That's hardcore sir.
Actually, now that we're talking about sucking it up. Last night I got terrible bone pain (some of you may have seen the pics of all the metal pins that are in/around my leg), I can't even get out of my apartment today. I'm on a codeine/ibuprofen mix and they work but the pain is still there. No way I'm gonna cancel already to say I can't come to rehearsal/recording tomorrow. It's gonna be painful if the pain continues (it comes and goes without explanation, it's what the doctors call "that's to be expected") but no way I'm gonna cancel. We haven't rehearsed in almost 2 months I'd say and the sheer joy of playing bass through my full rig is just too much to pass up on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 08, 2013, 12:31:56 PM
LiquidJon, man I don't wanna seem like I'm picking on you, because I see this complaint a lot, but load-in takes four fucking minutes. I realize most musicians are delicate daisies but christ ! "I hate lifting my 4x12!!"  Then become the singer, they never lift shit  :D

/ranty
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
No worries man. I'm just kind of a baby about being sick. I'll make it. I still kind of feel like dogshit but food and Ibuprofen help a lot.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 08, 2013, 03:44:07 PM
Jibberish - We've passed the heart-to-heart phase. We've done that a few times.

You know what's funny? She's lightened up over the past few days. I set up an email account for us to use for bandcamp/soundcloud/whatever, gave her the password, and told her it doesn't have to be our official email, but I had to set something up to move forward. She seemed actually grateful, shockingly enough. Hopefully this trend continues.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2013, 06:18:05 PM
Methy decongestants are awesome!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 09, 2013, 02:38:20 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2013, 06:18:05 PM
Methy decongestants are awesome!

Drugs save yet another show !  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 09, 2013, 04:49:07 AM
It helped but I still trainwrecked. If I knew the songs better I'd probably do okay going on sick at 1:40am. We had too many bands and there were other issues but I'm just not good enough for this game yet and need tons of improvement. I need to at least triple my practice hours per week and learn to play every part of every song with my eyes closed. I'm extremely disappointed with myself. There are too many mediocre musicians in bands and being a guitar player/singer I'm not going to allow myself to keep playing out unless I improve greatly.
edit: for me our set was a fucking nightmare.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 09, 2013, 04:55:30 AM
I should add that the 2 bands that played before us fucking killed it. Vega from Milwaukee(2nd or 3rd show ever, sludgy/stoner super heavy) and Sardonyx(black/thrash?/Frost/???) from here in Madison.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 09, 2013, 06:44:46 AM
 "fucking nightmare". I totally humiliated myself a couple times early in the open mic thing. heh. now I can laugh. I made the same commitment. i'm going away for a couple years to get good enough to do it w/o the choke factor.  well I did that, and it did pay off.  also, I didn't die or anything so i'm not so scared of things heading south. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on February 09, 2013, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: Discö Rice on February 08, 2013, 03:44:07 PM
Jibberish - We've passed the heart-to-heart phase. We've done that a few times.

You know what's funny? She's lightened up over the past few days. I set up an email account for us to use for bandcamp/soundcloud/whatever, gave her the password, and told her it doesn't have to be our official email, but I had to set something up to move forward. She seemed actually grateful, shockingly enough. Hopefully this trend continues.


Maybe she was on her period earlier?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 09, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: jibberish on February 09, 2013, 06:44:46 AM
"fucking nightmare". I totally humiliated myself a couple times early in the open mic thing. heh. now I can laugh. I made the same commitment. i'm going away for a couple years to get good enough to do it w/o the choke factor.  well I did that, and it did pay off.  also, I didn't die or anything so i'm not so scared of things heading south. 

It's good that payed off. We have another gig in a few weeks so I need to practice as much as possible before that.

Plenty of people told me we sounded good including a close friend of mine who is 100 times better than me at guitar so I'm not going to hang it up just yet.

Hopefully I'll never have to play sick again but if I do I'll be better and do better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on February 09, 2013, 10:41:08 PM
Getting close to finishing the demo of my latest project. Check it out if you like Pink Floyd, OM, Goat, and that sort of stuff.

http://cyanescens.bandcamp.com/album/demo-v-1 (http://cyanescens.bandcamp.com/album/demo-v-1)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 10, 2013, 01:34:57 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 09, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: jibberish on February 09, 2013, 06:44:46 AM
"fucking nightmare". I totally humiliated myself a couple times early in the open mic thing. heh. now I can laugh. I made the same commitment. i'm going away for a couple years to get good enough to do it w/o the choke factor.  well I did that, and it did pay off.  also, I didn't die or anything so i'm not so scared of things heading south. 

It's good that payed off. We have another gig in a few weeks so I need to practice as much as possible before that.

Plenty of people told me we sounded good including a close friend of mine who is 100 times better than me at guitar so I'm not going to hang it up just yet.

Hopefully I'll never have to play sick again but if I do I'll be better and do better.


:)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 10, 2013, 09:02:23 AM
Practice today for the new project. The other guitarist & I are weaving electrics (clean & dirty), acoustics, & lap steel (all in different tunings) together and going for a lot of texture & variety.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 10, 2013, 01:28:05 PM
Finally got together with the sax player and went over Ocean of Stars music with him.

Went very well, he's enthusiastic and digs the tunes. Picked up even some of the weirder stuff quickly as well. And he has delay, distortion, flange and a wah pedal to run his horn thru. Awesome!

This could be pretty cool. Now just need bass and second guitar. Will be getting together with the drummer soon to refresh music with him, and will have another jam with sax player this week to make sure he's up to speed before getting all three of us in a room together.

#progress


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 10, 2013, 07:52:25 PM
Quote from: Danny G on February 10, 2013, 01:28:05 PM
Finally got together with the sax player and went over Ocean of Stars music with him.

Went very well, he's enthusiastic and digs the tunes. Picked up even some of the weirder stuff quickly as well. And he has delay, distortion, flange and a wah pedal to run his horn thru. Awesome!

This could be pretty cool. Now just need bass and second guitar. Will be getting together with the drummer soon to refresh music with him, and will have another jam with sax player this week to make sure he's up to speed before getting all three of us in a room together.

#progress


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i am soooo jealous over your sax player. id kill to have a dude like that. my old group NPV has been dead since my sax player quit. hang on to him, these guys are NOT a dime a dozen..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 14, 2013, 10:19:20 AM
so I took a hard look at fred bear by the nuge to figure out the music. there is nothing to figure out. mindless 3 chord wonder. I got right to practicing my modified lyrics timing while playing the rhythm part. I even picked up most of his little tweedle dees between verses..just notes off the 3 chords...my version is "friend beer"

chorus teaser:

friend beer, hammer me, down the hatch again
tip one back, back until it's gone
friend beer, i'm glad to have you by my side again
I won't see you when I pass out before too long...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 15, 2013, 02:35:57 PM
Light bulb moment

I've always liked having low action on my guitars because it helps me pick and fret cleaner. I've had rather high action on my main guitar for awhile now and lowered it today. Sounds fine at low to medium volume and feels great but at practice/gig volume it COMPLETELY changes your tone. You get way more distortion because the strings are constantly clanging away at the frets. Most of you already know this I suspect. So high action is it. Once in awhile I need to wail away at high volume without ear protection just to check in on things. Also figured out the perfect settings on my pedal and the maximum volume I can have my amp set at before really weird shit starts happening.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 15, 2013, 03:11:14 PM
A properly set up guitar with low action doesn't do that. Lower your pickup. That accounts for the extra output
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 15, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
^ Yup, adjust p/u to string to the previous distance then try..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 15, 2013, 04:01:07 PM
Didn't even think about pup height. Will try that next. Damn I'm such an amateur.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 15, 2013, 04:59:52 PM
Yeah – pickup height is a huge deal I've come to learn. Still haven't quite found the "sweet spot" on some guitars I've had for years.

(Partly due to changing string brands/guages, tunings, diff't amps, my own evolving playing style & tastes, laziness, etc.)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on February 15, 2013, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jake on February 15, 2013, 04:59:52 PM
Yeah – pickup height is a huge deal I've come to learn. Still haven't quite found the "sweet spot" on some guitars I've had for years.

(Partly due to changing string brands/guages, tunings, diff't amps, my own evolving playing style & tastes, laziness, etc.)

^ Ditto. It took me years to figure that out, too. I think I shifted blame that whole time, haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 18, 2013, 05:54:40 AM
heh, ya tip the PuP to one side to bring out or stuff the high end or the low end.  I also made my guitars sound like ass messing with pup heights. figured out real quickly, "closer isn't better"

------------------------------------------------------
my son was over to jam a bit. he brought his Taylor acoustic.  we were running all the guitars thru that greta 1 w amp.
I had my back to him and he WAS playing with the Ibanez. all of a sudden im hearing like a 12string. wtf? turn around and he had the acoustic plugged in. heh. damn was that awesome sounding clean through the greta. so I finger picked the outro to hotel CA really slow and nailed that measure ending high note hard each time. the tone. fuckin a. 

first real dose of what all you monkeys have known all along. THE TONE! heh
the taylor sounds like treetop flyer, that twangy bright metal string sound and with a flimsy pick wow. the pick makes so much of the sound on that taylor. so my son plays some of treetop flyer..heh ya.

Taylor+Greta=great match. the search always continues for more. the les paul is almost too heavy/sloppy/overpowering for the gretas. no correct words for how easy it is to get mud from the lp.  next up, ima snag a tele. I think that bright ringing sound will match up with greta. the shit Ibanez pups sound nice, just a little tinny, but nice

he also dug the idea of single mic'ing the drum kit. I told him I saw a pic of zeps studio setup with one mic, here on the boards. he has rode rd1 or wtf that big condenser is called. that will work well with its sensitivity and detail back from the kit a ways. mic'ing a drum kit is a royal pain, especially for casual shit.

I fucked up and didn't have record running. next time we will grab a sample.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 18, 2013, 10:51:19 AM
Finally got to put together the audio/video from a live gig.  Sound turned out surprisingly good actually.  Had one of those x-y two-mic Zoom recorders and blended in a little of the iPhone audio.  Switch it to the high quality stream for optimal results.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 18, 2013, 04:28:35 PM
Installed a strap button on the treble side of the neck where it joins the body of my resonator.

Very happy now. MUCH better balance & access than tying a strap on at the nut, plus less stress on the neck from the heavy body.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 18, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
I have a Japanese Fender bass that needs the truss rod adjusted, but you have to remove the neck to access it. Nice bass but I'm ready to ditch it for something more user-friendly. The weather here is really dry in the winter, so I figure it needs a setup about twice a year. Just don't wanna deal with it. It's practically unplayable now (at least 5 dead spots on the G string) and the intonation is shit.

:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 18, 2013, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 18, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
I have a Japanese Fender bass that needs the truss rod adjusted, but you have to remove the neck to access it.

What the hell? Weird.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on February 18, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
Reissue of one when that is how Fender made necks. They changed things for a reason.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 18, 2013, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 18, 2013, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 18, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
I have a Japanese Fender bass that needs the truss rod adjusted, but you have to remove the neck to access it.

What the hell? Weird.

Yeah the truss rod access is at the butt end of the neck. Only half of the truss rod is visible when you pull off the pickguard. You have to remove the neck, or at least loosen it a bunch. Pain in the ass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 18, 2013, 06:03:56 PM
I've seen people route out a small access area on those. Might be worth pursuing? Or an aftermarket neck?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 18, 2013, 06:21:57 PM
I can do that for ya, Lumpy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 18, 2013, 06:27:58 PM
Wow, thanks dude... but I've got a guy here who will work on it for me. I think first of all, I'm gonna have him do a complete evaluation. Can this become a really good-playing bass? No? Then buh-bye. This guy works for a local bass builder, so I'm gonna pick his brain. Too cold right now (gotta take the subway there). Soon...

Thanks for letting me vent.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 19, 2013, 12:00:54 AM
my band just got confirmed on the SUMMER SCUM II - BUFFALO NOISE FEST 2013..
40+ bands july 19/20 buffalo ny..

#stoked
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 19, 2013, 12:34:10 AM
another day and more bands added..
JULY 18/19/20 IN BUFFALO,NY AT THE FUN HOME:

CONTROL (CA)
SEAL TEAM 666 (Jay Randall of Agoraphobic Nosebleed)
DISGUST (CA)
STRIATIONS (WI)
WINTERS IN OSAKA (IL/CA)
HATE BASEMENT (IL..members of Bongripper and Sea Of Shit)
HOSTAGE PAGEANT (OH/VA)
DETERGE (IL)
SKIN GRAFT (OH)
GNAWED (MN)
MACHISMO (IL...members of Rectal Hygenics)
COREPHALLISM (MA)
BEREFT (RI)
HEAVY BREATHING (VA)
ENVENOMIST (OH)
ORGASMIC RESPONSE UNIT (OH)
BREAKING THE WILL (MI)
MURDEROUS VISION (OH)
BRAD GRIGGS (OH..member of Penis Geyser)
PLAGUES (MI)
T.O.M.B (MD)
SCANT (VA)
PUSDRAINER (OH)
DNR
SIFTING THROUGH DROPPINGS FOR NUTRIENTS
STRANGLED COP (OH)
TEMPER (WI)
OBLIVE (MO)
JIGSAW RHETORIC (MO)
SWOLLEN ORGANS (NYC..member of The Communion)
BLESSED SACRIFIST (WI..member of Milorganaut)
MANDIBLE (OH)
SORCERER TORTURER (OH)
SOLACE MEDIA CORPORATION (OH)
MASS COMM (OH)
MUCK (OH)
AMUSIAC (OH)
CAVERNOUS BODY (OH)
GREG GREG INFINITY
VWLS
OXYGEN STARVATION
GODOFGAPS
FOOT AND MOUTH DISEASE
WAVES CRASHING PIANO CHORDS
PARTYLY ZOMBISH
BARF VS PUKE
THE VOIDOLOGISTS


SCHEDULE SOON
THREE DAY PASS =$30
SINGLE DAY=$15

FUNDRAISER COMP:
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FUNDRAISER DOWNLOAD OF LAST YEARS SETS:
http://summerscumnoisefest.bandcamp.com
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 19, 2013, 12:55:19 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 18, 2013, 06:27:58 PM
Wow, thanks dude... but I've got a guy here who will work on it for me. I think first of all, I'm gonna have him do a complete evaluation. Can this become a really good-playing bass? No? Then buh-bye. This guy works for a local bass builder, so I'm gonna pick his brain. Too cold right now (gotta take the subway there). Soon...

Thanks for letting me vent.

If he thinks it's dildos, then send it to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 20, 2013, 02:35:15 PM
Finally started writing music again. The riffs remind me of CoC's blind infused with Melvin's Stoner witch.


Going to just try and churn out as many as I can while I work on play leadings better before piecing it all together to show for auditioning.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 20, 2013, 03:15:48 PM
Quote...while I work on play leadings better before piecing it all together to show for auditioning

???Huh???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 20, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
I should probably look at what I am typing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 20, 2013, 04:21:27 PM
Might help.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on February 20, 2013, 10:03:48 PM
Played out of town shows with my main band last Fri & Sat, then had out of town practice on Sun. with the new band.  3 nights in a row out past midnight with the musics and the beers.  My old ass might be recovered by next week.  Maybe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 23, 2013, 03:20:01 PM
Lowered the pup and the tone is more clear but string clatter is still a factor. Don't really want to go heavier on strings though. I'll just live with it for now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 23, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
Quote from: the diddler on February 20, 2013, 10:03:48 PM
Played out of town shows with my main band last Fri & Sat, then had out of town practice on Sun. with the new band.  3 nights in a row out past midnight with the musics and the beers.  My old ass might be recovered by next week.  Maybe.
nice. i never would have made it to the out of town practice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 24, 2013, 01:38:10 PM
I finally figured out it was the Planet Waves cables that have been giving stati/hum as I switched to my old Monsters and axekisser and it was at an all-time low.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on February 24, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
Have spent the whole day reading Ollie's ampstack blog.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 24, 2013, 10:41:09 PM
Wow. So, the JCM800 I sold to go to MDF is now my JCM800, again.

It was on ebay, and a buddy of mine bought it back for me... manly fucking tears were shed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 25, 2013, 12:35:13 AM
Recording our guitar parts on 2" analog tape tomorrow. *gulp*
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 25, 2013, 01:16:33 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 24, 2013, 10:41:09 PM
Wow. So, the JCM800 I sold to go to MDF is now my JCM800, again.

It was on ebay, and a buddy of mine bought it back for me... manly fucking tears were shed.

Was it that one with a BIN of $1100?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 25, 2013, 01:21:16 AM
The tan faced one in Ohio, I didn't see the BIN. He got it for what I sold it for, 950$ shipped to my door.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: clockwork green on February 25, 2013, 01:37:42 AM
I got asked to join a band playing bass. My first time playing bass in a band. I'm pretty excited to work with with some people actually interested in song writing plus it'll also be my first time singing in a band which will be the bigger transition. I've been listening to a lot of Free/Andy Fraser and working on my note choice. Overall I'm really looking forward to the change of pace and the challenge.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on February 25, 2013, 07:29:35 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 24, 2013, 10:41:09 PM
Wow. So, the JCM800 I sold to go to MDF is now my JCM800, again.

It was on ebay, and a buddy of mine bought it back for me... manly fucking tears were shed.
I don't think there are manly tears, but good on ya bro.  You have an awesome friend to do that for you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on February 25, 2013, 10:39:47 AM
Just been speaking to Partridge Transformers current owner with a possible eye to buying a batch and stocking them for sale, and eventually making amps round.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 25, 2013, 10:37:03 PM
So uhhh... My band broke up. On to the next, I guess.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 25, 2013, 10:45:43 PM
Why?!
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 25, 2013, 10:57:48 PM
Ugh. I've probably said too much in this thread already. It's for the best, though. Creative differences covers it, I think.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on February 25, 2013, 11:31:54 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on February 25, 2013, 10:37:03 PM
So uhhh... My band broke up. On to the next, I guess.

That sucks man, but hopefully it opens up things for an even better opportunity.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 25, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
Thank you. I do hope that's what happens. I don't handle not playing music well at all. I know I have friends, a great girl, and even a couple of family members that all care about me, but there's this deep, persistent feeling of failure and isolation when things like this happen. The only way to avoid it is to find some new project right away.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 26, 2013, 02:42:55 AM
Got guitar recorded for 4 of our songs tonight. 3 more to go. Not using analog tape but that's fine.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 26, 2013, 02:58:39 AM
How does guitar neck length apart from string size effect tone?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on February 26, 2013, 08:50:30 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 26, 2013, 02:58:39 AM
How does guitar neck length apart from string size effect tone?

Different scale lengths will have different string tensions.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on February 26, 2013, 08:58:45 AM
To refret a messed up neck or go fretless with it? Ideally a new fretboard and frets but I'm not sure an 87/88 Squier bass is worth that much effort/expense. What yous reckon?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/733788_10151251700576741_2015631463_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/549790_10151251700671741_1192390768_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/733788_10151251700576741_2015631463_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on February 26, 2013, 09:03:49 AM
Quote from: Discö Rice on February 25, 2013, 10:37:03 PM
So uhhh... My band broke up. On to the next, I guess.

Shoulda let her "handle the bookings?"   :P

Seriously, though:  sucks to hear.  Bigger and better things, man.  Keep your head up and your drums huge.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on February 26, 2013, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 26, 2013, 02:58:39 AM
How does guitar neck length apart from string size effect tone?

Scale length changes string tension and compliance, but its only one factor. Got to assume the pickups all move proportionally, otherwise their relative position in the scale is going to be a big deal to output tone. Longer necks as in having more frets tends to shift the neck pickup to make space, which will be a tone change, otherwise makes not much odds.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 26, 2013, 09:19:57 AM
Moosey, just level and recrown them. Tap the lifted ones back down with a non marring hammer and file them out. Then sannnnddd.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 26, 2013, 09:53:41 AM
This is something I'd recommend if you're truly interested in the scale length particulars.

http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/sonic-essentials--all-about-scale-length/8450 (http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/sonic-essentials--all-about-scale-length/8450)

Oh, and I prefer to play on humbucker-equipped Teles these days for all of the reasons listed in the article: especially tighter string tension (with dropped tunings) and more harmonic "snap" or twang, to cut through. Although I prefer the feel of a Les Paul (I've got a long relationship with them), they just sound more muted, muddy, and less vibrant than my humbucker Teles do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 26, 2013, 01:15:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on February 26, 2013, 09:16:16 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 26, 2013, 02:58:39 AM
How does guitar neck length apart from string size effect tone?

Scale length changes string tension and compliance, but its only one factor. Got to assume the pickups all move proportionally, otherwise their relative position in the scale is going to be a big deal to output tone. Longer necks as in having more frets tends to shift the neck pickup to make space, which will be a tone change, otherwise makes not much odds.

Longer scales are better for lower tunings, that should at least translate to more clarity right?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on February 26, 2013, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on February 25, 2013, 11:53:52 PM
Thank you. I do hope that's what happens. I don't handle not playing music well at all. I know I have friends, a great girl, and even a couple of family members that all care about me, but there's this deep, persistent feeling of failure and isolation when things like this happen. The only way to avoid it is to find some new project right away.

I know how that feels, big time. I didn't have any band going for something like 3 years, didn't like the band I was in for years before that, now I'm in several bands and almost none of them do anything. I feel that frustration, because when it really works and everything snaps into place it's a fucking rush. Just keep your momentum going, do some solo stuff if you have to, just don't let it drag you down and not make music. I only say that because I do that and it sucks, trying to break that cycle over the last year for myself.


Quote from: moose23 on February 26, 2013, 08:58:45 AM
To refret a messed up neck or go fretless with it? Ideally a new fretboard and frets but I'm not sure an 87/88 Squier bass is worth that much effort/expense. What yous reckon?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/733788_10151251700576741_2015631463_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/549790_10151251700671741_1192390768_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/733788_10151251700576741_2015631463_n.jpg)

Holy crap...looks someone dipped that think in epoxy. Try stripping the neck first and see what the wood actually looks like under all that wavy goop.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on February 27, 2013, 07:31:32 AM
I think it's heavily brushed on varnish. I'm gonna see if the frets or at least some of them can be salvaged but not sure how likely that is.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 27, 2013, 08:32:05 AM
Send it to me.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on February 27, 2013, 09:09:17 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 27, 2013, 08:32:05 AM
Send it to me.

No problem as long if you want to pay for the return shipping from Dublin, Ireland to Florida. It'll be going to my usual luthier when I'm home this weekend although it might be one of his sons or myself doing the work so it's cheaper/free. It's also much messier in person.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 27, 2013, 09:38:12 AM
Damn Irishmen. Stripping that shit suuuuucks. Probably be worth it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Zero on February 27, 2013, 11:30:44 AM
Just finished up two new tracks in the studio for a split coming out this spring. Stuff sounds great even before mastering. Kept the songs short enough that we might be pressing 7"s for this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 27, 2013, 03:31:20 PM
So I've come to the realization we're maybe not just a live band? I dunno, we just keep jamming, not creating fully fleshed songs, they remain very Hawkwind-ian jams. Which could count as songs but since the recording gear is crapping out more than it is fully functioning, it's hard to actually come back to stuff next rehearsal. Usually I might remember some root notes but it takes a while to try to recreate them. Definitely the feel of the song is sometimes hard to get right again. That all being said, we've now been playing together for a year and a half now and in comparison, we have grown a lot. Our drummer -who's a musical guy- had just bought his own first kit when we started. The guitarist and me didn't get decent gear until last summer. We're all so good friends that I can't really imagine playing with anybody else. If this is what it is, so be it. I used to get frustrated about it, now not so much. Forever onward, I guess.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 27, 2013, 04:32:09 PM
You guys... :-[ Thank you for the well-wishes and such. Thanks to a hot tip from Lumpy I just sent an email to a guy on craigslist that seems to have good taste and a level head, so I'll see where that goes. Honestly I'm already a lot less bummed about this. All I've been thinking today is "I am free. I am free. I am fucking free.".
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on February 28, 2013, 08:04:26 AM
Damn- so I guess we can 'unlike' the Leadbreath fb page.  Good luck man- fwiw, I've been in bands with women a few times and it seems like there's always a heightened level of drama/bullshit.  Not to generalize or suggest that's what went on with you guys, jussayng.....
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 28, 2013, 09:04:15 AM
I want to be in an all girl band. L
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on February 28, 2013, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: the diddler on February 28, 2013, 08:04:26 AM
Damn- so I guess we can 'unlike' the Leadbreath fb page.  Good luck man- fwiw, I've been in bands with women a few times and it seems like there's always a heightened level of drama/bullshit.  Not to generalize or suggest that's what went on with you guys, jussayng.....

Heh. Yeah. I feel like explaining this behavior away as being based on gender isn't fair to good female creative partners or totally assfuck dick-tarded men. Some people are just plain assholes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on February 28, 2013, 09:10:15 PM
I've had it go both ways. Hard to generalize. Was in a band with a female cowriter and guitarist and it went great.

On the other hand jammed with a couple of girls to see about putting a band together and they showed up with no amps. Or pedals or chords.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 28, 2013, 11:28:46 PM
so im thinking of picking up a sax..anyone ever play one..what should i know..i tried to play a friends once and i couldnt get it to make a sound..should i look into a few lessons.


i know what i want to do and i have a drummer lined up to do it. i might consider adding a bassist but thats optional at this point..first i need the sax..

please advise..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 01, 2013, 08:24:32 AM
I used to play alto sax in high school. It's not a terribly difficult instrument to play once you've learned the basics.

The most expensive thing you might need to do to a used one is replace all the pads over the holes, which can be expensive. As a result, I'd put good pads high on the list, right after tone. I have to admit I like the tenor sax's sound the best, and a metal mouthpiece will get you more bite and raunch than a plastic one. As to making the sound, it's all about getting the reed vibrating. Your emboucher (sp? it means how you hold the mouthpiece in yer mouf) needs to be somewhat relaxed, so don't bite down on it. Breathe to the belly, not the chest.

That's about all I remember. I graduated in 1979.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 01, 2013, 12:38:04 PM
Learn circular breathing... the sax players who make the most noise are using circular breathing. It ramps your output way up when you don't have to stop to breathe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 01, 2013, 01:48:02 PM
I'm all for opening new horizons of self-exploration and all that -- but the saxophone, unless played by one of the all time greats (or if you're in Morphine), very much sounds like ear poison to me. Don't blame me, blame the wretched 1980s.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on March 01, 2013, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: mortlock on February 28, 2013, 11:28:46 PM
so im thinking of picking up a sax..anyone ever play one..what should i know..i tried to play a friends once and i couldnt get it to make a sound..should i look into a few lessons.


i know what i want to do and i have a drummer lined up to do it. i might consider adding a bassist but thats optional at this point..first i need the sax..

please advise..

I've heard sax is a really good platform for noise artists (moreso than guitar or bass anyway).  I also really dig Bruce's playing in Yakuza. 

Not a lot of advice I guess, but best of luck in your endeavors!  Learning new things is awesome and can be lots of fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on March 01, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
They're great for musical farting as Nik Turners playing testifies.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 01, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
A local cover band has a sax player. They mostly play rock songs and it doesn't work. They did an early Floyd set once and the sax basically ruined it.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 01, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/02/utazujur.jpg)

The one that got away came back
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on March 01, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
Did you make sweet love to it or fuck the shit outta it?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 01, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
JCM 800 > Sunn Model T

*ducks for cover*
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2013, 04:32:02 PM
The B string parts sounded way more quiet at the gig last night than they do at practice. Weird. Time for a thicker B string?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 02, 2013, 04:59:35 PM
I saw Pilgrim last night (doom trio from Rhode Island). They plug straight into their amps, no pedals. Not even a tuner. Just plenty of clean power. Bass player had two big cabs, looked like the guitar player had a MusicMan head and a full stack. They sounded good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 02, 2013, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2013, 04:32:02 PM
The B string parts sounded way more quiet at the gig last night than they do at practice. Weird. Time for a thicker B string?

Were you using a thinner B-string than in practice?

If not, why would you attribute it to string gauge?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 02, 2013, 05:14:50 PM
Some rooms eat up some frequencies
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 02, 2013, 05:28:27 PM
It will definitely sound different in a club than it does in your practice room. Ask somebody who saw the show how it sounded - it can sound different to the audience than it did to you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Same strings as practice. I'll ask some friends if they noticed what I did. The room eating up the frequencies is probably spot on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 02, 2013, 04:59:35 PM
I saw Pilgrim last night (doom trio from Rhode Island). They plug straight into their amps, no pedals. Not even a tuner. Just plenty of clean power. Bass player had two big cabs, looked like the guitar player had a MusicMan head and a full stack. They sounded good.

I have their album and am mixed on it although I'd still like to see them live sometime. I'm not that familiar with MusicMan heads and don't know if they feature extra on tap preamp distortion but am I right in assuming that you mean the tone was more tube overdrive like than super crunchy metal distortion? The album guitar tone is fairly metaly distortion sounding although it's not as high gain as most other modern doom metal bands.

Batillus last night sounded very tube overdriven vs pedal high gain and it worked very well for them. There were several moments where almost every head I could see in front of me was at least nodding to their mighty riffage. Nobody moshed. It was awesome. Just folks being overwhelmed by the sonic destruction.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 02, 2013, 09:07:02 PM
That Pilgrim album is straight up Musicman overdrive, maybe a little push with a really transparent boost.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2013, 10:47:44 PM
Ah. I think it's the cab micing that gives the extra gain on record, dealing with that lately myself for recording, had to adjust my tone a bit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 05, 2013, 11:21:04 AM
In Ocean of Stars news things are progressing.

The sax player is doing great. He can also chart music and sight-read which proved invaluable when I met with him last week. Saved LOTS of time in showing him the Arabic 13/8 time bass solo I wanted him to play on sax instead. Trying to coordinate getting together with him and the drummer for tomorrow.

Also have a lead on a B3 player...! Holy shitballs! He is busy with a full time band (150-200 gigs a year) but looking for things to do in his off time. My girlfriend actually found him for me. Was well aware of my reputation in town and knew exactly who I am. We have yet to talk but in responding to my voicemail he digs the music and is interested.

This is getting very interesting very quick. With a B3 player I may not actually *need* a bassist and 2nd guitar player... But may need those two pieces for when he is out of town. 2 versions of the band could be really interesting!

In recording news have been demoing stuff out using GarageBand and making progress. Working on a new album and it'll be great to take my time on it, rather than bashing it out in 28 days and releasing it warts and all.

Also have part of an unreleased song that will be featured in a scene of an independent movie. Sweet! No pay but great exposure. Score:1 for independent unsigned artists!


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 06, 2013, 04:20:21 AM
Sunn thats awesome you got your JCM back! Iv been through a similar deal but it didnt have a happy ending, gear becomes so sentimental though doesnt it!

Iv been working on writing stuff for years and now its finally coming together after what feels like forever, its been around 10 years since I last played a gig and now it looks like I'll be back within a few months and recording an album later this year, the studio is booked and im so psyched! iv gone through so many times where iv seriously doubted myself for taking so long, and for it taking so long for a band to take shape but now we have a full band and its sounding good, I can start to realise that I wasnt crazy or wasting my time for thinking I could do this :)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 06, 2013, 04:45:09 AM
Jumzi sighting! Holy crackers! Glad to hear it, lady!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on March 06, 2013, 07:35:34 AM
MusicMan related: I saw Arbouretum last week and the guitarist used a HD130 combo, a Egnater head (I'm guessing the 88W Tweaker) and an Orange 4x12. I was surprised by how heavy it sounded because their records don't really convince me that much but live, it was pretty good. Bassist used a simple Ashdown SS head, a 6x10 Ampeg and a Fulltone OCD for grit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 06, 2013, 06:44:38 PM
I'm playing in a Hawkwind cover band (doing the oscillator sounds) and I'm thinking about quitting. The original idea was described as 'we'll have two or three practices, and then play a show'. Strictly for fun.

Well, now we're on practice #7, and the dudes still don't know the songs (they know about 3 out of 6). Two of the guys have children and serious jobs, and are routinely canceling/rescheduling practices. It fucking sucks to sit there and watch these idiots hash out their parts, and they clearly have spent no time at home learning their parts. Also, we have to practice on Sundays at 11 am due to scheduling (and it takes an hour to get there on the subway). It's irritating to hear them joking around "heh heh, it's just Hawkwind" like the music is soooo simple and beneath them (and they can't even play it correctly).

All that wouldn't matter if they could rock, but they don't. Bass player can't drive the band at all. Since I can play bass too, it's like torture to see. And now they're talking about adding other music to the set (Pink Floyd) and maybe writing some originals. JFC... I don't wanna be a prima donna, but they are really stretching my patience.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on March 06, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 06, 2013, 06:44:38 PM
Also, we have to practice on Sundays at 11 am due to scheduling (and it takes an hour to get there on the subway).

But that's church time!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 06, 2013, 07:00:52 PM
That's what I'm saying! That's the Lord's time.

These guys start drinking beer at 11am on Sunday. Maybe playing in a band is about the fellowship for them... might as well be a bowling league, or poker night. They wanna hang out, have some beers, shoot the shit, fumble their way through some songs. Aint nobody got time for that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 06, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 06, 2013, 06:44:38 PM
I'm playing in a Hawkwind cover band (doing the oscillator sounds) and I'm thinking about quitting. The original idea was described as 'we'll have two or three practices, and then play a show'. Strictly for fun.

Well, now we're on practice #7, and the dudes still don't know the songs (they know about 3 out of 6). Two of the guys have children and serious jobs, and are routinely canceling/rescheduling practices. It fucking sucks to sit there and watch these idiots hash out their parts, and they clearly have spent no time at home learning their parts. Also, we have to practice on Sundays at 11 am due to scheduling (and it takes an hour to get there on the subway). It's irritating to hear them joking around "heh heh, it's just Hawkwind" like the music is soooo simple and beneath them (and they can't even play it correctly).

All that wouldn't matter if they could rock, but they don't. Bass player can't drive the band at all. Since I can play bass too, it's like torture to see. And now they're talking about adding other music to the set (Pink Floyd) and maybe writing some originals. JFC... I don't wanna be a prima donna, but they are really stretching my patience.

That is truly a shit situation. I remember you saying the bass player is also one of the organizers of this thing, which sucks, because I'm sure you could snatch that thing from his hand and show him how to drive a band. Maybe you should? Why not embarrass him into learning how to play his instrument? I did that to a bass player in one of my old bands. He ended up quitting (which was fine, ultimately), but maybe that would be okay in your situation. If thine bass player offendeth thee, showeth his ass the door. From the way you were describing it on Sunday it sounds like they'd rather drink and play Rock Band. Fuck lawyers, man. Fuck their safe-as-milk cover versions of music they'll never get. Fuck their incomes. Fuck their security. They will never, ever know the real danger that comes with being a real musician, like you are. What inspiration - what drive could they possibly have? You can do better, dude.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 06, 2013, 07:25:45 PM
I'm running on about two hours of sleep, so pardon the histrionics. Seriously though - those guys suck. You don't need 'em.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 06, 2013, 07:38:21 PM
Damn, you gotta get more sleep dude.

One of the guys is the guitar player in my 'real' band, so I have to be nice (he's also one of the guys who shows up unprepared).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 06, 2013, 08:00:07 PM
Dan doesn't suck. I really like his playing . Showing up unprepared is not awesome, though. You'se  goons is slummin' it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 07, 2013, 10:05:22 AM
Me want.

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/Bulldog_Music/Schecter/TempestSpecialTVY_zpscbbd9f4b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 07, 2013, 11:20:30 AM
I have a hard time thinking of anything but terrible nu-metal guitars when I see the Schecter logo, but I do like that one.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 07, 2013, 11:29:47 AM
I agree with Gabe
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on March 07, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
Heard good things about their new bass VI's too:

(http://www.schecterguitars.com/products/Telerik.Web.UI.WebResource.axd?imgid=f9f01e1fc6ce4e6a904b29a00e93b380&type=rbi)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 07, 2013, 12:02:09 PM
Why is it so fucking ugly? I want it.

I wish somebody would make a fucking guitar that looked good with a 30" scale
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on March 07, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 07, 2013, 12:02:09 PM
Why is it so fucking ugly? I want it.

I wish somebody would make a fucking guitar that looked good with a 30" scale

You think that one's bad, check out the silverburst.  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 07, 2013, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on March 07, 2013, 10:05:22 AM
Me want.

(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/Bulldog_Music/Schecter/TempestSpecialTVY_zpscbbd9f4b.jpg)


Wow. Looks like a Gibson RD mated with a LP Special. I like it. But that heinous Dean-like headstock is a dealbreaker (for me). The neck inlays are pretty flashy for what should be a "meat & potatoes" styled instrument as well.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 07, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
That VI looks like a shitty fish.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 07, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
Fuck that noise. I'll take all the god damned silverbursts. Mine.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 07, 2013, 04:25:42 PM
That geet is pretty damn ugly ~.^

disco, maybe just find a gig asap with the 3 that they know, the buzz of the gig might kick their asses into sorting it out more, if they can't rock like you say tho then that's gonna take a lot of time and patience. I always thought a good tip is if anyone cancels, the praccy still goes ahead no matter what, even if its just the drummer and bassist one night it's really good for development and better than nothing. It's hard to find the right people all on the same page, I dunno how people seem to manage it so easily, for me it's chemistry, if its not there I can't do it....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 07, 2013, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on March 07, 2013, 04:25:42 PM
That geet is pretty damn ugly ~.^

disco, maybe just find a gig asap with the 3 that they know, the buzz of the gig might kick their asses into sorting it out more, if they can't rock like you say tho then that's gonna take a lot of time and patience. I always thought a good tip is if anyone cancels, the praccy still goes ahead no matter what, even if its just the drummer and bassist one night it's really good for development and better than nothing. It's hard to find the right people all on the same page, I dunno how people seem to manage it so easily, for me it's chemistry, if its not there I can't do it....

It's Lumpy's band, not mine. I'm newly divorced from my own band, hence my encouraging others to do the same, I think. It's a good feeling.

Quote from: SunnO))) on March 07, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
That VI looks like a shitty fish.
A fish with tits. Titty fish.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 07, 2013, 05:46:37 PM
Oh man! Sorry lumpy I just got confused with all the epicness! ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 08, 2013, 06:00:29 PM
Writing leads is fun! Even the pretty simple slow/midpaced ones I'm capable of.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on March 08, 2013, 08:23:05 PM
Im going to be working the merch table for my friends band in LA on sunday at the nik turner space ritual show. Come say hi if youll be there
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 08, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Tried out for a black metal band. Soon as he started playing a riff, I harmonized it, and they asked me if I wanted to join. Who said Thin lizzy never taught me nothing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 09, 2013, 12:24:57 AM
slayer harmonizes
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on March 09, 2013, 11:11:08 AM
Set up a facebook page for my amps thing: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ampstack/351966881575839

Dweebs come post pictures of your amps, especially the insides.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 09, 2013, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 09, 2013, 11:11:08 AM
Set up a facebook page for my amps thing: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ampstack/351966881575839

Dweebs come post pictures of your amps, especially the insides.
Liked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on March 09, 2013, 11:30:34 AM
Quote from: Instant Dan on March 07, 2013, 10:05:22 AM(http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv261/Bulldog_Music/Schecter/TempestSpecialTVY_zpscbbd9f4b.jpg)



Looks like an S-300 with a smaller horn and no battle axe.

Which reminds me....
I still want an S-300
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tossom on March 09, 2013, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 09, 2013, 11:11:08 AM
Set up a facebook page for my amps thing: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ampstack/351966881575839

Dweebs come post pictures of your amps, especially the insides.

Liked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 09, 2013, 06:48:07 PM
Well, just posted a "drummer available" ad on craigslist. On high alert for stranger danger.  :-\
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on March 09, 2013, 08:30:26 PM
You should see the Cra....wait, "u shud c the craglist ads hear"

"drumer, wants to rock play some orignals and covers just wana rock"

I tried this ad title to thwart dingleberries: "Blue Cheer, Orange Goblin, Red Fang, Black Flag"...I got two "u like metalica" replies. In this small market, (obviously not NYC, haha) a CL ad is basically useless, all "our" musicians already know each other.

/useless anecdote
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 09, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
That's funny - I responded to an ad and didn't hear back for over a a week. I posted an ad and heard back inside an hour, and I'm almost certain it's the guy I wrote to in the first place.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 09, 2013, 08:51:34 PM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on March 09, 2013, 08:30:26 PM
You should see the Cra....wait, "u shud c the craglist ads hear"

"drumer, wants to rock play some orignals and covers just wana rock"

I tried this ad title to thwart dingleberries: "Blue Cheer, Orange Goblin, Red Fang, Black Flag"...I got two "u like metalica" replies. In this small market, (obviously not NYC, haha) a CL ad is basically useless, all "our" musicians already know each other.

/useless anecdote

I was afraid of exactly that, only on a NYC scale. Hundreds of "u like Metallica?"  or "u like AIC?" or " dude! siiiiiick! - do any of those bands sound like Hatebreed? I fukkn loooooove Hatebreed! Do u like Pantera?" and so on.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 09, 2013, 08:56:05 PM
P.S. I dig the color scheme. I really should've tried to be more clever.
:(
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 09, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on March 09, 2013, 08:38:35 PM
That's funny - I responded to an ad and didn't hear back for over a a week. I posted an ad and heard back inside an hour, and I'm almost certain it's the guy I wrote to in the first place.

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 09, 2013, 11:31:21 PM
Those are my favorite responses, "I've never heard of any of those bands but u like Pantera?!"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 11, 2013, 12:33:44 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 09, 2013, 11:31:21 PM
Those are my favorite responses, "I've never heard of any of those bands but u like Pantera?!"

These guys made sure to ask me if I was into Alice in Chains or Tool. Apparently they think I'd be a good fit for their Nickelback cover band. (Listen to it - I fucking dare you.)

http://m.soundcloud.com/quarterhorse-radio/yard

Can't wait to play USO shows with these super rad dudes. I might even get to high-five Kid Rock.

Then there's this other guy (the one that contacted me inside an hour of my posting the ad) that says he likes a lot of the same bands that I do (First three bands I listed - Melvins, Harvey Milk, Swans), but his music says otherwise. Hot Snakes and Sunny Day Real Estate are more like it. (in fairness, he did mention both of those bands in his response)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on March 11, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
pre craigs list we used to put ads in the village voice and we'd hang up flyers in bars and laundromats, music stores, etc. we were lookin for a drummer. my faves:
-guy who hung up on me when I asked how old he was. I called him back and he was working at sam ash, asked him why he hung up on me, said "no one asks mick jagger how old he is!". haha.
-guy who showed up to the audtition with no sticks(the only thing he was asked to bring). we borrrowed hm some sticks and it was obvious he had never played the drums before in his life. he started doing the faux keith moon, I have no idea how to play drums, drum solo
-guy who was a model and wanted to know how soon we'd be on mtv.

we'd also go to cbgbs on audtion night and try to steal other bands drummers(if they were any good). that never worked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on March 11, 2013, 08:03:46 PM
Had a blast smoking joints with D-rider himself after enjoying his Space Ritual set.  Never had so much fun in LA.  Connected with the guy from cleopatra records. I think I might be doing some shirt printing for him. Looks promising. Also hung out with the ultra electric omega guys.  Super cool dudes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 12, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
Haha  ;D

I remember we found an ad on gumtree (similar to Craigslist) this guy advertising as a 'death metal' drummer, we asked him along and when he showed up we were like right lets go down to your car and help you bring up your stuff, to which he said he'd not brought anything he'd just come to watch, so not having it we set up our own kit and insisted he play, about 10 minutes in he was panting and sweating, totally exhausted, playing really painfully simple poppy beats, then he wanted to know if the practise rooms had any lock ups big enough to fit his whole kit so he'd never have to dismantle it! The worst thing was that he seemed not to have heard of any of the death bands we brought up not even Autopsy, bad times  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on March 12, 2013, 10:02:12 PM

Hey Jumz, 

How is Harry Neil doing?
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Post by: liquidsmoke on March 13, 2013, 01:35:31 AM
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/mazeofliquidsmoke/IMG_1442_zps7d215cf7.jpg)

Backup Epi.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on March 13, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
First two shows with the new band this weekend.  I think I'm ready.....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/MAHNHAMMER/263814914966 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/MAHNHAMMER/263814914966)
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Post by: Jake on March 13, 2013, 04:05:13 PM
Awesome. Break a leg, chico.

Or someone else's leg.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 14, 2013, 04:06:38 AM
Hairyneil is good! He's still a gear nerd, I'll tell him to get his ass back here!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 14, 2013, 08:12:19 AM
Yes. Moar Hairy Neil.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 18, 2013, 04:23:57 PM
(http://blog.wfmu.org/.a/6a00d83451c29169e20120a5823060970b-800wi)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justinhedrick on March 19, 2013, 12:29:13 PM
my band is opening for Jucifer on April 1. that's cool. 2nd show we've ever played. first was almost a year ago!  ;D ??? :-\
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 19, 2013, 12:44:56 PM
Talk me out of selling my 2204 for another amp.

Originally was thinking of doing a 6-knob Laney Pro-Tube. Then got to thinking of selling it and putting towards a Dunwich build of a half-wattage Laney Klipp or Model T with a MV mod.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justinhedrick on March 19, 2013, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on March 19, 2013, 12:44:56 PM
Talk me out of selling my 2204 for another amp.

Originally was thinking of doing a 6-knob Laney Pro-Tube. Then got to thinking of selling it and putting towards a Dunwich build of a half-wattage Laney Klipp or Model T with a MV mod.

why do you NOT like about it? let's start there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 19, 2013, 12:53:31 PM
Do not sell your 2204 for another amp.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 19, 2013, 01:18:48 PM
It seems lately I just can't dial out that 80's 'GnR' sound. The problem is partially the overdrive I am using, OCD, and the p'ups in my LP (57 classics).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 19, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
With what speakers? People massively underestimate the humongous contribution speakers make to an amp's sound.

Also, that '80s GnR sound is goddanmned delightful (IMO) and people often pay big bucks chasing it.
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Post by: Instant Dan on March 19, 2013, 01:32:35 PM
It is not a bad sound at all, just not what I am looking for at the moment. I want more grunt, so to speak.


A mix of V30/G12H30

Tuned to drop Db flat.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 19, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Welcome to the jungle.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 19, 2013, 01:41:44 PM
So just tune down lower in the short term and aim to get some different speakers in the long term?
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Post by: Jake on March 19, 2013, 02:10:06 PM
Naw. I love your speaker combo. I think you're right in suspecting your overdrive as a contributing factor so I'd experiment with dirt boxes. It's a usually pretty cheap way to squeeze a mess of new sounds out of your amp. If you don't find anything you like, then think about selling it.

FWIW, I had a Way Huge Swollen Pickle in front of my 800, and it sounded nothing like GnR.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on March 19, 2013, 04:34:45 PM
Yeah get a different drive rather than changing amps. OCD is super transparent so get something not transparent.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 19, 2013, 04:38:52 PM
I totally <3 my MXR distortion III. hey are cheap and have a good amount of boost to the output knob without dialing in the distortion...and then there's the distortion.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 19, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
My 800 + Caitlinbread SCOD = All forms of metal.

Pharaoh + 800 = Doom

COMPRESSOR + SCOD + 800 + Peavey T-60 tuned to A standard = YOB
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on March 20, 2013, 08:54:45 AM
I dreamed about a pair of awesome sounding V4s last night.  I also dreamed about getting it on with a lesbian ex-coworker.  WTF is wrong with me?
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Post by: VOLVO))) on March 20, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
Alright, first show with the band I joined eight days ago. Already wrote leads and harmonized all of the guitar parts.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on March 20, 2013, 11:41:05 AM
Where are y'all playing?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 20, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
Hidden Hand with Batillus!
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Post by: justinhedrick on March 20, 2013, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 20, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
Hidden Hand with Batillus!

what's the band name, jakey?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on March 20, 2013, 01:10:29 PM
Yeah, curious too.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 20, 2013, 02:12:42 PM
Rovagug
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Post by: Discö Rice on March 20, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 20, 2013, 02:12:42 PM
Rovagug
Fun fact: There are no English anagrams for Rovagug.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 20, 2013, 03:30:06 PM
Go, ur vag.

;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tossom on March 20, 2013, 03:31:06 PM
I look forward to hearing the sweet sounds of SunnO)))'s vag.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 20, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
RPG-related band names are all the rage these daze...
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 20, 2013, 04:30:17 PM
I didnt pick the name, but coming from somebody who was in a band named Skull-anything, Ill assume you're kidding and not take you seriously as usual.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 20, 2013, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 20, 2013, 04:30:17 PM
I didnt pick the name, but coming from somebody who was in a band named Skull-anything, Ill assume you're kidding and not take you seriously as usual.

No, I was serious. RPG-related band names are all the rage theses daze.

Point taken on my short tenure in that "Skull-anything" band, but as in your case, I didn't pick the name.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on March 20, 2013, 10:58:15 PM
:-D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on March 21, 2013, 01:49:21 PM
At least the name isn't prefaced by "Black".
Why would anyone do that?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justinhedrick on March 21, 2013, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: black on March 21, 2013, 01:49:21 PM
At least the name isn't prefaced by "Black".
Why would anyone do that?

My band has the word "red" in it . . .
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Post by: black on March 21, 2013, 03:49:37 PM
My band has the word "Black" prefacing it.
I was trying to indulge in self-mocking.

I like "Red" though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 21, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: black on March 21, 2013, 03:49:37 PM
My band has the word "Black" prefacing it.
I was trying to indulge in self-mocking.

I like "Red" though.

Well, at least you didn't use a girl's first name after the "Black."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 21, 2013, 04:40:17 PM
Unless your girl's name is Sabbath. Or Flag.



Or Onblonde.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on March 21, 2013, 05:03:38 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 21, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: black on March 21, 2013, 03:49:37 PM
My band has the word "Black" prefacing it.
I was trying to indulge in self-mocking.

I like "Red" though.

Well, at least you didn't use a girl's first name after the "Black."

Damnit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on March 21, 2013, 08:02:25 PM
FINALLY have the new split record finished, printed, delivered, for sale.  Turned out visually better than I expected.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/5962_507603822635800_2125455864_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 21, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
Have a RS Hairpie '75 with 3-way mid-switch and BAT Black Forest on the way. Been looking for the Hairpie for too long.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 22, 2013, 04:50:50 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on March 21, 2013, 08:02:25 PM
FINALLY have the new split record finished, printed, delivered, for sale.  Turned out visually better than I expected.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/5962_507603822635800_2125455864_n.jpg)

Nice artwork, looks very cool. Who was your manufacturer? Are they CD or CDR?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on March 22, 2013, 02:45:14 PM
My bass amp just died. Fuck me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 23, 2013, 04:00:47 AM
well that didn't work...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 24, 2013, 12:22:22 AM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/295679_10151508325523258_690488958_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on March 24, 2013, 03:17:39 AM
I'm not sure how much of this I've already posted on GD.  I was coming home from my local watering hole on Dec 2 12 and was, ummm, robbed at 2 gun points in my garage commando style.  Dudes were practiced and excellent at their craft.  Right after getting out of my car in my garage, perhaps, 6-8 young stereotypically ethnic men appeared out of nowhere like military special forces.  I was invited into my house, placed face down in my kitchen while my less cumbersome guitar equipment, computers, and other misc. shiney crap was helped out of my possession.  Next, I  drove my own car, minus my cabin rear view mirror, to a nearby ATM and lent them $600 USD, at 2 gun points.  They, then, placed me in the trunk of my Camry at what was an obviously pre arranged drop off point.  The green gunman says my Camry has a handle in the trunk that allows me to "escape".  I say something to the effect that I'm not going to fuck the situation up and I'll keep my head low for 5 seeing as how I don't want shot.  Experienced gunman shut the trunk on me and I start fiddling around for some sort of handle in my trunk that'll open it that I didn't know about until Green gunman announced it out loud. It takes me one minute to get out of my trunk and there is/are no one in sight.  Slick.  I crack open a New Belguim Ranger IPA, bought a sixer earlier and had it in the trunk, and walk to the nearest cross street.  Call 911 and tell'm I've been armed robbed and kidnapped.  Gave them my cross street location.  Didn't even finish my beer when PTSD, motherfucker, asshole cop shows up and starts interragating me because I've got a beer and no keys to my car, wants to impound my car and take me to police station.  Other cop (Good Cop wink wink nudge nudge) suggests we drive by my house to see if I've really been robbed.  Cunts.  "Which house is yours?" "The one with all the lights on and all the doors open.  There, see the garage door open?!"  "Oh."  Then the fucking useless assfucks realized I wasn't telling them a story.  The only thing that I can say positive about the cuntwhorepolice officers was that they did not trash the remaining 5 beers, otherwise they were bad police officers.  I would like it both of them die painfully and I mean it.  I lost much of my gear.  They did not take my cabs, however.  Obviously they didn't have room in their crookmobile for 4x12s.  So, they didn't get the Electric 412 loaded with Wizards, ;) Dan.  They got my Tradition LP wif super custom pus, Carvin X-100B with tubes worth as much as the rest of the amp, 3 computers, recording equipment, mics, tv, etc.  I haven't been able to yap about it really until now.  Part of my self imposed thereapy has been the purchase of the 77 LP Custom.  I'm rounding it out with some pedals.  Cops are shitty people.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 24, 2013, 06:14:58 AM
Holy fuck, that's horrible. How would they know you're a good target, and what time you come home etc? Inside info from somewhere? Anyway, that sucks bug time.
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Post by: the diddler on March 24, 2013, 08:25:01 AM
where you livin' dogfood?  did you get insurance $$ for the stuff those assholes stole?
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Post by: VOLVO))) on March 24, 2013, 08:52:22 AM
Why would anyone own a Camry?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 24, 2013, 10:37:58 AM
That's awful, dude. Just glad you're ok. It's just gear.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on March 24, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
That burglary shit blows and I would feel pretty damn violated and traumatized afterwards. Especially with the pole huffery of the two douchebag cops.

Any of you amp dudes know what would be causing a Sunn Coliseum to make fart noises when I pluck my strings? I have eliminated blown speakers by hooking my cab to another head.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on March 24, 2013, 10:54:22 AM
Love you, doggie!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Drama on March 24, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on March 24, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
Any of you amp dudes know what would be causing a Sunn Coliseum to make fart noises when I pluck my strings? I have eliminated blown speakers by hooking my cab to another head.

Do you use active pickups? Checked the battery? I've seen that more than a few times at the studio.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on March 24, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on March 24, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
That burglary shit blows and I would feel pretty damn violated and traumatized afterwards. Especially with the pole huffery of the two douchebag cops.

Any of you amp dudes know what would be causing a Sunn Coliseum to make fart noises when I pluck my strings? I have eliminated blown speakers by hooking my cab to another head.

depending on style of fart, cracked solder and bad connections will do it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 25, 2013, 08:21:59 AM
Quote from: dogfood on March 24, 2013, 03:17:39 AM
I'm not sure how much of this I've already posted on GD.  I was coming home from my local watering hole on Dec 2 12 and was, ummm, robbed at 2 gun points in my garage commando style.  Dudes were practiced and excellent at their craft.  Right after getting out of my car in my garage, perhaps, 6-8 young stereotypically ethnic men appeared out of nowhere like military special forces.  I was invited into my house, placed face down in my kitchen while my less cumbersome guitar equipment, computers, and other misc. shiney crap was helped out of my possession.  Next, I  drove my own car, minus my cabin rear view mirror, to a nearby ATM and lent them $600 USD, at 2 gun points.  They, then, placed me in the trunk of my Camry at what was an obviously pre arranged drop off point.  The green gunman says my Camry has a handle in the trunk that allows me to "escape".  I say something to the effect that I'm not going to fuck the situation up and I'll keep my head low for 5 seeing as how I don't want shot.  Experienced gunman shut the trunk on me and I start fiddling around for some sort of handle in my trunk that'll open it that I didn't know about until Green gunman announced it out loud. It takes me one minute to get out of my trunk and there is/are no one in sight.  Slick.  I crack open a New Belguim Ranger IPA, bought a sixer earlier and had it in the trunk, and walk to the nearest cross street.  Call 911 and tell'm I've been armed robbed and kidnapped.  Gave them my cross street location.  Didn't even finish my beer when PTSD, motherfucker, asshole cop shows up and starts interragating me because I've got a beer and no keys to my car, wants to impound my car and take me to police station.  Other cop (Good Cop wink wink nudge nudge) suggests we drive by my house to see if I've really been robbed.  Cunts.  "Which house is yours?" "The one with all the lights on and all the doors open.  There, see the garage door open?!"  "Oh."  Then the fucking useless assfucks realized I wasn't telling them a story.  The only thing that I can say positive about the cuntwhorepolice officers was that they did not trash the remaining 5 beers, otherwise they were bad police officers.  I would like it both of them die painfully and I mean it.  I lost much of my gear.  They did not take my cabs, however.  Obviously they didn't have room in their crookmobile for 4x12s.  So, they didn't get the Electric 412 loaded with Wizards, ;) Dan.  They got my Tradition LP wif super custom pus, Carvin X-100B with tubes worth as much as the rest of the amp, 3 computers, recording equipment, mics, tv, etc.  I haven't been able to yap about it really until now.  Part of my self imposed thereapy has been the purchase of the 77 LP Custom.  I'm rounding it out with some pedals.  Cops are shitty people.

Holy shit. You have my utmost empathy.

Also shitty people- the piece of shit thugs that robbed and kidnapped you. I would like to find and murder each of them in cold blood.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 25, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: dogfood on March 24, 2013, 03:17:39 AM
I'm not sure how much of this I've already posted on GD.  I was coming home from my local watering hole on Dec 2 12 and was, ummm, robbed at 2 gun points in my garage commando style.  Dudes were practiced and excellent at their craft.  Right after getting out of my car in my garage, perhaps, 6-8 young stereotypically ethnic men appeared out of nowhere like military special forces.  I was invited into my house, placed face down in my kitchen while my less cumbersome guitar equipment, computers, and other misc. shiney crap was helped out of my possession.  Next, I  drove my own car, minus my cabin rear view mirror, to a nearby ATM and lent them $600 USD, at 2 gun points.  They, then, placed me in the trunk of my Camry at what was an obviously pre arranged drop off point.  The green gunman says my Camry has a handle in the trunk that allows me to "escape".  I say something to the effect that I'm not going to fuck the situation up and I'll keep my head low for 5 seeing as how I don't want shot.  Experienced gunman shut the trunk on me and I start fiddling around for some sort of handle in my trunk that'll open it that I didn't know about until Green gunman announced it out loud. It takes me one minute to get out of my trunk and there is/are no one in sight.  Slick.  I crack open a New Belguim Ranger IPA, bought a sixer earlier and had it in the trunk, and walk to the nearest cross street.  Call 911 and tell'm I've been armed robbed and kidnapped.  Gave them my cross street location.  Didn't even finish my beer when PTSD, motherfucker, asshole cop shows up and starts interragating me because I've got a beer and no keys to my car, wants to impound my car and take me to police station.  Other cop (Good Cop wink wink nudge nudge) suggests we drive by my house to see if I've really been robbed.  Cunts.  "Which house is yours?" "The one with all the lights on and all the doors open.  There, see the garage door open?!"  "Oh."  Then the fucking useless assfucks realized I wasn't telling them a story.  The only thing that I can say positive about the cuntwhorepolice officers was that they did not trash the remaining 5 beers, otherwise they were bad police officers.  I would like it both of them die painfully and I mean it.  I lost much of my gear.  They did not take my cabs, however.  Obviously they didn't have room in their crookmobile for 4x12s.  So, they didn't get the Electric 412 loaded with Wizards, ;) Dan.  They got my Tradition LP wif super custom pus, Carvin X-100B with tubes worth as much as the rest of the amp, 3 computers, recording equipment, mics, tv, etc.  I haven't been able to yap about it really until now.  Part of my self imposed thereapy has been the purchase of the 77 LP Custom.  I'm rounding it out with some pedals.  Cops are shitty people.

Dios mio... Glad you came out alive, man.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 25, 2013, 12:12:29 PM
Shit. In what city/town did that all go down? Fuck. I'd be paranoid as hell afterwards.

And much of that reinforces my perception about cops. I got hit by a car walking home from the grocery store in December (I was in the crosswalk when some lady decided to give me a ride on her hood and murder my groceries). It really jacked my knee quite nicely, requiring a daylong visit to the ER. The cop that came to the scene was nothing but a total fuckhole. He couldn't have been more visibly (and vocally) bothered by having to do the paperwork. You see, I had called the station to ask them what to do. They said that they would have to send a car to the scene. Seemed reasonable. But when the patrol car got there, he was livid because apparently there are other ways to handle it that didn't involve him – I didn't know, it was my first time being upended and tossed to the ground like a ragdoll via a 3000 lb horseless carriage. Go figure. So he decided to take it out on me and be a fucking asshole.

The nice part was that he was morbidly obese and had trouble even getting out of the drivers seat of the squad car. He was loudly mouthbreathing/weezing the whole time and had crazy gross and scabby ecszema. Karma is real.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on March 25, 2013, 01:15:48 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on March 25, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Quote from: dogfood on March 24, 2013, 03:17:39 AM
[horror story]
Dios mio... Glad you came out alive, man.

This.  Sounds like you really used your head in order to do so.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 26, 2013, 12:39:35 AM
you could make a movie out of that shit..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on March 26, 2013, 03:59:03 AM
Sorry to hear about what happened to you.

I'm curious though as to why you seemed to have more favorable things to say about the people that robbed you than the cops? That struck me as being really weird
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on March 26, 2013, 10:20:03 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2013, 04:50:50 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on March 21, 2013, 08:02:25 PM
FINALLY have the new split record finished, printed, delivered, for sale.  Turned out visually better than I expected.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/5962_507603822635800_2125455864_n.jpg)

Nice artwork, looks very cool. Who was your manufacturer? Are they CD or CDR?

I feel like an asshole changing the subject on such an interesting and bummer of a story, but so it goes...

Thanks for the kind words.  They are CDs and we had them printed by NationWideDisc.com.  I am really happy with their work.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 26, 2013, 01:40:04 PM
Fuck dogfood! That's so fucking horrible, I too would be traumatised by that, I hope you had insurance, I'll drink my one and only beer to you tonight!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on March 26, 2013, 09:30:08 PM
Wow, yeah I would be pretty traumatized after something like that. Getting robed is bad enough! Fuckin dick cops
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 26, 2013, 09:39:58 PM
SunnO))) gets robed for every show? Can't be that bad...




Sorry, I am not much help. Im trying to add levity? I suck. Ill be quiet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 27, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
I have repetitive strain injury in my hand because of my new tremolo picking song, its been throbbing painfully all day and the other day argh ~.~
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 27, 2013, 06:16:15 PM
I'm in a black metal band. Welcome to that world, sistah. Malmsteen has tendinitis so bad that he used to have to soak his hands in cold water, then dunk them in hot water between every song. You gotta work different muscle groups for speed picking, I alternate between elbow, wrist and fingers. elbow gets tired the fastest, wrist is the fastest speedwise, and fingers can go for longer because of small muscle groups.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 27, 2013, 06:26:12 PM
Yeah totally didnt see it coming, I can feel the exact point on the bony bit at the base of my thumb that meets my wrist its hot and everything, I see im really gonna have to start practising different techniques...

QuoteMalmsteen has tendinitis so bad that he used to have to soak his hands in cold water, then dunk them in hot water between every song.

That sounds really painful, good on him for carrying on, wow :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 27, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
Thicker picks will be your friend if there's a lot of trem picking in your future. promise.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on March 27, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
Is it fun to play? This black metal? I would hope that it is. Playing like yngwie doesn't seem fun. There should be rewards if you're fucking up your hands.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 27, 2013, 07:12:12 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on March 27, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
Is it fun to play? This black metal? I would hope that it is. Playing like yngwie doesn't seem fun. There should be rewards if you're fucking up your hands.

It really is, I joined the band on the 10th, and played a show with them on the 20th. I've been playing metal for my entire guitar playing career, but never in a legit metal band. Always punk, hardcore or doom. It's a lot of fun. I get to break out all of the crazy sweep picking and trem wankery I want... I love it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 27, 2013, 08:13:16 PM
turns out theres more than one kind of wankery that kills your wrists eh,...

Iv been using a soft plec but a few months ago I got an Obituary plec from Trevor at a live show and was surprised at how thick it was, iv been meaning to get thicker plecs since, and according to the youtubes im definetly doing it wrong....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justinhedrick on March 27, 2013, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 27, 2013, 07:12:12 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on March 27, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
Is it fun to play? This black metal? I would hope that it is. Playing like yngwie doesn't seem fun. There should be rewards if you're fucking up your hands.

It really is, I joined the band on the 10th, and played a show with them on the 20th. I've been playing metal for my entire guitar playing career, but never in a legit metal band. Always punk, hardcore or doom. It's a lot of fun. I get to break out all of the crazy sweep picking and trem wankery I want... I love it.

how was the show, jake?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 28, 2013, 01:13:55 AM
Quote from: justinhedrick on March 27, 2013, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 27, 2013, 07:12:12 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on March 27, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
Is it fun to play? This black metal? I would hope that it is. Playing like yngwie doesn't seem fun. There should be rewards if you're fucking up your hands.

It really is, I joined the band on the 10th, and played a show with them on the 20th. I've been playing metal for my entire guitar playing career, but never in a legit metal band. Always punk, hardcore or doom. It's a lot of fun. I get to break out all of the crazy sweep picking and trem wankery I want... I love it.

how was the show, jake?

Rough but fun!
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justinhedrick on March 28, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 28, 2013, 01:13:55 AM
Quote from: justinhedrick on March 27, 2013, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 27, 2013, 07:12:12 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on March 27, 2013, 06:47:02 PM
Is it fun to play? This black metal? I would hope that it is. Playing like yngwie doesn't seem fun. There should be rewards if you're fucking up your hands.

It really is, I joined the band on the 10th, and played a show with them on the 20th. I've been playing metal for my entire guitar playing career, but never in a legit metal band. Always punk, hardcore or doom. It's a lot of fun. I get to break out all of the crazy sweep picking and trem wankery I want... I love it.

how was the show, jake?

awesome. you guys have any music with you playing on it?

Rough but fun!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 11:31:47 AM
Going a little nuts here.  My girl and I just shacked up and all my gear is packed up for the time being.  Her brother and his wife will be here one more month and then it will be just us.  This whole thing tries my patience greatly but it's good for me.  But back to my point.  My gear has been packed up for the last 2 months.  I NEED to play my drums.  I have an amp rig up in the bedroom but I feel like I'm imposing if I turn that shit on if anybody else is home cuz you know how tube amps are.  The louder the better.  I can't wait to crank up the Marshall or the Orange. 

But I GOTTA at least find a corner where I can set up a snare, high hat, and kick to kinda keep in practice

So all my shit actually fits in a 10x12 room which surprises me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justinhedrick on March 28, 2013, 12:23:49 PM
Quote from: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 11:31:47 AM
Going a little nuts here.  My girl and I just shacked up and all my gear is packed up for the time being.  Her brother and his wife will be here one more month and then it will be just us.  This whole thing tries my patience greatly but it's good for me.  But back to my point.  My gear has been packed up for the last 2 months.  I NEED to play my drums.  I have an amp rig up in the bedroom but I feel like I'm imposing if I turn that shit on if anybody else is home cuz you know how tube amps are.  The louder the better.  I can't wait to crank up the Marshall or the Orange. 

But I GOTTA at least find a corner where I can set up a snare, high hat, and kick to kinda keep in practice

So all my shit actually fits in a 10x12 room which surprises me.

you HAVE to make time/space for yourself. if not, you will go crazy. please see "The Shining" for proof of this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
I've resorted to watching youtube videos of myself playing drums to remind myself that I can actually kinda play the drums :D.  derp
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 28, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Quoteyou HAVE to make time/space for yourself. if not, you will go crazy. please see "The Shining" for proof of this.

This is so true!

Aren't there some practise rooms nearby? You could drive your stuff down for a day/night?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Worthless Willie on March 28, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
"I'm curious though as to why you seemed to have more favorable things to say about the people that robbed you than the cops? That struck me as being really weird"

Probably because the criminals were actually good at their jobs.  ??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 28, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
^^^
BAM!

;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 03:17:44 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on March 28, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Quoteyou HAVE to make time/space for yourself. if not, you will go crazy. please see "The Shining" for proof of this.

This is so true!

Aren't there some practise rooms nearby? You could drive your stuff down for a day/night?

My friend actually owns a local rehearsal space building but I ain't payin' him for it.  I just have to wait a bit more or I can set up a jam with somebody at their place.  Just getting antsy is all.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 03:21:16 PM
Quote from: Worthless Willie on March 28, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
"I'm curious though as to why you seemed to have more favorable things to say about the people that robbed you than the cops? That struck me as being really weird"

Probably because the criminals were actually good at their jobs.  ??

sounds like those dudes had their shit down.  From the way it sounds they prolly rob dope growers too.

And also, there were 6-8 dudes?  They must have done several jobs that night cuz from what you said they took that doesn't seem like much divided that many ways.  Especially if you're risking getting shot.  Cuz if I had a gun nearby and saw somebody coming at me in my garage.  You better believe I'd be firing at 'em.

Good thing you're ok for the most part.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on March 28, 2013, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
I've resorted to watching youtube videos of myself playing drums to remind myself that I can actually kinda play the drums :D.  derp

cant you rent a studio for an hour with a kit? they do have those here dont they? sorry Rager, I can never remember exactly where you live but I  think its in the PNW?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
Yes I could but I ain't gonna.  I'm actually making more out of it than it is just for blog's sake.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Drama on March 28, 2013, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on March 27, 2013, 08:13:16 PM
turns out theres more than one kind of wankery that kills your wrists eh,...

Iv been using a soft plec but a few months ago I got an Obituary plec from Trevor at a live show and was surprised at how thick it was, iv been meaning to get thicker plecs since, and according to the youtubes im definetly doing it wrong....

Until recently I used 3.5mm V-Picks. Also have a couple of their 9mm and 12mm picks, which I dig for certain effects.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13108344/dd.JPG)

Pretty hooked on the John Petrucci Jazz III's now. Just slightly bigger than regular Jazz III's which makes em just about perfect for me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on March 28, 2013, 06:31:41 PM
I use Dunlop 2.0 Gator Grip picks. I'm not fast enough to really require a pick like that, but that's a smooth player.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on March 28, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on March 27, 2013, 06:26:12 PM
Yeah totally didnt see it coming, I can feel the exact point on the bony bit at the base of my thumb that meets my wrist its hot and everything, I see im really gonna have to start practising different techniques...

QuoteMalmsteen has tendinitis so bad that he used to have to soak his hands in cold water, then dunk them in hot water between every song.

That sounds really painful, good on him for carrying on, wow :o

ive never heard it called tremolo picking in that context before.

Ive ever heard it called trem picking in reference to a mandolin.

we used to call that "circle picking".

learn somehting new almost every day...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on March 29, 2013, 04:27:33 AM
We were supposed to have rehearsal this morning but our drummer bailed, again. This blows.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 29, 2013, 05:45:28 AM
Go down anyway zodiac, I don't let no show-ers change what I'm doin I'll still be blastin it, it's a good exercise for tightening up too having part of the band missing...

I know how you feel Rager, every time we can't have a practise for a week or two I really start to fret, excuse the pun totally unintended :*

Sunn can we hear some black metal?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on March 29, 2013, 08:25:53 AM
That was my plan as well, there just wouldn't be anybody there to let me in (we rehearse at his house).

I guess this also fits here, I went to a local DIY hardcore gig last night put up by some friends of mine. A band from Spain called Orden Mundial (http://ordenmundial.bandcamp.com/ (http://ordenmundial.bandcamp.com/)) were headlining and were playing their hearts out. They were more than a 1000k away from their home, were playing a show for 40 people and just went for it. They even sold their shirts for 6 euros, a punkprice. I like the energy from this kind of performances, it reminds me to get going.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on March 29, 2013, 08:29:30 AM
Orden Mundial are fucking great, mates were playing with them over in England last weekend and turned me on to them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on March 29, 2013, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on March 27, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
I have repetitive strain injury in my hand because of my new tremolo picking song, its been throbbing painfully all day and the other day argh ~.~

For playing tremolo picked stuff I have found it best (for me, ymmv) to use my wrist and make sure to keep your muscles relaxed. Spend time just tremolo picking whatever notes (the left hand isn't important for this exercise) and FOCUS (trademark MJS) on keeping your entire right arm and hand relaxed.

Also SunnJake is correct with the thicker pick advice. I use Dunlop Jazz III's for everything. Guitar, bass and mandolin.

Edited because I have fat fuck fingers and can't type.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 29, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
Looked at a practice space yesterday, the Craigs List ad said the room was 20x15 (300 square feet). When we got there, the room was 16x12 (almost 200 square feet). According to my maths, that's 33% smaller than advertised. The guy with the bad ad is the leaseholder (trying to get out of his lease I guess) not the facility. He said he "estimated" the size. Fucking duh, if you have feet on the end of your legs you can measure something by walking it off heel-to-toe and counting. I thought everybody knew that. I didn't "WTF" because the poor bastard had the worst stammer of anyone I've ever met. I figure he's got enough on his plate already. But I should have told him about counting it off.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 29, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
Should have asked him for a 33% discount.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on March 29, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
Maybe his feets are only eight inches long? That'd make anyone stutter  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 29, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
Thanks for the advice Brian :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on March 29, 2013, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 29, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
Looked at a practice space yesterday, the Craigs List ad said the room was 20x15 (300 square feet). When we got there, the room was 16x12 (almost 200 square feet). According to my maths, that's 33% smaller than advertised. The guy with the bad ad is the leaseholder (trying to get out of his lease I guess) not the facility. He said he "estimated" the size. Fucking duh, if you have feet on the end of your legs you can measure something by walking it off heel-to-toe and counting. I thought everybody knew that. I didn't "WTF" because the poor bastard had the worst stammer of anyone I've ever met. I figure he's got enough on his plate already. But I should have told him about counting it off.

my experience with landlord/rentals is if you get ANY kind of idea that guy is an asshole/flake or if anything seems sketchy bout the deal..bnail immediately. hope you didnt rent the room?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 29, 2013, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on March 29, 2013, 03:52:24 PM
my experience with landlord/rentals is if you get ANY kind of idea that guy is an asshole/flake or if anything seems sketchy bout the deal..bnail immediately. hope you didnt rent the room?

No, we didn't take it, too small/too expensive. We'd need 3 or 4 bands to afford the rent, and the room fits 2 or 3.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 29, 2013, 08:44:22 PM
this has my band and lumpys band on it..and 53 other bands. OUT NOW!!
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 06, 2013, 12:28:15 PM
Finally set up my drums yesterday.  Damn what a treat to finally play some drums.  A daunting task though.  had to move everything around about 5 times because of confined spaces due to housemates crap in the way.  They're moving out on the 1st praise be.  Gonna work on getting all the rest of the shit set up and arranged.  ie; PA wired up, amps and cabs, wired up and fired up.

Also talked to a younger dude yesterday about possibly jammin'.  Not too sure aboot it though since he mentioned Tool and Rage.  Also met up with a buddy and a keyboard player he's been taking theory lessons from aboot a possible jazz trio.  This keyboard player is a monster player.  The kind of player that can play anything in any key.  super pro.  I'm intimidated but that kind of thing puts you on your game and I think I can fake it. ;)


Ps.  I just might fire up the Marshall today too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 07, 2013, 07:48:18 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/522119_627907000557469_135048241_n.jpg)

we are the kings of obsolete media..got a release out soon on this label..
http://snuffdisk.blogspot.com/?zx=b11cc9403c2bf69e (http://snuffdisk.blogspot.com/?zx=b11cc9403c2bf69e)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 08, 2013, 05:46:43 PM
Quote from: bbottom on March 26, 2013, 03:59:03 AM
Sorry to hear about what happened to you.

I'm curious though as to why you seemed to have more favorable things to say about the people that robbed you than the cops? That struck me as being really weird

Answer:  I played my part and they played their part.  I think they figure home owners insurance into the equation.  They were not interested in being dicks, just getting my possesions.  Cops on the other hand are psychotherapy disasters.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 08, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: RAGER on March 28, 2013, 03:21:16 PM
Quote from: Worthless Willie on March 28, 2013, 02:36:14 PM
"I'm curious though as to why you seemed to have more favorable things to say about the people that robbed you than the cops? That struck me as being really weird"

Probably because the criminals were actually good at their jobs.  ??

sounds like those dudes had their shit down.  From the way it sounds they prolly rob dope growers too.

And also, there were 6-8 dudes?  They must have done several jobs that night cuz from what you said they took that doesn't seem like much divided that many ways.  Especially if you're risking getting shot.  Cuz if I had a gun nearby and saw somebody coming at me in my garage.  You better believe I'd be firing at 'em.

Good thing you're ok for the most part.

Yeah, I think they were working all night.  I believe they were following people randomly or from local businesses.  I heard some people got hit who were refueling at a crappy gas station close by.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 08, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
I'm building a brick wall + motorized gate + wood fence around the casa for security sake.  Dallas Texas allows barbed wire on any fence over 6' that if the barbed wire does not protrude!   ;D  I might add some of that to the salad.  I have the foundation dug and most of the rebar in place for the brick wall.  This weekend I'll be finishing all that and forming.  As soon as possible I'll have a truck bring me 8 yards of concrete!  Then get some masons to build me a wall.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/natesecaur123/IMG_0762_zpsecd61d27.jpg)

See Luke dig.

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/natesecaur123/IMG_0564_zpsee7e2b7c.jpg)

Color of brick for castle walls

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/natesecaur123/13cbc43d-4146-4097-ac73-d9e5176d9af7_zpsc0f2311a.jpg)

Literature for my house original
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 14, 2013, 05:01:37 PM
actually, that totally sucks that a person is forced to build fort knox around their house. key word being "forced".

it's funny how the money goes, even when there was a basic plan in place.  My music room rebuild project has sort of followed the plan.  timeframe is shot to hell, but oh well, we will get there. I am applying all my play money as I get it. new turntable will have to wait until next fall since I bought too much music crap.
I have all the ambient lighting, still finalizing main white room lighting. im tending towards LED's, but still kicking it around.
So close, just in time for the yard to take over my attention.

the 3 guitars from best buy clearance wasn't exactly random. I was building up to grab the hagstrom ultra swede and I have been watching for a starter tele for a while already. the mid range schecters are nice, but a metal guitar wasn't real high on the list.  I already have those nasty little Ibanez that can be heavily processed for that. they are extremely fast dirt cheap guitars. just sound like ass.

I just don't want to haul the LP out anymore. The ultra swede is a dream to handle too. little fucker. perfect. and for just 1 guitar, it makes the most different sounds, so I only need one guitar out with me.

my son and I already have 2 string thru schecters. we don't have a nice shred machine between us.  I play some country folksy stuff and the LP isn't right for that. or surf type sounding music.
so I filled some serious holes with those 3 guitars. all 3 of which sound so much different from each other, and do different from each other.

The swede was the main target, BUT, when I saw the sales dude was loose as hell with pricing just to get the shit out of there, I talked to him a bit. He was bummed at the dept closing and was willing to throw anything to anyone  rather than the guitar center's guys uber lowball them on their stock at some point in the near future.
I sort of ran to the wall and I grabbed my 3 old friends and took a chance. heh i should have tried $900 out the door, but $1000 sounds way more huger pizza than wimpy 900 heh.

I make a joke that all I came in for was more of those cheap guitar cables that were now cheaper than when I got a pair last time but they were immediately all gone, and he is running upgrading me for same price(free heh) he comes up with 2 gig bags..here just take these for those guitars.
just a right place at the right time situation, and where I am at playing skillwise, $333 dollar guitars is about where I belong
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 14, 2013, 11:03:52 PM
Don't explain it to us Jibby, we are not your wife.  I COMPLETELY understand picking up the Swede, the Tele, and as icing on the cake, the Schecter for 1K.  Easy descision.  Three entirely different guitars for the price of one LP Studio.  Dude you are going to be in fiddle heaven for a year.  But don't whine and sell when you don't have enough time to play all three.  You are only allowed to sell them when you decide to upgrade.   ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 15, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
heh, ya you're probably right. sometimes I feel that people think i'm mostly gone so sometimes I feel the need to explain why I just busted that particular move.

I have no plans on getting rid of any of the guitars at this point. maybe a deal breaker will crop up as I get used to them, but I've played them all a few times. no guitars ever sold out of best buy.
I forgot the whammy bar for the schecter in my excitement too. oh well, maybe the Ibanez ones will fit. the locking tuner deal was familiar due to the Ibanez's, so maybe I luck out..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on April 17, 2013, 09:37:25 AM
Damn that's a good story jibbs haha ;D

I went through my phone voice memos today for all my woo'd, whistled n hummed riffs that come to me when I'm half asleep in bed and stuff, and re-recorded them all with my guitar and deleted the old memos, got over 20 riffs id forgotten on there I'm psyched, was also slightly worried that I'd accidentally play said memos of humming and wooing of doom riffs to workmates or something cos it'd make me look crazy,...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on April 17, 2013, 02:36:06 PM
You need to set up some traps in the vein of straw-dogs, dogfood.

Been piecing together riffs to make songs. So far I would say 80% of the stuff I recorded are throwaways or obvious, not intentionals, rip offs of other songs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 20, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
Since I don't actually blog or play with social media, this is the only place I have a chance to report the 15" poopie I birthed yesterday. Sorry, no pics.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 20, 2013, 04:05:09 PM
when I break a low e string, it is an event requiring pomp and circumcision,  and rituals even.

I chant the mantra " we bad, we bad uh huh we bad"  then I throw a huge triple-scoop action claw
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on April 20, 2013, 11:51:09 PM
Quote from: Jake on April 20, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
Since I don't actually blog or play with social media, this is the only place I have a chance to report the 15" poopie I birthed yesterday. Sorry, no pics.

Uh, the Obelisk, "mini-chat" awaits.   ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on April 20, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Quote from: Jake on April 20, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
Since I don't actually blog or play with social media, this is the only place I have a chance to report the 15" poopie I birthed yesterday. Sorry, no pics.

Damn, I bet you felt a lot better after that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 21, 2013, 12:25:34 AM
Do real people actually visit the Obelisk?  That place was a morgue everytime I visited.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on April 21, 2013, 08:53:55 AM
It's pretty dead; they're less tolerant of shenanigans, douchery and e-humor than we are (I'm not taking a moral stand one way or the other, mind you...) but they do talk about music a bit more (speaking o' General Diss-cuss-shun on both, their Jam Room is a ghost town, ours is pretty good, etc)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 21, 2013, 09:02:09 AM
First studio sesh with my new band today- we're helping a friend complete her audio engineering class project.  Should be a good dry run for our Rancho de la Luna trip this summer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 21, 2013, 09:08:44 AM
Good luck diddler.

Looks like my newest project has lost both wings, run outta fuel, crashed & burned before the lineup even solidified.

A lotta potential there, but the past 4 months have been an exercise in frustration, so good riddance.





"Crawlin' from the wreckage, crawlin' from the wreckage, into a brand new car..."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 21, 2013, 10:23:47 AM
Bummer racer, but no doubt you'll get something going soon
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on April 21, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
Heading out to play my drums again today. Man, I get so depressed when I don't have anything going on project- wise. Playing by myself just feels like an exercise in futility, or an acknowledgment of failure. Gotta keep those chops up though, right? :(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 21, 2013, 03:58:02 PM
Her racer. Thought you were just doing the lone bluesman thing.


Not sure this jazz trio thing is gonna happen for me do contacted another killer bass player I know to do some jammin to feel shit oot. Don't think he'd be into doing the stuff I wann do on guitar but he'll be a blast to play drums with
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 22, 2013, 07:01:54 AM
disco, srsly, do you want to work on some long distance projects?  and maybe not even involving me if the common vector isn't there.   at least you can be moving forward while searching for local people.

the previous 3 posters=whole band, ijs
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 22, 2013, 12:48:09 PM
I guess I'm kinda back to square one, but I have two killer songs I wrote for the previous project, so not really.


Fuck that shit, anyway. I have a renewed sense of purpose.

I've been waffling on the solo act idea, but that's where it looks like I'm headed. I don't even have to show up for practice because I'm already there. Let the woodshedding (re)commence.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on April 22, 2013, 02:47:21 PM
Quote from: jibberish on April 22, 2013, 07:01:54 AM
disco, srsly, do you want to work on some long distance projects?  and maybe not even involving me if the common vector isn't there.   at least you can be moving forward while searching for local people.

the previous 3 posters=whole band, ijs

I like the idea of that, I'm just unsure of the execution. I don't have drum mics, Pro Tools, or an actual computer of my own (I use an old desktop at work and my fairly crappy phone everywhere else). I've never done anything long distance, so if you have and have an idea of how that works, fill me in. I've said it before and it holds true - there are a good number of people here I'd like to do that kind of thing with, yourself included.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 23, 2013, 08:36:32 AM
ok, so you need a couple pieces of gear. either a laptop audio input setup or a standalone like HD recorder with USB file upload capability. and either way, 1 or 2 mics.  and  mic cables. you can fake stands.

besides, I read about a problem with rigid mic stands anyway: they pick up energy and ring at their resonant freq or otherwise transfer noise right into the solidly attached mic. 

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I have a story to tell:

I will be seeing my sister for Russian easter family get-together in a couple weeks. [our family is from there way back, old tradition, nice to have it split from commercial easter, so we just kept it going as an extra holiday]

much of our family basically is involved in our family business heh.  including my mom, who passed away last august.
my sister and I have not addressed the issue of sorting mom's stuff, which will start when we all are together with the equipment etc ( manufacturing eqpt, not the heirloom tea set sort of stuff)
my mom had computers everywhere. she just liked buying shit heh.  my plan is to see if there isn't a decent laptop laying around. all this stuff is a couple years old, but win vista/7/8 or anything past xp can run the most recent internet explorer convention and has plenty of horsepower for audio. so in a couple weeks, MAYBE I will have a laptop for you.

how close are you to B&H video? I am clueless of nyc layout. just answer the question, i'm brewing a nefarious plot lol

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I tenderized my still recovering separated shoulder a bit from hand sawing. these damn injuries take waaaay toooo long to get right. BUT, I was taking one for the team. I found the ideal crosspiece for my cord and cable hanger: the top of an old dead ash tree that had been standing in the neighbor's back yard for years. the thing finally fell over and I cleaned it up since I was back there last week, cleaning up in general at the edge of my yard. anyway...the top is well weather beaten and dried = lightweight but very stout. so I had the handsaw and just zinged off a 4' piece without thinking that my arm is extra weak from all that injured non use time...I was reminded.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on April 23, 2013, 10:30:45 AM
Oooh I'd like to see your ash tree hanger :) I love using free stuff from nature...

The other day I was moving a few cabs from my flat down to the car, and my neighbour was talking to me every time I went past about re-decorating her house, in the end she told me about this old saying...."there is nothing more greedy than a house", and I thought what a fitting saying that'd be for a band too...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 23, 2013, 10:52:46 AM
yes, like the expression "money pit"  I have a "gear pit" too. too many pits, not enough filler.

...just taking a break from hauling a small mountain of scrap steel to the street for the scrappers: old dryer cut up , cans, PC cases, old car parts etc etc.  have to sit a minute after that wrestling match.

While I was outside, I pondered the hanger pegs for the cord rack.    dead cedar branches are sheer hell to cut with loppers, SO, I will try making my pegs from these dead aged cedar twigs from off the tree as a first go.
if later I find a pile of cables behind the table on the floor, go with the lucite rod cut up.

now here's a question.  with Lucite(clear plastic) pegs , I can put LED's behind, or really all kinds of crap into routed out compartments in the back of the main branch piece, but Lucite is anti-gothic, whereas gnarly cedar twigs stay the course.
decisions decisions...heh

I have to make a photobucket account for stills. we killed our domain last year, so I cant host my own crap at a whim any longer, then I keep forgetting..

edit: this one is a job for the drill press. I need parallel holes drilled into an oddly rounded shape.

edit BWAHAAAHAAA, that fckn steel is gone already. yeah!!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on April 23, 2013, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on April 22, 2013, 02:47:21 PM

I like the idea of that, I'm just unsure of the execution. I don't have drum mics, Pro Tools, or an actual computer of my own (I use an old desktop at work and my fairly crappy phone everywhere else). I've never done anything long distance, so if you have and have an idea of how that works, fill me in. I've said it before and it holds true - there are a good number of people here I'd like to do that kind of thing with, yourself included.


If your drums sound good to you in the room get yourself a Zoom H4n ($270) and put it on a camera tripod either low in front of your kit or over your head behind the kit. Then move it up or down to get more or less mix between cymbals and bass drum etc. Led Zep style recording.

The files get recorded in a format that you can attach to an email and send out. With digital stuff you don't have to worry about tape speed or things getting way out of sync with each other so you can do workflows like guitar player tracks scratch tracks to a click or basic beat, you listen in on an iPod and record a drum track to your recorder and send it back to get reassembled/mixed.

There are lots of home recorders in the Jam Room like myself that would be into trying to put something together.

Here's a video of somebody recording some drums with the Zoom on 'auto' mode with two extra mics plugged directly into the bottom of the unit.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on April 25, 2013, 11:22:51 AM
Fallen - Yeah that's a cool device. I should own one.
Jibberish - Check your PM's.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on April 25, 2013, 11:40:25 AM
finally found a decent bass player for my old band, so that's good. Will be doing shows again in a couple of months. this guy has "naked time" tattooed on his toes, so we found him acceptable. He can also do what needs to be done without being told how to do it. I don't know why decent musicians with a similar mind set are always so hard to find and get along with. So far, so good.

I also got my new project started and it's going really good after two practices. I bought a synth finally, again, and that little fucker is awesome. A minibrute made by arturia. Old school sounds in a new school (meaning totally reliable) package. Highly recomended for anyone looking to make some swirly weird sounds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on April 25, 2013, 11:47:42 AM
Yeah man - I went into a GC and goofed around on a Minibrute for like 45 minutes. Really cool little synth.
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Post by: khoomeizhi on April 25, 2013, 07:03:20 PM
there are lesser (cheaper) zoom recorders that are nearly as awesome. we get good room sound with an h1.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on April 25, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
Ive got an h4n. It rules.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 25, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
I've had the H4 since they first came out. Use it often.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 25, 2013, 10:46:24 PM


This is the H4N, raw. Excuse the trashy drummer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 26, 2013, 03:43:47 AM
From Blackie Pagano's FB feed:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/554610_528608823844265_208012403_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 26, 2013, 06:04:38 AM
nice score eyeprod.

btw, I did play with a roland gaia.  it was cool that I watched a bunch of videos prior. walked right up and started in on the 3 layers like I owned it.

very nice toy. endless tweaks for sure. I only had one real problem with it. it seems like the overall fidelity was low. too many sounds crapped out at the edges and they weren't intentional dirty sounds. but that was only one half hour round.
I still would own one if I got the deal.


Uriah heep had a mini-moog in that old live video comp I linked the other day fwiw.

so after watching more synth demo videos,  this guy might actually have some useful info for you eyeprod
that is a nice piece.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on April 26, 2013, 06:30:33 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on April 25, 2013, 10:46:24 PM


This is the H4N, raw. Excuse the trashy drummer.
Thanks, Jake. That sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on April 26, 2013, 07:29:37 PM
I'm going to start a live music blog about the seattle music scene. I plan on reviewing 5 shows a week. I plan on going to zero shows a week. you do the math.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on April 26, 2013, 08:05:55 PM
thanks, Jib. I'll check that out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 26, 2013, 11:02:45 PM
I want this sooooo effing bad right now. number one on my want list..
(http://www.production-room.com/gfx/music_news/large/moog_sub_phatty.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 27, 2013, 12:02:33 PM
Still putting Ocean of Stars together amid my full schedule, so crawling along. But that is progress, even tho not nearly as fast as I would like it \m/,

Meeting for coffee with a B3 player early next week. Just, wow. This could be pretty damn awesome.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 27, 2013, 02:00:55 PM
Danny, where you been man?  You must be busy these days.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 27, 2013, 03:14:26 PM
Busy as hell yes, still lurking round these parts when I can \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on April 27, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
I was interested in the sub phatty, but the minibrute easily won me over at half the price. That and I don't like presets nor any banks on my analog gear. It's wrong.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on April 27, 2013, 08:52:44 PM
I can do without presets, but memory banks are super-handy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on April 27, 2013, 11:56:13 PM
agreed. I guess i just like analog synths because they're like a mad scientists lab in a box. Getting your mind wrapped around what is happening sonically, learning and experimenting. You press a button to get there and it's easy to lose sight of the finer details.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 28, 2013, 03:21:40 AM
I really do understand GAS. I have it with synths. I just fucking want every last one of them.  But I, at least, have segregated the mono ones from the poly ones in my really want it list.

STILL that brute would be the shit RUNNING OTHER SOUNDS THRU!! holy crap. the demos where they teamed up with a novation station or w/e were great. the brute is like a super uber filter-arpeggio-pedal.

I have a need for a latching sustain pedal, actually 2. I'm thinking of just making a rig with a stompbox switch that parallels across the momentary contact sustain switch. then I could latch or realtime the sustain.  I'm thinking you could get a lot of modules going all at once. lock a couple long ass pad sweeps in while you sustain manually like whole note bass notes, then play 2 more keyboards normally. I think you could stack up a mountain of layers live.
it could make for good backing to a guitar/vocal piece too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 28, 2013, 03:51:07 AM
I have been listening to the B3 bnds so much. I cant get enough of deep purple, Uriah heep, etc recently.
listen closely to the early Santana albums. he has a seriously good keyboard player along.
B3 interest may make you pay more attention to keith emerson, a true freak.

and mellotrons yummy. even skynyrd uses mellotron in a song...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 28, 2013, 05:50:11 AM
B3 is thee shit.

With a B3 player I wouldn't need a 2nd guitar player...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on April 28, 2013, 06:49:07 AM
There's a 77 Fender Jazz in the local guitar shop. Damn.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 28, 2013, 07:24:47 AM
if your guy can play "lazy" sign him on the spot haha. 

plus, he can put other synths on top. b3's have a lot of room on top, UNLESS he throws that bitch around a'la emerson.
little things, like a touch of strings, or a single well timed bell tree shimmer etc can all be added via a synth vs having the actual stuff to make the noises.
..and samples, and run your guitar through the mini brute your new b3 dude will also happen to have.. lol

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btw, I love my tele. that little neck is so fast and ez2 work. I just have one problem that really has to be solved. the tailpiece has threaded rods for each string and wow do those tear the heel of my hand up.  I was thinking, I never dealt with this before.  my 2 LP style have that big smooth tailpiece and my Ibanez's had the tuners for the locking whammy deal which are smooth and ez2 rest your hand on. the swede came with a nice cover over the tailpiece. I dig that a lot.
string thru schecters have nothing behind the bridge heh.

I wouldnt mind getting that swede cover piece for the tele, but I will shop tele parts first. if I have this problem, so does someone else.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on April 28, 2013, 11:34:46 AM
yeah, no shit jib. That minibrute is like a super duper resonant ultra filtered arpeggiator with tremolo and HOLD! Automatic filter sweeps as you play. I used to own an eh microsynth which was similar, but wow this thing just keeps on ruling. I'm running bass through it today. And must try vocals.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on April 28, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: jibberish on April 28, 2013, 07:24:47 AM
if your guy can play "lazy" sign him on the spot haha. 

plus, he can put other synths on top. b3's have a lot of room on top, UNLESS he throws that bitch around a'la emerson.
little things, like a touch of strings, or a single well timed bell tree shimmer etc can all be added via a synth vs having the actual stuff to make the noises.
..and samples, and run your guitar through the mini brute your new b3 dude will also happen to have.. lol

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btw, I love my tele. that little neck is so fast and ez2 work. I just have one problem that really has to be solved. the tailpiece has threaded rods for each string and wow do those tear the heel of my hand up.  I was thinking, I never dealt with this before.  my 2 LP style have that big smooth tailpiece and my Ibanez's had the tuners for the locking whammy deal which are smooth and ez2 rest your hand on. the swede came with a nice cover over the tailpiece. I dig that a lot.
string thru schecters have nothing behind the bridge heh.

I wouldnt mind getting that swede cover piece for the tele, but I will shop tele parts first. if I have this problem, so does someone else.

Ashtray pup cover for your tele?

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4982/pict0114ij2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 28, 2013, 03:28:45 PM
You can find shorter saddle screws that will fit your Tele online and even sometimes in those specialty fastener drawers at Home Depot. I had the same problem recently.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 29, 2013, 07:39:50 AM
Quote from: moose23 on April 28, 2013, 03:12:03 PM

Ashtray pup cover for your tele?

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4982/pict0114ij2.jpg)


yes please.

that is really sharp looking, but in a smooth, my hand will dig it but it wont dig my hand, sharp way.

I will look around in home depot. I live in there anyway.   hey, the marine aquarium guys just call it HD since everyone is getting PVC plumbing and sealers and epoxy and and and from there for that hobby all the time.

edit: for more fasteners than you ever saw or thought you'd see in your life check out this super supply place called Grainger, and another super supply place called McMaster Carr. these places sell everything for a commercial operation, so after picking out some obscure screws, you can grab a haz mat suit, a thermometer, 5ton cap. tool and die rack and a gas can
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Zero on April 29, 2013, 02:29:41 PM
Mixing for the new Low Gravity split is done. Mastering and all that soon.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 30, 2013, 09:30:35 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on April 27, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
I was interested in the sub phatty, but the minibrute easily won me over at half the price. That and I don't like presets nor any banks on my analog gear. It's wrong.
do you like your minibrute?? if its good id go that route myself for the price diff..you save about $500..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 04, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
I think my Epi is probably a lost cause. Either the action is too high or I get too much fret buzz and weak sustain. I don't want to sink any more money into it on setups.

Are those $300 Schecter Omens any good? Gotta be light too, a nerve in my shoulder hates heavy guitars even with a wide padded strap.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 05, 2013, 12:42:44 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 04, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
I think my Epi is probably a lost cause. Either the action is too high or I get too much fret buzz and weak sustain. I don't want to sink any more money into it on setups.

Are those $300 Schecter Omens any good? Gotta be light too, a nerve in my shoulder hates heavy guitars even with a wide padded strap.

I think the low end string thru schecters are really nice. plain jane ones.
the omen c-1 I have has about the same heft as the hagstrom ultra swede, not the heavy weight of the Damien elite model or a LP. those two guitars weigh a ton. came with Duncan design humbuckers. they are decent vs the low end ibanez pups which really do suck.

edit: did I just let the swede slide off my lap dicking around with 3 guitars? did I just ding the corner of the headstock when it hit the floor?
fuck me. yes I did.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on May 05, 2013, 10:44:47 AM
Sundays lately have been practice day for both of my bands.   So- start out at noon, take a 1 hr ferry to Seattle, set-up and drink beer while we wait for drummer, play from 2 - 5ish, pack up gear and drive 45 minutes to Tacoma, meet band dudes at bar, eat/drink, go to practice space set up and drink beer while we wait for drummer, play from 7 - 10ish, drive 45 minutes home to Bremerton.  Mondays are typically deaf and sore.  Should be interesting when I go back to work soon
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 05, 2013, 03:42:17 PM
Going up to Cleveland to visit the special lady friend this upcoming weekend.  I fly in on May 9 and just who should be playing the Grog Shop???? Why, Boris and Young Widows!  That's what I call a proper welcome to any place you visit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 05, 2013, 07:16:40 PM
Imma have to listen to some Breather Resist now.
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Post by: xayk on May 05, 2013, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: dogfood on May 05, 2013, 03:42:17 PM
Going up to Cleveland to visit the special lady friend this upcoming weekend.  I fly in on May 9 and just who should be playing the Grog Shop???? Why, Boris and Young Widows!  That's what I call a proper welcome to any place you visit.

Sweet. I was considering driving out for that show. I also tried to convince the little lady to drive out to Chicago Saturday to see them do Flood, but she was... resistant. I'm annoyed, but since I'll be at MDF in two weeks I can't really complain. Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 06, 2013, 12:27:44 AM
They are performing Flood in Chicago?   :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on May 06, 2013, 09:13:31 AM
Quote from: dogfood on May 06, 2013, 12:27:44 AM
They are performing Flood in Chicago?   :o

On Saturday, yeah (Pallbearer is on that show). Friday is is a 'normal', non-album specific show.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 07, 2013, 10:16:04 PM
Every time I have tried to see Boris it just never works out for me. The same thing happened with the Melvins and anything Wino-related for a long time.

I'm trying to decide whether to stick with the color scheme that is already in my Mockingbird or just get both p'ups in creme.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 08, 2013, 09:51:46 AM
Losing my practice space at the end of the month... just don't want to pay 575/month for a 9x11 room. Even splitting the costs multiple ways, it's too much money (and small rooms don't sound that good).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 08, 2013, 11:26:09 AM
Jesus fuck that is steeeep!!  Where is it Manhattan?  Or do they just figure it's feasible because it's usually split 3 or four ways?

My buddy who owns a pawn shop and a rehearsal space and I think his is expensive but it's fucking tits though.  Check it out.

http://reverbrehearsal.com/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on May 08, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
That's what I thought as well. So happy we have a space at our drummers house.

Tomorrow another rehearsal. Things are finally picking up the way it should be. Plans are being made for the first couple of shows and a demo recording. We're all extremely excited. Hell, the way we've been going at it, it might even not suck. Imagine that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 08, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
Brooklyn practice space. Seems like 5 dollars per sq. foot is considered normal (?) but I think that's higher than retail prices (price per sq. ft to rent a store). Yes, you're supposed to share a space like that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 08, 2013, 08:30:18 PM
That's such a bummer. It's been fun, Lumpy. :( I sure wish this shit could be easier.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 08, 2013, 10:08:05 PM
I thought I was bad.

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Post by: jibberish on May 09, 2013, 06:36:18 AM
^I think he played JUST like slash, check out slash solo at w/e 3min mark




did I just totally lie? yes. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 09, 2013, 10:30:22 AM
Mein gott that is terrible.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2013, 01:04:05 PM
Played our first show at a venue with a raised stage and sound guy. I think we killed it... for 5 people. Funny thing is that our past shows were for much larger crowds but at small vocals only through the PA play on the floor places. edit: those shows were on weekends and with bands that also drew folks
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Post by: eyeprod on May 09, 2013, 06:28:17 PM
Quote from: mortlock on April 30, 2013, 09:30:35 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on April 27, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
I was interested in the sub phatty, but the minibrute easily won me over at half the price. That and I don't like presets nor any banks on my analog gear. It's wrong.
do you like your minibrute?? if its good id go that route myself for the price diff..you save about $500..

The minibrute kills. Probably the best synth I've ever owned (prodigy, liberation, micromoog, juno60, esq1, cz101, cz5000, korg poly, and more I can't remember). It just has so much going for it. I let my daughter play with it last night. Showed her a couple of basics and she was making happy teddy bear fairy sounds in no time, and loving it. If a noisemaker is what you seek, look no further.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 09, 2013, 09:13:40 PM
I bought one..stoked on it..i got so much to learn. I love the cut out preset templates..this thing is awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on May 10, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
I need a synth for Hawkwind inspired sweeping blips and tones. Maybe some space noises.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on May 10, 2013, 12:27:06 AM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 10, 2013, 03:45:36 AM
Quote from: mortlock on May 09, 2013, 09:13:40 PM
I bought one..stoked on it..i got so much to learn. I love the cut out preset templates..this thing is awesome.


awww duuude. damn you guys haha. awesome.

the future holds some crazy collaborations, I just know it...

edit: sometimne later. funny stuff occurs once baked. just getting ready to practice a little guitar+singing when it hit me:

"etu mini-brute??"  ...ok, I guess you had to be there, carry on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 10, 2013, 08:50:32 AM
I'm off work today.

Gonna take my resonator and some comestibles down to the Rio Grande, sit on the bank & play for a few hours.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on May 10, 2013, 11:47:21 AM
Sounds like a good time, Alan.

Here's a jam using the minibrute. It does hawkwind style very well indeed

<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F91913573"></iframe>

and another:
<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F91911857"></iframe>
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Post by: jibberish on May 11, 2013, 03:39:31 AM
silver machine reminds me of "doing the time warp" heh.
I hear lots of white noise+resonant filter sweeps.  that beginning thing sounded a lot like the Frankenstein resonant filter thing. my old arp odyssey could do that really well
the spooky reverbed flute is in there too now that I listened better.
thx M&B.
fix your soundcloud link eyeprod.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 11, 2013, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: RacerX on May 10, 2013, 08:50:32 AM
I'm off work today.

Gonna take my resonator and some comestibles down to the Rio Grande, sit on the bank & play for a few hours.

Fuck yeah!!  Tofu river jam band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 11, 2013, 05:36:19 PM
Nah. Good bread, grapes, and some tamari almonds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on May 11, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 11, 2013, 05:36:19 PM
Nah. Good bread, grapes, and some tamari almonds.

I'm assuming some combustibles accompanied your comestibles as well.   ;)

Either way, hope you enjoyed your day off.  Nothing quite like playing outside in nice weather.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 11, 2013, 08:16:09 PM
Kinda.

The fire danger in the bosque is so extreme that I thought it safer to arrive fully stoned.   8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 13, 2013, 07:54:03 AM
why is angel fire NM often the coldest place in the lower 48? elevation? funny how that se corner of California, which resembles hell to me from what I saw from various airplane routes over it, is often the hottest place in the lower 48, and not all that far away. 

can I send you a 3 foot square super Fresnel lense for you to play with out there in the mosque?  pretty sure no one would tell on you if it accidentally burned down. wait ..wha?....ohhh bosque..nevermind...


eyeprod, i'm feeling that second jam.
also, I tried to just go to the dubya dubya soundcloud slash acct name yada.. and there were only 3 songs, none of which were these 2. you have really had to make an unusual construction in the post to link those. what is soundcloud doing?.

"hey new lunch lady, these sloppy joes are actually good. What's yer trick?"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 14, 2013, 01:37:24 AM
I have Epiphone SC-350("Scroll", brown) on the brain and it won't get off. That is the mahogany one. If they are lighter than a paul and don't neck dive too bad I may have to get one from the internet sight unseen.

In brown the coolest looking guitar ever, at least in photos.

(http://www.epiphonelespaulshop.com/images/20120211/doc_images-1105200412013.jpg)

Those pup rings(or whatever they are called) should be black though.
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Post by: eyeprod on May 14, 2013, 02:06:07 AM
Black would look weird. You get used to the off white and it's great.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 14, 2013, 03:09:27 AM
Quote from: eyeprod on May 14, 2013, 02:06:07 AM
Black would look weird. You get used to the off white and it's great.

With black pups of course. Do you have a Scroll?
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Post by: eyeprod on May 14, 2013, 12:04:41 PM
no but I have a guitar similar in color and they juts look better with that cream color than black. IMO
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 14, 2013, 11:16:28 PM
Probably going to pull the trigger on one. Some folks have the strap screw relocated to the scroll so they don't neck dive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 14, 2013, 11:39:37 PM
Well, after four years I am leaving the Eric Tessmer Band.

Been a hell of a ride and the split was about as amicable as it gets. I love Eric and Rob.  Have a big send off show Friday at the Saxon Pub, that'll be a fuckin blast.

My game plan is to pursue my own music in Ocean if Stars and do other projects to pay the bills. Already had offers of a weekend run in June and a three week run in July before I'd even come to my decision over the weekend.

Being more in control of my own calendar will help in making sure I can dedicate a big slice of time to Ocean of Stars.

The universe threw me a weird week which led my heart to finally tell me it was time to move on. Pushing my sailboat into the water and seeing where the wind and tide carry me.


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Post by: eyeprod on May 15, 2013, 01:39:39 AM
cool Danny. Always do what you need to do. Sounds like you had some great times with those guys! Best wishes!

liquidsmoke, get that guitar man, it looks awesome! I just think it looks amazing as it is in the pic you posted.
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Post by: jibberish on May 15, 2013, 03:23:43 AM
the progression of danny g

almost seems like this was the next step for you anyhow, especially with the big efforts you have put forth in creating your own productions.   

non-voting band member->more important band member->run your own band and follow your vector more
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 15, 2013, 04:35:57 AM
Quote from: eyeprod on May 15, 2013, 01:39:39 AM
liquidsmoke, get that guitar man, it looks awesome! I just think it looks amazing as it is in the pic you posted.

That was a random pic. This is the one.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Epiphone-SC-350-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ofwAAMXQ01tRUi9F/$T2eC16JHJG8E9nyfmIPEBRUi9FI)uQ~~60_57.JPG)
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Post by: Pissy on May 15, 2013, 11:40:26 AM
Good luck Danny!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Slow on May 15, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
Always wanted a Scroll. Bad.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 15, 2013, 02:07:40 PM
Here's a good way to make this kind of formal announcement:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=i3mJcWvUGyA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Di3mJcWvUGyA%26feature%3Dyoutu.be


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Post by: Lumpy on May 15, 2013, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: Pissy on May 15, 2013, 11:40:26 AM
Good luck Danny!

+1
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Post by: Danny G on May 15, 2013, 05:18:34 PM
Thanks for the well-wishes. One thing I learned long ago is always follow your heart, even it means risky to downright eccentric career choices.

This year in the Austin Chronicle Music Poll I was voted #5 Bass Player. That was fucking HUGE for me.

2 months later I am leaving the project responsible for that ranking to pursue my guitar playing.

Cause why the fuck not!?!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 16, 2013, 01:15:49 PM
Whoa check this out

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/9/2/8/3/5/7/webimg/670080869_o.jpg)
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Post by: VOLVO))) on May 16, 2013, 01:18:19 PM
Looks like a piece of shit Teisco that Dean would buy
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Post by: VOLVO))) on May 16, 2013, 01:29:34 PM
Playing a show tonight, at a house. Can't decide if I want to use my Jackson Kelly and Dual rec, or my Mockingbird and my Marshall... or a Westone dimension IV and a beta lead...


choices choices...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on May 16, 2013, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 16, 2013, 01:18:19 PM
Looks like a piece of shit Teisco that Dean would buy

Yep.

That flip up mute is sexay!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on May 16, 2013, 02:45:16 PM
House gigs are awesome! What bands it with?

I dropped my guitar and it must have landed pretty hard because the strings made a deep imprint on two of the frets so the strings get caught in them when I bend! I feel really guilty and pee'd off with myself tbh, got the frets shaved down quick at a local shop but found there's still a slight catch so I'll have to get them shaved down more....
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Post by: VOLVO))) on May 16, 2013, 10:03:24 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/17/4y2u6azy.jpg)

Boogie boys
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 16, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
Won me that Epi SC-350 for $400 on ebay! I suspect it will either be the most awesome guitar ever or I'll hate it. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 16, 2013, 11:39:21 PM
So I meet a dude for drinks tonight, to sort of figure out whether or not we're compatible as band mates. Very soon he was slurring, and I just sort of let him rant drunkenly about music until he was too drunk to continue. He ended up having his girlfriend pick him up in a cab, which was odd. He said he wanted to write music where there was zero challenge for an audience to catch on. I smirked. He seemed to have decent taste in music, which is why I didn't end it there and walk out. He also said weird things like "It really makes sense that you like both Black Flag AND The Jesus Lizard"... And I thought "Yeah. Because I'm rad as fuck, dickhead." I didn't bother asking him what that added up to in his mind.


It occurs to me I might not be the easiest person to get along with.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on May 17, 2013, 02:13:29 AM
Haha ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on May 17, 2013, 08:44:06 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 16, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
Won me that Epi SC-350 for $400 on ebay! I suspect it will either be the most awesome guitar ever or I'll hate it. Wish me luck.

Props.  Four hundo's a steal for one of them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 17, 2013, 09:10:54 AM
Quote from: I,Galactus on May 17, 2013, 08:44:06 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 16, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
Won me that Epi SC-350 for $400 on ebay! I suspect it will either be the most awesome guitar ever or I'll hate it. Wish me luck.

Props.  Four hundo's a steal for one of them.

Folks don't like the horn or they want the set neck version. It looks like a piano and a cello had an electric baby for Gandalf to shred on. Actually I'm going to name it Radagast the Brown.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 17, 2013, 09:17:19 AM
I picked up a 4 knob MXR Flanger recently and I have to say, I think I prefer Flanger more just because of the wider variety of tones it offers over my Small Stone.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 17, 2013, 09:39:23 AM
I like flanger, but it's a "colder" effect than a phaser to my ears.

I'd sure like one of these multistage phasers, tho...

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Post by: Danny G on May 17, 2013, 01:47:26 PM

I'm going to name it Radagast the Brown.
[/quote]

Awesome \m/,


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Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 17, 2013, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on May 16, 2013, 11:39:21 PM
So I meet a dude for drinks tonight, to sort of figure out whether or not we're compatible as band mates. Very soon he was slurring, and I just sort of let him rant drunkenly about music until he was too drunk to continue. He ended up having his girlfriend pick him up in a cab, which was odd. He said he wanted to write music where there was zero challenge for an audience to catch on. I smirked. He seemed to have decent taste in music, which is why I didn't end it there and walk out. He also said weird things like "It really makes sense that you like both Black Flag AND The Jesus Lizard"... And I thought "Yeah. Because I'm rad as fuck, dickhead." I didn't bother asking him what that added up to in his mind.


It occurs to me I might not be the easiest person to get along with.

Weird. Doesn't bode well if the dude can't handle his alcohol at the first meeting.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on May 17, 2013, 03:45:24 PM
I am full on fiening for a Peavy Classic 50 Head, Firebird &/or (but really and) Mosrite copy.  And do I need any of them?  Nope.


Sickness is strong right now.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 17, 2013, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 17, 2013, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on May 16, 2013, 11:39:21 PM
So I meet a dude for drinks tonight, to sort of figure out whether or not we're compatible as band mates. Very soon he was slurring, and I just sort of let him rant drunkenly about music until he was too drunk to continue. He ended up having his girlfriend pick him up in a cab, which was odd. He said he wanted to write music where there was zero challenge for an audience to catch on. I smirked. He seemed to have decent taste in music, which is why I didn't end it there and walk out. He also said weird things like "It really makes sense that you like both Black Flag AND The Jesus Lizard"... And I thought "Yeah. Because I'm rad as fuck, dickhead." I didn't bother asking him what that added up to in his mind.


It occurs to me I might not be the easiest person to get along with.

Weird. Doesn't bode well if the dude can't handle his alcohol at the first meeting.

Yeah. He was a little weird. I should really do this with everyone I start a band with - get them drunk, let them talk, find out what they're really up to.

He seemed a little intimidated by being the only one playing a pitched instrument. He asked me if I had any insights into playing as a duo (he's never done it). I told him "If there's no guitar player, you have to fill that slot. You'll end up playing more chords than you normally do. Everybody's going to be looking at you. They can't see me behind my drums. You need to be able to front the band while playing rhythm, bass, and lead guitar. I can give you a mountain to stand on, but you have to do the rest. Are you ready for that?" He said he was, but I could see in his eyes that he wasn't. There was definitely fear there. Also, I think it bothered him that I was nowhere near as drunk as he was after 3 beers and three shots. He was having trouble articulating, and I was just loosening up.

He asked for my number and said he'd record some stuff and send me a link, so I could see if it's something I'd dig. At this point I'd have a hard time saying no to anything that wasn't total garbage.
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Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2013, 05:31:14 PM
Too bad your way the fuck over there and I'm way the fuck over here.  I'm kinda happiest in a two piece.  I know you play some guitar and I play some drums so we could swap but I think I've been playing guitar longer and you're probably a better drummer.  so half our set would be like white stripes and the other half would be like Rush.
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Post by: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 17, 2013, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on May 16, 2013, 11:39:21 PM
So I meet a dude for drinks tonight, to sort of figure out whether or not we're compatible as band mates. Very soon he was slurring, and I just sort of let him rant drunkenly about music until he was too drunk to continue. He ended up having his girlfriend pick him up in a cab, which was odd. He said he wanted to write music where there was zero challenge for an audience to catch on. I smirked. He seemed to have decent taste in music, which is why I didn't end it there and walk out. He also said weird things like "It really makes sense that you like both Black Flag AND The Jesus Lizard"... And I thought "Yeah. Because I'm rad as fuck, dickhead." I didn't bother asking him what that added up to in his mind.


It occurs to me I might not be the easiest person to get along with.

Weird. Doesn't bode well if the dude can't handle his alcohol at the first meeting.

people get nervous when meeting new people and therefor drunk..it can happen.

I guess I need a name for my improv duo. I'd welcome suggestions
already rejected:
Singlecut Beersmiths
Gay Unicorn
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 17, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
How about "Gay Beersmiths" or "Singlecut Unicorns"?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 17, 2013, 06:01:36 PM
I know whether or not I'm compatible musically with someone almost immediately; the dudes I'm with now, we "knew" ten years ago when we first hung at shows and shit, we just didn't get the logistics worked out until a few years later, but yeah, I "know"

   I can't get that connection if I don't have that connection, y' know..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
I like Gay Beersmiths!

I dont think my bandmate is gonna go for anything Gay tho..i was  kinda surprised because gay unicorn is awesome...when i told the wife I wanted ot name it Gay Unicorn she was like "um thats nice dear, I guess" >:(

good things  to be in the name would be:
youth(we're both old) as in Sonic Youth so its ostensibly funny to call us youth
boys(again, we're old) as in The Pep Boys
beer: we are both fans of it
improv: its what we do

so maybe the Gay Beer Boys Improv Duo or something?

fuck, I hate naming bands.

and yeah ,what M and B said...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 17, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
Quote from: RAGER on May 17, 2013, 05:31:14 PM
Too bad your way the fuck over there and I'm way the fuck over here.  I'm kinda happiest in a two piece.  I know you play some guitar and I play some drums so we could swap but I think I've been playing guitar longer and you're probably a better drummer.  so half our set would be like white stripes and the other half would be like Rush.
That really is a shame. So many good people on this board, so many miles between them. Drums are definitely my specialty. As far as playing guitar goes, I'm not as nimble as some, but I can get my point across. Would be a lot of fun to be in a band where I had a chance to switch roles. :)

Quote from: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 05:52:31 PM
people get nervous when meeting new people and therefor drunk..it can happen.

I guess I need a name for my improv duo. I'd welcome suggestions
already rejected:
Singlecut Beersmiths
Gay Unicorn
Yep. I've done that myself. Usually it's with girls, though. I'm a lot more confident about music than I am with girls.

Maybe "Uncut Unicorn"?

"Bris of the Unicorn"?

Quote from: Metal and Beer on May 17, 2013, 06:01:36 PM
I know whether or not I'm compatible musically with someone almost immediately; the dudes I'm with now, we "knew" ten years ago when we first hung at shows and shit, we just didn't get the logistics worked out until a few years later, but yeah, I "know"

   I can't get that connection if I don't have that connection, y' know..

Yeah, man. I'm with you. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 06:40:41 PM
I once agreed to meet a musician I was somewhat in awe of for drinks... I got completely shitfaced I was so nervous and ended up making a fool out of myself.

I really like the word Bris..that could work in this bands name.
Maybe just "Bris"? tho "Unicorn Bris" is good too.
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Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2013, 06:42:46 PM
Uniforeskin
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 06:43:48 PM
 :D

Foreskin is a pretty good band name!

well Bris is out, theres some horrible swedish band with that name already...

time to google "foreskin..the band"  :o

edit: its fuckin taken!! >:(
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Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2013, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on May 17, 2013, 06:42:46 PM
Uni-foreskin
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 06:49:50 PM
that would be someone with ONE foreskin?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2013, 06:52:48 PM
Rumpleforeskin
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2013, 06:53:55 PM
Dimpleforeskin

Pimpleforeskin
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 06:59:31 PM
 we could go black metal : "necrotic foreskin"  >:(
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Post by: RacerX on May 17, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
I think you may be on to something with that one.

Your logo will be in a completely unreadable font, of course...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on May 17, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
I actually really like Singlecut Unicorn

That or steal black's dad's jam:  Screaming Negro Acid Rock
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 17, 2013, 09:19:53 PM
I love "screaming negro acid rock", I really like "Unicorn Bris" also, tho i like Gay Unicorn better..:(

Im running a few of these by my partner...he seems reluctant to go for something provocative or too stupid...but this band is never gona gig i dont think so why the fuck not? who cares?

please keep em coming, some good ones thus far...where are bolt and sludgelord when I need their gay hollywood asses?

how bout "Beyonces Weave"? think we'd get sued? ???
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Post by: jibberish on May 17, 2013, 11:23:05 PM
well, you can't have:

cripplefight
clownshoe ballet
zing twang
Psych Odelik Trance  band

you could have, however:

step and felchit

Cobb Webb and the Spiderz

I C U R 2 E Z

new riders of the amalam
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Post by: RacerX on May 17, 2013, 11:59:34 PM
Drug Magnets

Beer Magnets

Limp Blimp


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 18, 2013, 12:24:15 AM
refrigitator magnent
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 18, 2013, 10:18:57 AM
what do you all think of:


"Wizard Elf Shitstorm"

??? its the name of one of our "songs".


my partner rejected "Screaming negro Acid rock"...i kinda forgot he has a black wife before I suggested it..hope he wasnt bummed, he didnt seem to be at all tho. He didnt go for Unicorn Bris either which I really liked. I hate this part.....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on May 18, 2013, 10:56:11 AM
yeah naming bands sucks because you can't just choose what you like and say, that's the one. People have to agree. sigh. Tho I suppose it's a good thing to have someone else keep your stupid ideas in check
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on May 18, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
Mexican Harelip
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 18, 2013, 12:25:14 PM
how bout just "Shitstorm" then?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 18, 2013, 12:27:32 PM
Methamphibian
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on May 18, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
Gay Unicorn's kinda redundant, no?

how about:
Horsecock Warlocks
Bong-n-Dong
Shitfire Momslot
ASS
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on May 18, 2013, 01:12:39 PM
I like Wizard Elf Shitstorm!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 18, 2013, 04:07:07 PM
Quote from: the diddler on May 18, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
Gay Unicorn's kinda redundant, no?

how about:
Horsecock Warlocks
Bong-n-Dong
Shitfire Momslot
ASS

all excellent choices...ASS needs to be A.S.S. tho, like S.W.A.T.
bong n dong is great for a duo...'Hi Im bong, and my partner dong here is about to get this party started!"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 18, 2013, 06:27:41 PM
A.S.S. is taken

Shitstorm is taken

>:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 18, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
Two amps added to working pile, and one bass is alive. Both amps were described as 'working' on ebay, but there is a different definition of that word there. It might be 'not on fire right now'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 18, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
A Null Rampage

Lite Rally
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 19, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
Scuzzlebutt

Ham Wallet
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 19, 2013, 12:56:51 AM
Hamfist

Almighty Smitelords

Grunders
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on May 19, 2013, 08:52:40 AM
Broseph

Brostyle

Brostylez

Browear
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 19, 2013, 09:13:05 AM
Quote from: The Shocker on May 19, 2013, 08:52:40 AM
Broseph

Brostyle

Brostylez

Browear


(http://troll.me/images/lets-assume/this-is-where-you-get-the-fuck-out.jpg)
(http://i.qkme.me/3p5ehb.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqpdpWElOi79oi8tPE2BfMBo-BWRemWnm9RMGjI7y0SaaS4tKa)
(http://yellowcat413.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/get_the_fuck_out_face.jpg?w=210&h=300)
(http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/m/image/1239/84/1239844947114.jpg)

I will delete every single fucking post you make if you start bringing that bro/lance bullshit into the fucking Jam Room. Test me, and fucking play with me. I will NOT tolerate this bullshit. Call me a nazi if you want, but this fucking cancer will not be creeping in here and running off the people I come here to see. FUCK. NO.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on May 19, 2013, 09:52:35 AM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 19, 2013, 10:15:39 AM
my wife said "wizard elf shitstorm" reminded her of electric wizard, so thats out.

i really like "alzheimers" because it gives us the excuse to suck really bad or not know what we're doin..and because we are old..its funny to me....but apparently its funny to no one else so ... >:(

i should just insist on "gay unicorn" and be done with it.. I hate this crap. >:(

hamfist is good.

moar please?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on May 19, 2013, 10:51:45 AM
People round here pronounce it "Allstimers".
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 19, 2013, 11:28:33 AM
Crapa Diem ?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 19, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
The Original Led Zeppelin

Bean Jacket

MacGuyver

Oyster Pelt

Nguyen Ngoc Loan and the Pop Tops

Curds and Whey
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 19, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
How about a non-joke/silly name? Or is that too douchey for this cynical sarcastic era?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 19, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
Mr. Pissed

Super Diaper

Codeiner
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on May 19, 2013, 12:14:47 PM
Underwater Haircut
Dangerous Girls Doing Dangerous Work
Eschew Le Pew
Lawnmower Barber Shop
Filthy Lacy Throwpillows
Drug Money Robin Hood
Vintage Bisque Dicks
Sloth Loft
Welding Not Wedding
Ravenous Desert Thirst Quencher

bonus unicorn content:
Homophobic Unicorn
Homophilic Unicorn
Unicorn Matterhorn
Candycorn Unicorn

I can do this all day just to stave off boredom. (Sometimes I do.) I used to think I was crazy, but then Eric Andre launched Eric's Band Names, and I feel a little more sane. http://ericsbandnames.com/ (http://ericsbandnames.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on May 19, 2013, 12:41:43 PM
Alzheimers is good; I think Super Diaper could be a contender.

Juggaloaded
PopeCock
Bush Regime
Fingertight
Regal Fecals
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 19, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
I wouldnt mind a non funny name. but they tend to be a bit pretensious or something...I dunno.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on May 19, 2013, 01:30:29 PM
Vajazzle!

Chovie & the D

Hot Pocket
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 19, 2013, 02:23:12 PM
Sax Organ
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 19, 2013, 02:41:51 PM
MOAT

TREM

ROADHEAD

CANDLEWOOD
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on May 19, 2013, 07:52:14 PM
candlewood is a cool sounding name for an earthy psych rock band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 19, 2013, 08:09:12 PM
Paduk, Hollow Redwood, Jojoba, Teak, Sepele, BLOODWOOD...


LOOK UP EXOTIC TIMBERS.

Bubinga.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 19, 2013, 08:27:19 PM
Blue Ribbon Quilt Cult
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 19, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
one time we were shooting emails back and forth trying to name a band and this dude  goes..."you know what? I quit! fuck this!"...In retrospect he lucked out, the band turned out being horrible. :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 19, 2013, 11:01:07 PM
Unicorn is a popular word with the hipster bands... Crystal Unicorns, Unicorn Castles, that kinda thing. I would steer clear.

Funny names seem good on paper, but imagine telling a complete stranger the name of your band... could you do it?

What about a regional name (something associated with the Pac. NW) or a name related to your real life interests (related to fishing lore, etc)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2013, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 19, 2013, 01:16:42 PM
I wouldnt mind a non funny name. but they tend to be a bit pretensious or something...I dunno.

Look at your music collection and you'll notice mostly non funny names. Don't let 2013 and the age of irony/pessimism/sarcasm/it's all been done before/rock and everything else is dead/passion is douchey bs get you down.


Also, yeah, fuck using the word unicorn. Also avoid wolf.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 20, 2013, 07:23:52 AM
Tugboat Captain?

Union Ironworker?

I want to name a punk band "Sick Benefits Package!"
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 20, 2013, 07:28:42 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2013, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 19, 2013, 01:16:42 PMI wouldnt mind a non funny name. but they tend to be a bit pretensious or something...I dunno.

Also, yeah, fuck using the word unicorn. Also avoid wolf.

Use jackalope or dolphin, they are direct substitutes.

BLACK DOLPHIN
BLACK JACKALOPE
JACKALOPE WIZARD
KYUSS

I love one word names, some of the longer band names sound really bad.

WARSNOUT
GUTTER
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
Ironworker sounds heavy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 09:34:15 AM
even "led zeppelin" was meant to be funny.

I didnt realize "unicorn" had become white belt, my bad.... :-[

the band is 2 goofy dudes improvising some pretty crappy music that will probably never be played outside of my garage.
to me, that doesnt suggest and overly serious name..but then again, im horrible at this as youve seen this far so , keep em comin please.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 20, 2013, 09:44:56 AM
I was not able to convince the players in my current project to go with Superdiarrhea, that's open for the taking.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on May 20, 2013, 09:48:55 AM
Space Janitors
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
somthing  with "Lobster" ?
:D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on May 20, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
....and you will know us by the power showers from the chowder towers
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Bandit on May 20, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
Blackonaut
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 02:41:09 PM
Black Lobster ?

Lost Lobster?


we will only play at Red lobsters
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 20, 2013, 02:43:31 PM
Lobsterbreath
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 20, 2013, 02:53:56 PM
I wanna use Ironworker
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 20, 2013, 03:05:29 PM
Iron Lobster.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 20, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
Just updated my CL ad.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/muc/3817647621.html




PS ~ I second Iron Lobster.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on May 20, 2013, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on May 20, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
Just updated my CL ad.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/muc/3817647621.html

Great ad.  Would bite.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 03:09:09 PM
Iron Lobster is a contender! I will run it by my worse half(the drummer)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 20, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Quote from: I,Galactus on May 20, 2013, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on May 20, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
Just updated my CL ad.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/muc/3817647621.html

Great ad.  Would bite.
Thanks! I'm anxiously awaiting my mystery dream date.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 20, 2013, 03:28:20 PM
Electric Shitstorm


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:05:40 PM
drummer said Iron lobster was too  much like Iron Butterfly.

His last name is Mansfield so I wanted to name the band "the mansfield Steamroller"..you knwo klike Manheim steamroller? ...but he didnt go for that

is "Lobster Craw" too racist? ???
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 20, 2013, 04:14:38 PM
Craw is a good name.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 20, 2013, 04:17:07 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:05:40 PM
drummer said Iron lobster was too  much like Iron Butterfly.

His last name is Mansfield so I wanted to name the band "the mansfield Steamroller"..you knwo klike Manheim steamroller? ...but he didnt go for that

is "Lobster Craw" too racist? ???

Too bad your drummer can play but has no sense of humor/proportion.

How about Grumpy Old Lobsters?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:22:35 PM
hes got a good sense of humor...its possible that it's MY sense of humor that sucks  ???

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 20, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Lobster Lung
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
is Robster Craw too a-lacist?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 20, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
Armored Taint

Iron Maidenhead



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 20, 2013, 04:44:12 PM
How about "The Absolutely Inoffensive, Completely Politically Correct Lobsters"?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 20, 2013, 04:44:40 PM
Gang of Whores

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
 :D armored taint  :D :D :D

i aint using that, but thats awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 20, 2013, 04:14:38 PM
Craw is a good name.

they were a decent band from Cleveland OH too
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:52:13 PM
I like Politcally Correct something or other...

the PC somethings?

fuck I hate this crap
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2013, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 20, 2013, 04:05:40 PM
drummer said Iron lobster was too  much like Iron Butterfly.

I will say that it is too late to play the sounds too much like game when there are often several bands that use the same exact name but it's a subjective game so..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 20, 2013, 07:27:11 PM
My one project is moving along at a glacial pace, but still moving. I was also just invited to contribute bass/vocals to a heavier thing, which I'm gonna give a try. I have never done anything but dick around on the bass, so it should be interesting. Drummer's letting me use his bass/rig.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on May 20, 2013, 08:47:40 PM
Tomalley


It's got a lobster connection.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 21, 2013, 01:19:58 PM
That's awesome racer. Just follow the groove and kick/snare pattern and you'll be golden. Branching out musically is always a good thing.




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Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 21, 2013, 01:24:57 PM
I like playing bass in three piece bands. Makes it so you gotta be the balls for real. More chords, more everything. It's a blast. Also, you have the potential to make everything VERY heavy at all the right moments if you want.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
Thanks, dudes. I'm gonna give it a shot. My biggest worry is holding down the bass & vox simultaneously without resorting to root note thumping. There's no place to hide in a 3-piece.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 21, 2013, 02:25:26 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 02:08:57 PM
Thanks, dudes. I'm gonna give it a shot. My biggest worry is holding down the bass & vox simultaneously without resorting to root note thumping. There's no place to hide in a 3-piece.

there is alot to be said for root note thumping...especially during vocals

no need to go all Jaco Pastorius on their asses  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
True, don't wanna overthink it, either, but I really dig countermelodic bass parts in The Heavy Stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 21, 2013, 03:13:45 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
True, don't wanna overthink it, either, but I really dig countermelodic bass parts in The Heavy Stuff.
i have come to as well, but maybe save those for the verse outros, choruses and while the guitarist is soloing?

One thing I LOVE about a trio is when the guitarist solos and there is no rythym guitar.
They coulda put rythym guitar on that first van halen record behind the solos...and ruined it. those solos sound kickass wiht only bass behind them and the bass IS kinda bouncing around cheeesy as van halen is, its a good example..nirvana does it too on their first album...here at 1:44


and here at 1:50...love this stuff..fuck ryththym guitar during a solo for life! also fuck being able to spell rythym


ac/dc is the exception
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 03:48:45 PM
Gotcha. It will be a fine balancing act, but I'm game.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 21, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
alot of peeps get injured when switching to bass becauase of the string gauge change. you got a weakened paw already?? so maybe stretch out alot? dont overdo practices?
have fun
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 21, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
alot of peeps get injured when switching to bass becauase of the string gauge change. you got a weakened paw already?? so maybe stretch out alot? dont overdo practices?
have fun

Thanks for the warning; hadn't thought of that. I'll try to ease into it. Hopefully dude'll let me bring the bass home so I can develop some skills.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 21, 2013, 04:13:06 PM
you should buy yourself a cheap bass anyway right? used fender squire pbass?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
That'll have to go to the end of "The List." I need to at least get a soundhole pickup and replace 2 sets of machine heads before I can even think about that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 21, 2013, 04:58:36 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 21, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
alot of peeps get injured when switching to bass becauase of the string gauge change. you got a weakened paw already?? so maybe stretch out alot? dont overdo practices?
have fun

First hand knowledge of this.  I played bass in a pretty heavy/popish band for about a year.  I play with my guitar fairly slung low and am ok with that.  I know it ain't cool looking to play the chin bass but make sure you're comfortable.  Form over fashion.  I had to bring my bass up a bit a grin and bear it.  I might have looked a bit goofy but when I quit the new guy couldn't play much of my bass lines.  Good luck and have fun.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 21, 2013, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 04:17:31 PM
That'll have to go to the end of "The List." I need to at least get a soundhole pickup and replace 2 sets of machine heads before I can even think about that.

Machine heads on what? I can get Grovers wholesale.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 05:19:12 PM
I need some 3 on a side heavy duty ones for the lap steel (gotta accept .075 on the low e c string, and the string tension is quite high, which is what destroyed the originals) and a set of 12-string ones for slotted headstock on the Yamaha. Those are gonna be the hard ones to find because the spacing is funky. May have to pull the old ones, fill in the slots & drill/mount new, solid headstock style ones.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 21, 2013, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 05:19:12 PMI need some 3 on a side heavy duty ones for the lap steel (gotta accept .075 on the low e c string, and the string tension is quite high, which is what destroyed the originals) and a set of 12-string ones for slotted headstock on the Yamaha. Those are gonna be the hard ones to find because the spacing is funky. May have to pull the old ones, fill in the slots & drill/mount new, solid headstock style ones.

Grovers are heavy duty. You can try two sets of 6 on 1 side for the Yamaha.

Protip: cut your. 75 string long, then unwind the extra bit to thread into the tuner post. They're wound in layers for bulk. Wholesale grovers are sub 40$.

edit: they're Grover mini rotomatics.
You can get Super Rotos for the steel and be out roughly 58 bucks before shipping.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2013, 05:31:51 PM
Thanks, dude. Budgeting the $$ is my biggest problem.

These days, finding a spare $40 is really tough for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 21, 2013, 05:34:49 PM
Yep, lemme know whatchya want to do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 22, 2013, 11:24:15 PM
Here ya go Sunn- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epiphone-Scroll-SC-550-Set-Neck-Block-Inlays-HSC-/190844419149?pt=Guitar&hash=item2c6f36bc4d

My bolt neck mahogany one came today. Can't play it plugged in until tomorrow. Not in perfect shape but it looks awesome although the neck seems a bit tweaked, going to have it looked at by a pro ASAP. Pretty light and the neck is fast. A bit neck heavy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 23, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Sounds likely you'll have to replace most of the electronics. Hopefully the neck's not too bad.

I think I'll stick to my decision to never purchase a guitar I haven't played unless it's a crazy good deal and/or from a trusted friend.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 23, 2013, 02:07:02 PM
My 79 Iceman was an EBay deal, and too good to pass up. Even if it was a shitty guitar I probably could have sold it and not lost money.

But holy shitballs, it's still my main guitar.

I don't know if I'd do that again, but you can get lucky.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on May 23, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
Yeah I got lucky on a ebay purchase with my ibanez, so now I'm scared to try my luck again.  Might've used up all my karma.  :D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 23, 2013, 03:14:25 PM
Smotenized for Ibanez


/jacksonbcrichfanboi
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 23, 2013, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 23, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Sounds likely you'll have to replace most of the electronics. Hopefully the neck's not too bad.

I think I'll stick to my decision to never purchase a guitar I haven't played unless it's a crazy good deal and/or from a trusted friend.

I just meant that I didn't have my amp set up/didn't have enough time to play it plugged in last night. Getting the neck looked at tomorrow. I'm going to mess with the truss rod in a minute and see what I can do myself first. I really want the thing to work out because they are hard to find and it looks awesome. I think the neck pup is stock, single coil under a chrome humbucker cover, might keep it in although it's super low output. There is some sort of black and tan hum in the bridge position which might actually work out but I'd like to know what it is. Both pups together sound fucked up but I only use the bridge one for the Mercian stuff on my cheapie LP right now anyway.

edit: made some adjustments all around. The neck is looking pretty good now and the twist is very slight. The nut holds the strings fine but almost looks ready to crumble. Overall the guitar is missing a couple of tiny screws and a pup screw and 2 of the neck screws don't look stock but it plays well in E and D standard so far. If the local tech tomorrow says the neck issue is minor to the point of being a non-issue this is going to be my main axe and will get thicker strings for B tuning. Once in awhile someone will probably incorrectly pronounce Radagast as "Prince" and zero fucks will be given.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 24, 2013, 04:31:04 AM
I was referring to : "The switch is intermittent in the neck pickup position but has been getting better over the past few months of use (this guitar had not been played in quite some time when I bought it- I have played it a lot). The switch works first try about 80% of the time now, but sometimes you have to toggle it a couple times; I have not replaced any of the electronics out of respect for the originality of the guitar and, unlike the tuners, there's no going back once you've started modding electronics."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 06:34:27 AM
Ah in the 550 listing. I didn't read that far when I posted that link.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 24, 2013, 08:28:31 AM
Oh, I thought that was the one you had bought. *scratches head*

Well, good that the neck's not a major issue.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 02:10:45 PM
My post was probably confusing. I got the SC-350 which is mahogany with a bolt-on neck. And $400, not $1500 or whatever.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 24, 2013, 02:20:18 PM
Yeah, I was thinking you were badly snookered on that $1500 "deal."

$400 is much better. Plus, even if the neck is shit, it can be easily removed & repaired/replaced.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 02:28:03 PM
I posted the SC-550 link because Sunn had previously mentioned wanted one.

Does anyone make a replacement neck for that guitar? I'm not that familiar with oddball Gibsons and Epiphones but I don't know of any other bolt on models they made with 24 fret necks so I'd be surprised if an exact fit could be found in the aftermarket world.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 24, 2013, 02:38:50 PM
I'd assume Warmoth would have something that would fit.

You could also have the original neck steam/pressure straightened.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 02:47:37 PM
Good to know!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
Both Greg and Sid at Greg's here said the neck is twisted and basically inoperable. Doesn't look like Warmoth has a 24 fret neck that looks similar and would fit. This thing is going back to the seller.  :'(  Sid said he's never actually seen one of these in person and he has been in the business for 30+ years and playing for longer.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 24, 2013, 05:13:33 PM
Lol those techs are glum. No comment.  Send it back.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 24, 2013, 05:13:33 PM
Lol those techs are glum. No comment.  Send it back.

Talk to me man. Are you saying you could fix the neck? For cheap? How would you fix it?

I just measured and it's 25-1/2 scale which would be better than my Epi Paul for B tuning. Despite the chips in the body I want to keep this thing but I need to know that it's fixable without spending tons of money. I need to decide quick if I'm going to tell the seller I want a refund.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 24, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
I've never used this service, so "let the buyer beware," but fyi: http://www.warpedneck.com
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 24, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
I've never used this service, so "let the buyer beware," but fyi: http://www.warpedneck.com

$75 sounds reasonable. I'm starting to get my hopes up.  http://www.warpedneck.com/terms.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
I'm going to chance it with that place or Sunn if he's interested. Trying to get a partial refund from the seller to offset some of the cost of the needed work.

Will probably leave the stock pup in the neck but that black n tan bridge has to go. I want something that's very hot and heavy to cut for metal but will also let some of the natural flavor come through. Have Duncan Invaders on my Epi special and like them but I'm not sure if they allow a guitar's flavor to come through much. I use a fuck load of distortion however so that probably nullifies most flavor beyond the most broad characteristics. ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 27, 2013, 11:31:45 PM
Fuck you, GAS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Late-80s-Burny-RLC-Les-Paul-Custom-Cherry-Sunburst-SUPER-CLEAN-Seymour-Duncans-/281111695459?pt=Guitar&hash=item4173901063 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Late-80s-Burny-RLC-Les-Paul-Custom-Cherry-Sunburst-SUPER-CLEAN-Seymour-Duncans-/281111695459?pt=Guitar&hash=item4173901063)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2013, 11:44:54 PM
Put on a set of 13-56 for B tonight and without even adjusting the action it's sounding good despite the neck twist. The longer scale provides more clarity on the B string even with a 56. Still need to play it at full volume but I'm pretty sure this axe is going to work out. Will most likely use it at the gig next Friday and immediately after send the neck off for untwisting and then have the rest of the needed work done. God damn it feels good to be own a gangsta wizard.  8)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 28, 2013, 12:37:12 AM
Holy crap, they made a scroll bass too.

(http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/46/da2f8ad5c803ea1a779e84fee556a87e/l.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 28, 2013, 10:02:52 AM
Yeah, and you will never see one. I've been trying to put my grubby mitts onto one for YEARS and haven't laid eyes let alone hands on one. Ugh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on May 28, 2013, 12:12:59 PM
There was one on ebay four years ago.

http://guitarz.blogspot.ie/2009/06/epiphone-double-scroll-bass.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 28, 2013, 01:10:52 PM
This is probably the wrong forum for such an inquiry but I'm sick of finger slide noise/squeak coming through my amp while moving up and down strings. If I EQ most of it out(guitar tone knob, pedal or amp knob tweaking) I lose a lot of the crunch that I need for the tone I'm going for. Maintaining full fret contact or no contact with the strings(depending the song part) while moving around on the neck seems to be the extent of the technique that helps. I'm talking in particular about moving up and down the neck on strings, not switching strings. Them damn thick string winds catch on the skin. Arg. As much as I like the darker tone knob on 0 sound it doesn't fit my current band as well as a more metallic crunch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: I,Galactus on May 28, 2013, 01:14:42 PM
flats?

(http://www.azwebpages.com/bass/images/strings1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 28, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
firdst time I was ever in a r3ecording studio the engineer tried to get me to not make those finger squeaks. I was like 14 or 15 and it drove me nuts.

I never thought about trying to eliminate them again. I just accepted it as part of the instrument.
Then I began to notice it on alot of records and figured others did too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 28, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
Quote from: I,Galactus on May 28, 2013, 01:14:42 PM
flats?

(http://www.azwebpages.com/bass/images/strings1.jpg)

Similar to the tone knob on zero, not enough crunch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 28, 2013, 01:39:55 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 28, 2013, 01:32:42 PM
firdst time I was ever in a r3ecording studio the engineer tried to get me to not make those finger squeaks. I was like 14 or 15 and it drove me nuts.

I never thought about trying to eliminate them again. I just accepted it as part of the instrument.
Then I began to notice it on alot of records and figured others did too.

In recent years I've switched to a brighter more crunchy tone and have yet to accept finger squeaks. I don't notice it on albums much, perhaps I'm just not listening for it. I hate it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 28, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
I don't really care about string noise myself, but if I did, I might try this crap:

(http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/1800/FingerEase-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 28, 2013, 08:13:31 PM
LS, We play similar string gauge. Once your calluses build up, it becomes minimal.

Also, you need to have an authoritative grip. I play a lot of Napalm Death slidey shit, and no string squeaks.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 28, 2013, 08:15:27 PM
Finger squeaks are evidence that an actual human is playing.
Try to keep them to a minimum but don't  kill yourself trying to eliminate each and every one.
Be grateful you are not a robot.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 28, 2013, 08:20:03 PM
Dial back some treble and swing in some mids.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 28, 2013, 08:50:27 PM
Use Elixir strings. I use them on my bass since I got chordy and need lots of top. Annoying they don't come as heavy as I prefer, but the never needing to change them (until you lend your bass to a pick player) is cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2013, 12:33:49 AM
I'll consider all of this. I don't quite play with my fingertips so my calluses don't develop as much as they do for some. Playing with the fingertips requires more bend in the wrist and my wrist can't handle such a bend for 2 hours at a time. I have found that a harder grip when sliding helps reduce the noise but only so much. I try to avoid contact with flammable chemicals when possible but that Finger Ease stuff looks promising.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2013, 04:18:16 AM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on May 28, 2013, 08:50:27 PM
Use Elixir strings. I use them on my bass since I got chordy and need lots of top. Annoying they don't come as heavy as I prefer, but the never needing to change them (until you lend your bass to a pick player) is cool.

They make a 7 string set that is exactly the gauge I'm currently using. Will try ASAP. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on May 29, 2013, 09:36:12 AM
speaking of strings and fingers and authoritive grips, I have a problem I need help with...

whats the problem if a string starts crapping out on you? I'm practising all my leads noticing that my 4th string is having none of it, no sustain, no ringing out, the whole guitar was restrung a few weeks ago, i'm playing live soon so have practised my lead parts around avoiding that string just in case though I'll take my guitar to the tech on Saturday, Iv examined the string from the machine head, to nut to bridge and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong that I can see, will the tech guy know what it is, is it something common?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 29, 2013, 10:05:44 AM
Really heavy plain Gs seem to sometimes sound duff. Sort of wonder if its a nut profile issue, as the plain won't wear its groove so much and its low enough to matter. There's loads of physics to it: http://www.edgeguitarservices.co.uk/rout_serv/nut_geom.htm
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on May 29, 2013, 10:49:36 AM
Yeah there is certainly loads of physics to it! I suspect its the nut too, I cant see any obvious problem but I also don't really know what I'm looking for, the nuts on this guitar are a mess though, the guy I go to mentioned last time he was giving it back that he'd fix the nut up properly some day so maybe that's it...
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 29, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
It isn't a wound G, is it? Wound G is the worst thing to ever happen to lead playing. Takes all of your bendy tricks away.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on May 29, 2013, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 29, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
It isn't a wound G, is it? Wound G is the worst thing to ever happen to lead playing. Takes all of your bendy tricks away.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/29/upe7a5aq.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2013, 12:37:59 PM
Sounds like the nut slot is worn down too low.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 29, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on May 29, 2013, 09:36:12 AM
speaking of strings and fingers and authoritive grips, I have a problem I need help with...

whats the problem if a string starts crapping out on you? I'm practising all my leads noticing that my 4th string is having none of it, no sustain, no ringing out, the whole guitar was restrung a few weeks ago, i'm playing live soon so have practised my lead parts around avoiding that string just in case though I'll take my guitar to the tech on Saturday, Iv examined the string from the machine head, to nut to bridge and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong that I can see, will the tech guy know what it is, is it something common?



you say restrung, by whom? If it was by a guitar tech you should take it back and have them set it up correctly.

if its you and its juts crapping out, it might be at the nut. try wedging a little bit of paper under the string at the nut to lift it off the neck ever so slightly.
Ive got an sg like this. the perma fix is either a new nut or filling the nut slot with nail polish and filing it back down. neither of which Id try on my own with a 72 SG, so the guitar has had a little peice of paper under one of its strings for a couple years now  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
Just ordered some oversized strap buttons for my Epi Scroll. People who move the neck button tend to put it on the end of the scroll but I could also try it on the back of the scroll. My strap would hug my chest and shoulder better that way and it would probably be just as effective at reducing neck dive. Anyone have thoughts on this?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 29, 2013, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
Just ordered some oversized strap buttons for my Epi Scroll. People who move the neck button tend to put it on the end of the scroll but I could also try it on the back of the scroll. My strap would hug my chest and shoulder better that way and it would probably be just as effective at reducing neck dive. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Don't. It's a rare, vintage guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2013, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 29, 2013, 01:20:18 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
Just ordered some oversized strap buttons for my Epi Scroll. People who move the neck button tend to put it on the end of the scroll but I could also try it on the back of the scroll. My strap would hug my chest and shoulder better that way and it would probably be just as effective at reducing neck dive. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Don't. It's a rare, vintage guitar.

Don't move it at all? Right now it feels like a longer neck heavy SG when I let go of it and I hate that. The neck plate is a horrible placement for a strap button. While playing it's fine but sometimes I have to mess with vocal shit(or whatever else) on stage and having both hands free without my guitar floundering around and sagging is nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 29, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 29, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
Ive got an sg like this. the perma fix is either a new nut or filling the nut slot with nail polish and filing it back down. neither of which Id try on my own with a 72 SG, so the guitar has had a little peice of paper under one of its strings for a couple years now  ;)

Best non replacing nut fix is clean out the slot, get some bone, like another nut/offcut and file dust into the slot, then drop superglue onto that, it soaks into the dust and binds it nice and solid, then you can file it back.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 29, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on May 29, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 29, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
Ive got an sg like this. the perma fix is either a new nut or filling the nut slot with nail polish and filing it back down. neither of which Id try on my own with a 72 SG, so the guitar has had a little peice of paper under one of its strings for a couple years now  ;)

Best non replacing nut fix is clean out the slot, get some bone, like another nut/offcut and file dust into the slot, then drop superglue onto that, it soaks into the dust and binds it nice and solid, then you can file it back.

right, I forgot about that one. you see why I dont trust myself to work on my own guitars?  :D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 29, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
Professional guitar tech (me) has little slips of paper on four of his guitars.

LS, Play a neckthru BC Rich mockingbird for a while, then you can talk about neck dive. :-D

RaverXXX420yolo knows what I mean.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 29, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
So my drums are piled up in my apartment for now, thanks to a lot of bullshit and loads of help from the amazing Lumpy. Seriously, man - you're awesome and I owe you big time. Maybe it's for the best for the next couple of months. I have a lot going on and I don't particularly need the hassle/drain on my limited finances that is being in a band at the moment. Nevermind that I haven't found anyone that's interested... So anyway.. yeah. That happened.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 29, 2013, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on May 29, 2013, 02:38:12 PM
So my drums are piled up in my apartment for now, thanks to a lot of bullshit and loads of help from the amazing Lumpy. Seriously, man - you're awesome and I owe you big time. Maybe it's for the best for the next couple of months. I have a lot going on and I don't particularly need the hassle/drain on my limited finances that is being in a band at the moment. Nevermind that I haven't found anyone that's interested... So anyway.. yeah. That happened.

now that you have stopped looking for a band, you will find one tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 29, 2013, 03:02:47 PM
Heh. That sounds about right.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 29, 2013, 05:18:33 PM
Update: Re-posted my ad for shits and giggles, got three responses in two hours. One of them even seems legit!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on May 29, 2013, 06:43:41 PM
it is not tomorrow yet >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 29, 2013, 07:24:12 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on May 29, 2013, 06:43:41 PM
it is not tomorrow yet >:(
;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 29, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Back in the day everyone I asked said this shit was graphite and would soak into your neck and dampen/deaden the wood.


Quote from: RacerX on May 28, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
I don't really care about string noise myself, but if I did, I might try this crap:

(http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/1800/FingerEase-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 29, 2013, 10:06:55 PM
Prolly catch a buzz off it, too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 30, 2013, 05:20:07 AM
..greasy fingers, smearing shabby clothes...


get string cleaner/polish


disco, if you are still sitting tight, I feel an impending score!, but everything takes so fucking long when it doesn't have to.
regardless, pm's coming soon in spite of the logistics fails.

liquid, I think I know where the missing danzig is.
my 5 disk changer, one day just got stupid, and I changed cables to the big changer to keep listening to something. I don't believe I ever pulled the other 4 cd's......

is anyone interested in making a music video for a cover of lunatic fringe? is anyone interested in helping maybe with drums or bass or a slide guitar part on the cover itself?.  this song will be somehow heavied up and could easily support a longer heavier slide soloing.

there! bzns all cleaned up lol
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on May 30, 2013, 04:17:39 PM
So I got responses from 7 people, two of them looked very good. The guy I'm really digging is the guitar player in this band.

http://alkahest.bandcamp.com/album/churning-the-ocean

The other guy is into Converge and Coalesce and t'ings o' dat sort.

Things are looking up for Discö.  8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 30, 2013, 09:35:45 PM
if anyone is looking for someone who can make/dub 8-tracks, I have a friend who can do it. he just made a small batch for my band..limited to 5 copies. its the real deal. they kick ass.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/s480x480/943274_653411354673700_1531502191_n.jpg)     
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 30, 2013, 09:39:33 PM
for those of you that think 8-tracks are obsolete..i give you this..
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/562809_625689794115104_1910574797_n.jpg)  
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 30, 2013, 09:43:00 PM
and this..
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RRkMkQ9TyuM/RhYtnamASxI/AAAAAAAAAHo/SdrH_Z3LWHw/s400/8_track_01.jpg)
(http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-150-1277501-1205799724.jpeg)
id kill to have those in the collection..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on May 30, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
The 8 track posts just blew my mind a little. Awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 30, 2013, 10:19:35 PM
How many minutes per track? In other words, what is the time limit/format or whatever?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 30, 2013, 10:30:00 PM
it depends on the original tapes length..he overdubs them onto good pre-existing 8-tracks. the foam has to be good. they sound killer. he cleans up the shell and makes new labels..its a novelty release for sure..but its cool as hell. I don't think hes going to be able to make them forever as the supply of good stock is limited. he knows all sorts of shit about 8 tracks..it appears the Colombia 8 tracks from the 80s hold up the best..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 30, 2013, 10:33:35 PM
Should the songs be similar length? Any guidelines?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 30, 2013, 10:50:05 PM
no on song length..just send him your material and he will make them..you got to talk to him about color shell options and quantity and whatnot..and send your artwork.   that's it..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 30, 2013, 10:51:30 PM
8 track cartridge logo is optional..
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 31, 2013, 02:03:39 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 29, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
LS, Play a neckthru BC Rich mockingbird for a while, then you can talk about neck dive. :-D

No thanky.

Rare guitar or not I'm moving that neck strap button. Many guitars are like that stock anyway.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 31, 2013, 02:06:53 AM
Quote from: jibberish on May 30, 2013, 05:20:07 AM
liquid, I think I know where the missing danzig is.
my 5 disk changer, one day just got stupid, and I changed cables to the big changer to keep listening to something. I don't believe I ever pulled the other 4 cd's......

Cool man. I love the Misfits and have had friends into Danzig for a long time so am familiar with some of the John Christ stuff but for whatever reason I never picked up any albums over the years. You need to hear that Waylon '78 show if you like those '70s albums.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 31, 2013, 11:45:23 PM
Reading what happened to the original lineup of Danzig was quite sad. John got his fretting hand crushed in an accident and still can't play guitar as well as he used to and Chuck just straight-up quit the biz after having to deal with Mike Ness. :'(


I got a pair of creme Dimarzio Dual Sound's on the way for my Mock. Just need to pick up the push pull pots and some wiring and this baby will be my 'metal' axe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 01, 2013, 01:35:32 AM
I did the exact opposite to my Mock. took out the neck, and only left a volume knob. Open holes and cavities.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on June 01, 2013, 04:33:06 AM
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sitar1.jpg)

WANT. Or at least try it some time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 01, 2013, 11:18:58 AM
That's awesome mortlock!!

Thanks for the string advice guys, gonna take it to the tech after iv played my first shows next week, can't risk any more tech guy disasters or a new feel to my guitar at the last minute I couldn't cope! Think the whole nut needs replaced though its all over the place, this problem has also come up ever since I had a couple of frets shaved down so maybe that's it, sunnO))) it's not a wound G no, my wound G does me proud though he he!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 01, 2013, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on June 01, 2013, 04:33:06 AM
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sitar1.jpg)

WANT. Or at least try it some time.

This thing is part sitar? Awesome!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on June 01, 2013, 12:54:44 PM
Electric sitar so normal 6-string with 13 sympathetic strings for resonation. 3 lipstick pickups. Italia does a similar model, probably even same factory since they do that finish on theirs as well. It's not a sitar by any means but it does carry that vibe a bit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 01, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
ah yes ..the "coral sitar" from the late 60's. used on alot of philadelphia soul tracks, then on a few rock tracks before they switched to real sitars (beattles, stones)

heres Rory gallagher playing one in the 1980's
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on June 01, 2013, 03:03:38 PM
Sounds awesome in Rory's hands, but everything did.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 01, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
For you Peavey T60 fans, Greg's Guitar Shop here in Madison, WI has 3 of them in the $400-450 range in good shape. Black, sunburst(or whatever), and tan. The black is quite a bit lighter than the other two. I'd pick it up if I didn't just buy an Epi Scroll.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 01, 2013, 06:00:48 PM
Started a new one-man project. It's fucking impossible to find someone to play stoner/sludge/doom here in Poland so i guess I'll stick with myself for a while.

Already recorded (just) one riff, just to check if my RR-250 is able to handle low tuning properly sound enough dirty. Neck pickup should be good for it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 01, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 01, 2013, 06:00:48 PM
Started a new one-man project. It's fucking impossible to find someone to play stoner/sludge/doom here in Poland so i guess I'll stick with myself for a while.

Already recorded (just) one riff, just to check if my RR-250 is able to handle low tuning properly sound enough dirty. Neck pickup should be good for it.

Cool man. When winter comes back around here I want to get going on 2 solo projects, one '90s Electric Wizardy hyper fuzz doom and the other '60/70s style heavy psych. No real time right now with my main band and outdoor activities and what not.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 01, 2013, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 01, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
'90s Electric Wizardy hyper fuzz doom
I used to use Behringer SF-300 copy of FZ-2. One day it just died :-(
I know it sucks but now i use vst plugins to work on my tone. Or just Big Muff + cab simulation.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 01, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
I think "FZ-2" would make a great name for an Electric Wizard tribute band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 01, 2013, 08:10:41 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 01, 2013, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 01, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
'90s Electric Wizardy hyper fuzz doom
I used to use Behringer SF-300 copy of FZ-2. One day it just died :-(
I know it sucks but now i use vst plugins to work on my tone. Or just Big Muff + cab simulation.

That sucks. I also have the Behringer and try to be gentle with it although I don't use it much now. Saw an FZ-2 for sale today for $100. Want it but can't really justify the price at the moment.

If plugins work for you I see nothing wrong with it. Folks are doing amazing recordings in their apartments these days just plugging into a computer.

Quote from: Jake on June 01, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
I think "FZ-2" would make a great name for an Electric Wizard tribute band.

I agree although 99 out of 100 people this rang any sort of bell for would think of Zappa.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 01, 2013, 08:17:38 PM
Thee first act of blasphemy performed against my Epi Scroll is now complete- installing a strap button on the back side of the body on the scroll. This is the way to do it, your strap hugs the chest and shoulder more. The guitar only feels a little bit neck heavy now and there is zero floundering.

Thee second act of blasphemy- Duncan Invader pups. Next week. They are actually a bit too much in my cheapo Epi Paul special at full volume but I think the clarity of the longer scale Scroll will tame them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on June 01, 2013, 08:39:49 PM
Suddenly I think I may need an EH Holy Grail.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EHX-ElectroHarmonix-Nano-Holy-Grail-Reverb-Guitar-Effects-Pedal-PD0597-/321135981859


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on June 01, 2013, 10:16:15 PM
I think I need a bird with big enough norks to balance amps on.
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Incarante/charisroost.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on June 02, 2013, 11:17:02 AM
^Suh-weet

I'm starting to think my best course of action for jamming out in my apartment that has strict noise pollution laws is to just get a new Iphone and pick up amplitude or that Peavey version of Amplitude.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 02, 2013, 11:53:43 AM
Yep. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/02/y6y8ery5.jpg)

I was dicking with amp sims last night. They aren't as bad as they were three years ago! I had a cranked up Soldano and a double cut Les Paul with p90s, recording black metal tunes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 03, 2013, 02:19:55 AM
these $10 sony mdr-wo8 headphones scared me. man do they sound good and you quickly forget you have thm on. unbelievable for casual listening.  glad I found them in my junk collection.  I hate earbuds. fuck those.  I need to make a nice delicate little headphone extension cord now.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_kw=Sony+MDR+W08L+W08+Headphone
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2013, 10:15:57 PM
Are Epi G-400 SGs neck heavy?

If they aren't I want a Korean one in sunburst or "worn" for E standard rock.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 06, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
My Epi Scroll came with a zebra humbucker in the bridge position that says SONEX-180 DELUXE 234957 on the back. After some Googling believe it's a Gibson Velvet Brick because it has 3 mounts. It sounded quite good, not as bassy as I like but crunchy enough through my dirt pedal and smooth but it would feedback way too much, to the point where I had to adjust out too much crunch(treble) using the tone knob or set my noise gate too high to get the feedback to stop. In comparison, my Epi LP Special II with Duncan Invaders sounded like a fucking trash can. So what do I do? Have the Invaders put into my Scroll of course because I thought they would sound smoother in a higher quality longer scale guitar. Well they do, a little bit, but they also sound like a trash can in that guitar too. If I do anything to try to remedy this trashy shit sound, like adjust the tone knob, I lose the cutting crunch that I need. Fail. Even the Super Distortion in my Epi LP Junior Special sounds like shit in comparison to that Gibson pup.(another idea is to quit buying cheap shitty guitars, I agree and I've started on that)

Anyone have bridge pickup recommendations for me? I tune down to B and use loads of crunchy high gain distortion(more metal metal than sludge) but I also need a pup that doesn't make my rig sound like a plugged in trash can.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 06, 2013, 03:51:53 PM
Bare Knuckle Nailbombs (Alnico V ones, calibrated set). They are pretty universal - i use bridge one for my black metal riffs and neck one for saturated sludgy / doomy riffage. Also, they can be coil splitted.

Unfortunately they are rather pricey.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 06, 2013, 07:32:22 PM
I only ever use the bridge pup so pricey is okay for the right one. I'll read about that one.


Got the Elixir Nanoweb strings on. They have a somewhat muffled sound to me but they do make sliding around easier, reduce finger noise a bit, and take the edge off the garbage can Invader tone.


Also, the finish on my Scroll is butter soft as I accidently found out today when my screwdriver slipped.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 06, 2013, 07:38:28 PM
I recorded about seven-eight riffs during last two days but I'm not very satisfied with them (but - obviously - i can use them as the base for something better).

Also, I'm still tinkering with the logo for my project. And it's still far from being perfect:

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1707/cock11.png)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 06, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Those high output pickups are what gives you the gross trashcan tone.

I use mid output, and play hard.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 06, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on June 06, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Those high output pickups are what gives you the gross trashcan tone.

I use mid output, and play hard.

It's kind of sad that it took me so long to figure this out. What would you use for high gain low tuned metal metal?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 06, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 06, 2013, 07:38:28 PM
I recorded about seven-eight riffs during last two days but I'm not very satisfied with them (but - obviously - i can use them as the base for something better).

Also, I'm still tinkering with the logo for my project. And it's still far from being perfect:

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1707/cock11.png)
cool name..the 'k' looks like an 'r' and im not sure I like the sideways st. vitus 'v'..in a way its cool though but I could see it becoming something you could potentially regret in the long run..
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 06, 2013, 11:46:48 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 06, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on June 06, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Those high output pickups are what gives you the gross trashcan tone.

I use mid output, and play hard.

It's kind of sad that it took me so long to figure this out. What would you use for high gain low tuned metal metal?

Super D's.  ;D

or go active.

http://www.guitarfetish.com/REDactive-Humbucker-Active-Bridge-position-Black-_p_6670.html (http://www.guitarfetish.com/REDactive-Humbucker-Active-Bridge-position-Black-_p_6670.html)

I don't go active because I don't dig the look, but honestly? I play a Boogie most of the time, with a Catilinbread SCOD on the clean channel, just slamming the preamp. My tone isn't saturated, it's tight and clean, but has sustain and bite. Less gain was my friend, seriously.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 07, 2013, 12:33:50 AM
The price is right on those actives but I'm not ready to give up on passives. Kinda thinking that it would be hard to go wrong with a beefy and somewhat hot PAF style pup. It can't feedback too much though.

I wish I could back off the distortion and volume but I can't.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 07, 2013, 01:52:04 AM
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Humbucker-Sized-Guitar-Pickups_c_26.html

Their Fat Pat, Crunchy Pat, and Dream 180 all sound promising. And the price is right.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 07, 2013, 03:57:16 AM
About pickups, also 500T or BKP Warpig. But, to be honest, i never cared about pickups. I was able to achieve (relatively) good tone with cheap Wilkinson PAF copies and old Ibanez V5 pickups. Only problems i had with PAF was during fast tremolo picking (two strings at once) but probably it was because my shitty guitar skills, not because of pickup i used.

Now i am BKP fanboy because they installed their pickups in my Skervesen guitar (funny thing is that in Polish this name can be translated as slightly altered "son of a whore") and it absolutely rocks :D

Quote from: mortlock on June 06, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 06, 2013, 07:38:28 PM
I recorded about seven-eight riffs during last two days but I'm not very satisfied with them (but - obviously - i can use them as the base for something better).

Also, I'm still tinkering with the logo for my project. And it's still far from being perfect:

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1707/cock11.png)
cool name..the 'k' looks like an 'r' and im not sure I like the sideways st. vitus 'v'..in a way its cool though but I could see it becoming something you could potentially regret in the long run..
Why? Because of style changes? I am aware of it and I'm not afraid of changing logo in the future :D Also, in most medieval-ish fonts R is similar to modern K. But thanks for your comments - I'll try to alter it (if i can find enough motivation to do it).
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 07, 2013, 12:03:21 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 07, 2013, 03:57:16 AM
About pickups, also 500T or BKP Warpig. But, to be honest, i never cared about pickups. I was able to achieve (relatively) good tone with cheap Wilkinson PAF copies and old Ibanez V5 pickups. Only problems i had with PAF was during fast tremolo picking (two strings at once) but probably it was because my shitty guitar skills, not because of pickup i used.

Now i am BKP fanboy because they installed their pickups in my Skervesen guitar (funny thing is that in Polish this name can be translated as slightly altered "son of a whore") and it absolutely rocks :D

Can you describe the tremolo picking issues you had with PAF pickups?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 07, 2013, 05:16:25 PM
While tremolo picking on two strings at the same time it sounded like 1/8th notes, not like 1/16th ones.

But as I said - in 90% it was because the wrong picking technique but I can't be 100% sure because I switched guitars AND my technique improved (I'm not a very good guitar player :D).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on June 07, 2013, 06:52:04 PM
I say, run whatever and focus on the music. Gear won't necessarily make you a better player and it certainly has little effect on writing good music. in other words, shut up and play yer guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 07, 2013, 07:47:50 PM
Speaking of band logos, I know they're sorta unnecessary, but they're kind of fun to have. Here's a few looks i did for a new band I'm in. Some of you may notice the Lebowski reference.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/3FEBF442-7827-4E8B-B813-273B241CCBF4-20678-00001716CD807A89_zpsde6eeac6.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 07, 2013, 09:01:01 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 07, 2013, 03:57:16 AM
About pickups, also 500T or BKP Warpig. But, to be honest, i never cared about pickups. I was able to achieve (relatively) good tone with cheap Wilkinson PAF copies and old Ibanez V5 pickups. Only problems i had with PAF was during fast tremolo picking (two strings at once) but probably it was because my shitty guitar skills, not because of pickup i used.

Now i am BKP fanboy because they installed their pickups in my Skervesen guitar (funny thing is that in Polish this name can be translated as slightly altered "son of a whore") and it absolutely rocks :D

Quote from: mortlock on June 06, 2013, 09:27:38 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 06, 2013, 07:38:28 PM
I recorded about seven-eight riffs during last two days but I'm not very satisfied with them (but - obviously - i can use them as the base for something better).

Also, I'm still tinkering with the logo for my project. And it's still far from being perfect:

(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1707/cock11.png)
cool name..the 'k' looks like an 'r' and im not sure I like the sideways st. vitus 'v'..in a way its cool though but I could see it becoming something you could potentially regret in the long run..
Why? Because of style changes? I am aware of it and I'm not afraid of changing logo in the future :D Also, in most medieval-ish fonts R is similar to modern K. But thanks for your comments - I'll try to alter it (if i can find enough motivation to do it).
don't do it on my behalf. im just throwing my drunken, stoned 2 cents around..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 08, 2013, 05:03:32 AM
Quote from: Omlet on June 07, 2013, 05:16:25 PM
While tremolo picking on two strings at the same time it sounded like 1/8th notes, not like 1/16th ones.

But as I said - in 90% it was because the wrong picking technique but I can't be 100% sure because I switched guitars AND my technique improved (I'm not a very good guitar player :D).

Ah. I think some death metal bands do that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 08, 2013, 05:06:23 AM
We played with Vega and Red Desert tonight at the Cactus Club in Milwaukee. Both bands killed, mega heavy stoner type stuff. Our first out of town show. I saw Witchcraft play that stage twice years back so it felt awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on June 09, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
I think I am going to pick up an Orange Tiny Terror :-[
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 09, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
Buy a Traynor
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 09, 2013, 05:00:28 PM
Bringing in a bass player for Ocean of Stars for rehearsal on Tuesday.

Guy is stupid fucking good on bass and has been playing with the drummer in various projects over the years.

Will report back on what happens. \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 10, 2013, 05:23:33 PM
My friend has cancelled our tomorrow jam. It sucks because probably it was my last chance to play some music with someone, not solo.
Ehh, fuck it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 10, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
I played with a band (Black Mass, check em out really damn good) last night, they were using a tiny terror and it was seriously the loudest thing iv heard in a long time! Ears absolutely destroyed! Even louder than some guy who used 3 valve heads the night before, I wouldn't mind a tiny terror myself!

So I just played my first gigs in 10 years with a few shows around the country, was so anxious on the run up to it but it all went really well, I'm so relieved and psyched at the same time!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 10, 2013, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on June 10, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
I played with a band (Black Mass, check em out really damn good) last night, they were using a tiny terror and it was seriously the loudest thing iv heard in a long time! Ears absolutely destroyed! Even louder than some guy who used 3 valve heads the night before, I wouldn't mind a tiny terror myself!

So I just played my first gigs in 10 years with a few shows around the country, was so anxious on the run up to it but it all went really well, I'm so relieved and psyched at the same time!

was it fun? if so , great job!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 10, 2013, 10:39:21 PM
instrumentation im using for the international noise conference shows..ill probably use it for summer scum in july as well. im keeping it basic..mini brute synth into a vintage dod death metal pedal..
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/600569_625509907461577_1196268734_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 11, 2013, 09:04:48 AM
Yeah looooads of fun Chovie better than I hoped! ;)

Absolutely gutted now though, just heard from our amp tech guy who we stopped off at on the way home with our 118, it's a total goner...

We lent our back line out to every band on the tour, and this one band on the second night started asking really stupid questions about ohmage as they were about to set up, they asked if they should set their head to 16ohm for our 2 x 8ohm cabs, apparently asked a couple of people the same thing, anyway they went on, took up 40 mins of a 5 band bill (with two headlining bands still to go) cocky as hell loads of messing about pointlessly between songs, actually asked to borrow another bands bass cos they bust a string before their last song, then their head and our bloody cab blew....

So anyway the cabs driver is gone, that's a few hundred I can't afford at the end if the month cos we'll need another one asap, that was the best cab I ever had....
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 11, 2013, 09:12:46 AM
Exactly why nobody uses my shit at shows without me doing the cabling. I know what my amps and cabs are capable of, and i am very clear about that shit lol.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 11, 2013, 09:23:05 AM
Yeah that's the lesson learned! I just presumed that people should know this stuff, and be 100% sure if they're using someone else's gear!!

Has anyone replaced a driver before? Tech is quoting £250-300, can we DIY it? It'd be hard to find another cab exactly the same, that's the one I want...
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 11, 2013, 09:27:11 AM
An 18, right? Your tech is a gouging cocksucker if it's as easy as replacing the driver. Did the cab have a horn, and a crossover?

What cab/model?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 11, 2013, 09:39:07 AM
It's a trace elliot 118, 8ohm, can't tell which model all I know is its old, I don't know about the crossover, we have people who can help fix it but any advice would be much appreciated so we can do it right!
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 11, 2013, 09:43:31 AM
http://www.traceelliot.com/cabinets/?item=116941 (http://www.traceelliot.com/cabinets/?item=116941)

That it?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 11, 2013, 09:54:42 AM
Ours is an older model i think it's more of a perfectly square cube covered in black/green fuzz!
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 11, 2013, 10:13:46 AM
Either way, an 18 is 150 + ship, so call it 170 USD. It takes 15 minutes to put one in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 11, 2013, 10:24:15 AM
Sounds good! cheers :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 11, 2013, 10:43:24 AM
Arg. That sucks. I lent a guy my head and one of my cabs 2 shows ago because his combo fell off his chair and broke before they started. He was acting like an idiot so I made sure to set everything up myself and watch their set closely.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 11, 2013, 02:23:28 PM
Yeah. If anyone uses my rig I set it up for them.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on June 11, 2013, 05:47:05 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on June 11, 2013, 09:39:07 AM
It's a trace elliot 118, 8ohm, can't tell which model all I know is its old, I don't know about the crossover, we have people who can help fix it but any advice would be much appreciated so we can do it right!

Eminence OMEGA PRO-18A should work in that cab OK, they have reasonable top for an 18, can't say it will sound the same as the old one, trace used Celestions, but I know the driver works in bigish for bass cabs boxes, and has enough top for standalone not expecting lots of highs (that cba is being used by a reggae guy now, but he does slap sometimes, you can tell its slap).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 11, 2013, 07:06:05 PM
Thanks for the tip, I'm thinking of going for a celestion though I feel the need, pretty much all of my cabs are celestion, it'll be costly but worth it I think, maybe that's why the tech has quoted so much? They're around £200, haven't spoken to him personally myself yet but I'm guessing he meant to replace the celestion then, we could buy & fit it ourselves to save money.... oh the stress....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on June 11, 2013, 07:41:53 PM
Have you contacted Trace?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 11, 2013, 09:13:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on June 11, 2013, 07:41:53 PM
Have you contacted Trace?

Good idea, you should find out what they recommend as a replacement.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 12, 2013, 01:57:36 AM
3 bands, first starts at 10:30, last has to be done by 1:30. 30-40 minute sets, 10:30, 11:30, 12:30, last band can play extra long if they have time.

Sound about right?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 12, 2013, 02:06:46 AM
You're giving yourself 15 spare minutes in case something goes wrong/setup takes forever/etc. It could work, sure... personally, I would rather have the show start and end sooner. IMO, the last band goes on at 12:00 or even earlier. But I'm old and cranky.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 12, 2013, 05:05:35 AM
Id start it at 10pm to allow for any hold ups, it'd make it more chilled...

Emailed Trace and spoke to the tech, the celestions im looking at are for pa not bass. The speaker in the trace was custom made 13 years ago, pretty much impossible to replace unless iv got mega bucks to have another custom made, they don't make celestion bass 18s anymore and they're rare to find now. He would be putting in an OMEGA PRO, asked what the budget is and said he'll call back.

for how much this is gonna cost I could buy another trace cab second hand, they go for £100-£200 anyway I don't think they're overly popular because of their size and weight, only problem is finding one for sale right away...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 12, 2013, 06:20:47 AM
update on the cab saga, the tech got back, the speaker is £180 + priority shipping on top, iv had a look around online that's right, he's gonna charge £235, the cab needs some woodwork done for the new speaker. I'm happy with that, iv been going to him for years and trust him, just looking forward to getting it back alive and well!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 12, 2013, 10:25:20 AM
Is the old 18" speaker totally shot and not salvageable at all? What exactly happens when the wrong impedance is run into it to break it? Cooked voice coil or something?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 12, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
It's totally shot irreparable yeah, I guess something cooked yeah. They either ran the wrong impedance or they plugged into the link instead of the input. I'm wondering if the 15" is damaged too and just didn't fully blow, if its all set up wrong surely that'd damage the other cab too...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 12, 2013, 06:37:39 PM
Instead of practicing / playing some new riffs for the Cockroach Kingdom, I recorded one really shitty, Striborg-style industrial black metal track and one dark ambient / industrial / experimental one. If you're interested you can find 'em on my netlabel's YT channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/SATANSINDUSTRIES).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on June 13, 2013, 12:10:46 PM
Good to hear, Jem.

I just saw Rager's demo of his OR120, GAS.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 13, 2013, 12:47:50 PM
Yeah, no shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on June 13, 2013, 12:59:44 PM
Can someone point me to said demo? It's been a while since I've developed GAS for an amp. (although that Bassman Ten that was for sale here locally came close)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 13, 2013, 05:49:39 PM
The bass player kicked its ass on Tuesday.

His style and sound are way more prog (I have been looking for more of a meat n potatoes bassist) but holy shit. He's fucking amazing. Trying to keep an open mind as far as lineup tho, thats how i wound up with a sax player instead of a 2nd guitar \m/,

It sounded and felt good, very full. Plus him n the drummer have been playing together for years.

That and the sax player just got a mini mixer to use as a preamp so now his effects are coming thru his amp at a much better level.

Getting together with the bass player again next week.

#stoked


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on June 13, 2013, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: Jake on June 12, 2013, 10:25:20 AM
Is the old 18" speaker totally shot and not salvageable at all? What exactly happens when the wrong impedance is run into it to break it? Cooked voice coil or something?

Won't be wrong impedance that did it, will be too much power, is the thing that kills cabs. Too much power and not listening to the sound, so not know its being wrong.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 14, 2013, 12:00:08 PM
The Scroll's neck is warped as well as twisted. Warpedneck.com says they can fix it. Saying turn around time is about 1 week.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 14, 2013, 12:47:39 PM
Lol, fix it fix it!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 14, 2013, 12:57:43 PM
Going out today UPS!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 14, 2013, 01:37:13 PM
24 hour raga festival on wckr right now...holy christ..i mean holy vishnu...get yer drone on.

http://tunein.com/radio/WKCR-FM-899-s30119/ (http://tunein.com/radio/WKCR-FM-899-s30119/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on June 14, 2013, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on June 13, 2013, 12:59:44 PM
Can someone point me to said demo? It's been a while since I've developed GAS for an amp. (although that Bassman Ten that was for sale here locally came close)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 14, 2013, 08:50:31 PM
whats a near mint 1966 Gibson eb-2 bass with original case worth..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 14, 2013, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: mortlock on June 14, 2013, 08:50:31 PM
whats a near mint 1966 Gibson eb-2 bass with original case worth..

1600-2000? Maybe a little more...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 15, 2013, 02:53:09 AM
I'm thinking about a set of GFS 'Alnico Fat PAT' pups for $60 in chrome which are said to be "sort of like JB with about 2k less winds".

Anyone have an opinion on these or the idea of JBs with less winds? I want crunch but not trash can plugged in. My Invaders will be going on ebay.

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Alnico-Fat-Pat-Boutique-Humbucker-Chrome_c_43.html (http://www.guitarfetish.com/Alnico-Fat-Pat-Boutique-Humbucker-Chrome_c_43.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on June 17, 2013, 12:39:33 AM
god mother fucking damnit to all hell, the thieves got my distortion pedal and I never noticed.  MXR double shot, it had the elusive Fuzz but Distortion at the same time thing.  Yes, fuzz with palm mutes.  fuck fuck fuck
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 17, 2013, 05:05:33 PM
Soliciting opinions for the finish of my next Warmoth build – the "Jazzbastard."

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/JH-Jazzbastard_All2_zps47d19ba9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 17, 2013, 05:48:45 PM
out of those i mildly prefer the pewterburst
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 17, 2013, 05:51:05 PM
IMO, they'd all look better with rosewood fretboards.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 17, 2013, 05:56:25 PM
Quote from: dogfood on June 17, 2013, 12:39:33 AM
god mother fucking damnit to all hell, the thieves got my distortion pedal and I never noticed.  MXR double shot, it had the elusive Fuzz but Distortion at the same time thing.  Yes, fuzz with palm mutes.  fuck fuck fuck

That sucks man. Never heard of this pedal, I'll have to listen to some clips, sounds cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 17, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: RacerX on June 17, 2013, 05:51:05 PM
IMO, they'd all look better with rosewood fretboards.

theyd look better if they were telecasters too but  think he just wants a color choice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 17, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
Gracias. I really don't care for rosewood boards (look or feel). For me, it's maple on a Fender and ebony on Gibby.

Or maybe someday, aluminum.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 17, 2013, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: Jake on June 17, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
Gracias. I really don't care for rosewood boards (look or feel). For me, it's maple on a Fender and ebony on Gibby.

Or maybe someday, aluminum.

i fel the same about the boards. fender just says maple to me.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 17, 2013, 07:57:09 PM
Subdecay f-bomb will do what you want doghomie.

Also, lemme know a budget, and ill find you another MXR.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on June 17, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
I like the transparent orange.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on June 17, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Yeah orange.  Only one other guitar I'd WANT in orange...

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/vintage/1990s-charvel-surfcaster-electric-guitar.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 18, 2013, 03:05:27 AM
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/969229_10151987837573135_905007086_n.jpg)
From our Milwaukee show. No flash, all the pics are like this and I dig it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on June 18, 2013, 07:48:38 AM
Quote from: Jake on June 17, 2013, 05:05:33 PM
Soliciting opinions for the finish of my next Warmoth build – the "Jazzbastard."

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/JH-Jazzbastard_All2_zps47d19ba9.jpg)

Goldburst with Pewterburst coming in a close second.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 18, 2013, 10:15:20 AM
Charcoal Frostburst, for me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 18, 2013, 11:24:20 AM
Pissburst
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 18, 2013, 12:05:04 PM
They look cool but really don't look significantly "better" as Teles. Besides, my scorecard reads Tele-2, Jazzmaster-0 right now.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/JH-Telebastard_All_zps1c18973a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 18, 2013, 12:14:49 PM
M fine with jag bodies, twas juts jokin aboot the teles.

all of the fender body shapes are reasonably appealing to me.
I am also kinda partial to fender stock colors. actaully not so much stock..i like the old custom fender colors alot. sea foam green, placid blue, olympic white, candy apple red. tobacco burst.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 18, 2013, 12:24:29 PM
Yeah, I prefer the stock Fender colors on stock Fenders too. But when I'm bastardizing them, the colors get bastardized too.

Also, check this out. You might be surprised just how many stock Fender colors there are.

http://fendercolorchart.webatu.com/colorshome.php (http://fendercolorchart.webatu.com/colorshome.php)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 18, 2013, 12:56:27 PM
I kinda like the metallic copperburst.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 18, 2013, 05:08:05 PM
Quote from: RacerX on June 18, 2013, 12:56:27 PM
I kinda like the metallic copperburst.

Champagne, almost, eh? I dig it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 18, 2013, 06:43:29 PM
Copper and Shoreline Gold. The bursts look like aged Silverburst, which are a little too 'everywhere' now. I like Fender colors.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eddiefive10 on June 18, 2013, 09:58:18 PM
Jake what is the average cost of a build?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 18, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
Hmmm. I really can only speak to the one build I did earlier this year. It came out to around $800 for the neck, custom finished body, string ferrules & trees, jack, neckplate and pickguard (I had the pups, electronics, bridge, and tuners already). Without a custom finish, it'd have been about $250 cheaper. But that's part of the fun of a custom build – getting something one-off.

Spose that's a long way of saying probably around $1000 for everything, depending on your pickup choice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 19, 2013, 12:10:58 AM
Do only older slower computers experience latency while recording or is this common on new fast computers as well?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 19, 2013, 12:51:07 AM
There's still latency, but I don't think you can perceive it.

/wild guess.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on June 19, 2013, 11:19:03 AM
If things are optimized correctly and your computer is powerful enough the latency should be low enough that it sounds instantaneous to you.  We were recording 7-8 tracks at a time on my buddy's computer with plenty of real time FX and had no issues.  I could be wrong, but I think the two important components are a good external interface/soundcard and a lot of RAM.  Obviously you'll need pretty good CPU speed as well, especially if you're using a lot of FX.

Blog:

Still trying to book interesting shows that do not follow the tradition of evenings at bars.  I have a local t-shirt printing place ran by community-oriented hipster types potentially interested.  They happen to have a stage in their store for some damn reason and it's on this culturally progressive street in town where a lot of the cutting edge arts and businesses are located.  My goal is to have my band and one other that play sets that are about an hour long.  All volunteer, no money aside from merch sales.  If they choose to print a t-shirt for the bands/event then profits might go to charity or something.  Wanting to get other local artists to put their shit out and get community exposure.  Also looking for photographers/videographers to document things and make a cool video for promoting the next iteration of it.  That's how it goes in my head anyway, just trying to convince other people with resources that it's worthwhile.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 20, 2013, 12:12:32 AM
That all makes sense about recording, thanks.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--TASDP24

"blemished" for $479? Want.

Anymore "hipster" often means 20 somethings into weird music wearing skinny jeans with messed up hair. I've been to some different for me but good shows at BYOB galleries and shops where most of the people had that look. That set up sounds promising. Some of those types do like heavy stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 20, 2013, 05:09:26 AM
I got mine for 479 brand new shipped from B&H video last November, so IMO
since it was by far the best deal on a new one,that price on a used one or factory blem is borderline ok and borderline about $50-$100 too high.

if the blemish is just a ding on the case (anything besides the LCD faceplate messed up or any of the switches/linear pots fucked up) it is a non-issue


WE HAVE DANZIG.   finally, I can get this shit the fuck outta heah
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 20, 2013, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: jibberish on June 20, 2013, 05:09:26 AM
I got mine for 479 brand new shipped from B&H video last November, so IMO
since it was by far the best deal on a new one,that price on a used one or factory blem is borderline ok and borderline about $50-$100 too high.

if the blemish is just a ding on the case (anything besides the LCD faceplate messed up or any of the switches/linear pots fucked up) it is a non-issue


WE HAVE DANZIG.   finally, I can get this shit the fuck outta heah

How do you like it? I'll keep that site in mind.

Yes!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 21, 2013, 01:14:51 AM
Is B&H the place that has the underpriced weekend sales they aren't supposed to have? The DP-24 is now listed at 599.99.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 21, 2013, 07:27:55 PM
B&H is owned and operated by Hassidic Jews, so they take the weekends off (seriously). They close on Friday at like 4pm, and reopen on Monday.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 22, 2013, 04:21:18 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 20, 2013, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: jibberish on June 20, 2013, 05:09:26 AM
I got mine for 479 brand new shipped from B&H video last November, so IMO
since it was by far the best deal on a new one,that price on a used one or factory blem is borderline ok and borderline about $50-$100 too high.

if the blemish is just a ding on the case (anything besides the LCD faceplate messed up or any of the switches/linear pots fucked up) it is a non-issue


WE HAVE DANZIG.   finally, I can get this shit the fuck outta heah

How do you like it? I'll keep that site in mind.

Yes!

I like the dp 24 a lot.  they saved a fortune by having one set of knobs and then selecting the track to apply the knobs to. at first It was strange, but really, most things aren't tweaked realtime except volume once set up.
but realtime tweaks are easy: instead of reaching for a set of knobs for each channel, you reach for selector switch and use same set of knobs. it all adds up the same once you do it.

the selction of things you can do for each track is off the hook. it will take me a long while to play with all the features.

you could call this an 8 channel mixer and use it for that when not recording. the channel 8 input is a special hi-impedance for guitars. my LP has awesome bottom end through this input. that feature is huge.  you can just USB tracks or songs up to the pc for further mangling in your DAW, or usb them down to the dp24.

the fit and finish is immaculate. everything looks great. nice, clean, solid feel.

this thing is very quiet.  I used it to re-record racerX's song. it pulled the noise floor of the original recording up clean without adding to it any that I could hear and I maxxed it, past 11 heh

for recording , they actually have 2 sets of effects.one set is like your "channel strip" where you would compress and eq during recording. then there is a whole normal set of effects that can be applied to each track.

memory sticks are sweet and I have yet to use the CD burner in it.

this is too cool for hauling out in the back yard.
many people say go with a DAW on a laptop, but you have no idea how super convenient it is to just slap the dp24 down, plug in, hook up some PA action and go. recording is just hitting record, once your "mixer" is set up.
also, there is really nothing to break if this thing fell

for assembling songs out of scraps and massive retakes, the DAW on the PC is better for editing frenzies

EDIT: here is a link to a dp24 review. I guess he sort of says what I was saying..
http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/tascam-dp-24-563287
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I already have the next thing picked out I want from B&H: 4 shure mics for $400: 3 57's and a kick mic, plus mike mounts in the package. I need all that shit.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/229185-REG/Shure_DMK57_52_DMK57_52_Drum_Microphone_Kit.html


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I know I pack zero cred when it comes to really knowing guitars, BUT, everyone has to, at the very least, pick up a hagstrom ultra swede and play it one time.  why is this not like the hottest line of guitars out there? i'll be like slash, except with ultra swedes.   teles are really comfy for me to play, so I think tele players would like it too, especially the "stays in tune long time" part.

------------------------------------------------------------------

and finally, AC/DC's "ride on" is playing on the classic station. I really like this song.

I am going to coax bagpipe sounds from my electronics for guess what song? heh
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: strangelight on June 23, 2013, 02:21:23 PM
contemplating selling my peavey classic 50 212. i'm moving cross-state in a couple months (and moving again a couple months after that) and i'm not sure i wanna haul that behemoth everywhere. i really only play it through an iso-cab anyway, so i could get a nice head and say bye to the combo.

.... someone talk me out of it.  :-\
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 23, 2013, 03:21:18 PM
About to head to Dripping Springs TX to record an album on bass at producer Chet Himes' new studio.

A friend named Jason Patten has put together a last minute band to help turn his ideas into proper songs (the lead player primarily, who is doing an outstanding job). Really awesome to see and hear 7 ideas turn into 10 fully realized songs in a matter of 1 sit down jam and 2 full band rehearsals in less than 10 days.

Feels great being creative, and some last minute session work before heading out for July with Rick Hornyak will help cover bills while I'm out of state.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 23, 2013, 03:22:46 PM
Liz, get a VJ or Black heart little giant? Or a 50w traynor...
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: strangelight on June 23, 2013, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on June 23, 2013, 03:22:46 PM
Liz, get a VJ or Black heart little giant? Or a 50w traynor...

the idea of buying a new amp appeals to me greatly. i like shopping. the biggest reason i don't come down here much is 'cause y'all make me wanna buy shit. but i'm pretty happy with the sound/tone/flexibility of the peavey classic 50. only reason i'd get rid of it is because it's fucking heavy and i'm just a home-player.

maybe i'll finally get a silvertone head...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on June 23, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
Seahag's back to the original lineup, our other guitarist (aside mainman Jermdirt) is back, so I went back to bass. Tonight was our first jam together since May '09 and the shit was ridiculously Heavy (capitalization intended)....we have an EP's worth of new shit we're gonna record right quick, then write a new cycle of tasty chestnuts with this new/old lineup.

/blawghe
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on June 23, 2013, 11:14:46 PM
SWEET HAG!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 24, 2013, 01:59:38 PM
I have a show on Friday, the best show we've played at so far. Best room, best PA, best lineup, best location, best night...

But there's a competing show across town, so the two promoters are trying to figure out how to avoid splitting the crowd. Maybe an early start for us. So I still don't know what time the doors open, or what time our set is. Which makes it hard to promote the show among my friends...

::) >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 25, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on June 21, 2013, 07:27:55 PM
B&H is owned and operated by Hassidic Jews, so they take the weekends off (seriously). They close on Friday at like 4pm, and reopen on Monday.

They are closed for a ton of holidays but usually open on Sundays.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/HoursOfOperation.jsp
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 25, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: jibberish on June 22, 2013, 04:21:18 AM
I like the dp 24 a lot.  they saved a fortune by having one set of knobs and then selecting the track to apply the knobs to. at first It was strange, but really, most things aren't tweaked realtime except volume once set up.
but realtime tweaks are easy: instead of reaching for a set of knobs for each channel, you reach for selector switch and use same set of knobs. it all adds up the same once you do it.

the selction of things you can do for each track is off the hook. it will take me a long while to play with all the features.

you could call this an 8 channel mixer and use it for that when not recording. the channel 8 input is a special hi-impedance for guitars. my LP has awesome bottom end through this input. that feature is huge.  you can just USB tracks or songs up to the pc for further mangling in your DAW, or usb them down to the dp24.

the fit and finish is immaculate. everything looks great. nice, clean, solid feel.

this thing is very quiet.  I used it to re-record racerX's song. it pulled the noise floor of the original recording up clean without adding to it any that I could hear and I maxxed it, past 11 heh

for recording , they actually have 2 sets of effects.one set is like your "channel strip" where you would compress and eq during recording. then there is a whole normal set of effects that can be applied to each track.

memory sticks are sweet and I have yet to use the CD burner in it.

this is too cool for hauling out in the back yard.
many people say go with a DAW on a laptop, but you have no idea how super convenient it is to just slap the dp24 down, plug in, hook up some PA action and go. recording is just hitting record, once your "mixer" is set up.
also, there is really nothing to break if this thing fell

for assembling songs out of scraps and massive retakes, the DAW on the PC is better for editing frenzies

EDIT: here is a link to a dp24 review. I guess he sort of says what I was saying..
http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/tascam-dp-24-563287

Thanks for the review and link. B&H now has it listed at $564.57 so it looks like they still move the price around on it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on June 26, 2013, 02:12:30 PM
getting two new teeth screwed into my skull today.  i wonder if i will shed more or less?  the answer is "ouch".
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 26, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
\m/ wolf fangs or gtfo

LS,maybe  keep shopping if you aren't needing the dp24 immediately.  Although anything around $500-$600 is still amazing , considering what the thing does. I jonesed for a 16 track for so long. almost pulled the trigger on the korg that red giant Damien had, when it dropped well below a grand a couple years back. always wishing for the awesome roland VS series machines..heh. so this is nuts from that perspective.  Damien did a lot of devil child blues on that korg HD recorder.

I got in on the black Friday craziness, and it was a short time limit promo also. I guess it pays to keep shopping certain key places.  I check the big box and big eBox people for the avg going price on things, as they are all about the same(GC, sweetwater, mus friend etc). then check oddballs like zsounds or B&H and I scope ebay too.
maybe watch best buy . if they killed one music dept , they may be re-arranging corporate structure or something...

i'll pm you after I actually have made it to the post office as confirmation.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on June 26, 2013, 04:25:17 PM
Finally starting recording on a new Cold Mourning release this weekend. I joined the band 3 years ago (almost exactly) and that was the main goal at the time. I'm doing all the recording and mixing in my warehouse, we'll see how it goes. I feel like it's more of a "Ehh...fuck it, let's just do it" thing, rather than being well planned and ready for recording. Still, it's something.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on June 26, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
4 hours in the chair and no new teeth!  SONOFAFUCKINBITCH my face hurts.  Lortabs and Turkey.  And guitfiddlin'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 27, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
Quote from: jibberish on June 26, 2013, 03:36:44 PM
LS,maybe  keep shopping if you aren't needing the dp24 immediately.  Although anything around $500-$600 is still amazing , considering what the thing does. I jonesed for a 16 track for so long. almost pulled the trigger on the korg that red giant Damien had, when it dropped well below a grand a couple years back. always wishing for the awesome roland VS series machines..heh. so this is nuts from that perspective.  Damien did a lot of devil child blues on that korg HD recorder.

I got in on the black Friday craziness, and it was a short time limit promo also. I guess it pays to keep shopping certain key places.  I check the big box and big eBox people for the avg going price on things, as they are all about the same(GC, sweetwater, mus friend etc). then check oddballs like zsounds or B&H and I scope ebay too.
maybe watch best buy . if they killed one music dept , they may be re-arranging corporate structure or something...

i'll pm you after I actually have made it to the post office as confirmation.

Cool man.

I'd get that little Tascam 8 track unit for $200 and probably be very happy with it if I didn't think it would be wise to have something that could give up to 8 drum mics their own tracks at once. I'd be fine with 2 tracks for drums but I'm not a drummer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 27, 2013, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: Corey Y on June 26, 2013, 04:25:17 PM
Finally starting recording on a new Cold Mourning release this weekend. I joined the band 3 years ago (almost exactly) and that was the main goal at the time. I'm doing all the recording and mixing in my warehouse, we'll see how it goes. I feel like it's more of a "Ehh...fuck it, let's just do it" thing, rather than being well planned and ready for recording. Still, it's something.

Cool!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 27, 2013, 12:14:00 AM
I'm probably going to get a Duncan SH-5 "custom" for the bridge and either something with roughly equal volume for the neck or nothing in the neck so I have an off switch. Nickel cover too. Anyone feel like talking me out of it?

The custom is said to be good for tuning low, tight lows for palm muting, and just enough gain for metal. I've only ever had stock pups and high output pups in my guitars and want to try something different.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on June 27, 2013, 01:40:36 AM
Quote from: Pissy on June 17, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Yeah orange.  Only one other guitar I'd WANT in orange...

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/vintage/1990s-charvel-surfcaster-electric-guitar.jpg)


Fuck man.... how did we miss the boat on those Surfcasters?  We even saw Tommy Victor playing one and still neither of us investigated further.  Feels like a fail.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on June 27, 2013, 02:21:20 AM
(I've been drinking a lot tonight_


Sometimes I'll hear something that is so good, I just want to drop everything and go write and record. I remember when Dimebag had his column in Guitar World, he once wrote that he would see other guitar players whose reaction to another guitarist playing very well was to want to quit playing, and he said he didn't understand it. Something akin to "man that guy's so good, I should just go be an accountant", while his own reaction would be to get inspired after seeing a good player, and just want to go play. I was talking to a guy the other day about a few newer albums, and he had that same reaction. "Man that record is so good, I should just stop playing music."  Good albums make me want to record. They make the world disappear for a few seconds and I want to lock myself in my studio. They make me excited about music and remind me why I try to make music.

I've been listening to the new National record almost non stop for days now, with bits here and there of the new Black Sabbath (esp the first track), new Sigur Ros, and the new QOTSA. I actually like the new QOTSA, maybe more than the new Clutch (the line for throwing things at me starts right over there>>)   Anyway, yeah it's been an inspiring blitz of new music lately. It's great. I guess that's it
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 27, 2013, 09:52:34 AM
Whenever I hear something I dig, i learn to play like that, then dump it in when I feel it.

I can't stand Jack White, or any of his bands but that motherfucker can play a certain way that I really like. I sit around and look for a muddy fat tone, and the riffs just fall off my fingers.

Same with the black keys...

They just make me wanna play.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 30, 2013, 04:52:47 AM
Tuning more than you actually need to live > being out of tune even for one or two songs

Intonation is also good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on June 30, 2013, 12:32:55 PM
Was supposed to have practice with one band today and then a show tonight with another.  But my mother-in-law died yesterday, so I'll most likely be drinking whiskey with family instead.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 30, 2013, 01:11:02 PM
Sorry to hear that man.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on June 30, 2013, 02:04:55 PM
sorry for your family's loss diddler.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on June 30, 2013, 03:02:04 PM
Thanks dudes.  It wasn't a surprise- she's been terminal for the last 2 years- but the end was kind of sudden.  I always thought she was too mean to actually, finally die.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on June 30, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
Ah, that sucks Diddley, hang in an' all that shit sir, condolences to Miss Didd


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 30, 2013, 04:16:10 PM
Yeah, hang in there, diddler.

Music blog: 

Have not picked up an amplified instrument in months, yet somehow do not have a problem with that, apart from wife ordering me to dust off/wipe down big rig/pedalboard in common area, which felt somewhat emasculating.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 30, 2013, 05:33:05 PM
sorry for your loss.  sometimes after the sting, the closing of that long impending chapter frees everyone to finally move on.

I play almost every morning not plugged in. no point. I can hear it heh. why dick around with all that shit, just grab the thing and play, wander around the house, or whatever...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 01, 2013, 02:11:46 PM
I don't mean I haven't plugged in my electric axes, jibby; I mean they haven't seen the light of day at all. Been playing the resonator, the 12-string, the orchestra model & the ukulele. Have not played my SG, LP Jr., or lap steel for months.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 03, 2013, 12:24:50 AM
modified, nothing to see here
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 03, 2013, 03:26:48 AM
Quote from: RacerX on July 01, 2013, 02:11:46 PM
I don't mean I haven't plugged in my electric axes, jibby; I mean they haven't seen the light of day at all. Been playing the resonator, the 12-string, the orchestra model & the ukulele. Have not played my SG, LP Jr., or lap steel for months.

ahhh, I see, more of an "acoustic trip" vs my "lazy trip"

I don't feel like playing much this week. my fingers and hands are kind of tired and puffy?  too much raking/shoveling and carrying/moving heavy rocks and weeding since the dirt is wet.  flowerbed project is nearing completion , then that's it for this year's big yard projects. I am moving real slow around these rocks, alwaysd wearing heavy leather gloves(old winter gloves, fingers are worn through=full touch but a finger saver when the rocks pinch you) I absolutely cannot fuck up my fret hand.
(personal rule)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 05, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
What do y'all think about when bands cover a song but the guitar player isn't good enough to play the leads note for note and/or the singer can't hit all the high notes?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eddiefive10 on July 05, 2013, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 05, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
What do y'all think about when bands cover a song but the guitar player isn't good enough to play the leads note for note and/or the singer can't hit all the high notes?

If your going to do a cover why not make it your own interpretation? My last band did a cover of Those Poor Bastards "Crooked Man" we doomed the fuck out of that song sounded bad ass
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on July 05, 2013, 06:32:43 PM
Yeah.   Totally subjective.  Playing a cover "straight" and learning the solos note for note is cool and shows your skills as musicians, but on the other hand, making it your own is even better.   A straight up cover is more for cover bands.   Learn the song, then make it sound like you.  The crowd who knows it will appreciate it, and dig that your band put its signature on it.   As for vocals, it's even worse when a band does a cover and the singer changes the way they normally sing to suit the cover.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 05, 2013, 07:38:08 PM
Good points. We don't have any new covers in the works but I've always thought it would be fun to do a Candlemass song although my vocals and guitar playing aren't anywhere near that level. We are however a power trio so I don't think anyone would expect too much. I sing The Ghoul lower rather than try to impersonate Bobby.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on July 07, 2013, 07:30:40 AM
I want 215 basscabs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on July 07, 2013, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on July 07, 2013, 07:30:40 AM
I want 215 basscabs.

They are usually pretty easy to come by on craigslist. You can usually pick up an old Peavey for like $50
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on July 09, 2013, 04:18:21 AM
Not in Euroland  :'(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on July 09, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on July 09, 2013, 04:18:21 AM
Not in Euroland  :'(

Indeed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on July 09, 2013, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: eddiefive10 on July 05, 2013, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 05, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
What do y'all think about when bands cover a song but the guitar player isn't good enough to play the leads note for note and/or the singer can't hit all the high notes?

If your going to do a cover why not make it your own interpretation? My last band did a cover of Those Poor Bastards "Crooked Man" we doomed the fuck out of that song sounded bad ass

One of my last bands took Zep's "Kashmir" and slowed it down to half-time. It was so... fucking... heavy... and about 20 minutes long, so we cut the song in half. Favorite cover I've played, so far. Another vote for "make it yours."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on July 09, 2013, 10:37:33 PM
Make it yours, but make it yours as a creative move, not because you are too lazy to learn the original way.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on July 10, 2013, 12:09:55 AM
amen.  and on that note, recently was banding up with a bassist and a drummer, bassist brings some solid riffs to the table and both of them look at me side ways when I don't play guitar riffs to copy the bass lines note for note-accent for accent?!  I, for one, don't expect or even want the bassist to play my riffs note for note-accent for accent.  Somehow when writing a song these two GIANTS of song writing expect the guitars to parrot the bass line yet when a guitarist brings a riff to the table the bass line needs to compliment the drums.  Thus, the rythmn section.  right, yes, facepalm. for the love of god.  it only got more sane and stable from there...no not really.  I asked for a divorce.  not pretty.  too bad the songs could have been B+, maybe even A-.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on July 10, 2013, 09:23:30 AM
I like the idea of your low vocals on The Ghoul though! I'd slow it down, the leads are pretty simple for that song too, I'd wiggle them and make it all ugly and grim, slowed down it'd sound horrrrrrible! ;)

I had a 215 and it was so insanely heavy it tortured us every week, it wouldn't fit in our lock up so we had to carry it up and down 2 massive flights of stairs every practise, we had it up for sale for ages because no-one seemed to want it, it was a trace elliot and the speakers were spaced quite far apart so it was unusually big, awesome sound though, just keep trawling ebay and other sites ones gotta come up :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on July 10, 2013, 07:24:03 PM
So i'm in the market for purchasing a cab for my Laney VC30.  If I go with the manufacturer's cabs, I can choose between a 2x10 cab or a 1x12.  I'm leaning more towards the 2x10 due to a possibility of more tonal options.  Was curious if any of you guys might have any insight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 10, 2013, 09:02:28 PM
Quote from: johnny problem on July 10, 2013, 07:24:03 PM
So i'm in the market for purchasing a cab for my Laney VC30.  If I go with the manufacturer's cabs, I can choose between a 2x10 cab or a 1x12.  I'm leaning more towards the 2x10 due to a possibility of more tonal options.  Was curious if any of you guys might have any insight.

For playing with others, or for home practice (or both).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on July 10, 2013, 11:16:32 PM
It would be for both situations.  I'm also open to other cabs I could use, but somewhat overly paranoid/not understanding my amps configuration for supporting extension cabs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on July 11, 2013, 12:30:13 AM
Quote from: dogfood on July 10, 2013, 12:09:55 AM
amen.  and on that note, recently was banding up with a bassist and a drummer, bassist brings some solid riffs to the table and both of them look at me side ways when I don't play guitar riffs to copy the bass lines note for note-accent for accent?!  I, for one, don't expect or even want the bassist to play my riffs note for note-accent for accent.  Somehow when writing a song these two GIANTS of song writing expect the guitars to parrot the bass line yet when a guitarist brings a riff to the table the bass line needs to compliment the drums.  Thus, the rythmn section.  right, yes, facepalm. for the love of god.  it only got more sane and stable from there...no not really.  I asked for a divorce.  not pretty.  too bad the songs could have been B+, maybe even A-.

Sometimes they should copy one another,especially in rock. Unless you're playing funk or jazz.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 11, 2013, 12:41:38 AM
it really depends on the level of the bassist. whether or not he can venture off on his own or if he has to follow a riff..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 11, 2013, 01:23:19 AM
Quote from: johnny problem on July 10, 2013, 11:16:32 PM
It would be for both situations.  I'm also open to other cabs I could use, but somewhat overly paranoid/not understanding my amps configuration for supporting extension cabs.

On the back of the cab, there's often two jacks. If so, usually it means that one can be used as an input, and the other can be used to daisy chain to another cab. So even if your amp only has one output jack, it can theoretically drive multiple cabs. You have to see how many ohms the amp is rated for. Then pick your cabs accordingly. Two 8 ohm cabs = 4 ohm load on the amp. Two 4 ohm cabs = 2 ohm load on the amp. Figure out what your amp can handle, then go from there.

I would probably go with a 1x12, but you should get some other opinions. I'm not sure if I can give you a logical reason why.

Also, the kind of speakers make a difference, so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 11, 2013, 01:30:43 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on July 10, 2013, 09:23:30 AM
I like the idea of your low vocals on The Ghoul though! I'd slow it down, the leads are pretty simple for that song too, I'd wiggle them and make it all ugly and grim, slowed down it'd sound horrrrrrible! ;)

We play it about Relentless speed although Death Row has done parts of it super slow and it works. The lead is like 3 notes and it is wiggled. Lately I've been playing the first half of the lead an octave down, power chords in the middle, and up to normal for the last portion.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 12, 2013, 08:39:43 PM
Just posted my Sunn 2000s on Portland CL.  I just don't ever use it anymore.  I've hung onto it solely because it's a rare bird.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 12, 2013, 09:40:36 PM
I just sold my wee-baby drum kit. roughly 180 bucks into it, sold for 260. Not bad.

Time to make another.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 12, 2013, 10:22:04 PM
Was that the Gretsch?  If so that was nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 12, 2013, 11:48:32 PM
MAXIMUMROCKNROLL #363 AUGUST 2013
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/61599_483145748439536_119933446_n.jpg)
one of my current bands..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on July 13, 2013, 06:47:47 AM
My mates Sonance http://sonance.bandcamp.com/ have set up a t-shirt shop here: http://sonance.spreadshirt.nl/

Anyone tried similar? Might do amp ones if it looks like enough sales to be worth.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 02:38:52 PM
Got the Scroll back. The neck warp is almost completely gone. The twist is still there a little bit but it's much more playable. Hopefully it won't wake up and remember how fucked up it was for what was probably a long time. A new nut and a Duncan Custom SH-5 have been installed. Tight bass response and smoother distortion, just what I was looking for. The low B string sounds much better with the slightly longer scale too. It's nice to be playing a half way decent guitar again that is capable of handling low action without tons of fret buzz! Love the double cut away design for easy access to the high frets too. Plus this thing looks awesome, like Gandalf made himself a baritone SG or something.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 13, 2013, 03:06:54 PM
Pics or GTFO.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 03:51:10 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/382549_10201391343722815_1662290916_n.jpg)

Will make a cover of sorts for the empty pup hole. It's a little beat up but that is mostly due to the finish being butter soft. Need to find the truss rod cover.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on July 13, 2013, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 03:51:10 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/382549_10201391343722815_1662290916_n.jpg)

Will make a cover of sorts for the empty pup hole. It's a little beat up but that is mostly due to the finish being butter soft. Need to find the truss rod cover.

You could just get a cheap, no name pick-up from eBay to fill the hole and not wire it up.

Personally if it were me (and I was inclined to never use the neck pup) I'd still wire it up. You can then CHOOSE to not to use it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 13, 2013, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on July 13, 2013, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 03:51:10 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/382549_10201391343722815_1662290916_n.jpg)

Will make a cover of sorts for the empty pup hole. It's a little beat up but that is mostly due to the finish being butter soft. Need to find the truss rod cover.

You could just get a cheap, no name pick-up from eBay to fill the hole and not wire it up.

Personally if it were me (and I was inclined to never use the neck pup) I'd still wire it up. You can then CHOOSE to not to use it.

Or don't cover it, & use the hole as an ashtray...

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg278/msauce27/85005101.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
I don't think there should be a pup in there at all if I'm not going to use it. I like having the selector as an off switch too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 13, 2013, 06:12:50 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
I don't think there should be a pup in there at all if I'm not going to use it. I like having the selector as an off switch too.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Non-smoker.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
Correct.

Basically the ring will be there and the space will be blacked out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 13, 2013, 09:29:23 PM
^^ :D  I'm a fan of the "rough" look. fuck em
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 13, 2013, 10:14:41 PM
An old drivers license with black tape on it screwed under the ring will be easy and quick enough.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on July 14, 2013, 06:40:09 PM
A buddy of mine is selling all his stuff because, like me, he's moving in Australia, only he's going in 1 month. He wants 100 bucks for his MIM Fender Jazz bass. I played it unplugged, had good, deep resonance. It's a bit older and has a couple of dings but it played really sweet. I might just buy it for that little money.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on July 14, 2013, 07:48:24 PM
Gig woes....

I just played three shows and I was totally not on it at all apparently....

First night I couldn't help feeling it was a little quiet, I thought it was down to it being a very large venue and got on with it, noticed my leads weren't soaring loudly like usual....

Second night I'm setting up and realised my pedals were out of their usual settings, realised I must have played like that the night before! That'd explain a few things! Sorted it. Again felt I was slightly quieter than usual, my stack was making the floor tremble etc but it still felt quiet compaired to usual, again put it down to a fairly big space...

The third night we had a bit more time so I had a few strums and a quick mess about with settings, realised the button on my amp that gives the full on monster sound was not pushed in as usual! I'd played like that the previous two nights!! So finally I'm playing with the fully intended usual sound, really happy with the set, and then finally playing the intro to the final song I sounded out of tune, don't have a tuner pedal so I did a quick machine head tweak while playing and the second I did that I realised I hadn't been out of tune at all but my finger had been on the wrong damn string! Next thing I couldn't think which way to tweak the machine head back again so I had to switch off my overdrive and tune by ear in the middle of a song that's all about suspension and horribleness...

I'm a complete idiot, that's all I can say....

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 14, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
Don't worry, shit like that has happened to everyone.  Most people don't even get a chance to play on stage.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 14, 2013, 09:39:49 PM
Try tuning a Floyd on the fly.

I played half a set with a half step out of tune G on a Floyd. I just bent every note on the G into tune with the chords. It was a challenge haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on July 14, 2013, 11:57:17 PM
My Surf band is playing it's first show this coming Saturday. It's at a VW car show and should be a lot of fun. This will be the first time that I've ever played an outside gig.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 15, 2013, 03:06:10 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 14, 2013, 09:39:49 PM
Try tuning a Floyd on the fly.

I played half a set with a half step out of tune G on a Floyd. I just bent every note on the G into tune with the chords. It was a challenge haha

That's what makes it sound like jazz. :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on July 15, 2013, 08:06:30 AM
thanks rager, I needed a 'don't worry' pep talk  :-[ just cant believe I didn't check my amp or pedal settings, had too much else on my mind I guess, lesson learned...

that is a clever technique Sunn! always handy for leads when you realise your slightly out!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 15, 2013, 09:25:43 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on July 15, 2013, 08:06:30 AM
thanks rager, I needed a 'don't worry' pep talk  :-[ just cant believe I didn't check my amp or pedal settings, had too much else on my mind I guess, lesson learned...

That's happened to me a few times; no fun. Now I use a sharpie to mark any settings that are carved in stone. Makes for a quick visual check. You can also lock knobs down with tape.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on July 15, 2013, 11:50:05 AM
theres this tape you can get that is non adhesive...or non gummy I should say.. It wont leave tape residue on your pedals.
the roll I have is called Artists tape and they use it for masking off areas in fine art painting. this is good for taping your knobs down (thats what he said?)
Id replace any chickenhead knobs with the tall thin round ones. chickenheads are easily accidentally turned.

some friends asked me to play lap steel in their hawaiian band. They play tiki parties. sippin on a mai tai, eatin some hawaiian bbq and backing a lovely female singer sounded like a great time so I said yes.
Only problem is Ive never played anything remotely Hawaiian in my life and the gig is a month away.  :D
not only that, ive got to learn an entirely foreign tuning to me(and try to forget using the ones  I am familiar with)...C6th.
Hopefully I can just makes some chimes and some wavey sounding 6th chords and be passable.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 15, 2013, 11:54:22 AM
Hoale.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 15, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
Got a new practice space, half the price of the last one. Dude keeping costs down by filling it up with one and two-person bands.

Meanwhile, my guitar player won't respond to messages (well, he answers about 20%). Doesn't return texts or phone calls. I don't see how I can be in a band with somebody who doesn't wanna talk to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 15, 2013, 09:21:33 PM
^ that's rough



The Scroll performed very well at practice today, much better than I did. This thing is a keeper along with the Duncan Custom.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 16, 2013, 12:04:58 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on July 15, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
Got a new practice space, half the price of the last one. Dude keeping costs down by filling it up with one and two-person bands.

Meanwhile, my guitar player won't respond to messages (well, he answers about 20%). Doesn't return texts or phone calls. I don't see how I can be in a band with somebody who doesn't wanna talk to me.
that sucks.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 16, 2013, 02:27:49 AM
We have a show a week from Tuesday (7/23) so he's picking a bad time to flake.

I have a short list of people I can ask to replace him. I haven't gotten that far yet. Unless something changes, I guess tomorrow I'll start going through the list. Figure out who is available, who would be the best fit, who can step in at the last minute and still be comfortable.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 18, 2013, 04:34:38 AM
hey liquid. I have an idea for empty humbucker holes.

when I worked for the german electronics company which had a mfring plant in Singapore also, we got some really exotic and sort of scary spiders hitching in on crates from there. seriously, tropical shit is likely way poisonous  as not..so....

these things went right to the potting room and got cast in clear resin as paperweights.

I saw this same resin being sold now via art supplies industry vs the traditional mfg supplies sources.  now you can buy smaller containers of that stuff for small jobs.

make a small humbucker sized plate of shiny metal and some rigged sides like masking tape or w/e to give you 1/2 " depth and can be removed or sanded off.

Anyone south of the mason Dixon should be able to go out back and snag a black widow in 5 minutes for you. it would be nice if they could pour it fresh for you too.  but you could get anything you wanted to cast in that resin besides a spider.

faux gems, a baby mouse skeleton (ya, just put a dead baby mouse on an anthill, pick up your cleaned skeleton 2 days later when the ants now ignore its inertness lol), skittles heh. no fuck that, those are really bad for your health. go with red hots

although we have wicked garden spiders up north and those wicked big jet black wolf spiders. those are my idea of boris heh. I would use a wolf spider vs a widow myself.

they have white LED's in mini flashlights for basically free or <$1    =  spider lighting.  be slick and sneak a little on/off light switch and gut the flashlight and put guts in electronics bay.

you can drill the 2 screw holes just like a real pickup for mounting and even use the trim ring heh.


edit: hey chief, do me a favor please:  after you have played the single PUP scroll for a while, tell me if it seems like the sound is um...richer or purer, best words I guess, than multiple PUP setup just set to one PUP, or no difference that you can notice. TIA.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 18, 2013, 04:47:25 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on July 16, 2013, 02:27:49 AM
We have a show a week from Tuesday (7/23) so he's picking a bad time to flake.

I have a short list of people I can ask to replace him. I haven't gotten that far yet. Unless something changes, I guess tomorrow I'll start going through the list. Figure out who is available, who would be the best fit, who can step in at the last minute and still be comfortable.

don't you hate when your "supposed to be fun" hobby puts on the heavy stress. like everyone needs more stress in their lives, especially during relax time. hope it works out in time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 18, 2013, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: jibberish on July 18, 2013, 04:34:38 AM
hey liquid. I have an idea for empty humbucker holes.

when I worked for the german electronics company which had a mfring plant in Singapore also, we got some really exotic and sort of scary spiders hitching in on crates from there. seriously, tropical shit is likely way poisonous  as not..so....

these things went right to the potting room and got cast in clear resin as paperweights.

I saw this same resin being sold now via art supplies industry vs the traditional mfg supplies sources.  now you can buy smaller containers of that stuff for small jobs.

make a small humbucker sized plate of shiny metal and some rigged sides like masking tape or w/e to give you 1/2 " depth and can be removed or sanded off.

Anyone south of the mason Dixon should be able to go out back and snag a black widow in 5 minutes for you. it would be nice if they could pour it fresh for you too.  but you could get anything you wanted to cast in that resin besides a spider.

faux gems, a baby mouse skeleton (ya, just put a dead baby mouse on an anthill, pick up your cleaned skeleton 2 days later when the ants now ignore its inertness lol), skittles heh. no fuck that, those are really bad for your health. go with red hots

although we have wicked garden spiders up north and those wicked big jet black wolf spiders. those are my idea of boris heh. I would use a wolf spider vs a widow myself.

they have white LED's in mini flashlights for basically free or <$1    =  spider lighting.  be slick and sneak a little on/off light switch and gut the flashlight and put guts in electronics bay.

you can drill the 2 screw holes just like a real pickup for mounting and even use the trim ring heh.


edit: hey chief, do me a favor please:  after you have played the single PUP scroll for a while, tell me if it seems like the sound is um...richer or purer, best words I guess, than multiple PUP setup just set to one PUP, or no difference that you can notice. TIA.


Some good ideas here. It's going to just be black for now but I'll consider the object in resin idea.

I'm very used to only having or using one pup in the bridge position. I need the bite for my tone and using the neck in addition just makes it less defined and less tight. The Scroll being Fender length scale vs standard SG/LP provides more clarity for tuning down to B. I'm using those 13-56 Elixer nanowebs which cut out most of the finger noise. They are a bit darker but I'm used to it already.
If I needed a thicker more bassy tone I'd adjust the tone knob and with the amount of distortion I use it sounds almost the same as using a neck pup.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 19, 2013, 12:24:52 PM
Should I go pick up this Peavey VTX classic for $75?  Hisses and pops when it warms up.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 19, 2013, 12:26:15 PM
Yesh, get it. I have one. Rules. Clean the thing and it will be just fine. It's loud as all fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 19, 2013, 12:41:10 PM
Is yours the hybrid or all tube?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 19, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
Hybrid, with phaser. Mine has been cut down into a head
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on July 19, 2013, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: RAGER on July 19, 2013, 12:24:52 PM
Should I go pick up this Peavey VTX classic for $75?  Hisses and pops when it warms up.

sounds like a bargain it prob just needs a clean like Sunn said!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 19, 2013, 01:19:31 PM
I have a call into the guy.  I'll prolly just fix it and sell it.  If it has the footswitch I can maybe get 200-225
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on July 19, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
learning this new tuning is frustrating. I cant even find chords...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 19, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
Dude still hasn't gotten back to me. :-\
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 19, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/164421_10201432151142975_78100509_n.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 19, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on July 19, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
learning this new tuning is frustrating. I cant even find chords...

Does it help to think of C6 as an E-based barre chord at the 8th fret, with pinky down on the A-string 10th fret, "rock n roll" style?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on July 19, 2013, 06:25:38 PM
Quote from: RAGER on July 19, 2013, 12:24:52 PM
Should I go pick up this Peavey VTX classic for $75?  Hisses and pops when it warms up.

Get it.  I have a VTX Head, Tube Power section and it has balls like nothing else and takes pedals great.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on July 19, 2013, 06:40:16 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 19, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/164421_10201432151142975_78100509_n.jpg)

;D

Nice!  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on July 19, 2013, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: RacerX on July 19, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on July 19, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
learning this new tuning is frustrating. I cant even find chords...

Does it help to think of C6 as an E-based barre chord at the 8th fret, with pinky down on the A-string 10th fret, "rock n roll" style?

I dont know what you mean, but remember IM playing with a bar. to get difffernt chords I need to select differnt string groups, not frets.
majors (first three strings) and minors (rmaining three strings)are fine. its everything else i cannot find without looking up.
Its nice that i have a major and  a minor non slanted at every fret but everything else is gonna take some time to relearn.
the chord charts are shitloads of 7th and diminisheds, suspended etc.
Me being poor at theory aint helping either.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 19, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on July 19, 2013, 06:40:16 PM
Nice!  ;D

I have all these unused stickers so..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 19, 2013, 08:23:45 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on July 19, 2013, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: RacerX on July 19, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on July 19, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
learning this new tuning is frustrating. I cant even find chords...

Does it help to think of C6 as an E-based barre chord at the 8th fret, with pinky down on the A-string 10th fret, "rock n roll" style?

I dont know what you mean, but remember IM playing with a bar. to get difffernt chords I need to select differnt string groups, not frets.
majors (first three strings) and minors (rmaining three strings)are fine. its everything else i cannot find without looking up.
Its nice that i have a major and  a minor non slanted at every fret but everything else is gonna take some time to relearn.
the chord charts are shitloads of 7th and diminisheds, suspended etc.
Me being poor at theory aint helping either.

Well, good luck with it, dude.

I always thought of C6 as a Nashville country steel tuning, but I guess it is also the main one used in Hawaiian music. Either way, I have no experience with the tuning, just that one application of the 6th chord, so that's all I have to offer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 21, 2013, 04:57:09 AM
I saw The Fine Constant tonight, wow. Anyone know what's going on with the frets on this guitar? I mean, I can see what's going on but I don't get it, the angles.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 21, 2013, 05:03:40 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/417842_283540358448428_1085590231_n.jpg)

???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 21, 2013, 05:10:36 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanned_Fret_Guitars

Okay now I get it but the pics of them are still tripping me out.

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/t2DP0.jpg)

http://novaxguitars.com/sales/index.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2013, 10:00:52 AM
Fanned frets, for intonation in instruments specially made for different scales. Works wonders.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on July 21, 2013, 01:17:35 PM
^ That pic makes my head hurt.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 21, 2013, 11:11:21 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 21, 2013, 10:00:52 AM
Fanned frets, for intonation in instruments specially made for different scales. Works wonders.

Scales as in notes or scales as in longer neck scales for low notes and shorter neck scales for higher notes?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2013, 11:22:30 PM
Yup, a lot of them are like... 27" low end, 24.75 high end. Tension is more even, intonation is perfect. It's mostly for shredders or people with really wicked ears. Rusty Cooley plays one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 21, 2013, 11:36:53 PM
Looks like something Michael hedges might have played.



Amyhoo. Went and checked oot that peavey. Hunk of shit with bad transistors methinks. Turns out I know the dude from way back.  Still has hi stupid hair band hair and lives in complete squalor. Didn't want to touch anything and couldn't get oot of there fast enough.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 22, 2013, 02:49:52 AM
Moved into a new practice space last week. The air conditioning is broken (during the heatwave, naturally) but management says they're "working on it". I met some other dudes down the hall tonight, who told me their AC has never worked, and it's been installed since May. (Every room has their own unit). So management must have screwed up by not going with central AC, and now they have 30 units to repair, instead of one big one. Or something.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 22, 2013, 09:17:37 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 19, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/164421_10201432151142975_78100509_n.jpg)

;D

haha. I always laugh at that cover pic. those red tights slay me.

but Sabbath is who should be in there for real. good call. and you can keep changing the pic heh.

vol 4 is a cool 2 color thing black and gold.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 22, 2013, 09:19:43 AM
Quote from: RAGER on July 21, 2013, 11:36:53 PM
  Still has hi stupid hair band hair and lives in complete squalor. Didn't want to touch anything and couldn't get oot of there fast enough.

haha you been hanging around with me too much. that would be me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on July 22, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
Those VTM's are awesome.

As much as I like my Marshall, I think if an OTR80 pops up near me I will probably sell my Marshall and get the OTR80.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 22, 2013, 12:29:31 PM
If you;'re referring to me, that amp was a VTX Classic 2x12 combo early to mid 80's.  I guess the first gen. were all tube.  This is a hybrid with a solid state pre.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on July 22, 2013, 06:17:45 PM
Quote from: RAGER on July 22, 2013, 12:29:31 PM
If you;'re referring to me, that amp was a VTX Classic 2x12 combo early to mid 80's.  I guess the first gen. were all tube.  This is a hybrid with a solid state pre.

Those a great amps, very clean but take pedals well and have loads of low end to spare.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 22, 2013, 06:33:55 PM
Quote from: jibberish on July 22, 2013, 09:17:37 AM
haha. I always laugh at that cover pic. those red tights slay me.

but Sabbath is who should be in there for real. good call. and you can keep changing the pic heh.

My pick gets dangerously close to his balls  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2013, 02:39:24 AM
I just sold a vintage Gibson zebra "Sonex 180 deluxe" pup on ebay for $45, did I rape myself? Kinda need cash ASAP.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on July 24, 2013, 08:47:01 PM
Was it a T Top pup?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on July 24, 2013, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2013, 02:39:24 AM
I just sold a vintage Gibson zebra "Sonex 180 deluxe" pup on ebay for $45, did I rape myself? Kinda need cash ASAP.

Was it consensual?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2013, 11:25:35 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on July 24, 2013, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2013, 02:39:24 AM
I just sold a vintage Gibson zebra "Sonex 180 deluxe" pup on ebay for $45, did I rape myself? Kinda need cash ASAP.

Was it consensual?

I don't know, I feel kinda dazed and a bit sore.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 25, 2013, 12:06:18 AM
How does a "10pm" show change to 9 and then 8? Nobody falls for that anymore. We probably won't even be there by 8. Not a big deal but I'm puzzled.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 25, 2013, 02:20:05 AM
There's a box with a new air conditioner in my practice space. :)

It's not installed yet.  :(


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 25, 2013, 07:50:26 AM
stalling getting busy for the day..kind of laughing, feeling bratty "I don wAAAAnnna, it feels worky ickeeeeeeee out there" then I thought about a tweeny doing their obnoxious as all hell tweeny whiner thing like when she gets told no, any time I guess heh.

humanoid synthesizer is what I hear. let me explain.

First she generates a pure whine wave at that perfect frequency that could shatter foam rubber, at +dB of course.
The wave goes through the "WHY" filter, which is controlled by the A Am S S filter (pretty standard on all brands of "lil bich" models)
OH! yes the filter:  A Am S S filter stands for: Attack, Attack more, Screeverb, Sustain
finally it is modulated by the LFFO. this would be the Low Frequency Footstomp Oscillator

ok performance notes:
hit the trigger "I said NO" hahaha
the ehhh builds through the first attack up to why filter threshold. why filter cuts in and "Attack more" filter kicks in. sustain set to max, self oscillating.....scree filter about 1/3, this wasn't a serious issue...
foot stomp about 2hZ to break the whyyyyyyyyyy up real nice...AAAAAAAAND ACTION!

imagine that over thee olde "eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhh WWWHYYYYYYY-I -I-I-I-I-I-I-I-eeeee-eeeeee-screeeeee" and so on and so forth.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 25, 2013, 12:46:22 PM
Ha! Awesome


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 27, 2013, 04:34:09 AM
It's fucking awesome to set up a show with 2 bands you really like. My band had some technical difficulties but it was still a great night.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 27, 2013, 10:05:01 PM
Mercian is now Orogen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQWKHFhn0Ns

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Orogen-ex-Mercian/421806417874551
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 27, 2013, 11:06:17 PM
I like that name better. What does Orogen mean/where does that come from?

(I looked it up, sounds good)

QuoteThe word "orogeny" comes from the Greek (oros for "mountain" plus genesis for "creation" or "origin"),[1] and it is the primary mechanism by which mountains are built on continents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orogeny (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orogeny)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on July 28, 2013, 01:51:46 AM
My band is about a week out from our first show, which we'll be opening for Low Pan. So I'm setting up a facebook and twitter account as I type this.
I know jack shit about twitter but apparently it's one of those things that you "need" nowadays.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 28, 2013, 04:51:54 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on July 27, 2013, 11:06:17 PM
I like that name better. What does Orogen mean/where does that come from?

(I looked it up, sounds good)

QuoteThe word "orogeny" comes from the Greek (oros for "mountain" plus genesis for "creation" or "origin"),[1] and it is the primary mechanism by which mountains are built on continents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orogeny (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orogeny)

Orogen is basically the material that is pushed up when tectonic plates fold or push against one another. Kinda means mountain and origin like you pasted. It's a weird word for a band name but I think it will suit us plus as far as I know it isn't in use. There is an Orogeny but I'm not too worried about that. We may have just taken the last simple one word band name.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 28, 2013, 08:57:50 PM
hades mining co. just had the first jam with our new drummer. it was awesome. the chemistry was immediate. ive known the dude for awhile but never jammed with him. he was in another grind band. then they broke up and I made the offer to jam. so far, so good..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 03, 2013, 09:08:52 PM
I don't really get a callus on my pointer finger from playing. Been fooling around with some new riffs and leads the past few days that are more intense on my pointer finger and towards the end of my session today(mostly playing the same riffs and leads over and over and over trying to get the muscle memory set) I experienced some pretty bad nerve pain. It's a bit more dull now to the touch but is still there. Arg. This is probably partly due to raising my action up for clearer tone and to clear a couple spots that evidently need  fret filing. I need to map out said frets, find the best tech in town, and have them work their magic. When I got this guitar back from the neck straightener dude I thought ha, finally I've got a guitar that plays perfectly but little by little I kept raising the action. I'm a fucking winner when it comes to action on a guitar, a real and true winner.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 04, 2013, 01:38:18 PM
Nigel and the JCM900 that goes to 20

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on August 06, 2013, 11:34:49 PM
Oh, shit.  I'm finally getting the hang of working with my new software...the BFD2 Drums Deluxe kit (the one recorded by Albini) sounds amazing.  I'm still wading my way through all of the kits, custom kit-pieces, and ways to tweak the sound of all of them.  Sequencing drums is really tedious, but if you spend the time...very rewarding.  I'm gonna re-record some of my old stuff and finally add new parts to make them complete songs instead of half-assed ideas.  A lot of work yet to come...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 08, 2013, 12:17:40 AM
my longest running band. formed in 1999. HADES MINING Co. Lo Fi obscure crapcore from Rochester NY . 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on August 08, 2013, 03:45:37 AM
Since my current band is a bit lost it seems, I asked a drummer who's band is sorta in the same situation (only his band has played shows already, mine hasn't), if he wanted to jam. He was all stoked so we're gonna have a jam after my fucking summer exams. Mid september probably. Fuck, that's a long way.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 08, 2013, 06:48:53 AM
ba has fun toys. that is all.

ok I lied.  there's more.   after seeing yes, I have decided that keyboards do indeed still fucking rule. 
the new "jon Anderson" really is john something, and even wore the jon Anderson shirt that looks like he stole it from his lil sis.
that guy kicked major ass.  yes did very well adding him to replace jon
steve howe is a total trip to watch, esp on those solo type pieces.
they played the yes album, then going for the one album, then thee awesome close to the edge album..encore was roundabout...of course.
first time at cain park.  beautiful venue.  I will see more shows there for sure.
shit like that stokes me up to make big music heh.
need to look into chris squire's crazy 3 neck bass and why he used it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 08, 2013, 02:20:34 PM
Cool. I saw Yes 3 times about 10 years ago and they blew my mind each time and played 98% '70s material. 2 of these shows were with Rick Wakeman and Jon was with them for all 3. A few years after that period Jon got sick so they got this new guy(who I believe is from a Canadian Yes tribute). What I don't know is why Jon didn't come back after he got well. I heard years ago that they just didn't invite him back which seems pretty fucking weird but there is probably more to the story. Anyone know the real deal on this?

Anyway, one of the best bands of all time and on my top 3.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 08, 2013, 02:41:11 PM
nice. I really missed out on some stuff through the 90's being 110% corporate boy. like a whole uber straight, all biz, lifestyle for 10 years. duh-me, anyway...

I only saw them once before. in like 77, and I would guess touring the going for the one album(I was wasted, certain details escape me). but wakeman was back, so it was definitely post-moraz/relayer.  they were great.

the wild thing was Donovan was the warmup act..this was in Jackson coliseum, Jackson MS.   I never saw a synchronized spark it up like that day when they killed the lights and yes started.  the whole placed sparked. there were trains of joints just going up and down the rows nonstop until everyone was too baked to keep passing. we all fed all ours into the machine.

truly a super pro band. even my buddy was saying "wait. THIS IS YES!! RIGHT THERE!!!RIGHT!....THERE!"
my son went too. he is a total close to the edge fan. makes me proud [symbolic tear wipe]

edit: I wonder if jon is just too old and too many shows to have the really strong voice of yore. this new john is phenomenal and younger. old instrument players seem to just get smoother and smoother, but old vocalists, IMO, get the rob halford syndrome. ripper smokes halford and they should get him back too
total conjecture tho.. I have no idea, just that this new guy slays.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 08, 2013, 03:37:26 PM
Whoa '77? Nice! I was brewing in my mom that year haha.

I'm not sure what the '90s shows were like but by the time I saw them in the early Dumbya years they were full on into doing the retro thing thankfully. At one point I owned all of their albums but only got into Drama and back.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 09, 2013, 02:15:16 AM
Treble boosters! I'm really into this Screaming Bird treble booster. I guess a lot of people hate the Screaming Bird? Adds raunch (and cuts a little low end). With nothing else added, it sounds like Captain Beefheart's guitars (Zoot Horn Rollo or whoever). Not stoner rock-related, but whatever.

No experience with other treble boosters, but I'm curious now. Anybody got a treble booster on their board?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 09, 2013, 08:52:01 AM
idk if this is of interest, but a really nice tour picture diary by tony Levin.

http://www.papabear.com/tours/pg12/pg12_1.htm (http://www.papabear.com/tours/pg12/pg12_1.htm)

i was merely looking to find that bass in these videos, which evidently is a "chapman stick" which i can now learn more about.
these 2 videos showcase what 4 superstars combined can do.  cant touch this shit.
when i saw them, i walked out schooled by the bass. he has bass lines, countermelodies, weird sounds, all at once on that stick.
i watch these 2 videos over and over...


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on August 09, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
^^^ Levin is amazing. I only saw him live once, as part of the Crimson double-trio, but he was top-notch.

Quote from: Lumpy on August 09, 2013, 02:15:16 AM
Treble boosters! I'm really into this Screaming Bird treble booster. I guess a lot of people hate the Screaming Bird? Adds raunch (and cuts a little low end). With nothing else added, it sounds like Captain Beefheart's guitars (Zoot Horn Rollo or whoever). Not stoner rock-related, but whatever.

No experience with other treble boosters, but I'm curious now. Anybody got a treble booster on their board?

My favorite is, of all things, Run Off Groove's 'May Queen' : http://www.runoffgroove.com/mayqueen.html (http://www.runoffgroove.com/mayqueen.html)

It's a project, but it just sounds great... I broke it and should probably build another one.  I also built a germanium Rangemaster clone a while ago that, conversely, never sounded right to me, and I ended up cannibalizing for parts. But maybe I'll spend the weekend building and comparing treble boosters - the Screaming Bird is just an LBP-1 with teensy input and output caps, if memory serves. Treble booster shootout!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 09, 2013, 04:19:06 PM
Keepin' that Taylor dry...

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on August 09, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
I wanted him the fall almost the whole time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on August 09, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
first gig with the hawaiian band is tomorrow at a private party. got damn they sound fucking amazing. its been really fun  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 09, 2013, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: Jake on August 09, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
I wanted him the fall almost the whole time.

Unfortunately for us, his wakeboarding talent eclispes his musical talent.

Quote from: Chovie D on August 09, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
first gig with the hawaiian band is tomorrow at a private party. got damn they sound fucking amazing. its been really fun  ;D

So you figured out the C6 thing?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on August 09, 2013, 06:35:22 PM
enought to fake it. Im still pretty lost techinically, it would be hard to improvise anything  good on this tuning for me or sit in on a song i didnt know yet. but ive memorized the melody lines I need to play and the chords for the songs so i am feelin confident enough. mai tai's ahoy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on August 09, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
FUCKING AWESOME ;D.  I am now looking at two Traynor Bass Masters.  Pics at 11.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 10, 2013, 12:25:53 AM
Quote from: Chovie D on August 09, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
first gig with the hawaiian band is tomorrow at a private party. got damn they sound fucking amazing. its been really fun  ;D

A band that girls might like, what a crazy concept.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 10, 2013, 01:25:34 PM
I am sooo super diggin my reel to reel amp.  Fucking love it.  If I get some time I'll try to record a little demo of it.  It overdrives so easy.  I just pretty much dime it and a Boss Super Overdrive just clicked on is enough to get kill tones.  I have a Carbon Copy in line also.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 10, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
A friend of mine used to use a cassette deck as a hillbilly-style distortion box. He said it sounded awesome.  (a 'field recorder', not a home stereo unit).

I still think you should see if you can somehow engage (and offset?) the tape heads, to get a built-in tape delay. I don't know if that's even possible though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 10, 2013, 10:11:41 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on August 10, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
A friend of mine used to use a cassette deck as a hillbilly-style distortion box. He said it sounded awesome.  (a 'field recorder', not a home stereo unit).

I still think you should see if you can somehow engage (and offset?) the tape heads, to get a built-in tape delay. I don't know if that's even possible though.

seriously talk to MJS about doing fucked up effects with tape decks.

unfortunately, if it isn't a 3 head deck, the head EITHER reads or writes.  so you cant have a continuous writing and reading simultaneously to get a delay recorded and played simultaneously. if you had a read and write head, which would be a 3-head deck, then adjyusting delay time is done via the size of the loop between the write head and the read head.  {that little second head is the erase head on a std 2-head deck btw)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 11, 2013, 12:20:08 AM
Aha! Good to know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on August 11, 2013, 10:36:44 PM
Picked up this desk from a CraigsList ad today, to accommodate my new iMac and foray into recording music again.  Later on, I'll have a setup where the whole deal is in a closet of mine, and the monitors will be up on shelves in the corners, slightly above ear-level.  But that's my only complaint for now...there's no room for them to fit up on the desk.

Still getting all of my software and shit set up properly, and have started sequencing drum tracks.  Took my SG to GuitarCenter to get re-strung and have the intonation adjusted properly.  My synth software is up and running, but I'm gonna read up on the manual again to try to learn how to get more customized sounds than their presets (although they have some great presets).  Also working on downloading new plug-ins; will hopefully find a reverse noise gate so I can re-record 'Antimatter' to my liking.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 11, 2013, 10:58:18 PM
i'll wait till you're done before I ask to have it, so ...git er done!!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 12, 2013, 12:11:40 AM
Selling the pro tools 9 software I bought few months back. After the breakup I no longer have a computer to install it on, and with my income I won't for a very long time.

On a related note, looking for musical work but very slow going, which troubles me deeply. Bills don't pay themselves and I don't like the idea of playing in a band I don't believe in to cover my living expenses, which are as cheap as you can get and not be living in a box behind a dumpster.

But I've been getting out there and trying to network, which has been awesome. Great music, reconnecting with friends and musical family.

But fucking hell, I wish I was having as good of luck finding work as I am with the ladies. No complaints there... But what little money I have coming in aint gonna last long.




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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 12, 2013, 12:50:22 AM
Quote from: Danny G on August 12, 2013, 12:11:40 AM
Selling the pro tools 9 software I bought few months back. After the breakup I no longer have a computer to install it on, and with my income I won't for a very long time.

On a related note, looking for musical work but very slow going, which troubles me deeply. Bills don't pay themselves and I don't like the idea of playing in a band I don't believe in to cover my living expenses, which are as cheap as you can get and not be living in a box behind a dumpster.

But I've been getting out there and trying to network, which has been awesome. Great music, reconnecting with friends and musical family.

But fucking hell, I wish I was having as good of luck finding work as I am with the ladies. No complaints there... But what little money I have coming in aint gonna last long.




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what is the system requirements for that pro tools version?  outside chance i can help you out.  can it run on dualcore processor, 64bit win with 4gig of RAM?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 12, 2013, 12:54:57 AM
still looking for a usb audio interface to go to a very good home,. all would approve. please pm me if you know of a "don't wanner" laying around somewhere
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on August 12, 2013, 01:03:14 AM
Mass Driver had it's first show last Monday opening for Lo Pan. Things went decent and we had a good time.

Some pics
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 12, 2013, 02:12:50 AM
Re: pro tools

Heck I dunno. It's 9 with a free upgrade to 10. According to GC guy who sold it to me, we would have had to soup up operating system and memory of the now ex's iMac (2009 model), glad now we didn't have the cash to do that.

One of the exotic jungle cat systems and something about 6gb for memory.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 12, 2013, 08:57:48 AM
Quote from: Danny G on August 12, 2013, 02:12:50 AM
Re: pro tools

Heck I dunno. It's 9 with a free upgrade to 10. According to GC guy who sold it to me, we would have had to soup up operating system and memory of the now ex's iMac (2009 model), glad now we didn't have the cash to do that.

One of the exotic jungle cat systems and something about 6gb for memory.


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ok, that is enough of an answer for me to say no I don't want to buy it. that is pretty hi end. thx chief.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Headshrinker on August 12, 2013, 09:18:54 AM
Our guitarman's amp (a Matchless tube combo, revised a year ago, and outfitted with a new power supply) is causing trouble:

On day one, it functioned normally (for about three hours in a row). On day two, after 40 minutes of playing, it shut itself down. We turned it off, disconnected everything, and replaced the fuse. When we switched it on, it seemed to power up. But when we switched the standby-button to operate, it went down again.

We replaced the fuse, put the amp on 'operate', reconnected the power cable and switched it on. The amp went on, but as soon as we inserted the guitar jack, it autoshut down again.

I realise that this can have many causes, but how would you go about diagnostics?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on August 12, 2013, 10:01:56 AM
Check valves first. Order of most likely to fail: Rectifier, power, cathode follower (preamp) other preamp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Headshrinker on August 12, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
Cheers, Mr. Foxen. I'll tell GuitarMan to work from there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 13, 2013, 03:30:33 AM
2 minutes into this I can't tell if it's awesome or horrible.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 13, 2013, 04:12:32 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 13, 2013, 03:30:33 AM
2 minutes into this I can't tell if it's awesome or horrible.



his little guitar riff at 3:38 is cool.     you actually ask a really solid question.  skill/composition/tone are all most excellent. it seems well rehearsed since it is all over the map.

the question occurs just sitting there wondering what type of music is being played.  I hear basically everything.    it started with jazz infected country or something, then did little progressive and poppy and rock and just weird stuff.  sort of true fusion fusion, but it goes to fusion more than anything else I think  I think it is interesting. would I watch this once a week like king crimson...no. it comes off as a well orchestrated wank. ie novelty song.

there is another band something with McGee or w/e close in its name my son mentioned the other day. I cant remember, I have to call him. they would be the perfect warmup band to KC, and I don't think I have ever said that about any band before.
I really appreciate how nice quality the video part is too. very nice full screen.

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BA check this thread out on some bb. read the whole thing. he was trying to clean out some vocals and was looking for a reverse noise gate. at first no one understood and they first explained a noise gate, then, OH you want serious compression and a super hard cutoff limiter, heh.
the dude was very patient , then it got to those karaoke-izers that are supposed to remove vocals. finally he figured it out himself heh. awesome thread when you follow the thought pattern.

so here is my take:
1)-noise gate everything you want to keep. in other words set the threshold of the noisegate where it cuts the reverbed drums off right after the hit fades. I guess you want as close as that initial transient "tick" as you can get. samples make this possible too I think. a real drummer couldnt hug the threshold without dipping volume and gating one of the attacks.
2)-save this heavily gated track
3) invert this heavily gated track. now your surviving, non-gated(ie audible) drum attacks have their phase reversed
4) combine this phase reversed, gated track with a copy of the original.
5)if it works out, the phase reversed drum hits cancel the original ones. as soon as the phase reversed track hits the gated(silenced) parts, there is no cancellation and only the original track material BELOW the gate threshold is still there.

make sense?  I love when shit works out nice with common stuff. hats off to that rye guy in that thread heh.

edit: oh shit,
[james woods voice]
how about linking the thread there ace.
[/james woods voice]

http://www.studiotrax.net/forums/showthread.php?s=3269a7fa984a2bbc93c3a80bd7795ec3&t=49702&page=2 (http://www.studiotrax.net/forums/showthread.php?s=3269a7fa984a2bbc93c3a80bd7795ec3&t=49702&page=2)

more edits: whoah whoah WHOAH! you have synth drums. I believe you can drum like drummer and dial up the volume of all hits to always exceed a threshold when it plays a hit sample. I think you actually have the best setup to human drum reverse noise gate drums, is what im saying. nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 13, 2013, 05:42:30 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 13, 2013, 03:30:33 AM
2 minutes into this I can't tell if it's awesome or horrible.



After only 4 minutes, I'd say that they are good musicians, with bad taste. Since they call their band The Aristocrats, maybe they know that?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lip on August 13, 2013, 07:41:03 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 13, 2013, 03:30:33 AM
2 minutes into this I can't tell if it's awesome or horrible.



I cant take those effects on the bass....lol
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on August 13, 2013, 09:21:47 AM
reminds me of danny gattons Redneck Jazz Explosion from the 70's and i can tell thse guys have heard that also.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 13, 2013, 09:26:37 AM
It reminds me even more of the Dixie Dregs.



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on August 13, 2013, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: Lip on August 13, 2013, 07:41:03 AM
I cant take those effects on the bass....lol

If you're curious about what you hate: http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/08/09/rigged-bassist-bryan-beller-the-aristocrats-dethklok-joe-satriani-steve-vai/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2013/08/09/rigged-bassist-bryan-beller-the-aristocrats-dethklok-joe-satriani-steve-vai/)

Danny Gatton is such a monster. I love that he's so closely associated with the Tele but played just as mean on a Paul.

Why hasn't anyone made a real documentary on Gatton yet? Great player, sad story.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on August 13, 2013, 09:57:20 AM
Quote from: xayk on August 13, 2013, 09:39:39 AM

Danny Gatton is such a monster. I love that he's so closely associated with the Tele but played just as mean on a Paul. Why hasn't anyone made a real documentary on Gatton yet? Great player, sad story.


Agreed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on August 13, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
good call on the dreggs...I guess there was this whole kind of country fusion thing going on back then that I was oblivious too.

Ive never read this, but there is this book on gatton. amazing player for sure.
http://www.amazon.com/Unfinished-Business-Times-Danny-Gatton/dp/087930748X (http://www.amazon.com/Unfinished-Business-Times-Danny-Gatton/dp/087930748X)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 13, 2013, 12:26:21 PM
The Dregs are weird. Some stuff has heavy country/bluegrass influence; other stuff is more rockin'/jazzy/classically influenced. They are definitely one of my favorite fusion bands of all time.

Also, I'd love to have Steve Morse's FrankenTele; that axe sounds BADASS.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on August 13, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
Quit one of my bands today.  It's for the best- the snail's pace progress and general apathy of all the members was driving me insane, because we could be SO good when we'd get our shit together.  At least now I don't have to wonder who's not gonna show up for practice or come up with some lame story about blahblahblahblah.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on August 13, 2013, 07:38:30 PM
not mico de noche is it? I really like what you guys do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on August 13, 2013, 09:00:11 PM
yep- putting a fork in at least this version of the band.  We've been through so many different configurations over the past 12 years, it won't surprise me if me & the other main dude get it going again in some fashion at some point, but not likely with the other dudes in the current config.

bummer- i'd like to do a last show with this line up but I doubt that'll happen; if it did, not too many would care anyway
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on August 13, 2013, 09:40:13 PM
Sorry to hear that, 12 years is a long haul, resentments can build. Best of luck with whatever you do next. Sorry I didn't get to see you guys, my own fault tho....cheers
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on August 13, 2013, 10:12:27 PM
Thanks man, we'll see what happens next- it's always something.....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 14, 2013, 01:28:36 AM
How to coil cables so they unwind without kinks

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on August 14, 2013, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on August 14, 2013, 01:28:36 AM
How to coil cables so they unwind without kinks



Blows my mind how much trouble some people can have with this. I've had the same guitar cables (plus a few new ones) through a few decades. Why? Proper care! Meanwhile I've seen more than a few bandmates and contemporaries wind cables over their forearm and have to replace every few months. They blame shitty cables. Sure!

Shit, it would not surprise me if I have wound more cable than anyone here. Not trying to boast, just acknowledging that winding cable has actually occupied a considerable part of the last 15 years of my life.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 14, 2013, 03:24:48 AM
Quote from: Chovie D on August 13, 2013, 09:21:47 AM
reminds me of danny gattons Redneck Jazz Explosion from the 70's and i can tell thse guys have heard that also.


Whoa, this is turbo '70s country rock. I like it. Never heard these guys before.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 14, 2013, 03:35:17 AM
Quote from: RacerX on August 13, 2013, 09:26:37 AM
It reminds me even more of the Dixie Dregs.





Countrified Wino sitting in for John McLaughlin  ;D

This is good shit. Too much music!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 15, 2013, 09:16:34 PM
Chovie oughtta did this one:



Serious chicken pickin'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2013, 12:15:52 AM
Somebody's using my amps at the new practice space, or diddling with them. Controls are not where I leave them (and I cover the front face with lids). Who do I kill?

Almost bought a Fender American Standard PBass on Ebay tonight, but the seller couldn't specify build date ("2008 I think?"). Quick check of serial numbers was inconclusive, between 2007 and 2008. Apparently, quality shot up starting in 2008. So if anybody is looking to buy an American Standard Precision, get one built after 2008.

I've got a Japanese P Bass, it's a nice instrument but to straighten the neck, truss rod access requires removing the neck (or loosening the screws almost all the way). I don't wanna do that twice a year --  to make a long story short the weather fluctuations in NYC mean that a setup is warranted twice a year, I would guess. I would rather sell this bass to somebody who does their own setups, and doesn't mind (or enjoys) working on their own instruments. It's black/black with a maple neck, upgraded pickups, nice neck, classic PBass sound. Strung with flatwounds. Gonna cross-post this in the Sale thread, gotta check my purchase price (I bought it used, myself) but my price will be less.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 19, 2013, 02:52:21 AM
Quote from: neighbor664 on August 14, 2013, 01:56:45 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on August 14, 2013, 01:28:36 AM
How to coil cables so they unwind without kinks



Blows my mind how much trouble some people can have with this. I've had the same guitar cables (plus a few new ones) through a few decades. Why? Proper care! Meanwhile I've seen more than a few bandmates and contemporaries wind cables over their forearm and have to replace every few months. They blame shitty cables. Sure!

Shit, it would not surprise me if I have wound more cable than anyone here. Not trying to boast, just acknowledging that winding cable has actually occupied a considerable part of the last 15 years of my life.

I hear ya, most of my cables are over a decade old.  only thing that kills them is when I step on them while I'm playing and it breaks the plug but that's an easy fix with a soldering iron.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lip on August 19, 2013, 09:47:40 AM
Quote from: RacerX on August 13, 2013, 09:26:37 AM
It reminds me even more of the Dixie Dregs.




So GDed great!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 22, 2013, 05:58:00 AM
"So has your band been playing shows lately?"

(holy shit I've invited you to every one of our shows via Facebook! not that I care if you go but wow)

"Yeah."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on August 24, 2013, 10:32:41 AM
Getting ready to head out to GC for the 2nd free class on home recording.  Last week was pretty basic, but I did learn a few things...pretty cool that they do this for free.  We're gonna be discussing plug-ins today, and the use of various effects. 

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 24, 2013, 02:58:41 PM
Portable cassette player with speaker held near my pickup with the pitch wheel shifted down through my rig. From the Hammer film Taste the Blood of Dracula.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/mercianband/hark-yee-slowed-cassette[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 24, 2013, 03:11:38 PM
New riffs and a lead idea for a song, it's a bit sloppy. We are in the process of mixing our album but are itching to write new stuff.

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/mercianband/new-riff-ideas[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 25, 2013, 12:07:36 AM
Soundcloud links don't show up for me here (or on Facebook)...

This is kinda weird? Ice Cube Sustain Coupler for Fender amps.

QuoteJHD Sustain Coupler
If you have a Fender amp. ( Twin Reverb , Deluxe , Deville etc...) that has a reverb tank, you can disconnect the reverb, install this in the in/out jacks and this will overdrive your amp. You can use your reverb controls on your amp to control how much overdrive you want. For use only with Pre- 1978 amps

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/J-H-D-Ice-Cube-Sustain-Coupler-Fender-Deluxe-Twin-Vintage-Amp-overdrive-/00/s/NTA1WDY1Ng==/z/6QQAAOxyHWJSGS9i/$(KGrHqFHJE!FIBZTB-edBSGS9iVNW!~~60_3.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/J-H-D-Ice-Cube-Sustain-Coupler-Fender-Deluxe-Twin-Vintage-Amp-overdrive-/00/s/NDgxWDU2MQ==/z/cA4AAMXQ6DBSGS9a/$T2eC16VHJHwFG04V)6(LBSGS9,!7+w~~60_3.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/J-H-D-Ice-Cube-Sustain-Coupler-Fender-Deluxe-Twin-Vintage-Amp-overdrive-/121164802828 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/J-H-D-Ice-Cube-Sustain-Coupler-Fender-Deluxe-Twin-Vintage-Amp-overdrive-/121164802828)

I have a Fender style amp (Plush) where a previous owner disabled the reverb to convert it to an overdrive mode - they drilled through the face plate and added an extra knob. This Ice Cube device might have been much easier, and kept the amp in original condition (?)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on August 25, 2013, 01:03:04 AM
I'm sure Chris Spencer would love a couple of those.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on August 25, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
I think I might sell my Mock in a few months. Just have not been able to really bond with it. I figure if the upgrades I plan to put in (Vintage Dimarzio Dual Sounds, electronics, nut) do not do it justice, then it goes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2013, 12:43:02 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on August 25, 2013, 12:07:36 AM
Soundcloud links don't show up for me here (or on Facebook)...

I don't know about Facebook but on here they take 5 to 10 seconds to appear for me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on August 26, 2013, 06:35:51 AM
Smokey that hammer sample through the pick ups is awesome! The song idea sounds epic!

We had our third last practise before recording the album last night, it didn't go too well and for the first time I'm starting to feel panic, I wish we'd booked the studio when we were mostly ready instead of months in advance just guessing that we'd be ready, I don't want to have to cancel as our engineer will lose work that he could have had and he gave us a discount for being one of the first to book, also we have a label getting things rolling to release before the end of the year, I don't wanna mess him around. The only problem is that we're living over 2 hours apart from our drummer, we're only just now getting to play the final 3 songs with him, I realised last night and this morning listening over the recordings from the practise that some of it is just all wrong,.....last night I told my drummer that something hadnt worked at all and he just went "naahhh!!!" at me and there was no more talk of it, I just said lets move onto another song,...when I listened over it this morning it was just not right, this is hard, 2 more practises to go...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Headshrinker on August 26, 2013, 08:26:49 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on August 26, 2013, 06:35:51 AMsome of it is just all wrong

What's wrong? The drum parts? Tempo, 'feel', breaks?

Have you, as a band, dealt with such differences in perception before?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on August 26, 2013, 12:36:55 PM
He's an excellent drummer, very sludge influenced, it's been great up to now he's really brought the songs alive, but I guess the songs we're moving on to now are a bit different, there was a lot of 'over-drumming', very busy, lots of fills and offbeats where we just need something more primitive, it just wasn't clicking as usual and I don't think I'd be too bothered but we have 2 more practises before recording and his response to me saying that something didn't work was "naaah!", I listened over it this morning and the over drumming left the riff behind completely...

Obviously we'll sort through it but its stressing me out now so close to recording...... 2 practises!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 26, 2013, 12:59:22 PM
Don't stress, you have time to work it out. Confer with your bassist to get on the same page, maybe get him/her to broach the topic during the next practice. Then, you chime in with agreement. "Could we try it like that?" and of course everyone will agree it works better.

Worst case scenario, you enlist the producer to handle it during the session.

Overplaying is a real pain in the ass. You don't have to prove your musical skills every moment, especially in a genre context like this...

Think positive - I bet your sessions will turn out great.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on August 26, 2013, 01:44:09 PM
JemDooM, I've had that problem over and over again throughout the last decade. I've started sludge bands about 5 times and none of them have ever even gotten through the demo phase. Every drummer I find ends up complaining that they're bored and the songs are too slow, when I tell them to pull back and play more simply to accent the riffs. I can never figure out how all these guys who claim to love sludge volunteer to play drums in a sludge band and complain about the drums being to simple.

The only ones I've ever been able to make stick are the bands where the drums play more than the riffs I'm doing on bass. When I was in my early 20s in punk bands I used to overplay on bass like crazy, because I was bored. Now I'm cool with just holding down the low end and laying a solid foundation, picking my places to do fills very carefully and tastefully, in service of the song. It's still hard, sometimes I want to play some cool bass fills and fill up the space and I have to cut them out because it's not making the song worse, it's just not making it better. It's hard to jam when people care more about entertaining themselves on their instrument than serving what sounds good in the song.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on August 26, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
Thanks for the empathy and encouragement guys it's good to know we've all got somewhere to vent while we're making music, it's supposed to be fun but hell it can be stressful!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 26, 2013, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on August 26, 2013, 01:44:09 PM
JemDooM, I've had that problem over and over again throughout the last decade. I've started sludge bands about 5 times and none of them have ever even gotten through the demo phase. Every drummer I find ends up complaining that they're bored and the songs are too slow, when I tell them to pull back and play more simply to accent the riffs. I can never figure out how all these guys who claim to love sludge volunteer to play drums in a sludge band and complain about the drums being to simple.

The only ones I've ever been able to make stick are the bands where the drums play more than the riffs I'm doing on bass. When I was in my early 20s in punk bands I used to overplay on bass like crazy, because I was bored. Now I'm cool with just holding down the low end and laying a solid foundation, picking my places to do fills very carefully and tastefully, in service of the song. It's still hard, sometimes I want to play some cool bass fills and fill up the space and I have to cut them out because it's not making the song worse, it's just not making it better. It's hard to jam when people care more about entertaining themselves on their instrument than serving what sounds good in the song.

That is a big problem, so many drummers just want to go ape shit! instead of playing what is right for the song.  The drummers who have lasted for me to have been in bands where they could just go fucking nutz every song LOL  No wonder it's so hard getting a good stoner band together.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
My 2 cents- Don't try to make anyone play a certain way. They'll either work out or they won't. You could demand he back off but more than likely he's just going to get pissed and tell you he doesn't need anyone telling him how to play. Could just kick him out and record everything to a click and have a future drummer go in and record later.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2013, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on August 26, 2013, 06:35:51 AM
Smokey that hammer sample through the pick ups is awesome! The song idea sounds epic!

Thanks for the feedback. It kind of fits in too much with the currently raging occult/satanic rock trend only we are much more a metal band than some sort of occult rock band so I want to use it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on August 26, 2013, 07:10:48 PM
regarding Jems drummer:

fucking drummers  :D

Im playing with this female singer songerwriter. The music is sweet ballads with  quiet guitars. out of nowhere This drummer comes in with these HUGE Bonham tom fills.

I stopped playing because I thought he was kidding. but he was like "what?". Im like "You are kidding right?"  and he's all "huh?"  :D
I calmly explained that a quiet ballad wasnt the time for "when the levy breaks", at which point he threw a temper tantrum and our friendship was never really the same.

\wtf?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on August 26, 2013, 09:29:40 PM
Was it like this?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Headshrinker on August 27, 2013, 03:03:46 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on August 26, 2013, 12:36:55 PM'over-drumming'

Personally, I don't know what that is, given that I lack the skills to over-drum. But I do like my fills, here and there. And when they are technically demanding, they don't have to be 'intrusive' (loud, long, often). Then I'd focus on getting those right, instead of 'trying' stuff throughout the entire song.

What amount of (over-)drumming fits the music, is a matter of taste I guess. It helps if my bandmates tell me which drum parts they like, to build confidence and find a common approach.

Perhaps your drummer will 'back off' a bit in the studio. Many musicians find it intimidating to be recorded and will play it safe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 27, 2013, 06:47:49 PM
Quote from: Headshrinker

Perhaps your drummer will 'back off' a bit in the studio. Many musicians find it intimidating to be recorded and will play it safe.
/quote]

But perhaps not. Players that don't take well to suggestions or constructive criticism will sometimes enter the studio and think "now's my chance" and do the opposite of holding back, heh


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eddiefive10 on August 28, 2013, 08:21:26 AM
Buy your drummer a copy of Back in Black, tell him to study how the drummer stays in the pocket and lays the foundation, sorry my only an best advice. I've had the pleasure of working with a drummer for 10 years who originally was a beast for doom and slowly turned into a solid heavy rock drummer, without forgetting how to play doom overall a win win for me
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 28, 2013, 08:17:07 PM
My new criteria for picking a drummer is this:  I ask them to play me something light then something heavy.  I listen to see if they keep the overall volume of their kit balanced between the kick and the snare and cymbals.  If they can do this they are in if not they are out.  I've heard too many "powerhouse" drummers who all you can hear is the Snare and Cymbals when they are wailing unless you mic up their kick  to me that is bullshit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 29, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
If you're reading this Aron I hope you won't think I'm sharing too much.

Finding the time to mix, keep up the old material, and write new material isn't easy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on August 30, 2013, 09:17:02 AM
I gave my guitarist the gear he was using anyway as a gift for his birthday. It felt good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 30, 2013, 10:56:18 AM
That's a nice gesture.^^

Man it seems like I never have the time to play lately.  The other night we had some friends over and we were sitting in the living room and they asked about my reel to reel.  I told them how I used it as an amp.  They asked if it sounded good so I said yeah let me show you.  So I plugged in and kinda got lost for about 10 minutes.  I look up and they're just kinda lookin at me and I'm thinkn "damn I'm just gettin warmed up".  Coulda sat there and played for a while but had to "entertain" company not entertain company if ya know what I mean.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 30, 2013, 08:16:51 PM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on August 31, 2013, 03:43:19 AM
That's really nice Michael :)

Rager you need to get back on it!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on August 31, 2013, 06:03:47 AM
I also said to the dude that I'm not really feeling it anymore. He's my best buddy and the drummer too but making music together just doesn't work all the time. This sucks.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 31, 2013, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on August 31, 2013, 03:43:19 AM
That's really nice Michael :)

Rager you need to get back on it!!!

Totally got lost jammin this morning for about a half hour and was almost late for work.  Not that it would be a big deal but I like to be on time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on August 31, 2013, 10:49:22 PM
I have had that happen to me too many times, RAGER. If it happens, I just lock myself in my room for about 45 mins to an hour starting at the beginning of the week and by the end of the week I am in good shape.

Anyone got a reccomendation for a good analog delay for no more than $120-$130 for echoplexish/tape sounds that won't get lost in the mix.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on September 01, 2013, 07:57:06 AM
Carbon copy?  Great delay for $150 or so new.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 01, 2013, 08:58:19 AM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on August 31, 2013, 06:03:47 AM
I also said to the dude that I'm not really feeling it anymore. He's my best buddy and the drummer too but making music together just doesn't work all the time. This sucks.

That does suck considering you're all best mates :*

I'm looking for a delay pedal too, this will sound silly but I really love the delay that I add to my leads through studio one, my DD3 pedal doesn't sound as good, my leads are sounding better on record than live we've even had a review saying so which was disappointing but true, it's not to do with the actual playing of them because I can throw em down live or recorded just fine but it's the actual effects making the difference so I need to find something good....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on September 01, 2013, 10:18:29 AM
Quote from: Pissy on September 01, 2013, 07:57:06 AM
Carbon copy?  Great delay for $150 or so new.

That is at the top of the list along with Ekko 616 and this guy.

http://www.youngpedals.com/adm.html (http://www.youngpedals.com/adm.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 01, 2013, 10:41:42 AM
I have both the Carbon Copy and the 616 and also keep a DD3 on my main board but just for a breadth to my sound not so much for delay. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 01, 2013, 12:24:02 PM
I think the DD3 is way better for that purpose rager, I might keep it and work the settings for that instead...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 01, 2013, 12:38:52 PM
Yep just a slight repeat with the level and feedback rate pretty low.  I haven't fallen in love with any reverb pedals so far so that's kind of what I use it for. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 01, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
Not analog but this thing can do awesome weird stuff as well as classic regular delay sounds.

(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/189/081/DV016_Jpg_Large_150821.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 02, 2013, 08:50:58 AM


She's 8 years old.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2013, 10:12:20 AM
Do you guys run your delays through an FX loop or in front of the amp?  I can never get delays to sound good in front of an amp unless it's a clean channel.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2013, 10:17:06 AM
In other news I re-discovered my Furman PQ-3.  It was in a closet at my drummer's house and before that sat in a basement for several years.  Anyway, I ran it last in my chain before my amp input, cut anything below 50 Hz, boosted the mids around 1k and the highs around 2-3k.  Holy hell it sounded good!  It cleaned up the entire band's sound since I wasn't competing/muddying up the bass and had a distinctive frequency range bump that placed me in the mix nicely.  It also caused my amp to distort all the right frequencies and made it seem like I flipped the "Alive" switch.  If you guys have some EQs laying around and play in a band setting, I recommend playing around with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 02, 2013, 11:47:49 AM
My goal for today is to figure out what the fuck is wrong with my guitar recordings.

I'm recording out of an isolation cab, so I get my mic (or two of them) in there, fuck with positioning until I get a good sound, play along with the rest of the mix through my headphones, and the guitar sounds great...really heavy, and prominent in the mix.

Do a take, go back to listen to it, and not only can I barely hear it, but it sounds all weak and shitty.  I'm setting the recording level at about -5db (as I am with everything else) for headroom when I'm mixing it later.

I don't get it.  I've done this in the past and gotten really good recordings; I must be doing something wrong that is very basic, but I dunno what yet.  Any ideas?  If it sounds great in the headphones with the rest of the mix, then why does hitting 'record' change everything?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2013, 12:54:55 PM
Is the phase flipped on one of the mic's?  Try changing the phase on one of the mic channels and see if it sounds better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 02, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2013, 12:54:55 PM
Is the phase flipped on one of the mic's?  Try changing the phase on one of the mic channels and see if it sounds better.

Nah, that wasn't it.

I feel pretty overwhelmed with trying to fumble my way through this stuff.  Took a free class at GC on home recording, but it really didn't teach me that much.

I hope y'all don't get irked, because I'm probably gonna be asking some very stupid questions for a while, haha.  I started with the drum track, which was sequenced in Tracktion 4 and then I applied the BFD2 plug-in.  Separated it into two tracks, one with cymbals, and the other with kick, snare and toms so I could EQ them separately.  It sounds really good.

The level on each was at 0db when I first created it, and that didn't drive the overall level into the red.  Then, as I added synth tracks, then bass and guitar, all at least -5db individually...the drum track started going into the red.  With each successive track that I add, I have to lower the initial level of the drums, which is now down to -14db to keep from going into the red (as well as the overall level of the mix).

Apparently, I don't understand how this all works...I can understand why adding tracks would make the overall mix level increase, but why would adding tracks make the level of the drums by themselves increase?  Overall, once I adjust all the levels of the mix after the guitar tracks were added, the guitars don't sound as bad as they initially did (although not as good as I want yet).  I'm learning by trial-and-error about how to tweak everything in the mix, but it's really frustrating.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2013, 04:39:38 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on September 02, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
I can understand why adding tracks would make the overall mix level increase, but why would adding tracks make the level of the drums by themselves increase?  

Put simply, that doesn't make sense and you're correct to be confused.  Something must be set up incorrectly.  What software are you using?  It sounds like your new tracks are going into the input of your drum track.  Perhaps you've accidentally chosen to route things in a weird way?  Have you set up buses or anything like that? 

Or perhaps when you say "creating tracks" you're not doing what I think.  Are you adding tracks in whatever virtual instrument software you're using, or are you adding them with your DAW like Reaper?  If it's the former and you're using a single DAW track to play those back then that's your problem.  If you want more help then we'll need more information.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 02, 2013, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2013, 04:39:38 PM
Put simply, that doesn't make sense and you're correct to be confused.  Something must be set up incorrectly.  What software are you using?  It sounds like your new tracks are going into the input of your drum track.  Perhaps you've accidentally chosen to route things in a weird way?  Have you set up buses or anything like that? 

Or perhaps when you say "creating tracks" you're not doing what I think.  Are you adding tracks in whatever virtual instrument software you're using, or are you adding them with your DAW like Reaper?  If it's the former and you're using a single DAW track to play those back then that's your problem.  If you want more help then we'll need more information.

Aaargh, my brain must be fried.  Apparently, it is not increasing the level of the drum track when I add new tracks.  I'm mis-remembering everything I did.  I double-checked it by creating a new project, and starting a new drum track with all of the same particulars...kit, compression, reverb, phaser (all at the same settings as before), and I had to lower the level just as much to keep it out of the red.

So, now I gotta get back into the guitar recording issues.  Gonna read up some more in my home recording books, and spend the rest of the night trying different things and making a log of each effort to see what works and what doesn't.

Thanks for the help; sorry it was just as I figured...me being stupid, haha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 03, 2013, 10:26:30 AM
Man, sure sounds like you're doing a lot of work just to record.  Don't get burned out on the details!  One mistake I've made is spending way too much time mixing and trying to get the perfect tone when the goal of the recording was just to remember the riff or to demo.  Or I'd get one track sounding perfect and then when I added another instrument I had to change it all anyway.  My point is, know your goal and don't waste your time.  You'll learn all the tips and tricks when you need them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 03, 2013, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2013, 10:12:20 AM
Do you guys run your delays through an FX loop or in front of the amp?  I can never get delays to sound good in front of an amp unless it's a clean channel.

In front but my amp is clean. Aren't effects loops usually for a rack level signal? I read all about that stuff earlier in the year and promptly forgot most of it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 03, 2013, 11:06:13 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on September 03, 2013, 10:26:30 AM
Man, sure sounds like you're doing a lot of work just to record.  Don't get burned out on the details!  One mistake I've made is spending way too much time mixing and trying to get the perfect tone when the goal of the recording was just to remember the riff or to demo.  Or I'd get one track sounding perfect and then when I added another instrument I had to change it all anyway.  My point is, know your goal and don't waste your time.  You'll learn all the tips and tricks when you need them.

Well, I'm recording to get it to sound as good as possible in the end.  I don't have any plans on ever going into a studio or anything, just writing songs that I like and getting them recorded as best I can by myself.  I recorded some things in the past that I think sound pretty good.  It's for fun, not some future goal of releasing a studio album.

Thanks for listening to me, though.  Got much better guitar tracks recorded last night (not keepers, but at least the sound is better), so I was pretty happy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 03, 2013, 11:21:54 AM
Aspirin possibly -5db is the reason why you can barely hear it, it might sound alright when your still messing around (as opposed to recording) because you're getting a different dignal than the recorded version - whatever volume your headphones are set at, then when you play back the recording you're getting the -5db version, I might be wrong. Also I might be wrong in this but I find it works best to record everything at 0db then adjust levels afterwards, I never go below 0db before or afterwards...

I impulse bought a Marshall EH1 for cheap on eBay in my quest to find a delay I like and now I regret it, firstly because it looks wussy and secondly there's an electro harmonix analog delay at only £20 ending in 1 day which I probably should be buying instead, I'm stuck with a budget of £40 and have only weeks to get this sorted out...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 03, 2013, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 03, 2013, 11:21:54 AM
Aspirin possibly -5db is the reason why you can barely hear it, it might sound alright when your still messing around (as opposed to recording) because you're getting a different dignal than the recorded version - whatever volume your headphones are set at, then when you play back the recording you're getting the -5db version, I might be wrong. Also I might be wrong in this but I find it works best to record everything at 0db then adjust levels afterwards, I never go below 0db before or afterwards...

Nah, it had more to do with mic placement, adjusting the mix level of other instruments after guitar was recorded, and also adjusting the guitar sound (I'm tuned to drop-A, which I find more difficult to record...even moving up to B makes it much easier). 

All of the other pieces in the mix are at -5db, so it's not that the guitar is set lower than anything else (but as I said, I did need to adjust the total mix after the guitar was added to get it to stand out).  I did the -5db based on things I've been reading, because if you record at 0db, and something needs a boost later, you're out of luck (although I suppose you could then drop the levels of every other track, but that seems like more of a pain in the ass).

I also think that I had the mix level going to my headphones improperly balanced, so the guitar sounded louder in the 'phones than what was actually being recorded, heh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 04, 2013, 10:54:43 AM
This [A tuning] makes a lot more sense.  It's probably not a level problem, but an EQ problem.  The first thing I normally do is take a parametric/high-pass EQ shelf and cut the low frequencies.  I then listen to that track alone and move that cutting curve (starting at about 50 Hz) slowly to higher frequencies until I start noticing a reduction in bass.  Then you can either back it off a little or go a bit further to leave more room for the kick and bass guitars.  The less information you have competing in frequencies you can't really hear the more information you'll get to keep in the frequencies that matter.  Cut all that super low stuff out given that it's not a range your guitar is meaningful and it's definitely not a range that your speakers and room are reproducing accurately unless you have a several thousand dollar system in a sound treated room.

Another thing you can do is find the frequency range that really defines that instrument, boost it and then go and cut that same frequency range on instruments that compete with it (bass, vocals, snare maybe).  It takes a lot of time and back-and-forth, but that's how I get things to start playing nice together, along with other techniques (i.e. compressor ducking).  And as a rule of thumb, don't cut/boost anything more than about 6dB if you want things to stay sounding natural. 

One last thing:  when you're boosting a frequency by quite a bit, be sure that you then reduce the volume accordingly while listening back.  This is important because the temptation is always "louder=better" and when you boost a frequency it naturally becomes a little louder.  You can get in these fruitless excursions (especially when you're on hour 8 and ear fatigued) where you're boosting here, boosting there, and before you know it you cut the volume back on everything and it sounds like a weird pile of dog shit and you have to start from square one.  Learn from my mistakes...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on September 04, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
Been given load of boxes of stuff from a guys electronics workshop, lot of it is hand me down's from his dad, and the dude himself ain't young. Lots of really old stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 05, 2013, 03:46:32 AM
Ocean of Stars was set to resume weekly rehearsals today for the first time since end of June.

Thwarted by a biblical thunderstorm that blew up out if nowhere and knocked out power to the rehearsal studio and surrounding area. One hell of a lightning show. Just, wow.

So we'll reconvene next week and hopefully one of the many bass players I've been talking to can make it out and join the project.

Progress has been glacially slow. If I wasn't so worried about money right now, that might concern me to a point.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 07, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
In other musical news:

So I landed a wedding gig for late oct. $300 a man plus rooms. I would have to learn about 30 songs with several rehearsals.

Just as that fell into my lap a band I recorded an album with earlier this year wanted me for the same weekend.

I declined and said I was booked. They responded asking how much it would take to get me to cancel that booking and do their shows.

Before I could respond with a figure, they got back to me again and offered me $1000 to do their weekend of shows. Deal!

So being a pro I got back to wedding gig people and said I had an offer I couldn't refuse fall in my lap. Not very pro on my part, but to make it easier on them I had already asked a few friends to take the gig in my stead, and one of them could. So I told them "I can't do the gig after all, but here is someone who CAN." And facilitated some of the communication between the wedding gig band and my friend.

So last night the band called me and said their weekend of shows was not happening cause some friend of theirs claimed to be the owner of said club, and was going to wire them money to help get them off the ground.

All false. Gigs not happening. They fell for his bullshit hook line and sinker.

So they have agreed to still pay me $300 for the cancelled booking, which was very kind of them.

But still. This is why I don't like to deal with non-pros. I've been burned too many times putting the forward momentum of my own career into the hands of people with way less experience and questionable business sense.

Ugh.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on September 07, 2013, 01:41:26 PM
So if I read that right Danny, now you aren't doing either gig? That sucks.

I have emerged from my "retirement" a bit and started jamming with my brother(bass) and a keyboardist. Last night was the 3rd of these jams and it is really getting fun.
Total free form stream of consciousness hodgepodge of styles. Real heavy on the 70's jazz funk fusion though. Think Scofield, Medeski, Martin and Wood.
The drummer friend keeps flaking, so what we can do has been limited, but holy shit when one finally does it'll be awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 07, 2013, 01:59:49 PM
Nope. But still being paid for what I would have lost for that weekend. So there's that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on September 07, 2013, 06:10:17 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/08/y9yhapeh.jpg)

Almost burnt down some shit at practice today.  Fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on September 07, 2013, 06:50:55 PM
Ha, being hot enough to char the wood is more of a Laney/Carlsbro thing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 07, 2013, 06:58:41 PM
Holy shit


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Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 07, 2013, 08:33:17 PM
Hot fuck! Something go bad inside?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on September 07, 2013, 09:07:33 PM
Well, there was no audible problems.   We were in the middle of running through a set, and our drummer started tapping me on the shoulder during a solo.  I didn't even notice the smell of smoke, until he stopped me.  Not an acrid pc board on fire smell...just burning wood. I'm actually kinda proud, since it was a really fun jam.   So, I'm gonna drink some beers and look under the hood tomorrow.  We accomplished what we needed to at practice anyhow.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: da_qtip on September 07, 2013, 10:20:51 PM
Posting this here since I don't think it warrants it's own thread.

Can anyone identify this little amp? I think it's some kind of Pignose copy.

http://i.imgur.com/c3xUj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kgYkl.jpg
 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 09, 2013, 11:10:53 AM
Agent that was some pretty interesting stuff, I tune to A and usually I find that a really tiny bit of EQ tweaking enhances the sound but I always thought best to try leave that alone to keep the true sound, it hadnt occurred to me that I probably should be doing that especially with the down tuning, did a bit of mixing last night with that in mind...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 09, 2013, 11:12:58 AM
A question: do you think that decorative amp covers would have much of an effect on the sound? We want to have war banners with sigils on them under the heads and hanging down, I'm thinking it probably does?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on September 09, 2013, 11:56:35 AM
Need a fair bit of mass in the cloth to really damp anything significant. It will take  atiny bit of treble, but not anyhting you'd miss if you use a 4x12 and don't have it pointing right at your ears.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on September 09, 2013, 09:34:22 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 09, 2013, 11:12:58 AM
A question: do you think that decorative amp covers would have much of an effect on the sound? We want to have war banners with sigils on them under the heads and hanging down, I'm thinking it probably does?

If the Sigils are of Orc or Dwarf in origin this will not hurt the volume.  If they are Elven Sigils...you may be French.

(really not much, look into beam blockers and consider the different kinds of speaker coverings.  If the material is the most dense wool with steel threading woven in that may be a different story.)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 10, 2013, 01:17:55 PM
Venues being flakey and then double booking and canceling your show isn't fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on September 10, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
Does anyone know of someone that makes/sells Zemaitis knock off guitars and parts? Particularly the metal fronts.
Holy fuck one of these would be awesome, but I can't eat it.
(http://www.zemaitis-guitars.com/images/our_guitars/catalog/MetalFront/MF501_FD_big.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 10, 2013, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 09, 2013, 11:10:53 AM
Agent that was some pretty interesting stuff, I tune to A and usually I find that a really tiny bit of EQ tweaking enhances the sound but I always thought best to try leave that alone to keep the true sound, it hadnt occurred to me that I probably should be doing that especially with the down tuning, did a bit of mixing last night with that in mind...

Cool.  Did it make a noticeable change?  It tends to make a bigger difference the more stuff you have.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 10, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
Absolutely! I just need to practise now  :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on September 10, 2013, 04:31:55 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on September 10, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
Does anyone know of someone that makes/sells Zemaitis knock off guitars and parts? Particularly the metal fronts.
Holy fuck one of these would be awesome, but I can't eat it.
(http://www.zemaitis-guitars.com/images/our_guitars/catalog/MetalFront/MF501_FD_big.jpg)

Greco do a licenced copy of the guitars but not sure about parts. Divisor/Bacchus also used to make them.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 10, 2013, 06:22:40 PM
Are they just stamped metal?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on September 10, 2013, 06:50:16 PM
SunnO))), Engraved aluminum face. Not all his models had the metal front though. Some with ornate MOP.
(http://www.zemaitis-guitars.com/images/our_guitars/catalog/PearlFront/PF100S_ICE_big.jpg)

Moose, it looks like those Grecos are Zemaitis' family continuing the business.  Even those are still pretty expensive.
from wikipedia:
"Since Zemaitis Sr.'s death in 2002, the Zemaitis family continued the guitar-building business in Tokyo, offering both high-end hand-built guitars, and a more affordable "Greco Zemaitis" line of guitars. The current production is based on original drawings by Tony Zemaitis Sr."
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on September 11, 2013, 06:03:01 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on September 10, 2013, 06:22:40 PM
Are they just stamped metal?

Gun metal engraving afaik.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 12, 2013, 01:50:22 AM
Good price.

http://www.vminnovations.com/Product_48902/Tascam-DP-008-Digital-PortaStudio-8-Track-Recorder-w-SD-Card-and-USB-2-0.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 12, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
Fuck my country - it costs over 280 euros here :/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 13, 2013, 11:44:05 PM
any one here use big cartel. its pretty awesome as far as I can tell for bands and labels.
heres the link to mine..
http://continuumrecords.bigcartel.com/ (http://continuumrecords.bigcartel.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 14, 2013, 03:10:17 AM
Sell me mortlock, we use bandcamp but we have a few things on the way, should we switch to/also use bigcartel? The bandcamp fees are quite high...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 14, 2013, 03:52:52 AM
Yeah, I use Bandcamp too. Yesterday I created a page for my boring and monotonous dark ambient project.
http://wampir.bandcamp.com/
Name means vampire in Polish, I'm quite shocked that the name wasnt already taken by some fucks :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 14, 2013, 07:22:19 AM
I like your stuff Omlet, listening to it in work and totally jumped out of my skin when someone came to see me in the office heheh! I'd be up for doing some guitar stuff over stuff like that if your ever up for it sometime, I want to make stuff like that myself just don't know where to start really...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 14, 2013, 01:15:52 PM
big cartel gives you 5 listings for free. I like it so far..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 14, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
Jem, do I understand you correctly that you want to collaborate on some project or my English sucks even more than I expected? :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2013, 05:00:52 AM
Quote from: Omlet on September 12, 2013, 07:22:13 AM
Fuck my country - it costs over 280 euros here :/

But you probably get health care even if you are between jobs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 15, 2013, 07:46:32 AM
Yes but between jobs only til 2014 :(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on September 15, 2013, 02:21:26 PM
I was recently contacted by Racer X's old DRS bass player. He has moved back to the SF bay area and wants to recruit me to fill the guitar spot.
I had to explain to him that I am retired and though I'd love to just jam for fun, I have zero interest in being in a band. Why do people got to take that stuff so personally?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on September 15, 2013, 07:07:51 PM
I've been thinking about when I fix up this Mock and sell it, about going all the way and buying an actual Gibson LP and not a Japanese clone. Yet, I just find it hard to drop more than $1k on a guitar. Partially because I am not that great of a player.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 15, 2013, 08:53:38 PM
Finally starting to get some better recorded guitar and bass tones, and still using my isolation cab.  Just gotta keep tinkering away and learn through trial and error, I suppose.  Just asking, but for those of you who have put up some pretty thick, awesome guitar tones on here...like Jake and Corey Y...how many guitar tracks do you usually record?  I currently have 3 guitar tracks on the song I'm working on, and it sounds better, but still not as thick and warm as I'm looking for.

Just curious if you guys are able to pull off those great tones with one track. 

I'm also at the point that I remember so well when I was recording years ago...I like what I have so far, but it's 2 minutes in, time for a change and a big ending...and I'm stuck with no good ideas.  Most of the stuff I wrote back then followed this same pattern until it just got shelved.  I'm trying to finish all that old stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2013, 12:13:18 AM
Quote from: Omlet on September 15, 2013, 07:46:32 AM
Yes but between jobs only til 2014 :(

That sucks. Where do you live? I'm probably going to temporarily lose the health insurance I have through my work after the 2 week trip I have coming up because I won't have enough hours worked on average for the 10 week period or whatever. I can't even use personal time to cover the trip because my hours average is already too low(because of illness) to qualify for it. I realize it's expensive for the company to provide and getting worse every year but it's still horse shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 16, 2013, 05:10:26 AM
I live in Poland. They want to cut the insurance rights for unemployed because um, i have no idea. Probably they want to save money for something "more important".

On topic: I want to learn playing banjo :D its really rare instrument here and i dont know anyone playing it so im rather afraid, especially by bridge adjustments if i fuck something up. Clawhammer playing style looks really great and relatively easy to learn but that potential bridge issues are really worrying me :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 16, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
Quote from: black aspirin on September 15, 2013, 08:53:38 PM
Finally starting to get some better recorded guitar and bass tones, and still using my isolation cab.  Just gotta keep tinkering away and learn through trial and error, I suppose.  Just asking, but for those of you who have put up some pretty thick, awesome guitar tones on here...like Jake and Corey Y...how many guitar tracks do you usually record?  I currently have 3 guitar tracks on the song I'm working on, and it sounds better, but still not as thick and warm as I'm looking for.

Just curious if you guys are able to pull off those great tones with one track. 

I'm also at the point that I remember so well when I was recording years ago...I like what I have so far, but it's 2 minutes in, time for a change and a big ending...and I'm stuck with no good ideas.  Most of the stuff I wrote back then followed this same pattern until it just got shelved.  I'm trying to finish all that old stuff.

More guitars isn't necessarily better because the more you have the most likely you are to get phase cancellations and therefore a thinner sound.  For a thicker sound I would recommend cutting the gain back, lowering the bass a bit, and adding the mids. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 16, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
Or maybe just a couple tracks with different mic placements.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 16, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
Thanks for the advice.  So far, the following adjustments have helped (since I'm tuned to A)...turning the bass setting down on the amp, using a high-pass filter to cut everything below 80, and recording 3 guitar tracks...BUT, the way I'm doing it is by leaving the mic placement the same, and adjusting the gain, mids, etc. for each track to get a fuller sound.  So phase cancellation shouldn't be a problem if the mic stays put, right?

It's certainly producing better results, but I still have a lot to learn.  I think a single track should sound much fuller than it is so far...I might try to skip the isolation cab this weekend and mic my Matamp 4x12.  Unfortunately, I can't crank it up, so I would be recording at low volume. 

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 16, 2013, 12:58:21 PM
Can you stuff the amp in a closet or isolate it with a mattress or something?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 16, 2013, 12:59:42 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on September 15, 2013, 02:21:26 PM
I was recently contacted by Racer X's old DRS bass player. He has moved back to the SF bay area and wants to recruit me to fill the guitar spot.
I had to explain to him that I am retired and though I'd love to just jam for fun, I have zero interest in being in a band. Why do people got to take that stuff so personally?

Neb's a grouchy old fucker like me. Taking music much more seriously than most of the "important" details of our lives was a big reason we got along.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 16, 2013, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on September 16, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
Thanks for the advice.  So far, the following adjustments have helped (since I'm tuned to A)...turning the bass setting down on the amp, using a high-pass filter to cut everything below 80, and recording 3 guitar tracks...BUT, the way I'm doing it is by leaving the mic placement the same, and adjusting the gain, mids, etc. for each track to get a fuller sound.  So phase cancellation shouldn't be a problem if the mic stays put, right?

It's certainly producing better results, but I still have a lot to learn.  I think a single track should sound much fuller than it is so far...I might try to skip the isolation cab this weekend and mic my Matamp 4x12.  Unfortunately, I can't crank it up, so I would be recording at low volume. 



An easy way to see if your guitars are working in or out of phase is to zoom really far in on the timeline so you can see the waveforms going positive and negative.  If you see some going negative and others positive then slightly move some of them forward or backward in time so that they all approximately match.  These time shifts are very small and won't make things sound sloppy or anything.

Also, you are panning the tracks, right?  If you're putting everything in the center then you should try spreading them out left to right.  Experiment with how much a track should be left and how much right (50/50?  100/0?  75/25?). 

Finally, it can be cool to use the first technique more extreme and deliberately offset the timing of one (or more) of the tracks (~20ms maybe?).  It gives a nice spread and doubled/chorus sound.  Obviously this is a better fit for music that doesn't require super-precise timing.  Adjust amount of delay to taste.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on September 16, 2013, 02:55:50 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on September 15, 2013, 08:53:38 PM
Finally starting to get some better recorded guitar and bass tones, and still using my isolation cab.  Just gotta keep tinkering away and learn through trial and error, I suppose.  Just asking, but for those of you who have put up some pretty thick, awesome guitar tones on here...like Jake and Corey Y...how many guitar tracks do you usually record?  I currently have 3 guitar tracks on the song I'm working on, and it sounds better, but still not as thick and warm as I'm looking for.

Just curious if you guys are able to pull off those great tones with one track. 

I'm also at the point that I remember so well when I was recording years ago...I like what I have so far, but it's 2 minutes in, time for a change and a big ending...and I'm stuck with no good ideas.  Most of the stuff I wrote back then followed this same pattern until it just got shelved.  I'm trying to finish all that old stuff.

There's no one big trick to it. Recording comes down to a lot of subtle parts working together. So part of it is what you're actually playing (riffs), pickups, setup, amp settings, mic choice and placement, how you mix it. I tend to tinker with things until I like the way they sound completely unmixed, then you have a lot to work with during mixing. I tend to start with the EQ settings on amps all at noon and try not to max everything out at the start. The biggest thing is just trusting your ears. Try something, listen critically and adjust. Most of the time I'm not recording at high volumes, so you don't absolutely need that to sound good (unless you need it to get the amp tone you like). The bit about running low cut/high pass filter is a good suggestion. There's no set specific frequency, I usually just raise the cut frequency up until I start to hear a slight change, then dial it back a bit. There is a certain amount of low frequency that gets felt more than heard, even with recordings, so you don't want to go overboard with it. That's more a mixing deal though, how it stacks up with a lot of other tracks in the mix and maintaining headroom for proper mastering. The biggest guideline for me is just making no assumptions about how a particular setting should sound and trust my ears, be reactive to what I'm hearing until I like the result. Sometimes people shooting for really heavy and thick guitar tones default to max Low and Gain and cut a lot of Presence, Mid and Highs. There's no reason you can't record a mid scooped, low heavy guitar tone and make it work well in a mix, but it doesn't necessarily equal instant heavy. I would also play around with your microphone position a bit. If you have a good pair of over ear headphones, put them on and play a bit, move the mic and listen for the sweet spot. Purely a subjective thing, whatever the sweet spot is for what you want to be hearing. Remember that the microphone moves in three dimensions, moving it closer or farther away from the speaker has an effect too.

You don't necessarily need more tracks for a heavier sound. When I'm recording other people I do frequently use at least 2 mics per guitar rig, but I don't always use both. When I'm doing that I'm usually going for contrasting, but complimentary tones. Otherwise it can just sort of muddy up. Sorry I can't be more specific to your situation, most of what I know about recording comes from a lot of experimentation and learning a method for approaching things, as opposed to a specific set of techniques that I always use. What works great for one project/tone, doesn't necessarily work best for another.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 16, 2013, 06:54:56 PM
Thanks for the advice.  Your recent guitar/bass tracks sounded amazing, so I had to ask.

I am using a good pair of Sennheiser over-the-ear headphones, and playing around with mic position.  Gonna record some more guitar tracks tonight and play around to see what gets the best results...I suspect this learning curve will take me a while. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on September 16, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on September 16, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
Thanks for the advice.  So far, the following adjustments have helped (since I'm tuned to A)...turning the bass setting down on the amp, using a high-pass filter to cut everything below 80, and recording 3 guitar tracks...BUT, the way I'm doing it is by leaving the mic placement the same, and adjusting the gain, mids, etc. for each track to get a fuller sound.  So phase cancellation shouldn't be a problem if the mic stays put, right?

It's certainly producing better results, but I still have a lot to learn.  I think a single track should sound much fuller than it is so far...I might try to skip the isolation cab this weekend and mic my Matamp 4x12.  Unfortunately, I can't crank it up, so I would be recording at low volume. 


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try backing the mic away from the cab.  That will give you a really full sound and not so in you face likr close micing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 17, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
When you guys speak of more guitar tracks do you mean the number of mics on the rig? Or layering more newly played guitar tracks on top?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on September 17, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
The term generally means overdubbing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eddiefive10 on September 17, 2013, 12:18:46 PM
I have no speaker cabinet and no money this is my sad sad blog thank you good day!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 17, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 17, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
When you guys speak of more guitar tracks do you mean the number of mics on the rig? Or layering more newly played guitar tracks on top?



My isolation cab has two mic mounts inside, so I started out doing it that way.  But now I've been using one mic, not moving it, and just changing the amp settings for the next track that I record so I can blend the two.  It seems to be working a bit better.

Something still has to be very wrong, though.  I don't understand how I can hear it sounding great in the headphones, yet once it's recorded, it sounds WAY thinner and 'muffled'...and that's not because of where it's sitting in the mix.  I can listen to the track all by itself, and it doesn't sound anything like what I heard through the headphones.

There must be a very basic, dumbass mistake I'm making, LOL.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 17, 2013, 12:39:14 PM
Maybe record something else (vocals or some other rig) using the mic and see if the same thing happens.  Slowly swap things out and figure out if you're setting something up wrong in the software.  Or maybe your headphones have some amp/EQ and it makes things sound different than what they really are?  Is your after-recording playback through the headphones or some other speaker system?  I wish I could hear what you mean but I'm not sure how you could capture it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 17, 2013, 02:06:22 PM
Disco I wondered if they meant over dubbing more guitar or using time delay etc on different mic tracks...

That sounds very annoying aspirin!!

I'm not sold on the guitar overdubbing thing to be honest. A couple of the doom bands in my area I know track the guitar as much as 10 times for that wall of sound effect, it does sound awesome initially but after a while it can sound quite dead, it crosses my mind that it's not the real sound, or anything like how it'd sound live, I also think that the more layers of guitars there are the less clarity and reality there is, those real sounds you get from the wood and fingers and strings, the energy in that one take, the feedback and sounds from the amp etc all gets lost in a massive soul less wash of 'heaviness'. When I record my demos there's only ever one guitar track and I'm happy with how big and full it sounds. We're in the studio for 5 days on Thursday recording the album, it's an hour long so I doubt I'll get time to layer guitars anyway but I'll think about it and discuss it with the others if there's time, I was thinking of potentially two tracks 1 using a different guitar which has a completely different sound to the other, I know it compliments the other as we used to have those two guitars in the band, but like I said I don't think I'll feel the need anyway...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 17, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
BBE sonic maximizer can do miracles. But i dont use anything like it in my primitive black metal project, just a stereo enhancer plugin from my DAW software.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on September 17, 2013, 06:41:25 PM
Try a super heavy fuzz tone for the base tracks, and a cleaner low mid tone for the overdubs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 18, 2013, 11:51:06 PM
Man, I'm at my wit's end.  Just tried to simplify and re-record the bass track for the song I'm working on now, tonight...adjusted the amp settings, the bass guitar knobs, and everything sounded great in my headphones.  Tons of clarity, good distortion, and good blend of bass/mids/treble.   Set the mix so when I was recording, I could hear just enough of the drums/guitars, plus the bass I was trying to record.  Set the recording level so the bass maxed out at -5db to allow for headroom later...and when I played the mix back, I couldn't hear the bass at all.  Then I boosted it up above 0db in the recorded mix, and could still barely hear it. 

What the fuck?  I know, instinctively, that I must be making some basic, dumbass mistake...but I can't figure it the fuck out.  I think I'm gonna post on Craigslist...ask someone who knows what the fuck they're doing to come over, pay them for their time...to teach me what stupid mistake I'm making.  This is ridiculous.

Here's what I have so far.  The bass and guitar tones are fucking WEAK compared to what my headphones signify.

https://soundcloud.com/black-aspirin-1/equilibrium-export-20

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on September 19, 2013, 06:21:49 AM
Have you tried using a different set of headphones?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Ancient on September 19, 2013, 08:57:18 AM
Quote from: black aspirin on September 17, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 17, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
When you guys speak of more guitar tracks do you mean the number of mics on the rig? Or layering more newly played guitar tracks on top?



My isolation cab has two mic mounts inside, so I started out doing it that way.  But now I've been using one mic, not moving it, and just changing the amp settings for the next track that I record so I can blend the two.  It seems to be working a bit better.

Something still has to be very wrong, though.  I don't understand how I can hear it sounding great in the headphones, yet once it's recorded, it sounds WAY thinner and 'muffled'...and that's not because of where it's sitting in the mix.  I can listen to the track all by itself, and it doesn't sound anything like what I heard through the headphones.

There must be a very basic, dumbass mistake I'm making, LOL.

Man I haven't been here in months but I'm bored at work hahahaha

Your problem is called phase. When you have multiple guitar tracks recorded you have to make sure the peaks and valleys of each track are synced up otherwise they cause cancellation. Solo just the guitar tracks one at a time, you should notice the first track sounds great and then as you add more if they don't make it sound louder and bigger then that track is out of phase. Zoom in as far as you can go on any section of the two tracks and move the second (or third whatever) track forwards or backwards to line up the peaks of the wave file. That should fix the problem.

As far as the bass tracks are concerned look up side chain compression and side the bass with the kick drum. What this basically does is compresses the bass as the kick hits so you can crank up the bass (in the bass eq dip at 63 and 1k and boost at 250) but not kill the kick drum. This also clears up headroom as the low end can fill up alot of sonic space if the bass and kick drum arent stepping out of the way of each other. First and foremost don't forget to check the phase on each overdub you do for the bass as well.

Phase problems are the number one headache for newer mixing engineers.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 19, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Ancient on September 19, 2013, 08:57:18 AM

Man I haven't been here in months but I'm bored at work hahahaha

Your problem is called phase. When you have multiple guitar tracks recorded you have to make sure the peaks and valleys of each track are synced up otherwise they cause cancellation. Solo just the guitar tracks one at a time, you should notice the first track sounds great and then as you add more if they don't make it sound louder and bigger then that track is out of phase. Zoom in as far as you can go on any section of the two tracks and move the second (or third whatever) track forwards or backwards to line up the peaks of the wave file. That should fix the problem.

As far as the bass tracks are concerned look up side chain compression and side the bass with the kick drum. What this basically does is compresses the bass as the kick hits so you can crank up the bass (in the bass eq dip at 63 and 1k and boost at 250) but not kill the kick drum. This also clears up headroom as the low end can fill up alot of sonic space if the bass and kick drum arent stepping out of the way of each other. First and foremost don't forget to check the phase on each overdub you do for the bass as well.

Phase problems are the number one headache for newer mixing engineers.

Thanks for the advice (especially on the bass EQ/compression)...but it's not a phase problem.  Any individual guitar/bass track I record follows this pattern.  Tone sounds good in the room, tone sounds good in the headphones, record it...and it sounds like I stuck a mic in a trashcan somewhere in the same room and hit record.

I'm gonna pull out my old Roland digital recorder and see what happens with it.  If that doesn't change things, then by this weekend I'll ditch the isolation cab and try sticking a mic in front of my normal cabinet.  
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 19, 2013, 10:17:18 AM
Answer me this Aspirin: 

We know you set it up to sound good with headphones while you record.  When you listen back and hear the problem are you listening back with the same headphones or a different set of speakers?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 19, 2013, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on September 19, 2013, 10:17:18 AM
Answer me this Aspirin: 

We know you set it up to sound good with headphones while you record.  When you listen back and hear the problem are you listening back with the same headphones or a different set of speakers?

Both.

I have some M-Audio monitors, but I also set up some little speakers to my computer so I can listen to playback through a variety of sources. 

Thanks for entertaining my questions, people.  I'm sure some here are already sick of me, haha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 20, 2013, 04:47:36 PM
I know that guitar overdubbing is very commonplace these days but the idea gives me a headache. We used 3 mics for my guitar tracks and I'm fine with that. Actually the room condenser picked up too much string noise from my fingers because my amp wasn't at rehearsal volume levels so we aren't even using that track.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 20, 2013, 05:46:14 PM
So last night I went to my girl's boss' house for a pre Oktoberfest party.  Big huge fucking house with big huge fucking deck and big ass pool and blah blah blah...  Anyways they had a band there and the guitar player had one of these.

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Hand built by Conrad Sundholm.  This dipshit barely knew anything about it.  I asked if it was solid state or tube rectified.  He assured me it was a tube amp.  yeah no shit.  That's not what I asked.  fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 20, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
I been eyeballin an Alesis Micron and a Native Instruments Maschine.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 20, 2013, 07:10:15 PM
FINALLY made a breakthrough last night with the stupid guitar recording issues.  I won't go through all the details, but I spent about 45 minutes straight with the headphones on, tweaking the amp sound and moving the mic all over the place to find the best possible tone that I could.  Also learning more about how to set the levels properly to still leave some headroom, but capture as much as I can with the initial take.

The key for me is to almost forget about what the tone sounds like in the room, and focus on what the recorded sound is going to be.  I used a lot more mids, and a lot less bass in the recording than I would if I were playing in the room (the bass issue obviously being exacerbated by the 'A' tuning).

When all was said and done, I had a single guitar track that was louder and clearer than the other 4 I had previously stacked on each other to get something even listenable.

It amazes me just how much of a difference even an 1/8" movement of the mic placing can make in the sound.  I just made another attempt at a decent bass recording, and although it was a bit better than my last one...still sucks.  But I'll get there.

Thanks to everyone who offered advice...some of it did pay off for me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 21, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
Good to hear you made progress!

As for guitar recording and overdubbing, I only use 2 tracks for rhythm at most. Pan them noticeably left/right but not totally.

Leaves space for the embellishment tracks.

Sometimes a single mic but also get great results with two mics, one up close and one about a foot to 18" from a speaker. Pan them left and right to a point and sounds very good.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 21, 2013, 05:41:56 PM
Excited studio report!

We spent atleast 10 hours yesterday getting the drums down which was a mammoth task! Watching my drummer trying to get the hits and tempos perfect for that length of time was pretty damn stressful, like watching someone play the knife/hand game for 10 hours! Day two my guitars, Chris our engineer instantly said my strings were too small and restrung with 11-70, we discovered that my Laney 4x12 is dead, he replaced it with his Green 4x12 and insisted on combining my trace head with his Model T, I cannot tell you how excited I am about that! There are so many awesome amps sitting around here! Iv just finished 55 mins of riff after around 8 hours, double tracked which was gruelling but added a lot, Chris has sat infront if me the entire time listening and watching my every move which was a great help! It was both extremely tricky and extremely awesome, iv never been so determined and patient in my whole life!! I was shaking with adrenaline for some of it! Bass now, it's almost 11pm! Vocals and leads tomorrow, mixing mastering the day after! This is Jon Conans newly built studio with on sight accommodation which is awesome, there are apple and plum trees outside and we are surrounded by fields :)

Loads of tech photos to come!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 21, 2013, 06:22:30 PM
Awesome report, Jem!  Can't wait to hear it. \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on September 21, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
Sounds nerve wracking, but still fun, can't wait to hear the result Jem.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on September 22, 2013, 08:43:52 AM
During yesterday's set, someone approached the front of the stage and advised me "You need to stand further away from your amps, there is quite a lot of feedback". Good observation, maybe not enough thinking it through though. Dude who got on the stage and kicked the plugs out of the power socket, fuck you. Telling me I'm too loud whilst my amps are off is retarded too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on September 22, 2013, 01:36:44 PM
First rehearsal with a new drummer was today being my first rehearsal in a loooong ass time. I also didn't play since July so it was sloppy but fuzzy ;D Being it was just the 2 of us we quickly settled on a jam and started adding stuff to it. Really easy, no strange looks to each other. A bit of relief after my previous band. I think we're gonna play together some more soon, hopefully next week. If everything works out between us, we'll look for more members but for now just us is nice.

Looking forward to those tech pics Jem!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 22, 2013, 03:09:43 PM
That's awesome Michael! Sounds like you found someone you click with, very rare imo :)

Foxen I can't believe that haha, how rude!! Reminds me of the time a sound guy told me right before we were about to play that I might want to turn down my gain to make it less muddy, presuming that I must be a moron who needs help not to sound muddy ;)

Day 3 in the studio, John has been destroying his voice one bellowing scream at a time for most of the day he sounds terrifying, most of the leads down, looks like we'll be completely finished by tonight and get a full day for mixing and mastering tomorrow! Went to sleep at 3am last night with swollen eyes and riffs ringing in my head then up 6 hours later, I'm looking forward to a day when I can rest and not be on full on mission mode for every second of every hour!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 24, 2013, 09:49:38 PM
Studio porn!

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dunwichamps on September 24, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
say hi to Jon for me!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 24, 2013, 10:36:36 PM
That's awesome, Jem...thanks for posting.  \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on September 24, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/natesecaur123/jamesw_jpeg_zpsae370587.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/natesecaur123/media/jamesw_jpeg_zpsae370587.jpg.html)

Count'm ladies and gentlemen, two, Traynor Bass Masters.   ;D

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 25, 2013, 12:44:13 AM
Aww, Doom Kitty has thee Doom Sleepies!

Awesome pics


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on September 25, 2013, 05:13:46 AM
Quote from: dunwichamps on September 24, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
say hi to Jon for me!

Was gonna say the same thing, haha. What band are you in Jem? Also didn't known you were over this side of the world. Think that's a whole three of us on here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 25, 2013, 05:59:46 AM
Moose I hadn't noticed you were over here either! There used to be a lot more of us I remember. My band is called Coltsblood. Has Jon been buying pedals from you? ;) we had a wee chat about a couple of his pedals but didnt have time to ask about them all, he has a few nice custom pedals! I'm struggling to find a delay I like so might be in touch soon myself! Just need to get a 4x12 and 1x18 fixed first urgh!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on September 25, 2013, 06:50:45 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 25, 2013, 05:59:46 AM
Moose I hadn't noticed you were over here either! There used to be a lot more of us I remember. My band is called Coltsblood. Has Jon been buying pedals from you? ;) we had a wee chat about a couple of his pedals but didnt have time to ask about them all, he has a few nice custom pedals! I'm struggling to find a delay I like so might be in touch soon myself! Just need to get a 4x12 and 1x18 fixed first urgh!

I know him better from helping put on and playing at the Conan gigs in Dublin but he has bought and sold a couple of my builds but has nothing of mine now. Nick has all that glory.

I had a listen to the Coltsblood stuff a few months ago when you played with Headless Kross and Ommadon. Great stuff looking forward to hearing what comes out of Skyhammer and working with Mr Fielding.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 25, 2013, 10:06:45 AM
What an awesome fucking building.  It's my goal to own a huge, cool building like that some day. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on September 25, 2013, 11:58:26 AM
Cool pics Jem, thanks for sharing them. I'm jealous, I want to take a break from recording people and go to some else's cool studio to have them record me! With candles, Green amps and black cats no less.
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Post by: Cursed71 on September 25, 2013, 03:27:12 PM
Damn.   I wanna record in the English countryside.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 25, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: dogfood on September 24, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/natesecaur123/jamesw_jpeg_zpsae370587.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/natesecaur123/media/jamesw_jpeg_zpsae370587.jpg.html)

Count'm ladies and gentlemen, two, Traynor Bass Masters.   ;D



Why do I see a Blackstar HT5?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Ancient on September 25, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
model T... Green Half Stack... Candles... Liqour..... Amazing studio in the English Countryside..... and Kitteh's?!?!?!

/Thread  :'(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on September 25, 2013, 06:17:09 PM
Quote from: RacerX on September 25, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: dogfood on September 24, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/natesecaur123/jamesw_jpeg_zpsae370587.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/natesecaur123/media/jamesw_jpeg_zpsae370587.jpg.html)

Count'm ladies and gentlemen, two, Traynor Bass Masters.   ;D



Why do I see a Blackstar HT5?

Well, he used to play through cool amps...now, not so much.  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dunwichamps on September 26, 2013, 07:38:02 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 25, 2013, 05:59:46 AM
Moose I hadn't noticed you were over here either! There used to be a lot more of us I remember. My band is called Coltsblood. Has Jon been buying pedals from you? ;) we had a wee chat about a couple of his pedals but didnt have time to ask about them all, he has a few nice custom pedals! I'm struggling to find a delay I like so might be in touch soon myself! Just need to get a 4x12 and 1x18 fixed first urgh!

Jon has 2 things I built for him, a prototype Fuzzthrone and the real Fuzzthrone. Nice to see his studio is rocking now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on September 26, 2013, 08:04:53 AM
Just realised people may not know who we're talking about but it's Jon from Conan and that's his Skyhammer studio which is run by Chris Fielding the man responsible for some of the greatest records of the last ten years or so.

http://www.chrisfielding.co.uk/content/discography
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on September 27, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: Omlet on September 17, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
BBE sonic maximizer can do miracles. But i dont use anything like it in my primitive black metal project, just a stereo enhancer plugin from my DAW software.

Had to come back to this post.  I just bought that bundle yesterday, and got to play around with the Sonic Maximizer a little bit last night...and yes, it does a LOT.  And it's super-easy to use.  Can't wait to try out all the rest of the stuff in the bundle.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on September 28, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
On a more bloggy note (not Traynor related) it looks like I'll me moving back to Ohio, Cleveland to be exact.  Can't say I'll really miss Dallas a whole bunch.  The GF is there and, well, you know, that's how it is.  Ehhh, none of these southerners really get a Buckeye with a strong punk streak?! Go figure.  Also, when I sell the house that I was robbed and kidnapped in I'll be closing one of those kind of chapters of my life. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on September 28, 2013, 10:03:46 AM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 28, 2013, 11:15:20 AM
Sounds like a good thing dogfood :) good luck!

I saw Carlton Melton last night, what an inspiration, I saw Rich after and told him it was like watching a masterclass, the drummer is shithot too!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 28, 2013, 01:44:42 PM
2 days off starting tomorrow.  It'll be another synth frek out weekend with of course guitars and drums too.  Still learning these things.  Still need to get an interface and midi sync this shit up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Headshrinker on September 28, 2013, 08:06:54 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 24, 2013, 09:49:38 PM
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/CircusFreak000/INTO%20THE%20UNFATHOMABLE%20ABYSS/IMG_2389_zpsab4c4f57.jpg)

Evil.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on September 29, 2013, 12:47:07 PM
Quote from: dogfood on September 28, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
On a more bloggy note (not Traynor related) it looks like I'll me moving back to Ohio, Cleveland to be exact.  Can't say I'll really miss Dallas a whole bunch.  The GF is there and, well, you know, that's how it is.  Ehhh, none of these southerners really get a Buckeye with a strong punk streak?! Go figure.  Also, when I sell the house that I was robbed and kidnapped in I'll be closing one of those kind of chapters of my life. 

Good luck, buddy. I don't blame you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 29, 2013, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: dogfood on September 28, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
On a more bloggy note (not Traynor related) it looks like I'll me moving back to Ohio, Cleveland to be exact.  Can't say I'll really miss Dallas a whole bunch.  The GF is there and, well, you know, that's how it is.  Ehhh, none of these southerners really get a Buckeye with a strong punk streak?! Go figure.  Also, when I sell the house that I was robbed and kidnapped in I'll be closing one of those kind of chapters of my life.  

pm me if you need to talk about clevo stuff, for example: like where you should or should not be looking for a house/apt/condo.  btw, that crazy gang shit is unheard of here.  one thing I know is that clevo is layed out east -west due to lake erie. try your damnedest to live east of where you work. I am dead serious. the fucking sun.

edit: if you were originally from here, nm thee above post, heh ,and welcome back...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 01, 2013, 11:49:46 AM
How did the synth freak out go Rager? ;)

Shrinker that's Charlie one of my rabbits she's awesome :)

I'm thinking of ordering a Matamp, the only problem is I think I want a Model T more, Matamp is only two hours drive away and near my practise rooms, the Model T's are mysteriously hidden away and I may not even see one for sale for months...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 01, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
Synth Freakout Weekend still going as I took today off too.  Packing bowls and cooking and emanating weird sounds from my basement for 3 days straight.  Fuck the neighbors.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 01, 2013, 09:10:28 PM
View from my seat right now.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/wall_zpsdfd3b64a.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/wall_zpsdfd3b64a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 02, 2013, 02:14:39 AM
rager, are you playing those synths through your guitar stacks?  I refused to play my synth through my son's stack  after about about 30 seconds because it sounds horribly distorted and bandpass style freq range (big peavey XXX through a hartke cab, not even close to maxxed and all 4 speakers are good).

this is where foxxen and I cross swords: where do you need sound CREATION and where do yuou need sound REPRODUCTION

you need an accurate reproducer to imitate audio content exactly. example: listen to some fine vinyl through your stacks. it will sound like ass. your stacks are for CREATING new sound in combo with guitar (or synth if you are going for that sound). If you really want to hear your synths in all their glory only run them through PA/your recording nearfields/stereo system or something else built for accurate reproduction.

I am currently moving a pile of stereo to my son's music room so he can run my synth or later we run vocals,or backing tracks to jam at volume on drums for him through a PA.  next up. a pair of 300w/ch crown power amps and more mics for the drum set.    I have 2 awesome cerwin vega 12" 3-ways that are built for 300w/ch and a hybrid  bi=amped system which is built to take about 600w/side but I will use a 100w/ch on the hi's and 300w/ch on the subs.

THIS is what will make the synths sound godly again in all their full freq range, freq balance, and most importantly clarity and detail from the synth itself.
700w/ch through a righteous STEREO/PA type system.   you wont even know what bass is until you can do 30hz reasonably flat at mucho db's

Now that my son has seen the light that USB is a toy not for serious recording , but my multitrack deck is,and we now can record a fully mic'd drum set.  going to get that 4 mic kit from shure for the drums (3-57's and a kick mic +stands and cables for $400)[only have 2 57's and a large diaph condenser and an akg 57 clone between the 2 of us]

one more bone to throw you rager: master MIDI timeclock.  can also be master clocked via digital and word clock etc. MIDI drifts badly and is a slow comms convention.
"one master to run them all" the rest is highly gear and desired routing/result you specifically want as to the best sync method.


oh btw, wait till y'all see my prototype gear that doesn't exist. it is for additional control of multiple synths. aimed at 1-man show stuff(me) or the noiz boiz and their piles of synths, that's the hint. working out the mechanical shit. always the mechanical crap sucks, especially when you don't have a fully loaded machine shop at work anymore

************************************************************************************************************************

BACKING TRACKS.   my new love heh.    how lazy can i be to put on pink floyd or santana, lean back, a way back and jam , jam , jam

i even bookmarked this audio heroin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgSX11I2uRE

and there are tons. many flavors and keys.  fuckin a.

********************************************************************************************************

and sunno, dont even start with your horseshit regarding my OPINIONS on what makes a synth sound good. it's my opinion. it is not on the table for your judgement.  in fact, please dont ever post or respond to anything i ever post. that would be awesome. pretend i dont exist. you start more shitstorms in here than anyone else. ironic.  so let's try that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on October 02, 2013, 05:55:39 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1230093_265115600279795_2021948870_n.jpg)

Album recording rig, I ended up using the Lionheart head through the 4x12". Used a Pharaoh and a black Muff boosted with a Dano Cool Cat drive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 02, 2013, 06:45:10 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 02, 2013, 11:54:37 AM
running that synth thru your guitar speakers is an excellent way to blow them. im not kidding.
too much bass for those speakers to handle. I went to a pawn shop and bought a peavey keyboard amp for $50.
Bonus: it has four channels and doubles as my practice space PA. not the best but it works and was only $50, we used the money from one of my old bands first shows to pay for it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 02, 2013, 01:13:04 PM
Everyone seems to make the immediate assumption that since there are guitar amps and cabs in the picture along with a synth that I'm using those for the synth.  The synths go through the PA which is not in the picture but does actually exist.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on October 02, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
How dare everyone do that! Those fuckin fucks need to stop trying to be helpful and fuck right the fuck off.

Fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on October 02, 2013, 01:30:46 PM
Synths through decent valves amps is cool. If you use guitar speakers for the colour, just have to be aware of your frequency output, if you have decent control in the synth, should be able to high pass, and a high pass isn't hard to rig anyway. ANTA and Pigshackle are synth heavy and use Burman valve rigs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 02, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
Three, maybe even four opportunities right now to get into bands/projects.

From famine to feast & all that...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 02, 2013, 05:16:54 PM
the picture invited the helpful warnings.
sidenote: my micro-korg thrashed a practice PA in someone elses space too. that sub bass patch is a speaker flubber.
whatevs tho, let em rip  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 02, 2013, 10:09:51 PM
Early next week will be trying out a bassist for Ocean of Stars.

Not very familiar with this individual as a player, but has the right energy as a person and digs the music. See what happens...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 04, 2013, 07:08:43 AM
We played a show last night and I have no idea how we sounded, I'm finding bigger venues tough because the sound seems to go flying off, we were mic'd up through the PA but being behind the speakers and not out front with the crowd you can't hear how it really sounds, my stack mostly just sounded like massive noise in my ears and I've still never played a show where I was 100% happy with the tone of my leads, I'm really still getting on my feet with playing live and I hope I'll grow into it more. I kept putting it off thinking I didn't want to until I was fully ready but as John said, the only way to become fully ready is to start doing it. Will I get better or am I just not destined to do it, I don't know, all I know is that I have to keep going for those guys, it's what they love most, I prefer the writing side of things and hiding away at home making things just right for myself but live is more unpredictable, I hate it when I'm not 100% happy with my tone but some venues or different cabs can really throw a spanner in the works, is that normal? Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the hell out of it but there was an undercurrent of uncertainty that I wish I could shake off!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on October 04, 2013, 07:40:36 AM
Were there no monitors? Sounds like you were a victim of a shitty soundguy and/or PA set-up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on October 04, 2013, 08:16:12 AM
I've owned my BAT Black Forest for a year now.  It's still my favourite pedal in the chain.  When I turn it on, it turns me on.  Mark, thank you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on October 04, 2013, 08:34:43 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on October 04, 2013, 07:08:43 AM
We played a show last night and I have no idea how we sounded, I'm finding bigger venues tough because the sound seems to go flying off, we were mic'd up through the PA but being behind the speakers and not out front with the crowd you can't hear how it really sounds, my stack mostly just sounded like massive noise in my ears and I've still never played a show where I was 100% happy with the tone of my leads, I'm really still getting on my feet with playing live and I hope I'll grow into it more. I kept putting it off thinking I didn't want to until I was fully ready but as John said, the only way to become fully ready is to start doing it. Will I get better or am I just not destined to do it, I don't know, all I know is that I have to keep going for those guys, it's what they love most, I prefer the writing side of things and hiding away at home making things just right for myself but live is more unpredictable, I hate it when I'm not 100% happy with my tone but some venues or different cabs can really throw a spanner in the works, is that normal? Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the hell out of it but there was an undercurrent of uncertainty that I wish I could shake off!

You will get better and the only way to get better at playing live is to play live.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 04, 2013, 10:31:34 AM
I might be projecting, but some people just don't enjoy playing live and I'm one of them.  I don't hate it, just don't find it very fun.  I'm not that nervous (after doing it for awhile).   People claim to live for being on stage but it just doesn't do anything for me.  Maybe it would be different in front of 1000+ people, but I don't see that ever happening.

If it's just a tone thing then that is easy enough to solve.  You just need to take time at practice and really focus on getting an even sounding BAND (not just guitar) and be willing to turn knobs to places you don't normally turn them.  Just experiment.  My goal is to have our sound so good that it makes the soundman's job as easy as possible.  Slap some mic's on the drums and cabs, adjust volume, go.  Unless they do wacky things with the EQ or reverb they can't really fuck up our sound too bad.  We've gotten comments from more than one soundman about how good our tone is and I think the key to that is two things:  1)  Much lower gain than most bands (which may not work with your music, but might surprise you too) and 2)  Do not scoop the mids out of the guitars.  It may not work for everyone and I'm sure you can do both of those things and still pull off a good tone, but it's an easy rule of thumb that works for us.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 04, 2013, 01:16:18 PM
If there were monitors then it was probably a bigger room I'm guessing?  How was the attendance?  If it was low then you match big amps through mains and monitors without a lot of bodies to soak up some freqs and shit just bounces everywhere.

Good input from above too.^^
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 04, 2013, 11:41:37 PM
jem..remember this..you will never be completely happy with your live sound because in venues where you are going through a house pa and theres a sound guy, you are not in control. plain and simple.
I love the unpredictability of the live show. I look to embrace it maybe even tame it to a degree but you cannot control it. there are way too many variables that come into play. you have to be able to react to anything. bad sound, shitty monitor mix, weird venues, people throwing things at you..actually you probably dont get that but I have in the past..haha. expect the unexpected and have FUN with it. its all about the experience and you cant expect people watching you to have fun if youre not..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on October 05, 2013, 01:44:41 PM
Dental Fucking Surgery.   :'(

I was communicating with a college friend of mine who lives in LA and it struck me that I want to live near him so we can make music together.  He was like many of us, rock guitarist, and then he got hooked on bluegrass.  Now he plays upright bass and jams/gigs with folk/bluegrass/roots dudes.  And, his musicianship is getting there.  He left me in the dust.  I'd like to be recording his playing and helping him get his shit out there.  One day soon he will be a working musician.  And he will be able to stop cleaning Woody Harrelson's brothers pool. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 05, 2013, 01:57:00 PM
Busy as hell tonight and tomorrow.

Filling in on bass for my previous full time project Eric Tessmer Band. Now looks like we're pulling a double, back to back 3+ hour sets in neighboring venues.

Then have to be at an 11:30am rehearsal with another project next morning 30 or so miles away, playing guitar. Will get out of that and haul ass back into town for a 4:30 short set on bass with another band.

My body will be hurting, but my bank account will be telling it to stop being such a pussy.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 05, 2013, 02:00:03 PM
Synth freakout again tonight and tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on October 05, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
Tried out a drummer today. Kind of metal and busy, but competant, and there was plenty of space to fill due to guitarist failing to show up. Bonus fail points for guitarist due to the fact he lives with me, yet still failed to show for the drive over to the practice space.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 05, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
Give him THE SHAPE!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on October 05, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
Bonus Fail Points!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 06, 2013, 03:08:31 AM
my sis was up from Ashland to deal with her house up this way and she brought my nephew up.  He is very into music and plays bass in a little HS band.  he is fearless, which is something I sort of envy. anyway. he plays bass through this little rumble 30w combo with a pedal to wring every db of midrange crap out of it and almost be heard. my thought: "aw hell naw"
(http://assets.fender.com/frl/eeed98eb16e8562b86e7d5ba871009bb/generated/ffaaedb5440c82321514517cff90b9eb.png)

also, he doesn't get up to guitar center often at all, so that in itself is a big deal. so I took him up to GC to play with the toys for a couple of hours.
What he didn't know was that I was going to surprise him with a better amp.  so we walked right past the hartke and mesa and orange and looked at fenders and acoustics, G-K, and some off brand bass combos. well this acoustic B200 was off the hook in that $500 price range. we sonically abused GC. I enjoyed that.
"here check out this stingray just to really mess your head up regarding what an awesome bass feels like" haha dammit I want one of those now too. that wasn't supposed to happen. this was a "NO G.A.S. for moi" day

acoustic B200mkII
(http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/Acoustic/DV016_Jpg_Large_1335797396443_A.jpg)

so while he was messing around with all the other stuff, the sales dude and I bought it and snuck it out to the car into the back seat. my nephew didn't notice when we were leaving that there was now this giant box in the back seat (of a corolla). I was laughing.  halfway back to the house I was just reviewing what amps he heard and liked, with him, when he talked about that sick acoustic.  " so you really like that one huh?" "ya that thing was sick" "look in the back seat" "NO FUCKING WAY!" hahaha

I ran my schecter with th e active pups through it for the hell of it. it has input gain and a whole 'nother overdrive section. the 6 band eq with the massive distortion made some crazy sounds with the guitar.  so bonus, he could easily use it for guitar practice too. sounded fine clean too.


epilog:
I will never get my new turntable, but when he turned around in the car and went "no fucking way!" =priceless

I played with a tele and a LP studio(cuz I have those) through a 5 watt bogen for $199.....i'm going back for it. I wailed on that thing . it sounded wicked. but that day was not for me, so it stayed at the store. (actually black Friday and wtf Monday are onle 6-7 weeks away. I scored 2watt fender gretas for 1/2 price last year..i bet some more tube amps will be available for scoring . especially because tube amps are getting really mainstream again and china is on that shit like flies.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 06, 2013, 12:50:07 PM
Good on you jib.  Super cool.  When I got my nephew guitar amp distortion pedal a while back he was ecstatic.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 06, 2013, 12:51:03 PM
I'm auditioning for a guitar spot today.

That oughtta at least be good for blowing the dust off the big rig...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 06, 2013, 05:02:37 PM
That's awesome jibb! He'll never forget that :D

Thanks for the thoughts guys, I think I just need these experiences to learn from, I need to work on my tone and put more thought into setting up volume and tone for bigger venues, iv only had this problem in bigger places, small ones are fine. I might need a complete tone/pedal overhaul, sometimes I think I have waaay too much gain from my overdrive and on the amp, I hate my dd3 delay if I'm honest, and I'm really limited as to the settings I can use on my amp without my leads going out of control with feedback. I'll get there heh (;
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 06, 2013, 08:30:57 PM
I'll take that dd3.  It's a good delay.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 06, 2013, 08:44:33 PM
feedback can be your friend. its a major part of our sound..haha. sometimes its all we do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 06, 2013, 09:00:44 PM
Well, I guess I passed the audition, but it looks like they want to scrap their material & start fresh, which is appealing to me because I can be involved in the writing process.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 06, 2013, 09:03:16 PM
what kind of band??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 06, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
Power trio. The direction is sounding more "stoner"/less "doom" than SANDIA MAN. More jammy/groovy than SM's lurching & pummeling.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on October 06, 2013, 11:05:27 PM
Goddammit, I'm fucking done with Tracktion 4.  Ever since I upgraded, it has been nothing but a constant shitstorm of trouble.  It crashes around 30% of the time you play a track back, can't work well with BFD2 drums, and now it has started loading only 4 or so kit-pieces when I bring the track up, after saving all of the data before closing it the previous time.  On top of that, when I re-load the kit, now the snare sounds like a hollow piece of shit even though it has the EXACT same settings as another track, in which it sounds great.

And their customer service is horrible...on top of that, hardly anyone uses it, so getting videos or other tutorials on specific things with it is almost futile.  I originally went with Tracktion (and had fewer issues with Tracktion 3, but they switched companies, and now I can't even use the software I originally bought any more) because it was supposed to be so simple to use...but now I'm checking around to see what DAW to go with next.  One that is actually popular enough that I can get useful advice when I have a problem, like ProTools, Cubase, or some shit.  Spent most of the day finally figuring out how to get each kit-piece on the drums assigned to a different track, and then all of a sudden...crazy, unexplainable glitches out of nowhere that will force me to start all over again.  Almost all of the work I've put in over the last few months is suddenly fucking wiped out.  Other than the knowledge I gained about getting better guitar/bass sounds, etc...FUCK!!!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 07, 2013, 01:30:05 AM
Those new run Acoustics have some bang for your buck. I gigged for awhile with a B200H (the head version of that combo) while my SVT was getting fixed and was happy with it.

Then it just stopped working. If I had the money I'd get it fixed, take it out of the box and put it in my rack case as a backup.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 07, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
Fuse?  Wire off some place?  Open 'er up and take a look.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 07, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: black aspirin on October 06, 2013, 11:05:27 PM
Goddammit, I'm fucking done with Tracktion 4.  Ever since I upgraded, it has been nothing but a constant shitstorm of trouble.  It crashes around 30% of the time you play a track back, can't work well with BFD2 drums, and now it has started loading only 4 or so kit-pieces when I bring the track up, after saving all of the data before closing it the previous time.  On top of that, when I re-load the kit, now the snare sounds like a hollow piece of shit even though it has the EXACT same settings as another track, in which it sounds great.

And their customer service is horrible...on top of that, hardly anyone uses it, so getting videos or other tutorials on specific things with it is almost futile.  I originally went with Tracktion (and had fewer issues with Tracktion 3, but they switched companies, and now I can't even use the software I originally bought any more) because it was supposed to be so simple to use...but now I'm checking around to see what DAW to go with next.  One that is actually popular enough that I can get useful advice when I have a problem, like ProTools, Cubase, or some shit.  Spent most of the day finally figuring out how to get each kit-piece on the drums assigned to a different track, and then all of a sudden...crazy, unexplainable glitches out of nowhere that will force me to start all over again.  Almost all of the work I've put in over the last few months is suddenly fucking wiped out.  Other than the knowledge I gained about getting better guitar/bass sounds, etc...FUCK!!!



Get Reaper!  It's basically free (an unlimited trial), there are tons of tutorials and plug ins, it's easy to use, and it's stable.  It sounds like you might be having low-performance computer issues.  On my old computer the VSTi drum tracks would only partially load at first and then once the computer had time to load everything into RAM it would start populating all the sounds.  Anyway, get Reaper RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 07, 2013, 11:38:41 AM
I've opened it up 2-3 times and nothing looks amiss.

Powers up, but the peak light stays on and no sound comes out of it.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 07, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
Def a doo hickey gone wonky in there then.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 07, 2013, 01:07:06 PM
You do have a point mort ;) sometimes feedback is awesome..

Rager would you not prefer to buy the dd3 where you are for better postage costs? I have to sell mine and obtain another as closely as possible I don't want to be caught out without one, if you seriously want it name your price ;)

aspirin I could not recommend studio one enough! :)

Power trio!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 07, 2013, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: RAGER on October 07, 2013, 11:58:08 AM
Def a doo hickey gone wonky in there then.

Ain't dat da troof. I'm just hoping it doesn't cost more to fix than what I originally paid for it


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on October 07, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
So, my friend who plays guitar and sings in Mental Waste has rheumatoid arthritis. He got diagnosed several months ago, but it's for sure now, they ruled everything else out. We recorded 10 songs for a split over a year ago, wrote a few new songs and recorded one in January for a compilation, but nothing since then. He has so many problems with joint pain in his arms, shoulders and wrists that he doesn't really feel like picking up a guitar most of the time now. We've always been a very low key band, recording only and no expectation of gigs, but now we're pretty much dead in the water. As slow as we have gotten stuff done so far, we've actually done way more than any other band I'm involved with. Just because there's no b.s., minimal members, once we start working on music it's done and ready to release pretty fast. Now I'm wondering if I should offer to pick up the guitar and primary writing duties and have him just write lyrics and sing, hang in there and see if we can ever get around to writing new material again or just dissolve the band. Personally I care more about his health than the band, but as of now I have 3 bands for over a year with releases seemingly eternally in progress, never writing new material, rarely practicing, never playing shows and usually with at least one member who can't really participate full time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 08, 2013, 12:18:10 AM
http://therochesterinsomniac.com/2013/10/01/pairing-up-guides-to-local-music/ (http://therochesterinsomniac.com/2013/10/01/pairing-up-guides-to-local-music/)
the pairing of bands to drugs. this is a cool article..my power electronics band, foot and mouth disease got mentioned. :)
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Post by: JemDooM on October 08, 2013, 01:15:25 PM
that is a fun article ;)

Corey sounds like you should definitely suggest that to him, he might be glad you did as its a way for him to carry on, that really really sucks...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 08, 2013, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on October 06, 2013, 11:05:27 PM
Goddammit, I'm fucking done with Tracktion 4.  Ever since I upgraded, it has been nothing but a constant shitstorm of trouble.  It crashes around 30% of the time you play a track back, can't work well with BFD2 drums, and now it has started loading only 4 or so kit-pieces when I bring the track up, after saving all of the data before closing it the previous time.  On top of that, when I re-load the kit, now the snare sounds like a hollow piece of shit even though it has the EXACT same settings as another track, in which it sounds great.

And their customer service is horrible...on top of that, hardly anyone uses it, so getting videos or other tutorials on specific things with it is almost futile.  I originally went with Tracktion (and had fewer issues with Tracktion 3, but they switched companies, and now I can't even use the software I originally bought any more) because it was supposed to be so simple to use...but now I'm checking around to see what DAW to go with next.  One that is actually popular enough that I can get useful advice when I have a problem, like ProTools, Cubase, or some shit.  Spent most of the day finally figuring out how to get each kit-piece on the drums assigned to a different track, and then all of a sudden...crazy, unexplainable glitches out of nowhere that will force me to start all over again.  Almost all of the work I've put in over the last few months is suddenly fucking wiped out.  Other than the knowledge I gained about getting better guitar/bass sounds, etc...FUCK!!!



customer servie is horibkle, their forum is run by a jackass too, or was at least.
Tracktio 2 was so fucking awesome...its was like a virtual porta-one  wiht unlimited tracks...juts obone simple ..perfect.
Then TRacktion 3 cme along adn added all this extra crap. I knew it was th beginning f the end and told them so, for which they banned me from their board LOL  :D
a couple months later the product was discontinued. i was shocked to see they had revived it and mad a trcktion 4 . Im dreading the day my ancient computer dies and I have to give up tracktion 3, and probably my toneport too.

next time I will go with a more universally used DAW, probably some version of pro tools.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 08, 2013, 07:00:00 PM
Might try out playing synth for a progy/metal/rock type band that's just starting oot.  I used to play in a band with one of the guitar players a few years ago.  They sent me 3 tunes to work on so we'll see.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on October 08, 2013, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on October 07, 2013, 10:31:06 AM

Get Reaper!  It's basically free (an unlimited trial), there are tons of tutorials and plug ins, it's easy to use, and it's stable.  It sounds like you might be having low-performance computer issues.  On my old computer the VSTi drum tracks would only partially load at first and then once the computer had time to load everything into RAM it would start populating all the sounds.  Anyway, get Reaper RIGHT NOW.

I might give Reaper a try.  When I sent the rep from Tracktion my log of crashes, he informed me that it was an internal issue with BFD2, and that I need to contact them as to why it's having problems with crashing, and using so much memory that it gives me memory error messages and won't always load all the kit pieces.

All I can say about my computer is that it's a brand-new iMac with 16GB total memory, and a little over 8GB of free space.  Perhaps I have something configured wrong, sure...but most of the advice from the Tracktion rep is, 'Here's a video on plug-in usage', or 'Here's a video on rack filters'.

The rack-filter thing seems to be the best solution, and I watched the video and read from the manual...but when I did everything exactly as laid out, the rack only connected with a little more than half of BFD2's outputs.  I pointed that out to the Tracktion rep, and he recommended the very same video I had used to get to that point without addressing why it only connected with some outputs and not others with any real answer.  So far, their protocol is, 'whatever they ask you, just recommend a video that's somewhere in the ballpark of the question, and hope they don't ask any more questions'.  All of this is just a total drain; I wanna have fun recording at home, and all I'm doing lately is dealing with one stupid computer glitch after another.

I guess for now, I will talk with FXPansion about BFD2 and the problems I'm having, tell them what I was told by the Tracktion rep, and see what happens.  But my suspicion is that each company will blame the other.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on October 08, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on October 07, 2013, 10:31:06 AM

Get Reaper!



+1.  While Cubase is still my primary daw, I use Reaper a lot. It's really easy to use, and the stock plugin package has some pretty cool stuff. Since it's free, there's really no reason not to at least try it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 09, 2013, 04:03:44 AM
Getting together with prospective bassist for Ocean of Stars tomorrow. Wish her luck.

Hope she kicks its ass cause I'm tired of looking for a darn bass player and want to finally start moving forward.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 09, 2013, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on October 08, 2013, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on October 07, 2013, 10:31:06 AM

Get Reaper!  It's basically free (an unlimited trial), there are tons of tutorials and plug ins, it's easy to use, and it's stable.  It sounds like you might be having low-performance computer issues.  On my old computer the VSTi drum tracks would only partially load at first and then once the computer had time to load everything into RAM it would start populating all the sounds.  Anyway, get Reaper RIGHT NOW.

I might give Reaper a try.  When I sent the rep from Tracktion my log of crashes, he informed me that it was an internal issue with BFD2, and that I need to contact them as to why it's having problems with crashing, and using so much memory that it gives me memory error messages and won't always load all the kit pieces.

All I can say about my computer is that it's a brand-new iMac with 16GB total memory, and a little over 8GB of free space.  Perhaps I have something configured wrong, sure...but most of the advice from the Tracktion rep is, 'Here's a video on plug-in usage', or 'Here's a video on rack filters'.

The rack-filter thing seems to be the best solution, and I watched the video and read from the manual...but when I did everything exactly as laid out, the rack only connected with a little more than half of BFD2's outputs.  I pointed that out to the Tracktion rep, and he recommended the very same video I had used to get to that point without addressing why it only connected with some outputs and not others with any real answer.  So far, their protocol is, 'whatever they ask you, just recommend a video that's somewhere in the ballpark of the question, and hope they don't ask any more questions'.  All of this is just a total drain; I wanna have fun recording at home, and all I'm doing lately is dealing with one stupid computer glitch after another.

I guess for now, I will talk with FXPansion about BFD2 and the problems I'm having, tell them what I was told by the Tracktion rep, and see what happens.  But my suspicion is that each company will blame the other.

for what little its worth I use EZdrummer and it loads fine on an ancient machine in T3. I dont send every drum to a separate track or antyhing tho, theres a mixer in the ezdrummer software if I wanna tweak the kit mix. the whole point of tracktion was supposed ot be its immediacy and ease of use. Theyve lost that vision as their product has evolved.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 09, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
I use ezdrummer within FLstudio. Then export it to Cubase. You can get really technical in FLstudio. Fuck all that reamp/digital cable crossing. I had the same problem, no reprocity between programs.

EDIT: perhaps some of your BFD kit is corrupted
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on October 10, 2013, 09:26:43 PM
Awesome.  So tech support for BFD2 tells me that I absolutely have to store its library on a separate audio hard-drive, or I can expect it to fuck up.  Looks like I'll be spending another $80-$100 or so just to find out whether that fixes the problems or not.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on October 11, 2013, 07:02:41 PM
I'm debating between purchasing another delay pedal that has looping capabilities (Boss DD7) or actually just getting a loop pedal (tc Electronic's Ditto).  Both are roughly in the same ball park for price.

*I'm currently running a Line 6 DL4 and a MXR Carbon Copy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on October 13, 2013, 08:48:13 PM
First gig in 12 years at an outdoor event yesterday. It went... poorly. Other dudes didn't know what to ask for in their monitors, people were lost. Despite being the 'new guy' I suppose I have to take more of a leadership role to make sure things go smoothly in the future. Tone-wise got a few compliments though, so gotta start somewhere.

I soothed my jangled nerves by hitting the Hookers/Pallbearer/Saint Vitus show, so all's well that ends well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on October 15, 2013, 11:36:18 AM
Saw Helms Alee last night without having heard them before. That fucking band fucking kicks fucking all kinds of fucking ass.


Fuck.





http://helmsalee.bandcamp.com (http://helmsalee.bandcamp.com)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 15, 2013, 12:22:31 PM
Yes.  Yes they do.  I posted a cover song in GD by them and all people did was tear it apart.  Idiots.

And if you didn't know already that's Ben Verellen of Verellen amps and Harkonen.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 15, 2013, 12:58:40 PM


I loved their video. especially the "cold november rain parody" part at the 3 minute mark.
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Post by: Jake on October 15, 2013, 03:44:37 PM
^^^ Wow. That is video spectacular.

I surfed through GD once since this "new" site went up and will never make that mistake again. Slagging on Helms Alee absolutely confirms my decision.
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Post by: the diddler on October 16, 2013, 07:17:57 AM
You get any merch at the show Jake?
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Post by: Zero on October 16, 2013, 10:38:28 AM
He got a red fang flannel

and a Helms Alee flannel

and some flannel
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Post by: the diddler on October 16, 2013, 10:49:54 AM
Shoulda got a beard, maybe they were sold out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 16, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: Jake on October 15, 2013, 03:44:37 PM
^^^ Wow. That is video spectacular.

I surfed through GD once since this "new" site went up and will never make that mistake again. Slagging on Helms Alee absolutely confirms my decision.

im not sure if they were discussed much in GD were they? I only know about them because they are local.
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Post by: Jake on October 17, 2013, 11:01:56 AM
I got the Weatherhead vinyl and a 7" split with Tacos! (who are also pretty great, I now know).

Funny you mention flannel merch, because I saw John Fogerty on Tuesday and he has 3-4 diff't flannels for sale. It seemed totally appropriate and hilarious. Shame they were $70.
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Post by: the diddler on October 17, 2013, 12:52:47 PM
Sweet- was hoping you got that Tacos! split.  My label put that out, though I didn't have much to do with that particular release.  Tacos! is two thirds of my old band, Swayze!- they changed the name when I quit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on October 17, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
No shit? Crazy. I'm sure you know Quon then, whom I met and chatted up a bit before & after the show. He also turned me onto Lozen, which I've been very much digging.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 17, 2013, 06:39:24 PM
My buds and ex bandmates (Gaytheist) are on this next batch of shows.  What did you think of Dogshredder?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on October 17, 2013, 06:59:10 PM
Epileptic. In a good way. Drummer was playing the shit out of his kit and making it look effortless.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on October 17, 2013, 07:28:35 PM
Yes, Quan Fi & I are non-sexual lifepartners (he's 1/3 of the Violent Hippy label).  Lozen's Para Vida record is the jam- best thing they've done and it's on their own Silent Queef label, which of course rules.

Gaytheist is rad- I should be seeing them again Saturday, assuming I don't fuck something up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on October 17, 2013, 10:01:44 PM
Does anyone else have the problem of doing stupid faces when they play guitar?  I apparently have been.  It's gotten so bad that my jaw hurts and my teeth feel all out of whack because of it.
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Post by: jibberish on October 18, 2013, 01:51:42 AM
Quote from: johnny problem on October 17, 2013, 10:01:44 PM
Does anyone else have the problem of doing stupid faces when they play guitar?  I apparently have been.  It's gotten so bad that my jaw hurts and my teeth feel all out of whack because of it.

no heh, but sometimes I forget to breathe when i'm really focusing on playing. I have to pay more attention to that so i'm not standing there gasping for a few sec haha.

fwiw, my tele is the fastest guitar I have.  that neck is great.

also now working on the "twitch" method of tremolo picking.  quite possibly the most unnatural motion I have ever tried to make, but the payoff will be huge: faster and longer tremolo picking ability


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Post by: JemDooM on October 18, 2013, 05:09:49 AM
I hope I don't have that problem johnny! It's awesome when people make faces tho, totally!

I need to practise my tremolo too, I'm pretty happy with it now but it's the kind of thing that could be much better with loads of practise, I'm just glad I don't get repetitive strain injury anymore because that really hurt, I put more of the energy into my lower arm and out of the wrist and remember to relax, I need loads of work on my tremoloing of chords tho, that could be loads tighter!

Need to spend today learning Celtic Frost covers, we're dressing up as them for a Halloween gig it's gonna be so much fun ;)
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Post by: jibberish on October 18, 2013, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on October 18, 2013, 05:09:49 AM

I need loads of work on my tremoloing of chords tho, that could be loads tighter!


just when I don't have enough techniques and patterns to buffalo me while trying to learn them, I need to try this too now.

I like chords. I came into guitar from being a "fake book" piano player: left hand chords, right hand melody.  learning to see a riff was the hardest thing for me to do.  I just couldn't get it for a long time. but chords, I could always see the chords.   funny thing, from playing guitar, which imo, all RH guits are really LH guits, my left hand is a skilled as my right hand for melody stuff vs just chords on a keyboard. like now I can play a bass line or some cool arpeggiated thing vs chunking on the chords haha.

so maybe I try learning that "chestnuts roasting on an open fire " song on the keyboard for real this time...of course the words will be different cuz that's what I do...small stretch to "bolt's nuts roasting on an open fire, l ron sucking on his toes..." and so on and so forth ...

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 18, 2013, 12:33:19 PM
Been working on that also with my MiniBrute.  It being monophonic and all I try mainly to play it with my left hand but switching once in a while to use the pitch and mod wheels.  Was learning bits of "Tarot Woman" the other day.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 18, 2013, 05:50:05 PM
there HAS to be another slick way to control auxiliary controls on synths. the mod/bend/portamento etc stuff needs extra hands, and that's just for 1 synth

like could a mercury switch be mounted on a hat so you could tip your head and activate something, or I wish those brain control dudes would shake a leg and get a little hat with a half dozen brain controllable outputs heh. SOMETHING dammit. maybe mod a paraplegic wheelchair control or  wire a wii controller into a wireless network connection idk.

frustrating, or worse when there are knobs that need tweaking in synch with the mod wheeling and sustaining.

envelopes and arpeggiators don't do it all. manual inflection is key also.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 18, 2013, 06:39:02 PM
they do have expression pedals.  I just got one with my Moog Ringmod.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 19, 2013, 01:39:22 AM
Quote from: RAGER on October 18, 2013, 06:39:02 PM
they do have expression pedals.  I just got one with my Moog Ringmod.

I have been kicking this problem around for a while. my feet are needed for sustain pedals and possibly a MIDI controller when I figure out how to down and dirty mod a cheap midi kybd for footpedal action.

the piece of unique gear I am working on is a multiple sustain pedal setup, but they can be latched, then all released with one other pedal. thinking realtime performance issues here. I don't have enough feet and hands to git er done..im thinking beyond that...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 19, 2013, 04:08:27 AM
Rooms can be tricky. Dialed in my more mids halfway through out set tonight so my guitar would cut better.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on October 19, 2013, 04:23:43 AM
Anyone have any tricks to reduce nervousness before and during a set? We went on last tonight and I was so nervous that I couldn't really enjoy myself much during the other bands. I think it's related to my struggles with singing and playing guitar at the same time. Only doing one would be a lot easier and much more enjoyable. We've altered our set so that we play an easy song first and that helps build confidence but the harder ones sometimes send me into loop of being extra nervous which makes me fuck up more and fucking up makes me more nervous which makes me fuck up more. And by fucking up I mean forgetting lyrics and sloppy fretting and picking. Playing live is supposed to be fun. It is minus the panicking and sometimes extreme anxiety. Beer helps but too much beer and I fuck up more which... well you know. No beer would be unthinkable.
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Post by: Chovie D on October 19, 2013, 10:59:40 AM
nervous?

confidence cures it eventually.
also....Ive found that 2 beers before you play will take the edge off. 3 is one too many.
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Post by: Cursed71 on October 19, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
I hear ya on the singing and playing at the same time.   Adderall?
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Post by: jibberish on October 19, 2013, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 19, 2013, 04:23:43 AM
Anyone have any tricks to reduce nervousness before and during a set?

ok, plan a sucks so we won't even discuss it. I know it works because I was a plan a case. ok..moving right along

plan b.

know your shit so cold you can whip it out anywhere anytime and be proud of it and not be nervous. heh.

I practice the hell out of singing and playing. so you practice your deal over and over until the streams of the two separate parts merge and you can see both with your mind's eye no problem.  once you have it cold there is nothing to be nervous about.

so bottom line: my useless opinion is just practice it until it is so easy it is boring.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 19, 2013, 12:39:06 PM
Yep.  Practice and repetition are the only way.  maybe write some simpler stuff until you get the hang of playing live.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 19, 2013, 05:07:04 PM
I know you guys are right, practicing more and knowing the material so well that you can do it drunk, super tired, sick, whatever and not have to worry about forgetting anything or hitting wrong frets. Holy fuck though, practicing that much is so boring and partly kills the songs for me. My memory is pretty terrible too so if I haven't practiced in few weeks things start to fade. It is what it is though, I either do what I have to do or I fuck up and am nervous etc. It doesn't help that I'm mediocre at best on guitar and vocals. I'm not sure if I have it in me to continue doing double duty. The idea of just playing guitar is very appealing, that would be serious fun. Finding the right singer though? Potentially impossible. I really enjoy doing both on the easy songs but still fear forgetting lyrics. I was in a play in 6th grade and had all of my lines nailed perfectly, no idea how I remembered all that stuff.

I have some thinking to do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on October 20, 2013, 01:44:09 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 19, 2013, 04:23:43 AM
Anyone have any tricks to reduce nervousness before and during a set?

Beta blockers. And practice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 20, 2013, 02:12:39 AM
oh ya, one last thing...just sing more too. more singing gets you more used to singing and you can hold more songs and lyrics in your head because you are more used to it. 8D

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Post by: jibberish on October 20, 2013, 02:27:00 AM
different topic.  it is turning out that grabbing those fender greta 2w combo amps last year was a stellar move.

they sound nice, they are very quiet for a tube amp, and the line in, line out and speaker out all make this amp super useful. I never really liked my old kustom 30w12" combo UNTIL I ran the greta line out into it.  WAAAAAHHH what a beast.  the line out feeds a mixer board just fine too. actually it is pretty hot line level.

speaker out to run the 4x12 is sweet. so mean and soooo low volume it almost messes you up.

if GC throws those again this winter for $100 each, I highly recommend getting one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 20, 2013, 10:49:20 AM
For getting rid of nervousness I recommend stopping all stimulants including the beer.  You might loose some control of your abilities after beer and that makes you more nervous.

if you drink coffee, stop that too, and cigarrettes; they are known to cause panic/nervousness.  Do you have anxiety disorder that happens for other parts of your life?  if so you may want to look into natural herbs that might help.

also try to relax and visualize what you sing/play before you do it.  practice makes perfect!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 20, 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Smokey I don't blame you for being anxious, vocals and guitar is really hard and few people can do it. Don't think of yourself as being mediocre as that definetly will make you nervous, be proud of the fact that you can write music, that you can do vocals and play guitar at the same time, and that you have the balls to get onstage and do that in the first place, like I said, most people can't. I could very easily get anxious if I let myself but when I feel it coming on I think the following things...

Fuck it
Learn to let go
It doesn't matter as much to other people as it does to you
This is a young band, mistakes/sloppiness can be forgiven
People won't notice every little mistake like you will
Mistakes/accidents can sometimes be cool and add to the excitement
It's not nerves its excitement
Would you rather be sat at home doing nothing?
Even if everyone hates it, think of the one person in the room who loves it
I might be rubbish now but one day I'll be killing it, then people will forgive me
No seriously, fuck it!!

;)

One thing iv found, and it still surprises me every time without fail is the positive feedback when I come offstage, that tells me that all this thinking I'm mediocre/sloppy etc, maybe I'm wrong, it's just anxiety making you think the worst of yourself, either way, if you want to do it just do it and you might aswell not give yourself a hard time over it because like you said it's supposed to be fun...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 21, 2013, 07:50:36 AM
Also, think of what would be produced if you handed your guitar to someone who's never played and sang before. You're up there doing it and that alone is a huge accomplishment.

That, and think like a plumber. Do plumbers get nervous when they fix a toilet? No, it's what they do.

Find your inner plumber, and go fix that toilet \m/,


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Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 21, 2013, 09:47:23 AM
Plumber analogies are shitty. ;D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on October 21, 2013, 10:03:41 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on October 21, 2013, 09:47:23 AM
Plumber analogies are shitty. ;D

Wow, that joke went right down the drain.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 21, 2013, 11:15:58 AM
To be fair, there are a lot of crappy guitarists out there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 21, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
Urinal the threads lately aren't you?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on October 21, 2013, 02:07:48 PM
Stop it.





Just stop.





















Walk away from the keyboard.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 21, 2013, 05:08:02 PM
Party pooper.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 21, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on October 21, 2013, 05:08:02 PM
Party pooper.

:-[
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on October 21, 2013, 10:24:06 PM
Okay. That one was pretty clever.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 22, 2013, 12:27:09 AM
Quote from: jibberish on October 20, 2013, 02:12:39 AM
oh ya, one last thing...just sing more too. more singing gets you more used to singing and you can hold more songs and lyrics in your head because you are more used to it. 8D

I agree. I should sing and play guitar way more than I do, fucking around, serious practice, learning songs from CDs, etc.

Quote from: everdrone on October 20, 2013, 10:49:20 AM
For getting rid of nervousness I recommend stopping all stimulants including the beer.  You might loose some control of your abilities after beer and that makes you more nervous.

if you drink coffee, stop that too, and cigarrettes; they are known to cause panic/nervousness.  Do you have anxiety disorder that happens for other parts of your life?  if so you may want to look into natural herbs that might help.

also try to relax and visualize what you sing/play before you do it.  practice makes perfect!

Good points. I've had anxiety issues my whole life. It's relatively under control now. What herbs can you recommend that wouldn't negatively affect my memory like alcohol does? I did the therapy/meds combo in my 20s and it helped tremendously.

Quote from: JemDooM on October 20, 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Smokey I don't blame you for being anxious, vocals and guitar is really hard and few people can do it. Don't think of yourself as being mediocre as that definetly will make you nervous, be proud of the fact that you can write music, that you can do vocals and play guitar at the same time, and that you have the balls to get onstage and do that in the first place, like I said, most people can't. I could very easily get anxious if I let myself but when I feel it coming on I think the following things...

Fuck it
Learn to let go
It doesn't matter as much to other people as it does to you
This is a young band, mistakes/sloppiness can be forgiven
People won't notice every little mistake like you will
Mistakes/accidents can sometimes be cool and add to the excitement
It's not nerves its excitement
Would you rather be sat at home doing nothing?
Even if everyone hates it, think of the one person in the room who loves it
I might be rubbish now but one day I'll be killing it, then people will forgive me
No seriously, fuck it!!

;)

One thing iv found, and it still surprises me every time without fail is the positive feedback when I come offstage, that tells me that all this thinking I'm mediocre/sloppy etc, maybe I'm wrong, it's just anxiety making you think the worst of yourself, either way, if you want to do it just do it and you might aswell not give yourself a hard time over it because like you said it's supposed to be fun...

:)

Quote from: Danny G on October 21, 2013, 07:50:36 AM
Also, think of what would be produced if you handed your guitar to someone who's never played and sang before. You're up there doing it and that alone is a huge accomplishment.

That, and think like a plumber. Do plumbers get nervous when they fix a toilet? No, it's what they do.

Find your inner plumber, and go fix that toilet \m/,

I like this.

Quote from: RacerX on October 21, 2013, 11:15:58 AM
To be fair, there are a lot of crappy guitarists out there.

Relative to probably 95% of guitarists in bands that actually record albums or play out on a semi-regular basis I'm crappy however I don't think I usually sound crappy playing my own stuff and I do think I'm a good riff writer at least. To conceal my mediocrity I play it safe with leads and the chords I play are all power chords. To be fair I don't have much desire to play other types of chords with my current band. If I was doing more '60/70s sounding stuff the lack of actual chords would be very apparent.


I'll spare everyone my physical excuses. Actually I'm pretty sure I've mentioned them in past threads.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 22, 2013, 12:41:31 AM
Technique and masturbatory noodling is always trumped by simple, catchy melodies that get stuck in your head.

Keep it simple. Simple is always better.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 22, 2013, 01:36:05 AM
Quote from: Danny G on October 22, 2013, 12:41:31 AM
Technique and masturbatory noodling is always trumped by simple, catchy melodies that get stuck in your head.

Keep it simple. Simple is always better.

Hmmm....







Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 22, 2013, 05:35:06 AM
hey liquid.   I was thinking of singing just at any and all times, like instead of whistling while you work, sing, or sing with headphones while you walk like this one black HS kid who walks by every day. dude is belting it out a' cappella for the whole world to hear. every day. He is actually good, but then again he sings every day for who knows how long.
anyway, you are just making vocals a more natural function. you know, double up when you are doing something else that leaves room for singing. and singing anything is ok.

my buddy , who is a lead singer by trade, sings along with everything all the time. I actually have to ask him to stop sometimes if we are critically listening to something.
but damn is he good. super comfy performing because he can sing better than he can walk.

in other words, beef up your vocal chops just like you do for your guitar chops.  I get real intimidated behind a mic real fast.   way more exposed with vocals. even if you are about to puke with nervousness, you can strum that powerchord the same as if your stomach was ok. I know, I hide more easily behind the guitar. but if you lose confidence during a song, oh man..scotty just beam me up now.   voice gets crappy, start second guessing your tone feel and miss notes and the whole thing spirals to hell.
im not kidding when I say I practice singing a lot,. it is so scary, but I have to do it. it is so much fun. haha.  I do it by repetition, total brute force.

fwiw, I get stuck in transitions between phrases more than anything..chord changes, load next verse of lyrics, more going on then.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 22, 2013, 11:20:02 PM
I hear ya and that is a good idea. I do some singing in my car along with CDs when my throat isn't toast from work and/or dry air. One more reason for a job change.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 23, 2013, 10:19:07 AM
Quotebeef up your vocal chops just like you do for your guitar chops

good point!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 23, 2013, 01:14:38 PM
A friend of mine says my vocals sound weak live but when I sing in front of him otherwise he says they sound good.  ???
Perhaps the PA isn't loud enough or frequencies are getting lost in the mix.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 23, 2013, 02:21:10 PM
Maybe practice mic technique?  Learning to regulate distance/angle to accommodate natural volume shifts is a skill in itself that requires probably as much thought/practice as singing itself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 23, 2013, 11:13:27 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on October 23, 2013, 02:21:10 PM
Maybe practice mic technique?  Learning to regulate distance/angle to accommodate natural volume shifts is a skill in itself that requires probably as much thought/practice as singing itself.

That is a good idea although while playing guitar it's a lot to think about and implement. I generally have my lips almost touching or slightly touching the mic(I bring my own to gigs) straight on and pretty much give it my all on every part while trying to avoid straining. If I had quiet parts nobody would hear them at all unless they were during an also quiet instrumental section. I sing in the pseudo bass/baritone to midrange which is probably harder to make out live along with loud B tuned guitar and bass vs high-mid to high range vocals.

I've probably produced a few face palms with this post. Our practice PA(vocals only) isn't even as loud as it should be for the band. I do my best.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 24, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
It's a lot to think about because you haven't practiced it a lot  :).  Playing guitar was a lot to think about when you first started learning too.  But I understand what you mean.  If you're constantly battling volume and trying to be as loud and un-dynamic as possible, mic technique doesn't probably apply much.  It must be hard to stay on pitch if you can't hear yourself very well.  For me that would be like playing a fretless guitar blindfolded and with earplugs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 24, 2013, 11:07:38 AM
About to take my stricken Acoustic B200H to a tech finally.

Hopefully what's wrong with it is something cheap and easy, cause I'd love to bring it back into service as a gig worthy backup/smaller gig amp.

I'd like to take it out of the enclosure and put it in my rack.




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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 24, 2013, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on October 24, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
It's a lot to think about because you haven't practiced it a lot  :).  Playing guitar was a lot to think about when you first started learning too.  But I understand what you mean.  If you're constantly battling volume and trying to be as loud and un-dynamic as possible, mic technique doesn't probably apply much.  It must be hard to stay on pitch if you can't hear yourself very well.  For me that would be like playing a fretless guitar blindfolded and with earplugs.

I've practiced quite a bit, just not as much as I should be.

I use an in ear monitor in my left ear so I can hear my vocals fairly well. It's a matter of how much guitar, drums, and bass I want destroying my hearing from that ear bud since the vocal mic pics up everything.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 24, 2013, 12:31:26 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 24, 2013, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on October 24, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
It's a lot to think about because you haven't practiced it a lot  :).  Playing guitar was a lot to think about when you first started learning too.  But I understand what you mean.  If you're constantly battling volume and trying to be as loud and un-dynamic as possible, mic technique doesn't probably apply much.  It must be hard to stay on pitch if you can't hear yourself very well.  For me that would be like playing a fretless guitar blindfolded and with earplugs.

I've practiced quite a bit, just not as much as I should be.

I use an in ear monitor in my left ear so I can hear my vocals fairly well. It's a matter of how much guitar, drums, and bass I want destroying my hearing from that ear bud since the vocal mic pics up everything.

Get a mic that doesn't. The Audix OM-2 works very well in high stage volume/close quarters situations.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 25, 2013, 01:21:23 AM
Quote from: RacerX on October 24, 2013, 12:31:26 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 24, 2013, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on October 24, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
It's a lot to think about because you haven't practiced it a lot  :).  Playing guitar was a lot to think about when you first started learning too.  But I understand what you mean.  If you're constantly battling volume and trying to be as loud and un-dynamic as possible, mic technique doesn't probably apply much.  It must be hard to stay on pitch if you can't hear yourself very well.  For me that would be like playing a fretless guitar blindfolded and with earplugs.

I've practiced quite a bit, just not as much as I should be.

I use an in ear monitor in my left ear so I can hear my vocals fairly well. It's a matter of how much guitar, drums, and bass I want destroying my hearing from that ear bud since the vocal mic pics up everything.

Get a mic that doesn't. The Audix OM-2 works very well in high stage volume/close quarters situations.

I will look into this mic. Currently using an SM-58.

edit: reviews say it's great and B&H sells it for $69.88. Will probably get one soon.

The version with the on/off switch is an extra $50 though, *gulp*.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on October 25, 2013, 07:55:17 AM
Is an on/off switch on a mic good for anything?  Just seems like everytime you grab the fucker between songs to scream "HOW YOU DOIN' SAN DIEGO???" or "LET ME SEE YO' LIGHTAHS OUT THERE!!!" you run the risk of hitting the switch
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 25, 2013, 12:08:42 PM
Yeah, fuck a switch, just unplug it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 25, 2013, 01:12:32 PM
Switches are nice at band practice when you are talking between songs. If one person's voice is booming out of the PA system it makes conversations kind of odd. One can always take a step back away from the mic of course, if you have the room to spare.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on October 25, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 25, 2013, 01:12:32 PM
Switches are nice at band practice when you are talking between songs. If one person's voice is booming out of the PA system it makes conversations kind of odd. One can always take a step back away from the mic of course, if you have the room to spare.

^This. I like em at practice, but they're nothing but a source of frustration at gigs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 25, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
I was using mine in conduction with a foot pedal fx unit with a kill switch. Worked very well except for the few times I forgot to turn off the effect while announcing the song. That's always...   

...eh, let's just say "interesting."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on October 25, 2013, 04:26:41 PM
Played a benefit show with one if those, and was halfway through a song when the organizer ran up and switched the damn thing on.  I didn't even notice.   There were so many bands, and everything was so rushed, that we/I didn't even check the mic.   Also...marijuana.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 26, 2013, 03:47:36 AM
Yeah it's one more thing to check at gigs. Once in awhile at practice I'll forget to switch it back on before we start a song.

The effects in my Boss vocal unit can be turned off and on with the foot pedals but there is no way to actually cut the sound without bending down and switching the present or the volume down to 0 or the unit off.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 26, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SignOff/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on October 26, 2013, 01:44:28 PM
Fuck , I bet if you were even reasonably handy that thing could be made for under 20 bucks.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 26, 2013, 01:50:31 PM
Yer probably right . It's just a latching lo-Z kill switch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on October 26, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
Found their schematic, super simple circuit.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/james1214/Screenshot_2013-10-26-10-50-09-1_zps28824267.png)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on October 26, 2013, 05:19:43 PM
Move an inch or two back from the mic and you'll sound less weak, proximity effect can work for some people but generally just sounds weaker for most, plus with you lips up against the mic they aren't moving/opening as much as they should. Just like with guitars it's about moving air. Most important for me is to make sure not to shout out stuff but go for big growly singing, I'm still pretty shit though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 26, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
How much I can hear myself in the monitors really affects how loud I sing.  If I hear too much of myself I tend to back off.  Just enough so i know I'm in key and I belt that shit out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 27, 2013, 11:59:42 PM
Quote from: moose23 on October 26, 2013, 05:19:43 PM
Move an inch or two back from the mic and you'll sound less weak, proximity effect can work for some people but generally just sounds weaker for most, plus with you lips up against the mic they aren't moving/opening as much as they should. Just like with guitars it's about moving air.

Ah. I'll give that a try.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on October 28, 2013, 04:29:22 AM
All of a sudden, we're a complete band. Drummer is switching to synths on his own insisting and we found another drummer. Never thought this would be so easy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on October 30, 2013, 10:22:14 AM
I have been getting complaints about cranking my 800 the past few times.

I think I am finally going to break down, selly valve junior combo, and just one of Tiny Terror heads or Jet City ones.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 30, 2013, 11:23:31 AM
Quote from: Instant Dan on October 30, 2013, 10:22:14 AM
I have been getting complaints about cranking my 800 the past few times.

I think I am finally going to break down, selly valve junior combo, and just one of Tiny Terror heads or Jet City ones.

Can't you pull power tubes on an 800 to tame the volume?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 30, 2013, 12:05:13 PM
Yeah, then you can yell back at them that you have turned down approximately -3db.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 30, 2013, 12:43:18 PM
Quote from: RAGER on October 30, 2013, 12:05:13 PM
Yeah, then you can yell back at them that you have turned down approximately -3db.

Exactly. 3 dB is an audible difference.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 30, 2013, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on October 30, 2013, 10:22:14 AM
I have been getting complaints about cranking my 800 the past few times.

I think I am finally going to break down, selly valve junior combo, and just one of Tiny Terror heads or Jet City ones.

Get new band/audience/family/whoever members instead.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 30, 2013, 02:48:14 PM
this forum needs a little spice, so boring lately.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 30, 2013, 04:03:03 PM
You want spice?

How about a guitar made of cinnamon wood?

(http://www.guitar-muse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/EJ-Body.jpg)

http://www.guitar-muse.com/guitar-review-eric-joseph-cinnamon-wood-guitar-5628
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Chovie D on October 30, 2013, 05:01:41 PM
didn't even think about cinnamon being a tree....far out maaan.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on October 31, 2013, 10:30:01 AM
My drummer's becoming a woman.  Chris is now Kristen.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 31, 2013, 10:36:44 AM
For realz?  Neato!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on October 31, 2013, 11:05:41 AM
yep, full-on hormone treatments and shit.  It's been going on for awhile- we're still having trouble adjusting our pronouns
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 31, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
Quote from: the diddler on October 31, 2013, 11:05:41 AM
we're still having trouble adjusting our pronouns

First world problems.  Ha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on November 03, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
that cinnamon guitar is sweet!!

hows the band going michael? :)

I have one of my busiest months for music yet, getting the album finished and off to James Plotkin, finishing recording and mixing for a split tape which we're self releasing in two weeks, making the jcard for said split spending probably 7+hours cutting and folding them all as like last time, the next two weekends practising with our drummer who lives over 2 hours away, a 5 day tour from Edinburgh to London, getting proper photography done, writing a press info pack as requested by the label, put together the design and artwork for the vinyl packaging and send everything off to the label for very early Dec, exciting and extremely busy times, totally did not plan for all this stuff to happen all at once! We're having Dec & Jan off completely but I'm looking forward to writing then, winter is a really inspiring time for doom :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 03, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
so my guitar player breaks out an old bc rich bass his brother gave him at our jam today as says to me.."you wanna do some dual bass shit". I have to say im fucking excited as hell with the results.. didn't see that coming  :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on November 03, 2013, 08:59:51 PM
Left field can be a cool place sometimes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 04, 2013, 05:51:28 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on November 03, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
that cinnamon guitar is sweet!!

hows the band going michael? :)

I have one of my busiest months for music yet, getting the album finished and off to James Plotkin, finishing recording and mixing for a split tape which we're self releasing in two weeks, making the jcard for said split spending probably 7+hours cutting and folding them all as like last time, the next two weekends practising with our drummer who lives over 2 hours away, a 5 day tour from Edinburgh to London, getting proper photography done, writing a press info pack as requested by the label, put together the design and artwork for the vinyl packaging and send everything off to the label for very early Dec, exciting and extremely busy times, totally did not plan for all this stuff to happen all at once! We're having Dec & Jan off completely but I'm looking forward to writing then, winter is a really inspiring time for doom :)
Band's going slow because of lack of rehearsals (fuck work schedules). We should rehearse next weekend, hopefully it works out. In the meantime I've been writing riffs at home. I think I'm at 2 songs (each 7 minutes give or take) and a cool outro. If we could rehearse more often, I'd even wager that we could record a simple EP in January.  ;D

Your album plans sound exciting and fun! I can't even imagine the experience of getting something like that out, must be awesome and very rewarding.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on November 06, 2013, 03:40:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2F6iIDozWY&sns=em

The guitarist of this band sent my bassist this the other day.   Very well made and super hilarious!   Thought it might get some of your creative juices oozing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 06, 2013, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Cursed71 on November 06, 2013, 03:40:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2F6iIDozWY&sns=em

The guitarist of this band sent my bassist this the other day.   Very well made and super hilarious!   Thought it might get some of your creative juices oozing.

I like the song. That guy(guitarist) looks familiar but I'm not sure where I've seen him before.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 06, 2013, 11:37:26 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 27, 2013, 11:59:42 PM
Quote from: moose23 on October 26, 2013, 05:19:43 PM
Move an inch or two back from the mic and you'll sound less weak, proximity effect can work for some people but generally just sounds weaker for most, plus with you lips up against the mic they aren't moving/opening as much as they should. Just like with guitars it's about moving air.

Ah. I'll give that a try.

I gave it a try and the result was way less volume which is not an option considering that my vocal PA is turned up as loud as it will go without feedbacking. I will give the Audix OM-2 a shot.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 07, 2013, 06:24:11 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 06, 2013, 11:37:26 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 27, 2013, 11:59:42 PM
Quote from: moose23 on October 26, 2013, 05:19:43 PM
Move an inch or two back from the mic and you'll sound less weak, proximity effect can work for some people but generally just sounds weaker for most, plus with you lips up against the mic they aren't moving/opening as much as they should. Just like with guitars it's about moving air.

Ah. I'll give that a try.

I gave it a try and the result was way less volume which is not an option considering that my vocal PA is turned up as loud as it will go without feedbacking. I will give the Audix OM-2 a shot.

do you EQ out the highs on that channel coming in to the mixer or DAW w/e?  I just kill the top and bottom for mics.  that helps a lot.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on November 07, 2013, 07:41:28 AM
I like the song. That guy(guitarist) looks familiar but I'm not sure where I've seen him before.
[/quote]

We were talking to him outside of Days of the Doomed this year.  He played bass in Leather Nun America.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on November 07, 2013, 10:09:08 AM
That's what I do, too, Jibb.

 Ive been doing sound quite frequently. Getting real good at making drum kits sound smexy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 07, 2013, 11:23:50 AM
Quote from: Cursed71 on November 07, 2013, 07:41:28 AM
I like the song. That guy(guitarist) looks familiar but I'm not sure where I've seen him before.

We were talking to him outside of Days of the Doomed this year.  He played bass in Leather Nun America.
[/quote]

Ah that's right. Couldn't place him.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 07, 2013, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: jibberish on November 07, 2013, 06:24:11 AM
do you EQ out the highs on that channel coming in to the mixer or DAW w/e?  I just kill the top and bottom for mics.  that helps a lot.

I don't although half the time I'm in the baritone(?) range so I'm not sure if that would make any difference. I'll futz with it a bit though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on November 07, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
Finished recording our album, did my last bit tuesday! Now, mixing...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 07, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
liquid, let me show you some sound theory wrt an equalizer for some perspective.

first a 30 band eq picture, also known as a"1/3 octave eq" since it splits the 10 audible octaves into 30 slices

(http://www.acoustica.com/images/forum-images/2012-07-15_093012-3.jpg)

ok, vocals are pretty solidly in the middle of the midrange. if you slice off the bottom 2-2.5 octaves and the top 1-1.5 octaves, you still leave the vocal range. but you don't blow out a woofer on a badly aimed "PUH!" heh and feedback usually starts with that lower pitched like howling vs the death shriek.

also notice the numerical values are not linear. an octave is a doubling. so octave 1 is from 20-40, whereas octave 10 basically goes from 12.5k->20k

my POS behringer mixer has a bass shelving eq at 80 hz=1st 2 octaves, and a high shelving eq at 12.5khz = 10th octave. mid eq is centered at 2.5 which is about vocal center.
those extreme registers are completely out of vocal range except maybe Mariah carey if you goosed her at the right time whilst singing.

anyway, those shelving eq's are pretty standard and are meant to just kill from there to the end of the audible range.  you would not believe how much rumble crap gets into the mic..mic stands need to be re thought. man do they ring at their resonant freq and a hard attached to the mic and right in to the mic, breathing, puh's heh and bump all that is completely not needed, so you kill it with the shelving eq's, well I do, because I am a fucking mess trying to be quiet, knocking into shit, breathing wrong direction, etc etc etc.,..

so you can pretty safely shelf the vocals. obviously you wouldn't do that to a cymbal mic, but you sure could still kill the bottom off.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on November 07, 2013, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: jibberish on November 07, 2013, 01:41:20 PM

... except maybe Mariah carey if you goosed her at the right time whilst singing.



Ha!  Video please....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 07, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
heh. I would be sooo honored if I could be the one to apply the little "mmm!" to that fine fine caboose.

Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 08, 2013, 12:15:22 PM
Looks like Ocean of Stars may finally have a bass player. Will have a full band rehearsal next Wednesday and see how goes before making a formal announcement.

Got together w/prospective bassist last night and she did great. Rehearsed with drummer n sax player on Wednesday to test out my loop pedal.

It wasn't the be-all end-all cure-all, but it definitely came in fucking handy. Only problem was hard to hear unless the loop was only thing going.

But now thinking of running two amps, split the signal after my main pedal board but before the loop station: main signal chain to main amp, loop signal to secondary amp.

Only problem with that is I have a 2nd guitar cab but no 2nd guitar amp...


Edit: now that I think about it, the loop station signal/amp will probably also have my original signal going through it as well... Shit.

Hmmmm. I'd rather create the loops then and there rather than pre-record the loops and play them as backing tracks

Maybe an ABY box before the loop station, route my main signal after the loop starts playing. But that's an extra fucking button to step on...

I will ponder this and try shit out.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 08, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
The aby thing is probably the way.  Click a, record your loop, click b to play over top through another amp. 

I recently bought the RC20XL and am a bit perplexed with it.  So I feel ya.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 08, 2013, 03:31:20 PM
Yeah mine's a bare bones RC-2. Curious about the foot switch pedal option for it.

ABY is probably the way to go. Or maybe I could just build a simple stomp box kill switch for that signal. But have it after the looper so I could have it muted when I delete loops.

Hmmm...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 08, 2013, 03:35:42 PM
I have the radial aby.  works great.  I think it's called a Big Shot.  Iso xmr and all that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on November 08, 2013, 06:15:05 PM
I am working on a similar plan except with a mute after the signal splits rather than A/B. One side has the looper on it (ditto). So normally I play stereo through both amps and loop only one side. Then if the loop plus direct is getting murky I can mute the signal to that side. If my looper had a mix knob or direct level knob this could happen automatically.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on November 09, 2013, 07:57:29 PM
Here's some haikus I shat out for us:

Hey Stonerrocklives
Kindred folks in The Jam Room
Guitar through bass amps

Surf into a thread
A Black Arts Toneworks demo
Mark, I would blow you

Look, a fresh post bumps
New Gear Acquisitions thread
Lip: Can I have it?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on November 09, 2013, 08:20:41 PM
I spit tea all over my monitor. Go to hell.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on November 09, 2013, 08:49:38 PM
Magic 8-ball says,
All my gear has shit the bed
False Jake))) will fix it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on November 09, 2013, 11:21:17 PM
I don't dig haikus
An ancient form of Twitter
Wait maybe I do

iPod on shuffle
Ermahgerd.. it's Jerthro Terl
Cue the flute solo

Love Jake's red Tele
I could use one more guitar
Now convince the wife


pardon my haikuing.. bored at work.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 10, 2013, 02:10:01 AM
Synth Freak Out!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 10, 2013, 11:06:47 AM
Those haikus are awesome \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 11, 2013, 01:11:25 AM
'play something heavy!'

'play a good one!'

Is this type of friendly banter a thing in most areas? It probably wouldn't bother me if I heard it from a friend while I was on stage but in the crowd at a show it can get old fast. Perhaps it's ironic at this point? Perhaps I'm a bit of an uptight party pooper  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on November 11, 2013, 09:50:42 AM
Chug-a-Wee-Dill-Lee
Chug--aChugga--Chk--Chug-Chug
Play something heavy
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 11, 2013, 10:06:53 AM
We don't give a fuck
whether or not you like it
There's the fucking door.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on November 11, 2013, 10:57:29 AM
As for loop stations, if you have an FX loop and haven't tried it there yet, give it a shot.  On my JCM800 the loop station couldn't function well in front of the amp but worked like a charm in the FX loop.  This may not be the same for you because the loops in this model of 800 are designed funky and therefore the last thing in your loop signal becomes the master volume.  Regardless, it's worth trying if you haven't already before you spend on new gear.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 11, 2013, 12:05:06 PM
Hmmm. I don't know if my 800 (1981) has an fx loop...? Guess ill check Wednesday when Ocean of Stars convenes for a full band rehearsal


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on November 13, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
does anyone ever get the "oh no I'm the only one who doesn't have a valve amp" jitters? Of course you don't!

Going on tour in a weeks time and going to be following loads of killer bands with amazing amps/set ups, if I can hold up with my solid state bass head I'll be proud! fuck it! I love my amp!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 13, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
I get those jitters occasionally but right now I'm more focusing on playing (and pedals ;D). I love older SS heads as well, been eyeballing a Kustom IIIB head lately. The only thing is: do I need to have a full second rig?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 13, 2013, 12:28:58 PM
Answer:

FUCK YEAH.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 13, 2013, 12:37:50 PM
 ;D

I have never dimed my Acoustic 220, not even once. No need to so far. So an extra full rig might be overkill.

Said full rig I'm eyeballin'

(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/160931180-vintage-kustom-iiib-bassstack-met-215-cabinet.jpg)

It looks purty.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on November 13, 2013, 03:58:54 PM
Hah!! Nice! Yeah you prob don't reeeally need that extra full rig! ;)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on November 13, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
While I was at work today my jam room aka the shed in the back yard was broken into. My bass rig was stolen. I want to stab the world. It was shitty and not even worth stealing.

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Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 13, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on November 13, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
While I was at work today my jam room aka the shed in the back yard was broken into. My bass rig was stolen. I want to stab the world. It was shitty and not even worth stealing.

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Shitty. Hang in there, dude.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on November 13, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on November 13, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
While I was at work today my jam room aka the shed in the back yard was broken into. My bass rig was stolen. I want to stab the world. It was shitty and not even worth stealing.

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Ahh what! Fuck em the bastards! Hopefully they did their back in carrying it off only to find it wasn't worth the money, karma should take care of it, a slipped disc or a hernia ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 14, 2013, 01:10:24 AM
Ocean of Stars has an official line-up now:

Danny G: Guitar
Derek Rodriguez: Saxophone
Melanie Martinez: Bass
Ric Furley: Drums

And just like that, after almost 5 years of trying, I finally have a new band. We'll be playing interpretations of arrangements from my two instrumental solo albums -- 'Leap of Faith' (2012) and 'Ocean of Stars' (2010) -- as well as unreleased material.

#FUCKINGSTOKED


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 14, 2013, 05:26:10 PM
Cool—that didn't take long!  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 14, 2013, 09:07:43 PM
Doesn't seem like it now, but sure seemed like it from summer/fall 2008 until yesterday, heh


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 17, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
Pretty much broke down my whole studio/jam room this morning and re wired everything a be moved some stuff around. Shit was getting a bit messy and tangled up. Plugged in my mini brute and no power. Prolly a fuse but waiting for an email back from tech support for a go ahead to open it up and check. Dammit! 

My birthday is in a couple weeks so imma finna get a new to me synth. Korg ms2000r rack mount keyless synth/sequencer. Fuck. I should be about set barring a couple midi controllers. Next I have to work on my sound system. Right now I'm just a mono pa. Boo.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Riffer on November 18, 2013, 10:18:27 AM
Really looking fwd to hearing the stuff Danny. Keep us posted on where to hear it/get vinyls.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on November 19, 2013, 01:39:22 AM
These fellers were nice enough to autograph my all time fav slab of vinyl while in Denver.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/IMG_0459_zps2e6dbe6c.jpg)
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/IMG_0458_zps5299d600.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 19, 2013, 03:31:39 AM
Thanks riffer!

The music we'll be playing (my solo recordings) can be heard at http://www.reverbnation.com/oceanofstars

Not gonna sound exactly like it, but based from it heh.

Have 5 albums of shit back logged, but excited that now any new stuff I come up with I have a band to work on it with. Very curious to see how that goes. Maybe even an Ocean of Stars rpm challenge album? Why the hell not?

Rehearsal later today, stoked.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 19, 2013, 03:35:00 AM
That, and within a few hours of first official rehearsal last week already had a gig offer for that Friday. Ha! Awesome.

My friends in Thunderosa (have played numerous shows with them on bass or lead guitar) needed an opener at a legit venue.

We only had three full songs we could have played. Had the sax player not been busy, we probably would have done it for the fuck of it.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on November 19, 2013, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Jake on November 19, 2013, 01:39:22 AM
These fellers were nice enough to autograph my all time fav slab of vinyl while in Denver.

Tremendous. Weren't the s/t vinyls German only? I arbitrarily decided to collect my five favorite albums ever on vinyl, so I need to track down my own copy...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on November 19, 2013, 11:10:39 AM
Yep, it's the German import. It's a tricky one to lock down, but they pop up every once in a while.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 20, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Remember when I said I didn't have the need to dime my Acoustic 220? Well, tonight's first rehearsal with new drummer changed that. Man, that dude hits hard (in a good way). And I didn't fully understand the "less gain is more"-kinda thing but now I do. The less gain on my Supercollider (which is supposed to be a gain monster) the better really. Luckily I was more than able to dial in useful fuzz tones and might experiment some more. Rehearsal itself was pretty awesome. The other drummer switched to synths so he's still figuring stuff out but it sounded spacey which is what we're going for.

Stoked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 20, 2013, 06:41:40 PM
Since I been synth nerding out lately, what synths are you using?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 20, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
anyone use band mine?? opinions??  im not sure how to list a band. it didn't seem that obvious for some reason..wtf
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 21, 2013, 01:43:46 AM
Tonight I came across the term 'TRS' and after a bit of Google searching learned what it means. I had always assumed that cable ends with that extra ring must be stereo..
Sometimes I wonder how I've made it this far without poisoning myself or getting anyone pregnant. It's probably a miracle.

(http://www.diyallday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trs-ts.jpg)



edit: and then today I read a line somewhere equating TRS with stereo.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 21, 2013, 05:38:22 AM
Quote from: RAGER on November 20, 2013, 06:41:40 PM
Since I been synth nerding out lately, what synths are you using?
He only brought his Microkorg for now. He has Korg looper at home that he'll bring next time. It's his first time being synth-guy in a band so he's adapting to the situation. It sounded good but I think (correct me if I'm wrong) he needs to go a few octaves down because it felt I was just playing the 2 high strings on my bass and it's tuned to C, so I wasn't fully using it..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 21, 2013, 01:15:48 PM
I'm not sure what you're saying exactly but maybe he was just trying to be heard.

Thought about trying some synth out in a friends band about a month ago but I didn't think I had my shit together enough to add anything good.  Still don't.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 22, 2013, 04:40:28 AM
Picked up a Tascam DP-008EX today. So far it seems very easy to use although with that tiny screen I'm not sure how easy cutting and pasting and what not will be.

(http://tascam.com/content/images/universal/product_detail/787/medium/dp-008ex_p_top.jpg)


http://www.fullcompass.com/
If you ask call and talk to a sales rep they will probably quote you a lower price than their website lists which in many cases will be lower than B&H, Musician's Friend, etc..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on November 22, 2013, 08:32:14 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 21, 2013, 01:43:46 AM
Tonight I came across the term 'TRS' and after a bit of Google searching learned what it means. I had always assumed that cable ends with that extra ring must be stereo..
Sometimes I wonder how I've made it this far without poisoning myself or getting anyone pregnant. It's probably a miracle.

(http://www.diyallday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trs-ts.jpg)



edit: and then today I read a line somewhere equating TRS with stereo.

A TRS cable and a stereo cable are essentially the same thing. One is left/right/ground and other is +ve/-ve/ground so both cables are the same just how they're used is different.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 22, 2013, 10:42:31 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 22, 2013, 04:40:28 AM
Picked up a Tascam DP-008EX today. So far it seems very easy to use although with that tiny screen I'm not sure how easy cutting and pasting and what not will be.

(http://tascam.com/content/images/universal/product_detail/787/medium/dp-008ex_p_top.jpg)


http://www.fullcompass.com/
If you ask call and talk to a sales rep they will probably quote you a lower price than their website lists which in many cases will be lower than B&H, Musician's Friend, etc..

Does this require software or are you as dumb as me about this shit so you get a stand alone unit like and old 4 track?  I really need to get on the wagon.  I'm even more dumb and lazy about recording than chovie.  I have a lot of material I'd like to get oot.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 22, 2013, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 22, 2013, 10:42:31 AM
Does this require software or are you as dumb as me about this shit so you get a stand alone unit like and old 4 track?  I really need to get on the wagon.  I'm even more dumb and lazy about recording than chovie.  I have a lot of material I'd like to get oot.

I'm almost as dumb as my grandparents when it comes to software. No. It's a stand alone unit that can do some cut/paste type stuff and mastering. You do have to read the manual to get things going but it's pretty clear cut. The thing is, no latency issues. You can transfer files to a computer for more tweaking and what not or to add to a Protools song or whatever, I'm going to be doing that next week.

It can only record 2 tracks at once but that's why it's under $300 and not $500+.

I spent the afternoon experimenting with mic placement using my pedals into my friends 5150 and it's sounding really good. I found out that dynamic mics work pretty well when placed 4 or 5 feet from a cab. It really opens the tone up and allows you to use your normal amount of distortion. A condenser might be better for that but I don't have one. Going to start tracking tomorrow or Monday. So far the unit sounds pro to me.

Now I'm thinking more about a high wattage tube amp for practice and shows but it has to have a ton of headroom and preferably not weigh 80+ pounds.

http://tascam.com/product/dp-008ex/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 22, 2013, 10:26:02 PM
liquid, have you thought about a tube pre and SS power section for super loud yet lightweight solutions?

ps, do hard core wave editing on the pc, no portable unit has a good interface for that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 23, 2013, 02:51:28 PM
rager, grab a bigger multitrack deck during black Friday.
last year I snagged a Tascam DP-24 for $486 shipped from B&H.

I sit looking at this fucking thing and all of what it does for that little amount of money.  hardware is what costs money. the entire cost of a mixer is the pots and knobs and someone had to put that clusterfuck of hardware together. dp 24 took the redundant set of tone, effect, pan, etc etc knobs out and just switched a master set of those secondary knobs between all 24 tracks.  they eliminated 23 sets of knobs and pots.  but my main requirement was 8 simul-track recording.   I lived with 4 simul tracks total long enough to learn that wasn't quite enough, and the day will come when you want to haul that deck over to a drum kit, or  a multipart vocal arrangement, and you will need like 6 tracks

also, for assembling techno/trance shit. virtual tracks slow the process down. listening needs to be done quickly between sources.  it's easier to rock the rew/play buttons and a handful of sliders, then select and pull up virtual tracks to compare.  so I can spread all my takes out on 15 un used tracks for comparison

here's the thing. no one on this board uses a multitrack deck(BA excepted), so they automatically sell against it ONLY based on non-familiarity.  they are so fucking handy, regardless of their size. I have a HM-2 I found which is awesome for 1 shot stereo recording anywhere anytime.

yeah, and liquid learned the joys of the freedom from latency. things like this happen when you use a dedicated microcontrolled device for its intended purpose: incredible performance and efficiency. PC's are general use workhorses. most capability and compromise not necessary for multitrack recording(or any dedicated function)

the computer in a multitrack never crashes. it never gets lost. 
first thing you see when you use reaper on the PC is the DEFAULT OFF POSITION of the monitor during recording of that track. absolutely useless to try to monitor that.
I monitor from the mixer when I need to listen to the source with no latency, have no choice.
then I sit back and wonder why people punish themselves so needlessly. using a deck is like recording off the board at a show. everyone has a feel for what happens there.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 23, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: jibberish on November 22, 2013, 10:26:02 PM
liquid, have you thought about a tube pre and SS power section for super loud yet lightweight solutions?

More again lately. Even a tube overdrive pedal might work wonders for my current setup as long as it could also deliver a nearly transparent sound loud when set low, if anyone has any suggestions.

With my distortion pedal into my friend's 5150 I'm not sure how much of the sweetness is from the preamp and how much is from the poweramp. Obviously the preamp colors the sound aside from providing extra distortion. To me the 5150 sounds mega Spirit Caravan/stoner metal on it's own yet it's used more by players who are going for power/thrash/traditional/etc metal sounds. You don't need to sell out big bucks on an Orange or whatever to get that sound. The 5150 has tons of low end too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on November 23, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 23, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: jibberish on November 22, 2013, 10:26:02 PM
liquid, have you thought about a tube pre and SS power section for super loud yet lightweight solutions?

More again lately. Even a tube overdrive pedal might work wonders for my current setup as long as it could also deliver a nearly transparent sound loud when set low, if anyone has any suggestions.

With my distortion pedal into my friend's 5150 I'm not sure how much of the sweetness is from the preamp and how much is from the poweramp. Obviously the preamp colors the sound aside from providing extra distortion. To me the 5150 sounds mega Spirit Caravan/stoner metal on it's own yet it's used more by players who are going for power/thrash/traditional/etc metal sounds. You don't need to sell out big bucks on an Orange or whatever to get that sound. The 5150 has tons of low end too.

5150 power section sounds bit meh. For bass at least, lots of the valve mojo is in the power section, 5150 is just bad example of that.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on November 24, 2013, 03:41:41 PM
Well I got a new (to me) bass. A black squier affinity p bass. I figure if it's good enough for Dixie it's good enough for me. Now just gotta get a new amp.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on November 24, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
5150s sound good, if it isn't a 5150II
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 27, 2013, 01:26:50 PM
http://maximumrocknroll.com/top-tens-363/ (http://maximumrocknroll.com/top-tens-363/)
Greg Harvester of MRR included Tunes from the Toilet Vol. 1 in his top ten for the month of august 2013. there are members tracks from this board on this comp. get one now and support the scene.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on November 27, 2013, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 24, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
5150s sound good, if it isn't a 5150II

Used a 2 on this [blatant plug] https://caricatures.bandcamp.com/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on November 28, 2013, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 23, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: jibberish on November 22, 2013, 10:26:02 PM
liquid, have you thought about a tube pre and SS power section for super loud yet lightweight solutions?

More again lately. Even a tube overdrive pedal might work wonders for my current setup as long as it could also deliver a nearly transparent sound loud when set low, if anyone has any suggestions.

With my distortion pedal into my friend's 5150 I'm not sure how much of the sweetness is from the preamp and how much is from the poweramp. Obviously the preamp colors the sound aside from providing extra distortion. To me the 5150 sounds mega Spirit Caravan/stoner metal on it's own yet it's used more by players who are going for power/thrash/traditional/etc metal sounds. You don't need to sell out big bucks on an Orange or whatever to get that sound. The 5150 has tons of low end too.

I stil have my 5150 2x12 combo. It slaves out a 16 ohm cab and has a pre out for power amp slaving. Run a little hot, hit it with a good D box, or just use the channel switcher and you got yourself fucking tone for years.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 05, 2013, 07:08:13 AM
Just heard back from the shop.

My Acoustic B200H had a bad solder joint and is ready to be picked up. Looking forward to getting it back, will pull the chassis and rack mount it.

Will be experimenting with adding a gain stage next time I fire up my Marshall.

Have been running it loud and clean, using my modded BD-2 for dirt. But dusted of the Tube Screamer clone I built and added it to the chain, will try using it and the BD-2 in conjunction. Have 2 levels of dirt rather than either dirt on or dirt off.

#tryinshit


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 05, 2013, 01:03:08 PM
On the Ocean of Stars front, we've had two full band rehearsals w/bassist. Was going great.

Expanding on songs, adding another song to the mix. Progress.

But now my sax player will be take a necessary leave of absence thru February to be with his family as his mom is sick. Totally understood, gotta be there.

Not viewing it as a set back in any way shape or form. This will give me time to lock in with drummer n bass and still work on music as a three piece.

In the meantime will be thinking of extra instrumentation to throw into the mix. 2nd guitar would be cool in the meantime, but kind of redundant with a sax player. Keys would be great and leave plenty room for the horn. An interim sax player would leave option of 2 piece horns upon original sax player's return.

Lots of options \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on December 05, 2013, 02:30:58 PM
^That sounds like an interesting mix.   So we just had Kings X at the club where I work. I had hoped you might still be working with them, but no...    Anyway, first time I've seen them. Great band, super nice guys.  Doug (or dUg.. whatever) is a trooper, man. Dude had hernia issues throughout the night. Between songs he would turn to his amp with a really pained look on his face and push his stomach back in. Still, they played the whole set and a 1 song encore before the crew guys took him to the hospital. Crowd sang the last song entirely, harmonies and all. Room full of damned musicians ;)   Crazy. Anyway.. great guys, great show.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 05, 2013, 02:33:28 PM
Wow!  man I've always loved King's X.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 05, 2013, 05:33:00 PM
Yeah I haven't teched for them in awhile and do miss it, heh.

Was supposed to tech for Dug on the tour last year that got cancelled when Jerry had his heart attack.

They are fucking consistent live. Just, wow!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 06, 2013, 06:26:56 AM
QuoteBetween songs he would turn to his amp with a really pained look on his face and push his stomach back in. Still, they played the whole set and a 1 song encore before the crew guys took him to the hospital. Crowd sang the last song entirely, harmonies and all. Room full of damned musicians    Crazy. Anyway.. great guys, great show.

Woah!! :/

So we got asked to support the Watain tour two days before it, it was the first show last night, we came home after it as it turned out we're not on tonight's show. This whole thing is really daunting to me, we just did a tour with another doom band who we are well matched to, in small venues which I am comfortable with and it went really well, it was a great way to end the year, I got to support Indesinence who are one of my favourite bands in the world and the show was amazing, so we thought that was it for the year. Now at the last minute we're on this tour, playing huge venues, with a massive black metal band, we got onstage last night and I just felt weird, like I didn't belong there, like I should be in a bar playing to a small doom crowd, I feel like we are still very much in a formative and primitive stage yet playing these shows where the crowds expectations are really high, I totally fucked up one of my solos and am gutted as I don't think it's the kind of show for that, I am really out of my comfort zone. I'm not sure if I can play these big stages, my playing can be pretty scrappy which I'm ok with, I'm proud of what I've written and proud of my band, but when we're on a big stage playing to 100+ people most of which black metal fans I'm not sure if that will do us any justice at all. I'm not being ungrateful, this is an amazing opportunity, but maybe one I'm just not ready for, I love my band and my music and I'm worried I've done wrong by it by agreeing to do this, or atleast just something this big so soon.....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on December 06, 2013, 07:48:41 AM
Try not to overthink it and have as much fun as you can.  I'd be most concerned about staying away from all of Watain's blood and rotting animal heads and shit.  If you get to have the same soundguy for each show of the tour, try to make a connection with him/her- could help in addressing any issues; a good monitor mix is even more important on larger stages where you're likely farther away from your bandmates, amps, etc.  GOOD LUCK!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on December 06, 2013, 07:53:51 AM
Shitcanned our drummer the other day.  Not because she was born a he- there was just too much conflict, drunkenly fucking up shows, and the classic 'musical differences' within the band; and it all centered on her.

In addition to trying to find a drummer, we'll have to come up with a new name, which is ok by me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 06, 2013, 12:14:40 PM
What diddler said, Jem

Also a good thing to realize is that when you make a mistake onstage, a lot of the time the audience doesn't even notice. Or if they do, when the band all looks at each other n laughs but keep right on playing, that mistake won't be held against you and you'll probably even win the crowd over more ;)

And as far as playing bigger stages and crowds, unless you want to jump into that with both feet (and sounds like you don't), keep playing smaller venues and get comfortable with that. Then start working up. But still do the occasional big show and see if its less intimidating each time \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on December 06, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
Hey Jem,

These are all good things!   Nerves, being unsure of yourself in unfamiliar surroundings, and even fucking up solos are the foundation of good art.  Your band is really good, and I can tell from your super honest and thoughtful posts that you believe in what you are doing, and that's why bands like Watain are taking notice.  Just own that shit onstage and everyone will dig it regardless of genre boundaries.  It's all outsider music for a bunch if weirdos anyways... Wether it be in a bar with 10 weirdos or venue with 300.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 06, 2013, 10:14:55 PM
Oh fuck I'm good at fucking up solos live because I get too nervous. Everyone says 'own it' and a few say practice more. I'm trying to do both. Cool on the big show Jem!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 06, 2013, 11:00:31 PM
you got this jem, your band kicks ass and remember, you guys were asked to be on this. obviously people dig what you guys are doing or that would not be the case.
go out there and rip everyones face right the fuck off. grind for life!! 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 08, 2013, 05:48:57 AM
Thanks guys, your support means a lot right now, last show tonight but it'll be the biggest in London, it's been really hard, the impression I'm getting is that there's only a small amount of love for us on these shows, I've heard people making horrible comments within earshot while I'm onstage, I was right to be unsure about this, we've put ourselves in front of people who will think we really suck, I haven't enjoyed the vibes of the shows at all, black metal vibes, cold, it's made us stronger and more sure of ourselves and who we are as a band, I've learned a lot....

Thanks for the support seriously, I will get out there tonight and try my best to rip everyone's face right the fuck off! ;) then I will happily head home to the lands of doom where I belong!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 08, 2013, 07:45:13 AM
have a fake head or stack catch on fire.  you wont even have to play music and you already won.

fire and/or destruction = \m/ \m/

throw flaming picks into the crowd and other random crap to freak everyone out.
once you have owned them, play anything you want

king diamond's one guitar player was super pro at zinging picks.  we snagged one in the balcony at HoB that he whipped all the way up there. it was awesome to watch his technique.

[/no help post]


I think owning the show like never before, as was suggested, is a great plan. I heard your bass sound. that will fuck some people up especially if they have a killer gigantic PA system.  YOU get to do sonic damage like you never have ever done before. think of it as an opportunity to punish the weak as never before.

spud, chimaera's bass player told me it is loud enough when the bass makes his pants flap. haha  more \m/

this is probably all after the fact anyway...oh well
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 08, 2013, 08:18:40 PM
I actually get off on it when people hate my band. hell, im the guy who started a band with the intent of being sloppy and offensive. fuck everybody. problem is no one realizes it because we are good at what we do and we play with conviction. best compliment we ever got was in a review of our first 7" where the dude called us a 'watered down lo-fi anal cunt'.
im not sure where im going with all this other than to say fuck what anyone else thinks. kill or be killed!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 09, 2013, 06:37:05 AM
Haha mort! ;)

I caught your post before we went on jibbs!

Well thank fuck that is over! I couldn't have done another night of that! Last night we played really well and it sounded amazing onstage, there were a few hundred people, throughout our set some black metal guy was pulling faces and hissing at us, when we finished he initiated boo'ing and cries of "FUCK OFF!", it really really sucked, but the good thing is I was ok with it, if it'd been a doom gig I would have been gutted but I don't expect most of these people to like it, why the hell did we agree to this?

We had to stand outside for ages after it because Watain were using the room that blocked the way to ours to get ready in, the venue made them step outside to pour the blood on themselves, so we watched/pretended not to as they knelt down and doused each other with the stuff, the next minute this big rat came running out from under the bins and legged it off obviously scared by the smell of the blood, they went back in and I heard wretching, after they went onstage we went in to get our stuff and one of them had vomited on the floor, the whole place STUNK like hell and there was blood splattered all over the floor, I nearly passed out from the smell, it was like leather faces basement, they keep their stage clothes in this chest and night after night the stuff gets a new layer of blood, seriously these last few nights, it's been like Spinal Tap gone horribly horribly wrong....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on December 09, 2013, 06:42:43 AM
Ha! I once heard this brilliant story from in the early days of Watain playing to 50 people or so, they did the whole shebang back then as well but they had to put their vests (which were stiff from the blood that they put on it every night) in the microwave first before they could put them on. Still one of my favorite metal stories of all time. Can you imagine them walking up to the promotor asking if they could use the microwave to do that?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 09, 2013, 06:47:30 AM
Holy fuck that is horrible!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 09, 2013, 01:00:57 PM
oh man, now there is a story to laugh about later over a beer (after the trauma has fully worn off).  holy shit.

\m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on December 09, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
I had become the main singer and guitar player of my band, moving up from drums, and started our first big important show ever by spacing out and forgetting to walk up to the mic to sing the first verse of our first song.

Whatever... I just walked over while the rest of the band was staring at me and started singing when the chorus kicked in. I'm sure no one else in the room even noticed. It's not like we were playing music that everyone knew from the radio.

If I was messing up a solo I'd just pull out the Neil Young/Fast Eddie trick and zip up to whatever fret the root note was and pull a double stop on the B/high E for 16 bars or so. Maybe add some wah wah for flavour.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 09, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
If you fuck up, do it twice so they think it's supposed to be that way.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 09, 2013, 08:45:27 PM
i played a show one time where aaron[guitar/vox. me on bass in the pic.] got this idea to get a bunch of cow parts from the Mexican butcher and throw it at the crowd. so I show up at his house to load up all the gear and I find him around back with a 5 gallon bucket full of cow intestines and a cow heart. hes soaking it all in this part real/part fake blood concoction. I was like "wtf are you going to do with that??"..then he told me. it was a crazy show to say the least. I did get pegged with a piece of cow heart at one point when people started throwing shit back at us.  
pic for proof is arron throwing the cow heart and note the intestines wrapped around the pole above us. haha funny thing was, we played there again about a month after that show and the intestines were still hanging there all shriveled up.. that was awesome. burn victim phx, az  2000-01.
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on December 10, 2013, 03:24:11 AM
I've heard stories from beginning mathcore bands (think Dillinger Escape Plan & screamo Orchid rip-offs) that they partied because one of them broke his straight edge, got really high and the drummer played the drum parts for a different song. It sounded better according to them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on December 11, 2013, 06:01:47 AM
hey jumz - you see this (favorable) review of your birmingham watain show? has video too.

http://www.nocleansinging.com/2013/12/10/watain-funeral-throne-coltsblood-live-at-the-institute-birmingham-dec-7-2013/#more-69032

i never go by what seems to be the general reaction of the room (we're playing underground music, which means that even within the larger group of underground fans, we'll only ever interest some of them). you gotta go by the few people who come up afterward and say 'holy shit, that was great! didn't know what to expect, but you blew my mind! any more shows coming up?'...this reviewer is that guy for you this time. don't worry, you done good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 11, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
Thanks for finding that khoomz! The problem was just that I didn't realise there'd be some people there who would HATE us and take things so seriously, and if I'd thought of that I might have said no, and prevented myself from having to hear dickheads shouting and being really insulting, I'm really anti dickhead I can't stand to be in the same room as one, I'm just out to have a good time, and that was not a good time haha ;) backstage was hardly a barrel of laughs either  ::)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 11, 2013, 01:11:28 PM
That's a really good review Jem and great video to boot.  You gotta fight fire with fire.  You da one with the mic.  Remember that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 11, 2013, 03:01:09 PM
^

I must admt, I like that watain band's music. glad youtube isn't in 3-D smell-O-vision. 

that video showed people "getting" it while they listened to your doom piece in the vid. like once they caught on to the slowly descending tempo, and I guess that word "monolithic" fits, strikes, but timed for more impact, they were waiting for the next blast, check it out again heh.

red giant story time:  ok, all the guys in red giant and like the shigle bros. and jimmy "spud" in chimaera and a couple other happening metal type people are all from the same neighborhood right here.  SO, one time chimaera is headlining a nu-metal bill (of course I got full pass to the whole place, I knew the dudes in 2 of the bands) at the big stage at the agora and they invited red giant (blues based heavy riff rock). the crowd was ice for the first couple songs. I personally was dying inside for those guys as they slugged out the first couple numbers.  THEN they hit a groove on one song and won the crowd.  it turned out to be a nice palette cleanser between main courses because the people finally got into the energy and the coolness of the performance for what it was.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on December 11, 2013, 05:21:15 PM
There used to be a band around Portland that would invite chicks up on stage them vomit on them, super fucking gross!
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 11, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
You have to remember, most black metal fans are total pretentious cocksuckers.

I am one, I would know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eddiefive10 on December 11, 2013, 10:09:28 PM
Jem I dig your band, your drummer has a good sense of carrying the music through the slower stuff and keeping a good groove
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 11, 2013, 10:51:24 PM
Blood, guts, any kind of liquids, ack. Nasty gross mess.

Tried my roommate's Mesa Studio guitar preamp into the effects return of my little class D SS 350 watt Fender Rumble bass head tonight and it sounded really good with the eq in the V shape. We cranked it up too. SS headroom and tube distortion is a great combo. Now I feel like I kind of understand how Mesa is able to charge so much for their amps.

Going to get a Crate Power Block cheap for it's preamp to run into the Rumble.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 12, 2013, 02:30:55 AM
^ I agree. even the pre-out from the little 12ax7 in the fender gretas, into any ss combo I have tried just sounds most excellent.
taking that one step further, the greta sounds good through the mixer and stereo too(aka PA)

I have had this ancient kustom 30w 12" combo forever and I never really liked it.   now, I wont get rid of it, because it screams like a mutha with the greta driving it. the speaker opens up with that ..you know SOUND.. where it is that sweet raggedy sound.   speaking of red giant, when they kicked it with those 100% marshall stacks, those speakers all opened up like what i'm talking about..first time I really noticed that subtle thing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 12, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
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OK, figured out how to use a Boss tuner as a poor man's ABY box to run the Loop Station to it's own amp.

Now the problem is that I have 2 Marshall 4x12s and only 1 amp...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on December 12, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
Wow, that guy really wrote y'all up nice like.  Better buy that guy a beer Jem.

I once played with a guy who had some shitty little combo that he dimed and it sounded like a shitty little amp dimed.  But when he miked it through a pa it sounded like a fucking monster.  The practice room pa had lots of headroom...never would have guessed but it was an excellent pairing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Riffer on December 12, 2013, 06:26:20 PM
^ A VERY renowned guitarist recently told me that the two stacks he plays on stage is only half of his sound, and aren't in the PA. The other half is a 20w combo w/ a Pharaoh mic'd for the PA. The mix of the two was thunderous and raw.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 12, 2013, 06:33:24 PM
Angus? :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Riffer on December 12, 2013, 06:34:42 PM
Ha. I wish. If Angus played a Pharaoh, I'd literally shit my drawers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 12, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
I've read numerous times his sole sound is a jtm and 4x12in an iso chamber under the stage.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on December 12, 2013, 06:55:02 PM
Studio, fantastic recording.





Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on December 13, 2013, 05:42:22 AM
Quote from: The Riffer on December 12, 2013, 06:26:20 PM
^ A VERY renowned guitarist recently told me that the two stacks he plays on stage is only half of his sound, and aren't in the PA. The other half is a 20w combo w/ a Pharaoh mic'd for the PA. The mix of the two was thunderous and raw.

Seen this mentioned on ILF a few days ago. Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on December 13, 2013, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 12, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
I've read numerous times his sole sound is a jtm and 4x12in an iso chamber under the stage.

A part of his sound is also the compression and boost that is added to the signal coming out of his ancient wireless system.

And his hands. There is some clip on youtube, I think in the Back In Black Classic Albums video, of him plugged in to some random amp during an interview and yet he still sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on December 15, 2013, 12:15:36 AM
Quote from: fallen on December 13, 2013, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 12, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
I've read numerous times his sole sound is a jtm and 4x12in an iso chamber under the stage.

A part of his sound is also the compression and boost that is added to the signal coming out of his ancient wireless system.

And his hands. There is some clip on youtube, I think in the Back In Black Classic Albums video, of him plugged in to some random amp during an interview and yet he still sounds amazing.

AC/DC is are were a bar band, the best ever. Angus has "it" like I will never have.  Malcolm, dude!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 15, 2013, 04:48:04 AM
Quote from: The Riffer on December 12, 2013, 06:26:20 PM
^ A VERY renowned guitarist recently told me that the two stacks he plays on stage is only half of his sound, and aren't in the PA. The other half is a 20w combo w/ a Pharaoh mic'd for the PA. The mix of the two was thunderous and raw.

Awesome stuff!

I have this Laney 1x12 combo iv always wanted to mic up for a gig as it sounds awesome!

I'm wondering what'd happen if Sunn0))) (the band!) we're to do this....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on December 15, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
Which Laney 1x12?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on December 15, 2013, 01:29:56 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on December 15, 2013, 04:48:04 AM
I'm wondering what'd happen if Sunn0))) (the band!) we're to do this....

Then they'd have finally done something interesting. BOOM! Oh no I di'int.



I did.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on December 16, 2013, 08:49:16 AM
Coltsblood rules.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 16, 2013, 12:34:12 PM
Quote from: Jake on December 15, 2013, 01:29:56 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on December 15, 2013, 04:48:04 AM
I'm wondering what'd happen if Sunn0))) (the band!) we're to do this....

Then they'd have finally done something interesting. BOOM! Oh no I di'int.



I did.

Hah! ;)

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Post by: JemDooM on December 16, 2013, 12:35:33 PM
Thanks Jake :)

Quote from: moose23 on December 15, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
Which Laney 1x12?

It's an LV100, celestion rocket 50, sounds really good...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2013, 10:01:25 PM
I don't remember what I paid for this thing new but I don't think it was even close to what it's up to. Go baby go!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-Audio-DMP3-2-channel-mic-preamp-/121233041211?

edit:
$182.50
I like it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on December 17, 2013, 05:00:49 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on December 16, 2013, 12:35:33 PM
Thanks Jake :)

Quote from: moose23 on December 15, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
Which Laney 1x12?

It's an LV100, celestion rocket 50, sounds really good...

Cool I used to have the LC30 which sounds great too. It's since been converted into a head.
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Post by: JemDooM on December 17, 2013, 05:25:10 AM
Nice!! That's a cool idea :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on December 17, 2013, 09:08:51 PM
Spent this morning being interviewed for a documentary on KT88, might have come across as a retard as was working on about 3 hours sleep (not used to this morning thing). Then filmed my band playing at practice space, recorded by my mate who does sound for Om, mics still had Om tour stickers on, cool. Except I played like utter shit due to the 4 hours sleep thing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on December 18, 2013, 10:38:46 AM
Is KT88 a band or is there a documentary about tube amps with KT88s in them?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on December 18, 2013, 07:45:04 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on December 18, 2013, 10:38:46 AM
Is KT88 a band or is there a documentary about tube amps with KT88s in them?

Not even that, just specifically about the KT88 valve itself, being in amps is peripheral. The filmed my band playing, but all my amps were loaded with KT77.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on December 20, 2013, 12:10:01 AM
Figured y'all might dig on this. Unless you like '80s drum machine awfulness.

http://deege.free.fr/zztop/ (http://deege.free.fr/zztop/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 20, 2013, 08:17:43 AM
Dude, thanks!

downloading...
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Post by: Pissy on December 20, 2013, 06:04:33 PM
Got em on vinyl. ;)

Well, all but Tejas.  When I find it, I'll pick that one up too. 
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Post by: RAGER on December 20, 2013, 06:23:35 PM
I like 80's drum machine/synth awfulness and I uber appreciate this.
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Post by: The Riffer on December 20, 2013, 08:26:18 PM
Jake, thats fuckin rad. thank you!
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Post by: jibberish on December 21, 2013, 02:55:54 AM
ya that was a big deal when they fucked all that zz top up. cool someone stepped up to the plate and sorted it out. this is definitely to replace the nasty cd's and it sure does.

I didn't really care though since I already had all the vinyl albums of theirs that I wanted.  fandango on vinyl. essential music.
the studio cuts are really full and rich. sounded so good. like heard it on the x mmmm hmmmm

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looks like my holidaay gearfest is going to have to wait. i'm fucking myself, but i will sleep good at night.
i am giving the toyota that i was going to flip to my sister. she needs a decent car badly. this is the best beater i have ever gotten, and i have been flipping cars forever.
it would have sold in a day. $1800-$2000 is a lot of gear.

but you know...knowing my sister was in a bad way, and i'm swimming in toys....shit.

SHIT!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Headshrinker on December 21, 2013, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: Jake on December 20, 2013, 12:10:01 AM
Figured y'all might dig on this. Unless you like '80s drum machine awfulness.

http://deege.free.fr/zztop/ (http://deege.free.fr/zztop/)

Dug!

(http://www.edroman.com/general/images/billygibbonsgroupshot.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 22, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
Having learned to play in open E, open D & DADGAD tunings, I'm now getting at open G.

I can see why Keith Richard removes the low string, but I'm trying to soldier past that. Gotta mute it for a bunch of chords, tho.

Currently comparing using the heel of the right hand with using the thumb on the left to see which is better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 23, 2013, 03:15:47 PM
I had the same plan for the next few weeks racer playing with different tunings, I want to play some drop D and open G as iv been listening to Jeff Buckley a lot...

Seriously awesome Jake!

This is why iv never been into remixes, I wouldn't want to hear anything more polished, there is something magical about music being left in it's original state warts (supposedly to some) and all, just goes to show that no amount of new or supposed better technology can make a better master..

We got our final masters back from James Plotkin the other day, the difference is amazing, I said it felt like the album was a closed rose bud that needed to have all it's petals brought out, I was a little worried incase he might not be able to improve it much but that was exactly what it felt like, the instruments all breath in their own space more, though now it's clearer it shows up the flaws like slight mis-timings etc, I really want to re-record a couple of the solos but it's far too late and I'm keen to look forward and not back now. Already cannot wait to record another album, have learned so many lessons from this...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 24, 2013, 12:25:10 PM
Ever experiment with 432Hz tuning as opposed to 440Hz (standard tuning)?

It's between E and E flat, leaning more towards E. But I presume you can apply that slightly lowered tuning to any tuning (tune instrument to 432, then take it down how ever many steps from there using 432 as the reference point)

Supposedly creates a more harmonic and 'pleasing' vibrational pattern.

I've messed with it twice, once at home recording and once in one of the 2 full band rehearsals with Ocean of Stars before my sax player had to leave town a bit to be with his family as his mom is sick.

There is something very very different about it, def creates a diff energy. Was noticeable in the full rehearsal, and VERY noticeable when I was home recording.

As I finished up the last guitar track my GF at the time got home n walked in the door, stopped in her tracks, and had to go out onto our open air patio/living room as I opened the house. She said the energy was very VERY weird in the house. Not good or bad, but def enough to affect her. She described it as if the entire energy of our house had been shaken up like a snow globe, and just needed some time to re-settle.

Shit. I should have tried that tuning a long time ago, cause maybe we would have broken up several years earlier, hahaha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 24, 2013, 06:57:22 PM
Re: 432hz tuning (warning: mini shitstorm):

http://riffrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=9086.0
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on December 24, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
When I was researching for the octobass, came across a dude who collects tuning forks, tuning has been to various standards over time and tuning forks from periods reflect this. Also he had some weird ones, like tuned to harmonics of frequencies of the Earth or some shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on December 25, 2013, 11:28:50 AM
Some Xmas haikus for yous...

Must've been naughty
Did not get what I asked for
A shit ton of meth

Full of Christmas cheer
Santa, in his bright red suit
That means he's a Blood

Florida Christmas
Thick, wet, dense humidity
Wait... no, that's the farts

Last one's for Jake)))
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 25, 2013, 11:56:59 AM
My back patio looked like someone ran a hose into it. It was godawful. I slipped in the carport, and fell. It's colder than hell now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 26, 2013, 06:21:43 PM
Heh ;)

Awesome story Danny! And Foxen that sounds amazing, a tuning fork tuned to the frequencies of the Earth ~.~
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 26, 2013, 10:37:29 PM
Wow, that other 432 thread Racer referenced was indeed a shitstorm. Not a major shitstorm, but a decent Cat 1.


Yeah, as for 432 vs 440 I call bullshit on the Nazis implementing it for mind-control purposes. Did they look into that tho? Probably, they looked into all kinds of weird shit.

But based on the numerous videos all over the net of sand/salt/etc forming diff patterns with diff frequencies, I think 432 vs 440 is onto something just in terms of vibrations produced. Like how in those vids the grains/whatever would form a complex pattern, then disperse a little as the pitch was raised, until the next favorable vibrational frequency created another pattern.

And that is my thoughts on 432 vs 440, that 432 is closer to one of the pattern-forming frequencies while 440 might be a little off.


*Gets out my umbrella, just in case*


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on December 27, 2013, 09:10:25 AM
Quote from: Danny G on December 26, 2013, 10:37:29 PM
But based on the numerous videos all over the net of sand/salt/etc forming diff patterns with diff frequencies, I think 432 vs 440 is onto something just in terms of vibrations produced. Like how in those vids the grains/whatever would form a complex pattern, then disperse a little as the pitch was raised, until the next favorable vibrational frequency created another pattern.

And that is my thoughts on 432 vs 440, that 432 is closer to one of the pattern-forming frequencies while 440 might be a little off.

Patterns is pretty much going to be down to grain size/mass type formula, frequency needs to be tuned to that. Forming a chunnky pattern is pretty much fail in audio, its a visual representation of beat tones (like the thing when you get a rhythm from two strings out of tune) and room nulls, you get a chunky pattern when the frequency is wrong for the thing you compare it with (in those examples the other string and the room modes respectively).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on December 29, 2013, 12:09:51 PM
Project progress:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Incarante/DSCF1760_zps77b05a6a.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/Incarante/media/DSCF1760_zps77b05a6a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 29, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Alright, you limey goofball, how do i give you my money through my monitor.

Literally though, send me a blank and Ill put a fretless fretboard on it... Total milling time? Ill take a roughie.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on December 29, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Woah look at the size of them!

Iv been reading up on this it's fascinating to say the least! This might explain why I always used to insist on tuning by ear, I used to plink and strum away until I found something that sounded like the way this is described, I hated tuners but after a while was convinced to start using them for practical reasons, after we recorded the album I still complained wishing I'd tuned by ear and said during mixing some parts didn't sound right to me in this sense, I'm gonna do some experimenting now to get to the bottom of this!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on December 29, 2013, 01:11:57 PM
I still want one of those alu necks in 34" scale.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on December 29, 2013, 01:24:00 PM
Need to all use the same tuner for studio tuning, as they don't all agree with each other.

Scale is all down to the spacing of the frets on the board, and having no board yet, that is to be determined.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 29, 2013, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on December 29, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Woah look at the size of them!

Iv been reading up on this it's fascinating to say the least! This might explain why I always used to insist on tuning by ear, I used to plink and strum away until I found something that sounded like the way this is described, I hated tuners but after a while was convinced to start using them for practical reasons, after we recorded the album I still complained wishing I'd tuned by ear and said during mixing some parts didn't sound right to me in this sense, I'm gonna do some experimenting now to get to the bottom of this!

I trust my tuner more than my ear but I never thought about how important everyone using the same tuner might be.

My ear thinks my guitar is in tune when it's only basically in tune which means that it will usually get out of tune faster. I tune about every other song live. I've seen a fair number of bands over the last few years where one of the players, perhaps even just one string or just the intonation was off enough to pretty much ruin entire songs, even full sets. Sad. I'd rather tune too much than be out of tune, people can stand there and lose their beer buzz I guess. Oh that's right, we are usually so slow that they do anyway  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 29, 2013, 11:07:53 PM
Let's say one of your close friends offers to paint cover art for your upcoming demo/album and you talk about and agree on a theme/idea but they later completely go off course and present you with a nice piece but not one that has much of anything to do with what you previously talked about. How do you handle this? You don't want to offend them but dude, it's not what we talked about, you know?

???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 30, 2013, 03:20:11 AM
If its not useable, just talk to them respectfully and concisely, and hope they don't flip out.

I learned the hard way long ago to either do the art myself, or hire a pro to do it. No longer leaving that to friends...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on December 30, 2013, 03:28:46 AM
Or friends who are pros.

I'd definitely talk to them about it, see if they remember what you were getting at.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 30, 2013, 10:08:51 AM
hey you people are right about halestorm. those old covers are consistently weak. their recorded material is basically not very special overall.
I watched a whole bunch more.

however, the one thing that stands is their attitude.  this is a live party band. that's what caught my eye in the first place.
but yeah, no depth. I be eatin some crow here, I randomly stumbled upon a decent video as my first look.

I still think the bangles are one awesome group. underrated as all hell by everyone
(feeble attempt at smokescreening to run from haleshitstorm)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on December 30, 2013, 02:51:16 PM
A bit of morning comedy for you to either enjoy (or reaffirm your dislike of me).

Background: I've got an empty Orange PPC412 on craigslist for $275. The ad very prominently discourages trades and lowball offers. Lowballing being a pet peeve of mine that I do not often practice myself, and NEVER in cases where the seller is firm or asks not to. Here is an email exchange from this morning.

Him: Could you do $200 on the empty cab?

Me: Sorry. I can only go as low as $300.

Him: Your ad says $275.00.

Me: Ah. So it does. I didn't think you read it since it also says no lowballs.

Him: New one for $711.00 + free shipping (he links to a new Orange COMPACT – budget – 4x12 with budget speakers on ebay)

Me: 1. Mine's a PPC412HP, not a "smaller, lighter, more compact" model.  2. Offer them $550. Then lament about it.

Him: $250 makes a little more sense. It'll cost over $400 to load it with vintage 30's and I can buy a brand new one for $711.00 with free shipping. At $250 at least I might be saving $40.00. otherwise, it's just not worth it when I can buy a brand new one for the same price.

Me: Then buy the new one. But there are definitely not Vintage 30s in that entry-level "compact" Orange auction you sent me, so rethink your math.

Him: Good luck. I'd rather have the compact unit.

Me: Appreciated. Best of luck to you and your compact unit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 30, 2013, 02:58:18 PM
Me: Ah. So it does. I didn't think you read it since it also says no lowballs.

that was beautiful.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on December 30, 2013, 03:04:48 PM
Ha! I figured you for the latter category, jib.

I'm glad you seem to agree that I had the high ground and was dickish only as a reaction to him being discourteous. Well, high ground up until the penis entendre.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on December 30, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
I have my Roland V-Drums on Craigslist for $1350, which gets about a 98% scam-as-reply ratio, but here was the latest 'offer'.

HIM:  "I have $600."
ME:  "Awesome!  Let me know when you get the other $750, and we have a deal.  In other words, fuck off."

Yeah, it was harsh, but deserved.  To the scammers that send me texts, I have a stored picture of my middle finger that gets used quite a lot in response.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 30, 2013, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: Jake on December 30, 2013, 02:51:16 PM
Me: Sorry. I can only go as low as $300.

Me: Appreciated. Best of luck to you and your compact unit.

Not as good as the Chevy Cavalier story but still quality.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on December 30, 2013, 09:22:22 PM
Jake can I retroactively low ball you on that Yamaha I bought off of you? It's got a scratch on it and I found an Epiphone gothic SG for less money. (JK!!)

P.S. That guitar is loving B standard tuning and life at sea level.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 30, 2013, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: black aspirin on December 30, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
I have my Roland V-Drums on Craigslist for $1350, which gets about a 98% scam-as-reply ratio, but here was the latest 'offer'.

HIM:  "I have $600."
ME:  "Awesome!  Let me know when you get the other $750, and we have a deal.  In other words, fuck off."

Yeah, it was harsh, but deserved.  To the scammers that send me texts, I have a stored picture of my middle finger that gets used quite a lot in response.

what's the good ole boy price? ironically , I have $600







8D 8D  j/k  [snicker face goes here]

naw, B&H dropped those crown xls 1500 amps to $350 to beat everyone else at the last minute. 31st is the last day of the sale. I think I am going to pull the trigger on a pair of them. 575w/ch clean into 4 ohms stereo. bridgeable to 1500 watts in 2ohm mono. great for reactive loads like subs, very quiet.  those are beasts.  good reviews everywhere I have read...

we are going to have a PA that my son can drum as loud as he wants to, and still hear it. so then we can add vocals, keys, bass(mic an amp) since the PA is full range high powered.  ultimately I want 4 of those amps. then I can rig any sized setup I need, or 2 separate setups even.

and now that I am going to cover journey to the center of the mind, I may actually put my money where my mouth is and get a sarcophagus, after the amps which I absolutely need more than anything else for the music system. why do I watch those fucking pedal demos. I end up wanting all of them. I am not even going to get started on slyman.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on January 01, 2014, 05:08:36 PM
The (original) Gothic series from Gibson and Epiphone are such great guitars.

I have been thinking of selling my Mock and Tele and just get one good guitar, something with P90's, and a good acoustic as of lately.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 01, 2014, 09:52:53 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on January 01, 2014, 05:08:36 PM

I have been thinking of selling and just get something with P90's,


Solid plan.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 02, 2014, 12:42:51 AM
Can anyone recommend a good accurate condenser in the $40-60 range?

Is something like this any good?- http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/677773-REG/MXL_MCA_SP1_MCA_SP1_Large_Diaphragm.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 03, 2014, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 02, 2014, 12:42:51 AM
Can anyone recommend a good accurate condenser in the $40-60 range?

Is something like this any good?- http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/677773-REG/MXL_MCA_SP1_MCA_SP1_Large_Diaphragm.html


bumpity bump bump
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 03, 2014, 07:09:48 PM
what is the etiquette on tipping your guitar repair tech. i recently took a bass in for some work, he is not a friend, just a local guitar tech with a great reputation that works out of a local music store. i am paying full price for his services. its it customary to tip these guys or is it not expected?? please help, im supposed to pick up the bass tomorrow. not that it matters but the bass was promised about a week ago but he didnt get to it as promised.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on January 03, 2014, 07:33:25 PM
I wouldn't tip unless he did a great job or hooked me up in some way.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 03, 2014, 07:33:50 PM
I don't think tipping is the norm and I'd bet he isn't expecting one.  I mean he works for musicians.  Most of which aren't exactly affluent.  Tip if you want I guess but I probably wouldn't.  Just like you don't tip your mechanic normally.

Whenever I use my card at a store, I'm always surprised there isn't a tip line.  I think I spend too much time in bars.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 03, 2014, 10:15:25 PM
Even expecting musicians to pay up for work I've done on time sets me up for disappointment.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on January 05, 2014, 07:43:23 PM
New things learned:

Using the high-pass filter on certain tracks is quite useful in getting rid of the muddiness of some of my recordings.
Using Multiinspector to see where the dominant frequencies are helped me to adjust tracks accordingly with EQ, and made a huge difference.
Some panning of different tracks helped them to be heard better in the mix.
Using the limiter on the Master was quite useful.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on January 05, 2014, 08:14:05 PM
Out stupid tipping culture is completely out of control. For servers who make less than minimum wage, I understand. But for most anything else, I totally hate it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 05, 2014, 11:45:14 PM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on January 06, 2014, 03:27:03 PM
Al's new digs. Did anybody see their Albuquerque or Denver set? Racer? How did it sound?

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1524996_10152155750454893_1129452626_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 06, 2014, 03:42:30 PM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on January 06, 2014, 03:27:03 PM
Al's new digs. Did anybody see their Albuquerque or Denver set? Racer? How did it sound?

(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1524996_10152155750454893_1129452626_n.jpg)

That was a seriously badass set. The tones were mighty, and the overall mix was excellent. This was the best sounding "loud band" show I've ever attended at the Sunshine Theater. They've put a lot of sound-deadening material up since the last one (Celtic Frost), so that may be the reason. Didn't catch an ear spear all night.

Performances were stellar, & Pike's white LP Supreme looks to be about 3" thick. They played most (maybe all) of Dopesmoker, but broke it up into movements. Also played material from Holy Mountain.

Al looks like a mad monk up there. Tune is zooming along at about 15 bpm, and his head is jiggling back & forth at 120 bpm. I'll assume that's his internal metronome ticking. It can be hard to keep time if you're counting in 3s or 4s at that slow of a pace...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on January 06, 2014, 11:14:37 PM
Saw the Denver set. Spectacular. All of Dopesmoker, three or so new songs, and some choice cuts from Holy Mountain.

Al didn't use the guitar part of the double neck for anything besides feedback swells, it seemed. Also spectacular.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on January 06, 2014, 11:34:53 PM
Jake, I got to thinking about the profile of my 77lp custard neck after I had done posted the words that it was chunky an it seems on further review that it is a sort of mid 70s generic medium profile.  See, I got a 90somethin lp junior and it most definitely has a 60's profile and anything next to that seems, well, chunky.  Was just on my mind.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 07, 2014, 09:15:34 PM
So I recently had my stricken-for-several-years Acoustic B200H brought back into service after spending $30 on a tech and a blown solder joint...

I used it once in a rehearsal and it kicked major ass!

Then used it at a gig and struggled half the night with it causing the speaker cable to constantly be spit out the back of the cabinet.

Added a Speakon jack to the back of my cabinet, I thought problem solved. Used the cab with my SVT for a gig with not problems whatsoever (even the SVT started doing the spitting-out-of-the-speaker-cable thing).

Tried the Acoustic the very next night, and as soon as I turned it on (set to a modest volume level, no less) every time I hit a note there would be a fraction of a second of sound, then the signal would cut out completely and be replaced with an angry ticking sound from inside the amp.

Well fuck fuck fuck fuck.

I wonder if the speaker load constantly being on/off during the aforementioned problematic gig damaged the transformer?

Or if it is just a cheap piece of consumer-grade garbage that I'd be better off throwing off a bridge than spending another cent on repairs for...

Cause God Damn, it sounded great the brief time it worked. But I don't have it in my budget to repair it again, much less buy a useable backup.

Now I am again down to only an SVT with tubes that are getting VERY tired... FML
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 07, 2014, 10:15:07 PM
danny, good news and bad news. solid state amps are immune to any high impedance monkeyshines. anything from rated ohms to infinity is cool(open circuit)
so the good news is that unloading the amp has no effect, which would absolutely destroy the outputs on a tube amp

bad news. you still don't have an amp working. my vote is for sloppy tolerance components/cheapo construction that is going to be a whiney bitch forever

funny. I was considering buying that rig from craigslist for $200. the dude has had it listed for a while now..so I keep thinking about it
maybe I should buy it now and see wtf is inside that little head. I sure had fun with the combo version that I bought for my nephew for 15minutes and my schecter.

edit: btw, I believe the "plays for a second" means the outputs are OK. you have a power supply weakness, or intermittent short/open/weak component in some key power related area, or a flat out short somewhere.   caveat: outputs are now IC's often, so there could be power related failure within the IC which technically is the outputs, but not specifically the output section.
I would have to look inside one or at the schematic to see what they use for outputs.

btw,  if the output was fried, it would be incapable of reproducing music at all for any amount of time

edit: what if the jack was shorting the speaker outs on its way sliding out of the socket. now that can raise hell with SS outputs. too much current =overheat=failure or partial crippling of the semiconductor matrix which weakens the junction overall and changes performance parameters. one of which could be excessive current draw or heat production now that it is half fried...or a ton of other similar types of issues
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 08, 2014, 02:59:53 AM
I'll pull the chassis and take some pics, and try not to smash it with a hammer in the process.

Few things boil my blood like faulty gear.

I saw a GK 400RB-II used at Guitar Center for $179 a week ago. Guess I should have grabbed it. But again, it's consumer grade... and used.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on January 08, 2014, 05:40:01 AM
Those newer Acoustics are nice sounding but quality can be an issue as you have noticed. GK on the other hand is nice sounding and doesn't break down easily in my experience.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 08, 2014, 06:34:16 AM
hey chief, IDk if a pic will help. you definitely could just give it a real close look over in good light.  look for burned areas, lifted traces, really nasty smells. electrolytic cap guts reek when they burn up.unmistakable smell, cold solder joints, solder slop jumping traces or donuts, an actual broken component. a physical look-see

beyond that, you need to trace the signal through the circuit and measure test points. a tech manual is really cool for that. and you would have to know your way around a bit to wing it by finding the different sections and guesstimating where supply/bias/I/O voltages should be.  that cant be done except in person by someone who been there done that. that wouldn't be me either. I need some test points beyond IDing basic sections.
even a weak power supply can help destroy things and make the whole circuit act squirrely, so you really cant eyeball that crap.

I was looking for that 2000 stack on craigslist. it might be gone. wtf. look at it for a month, then the day I kick around pulling the trigger on it, it is gone. kiss my ass. fuckers.
there is a nice carvin b100 whatever for $300. I like carvin shit. that would be a nice 100w amp because you can drop it all the way down to 25watts. not on the priority list tho.

if I was buying a bass rig today, there is a GK 700w 4x10 stack right down th street for $450
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/msg/4274924280.html


edit: haha mz, that was a great thing to read while I posted this GK rig that strikes my fancy
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 08, 2014, 12:52:36 PM
Re: build quality if the new Acoustics, yeah the direct out on mine went out shortly after getting it and having to bring it into service on the road as my svt was having some problems at the time.

I didn't see it as a problem as it sounded like ass anyway.

I'll poke around on it today and see if anything obvious.

Just sucks as I'm limited in the wattage I can use, my Dietz has 400w worth of speakers in it.

Used to have a Fender TB-600 which I was very pleased with but had to sell when I got the Dietz. The TB had already blown out 600w worth of speakers in my Isovent cab, which is still empty and disassembled in my storage unit...


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 12, 2014, 12:51:36 AM
So I noticed last week my Paul Stanley Iceman, which I did some rewiring on, was also having some intonation issues when using it in Ocean of Stars rehearsal.

D standard tuning, had just put on new DR 11-50 gauge strings.

Intonating it tonight, sure enough D string was way out of whack. But after moving the saddle as far forward as it could go, it still wasn't even close. Hmmm...

In years past I had a similar issue with the A string. Even changed out strings and same fucking deal. That particular issue dealt with a batch of faulty A strings..,

Taking a cue from that, I swapped out the D string with one from a different set. PROBLEM SOLVED and crisis averted.

I've had that guitar since 1996 and have been tempted to smash the damn thing many times over the years.

Luckily I didn't smash it this time. Crisis averted for now


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 12, 2014, 03:04:17 PM
I put a different bridge piece on my Scroll the other week because the one that came with the guitar was basically junk and one string was way off like that. Nothing seemed to help so I loosened the string tension way down, made a massive adjustment, and then tightened it back up and then only needed to do a minor saddle fine tuning and it was right on. This may be completely wrong but sometimes it seems like saddles carry a lot of tension during intonation adjustments when the strings are tight even when the saddles are moving okay. They sure are easier to move when you ease the pressure off by downtuning a bunch first. I also bought some lube which is nice. It loosened up a stubborn fucked up bridge screw.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 13, 2014, 12:37:39 AM
the A on my les paul studio was way out of whack from the  fibsome fagtory. the saddle is all the way up on that string. thank crom it dialed in right at the very end. I remember I was very frustrated when that guitar was new.

I sure as fuck learned a huge lesson from that. now along with general action, buzzy frets and weird twists in the neck, I always octave all the strings after comparing the open with the 5th fret on the next lower once that is dead nuts in tune.

"We won't get fooled again"


Oh No

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I cannot figure out best buy. I went up there to grab a sound card because the stupid fucking factory too friendly for retard use but impossible for anyone else to use(breath) fucking stock sound chip cant listen and play at the same time. fuck u asus.

all I wanted to do was rip foxen's epic 20min creepy song.
in the past , since the dawn of whenever maybe win 98 soundblaster could do that, I never gave it a second thought. if I can hear it, audacity can record it..or so I thought.

ANYWAY...I look at a couple online, and go down to best buy. the place looks like it is half going out of business. I rummage all around and find 2 soundblasters. one was the $99 LOOKING one I kind of wanted but it had no price and no place on the shelf, and the other was older with an extra aux line in(key feature) says it works with win 8 ok. was $62 or something. so I ask the dude for a pricecheck, he double takes and then double checks...he's like "damn, $39, yeah was $99"... i'm like "cool, just for yucks, whats the price the other one"
he comes up with $23...I just grabbed them both , I got change back from 3 20's.

I also played around with all the tablets. those are soooo sexy.   what an amazing control interface one of those will make too. sooo touchy feely heh. yeah. sweet.

then I looked at the super hi def sony TV. it is an LED, but it has a nice glass front and HOLEEEE SHIII-THUH the hi def promo reel they had running...I almost sold my soul on the spot..i had to run away.  until further notice, that LED is better than the plasmas.  the other regular led tvs all look like you are looking through an acrylic aquarium vs glass. slow refresh, that faint hazy smear. fuck that shit. it was making my eyes water.  LED's really do blow when you can see side-by-side comparisons.
one good look will fuck you up from regular LED's forever YOU BEEN WARNED

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 14, 2014, 04:20:00 AM
So Disco Rice has been playing guitar for my noise band (duo). We already played a show in December, and we have another one at the end of January.

"But Disco Rice is a drummer" I hear you say.

Exactly.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 14, 2014, 09:46:28 AM
excellent.   that news made my fucking day.   back atcha!!!


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they need to get this shit fixed. the 3rd call is going to be a nasty one if I have to make it.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 14, 2014, 10:44:13 AM
Disco Rice loves offset fenders
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 14, 2014, 11:42:45 AM
Noise is all about drummers hitting things other than drums.

He should fit right in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 14, 2014, 07:19:41 PM
Ernie Ball has great customer service... I've bought 2 volume pedals on Ebay where the previous owner removed the rubber feet and added velcro.

Ernie Ball has sent me replacement feet... twice... for free. For pedals I bought second-hand. They don't even ask for postage.

Plus I really like their volume pedals, for the price.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 14, 2014, 11:59:58 PM
Nice.

Speaking of velcro, Furman sent me more for free. I think I threw away all the rubber feet  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 15, 2014, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: black aspirin on January 05, 2014, 07:43:23 PM

Some panning of different tracks helped them to be heard better in the mix.


This is plain old crucial. If you send it all up the middle no instrument gets its own place to breathe. Scoot your bass over 15% to one side, see what happens. Hello bass track, nice to meet you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on January 15, 2014, 10:55:09 AM
Interesting.  I've always left the bass in the center, I guess because there's only one of them. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on January 15, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
I like to pan my toms from left to right, like I hear them behind the set. Not like you'd hear them out in the audience.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 15, 2014, 12:33:46 PM
Quote from: agent of change on January 15, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
I like to pan my toms from left to right, like I hear them behind the set. Not like you'd hear them out in the audience.

Ooh, great idea.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 15, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
Panning on '60s albums was sometimes really wild. Like drums or vocals hard left or right and they would change it up track to track to trip you out. Dig.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 15, 2014, 02:18:22 PM
Try listening to Sgt. Pepper through one channel.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on January 15, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
I second that dig smokey...

QuoteAl looks like a mad monk up there. Tune is zooming along at about 15 bpm, and his head is jiggling back & forth at 120 bpm. I'll assume that's his internal metronome ticking. It can be hard to keep time if you're counting in 3s or 4s at that slow of a pace...

Hah! That's awesome... :)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 15, 2014, 08:54:41 PM
Got new pickup fitted to my bass so I can use it live with my dual amp thing.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/Incarante/DSCF1796_zps78938e15.jpg) (http://s17.photobucket.com/user/Incarante/media/DSCF1796_zps78938e15.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 15, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
That's the exact same bass Smeagol plays.  :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 16, 2014, 02:06:06 AM
Whoah. That or made by the Uruk Hai.

Regardless, that's a mean looking and fucking awesome chunk of wood \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 16, 2014, 06:22:52 AM
That thing is awesome Foxen!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 16, 2014, 06:43:04 AM
Carvin Ebay dude "someone put empty boxes on top of your amp at my work and the driver didn't take it, be patient I'll have it out tomorrow"

Shit happens but DUDE.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 16, 2014, 06:54:07 AM
positioning in the stereo field is a lot of fun too.
you can set up the drums like as % of the stereo field and put the whole kit in its proper places. use tiniest bit of delay 100% wet to move things away from you in the 3-d stereo field.   I find that sliding tracks a millisec at a time back, can reposition voicings. have to play with that in more of a control, like 3 drums and see if they can be shoved all around the soundstage, not just side-to-side.

clean monitors helps a lot. they don't have to be audiophile just image clean.

i always put my bass in center or as close as possible just because that is the most demanding frequency to reproduce and i would like both speakers basically doing it "mono eeeee mono" haha.  -to share the load most efficiently.

early album mixes were a trip. you called it. some beatles tunes, you start looking at your stereo like "wtf, did i just lose the right channel?" then the vocals come in all alone or w/e.
there were some doors mixes that were crazy like that.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on January 16, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
Yesterday, I dissolved the 3-piece I formed about a year ago. The main reason being we sucked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 16, 2014, 12:53:58 PM
That's a good reason.  No chemistry?  No time to practice?  Shitty drummer?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on January 16, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 16, 2014, 01:14:18 PM
 :D  I played drums in a band a while back where I was a far better guitar and bass player than the guitar player and bass player but it was a blast cuz we wrote silly songs with highlarious lyrics and were all great friends.  I moved on though.  You just gotta have a killer drummer.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 16, 2014, 01:25:53 PM
Recording drone doom tracks is a real fun. Listening to them is less fun but I really enjoyed the process of creating the songs. Whole album done in about 20 hours? Well, nothing new for me (but probably it's the main reason why my music sucks :D).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on January 16, 2014, 09:16:27 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 15, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
Panning on '60s albums was sometimes really wild. Like drums or vocals hard left or right and they would change it up track to track to trip you out. Dig.

ya they really did, hendrix did a ton in his 4 years of recording. this Grateful dead Anthem of the Sun album goes crazy with panning and trippy prog stuff prolly the pennacle of panning to extremes:


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 16, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
^ fantastic album


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on January 17, 2014, 08:37:56 PM
Ahhh, yes.  It came in today.  So far, I'm really happy with the purchase.  I wanted it because it provides plenty of gain, tons of adjustment, and a built-in gate.  And it's living up to all of that thus far.  I'm already getting a ton of different tones out of this thing, including some good fuzzy doom tones when thrown over a little bit of amp gain.

Will probably still pick up a Rat (maybe that Keeley mod), but this thing is a keeper.

(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m3/blackaspirin/IMG_2575_zps217f5cc1.jpg) (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/blackaspirin/media/IMG_2575_zps217f5cc1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on January 17, 2014, 08:48:38 PM
  inagaddadavida?  hmm... digging a listen right now, cheers

I think they should put switchable noisegates in more noisey pedals, good call there :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 18, 2014, 03:20:48 AM
so I had on my down vest because I was I little chilly after eating a big bowl of cereal, and I decided to play some guitar along the way.  heh. that was comfy as hell with that vest under the guitar strap. whoodathunk.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 18, 2014, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: agent of change on January 15, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
I like to pan my toms from left to right, like I hear them behind the set. Not like you'd hear them out in the audience.

Being a drummer, the other way sounds downright backwards to me. Same for cymbals, ride on the right, hats on the left.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 18, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Steve Albini does it from drummer's point of view. Not really sure why i keep listening to stuff he says, because I have basically nothing to do with micing stuff. Should stick with his cooking blog.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on January 18, 2014, 12:06:42 PM
At one time Albini just flat out recorded bands differently than anyone else.  Who knows, maybe there are a thousand engineer a likes out there now or maybe he engineers a wider range of style these days.  Ive always liked listening to his recordings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on January 18, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
Omlet I'm looking forward to hearing more of your stuff!

A friend of mine went over to record with Albini, during the sesh he said to him "do us a favour, can you let us know if we start speeding up at any point?" Albini said "No I won't, it's none of my business if you start to speed up", I love that :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 18, 2014, 01:57:18 PM
Jem: it's out now, you can download it for free at http://perfb.bandcamp.com/album/obsidian (as I mentioned about it in um, some other topic :D)
Also I have three new "songs" almost done but I'm not satisfied with them - they are too similar to each other so I think they must wait til I manage to make something a little more different.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on January 18, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on January 18, 2014, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: agent of change on January 15, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
I like to pan my toms from left to right, like I hear them behind the set. Not like you'd hear them out in the audience.

Being a drummer, the other way sounds downright backwards to me. Same for cymbals, ride on the right, hats on the left.

Yep

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 18, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
To non drummers that way sounds weird on albums.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 18, 2014, 07:32:06 PM
Well then fuck y'all.

I shall now attribute the preference to my literacy in a left-to-right written language. Yeah. Everyone who disagrees is obv an Arab terrorist who hates freedom.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 18, 2014, 08:31:45 PM
Drums... on the last nine tracks I recorded, only one contains (programmed) drums... And one contains... single, down-pitched crash :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 19, 2014, 01:01:14 AM
I used to prefer panning drums from the front side perspective. Once I realized most drummers prefer the kit side perspective and most non musicians don't notice either way, I went with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 19, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
It really is a snooty detail, maybe one in twenty people would ever even notice. My friend uses the Glynn John method on his kit and it sounds fantastic, but it pans backwards for my preference.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 19, 2014, 01:09:12 AM
Playing drums on my stuff its usually two channels, one about 1.5 to 2 feet from the kick and one overhead + one on the snare mixed together.

I'd pan them for an overall mix but use the from the audience perspective, so the overhead/snare leaned to the right and the kick leaned to the left.

Never really though about doing the opposite (drummer pov), I'll try it.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 19, 2014, 05:34:42 PM
Got my Fender Vibro champ back up and running after over 10 years of sitting!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 19, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
Good deal. Hope it fares better than my Acoustic B200H...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 19, 2014, 10:12:44 PM
I just sent a text inquiring about buying a fuzz pedal zI built?  derp.  never should have sold it.





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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 19, 2014, 10:58:42 PM
Quote from: Danny G on January 19, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
Good deal. Hope it fares better than my Acoustic B200H...


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Thanks, I hope you get that Acoustic up and Blazing again someday too.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 19, 2014, 11:38:35 PM
I've kinda given up on it.

I may open it up for a look-see and/or try it out again in a rehearsal but its already proven itself to be problematic.

Gear either works consistently (with proper maintenance), or it does not.


Kinda like relationships.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 20, 2014, 12:54:03 AM
Thinking about getting an inexpensive strat scale guitar for F# standard tuning for a sludgy doom project. I like Elixir's Nanowebs so I'd try 17 26 36 46 56(which I currently use with the addition of a 13 on my Scroll for B standard) and their baritone 68 for the low F# string. Thinking that should work okay although that low string might be a bit less defined than I'd like it to be. I was down in F# for awhile with an Epi LP and it didn't sound that great but that was with a more traditional metal tone. Or I could look into longer scale 7 strings(and leave one off, 6 is enough) and baritones.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 20, 2014, 01:12:53 AM
Strat is a great option because they have a longer scale length, can be had cheeeeeaaaaap and the singles fight off the muddiness of the tone. I love grizzly, brutal distortion with a single coil.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 20, 2014, 01:30:40 AM
I was only thinking about that scale length but now you've got me pondering single coil pups. I used to have a Squire Strat that played pretty nice, sold or traded it in for something else, shouldn't have done that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 20, 2014, 02:09:53 AM
What about P-90s?


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Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 20, 2014, 07:50:45 AM
loose strings will never give you what you want.

Listen to Conan. That's F#. I'd say 72 on the bottom, minimum, 14 high. You want some tension. Make a super strat. My jackson kelly is in A standard 68-14 and it's a bit floppy for me.


Also,  fuck wound G strings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 20, 2014, 09:15:34 AM
I play the Beefy Slinky set (C std) with a plain .22 G string. I love that thing.

To me, a strat aint a strat if is anything other than SSS configuration, with one exception, where the middle pick up is removed. No one uses that shit anyway.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 20, 2014, 09:28:58 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 20, 2014, 07:50:45 AM
loose strings will never give you what you want.

Listen to Conan. That's F#. I'd say 72 on the bottom, minimum, 14 high. You want some tension. Make a super strat. My jackson kelly is in A standard 68-14 and it's a bit floppy for me.


Also,  fuck wound G strings.

For B I'm doing good with 13-56 so 17-68 for F# sounds about right aside from the scale being a bit short for the low F# string. 72 probably would be better but that is pretty close to 68. 14 seems too thin for the high F#, I used to use one for my high B. Those Nanowebs really cut down on wound string squawk.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 20, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
I play a 58 in Eb... Just sayin.

For real though, bigger string = clearer tone.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 20, 2014, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 20, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
I play a 58 in Eb... Just sayin.

Holy fuck!

Quote from: SunnO))) on January 20, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
For real though, bigger string = clearer tone.

Definitely. I like the somewhat loose tone that lighter strings provide though, to a point. It's a balancing act.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 20, 2014, 07:29:21 PM
My old bandmate Eric Tessmer uses like 13-63's or higher in E flat.

It works. And sounds good. And he's crazy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 20, 2014, 08:50:23 PM
Why do you think I make knives now?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on January 20, 2014, 08:52:30 PM
Yeah. I even sold my drums and thought "Well maybe I'll also be that guy who turns 40, has kids, and gives up playing music." But then after about a year I figured out what the problem was, and changed it, and the right people showed up to play music with. And I've got an even better kit and actually love my bandmates.

Sometimes maybe we gotta give shit up for a while to get a new perspective on it. But also I gave up any dream of being a rock star a long long time ago, and play music because it's who I am.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 09:01:28 PM
i never even considered being a rock star. all the bands ive ever played in are/were not nearly commercial enough. i have had and still do have my rock star moments from time to time though.. that's all that matters in the end. you still find a way to play....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on January 20, 2014, 09:02:10 PM
+1 agent
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 20, 2014, 09:44:36 PM
Other reasons may come & go, but the one constant reason I make music is because I enjoy it.
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Post by: BrianDamage on January 20, 2014, 09:56:26 PM
About to buy an ESP Eclipse I. ESP not LTD body with no electronics in it for 350. I think I am gonna go vintage style with the pickups and shit.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 20, 2014, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 

After one band, to which I dedicated pretty much everything, vaporized because a couple guys were too lazy to come to practice, I was over it. I looked for (and somehow) found a way to stay involved without the prospect of making a buck from my own output ever being an issue, which has kept things real easy going ever since.

That and I've been away from home for nigh on five fucking years now, pretty hard to keep up a band under that context.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 20, 2014, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 

One time (the only time...) I saw this guy William Parker play the bass (double bass aka upright bass). The best bass player I've ever seen, by far - not that I've seen every upright bass player in the world, but if you told me he was the best in the world I would believe it. It was a free jazz trio or quartet, I forget, and the stuff he was doing on bass when he was 'laying back' was more powerful and more interesting than what I've seen other bass players do when they're 'going for it'. He was a monster, he manhandled it like a toy, really strong physically, and ideas were just flowing out of him. He was like a force of nature. But there was only like 5 people at the show (matinee in Brooklyn). That didn't seem to matter to the dudes in the band. Afterwards, William Parker probably didn't go home and wonder why he was still playing music... he probably just got ready to do the next thing on his schedule. So sometimes, when I'm wondering why the fuck am I wasting time playing music that nobody else likes or cares about, I think about William Parker, maybe the best bass player in the world, and how he doesn't get discouraged and have a crisis of self-doubt because there's only 5 people at his show, etc. He just keeps on going anyway. That story seems to help me, maybe it will help you too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 21, 2014, 12:25:24 AM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 


Often. All the time actually. But I don't want to do anything else with my life, and for all the hardships and bullshit, it's been worth every second of my life that I've dedicated to it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 21, 2014, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 20, 2014, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 

One time (the only time...) I saw this guy William Parker play the bass (double bass aka upright bass). The best bass player I've ever seen, by far - not that I've seen every upright bass player in the world, but if you told me he was the best in the world I would believe it. It was a free jazz trio or quartet, I forget, and the stuff he was doing on bass when he was 'laying back' was more powerful and more interesting than what I've seen other bass players do when they're 'going for it'. He was a monster, he manhandled it like a toy, really strong physically, and ideas were just flowing out of him. He was like a force of nature. But there was only like 5 people at the show (matinee in Brooklyn). That didn't seem to matter to the dudes in the band. Afterwards, William Parker probably didn't go home and wonder why he was still playing music... he probably just got ready to do the next thing on his schedule. So sometimes, when I'm wondering why the fuck am I wasting time playing music that nobody else likes or cares about, I think about William Parker, maybe the best bass player in the world, and how he doesn't get discouraged and have a crisis of self-doubt because there's only 5 people at his show, etc. He just keeps on going anyway. That story seems to help me, maybe it will help you too.




^^^THIS.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on January 21, 2014, 06:15:35 AM
That's a great story Lumpy :)

The people who I see burn out/lose it/allow music to make them miserable, are always people who started to want more out of it than just their own personal satisfaction, I cant believe the number of people I've seen go through this, I cant imagine that's you tho mort! Whats up?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on January 21, 2014, 06:30:07 AM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 

discouraged sometimes, yes, but not the other part, since music is only one of a number of things i could say i've dedicated my life to.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 21, 2014, 06:34:26 AM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands??  
Well, my music sucks so badly that I'm forced to play it as solo project(s). Sometimes I don't care (and don't really care that almost nobody listens to it) but in most cases I'm really, really discouraged. And it leads to situations when I don't even touch the guitar for six months or so...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on January 21, 2014, 07:03:59 AM
thinking on that, I was so busy thinking of those other people and their reasons, when I think of myself, there are plenty reasons for why iv been discouraged, thinking I was shit for the first few years of playing was discouraging, I used to dread going down to the practise rooms because I didn't want anyone to hear, trying out 4-5 drummers over months and none of them working out, the fact I harass myself all the time for not being as good as I want to be can be discouraging, driving 2 and a half hours to practise only for the drummer not to show up because he was sleeping and having to drive 2 and half hours home was discouraging, being boo'd and told to fuck off while playing live was discouraging. Yeah it can be pretty discouraging. But none of that was as discouraging as the time I was depressed because I wasn't making music, had no band, no-one seemed to want to do anything with me, that was much worse, like the other guys say its just something we want to do, so not doing it doesn't really work, sometimes you just have to push through the hard times...

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 21, 2014, 07:17:45 AM
That's the good side of playing solo - no one (except yourself) will ever disappoint you. And no one will complain about how bad player you are :D
The main downside is lack of live activities - but I don't care, as I really suck at playing if I'm not 100% focused :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 21, 2014, 09:15:04 AM
Mortlock's been playing in heavy bands since like 1990, he doesn't toot his own horn much here, but kudos for his long commitment.

Personally, I tend to give up on things too soon, but music is so important to me, I hope to be playing it in some form or another for the rest of my life. Even if it's just in my bedroom.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 21, 2014, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: Danny G on January 20, 2014, 07:29:21 PM
My old bandmate Eric Tessmer uses like 13-63's or higher in E flat.

It works. And sounds good. And he's crazy.

This is the SRV school of guitaring.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 21, 2014, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on January 21, 2014, 06:15:35 AM
That's a great story Lumpy :)

The people who I see burn out/lose it/allow music to make them miserable, are always people who started to want more out of it than just their own personal satisfaction, I cant believe the number of people I've seen go through this, I cant imagine that's you tho mort! Whats up?
im good, probably more of a mild midlife moment. im not willing to accept how sore I am the next day after an intense 2 hour practice session..haha. fuck it, if lemmy can still do it, so can I. ftw!!

thanks for the props lumpy. youre a gentleman and a scholar..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:15:04 PM
I haven't exactly dedicated my life to playing music, I see that as a sleep, work, play guitar/sing and do little else lifestyle which doesn't appeal to me at all because I am too lazy and like fucking off too much but after many years of being a terrible guitar player, writing mostly cliche mediocre riffs and no full songs, sometimes not touching my guitar for weeks and months at a time, and having only near band experiences that didn't go anywhere, I'm really glad that I stuck with it now that I'm in a band that plays out and records. Almost as soon as that started things began to fall into place. I got somewhat better at guitar quickly because I had to practice more in order to remember and get good at material that I was writing, I began to learn how to write songs, how to sing(it had been almost 20 years), and how to write lyrics. Sometimes it does suck but playing guitar and writing is so much more enjoyable now. I now have an actual vision that I feel is my own no matter how derivative it may seem to some(not sure about that yet but not too concerned) and sharing it with people live is usually very rewarding the times I'm not super nervous, even when we clear half the room after a song because we are slow.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 21, 2014, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 

Yeah, but only every other week or so lol. I'm technically in 4 bands right now and I haven't played a show since October of 2011. I keep thinking about doing a solo project, because I can't ever get a group of people fully on board with what I want to do. Either musically or just practically with the kind of schedule and activity I want out of being in a band. At one point years ago I just decided to focus on being a recording/mixing engineer instead of being a gigging musician, but that eventually washed out. If you want a hobby that has a worse ratio of investment to return, record OTHER musicians. Now I just have my recording setup at home and record my own stuff, but that seems to have becomes endlessly recording bands that never finish anything and then fizzle out or break out without ever actually doing anything. So I just work for free and never really get to play the music I want or I like the music and the band never does anything. I have never had any kind of ambition to be famous through music or make it a career either, just a hobby. Failing at a hobby feels kind of more hollowing and defeating than failing at a career.

Right now I'm trying to just focus on doing things I enjoy and getting the most out of the moment. Enjoying a jam, recording a song for myself, whatever. In the past I've tended to start doing things for myself, then go searching for people to turn it into a full band and get frustrated and give up. I think I'll probably get more out of music in the future if I focus on doing what I want by myself and completing it...then if I can find people to do it I will just treat it like auditions for a band. Instead of trying to start a band from scratch, with a handful of songs/riffs/ideas and it going off the rails before it gets started.

Your issue might be totally different, but my issue is focus. I enjoy something, I get a little ADD and take off on a course with it, then when it starts not working out I just kind of get depressed and give up. Trying to just keep my focus on doing the thing I want to do for myself or if I'm playing with other people just enjoying what I'm doing at that time and not get caught up in all the things that aren't happening that I want. Not that I'm the zen master, not giving advice, I'm a mess lol. I've never been one of those people that threatens to quit music, that's not an option for me, because it's just something I love doing. Love is a generous term, it's just something I'm obsessed with doing and I'm constantly trying to find a more emotionally healthy way to be in love with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on January 21, 2014, 06:15:35 AM
The people who I see burn out/lose it/allow music to make them miserable, are always people who started to want more out of it than just their own personal satisfaction, I cant believe the number of people I've seen go through this

A lot of people also want to make it big, or let's say would rather be playing music for a living than working at a call center or restaurant. I think it often comes down to how much they think about that versus how much they simply enjoy the music they make. Who wouldn't love to be at the High On Fire level for example? But if you don't get there after years of albums and shows and it bums you out big time then yeah, that's allowing that dream to create misery which is sad.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:25:09 PM
UPS just showed up with my Carvin. The box is cold, going to wait as long as I can before opening it and cranked it up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 21, 2014, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:25:09 PM
UPS just showed up with my Carvin. The box is cold, going to wait as long as I can before opening it and cranked it up.

What did you get from Carvin?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on January 21, 2014, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:25:09 PM
UPS just showed up with my Carvin. The box is cold, going to wait as long as I can before opening it and cranked it up.

What did you get from Carvin?

XV-112 off ebay. Basically a top mounted X100B.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARVIN-XV-112-ALL-TUBE-AMP-SAME-AS-CARVIN-X100B-/261369010370?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 21, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
Recording vocals with $1 mic and laptop's internal soundcard sucks alot. Also, I suck at mixing tracks up, so probably it wouldn't be very awesome. Luckily after eq-ing mic's own hiss is easily dominated with tone of the guitar. And as I don't want super-clear and pro effect, I'm still rather satisfied with the results.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 21, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
XV-112 off ebay. Basically a top mounted X100B.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARVIN-XV-112-ALL-TUBE-AMP-SAME-AS-CARVIN-X100B-/261369010370?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

Nice, my X100B has become my go to amp since I bought it a few years ago. I assume that was a combo that someone chopped and converted into a head.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on January 21, 2014, 01:38:37 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 21, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
XV-112 off ebay. Basically a top mounted X100B.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CARVIN-XV-112-ALL-TUBE-AMP-SAME-AS-CARVIN-X100B-/261369010370?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

Nice, my X100B has become my go to amp since I bought it a few years ago. I assume that was a combo that someone chopped and converted into a head.

It looks 100% stock in the photos. I think it was just a limited head version. I'll get a closer look in a few hours.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on January 21, 2014, 03:17:54 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 21, 2014, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on January 21, 2014, 06:15:35 AM
That's a great story Lumpy :)

The people who I see burn out/lose it/allow music to make them miserable, are always people who started to want more out of it than just their own personal satisfaction, I cant believe the number of people I've seen go through this, I cant imagine that's you tho mort! Whats up?
im good, probably more of a mild midlife moment. im not willing to accept how sore I am the next day after an intense 2 hour practice session..haha. fuck it, if lemmy can still do it, so can I. ftw!!

thanks for the props lumpy. youre a gentleman and a scholar..


Hah! Maybe you need to chill down your intensive 2 hour sessions! Hell knows what you must do! ;)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 21, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 20, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
any of you guys ever get discouraged and ask yourself why the fuck you dedicated your life to music and being in bands?? 

I get discouraged all the time but this ain't the reason.  I get discouraged with my lack of follow through and knowledge of recording.  I can play just all the instruments I want to record.  I just need to focus on learning how.  I've always been a player and less of an engineer.  Actually playing music is something I have no choice about.  It's just what I do and being in a band isn't always the way it goes, like right now I haven;t been in a band in 2 years but I'm starting to feel the itch.  But music has always been a constant with me from my first band in 85 and will remain so until I'm dead.  But my main source of discouragement is the lack of recorded output.  I hear all you other guys posting tunes and dammit I wanna play too. >:(

On a side note, I ran into Rob Wrong the other day and he wants me to come over and show me his demo recording set up so maybe I'll glean some info and get a little motivation.
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on January 21, 2014, 06:45:38 PM
If so please share.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 21, 2014, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on January 21, 2014, 07:03:59 AM
thinking on that, I was so busy thinking of those other people and their reasons, when I think of myself, there are plenty reasons for why iv been discouraged, thinking I was shit for the first few years of playing was discouraging, I used to dread going down to the practise rooms because I didn't want anyone to hear, trying out 4-5 drummers over months and none of them working out, the fact I harass myself all the time for not being as good as I want to be can be discouraging, driving 2 and a half hours to practise only for the drummer not to show up because he was sleeping and having to drive 2 and half hours home was discouraging, being boo'd and told to fuck off while playing live was discouraging. Yeah it can be pretty discouraging. But none of that was as discouraging as the time I was depressed because I wasn't making music, had no band, no-one seemed to want to do anything with me, that was much worse, like the other guys say its just something we want to do, so not doing it doesn't really work, sometimes you just have to push through the hard times...




Indeed Jem.

It's not how many times you get knocked down, it's how many times you get back up
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 12:38:45 AM
The tolex on the Carvin is a little sloppy in a few spots but it still looks like a factory produced head. Overall it's in very good/clean condition aside from the missing back piece. I'll put something on there to protect the tubes.

VERY loud amp. Holy balls. Maybe kind of like a Mesa Mark series trying to be a JCM800 or Marshall doing a Mark type amp but maybe not as quality sounding. Still a good amp though, completely worth $300 especially with new tubes even without a footswitch. I suspect it might be biased a bit cold. The lead channel with the distortion knob on 10 and the hot rod button pulled out goes to 11 kind of volume. Insane. Even on 2 it's loud. The clean channel sounds good and makes my distortion pedal sound more 3 dimensional and brutal. Speaker destroying low end is on tap with the bass knob and especially with the 5 band EQ. I'm sure this thing could work as a bass amp up to moderate volumes and probably even louder if you want power amp overdrive. I will try the 25 and 50 watt settings soon. A resonance knob would be nice but you usually can't have every feature in one amp. By early/mid-80s standards this unit is pretty loaded.

It has more headroom than I was expecting so I'll use it at our next band practice and see how it does. If I decide to only use the preamp I'll set the power amp at 25 watts and plug that into a cheap 1x12 and point it away or something. Might try running side by side the full head into a cab and it's preamp signal into a SS power amp into another cab and see at what volume level the tube unit really starts to develop excessive comparative looseness/breakup and listen for overall comparative blandness of the SS unit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 22, 2014, 03:59:19 AM
You can generate cabinet-exploding volume with one head with a preamp out to a slave power unit and speakers for each one. Disgusting volume. It rules.

Set it to 25 watts and dime it. Let the slave do the volume.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 04:29:10 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on January 22, 2014, 03:59:19 AM
You can generate cabinet-exploding volume with one head with a preamp out to a slave power unit and speakers for each one. Disgusting volume. It rules.

Set it to 25 watts and dime it. Let the slave do the volume.

I was thinking 25 watts(to save energy) to a small cab that was pointed away from the band/audience just so the amp isn't damaged while the 350 watt SS power amp section of my bass head does the heavy lifting in a much tighter manner but I could also just run the Carvin head into one regular cab and slave it to the bass head and run that into the other regular cab and set the volume so that the bass head would make up for the lack of volume from the Carvin. I'll stop boring everyone with this stuff and just experiment.. as soon as the night is over and I can be loud. I'll do some sleeping first.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 05:17:05 AM
Anyone know if these are crap? The price is way less than most 26.5-27" scale baritone 6 and 7 strings I've seen online. Should be good down to at least F#, maybe even E.

http://www.rondomusic.com/product4514.html

(http://www.rondomusic.net/photos/electric/grendle725bk1.jpg)

I'm not sure if they ever made a 6 string version of this in 27". They did make them with a Floyd type trem.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on January 22, 2014, 05:37:36 AM
Speaking about motivation, I don't think I ever had more motivation than now. Our synths player went to Thailand in December and the drummer and me just kept on rehearsing, getting a really tight rhythm section. Now the synths are back with us and all of a sudden we have not 1 but 3 maybe 4 jams of about 7 minutes. So in the next few weeks we're gonna iron those out and record them after so we can put out a cassette and get to playing shows. After 2 years of wrangling/not doing much in a band with my best friends, this is so much more relaxed AND focused.
We're thinking of adding maybe a guitar player but he or she can't mind playing the same thing for 4 minutes.

Oh, I think our bandname is Pleasure Penthouse. Or at least something along those lines.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 07:50:27 AM
Should be good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 22, 2014, 10:11:30 AM
If it isn't they'll say it should have been.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 07:50:27 AM
Should be good.

The Douglas?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 01:22:09 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 07:50:27 AM
Should be good.

The Douglas?

Yep. Leave all seven strings on. Tune the high strings together slightly out of tune for spooky leads.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 22, 2014, 02:10:22 PM
or just play out of tune.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 22, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Depending upon whether I decide to go with a hollow, semi-hollow, or solid body guitar, this might be my next electric guitar:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EmpireMR?device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CPivwa3FkrwCFaZAMgodogMAYw

(http://www.sweetwater.com/images/guitars/EmpireMR/13025188/13025188-front-large.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 22, 2014, 02:58:47 PM
Seven-string guitar? I'd just tune it DDADGBE :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:09:24 PM
Or you could do Low E, AADGBE like FloorTorche/Florche does?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 22, 2014, 03:27:42 PM
Or you could add a few extra "e"s or "E"s to the Ostrich tuning:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich_guitar
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 03:31:44 PM
F# or low E standard, mega sonic destruction and you can still drone or do whatever other types of gimmicky stuff with the low string, not that tuning that low isn't a gimmick in itself. No string in the lowest position to help my hand and wrist out with a 7 string. I'd rather get a 6er but am having a hard time finding one under 200 with a 'normal'(Gibson, etc) bridge. Not that guitars that cheap are usually a good idea. These are interesting though-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161205196915&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDE2MDA=/z/t18AAOxyVaBS3xDn/$_12.JPG)


The Mehringer Super Fuzz sounds not at all meh into my new Carvin. In fact it sounds awesome. Baritone no bass Fanatics/Dopethrone type project in the go ahead stage.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:38:10 PM
Those Ibanez guitars are shitpiles...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 22, 2014, 03:38:32 PM
My next guitar is gonna be an SBG dammit since I've half assed attempted to buy 2 from this here jam room to no avail.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
I should probably buy my Guild back.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:38:10 PM
Those Ibanez guitars are shitpiles...

Thank you.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Let me do some research. What's your budget?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Let me do some research. What's your budget?

Zero but I need to make something happen so as little as possible, like $150-200. This will be exclusively for very sludgy stuff so I don't need something high quality. I will use stock pups. 26&1/2" or 27" scale. Most of them are big bucks or at least $350ish.

Rondo doesn't have a special baritone section on their website so I think the 6 string ones are mixed in with the regular 6ers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 22, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Quote from: RAGER on January 22, 2014, 03:38:32 PM
My next guitar is gonna be an SBG dammit since I've half assed attempted to buy 2 from this hear jam room to no avail.

wtf is an "SBG"?

Solid body guitar? Supremo boner guitar? Super bogus guitar?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
You may be looking for top shelf on a boxed wine budget. Get the 7 string.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 03:57:10 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
You may be looking for top shelf on a boxed wine budget. Get the 7 string.

The Douglas.. yeah, I probably should. Might shoot Rondo an email first though. A wider neck means more weight crushing my little shoulder and back.  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 22, 2014, 04:00:59 PM
SBG3000

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/sbg3000_zps2d922b60.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/sbg3000_zps2d922b60.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 04:14:49 PM
Bless the sweet baby I want one of those...
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 22, 2014, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Let me do some research. What's your budget?

Zero but I need to make something happen so as little as possible, like $150-200. This will be exclusively for very sludgy stuff so I don't need something high quality. I will use stock pups. 26&1/2" or 27" scale. Most of them are big bucks or at least $350ish.

Rondo doesn't have a special baritone section on their website so I think the 6 string ones are mixed in with the regular 6ers.

They have a search function. I searched for "baritone" and came up with this:

http://www.rondomusic.com/tl100mn627.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/tl100mn627.html)


EDIT: Also found this Agile LP style baritone on sale

http://www.rondomusic.com/shadow627bk1.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/shadow627bk1.html)

They also have some other Douglas LP style baritones for under $200. Just search "27", because they put the scale length in the model number to denote baritones I guess.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 04:35:49 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on January 22, 2014, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Let me do some research. What's your budget?

Zero but I need to make something happen so as little as possible, like $150-200. This will be exclusively for very sludgy stuff so I don't need something high quality. I will use stock pups. 26&1/2" or 27" scale. Most of them are big bucks or at least $350ish.

Rondo doesn't have a special baritone section on their website so I think the 6 string ones are mixed in with the regular 6ers.

They have a search function. I searched for "baritone" and came up with this:

http://www.rondomusic.com/tl100mn627.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/tl100mn627.html)


EDIT: Also found this Agile LP style baritone on sale

http://www.rondomusic.com/shadow627bk1.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/shadow627bk1.html)

They also have some other Douglas LP style baritones for under $200. Just search "27", because they put the scale length in the model number to denote baritones I guess.


Ah. Good price on that LP. I'd prefer double cut away but.. hmmm..

This 26.5" Jackson is cheap too- http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-JAC-2910131-LIST
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
Kinda like the green http://www.rondomusic.com/shadow627tribalgreen1.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 22, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 22, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
Kinda like the green http://www.rondomusic.com/shadow627tribalgreen1.html

Nice...for that price you could afford to upgrade with a GFS pickup or something as well.
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on January 22, 2014, 05:10:32 PM
The guitars they sell at Rondo are well made but expect to eventually change out all the electronics and hardware. Also the Douglas Spad is basically an ESP Horizon with a different headstock and shitty pickups. They play fucking awesome though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on January 22, 2014, 05:47:58 PM
Quote from: RAGER on January 22, 2014, 04:00:59 PM
SBG3000

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/sbg3000_zps2d922b60.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/sbg3000_zps2d922b60.jpg.html)

Supremo Boner Guitar 3000
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on January 22, 2014, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
I should probably buy my Guild back.

Guess I should start pricing an SGB, because... oh no!
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2014, 06:47:13 PM
Hehehe

I'd never take it from you. I want a beat to shit one, i was scared to play that one.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on January 22, 2014, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 22, 2014, 06:47:13 PM
Hehehe

I'd never take it from you. I want a beat to shit one, i was scared to play that one.

I told you when I bought it you'd get dibs.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on January 22, 2014, 09:43:18 PM
On the string issue...I think my big string is a 72 and I tune to B standard or drop-A.  It's tight; you can totally tremolo-pick on it and it's dead-on.  Yeah, my tremolo-picking sucks, but I'm saying that if YOU did it, it would sound dead-on.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 23, 2014, 12:01:36 AM
Quote from: BrianDamage on January 22, 2014, 05:10:32 PM
The guitars they sell at Rondo are well made but expect to eventually change out all the electronics and hardware.

Ah. Or get something better down the road and keep it as a backup maybe.

Quote from: black aspirin on January 22, 2014, 09:43:18 PM
On the string issue...I think my big string is a 72 and I tune to B standard or drop-A.  It's tight; you can totally tremolo-pick on it and it's dead-on.  Yeah, my tremolo-picking sucks, but I'm saying that if YOU did it, it would sound dead-on.  ;)

My Scroll(25&1/2" scale) has a 56 for the low B and I think it's tight enough for tremolo picking although I don't do anything fast like death metal, just mid-paced at most. It's kind of loose but tight enough for me. Lately I've been trying to tune most of the strings a tad flat so that they are closer to on when I actually fret notes but not so flat that they sound flat open. Slightly tricky.



That Yamaha is beautiful.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 23, 2014, 12:06:11 AM
"tribal green"? Looks more like emerald wizard eye green. All of that cream should be black though.

(http://www.rondomusic.net/photos/electric/shadow627tribalgreen5.jpg)


Turns out these pups are actually like 9.5 lbs  :(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 23, 2014, 12:45:03 AM
Looks like Ocean of Stars will have a very worthy debut this year for SXSW

Still waiting for final confirmation on 2-3 big shows, one of which being an official SXSW showcase, which fell into our laps. And we didn't even have to apply. Hahahaha!

SXFU

Keep y'all posted


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on January 23, 2014, 05:42:28 AM
I like the green one looks like a really nice guitar! I'm looking forward to getting another guitar this year, and using a damn hard case! My poor Aria is so battered :x
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 23, 2014, 10:05:43 AM
Nice work Danny. You a hard workin mofo! 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 23, 2014, 04:44:59 PM
If there is a pedal that likes floppy low strings it's the super/hyper fuzz. Damn. I don't actually need a baritone but still want one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 23, 2014, 05:02:00 PM
Thanks Rager. Feels like the hard work is about to pay off


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 23, 2014, 08:13:59 PM
Congratulations Danny! SXSW is an ideal gig for Ocean of Stars, and it will be easy to get there, too ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 23, 2014, 08:35:53 PM
Thanks Lumpy \m/,

Am already excited to finally have a band to play this music, and having a very tangible sense of momentum is def an added bonus!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 23, 2014, 08:36:32 PM
you should play suxbysuxwest instead..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 24, 2014, 06:19:30 AM
Emerald Douglas LP ordered.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 24, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
At this point ill take an official showcase that cost me $0 in application fees. Official showcases pay $250 and come with a parking pass for the day of.

Yeah.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 24, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
The Dunwich pedal tourbox finally made it's way to me.

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z3/coreyyoung86/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140124_125933692_zpsrobanpjv.jpg)

Seeing as how I hadn't yet begun any new soul crushing DIY home repair projects yet, I'll just be holing up with these babies and making demo clips all weekend.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 24, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
^ nice!


I'm not sure about new Gibsons but $499 isn't much for a US made guitar. All of these look great aside from the cherry.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--GIBSGJ14
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 24, 2014, 04:43:06 PM
27" scale

(http://beat.com.ua/images/vb400.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 24, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
(http://static.musiccenter.com.pl/images/products/314/standard-telecaster-lpb_1_p.jpg)

I need it. It's absolutely unreasonable but I want a tele since I was 13 and had no experience with any kind of guitars (or any other instruments).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 24, 2014, 07:15:57 PM
^ So this would be your first guitar? Can you find a used one for cheaper? I've been seeing more heavy rock and metal bands using Teles lately.




The EQ knobs on my Carvin are extremely sensitive and at higher volumes the low end flubs out very fast even when the bass is turned way down. Eminence Swamp Thangs shouldn't distort that fast, I think it's the way the EQ interacts with the power amp section. I've got the tone dialed in perfectly for somewhat lower but still loud enough to wake up a house full of people volume levels. My ears are singing bad noise worse than usual.

edit: turns out it was made from a combo. I actually think that's pretty awesome. Dude did a damn good job.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on January 24, 2014, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on January 24, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
The Dunwich pedal tourbox finally made it's way to me.

(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z3/coreyyoung86/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140124_125933692_zpsrobanpjv.jpg)

Seeing as how I hadn't yet begun any new soul crushing DIY home repair projects yet, I'll just be holing up with these babies and making demo clips all weekend.

Too awesome....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 25, 2014, 04:28:13 AM
(http://robtorno.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/ao-hpl-sketch.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 25, 2014, 04:39:06 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 24, 2014, 07:15:57 PM
^ So this would be your first guitar? Can you find a used one for cheaper? I've been seeing more heavy rock and metal bands using Teles lately.
No, it was 17 years ago :D I have three guitars (and one diddley bow :D), tele will be 4th.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 25, 2014, 04:45:14 AM
Quote from: Omlet on January 25, 2014, 04:39:06 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 24, 2014, 07:15:57 PM
^ So this would be your first guitar? Can you find a used one for cheaper? I've been seeing more heavy rock and metal bands using Teles lately.
No, it was 17 years ago :D I have three guitars (and one diddley bow :D), tele will be 4th.

Oh I see, read your post wrong. Personally I have no interest in Teles but one of my roommates had one and it sounded pretty damn heavy with whatever pedal his was using. Also, Pallbearer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on January 25, 2014, 05:06:59 AM
Dig that giraffe-neck LTD.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on January 25, 2014, 07:41:16 AM
Quote from: Omlet on January 24, 2014, 07:11:23 PM
(http://static.musiccenter.com.pl/images/products/314/standard-telecaster-lpb_1_p.jpg)

I need it. It's absolutely unreasonable but I want a tele since I was 13 and had no experience with any kind of guitars (or any other instruments).

I have a squier classic vibe 60s tele that I don't use. Got anything to trade?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 25, 2014, 09:38:16 AM
You wanna try different tunings & chord voicings?

This site is pretty damn good.

http://www.jamplay.com/tools/guitar-chords

There's a whole lot you can get for free, so I haven't signed up; just plundering the available info. The list of tunings & chord shapes within those tunings is quite extensive.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 25, 2014, 10:31:03 AM
Quote from: BrianDamage on January 25, 2014, 07:41:16 AM
I have a squier classic vibe 60s tele that I don't use. Got anything to trade?
As I live in eastern Europe any trades may be difficult :D But thanks for your proposition.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 25, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
Finally got sick enough of not having an active project that I posted a craigslist ad.

Now I have 5 potential nutcases and/or bandmates to call back.

Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 25, 2014, 03:05:32 PM
What are you looking for Brian?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 25, 2014, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 25, 2014, 03:05:32 PM
What are you looking for Brian?
apparently an active project.. ;)
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on January 25, 2014, 03:40:26 PM
An sg... les paul... copys or epiphones whatever.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 26, 2014, 01:34:51 PM
woh.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b121/Lucy_me/esp_armor_custom_1.jpg)

(http://www.espguitars.ru/images/customshop/esp_armor_custom_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 26, 2014, 01:46:57 PM
I really hope that is luca turilli's guitar
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 26, 2014, 02:23:25 PM
Wow. Forged by the High Elves during the First Age?


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 26, 2014, 02:39:50 PM
Parts of that thing would fall/break off pretty quick with actual use.

Wood. Wood is much better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 26, 2014, 02:46:05 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 26, 2014, 02:39:50 PM
Parts of that thing would fall/break off pretty quick with actual use.


Only if the player is not a truly worthy Wizard with serious chops.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 26, 2014, 02:53:05 PM
Oh yes.. of course.


Last time I was at Guitar Center they had a Fender 2x15 cab for like $200 or something, I'm going to have to snag it today if it's still there assuming it's not like 150 lbs or whatever. Prices on used cabs there can be unbelievably low. Of course that means they aren't paying people shit for them but it's good when you are buying.

edit: didn't have time to look before work today but I've reconsidered. I'm not buying a 2x15, too awkward and hard to lift alone. Two 1x15s or two 4x10s it is.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 27, 2014, 08:56:59 AM
Man, I have so many responses to the craigslist ad I placed that I couldn't even get back to all of 'em this weekend.

Definitely a few interesting replies, but of course there are gonna be some serious flakes to sift through.

Like this guy:

"I could see us recording or even making Youtube videos, but why would you want to play in bars? That's just showing off."

I had not mentioned videos, but couldn't they be also be seen as kinda "showing off"?


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 27, 2014, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: RacerX on January 27, 2014, 08:56:59 AM
but why would you want to play in bars? That's just showing off.

uhhhh.. Crazy person.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 27, 2014, 10:04:52 AM
I was wondering if you wanted to start a Christian metal band? I'm a screamer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 27, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
I'm sorry; you'll have to get behind the guy with the electric ukulele who is "also an excellent whistler."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 27, 2014, 06:39:19 PM
They had that Fender 'Bassman' 2x15 priced at $175 so I had to buy it. It's now in the basement. It's got wheels but stairs will be tricky/impossible alone. The price was so right though. Nobody wants big shit anymore, I wonder why?  :D

Might put some extra handles on the top and bottom.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 27, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
(http://web.powermate.info/Portals/70389/images/M-1%20Large%20red%20boiler%20on%20stairs.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on January 27, 2014, 07:02:46 PM
Damn, where do I get my own bald Asiatic man to carry my gear around?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 27, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
The Road Crew StoreTM.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 27, 2014, 09:05:16 PM
dude is totally named "odd job" too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on January 28, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
I made a bunch of demo clips over the weekend for the Dunwich pedal tourbox and got them all uploaded last night. One set for guitar, two for bass (fingerstyle and pick), I made some playlists so people can check them all out easily. Detailed notes on the settings for each clip on the individual files.

Guitar demos: https://soundcloud.com/corey-y/sets/dunwich-tourbox-guitar-demos (https://soundcloud.com/corey-y/sets/dunwich-tourbox-guitar-demos)

Bass demos: https://soundcloud.com/corey-y/sets/dunwich-tourbox-bass-demos (https://soundcloud.com/corey-y/sets/dunwich-tourbox-bass-demos)

Magic Pedals Shrine Fuzz (bonus, because Magic did the assembly for Nick on these): https://soundcloud.com/corey-y/sets/magic-pedals-shrine-fuzz-demos (https://soundcloud.com/corey-y/sets/magic-pedals-shrine-fuzz-demos)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 28, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
iPhone shot from Ocean of Stars press photo shoot

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/29/agyty2u6.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 28, 2014, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: RacerX on January 27, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
(http://web.powermate.info/Portals/70389/images/M-1%20Large%20red%20boiler%20on%20stairs.jpg)


haha, there'll be no need for this gentleman, the cab is 8 ohms and the top speaker wasn't working today. Taking it back. Not even sure it would fit in my car with my 2x12s and other gear anyway. Will try to get two identical used 8 ohm 4x10s for cheap for maximum volume with my 350 watt head. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm thinking if I can find one used locally I can probably find one used somewhere else and have it shipped. Want them to be the exact same units so there aren't phase problems or anything.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 28, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
10s sound like dogshit with guitar!
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on January 28, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
Untrue. I have a peavey delta blues with two tens and it sounds killer.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on January 28, 2014, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 28, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
10s sound like dogshit with guitar!

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/MajorWatt/100_1618.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/unkagreg/amps/59Bassman.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 28, 2014, 07:45:39 PM
So, you're still a buncha gays.

(all the cabs with 10s i had sucked.)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on January 28, 2014, 08:35:05 PM
I've never considered a 2x10. Hrm. The fact that SunnJake hates them makes me consider them even more.

Picked up a 2x12 on ebay, which was cheaper than a 2x12 locally. Nuts. Helped a friend wire up his V with new Lace Wino's, sent some riffs around to he and a drummer, and started looking for a practice space. Soon my rockstar dreams will come true and I'll leave this dank, urine-soaked hellhole behind.

Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 28, 2014, 08:40:54 PM
I think 2x10s are super cool and they make my weenie twitch.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on January 28, 2014, 10:40:27 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 28, 2014, 08:40:54 PM
I think 2x10s are super cool and they make my weenie twitch.

Well, now I want one even more.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 29, 2014, 01:23:43 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 28, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
10s sound like dogshit with guitar!


I assume you mean bass 10s right? I'll be down to at least F#, hopefully E and running that side through a SansAmp Bass Driver into a bass head so I want it to sound like a bass.

It's either two 4x10s, two 2x12s, or two 1x15s and my understanding is that one can generally get the most volume out of two 4x10s. I'm hoping my little 350 watt SS Fender Rumble head will be loud enough at 4 ohms into 2 cabs to um hang with my guitar rig. Trying to do this cheap but it's also kind of how much Beast In the Field/Jucifer can I fit in my Vibe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 29, 2014, 05:36:19 AM
Folks seem to like those new Acoustic B410 cabs. GC has some used ones for $100 at stores. Any of you folks have any experience with them?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on January 29, 2014, 07:50:05 AM
Got one of our songs played on national radio last night!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on January 29, 2014, 08:44:12 AM
Jake you're doing it wrong.

Case in point Slomatics use a Matamp 4x10 on guitar and it sounds amazing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 29, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
The tone quest is driving me crazy. I might just have to get a Mesa Studio preamp, hit it with a boost for more distortion, and be done with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 29, 2014, 04:30:43 PM
I have 3 words & a few numerals for this "10" guitar speakers" topic:

Rory Gallager's 2x10" Bassman.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 29, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 29, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
The tone quest is driving me crazy. I might just have to get a Mesa Studio preamp, hit it with a boost for more distortion, and be done with it.

If you know what sound you want, and there's specific gear that will do it, you're usually not saving money by experimenting with less expensive options. "Buy once, cry once" - in other words, if you splurge on quality items that you really want, you won't be replacing it every couple years when it breaks, and you won't be unhappy about compromising.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 30, 2014, 01:32:28 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 29, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 29, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
The tone quest is driving me crazy. I might just have to get a Mesa Studio preamp, hit it with a boost for more distortion, and be done with it.

If you know what sound you want, and there's specific gear that will do it, you're usually not saving money by experimenting with less expensive options. "Buy once, cry once" - in other words, if you splurge on quality items that you really want, you won't be replacing it every couple years when it breaks, and you won't be unhappy about compromising.

Good point but when it comes to amps I'm not necessarily having quality issues with stuff, more tone issues. Part of it is that I don't play enough amps but I'm not often in situations where I can crank someone's amp super loud "to see how it sounds when it breaks up" and what not. And how it sounds through their rig might be different than it would sound through mine. I suspect a Mesa Mark IV or 5 might do me right but that's big bucks to spend on 'suspect'. I'm currently very curious about how the clean channels on the Ultra, Ultra Plus, XXX, and JSX take distortion pedals because they tend to be lower priced used. I know someone who has a XXX, might see if I can borrow it for a few hours. She gets a very heavy tone live running a pedal into it. When budget gear works why not use it? And on that note..



My first impression of the Douglas Shadow 6 string baritone. Looks very nice, love the 'tribal' green design although I don't see anything tribal looking about it. The neck looks straight and the frets seem relatively flat. The neck isn't as thick as I was expecting it to be and that is a good thing. It's probably somewhere between a '50s style Gibson neck and a 'slim taper' or whatever they call the thinner ones. Heavy guitar. I don't like that but knew about it and will deal. The strings have a sticky/gritty feel on the frets when bending. I assume this will go away with time but will look into polishing. I was expecting the electronics to be cheap and two of the knobs are too close to the body where it is carved making them harder to tune than they should be. The bridge pup stopped working after about 5 minutes. I'm not going to send it back because of this but will send an email. The pickups sound okay so far but the standard E tuning makes it harder for me to evaluate them because I'm not used to it anymore. The longer 27" scale feels pretty much the same as a 25.5 to me which is nice, I was for some reason thinking it might feel more like fretting a long scale bass. It does not at all which is good for my not so big hands.

Overall I think it's definitely worth $150. Might take it in as early as tomorrow for a setup in F# standard(68-17) and to have the electronics looked at. I don't have the tools to widen the nut slots and I'm pretty clueless about wiring. If the guts are just pure shit I'll have them replaced.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 30, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
#0000 steel wool for the frets.

Use the string to hog out the nut material.
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on January 30, 2014, 10:11:51 AM
The guts won't be pure shit but they aren't the best stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 30, 2014, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: showdown on January 29, 2014, 07:50:05 AM
Got one of our songs played on national radio last night!

Cool! What's the name of your band?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 30, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
Through my cl ad, I have met a dude around my age who seems to be very compatible with the kind of material I've been creating lately.

May be the start of a new project. Think I'm gonna need a looper, though—what's a good one that won't break the bank? Digitech Jam Man Express? TC Electronics Ditto? Boss?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 30, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 30, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
#0000 steel wool for the frets.

Ah, makes sense. I used to have this super strong magnet that would probably work really well for collecting the debris but I seem to have lost it.

Quote from: SunnO))) on January 30, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
Use the string to hog out the nut material.

I've had some luck with this approach in the past but it seems to take a lot of time and feels like sawing a tree down with a piece of barbed wire. With Nanowebs it might not even be possible but I may have close enough sizes in regular or better yet all steel strings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 30, 2014, 04:11:13 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 30, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 30, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
#0000 steel wool for the frets.

Ah, makes sense. I used to have this super strong magnet that would probably work really well for collecting the debris but I seem to have lost it.


If you find it, don't get it too close to the pickups.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on January 31, 2014, 05:51:37 AM
Masking tape over the pickups.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 31, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
You don't really want the slot to be exact same side as the string, it makes it grip through contact, wants to be slightly oval/parabolic so it always centres itself, but has minimal contact area. http://www.edgeguitarservices.co.uk/rout_serv/nut_geom.htm
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 03:22:32 AM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on January 31, 2014, 09:54:16 AM
You don't really want the slot to be exact same side as the string, it makes it grip through contact, wants to be slightly oval/parabolic so it always centres itself, but has minimal contact area. http://www.edgeguitarservices.co.uk/rout_serv/nut_geom.htm

Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 03:27:54 AM
They don't seem to go for cheap cheap but I think 240 watts of tube amp might offer enough tight headroom for me: I have been told of the Peavey Classic 120/120 power amp. Also very curious about the Rock Master preamp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 01, 2014, 05:09:39 AM
Double the standard wattage will be like 10% louder. I can't fathom a hundo not being enough, and I like to play fucking loud, but to each their own.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 01, 2014, 07:38:17 AM
I'm trying to find bro prices on used pedals, the universe is not cooperating. Everybody thinks their stuff is worth more than it is. IMO, try starting your prices at 50% of retail new and adjust upward from there, if you are not the first owner. I also see people charging 90% of a new pedal, for like-new pedals... why wouldn't I just pay the extra 20 dollars for a warranty and a return policy? And why do people put velcro on pedals, before they are certain they'll be keeping them? That one always surprises me. "I bought this a week ago, but I'm not bonding with it" (but I already put velcro on it, so I hope you like velcro).

Also, what's up with airplane food?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on February 01, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
Whatchoo lookin' for, pedal wise?  I should put a buncha shit in the buy/sell thread but am lacking motivation.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 01, 2014, 05:09:39 AM
Double the standard wattage will be like 10% louder. I can't fathom a hundo not being enough, and I like to play fucking loud, but to each their own.

headroom... ?  So actually even an SVT at 300 watts isn't much louder than a 100 or 120. Just seems like 240 at 50 or 60 lbs and $400 or 500 seems like a good idea. I can tell you that regarding solid state amps I've noticed a serious difference between 150 and 350 watts even for guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 01, 2014, 05:09:39 AM
Double the standard wattage will be like 10% louder. I can't fathom a hundo not being enough, and I like to play fucking loud, but to each their own.

headroom... ?  So actually even an SVT at 300 watts isn't much louder than a 100 or 120. Just seems like 240 at 50 or 60 lbs and $400 or 500 seems like a good idea. I can tell you that regarding solid state amps I've noticed a serious difference between 150 and 350 watts even for guitar.

Just get a Fender Twin, already.  ::)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 01, 2014, 05:09:39 AM
Double the standard wattage will be like 10% louder. I can't fathom a hundo not being enough, and I like to play fucking loud, but to each their own.

headroom... ?  So actually even an SVT at 300 watts isn't much louder than a 100 or 120. Just seems like 240 at 50 or 60 lbs and $400 or 500 seems like a good idea. I can tell you that regarding solid state amps I've noticed a serious difference between 150 and 350 watts even for guitar.

Just get a Fender Twin, already.  ::)

How much? What era? How's the low end at high volumes when palm muting in low tunings with loads of thick distortion?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
For you, a Silverface. Brutally loud: 100 or 135 watts, with only the slightest breakup when dimed. Low end should be tight as fuck.

Keep the master on 10 & don't use the push/pull distortion (if it has it).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
For you, a Silverface. Brutally loud: 100 or 135 watts, with only the slightest breakup when dimed. Low end should be tight as fuck.

Keep the master on 10 & don't use the push/pull distortion (if it has it).

So just any era Silverface 'Twin Reverb' head? How cheap do they come?

The Blackface was the one with the farty low end right?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on February 01, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 03:27:54 AM
They don't seem to go for cheap cheap but I think 240 watts of tube amp might offer enough tight headroom for me: I have been told of the Peavey Classic 120/120 power amp. Also very curious about the Rock Master preamp.

Stereo power amps means needing two cabs or stereo cab. Although fair chance you can turn one side off, that's half power.

Headroom comes from amount/sensitivity of speakers you are running.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
For you, a Silverface. Brutally loud: 100 or 135 watts, with only the slightest breakup when dimed. Low end should be tight as fuck.

Keep the master on 10 & don't use the push/pull distortion (if it has it).

So just any era Silverface 'Twin Reverb' head? How cheap do they come?

The Blackface was the one with the farty low end right?

It would be more accurate to say the Blackface era Twins are generally coveted b/c they break up a bit more. A good part of that is that they're "only" 80 watts. The rest is mostly "Pre-CBS" snobbiness.

EDIT: The Twin doesn't come as a head. The Dual Showman head from the same era is pretty close.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on February 01, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 03:27:54 AM
They don't seem to go for cheap cheap but I think 240 watts of tube amp might offer enough tight headroom for me: I have been told of the Peavey Classic 120/120 power amp. Also very curious about the Rock Master preamp.

Stereo power amps means needing two cabs or stereo cab. Although fair chance you can turn one side off, that's half power.

Headroom comes from amount/sensitivity of speakers you are running.

I'm running two cabs with loud speakers although if I could do it over I probably would have gotten small 4x12s instead of 2x12s despite how fun they are to lug around.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2014, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 01, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
For you, a Silverface. Brutally loud: 100 or 135 watts, with only the slightest breakup when dimed. Low end should be tight as fuck.

Keep the master on 10 & don't use the push/pull distortion (if it has it).

So just any era Silverface 'Twin Reverb' head? How cheap do they come?

The Blackface was the one with the farty low end right?

It would be more accurate to say the Blackface era Twins are generally coveted b/c they break up a bit more. A good part of that is that they're "only" 80 watts. The rest is mostly "Pre-CBS" snobbiness.

Ah. Do you know when Fender made the head versions of the Silverface twins? I mainly see combos while searching on Google and ebay.


edit: from another forum- "They called them Bandmaster/Vibrolux and Showman/Dual Showman"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 02, 2014, 01:59:56 AM
My good friend uses, and has let me use his 1980something Fender Bassman which is 300 tube watts, through a 4x12 and his Ampeg fridge (not at the same time) and while it was retardedly powerful, it aint no double volume or whatever.

Volume is logarithmic, this has been covered ad nausea.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 02, 2014, 04:32:29 AM
Quote from: the diddler on February 01, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
Whatchoo lookin' for, pedal wise?  I should put a buncha shit in the buy/sell thread but am lacking motivation.

Flanger Hoax, Boss Space Echo, Ditto Looper, delays in general (not sure what I want, but Digilog and Electroman seem good), weird stuff. Tiny pedals maybe (mooer etc). A fuzz or distortion that creates an absurd amount of feedback.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 02, 2014, 08:47:13 AM
I went to a releaseshow from a band that I'm good friends with. They've been at it for 5-6 years now, starting slow and playing shows. The last year however their progression has skyrocketed. New bassist, new releases, getting interviewed and played on national radio. All very pro. Last releases they did themselves but they have a record deal now for their upcoming album at the end of the year. Anyway, you get the idea. For the releaseshow, again they did it very pro. Lots of people, great show if you're the headliner and there's 300 people paying to see your band.

But when I was watching their show I couldn't help but think: "This is great but I would never want my band to sound like this." They just sounded too pro imo, I was missing some grittiness. It's not like their music is missing that but the whole sound was just so pro that it put me off.

Anybody else has that before?

Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 02, 2014, 09:26:44 AM
All the time. I prefer to play/see shows at houses over venues because of that factor.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 02, 2014, 09:52:56 AM
Yeah, good sound sucks.  >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 02, 2014, 11:19:50 AM
I often have a long list of complaints about live sound, but never that it's too good or pro. 
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 02, 2014, 12:11:43 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 02, 2014, 09:52:56 AM
Yeah, good sound sucks.  >:(

It does when the music doesn't sound good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 02, 2014, 12:43:09 PM
I've seen that band play at so many places: my old apartment for my birthday, army tents, small metalshows without a stage, etc and imo they just sounded better there. I mean the show was ace, just too pro. I dunno, I usually complain about bad sound but this sounded just too good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 02, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 01, 2014, 07:38:17 AM
I'm trying to find bro prices on used pedals, the universe is not cooperating. Everybody thinks their stuff is worth more than it is. IMO, try starting your prices at 50% of retail new and adjust upward from there, if you are not the first owner. I also see people charging 90% of a new pedal, for like-new pedals... why wouldn't I just pay the extra 20 dollars for a warranty and a return policy? And why do people put velcro on pedals, before they are certain they'll be keeping them? That one always surprises me. "I bought this a week ago, but I'm not bonding with it" (but I already put velcro on it, so I hope you like velcro).

Also, what's up with airplane food?

After X-Mas seems like the worst time to buy. People are trying to recoup money from the Holiday season.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 02, 2014, 04:15:54 PM
^^^ Aha, thanks.

Quote from: MichaelZodiac on February 02, 2014, 12:43:09 PM
I've seen that band play at so many places: my old apartment for my birthday, army tents, small metalshows without a stage, etc and imo they just sounded better there. I mean the show was ace, just too pro. I dunno, I usually complain about bad sound but this sounded just too good.

At smaller shows, big amps usually drown out everything. Maybe now you're hearing a different mix. Maybe the vocals were too loud compared to what you remembered, because they were going through a real PA. Drums too. At a small show the guitars can seem even more massive, because they are crushing the rest of the band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 02, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
Some people have to have pro lights, pro sound, and pro hair.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 03, 2014, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 02, 2014, 01:59:56 AM
My good friend uses, and has let me use his 1980something Fender Bassman which is 300 tube watts, through a 4x12 and his Ampeg fridge (not at the same time) and while it was retardedly powerful, it aint no double volume or whatever.

Volume is logarithmic, this has been covered ad nausea.

Yes of course. I'd be willing to sell my 2x12s to fund 4x12s if they weren't basically worthless because they don't say Marshall or Orange on them. Custom made smaller than normal 4x12s that will fit in my car upright that is, not $100 used from GC 4x12s.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 04, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
Sometimes I forget about this place- http://www.musicgoround.com/search
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on February 04, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 04, 2014, 03:06:39 PM
Sometimes I forget about this place- http://www.musicgoround.com/search

I've bought so much budget gear from MGR online. I've put together entire rigs for people on there. I'm a great poor band personal gear shopper  ;)

They really do have great deals, if you know what you're looking for and/or have some decent rudimentary tech skills.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 05, 2014, 01:58:57 AM
Quote from: Corey Y on February 04, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
I've bought so much budget gear from MGR online. I've put together entire rigs for people on there. I'm a great poor band personal gear shopper  ;)

Dude that is awesome. Between them, GC, eBay, and Craigslist one can find a huge variety of gear. Credit Card Christmas all year round.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on February 07, 2014, 07:37:46 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 30, 2014, 02:09:16 PM
Quote from: showdown on January 29, 2014, 07:50:05 AM
Got one of our songs played on national radio last night!

Cool! What's the name of your band?

That's Norwegian national radio, but still...   ;D

My band's name is Kal-El, we also got a short but favorable review on Heavy Planet: http://www.heavyplanet.net/2014/02/new-band-to-burn-one-to-kal-el.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 07, 2014, 07:42:35 AM
Very cool!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 07, 2014, 02:34:56 PM
So goddam cold & dry that my fingertips are splitting, esp. on my fretting hand.

Quite painful, but I have applied a coat of liquid bandage and am soldiering on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 07, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 07, 2014, 02:34:56 PM
So goddam cold & dry that my fingertips are splitting, esp. on my fretting hand.

Quite painful, but I have applied a coat of liquid bandage and am soldiering on.

I have to use hand lotion after washing my hands or this happens to me every winter. Fun shit huh?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 07, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
My tone search is basically over for my main band now. Got a switch for the Rock Master preamp and the clean channel takes pedals well. Loud and tight when SS powered but with tube pre dimension. This unit is pretty wild. The knobs are extremely sensitive. If it's on it's loud, at 3 it's loud as fuck.. course I'm going into 350 watts. Each channel has an effects loop and there is also a main one, if I want to get into rack gear. Will probably try to find a single rack space power amp for it as I have other plans for my bass amp..

The Douglas Shadow baritone is really impressing me so far down in F#. It sounds half way between a guitar and a bass and you must turn the distortion down on pedals to get usable sounds. The output is tremendous with the low string vibrating so wide and I don't think the pups are all that hot. Might try a thicker string to see how it sounds tightened up. Going to jam with a drummer friend soon and am hoping to get a 2 piece going on the side. I'm slightly concerned about blowing my Swamp Thangs but am hoping that if I was pushing too much low end through them they would fart and I could adjust the tone.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 08, 2014, 06:38:45 PM
I hate super-bright LED's, and pedal knobs with no indicator line (or a line that's hard to see) ESPECIALLY on a "tweakable" pedal.

On another forum (yes, I date other forums) I complained about super-bright LEDs (they hurt my eyes and make the pedal hard to look at/hard to adjust the knobs) another dude said "well they are really useful for playing outdoor shows in the sunlight". HOW MANY OUTDOOR DAYTIME SHOWS WILL YOU PLAY IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFETIME? ONE? TWO? (now compare that to how many times you use that pedal in a dim practice space or dark stage. Super-bright LED's are fucking stupid, and they suck. They serve no purpose at all, it's a stupid fad with a fake "added value" feature that actually makes pedals worse. "This LED isn't bright enough" said no one, ever.

For knobs, is it too much to ask that I could look at my pedal and immediately know that it's currently at "7:00" with a quick glance? Are your fancy knobs and design aesthetics more important than usability? Again, this is a fucking stupid fad driven by pedal builders who think they are adding value to a pedal, but actually making it harder to use, and therefore worse.

/hate
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 08, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Hmmm. Seems easy enough to take something semi-opaque, like masking tape and put it over a bright LED. And a single dab of white out on a knob will give you an instant visual reference. I know, I know. You feel as though you shouldn't have to do that, it should be done already. But welcome to DIY.

And those fixes would probably take 1/4 of the time as it took you to type that out (on each forum). Ha!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on February 08, 2014, 08:33:36 PM
Good on you, Liquidsmoke!   Tone quests are exhausting.  Need to hear that shit in person!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 10, 2014, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: Cursed71 on February 08, 2014, 08:33:36 PM
Good on you, Liquidsmoke!   Tone quests are exhausting.  Need to hear that shit in person!

I think I spoke too soon. Was getting weird volume pulsing at the end of last practice. You can only get so much volume out of 4 speakers even if they are loud ones. I want 4x12s. Dammit.

Really the tone I've got going on is nothing special. High gain and heavy, not too dark, not too icy picky but I like it.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on February 10, 2014, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 10, 2014, 12:04:49 AM

Really the tone I've got going on is nothing special. High gain and heavy, not too dark, not too icy picky but I like it.

In the end that's all you can really ask for out of any amp. The rest is just subtle differences that are pleasing to some ears and not to others.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 10, 2014, 06:12:14 PM
If one could find a couple of those small cheap Marshall 4x12s for a good price and you were planning on swapping out the speakers would they be worthwhile or should they be avoided at all costs?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 10, 2014, 07:20:34 PM
Nah. They're bullshit. Total bullshit.
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Post by: BrianDamage on February 10, 2014, 07:36:46 PM
The best cheap cab I know of is the Fender FM412. About 200 bucks new. The speakers in it are decent but you replace them with wgs green back clones and it becomes as good sounding as a marshall 1960 cab for way less money.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 10, 2014, 09:23:04 PM
I will avoid those mini Marshalls then. $200 is very reasonable for a good new cab, seeing them(FM412) as low as $120 used online. Somehow 4x12s must happen.

Although legendary I was warned by a Bongzilla member years back that Greenbacks are easy to blow when you tune down and play real heavy through them. I've been liking my Swamp Thangs. 150 watts, 102db I think.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on February 10, 2014, 09:47:06 PM
Eminence puts out some killer speakers. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on February 10, 2014, 09:54:56 PM
Love my Eminences - Swamp Thang and a Tonespotter. Made my Twin stop sounding like dogshit.

Would love to try out a Celestion V-Type. I think that's what the Hovercraft dude is super hype on, and most of the online reviews either positive or surprisingly positive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 10, 2014, 10:06:51 PM
Killer deal on a SS power amp here. Man.

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/438679.html

(http://www.fullcompass.com/common/products/original/152752.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 10, 2014, 10:18:51 PM
You might just add only one 4x12 and be satisfied. Keep your 2x12s and use them all. Peavey 412MS can be had for 150 bucks, some of them come with Celestion speakers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 10, 2014, 10:42:16 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 10, 2014, 10:18:51 PM
You might just add only one 4x12 and be satisfied. Keep your 2x12s and use them all.

I've thought of that(4 ohm, the others are 8s and can be chained) however my 2x12s are almost 4x12 size because they are diagonal. It's kind of silly but at least they are only about 65lbs each which is nice plus obviously they cost less to speaker.

Quote from: Lumpy on February 10, 2014, 10:18:51 PM
Peavey 412MS can be had for 150 bucks, some of them come with Celestion speakers.

Good to know. I do have an older carpeted mystery 4x12 slant right now, standard height that is an inch too tall to fit in my car upright. Me and gear is a circus. My ebay Carvin turned out to have old tubes most of which were shot. Getting that back tomorrow with new JJ's so I'll see how it sounds, might be usable at practice/gig volume. I'll figure this all out. We don't have another gig lined up until the end of March.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 11, 2014, 04:39:24 AM
 :D

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2014, 01:57:54 AM
Very helpful info here about compressors, effects loops, cables, preamps, poweramps, EQ, clipping, etc.

http://www.ovnilab.com/faq.shtml
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 12, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
liquid, do you ever stop into full compass' showroom?  are they a decent company? they look pretty competitive, and Madison is way closer than chatsworth etc.
I like what I see so far.

also. WTF is with Pyle amps. those are stupid cheap. there MUST be a reason for the cheapness, or everyone would have them. does anyone know?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 12, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
liquidsmoke, man I hope with all these perplexing questions and combinations of stuff and buying and selling shit you come up with some god like tone dude.  Me personally, it can't get much better than a Les Paul into my cranked Plexi with a good overdrive barely on and 4x12's.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2014, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: jibberish on February 12, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
liquid, do you ever stop into full compass' showroom?  are they a decent company? they look pretty competitive, and Madison is way closer than chatsworth etc.
I like what I see so far.

I've been in the showroom when picking up stuff. They are a great company as far as I know. Locally owned too. I have friends who work there and they like it. Tip- if you call a sales rep you can usually get a better price on stuff and all they want to do is get your order placed and let you get to the rest of your day.

Quote from: RAGER on February 12, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
liquidsmoke, man I hope with all these perplexing questions and combinations of stuff and buying and selling shit you come up with some god like tone dude.  Me personally, it can't get much better than a Les Paul into my cranked Plexi with a good overdrive barely on and 4x12's.

Really for my current band I'm just going for a pretty normal high gain metal tone but I like it very tight which is where things get more tricky. I've figured out that without enough mids I can't hear myself on stage so I keep the scooping to a minimum but I also like to keep the treble under control. Our drummer is quite loud and in tuning to B apparently I need a lot of power and trying to get by without two 4x12s is not easy. Very little of this makes any sense to anyone but I just have to keep moving forward. It doesn't help that my understanding of gear and sound is minimal  ;D  But I'm learning.
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on February 12, 2014, 04:30:18 PM
When tuning that low you need to boost your mids more than you would think to cut through the band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 12, 2014, 04:50:49 PM
I've never had a problem hearing myself even over a loud ass drummer and a bass player with a Mesa 400+
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2014, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on February 12, 2014, 04:30:18 PM
When tuning that low you need to boost your mids more than you would think to cut through the band.

I agree and it can move one's desired sound quite drastically away from what you want it to be unfortunately. Halfway through our set during our last gig I turned off the 'thrash' switch on my pedal and could hear myself much better immediately.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 13, 2014, 01:44:11 AM
Personally, I think the bass player should cover the low frequencies, and guitars should be mid heavy (and nothing should be bassier or louder than the kick drum, probably) but I'm old and crabby. I want each instrument to have it's own sonic space and it's own identity.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 02:23:18 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 13, 2014, 01:44:11 AM
Personally, I think the bass player should cover the low frequencies, and guitars should be mid heavy (and nothing should be bassier or louder than the kick drum, probably) but I'm old and crabby. I want each instrument to have it's own sonic space and it's own identity.

I hear ya but good heavy thick bass tone stands out strong and low against good heavy thick guitar tone. I can not complete in the low end department with the bass player I play with. I have to turn my lows down somewhat at high volume anyway or my rig protests by making weird pulsating sounds. When I'm playing by myself though, usually at lower volumes, the rumbling thunder helps inspire me. Crush skulls.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 02:38:06 AM
The songs sound pretty good on the studio monitors and much worse on my crappy car stereo, somewhat worse on my mediocre home stereo yet 98% of the albums in my collection sound fine on these systems.  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 13, 2014, 03:22:12 AM
You need to test out mixes on different systems. If a mix sounds good on studio monitors but not on a stereo system, do it again. Or you can just say "fuck regular people" and leave as is.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on February 13, 2014, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 02:23:18 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 13, 2014, 01:44:11 AM
Personally, I think the bass player should cover the low frequencies, and guitars should be mid heavy (and nothing should be bassier or louder than the kick drum, probably) but I'm old and crabby. I want each instrument to have it's own sonic space and it's own identity.

I hear ya but good heavy thick bass tone stands out strong and low against good heavy thick guitar tone. I can not complete in the low end department with the bass player I play with. I have to turn my lows down somewhat at high volume anyway or my rig protests by making weird pulsating sounds. When I'm playing by myself though, usually at lower volumes, the rumbling thunder helps inspire me. Crush skulls.

It took me a long time to realize that what sounded good when playing by myself usually caused my tone to get buried in a full volume band setting and what sounded good with the band sounded like shit by itself. Recording is a totally different story though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 13, 2014, 11:48:31 AM
^ Always a good realization.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on February 13, 2014, 03:22:12 AM
You need to test out mixes on different systems. If a mix sounds good on studio monitors but not on a stereo system, do it again. Or you can just say "fuck regular people" and leave as is.

A pair of speakers from a cheap 20 year old stereo system would be more useful to me.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on February 13, 2014, 10:06:22 AM
It took me a long time to realize that what sounded good when playing by myself usually caused my tone to get buried in a full volume band setting and what sounded good with the band sounded like shit by itself. Recording is a totally different story though.

I agree.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on February 13, 2014, 12:54:41 PM
Loads of really interesting points here!

Damn right about listening to mixes on loads of systems, I also think it's good to take breaks, and listen to a mix over weeks, different systems and time really help to bring out those gremlins!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 13, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
hm. I'd never even heard of a Gibson Corvus before...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Gibson_Corvus_II.jpg/396px-Gibson_Corvus_II.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 13, 2014, 02:47:05 PM
Oh my. That's a face only a mother could love. If she was blind. And gave birth to musical instruments.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 13, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
Supposedly, it looks like a crow in flight—Corvus being the genus containing crows, ravens & such.

I don't see it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 03:22:22 PM
I dig it but would be surprised if it isn't neck heavy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 13, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
$600 on the local CL: http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/msg/4331761852.html

It's a bolt-on neck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
The SoundTech PS802 power amp sounds pretty good with the Rock Master although when it gets close to practice level volume the peak indicator light starts flashing, first when palm muting.

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg)

Hopefully the double covers my own frustration as well as the annoyance of those of you who still sometimes read my relentlessly clueless posts about gear.

As is said with motorcycles, there is really no replacement for displacement(not completely true but..). I need 4x12s if I don't want to completely neuter my tone. I do wonder what two 4x10s would sound like though. I want them anyway for my 2 piece idea and they are sometimes really really cheap used, at least for low end units.


edit: kind of wondering how often my Fender Rumble was clipping and if that was doing any damage to my speakers
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 13, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Ok the good news is the sax player for Ocean of Stars will be returning to Austin the same time I get back from a string of shows across the Gulf coast, and will be here for SXSW.

The bad news is he is coming back because his mom passed.

Love, light and good vibes to him and his family.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: deleted account on February 13, 2014, 07:57:07 PM
did this for the first time last nite:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/preist/20140212_194246_zpscmjnev37.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/preist/media/20140212_194246_zpscmjnev37.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 13, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
you dropped your cymbal stand??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 13, 2014, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
I do wonder what two 4x10s would sound like though.


Jesus Christ dude. Stop thinking so hard and try out a fucking 4x12.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2014, 03:45:24 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 13, 2014, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
I do wonder what two 4x10s would sound like though.


Jesus Christ dude. Stop thinking so hard and try out a fucking 4x12.

I have one. It's carpeted and older and the speakers are blank but a faded sticker on the back says it's 300 watts. If that is true the speakers are 75 watters, no idea how efficient they are though. It will not fit in my car upright. I used it with my first 2x12 for awhile because it's also 8 ohms but I'm not sure that was that much louder than the two 2x12s.

I'm sorry to upset you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 14, 2014, 06:28:21 AM
I am god damn furious, make no mistake. There will be blood.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2014, 06:39:15 AM
How's about we have a beard off?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: deleted account on February 14, 2014, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: mortlock on February 13, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
you dropped your cymbal stand??

broke it playing normally, cymbal's fine.  had that stand for like 10 years.  been going with all rides since summer so maybe that had something to do with it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 14, 2014, 01:01:20 PM
Are you playing Metal now?

If so, maybe it had Metal fatigue.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: deleted account on February 14, 2014, 01:26:49 PM
thank you Allan Holdsworth
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 14, 2014, 01:51:10 PM
Nice Holdworth reference!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2014, 04:06:44 PM
After some tone tweaking I think this power amp might be loud enough as I think I've got the balancing act between thunder and neuter figured out  :)

If I'm complaining in a few weeks one of you can come to Madison and I'll let you slap me really hard in the face 10 times.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 14, 2014, 04:13:40 PM
Looking forward to that, now. :-)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
You should be the one. You can do some fret work on my Scroll while you're up here right? Bring your tools.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 14, 2014, 05:01:26 PM
Is it really that bad? Pay the postage. Ill see what I can do for it, ugh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 14, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 14, 2014, 05:01:26 PM
Is it really that bad? Pay the postage. Ill see what I can do for it, ugh.

Some of the frets are uneven which results in buzz and shittiness during leads, shittiness even beyond that which results from my sloppy playing. I'm going to try out a place here I've never been to before, great reviews online, older guys, etc..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: deleted account on February 14, 2014, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: mortlock on February 14, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
i am faced with the very hard task of trying to reason with a very unreasonable person in my band. we appear to have come to a crossroads regarding what material we should put on our next split 7". i want to release some older very strong material while we are grooming our new drummer. we have alot of releases in the pipeline so i figured this would buy us more time to get the new guy fully up to speed, and give us the opportunity to get some of the back catalog properly released.
he is insisting we use new material, and although there is some very strong new material, i feel like the best is yet to come and since we have other material to draw from, why not continue to develop the new stuff and use it for future releases. thats pretty much it, and im trying my hardest to not let this turn into a pissing contest. how do i convince him that everything will get its just due, but we dont have to rush the new stuff. i am willing to let him have his way, as all the material that is good, id love to see on vinyl. whats going to happen is we will do things his way, then 6 months from now when we are getting ready for the next one, ill insist on releasing the older stuff [that we both agreed should get a proper release], and he will look me in the eye as say, we should use the current new stuff because its better than the older new stuff he talked me into agreeing to now. then ill have to punch him in his fucking head..thats what im trying to avoid. how do i know it will go down like this?? because ive jammed with this dude for over 2 decades now. he is a stubborn dude and always argues from a selfserving point of view as opposed to what is good for the band as a whole. his sole reason for wanting to use the new stuff is "ive heard the older stuff a million times". well thats just fucking great..NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER HEARD IT.   help please..

a) have an impartial party (the well-groomed drummer?) decide which song goes on the 7"
b) keep releasing only the newest shit and put out a "lost tapes" type deal when you have a shitload of old shit

I wish I had your problems.  we only have old shit and older shit
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 14, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
I would choose option (b) or maybe you two need to split the sheets after 20 years.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 14, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
Fire him. Problem solved ;)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 15, 2014, 12:45:57 PM
Fuck.  There's a univalve about 2 hours from me for $500.  Shit if it was more local i'd probably jump on it.  that's a good amp to have laying around.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: sanovine on February 15, 2014, 05:41:59 PM
Why wait, punch him in the head now. You'll have the element of surprise too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 15, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
Wait to put all the new stuff on an LP. Release the old stuff now on EP. That way, you can stall for time while you develop new material.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 15, 2014, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: sanovine on February 15, 2014, 05:41:59 PM
Why wait, punch him in the head now. You'll have the element of surprise too.
applauded for best advice.
if I was smart this is exactly what I should do..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 17, 2014, 10:26:18 AM
I would say get it all spelled out and formalized, either via writing it down, handshake or whatever.  So if you agree to put out the newer stuff on this release then there will not be a discussion about what comes next because you will have already agreed that the old stuff is next, no if's, and's or but's.  Surely two mature adults can come to an amicable agreement, especially if you're flexible about the order of things.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 17, 2014, 10:40:28 AM
But if not, gotta figure the punching in the head thing will work.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 17, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
done
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 18, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
RacerX was on the money with the Twin Reverb recommendation. The Dual Showman is almost as tight at high volumes as a high wattage SS amp and I don't have to worry about clipping. I'll get 4x12s in the future if I can afford them but for now I'm good. Good and loud as fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 18, 2014, 06:24:42 PM
Took my amp to a celebrity amp tech here, because it blew something. Recapping everything will cost twice as much as I paid for the amp on Ebay (ninja Ebay score: $170).

I could have just recapped the circuit that blew (for the same price as the amp) but he said all the caps should be replaced (double the price of the amp). So I'm like wow, those caps are pretty expensive and he's all like "yeah, between 11 and 14 dollars". That's when I found out his bench fee is 90/hour. Why so much? ??? He charges 50% more than everybody else for labor.

That's the last time I bring my amp to a celebrity amp tech.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 18, 2014, 06:26:20 PM
Mine was 60/hr.

It's 80 now. Hour minimum. I only did that because i don't want to work on amps anymore... And people still bring me shit sometimes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 18, 2014, 06:40:35 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 18, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
RacerX was on the money with the Twin Reverb recommendation. The Dual Showman is almost as tight at high volumes as a high wattage SS amp and I don't have to worry about clipping. I'll get 4x12s in the future if I can afford them but for now I'm good. Good and loud as fuck.

Cool. I thought that sounded like a possible answer to your quest.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on February 19, 2014, 01:02:40 AM
I'm finna see an ex band member, I'm not sure if I'm going to shank him first or if he will get me in the back before I see him.  Either way it'll be interesting.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 19, 2014, 01:26:16 AM
Quote from: RacerX on February 18, 2014, 06:40:35 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 18, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
RacerX was on the money with the Twin Reverb recommendation. The Dual Showman is almost as tight at high volumes as a high wattage SS amp and I don't have to worry about clipping. I'll get 4x12s in the future if I can afford them but for now I'm good. Good and loud as fuck.

Cool. I thought that sounded like a possible answer to your quest.

You thought right. I am curious as to exactly what part of a tube amp's design determines how much headroom it has.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 19, 2014, 02:06:43 AM
(http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Trustworthiness-of-Guitars-01-634x374.jpg)
(http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Trustworthiness-of-Guitars-02-634x406.jpg)
(http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Trustworthiness-of-Guitars-03-634x357.jpg)


'Saint Stephen' haha
That guitar was supposedly so heavy it bent Jerry's spine.

The Scroll isn't pictured but I'm declaring myself a Repugnant Sorcerer. Creepy Douchebag also works.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 19, 2014, 03:06:08 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 18, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
RacerX was on the money with the Twin Reverb recommendation. The Dual Showman is almost as tight at high volumes as a high wattage SS amp and I don't have to worry about clipping. I'll get 4x12s in the future if I can afford them but for now I'm good. Good and loud as fuck.

I suggested a Twin Reverb over a year ago...

http://stonerrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=7457.msg224167;topicseen#msg224167 (http://stonerrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=7457.msg224167;topicseen#msg224167)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 19, 2014, 04:36:52 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 19, 2014, 03:06:08 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 18, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
RacerX was on the money with the Twin Reverb recommendation. The Dual Showman is almost as tight at high volumes as a high wattage SS amp and I don't have to worry about clipping. I'll get 4x12s in the future if I can afford them but for now I'm good. Good and loud as fuck.

I suggested a Twin Reverb over a year ago...

http://stonerrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=7457.msg224167;topicseen#msg224167 (http://stonerrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=7457.msg224167;topicseen#msg224167)

Oh yeah that thread.. haha. Thank you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 19, 2014, 11:09:45 AM
Does that mean we've come full circle twice now? Oh my.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 19, 2014, 11:35:00 AM
Evidently.

I did not even remember that Lumpy had already suggested a Twin almost 2 years ago.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 19, 2014, 12:19:25 PM
Let me be the first to recommend the new and improved 2016 model Fender Twin Reverb when we circle back in another couple of years.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 19, 2014, 01:15:19 PM
"full circle"- me seeing a Fender at a local shop for a good price knowing that I can return it if I don't like it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 19, 2014, 01:22:46 PM
Not that part. The exhaustive struggle to arrive at that mystery tone. That part. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 19, 2014, 02:16:07 PM
heh.

Imma call my next band "The Mystery Tones."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on February 19, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
I hope your first release is called Guitar Through a Bass Amp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 19, 2014, 02:53:27 PM
Nope.

That might have worked for my last band, "The Shit Tones," though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 19, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: Jake on February 19, 2014, 01:22:46 PM
Not that part. The exhaustive struggle to arrive at that mystery tone. That part. 

Who knows, in the future I may move towards a modeling amp into PA speakers. Absolute clarity.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on February 19, 2014, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 19, 2014, 02:16:07 PM
heh.

Imma call my next band "The Mystery Tones."

The Tone Rangers
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 19, 2014, 06:22:13 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 19, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: Jake on February 19, 2014, 01:22:46 PM
Not that part. The exhaustive struggle to arrive at that mystery tone. That part. 

Who knows, in the future I may move towards a modeling amp into PA speakers. Absolute clarity.

Typically, nothing is louder or cleaner than the PA speakers (unless House Party, crummy club etc). And you don't have to carry anything!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 19, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
Or you could get a Bose L1...

(http://www.mandoweb.com/Images/Instruments/MainThumbs/29178.jpg)

What about a whole row of them?  :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 19, 2014, 06:29:54 PM
Cargo pants, a goatee, and a ponytail?  Holy trifecta!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 20, 2014, 12:34:14 AM
I wore cargo pants to work sometimes like 15 years ago and often had a goatee and hair long enough to put in a ponytail. I even had a Squire Strat for a few years. Alright I'm going to make this happen, who'll give me a shit ton of money for a Bose backline?

I'm a bit confused about what type of music I should play though, like smooth jazz meets lawyer blues?

What I'm sad about is not being able to have sideburns.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 20, 2014, 12:46:22 AM
you can always tape some sideburns on..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 20, 2014, 12:58:10 AM
It would subtract from the supreme rocking though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 20, 2014, 01:49:23 AM
not if you used really good tape..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 20, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
But I'd look less like Mr. Strat Bose
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 20, 2014, 05:31:32 AM
The Highlanders: There Can Be Only (T)One
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 20, 2014, 09:00:07 AM
This is pretty interesting

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on February 20, 2014, 07:17:08 PM
Quote from: Jake on February 19, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
I hope your first release is called Guitar Through a Bass Amp.

I know I'm loving the sound of my Peavey t25 through a tube screamer into a peavey MKIII bass head!  get just the right combo and it can really sing!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 21, 2014, 02:42:58 AM
Someone put a fan in that Dual Showman, any reason not to use it after the amp/tubes are warmed up?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on February 21, 2014, 02:56:55 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 21, 2014, 02:42:58 AM
Someone put a fan in that Dual Showman, any reason not to use it after the amp/tubes are warmed up?

Use the fan if it isn't too loud, your tubes and caps will thank you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 21, 2014, 03:18:57 AM
Quote from: showdown on February 21, 2014, 02:56:55 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 21, 2014, 02:42:58 AM
Someone put a fan in that Dual Showman, any reason not to use it after the amp/tubes are warmed up?

Use the fan if it isn't too loud, your tubes and caps will thank you.

That's what I'm hoping. It's only audible at super low volumes. Will use always then.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 21, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
a new Mackie 4-buss 1604vlz is $899 at every big box place online that I checked

my GC has 5 of these used for $299 each.   this is a stellar deal for a 4-buss Mackie. may be worth having one shipped if anyone needs one.

there is one on this page:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Used-Gear.gc?extup=North-Olmsted,Page-2&src=&storenumber=611&storename=north-olmsted&localstoresearch=true
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 21, 2014, 05:44:19 PM
there are 3 on the local CL here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 22, 2014, 01:03:51 AM
Band practice feels foggy on no coffee.

Also, dig.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/turquoisemoleeater/More%20Guitars/BornCustomPistachio-1_zpsb660778b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 22, 2014, 04:07:34 AM
That is nummers. Godin?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 22, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
Bose towers. Bald as fuck. White T. Black slacks. Parker Fly.

Sleep lost over not living up to your standards? Pretty fucking slim I bet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 22, 2014, 11:35:03 PM
ive been spending way too much looking at shit on discogs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on February 23, 2014, 01:19:59 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 22, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
Bose towers. Bald as fuck. White T. Black slacks. Parker Fly.

Sleep lost over not living up to your standards? Pretty fucking slim I bet.

I have absolute respect for what he does.  I just can't listen to it because I hate it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 23, 2014, 03:49:59 AM
That's cool. I was just watching it and got a laugh out of how many of these stonerrock.com fashion rules he was breaking at once.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 23, 2014, 08:37:51 PM
Pron

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/P1010045_zps8645b9a3.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/P1010045_zps8645b9a3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on February 23, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 23, 2014, 08:37:51 PM
Pron

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/P1010045_zps8645b9a3.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/P1010045_zps8645b9a3.jpg.html)


If you pushed that Orange out of the way I'd take this as a snapshot from the '70s. Right down to the color palette, the rug, the TV, the furniture, the bikes, the drums, the reel to reel... Seriously did someone photoshop that Tiny Terror combo into a 40 year old photo?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on February 23, 2014, 10:08:36 PM
I like the basement floor painted enamel gray.  Win.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on February 24, 2014, 04:49:19 AM
Haha fallen is right!! ;)

That's some good pr0n tho....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on February 24, 2014, 01:18:56 PM
Got the review of my droney doomy stuff! :D

(it's in Polish and Google translate fucks it up, but here ya go if you want to read it: LINK (http://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoweidzieodmorza.com%2F4828-perfect-beauty-obsidian&act=url))
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 24, 2014, 01:23:29 PM
Give me your Supro!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on February 24, 2014, 05:00:37 PM
Woooo awesome omlet!! It translates pretty well I thought it was gonna be a bit mental like Russian translation tends to be!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 24, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
that was a nice review they made for you.

rager, who's basement is that? that looks like every last one of my uncle and aunt's basements from when I was little. 

I totally get the same vibe from that basement.
the tv set, the hula hoop for chrissakes. those bikes.  that nasty furniture, the weird 1979 peavey meter bridge or wtf back there and a reel-to-reel it looks like.  drum carpets don't count. serious time capsule there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 24, 2014, 10:35:45 PM
Holy two shows on the same night Batman! I hope they can get this worked out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 25, 2014, 10:38:27 AM
My first nice guitar I bought was a USA Gibson Explorer when I was about 11 years old...was (still am) a big Hetfield fan.  It's been through a few swaps...EMGs, back to originals, and I cut a diamond plate aluminum pickguard for it.  I'm older now, and less into metal and basically never play it.  I thought it would be cool to give it a make-over and make it more suitable to my current tastes, which is more bluesy doom stuff like Graveyard.  I pretty much only enjoy single coils these days so I thought getting some single coils in humbucker housings would be cool and found the Gibson P94's, which are basically P90's.  Instead of black/chrome/diamond plate I want to do black/gold/tortoise shell.  I FINALLY found a set of the black/gold P94s.  It took about 6 months.

(http://www.themusiczoo.com/PDGImages/Gibson_IMP4R-BG_1864_a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on February 25, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
TV looks also quite old, but I'm not sure if old enough :D Post more pics of the tv so we can verify if it fits to that room :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 25, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
Just found an all original (aside from a cap job), super clean 1965 blackface Twin Reverb for $1200.  Includes original footswitch and amp cover.  I feel like I should buy this even if I just end up selling it the next day.  Who knows, maybe I'll fall in love?  The question:  is the price and quality such that this is an investment-worthy piece?

(http://images.craigslist.org/00f0f_4J5k7BHe3Xs_600x450.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on February 25, 2014, 02:43:33 PM
Wow that Twin looks way too clean.

Haven't seen many 65 era Fenders that didn't have their corners all rusted although things tend to look more pristine in photos than they do in person.

In my opinion a Twin is a great platform but not anything super amazing on it's own. Perfect for running a ton of pedals into.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 25, 2014, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on February 25, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
Just found an all original (aside from a cap job), super clean 1965 blackface Twin Reverb for $1200.  Includes original footswitch and amp cover.  I feel like I should buy this even if I just end up selling it the next day.  Who knows, maybe I'll fall in love?  The question:  is the price and quality such that this is an investment-worthy piece?

(http://images.craigslist.org/00f0f_4J5k7BHe3Xs_600x450.jpg)

I don't see the actual ad, but just a heads up: 'round these parts there have been a bunch of ads for ridiculously cheap gear using gmail "reply to" addies, which result in spam marketing once contacted. Usually there are photos but no city or area of town listed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 25, 2014, 03:02:58 PM
It DOES seem too good to be true.  And I didn't notice it before, but there's not a part of town listed.  We'll see...  Hopefully I don't get murdered if I go to look at it.  If I stop posting soon, you'll know what happened.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 25, 2014, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: Omlet on February 25, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
TV looks also quite old, but I'm not sure if old enough :D Post more pics of the tv so we can verify if it fits to that room :D

:D ;D  That's just some pron.  It's one of my buddy's amps in his basement.  He's def a 70's throwback through and through.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 26, 2014, 01:36:29 PM
I've been working in alternate (esp. open) tunings quite a bit. I have finally realized that if I tune to an open minor chord, all I have to do is add one finger to unflat the 5th and have a major chord.

Up until I made this discovery, I had been going through a lot of unnecessary gymnastics to form minor chords in open major tunings. This could be a huge development for me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on February 26, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
I noticed this on lap steel too. If you tune major it's great for blues licks but hard to slant bar to get any minor thirds. On a minor tuning you can pull the third behind the bar to make a major and get some pedal steel like sounds.

I used to play a bunch of alternate tunings and it sounded great but in a band setting I was tuning a LOT between songs which was a pain.

I've been playing some acoustic stuff with a friend and have been getting into using a capo to change things up. Might be cool to experiment with adding a capo or partial capo to some open tunings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 26, 2014, 04:48:32 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 26, 2014, 01:36:29 PM
I've been working in alternate (esp. open) tunings quite a bit. I have finally realized that if I tune to an open minor chord, all I have to do is add one finger to unflat the 5th and have a major chord.

Up until I made this discovery, I had been going through a lot of unnecessary gymnastics to form minor chords in open major tunings. This could be a huge development for me.

what you said is perfectly clear.   to avoid anyone else's confusion, i just want to say, you meant to say "unflat the 3rd" to get the major. carry on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 26, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
Taking up bass duties in a band that plays in drop C when I get home. I have a 5 string, gonna set the 4th to their low C. It's kinda fun figuring out what to do with the register below, I think I'll tune it A, which would be like std tuning relative to the 3rd string, or F which would be totally oddball but I think ultimately quite useful and interesting.

F
C
G
C
A

or

F
C
G
C
F

They both seem to have their potential. The band uses a load of magic box 0-3-5 stuff so I'm trying to find a tuning that takes that into account. Tuning std relative to the C gets redundant, GCGCF but doubling the high F that I'd hardly ever use makes more sense to me.

Daydreaming.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 26, 2014, 08:53:24 PM
That's what i did with my 7 banger, C F Bb Eb G C c slightly flat
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 27, 2014, 02:14:02 AM
Looks like Neurosis tuning from C std to me, unless I misread.

My response elsewhere to someone telling a group of us you cannot get good tone without high dollar gear, and then dropping some over the top silly rig rundown on us:

"I play a selection of 1972 Gibson Les Paul Customs, all with maple fretboards for better articulation. I installed a middle pickup and 2 piezos for a total of 5 pickups, each of which has its own output that runs to a separate amp for true 5.1 surround sound. Bridge goes to the 1980 JCM 800 2204 – vertical inputs, not that horizontal bullshit – that runs two matched quads of pre-rola Celestion Greenbacks. Neck goes to an Ampeg V4 running a fridge, specifically chosen to compliment the smooth bass of that pickup. Middle pickup (which I never use, no one ever uses the middle pickup) goes to a 1970 Orange OR120 and matching 4x12 I bought of some stoner dude for 6 kilos of weed, currently running hand selected and matched tubes from Uzbekistan, a little known behemoth in the tubes industry who's quality cannot be matched to reproduce the low-mids of this particular amp. The piezos run through a fuck off huge assortment of rack gear I keep off stage because it doesn't look cool, and goes straight into the house PA, or a Bose tower I bring along just in case the house PA is not up to my ridiculous standards. I hide the Bose though, so no one thinks I'm some tool on stage with anything but the ultimate in vintage gear.
All my cabinets have been internally upgraded with an extra 1/8" sheet of solid oak, because that 1" birch plywood crap just can't handle my godlike tone without some help.

My newest addition to the family is an overdrive pedal with SI/GE diode switching capabilities so I can avoid unwanted high end fizz, depending on the natural acoustics of the particular room I am in on any given night.

All this gear shows that I am SERIOUS when I get up there and knock 'em dead with our screaming hot rendition of Mustang Sally. Check us out on the bar circuit, maybe you've heard of us...The Blues Lawyer Cover Band Quintet Trio Dad Band Project Theory."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 27, 2014, 06:04:04 AM
^  :D




These guys should be able to handle/split line level signals okay right?
(http://proguitarshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/R/a/Radial_4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 27, 2014, 08:24:52 AM
Don't see why not, the Morely I used to use worked great too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 27, 2014, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: RacerX on February 25, 2014, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on February 25, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
Just found an all original (aside from a cap job), super clean 1965 blackface Twin Reverb for $1200.  Includes original footswitch and amp cover.  I feel like I should buy this even if I just end up selling it the next day.  Who knows, maybe I'll fall in love?  The question:  is the price and quality such that this is an investment-worthy piece?

(http://images.craigslist.org/00f0f_4J5k7BHe3Xs_600x450.jpg)

I don't see the actual ad, but just a heads up: 'round these parts there have been a bunch of ads for ridiculously cheap gear using gmail "reply to" addies, which result in spam marketing once contacted. Usually there are photos but no city or area of town listed.

Since this scam seems to be going on all over, here's one for example:

http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/msg/4344650338.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 27, 2014, 09:44:02 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 27, 2014, 06:04:04 AM
^  :D




These guys should be able to handle/split line level signals okay right?
(http://proguitarshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/R/a/Radial_4.jpg)

I use one of these. Great little unit.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 27, 2014, 11:26:04 AM
"doom lawyers"

I hope this catches on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on February 27, 2014, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 27, 2014, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: RacerX on February 25, 2014, 02:46:23 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on February 25, 2014, 02:03:26 PM
Just found an all original (aside from a cap job), super clean 1965 blackface Twin Reverb for $1200.  Includes original footswitch and amp cover.  I feel like I should buy this even if I just end up selling it the next day.  Who knows, maybe I'll fall in love?  The question:  is the price and quality such that this is an investment-worthy piece?

(http://images.craigslist.org/00f0f_4J5k7BHe3Xs_600x450.jpg)

I don't see the actual ad, but just a heads up: 'round these parts there have been a bunch of ads for ridiculously cheap gear using gmail "reply to" addies, which result in spam marketing once contacted. Usually there are photos but no city or area of town listed.

Since this scam seems to be going on all over, here's one for example:

http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/msg/4344650338.html

Update:  it was a scam.  "She" started saying she just moved to the UK and would send me an invoice through eBay so that I'd have buyer protection and all this stuff, but I wouldn't be able to see it before hand and she'd ship it with a return policy...blah blah.  I assume they send a link that LOOKS just like eBay but then you enter in all your account info...etc.  Thanks for the warnings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 27, 2014, 04:55:22 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 27, 2014, 09:44:02 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 27, 2014, 06:04:04 AM
^  :D




These guys should be able to handle/split line level signals okay right?
(http://proguitarshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/R/a/Radial_4.jpg)

I use one of these. Great little unit.

I have one and the led one. Going to try it between my preamp and power amp. Future plans idea.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on February 27, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
Whoa, that's a new idea to me. A/B a master/slave amp set up. Hit the switch for dicksmashing volume.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 28, 2014, 12:54:30 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 27, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
Whoa, that's a new idea to me. A/B a master/slave amp set up. Hit the switch for dicksmashing volume.

That could work nicely although I'm just thinking about maybe needing to split the preamp signal to run both channels on my poweramp to use 2 cabs down the road for a new project.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 28, 2014, 01:03:44 AM
First Ocean of Stars rehearsal in a month +, the first of three prior to our sxsw debut.

Sounded fucking awesome. I mean, just wow. Everything sounded good. Even the rough spots sounded good

Haven't been this stoked about a project in a long time \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 28, 2014, 08:50:51 AM
Nice, Danny G!

I've been working on a duo act with this dude I hooked up with a month or so back. I'm mostly playing amplified acoustic guitars and he's on an old Strat with a smorgasbord of effects. It's mostly instrumental stuff, but I'm also singing a few originals I wrote. We'll do some coffee shop gigs to hone it a bit, then hopefully start scoring some opening slots. Hopefully we'll have some recordings soon.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 28, 2014, 02:03:04 PM
Hey liquidsmoke, check this out:

http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/msd/4323708203.html

8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 02:46:24 PM
I have one and yes it does have a black face. ::)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 28, 2014, 03:48:13 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 02:46:24 PM
I have one and yes it does have a black face. ::)

I couldn't care less about what you have or about anything else regarding you or your life.

But hey, thanks!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 04:05:15 PM
Then don't address me you miserable fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 28, 2014, 04:15:45 PM
I wasn't. I was addressing liquidsmoke, asshole.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 04:21:35 PM
LastwordLung.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 28, 2014, 04:37:37 PM
Super Twin has 180 watts? ??? Impossibru.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 04:38:47 PM
6 6l6's
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 28, 2014, 04:39:15 PM
 :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
I turned mine into a head.

At first it was all like...
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_3754.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_3754.jpg.html)

An now it's all like..
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG00174-20100511-2106-1.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG00174-20100511-2106-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 28, 2014, 05:24:26 PM
tasty  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 28, 2014, 05:24:39 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
I turned mine into a head.

At first it was all like...
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_3754.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_3754.jpg.html)

An now it's all like..
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG00174-20100511-2106-1.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG00174-20100511-2106-1.jpg.html)

^lastwordhipsterlung.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 28, 2014, 09:43:49 PM
Can't we all just get along?


Quote from: RacerX on February 28, 2014, 02:03:04 PM
Hey liquidsmoke, check this out:

http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/msd/4323708203.html

8)

Very nice.

Quote from: RAGER on February 28, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
I turned mine into a head.

At first it was all like...
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_3754.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_3754.jpg.html)

An now it's all like..
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG00174-20100511-2106-1.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG00174-20100511-2106-1.jpg.html)

Even nicer! Are these mega headroom or more like the earlier design but with more power?

I still can hardly believe how loud my early '90s 100 watt head is. I think it would probably work pretty well even for a lot of bass players.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 01, 2014, 05:55:50 AM
Quite surprised I haven't seen this here yet. Shocking, but hey man, it's not like he needs the money. Gotta believe they are good. I did like the set that was in my Mockingbird when I bought it used, but it wasn't love.



Fuck you!

Geezer Butler signature EMGs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 01, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
Gotta remove the S in your HTTP (forum adds it for some reason)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 02, 2014, 10:04:11 AM
Yeah I did. Along with having to remove the playlist attachment, and yet it still sucked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on March 02, 2014, 01:28:16 PM
I fixed it. In the future just post the raw code, not the whole URL (Mutant, you can go look now and see the repair I did if you desire)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 03, 2014, 09:45:41 PM
We now have almost enough material for 2 half hour sets and for the next month will be mostly rehearsing our already planned set for the next gig. This might be a beginner level idea but I'm liking it a lot so far. I'm often a nervous wreck live but this next one is bound to feel more relaxed because we will be more on top of the material and song order than normal. The only catch is that we'll be playing in a warehouse with no heat so hopefully it won't be like 40 degrees in there. With some luck spring will be raging.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 04, 2014, 01:54:18 PM
We played a two day fest on Sunday, got absolutely hammered the night before because of drinking all day and with Orange Goblin headlining we all went pretty wild, shots and all! so on our day I was sick as hell, about an hour before our set one of the organisers asked how we'd like our lighting we said very dark/red (usual) every band all day had that exact lighting anyway so we said that was spot on, then when it came to our set and we'd finished setting up we stood there onstage waiting for them to turn these extremely bright blue/pink/white lights off, they lit up the entire place including the crowd (we must have looked like total planks standing there doing nothing for ages waiting) until eventually the sound guy says through the PA, you can start now, we said we were waiting for the lights and he replied, iv got no control over these this is all you've got !! so everyone had dark mood enhancing lights and we played in an uncomfortably bright room for reasons I still do not know, felt sooooo self conscious, I needed all the help I could get on such a hangover, we just got our heads down and plowed through and I tried my best to stay in the zone but even with my eyes closed it was blindingly bright, I'm disappointed as it threw me off hard as I tried, after us every band was all dark again....other than that it was an awesome weekend, Orange Goblin have always been one of my top live bands, they cause a total riot every time!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 04, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
I used to hang out up in the sound booth at this club once in a while and get stoned with the chick that ran the board.  if the re was a band she didn't like she say "watch this" and then she'd turn on this bright blue and green light on the drummer cook him out.  it was kinda funny but she was kind of a bitch too.  I hope that wasn't the case with you guys Jem.  That's a dick move.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 04, 2014, 03:25:45 PM
Yeah that's a mean move! not very professional! I think it was just dumbass crossed wires, we've been meaning to buy a couple of red floor lights of our own so that was a good reminder to get them soon!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 04, 2014, 04:27:35 PM
Quote from: RAGER on March 04, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
I used to hang out up in the sound booth at this club once in a while and get stoned with the chick that ran the board.  if the re was a band she didn't like she say "watch this" and then she'd turn on this bright blue and green light on the drummer cook him out.  it was kinda funny but she was kind of a bitch too.  I hope that wasn't the case with you guys Jem.  That's a dick move.

How did the bands react?

This is the type of idiot you fling cum on Silence of the Lambs style. Cook on some cum bitch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on March 04, 2014, 07:10:32 PM
I used to ask for bright lights...never bothered me.....but I'm sure they were doing that to piss you off.  Fuck them just play louder and detune a few random strings and rock on until his ears are bleeding LOL
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 04, 2014, 11:52:28 PM
they were trying to cook the alcohol out of your bodies. they were just trying to help with the hangover.. hahha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 05, 2014, 12:50:06 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on March 04, 2014, 01:54:18 PM
We played a two day fest on Sunday, got absolutely hammered the night before because of drinking all day and with Orange Goblin headlining we all went pretty wild, shots and all! so on our day I was sick as hell, about an hour before our set one of the organisers asked how we'd like our lighting we said very dark/red (usual) every band all day had that exact lighting anyway so we said that was spot on, then when it came to our set and we'd finished setting up we stood there onstage waiting for them to turn these extremely bright blue/pink/white lights off, they lit up the entire place including the crowd (we must have looked like total planks standing there doing nothing for ages waiting) until eventually the sound guy says through the PA, you can start now, we said we were waiting for the lights and he replied, iv got no control over these this is all you've got !! so everyone had dark mood enhancing lights and we played in an uncomfortably bright room for reasons I still do not know, felt sooooo self conscious, I needed all the help I could get on such a hangover, we just got our heads down and plowed through and I tried my best to stay in the zone but even with my eyes closed it was blindingly bright, I'm disappointed as it threw me off hard as I tried, after us every band was all dark again....other than that it was an awesome weekend, Orange Goblin have always been one of my top live bands, they cause a total riot every time!

This sounds fishy and I can imagine that it sucked all the worse hungover. What was the name of the fest?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 05, 2014, 11:20:12 AM
FOAD (Fuck off and die) FEST

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/CircusFreak000/Foadfest3_zps7884c326.jpg)

It was a beast of a fest, Desecration and Winterfylleth were amazing, Satanic Dystopia and Basement Torture Killings are excellent too check em out if you like your brutal stuff!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 05, 2014, 01:01:07 PM
Whoa. How was Gurt? As a dude with a beard with a cat, I especially love this video.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 06, 2014, 03:40:40 AM
hehe ;) I didn't see em! not a fan im afraid...




Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 09, 2014, 04:10:00 PM
Sold a pair of used Eminence Governors for $127 on ebay, not bad.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 10, 2014, 12:54:04 AM
Had a bass player over today to play drums with. He wa a novice so I was quite bored right away. Played with his fingers and just didn't dig in enough to cut through.

On another note, earlier I went to my local synth shop and had they had a monotribe in stock I would have bought one. He tried to sell me on the volca beats but I like the monotribe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 10, 2014, 01:06:05 AM
Bass amp wasn't loud enough? Some people think you should play the bass strings somewhat lightly, and let the amp do the work getting volume. Because (for example) when the strings are vibrating wildly from playing hard, that's not as pure of a tone as a medium-energy plucked bass string. Etc.

Not trying to argue, I didn't witness his wimpy non-rocking attack. Just presenting an alternative possibility.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 10, 2014, 01:13:00 AM
Super twin into my 8x10. Plenty loud enough. He had some pedal board all in one thing like a Whammy thing muddying up the works. Meh. Nice guy I've known for a long time but not a prospect by any means.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 10, 2014, 01:15:49 AM
I should add too that I'm not even a real drummer so I probably don't hit as hard as a good drummer so I def should have been able to hear him if he dug in a bit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 11, 2014, 12:06:21 PM
Final Ocean of Stars rehearsal for SXSW. All systems are go to rock some ass.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/12/usy2e4eq.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/12/ratyquhu.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/12/vyny9epu.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/12/u7umapys.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 11, 2014, 12:07:24 PM
I was listening to that earlier on bandcamp, very fun/cool stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 11, 2014, 06:47:59 PM
Thanks man \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 12, 2014, 10:37:30 PM
shit weather is conducive to taking care of lots of indoor stuff.   getting back to work finishing the music/recording room.  all that is left is the "Whole Room Wire Dressing" issues.    AC/signal cables/speaker wires/lighting.   I want to stealth the wires out of sight so it looks better

I may actually have to run another 20amp circuit to spread all this shit out onto 2 circuits now that I am getting into some big amps, and will be getting more
(now i'm up to 750w/ch at 8 ohms, and it is going up to 1000w/ch = lots of amps draw)

I am matching amps to speakers. underpowering speakers when trying to play them loud is how to destroy speakers, so I need to upgrade some 100w/ch to 200-300w/ch for that 3-4db of extra headroom

the spaghetti factor is off the hook if I don't wrangle it into shape.

i'm stoked. this will look like a little ghetto version of those awesome studios in mix magazine. just have to keep pushing and accept as little compromise as I can

this is all still jake's fault with his "too much fun" basement.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 12, 2014, 10:42:33 PM
I am going to name my "Black Math Metal" band  "Autistic Einstein"

actually, for all I know, I MAY be THEE autistic Einstein haha

....shuddddup......
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 13, 2014, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: jibberish on March 12, 2014, 10:37:30 PMunderpowering speakers when trying to play them loud is how to destroy speakers, so I need to upgrade some 100w/ch to 200-300w/ch for that 3-4db of extra headroom

You probably don't have to worry about that, IMO (pushing underpowered amps through into your speakers). Much more risky to over-power your speakers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 13, 2014, 01:09:45 AM
I had a kitchen accident and cut my fingernail, not too bad but I'm nervous it will snag on something and get worse. I have clear nail polish, maybe I will slap some on there to try to seal it up. I don't know if that will work. Don't have crazy glue, that stuff dries up so fast and it doesn't last if it's unused.

/big baby
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 13, 2014, 01:34:32 AM
if its a playing finger, its legit. the smallest thing can fuck you up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on March 13, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
Lumpy this happened to me recently, nail varnish probably won't work just cut the nail as short as it will go then file it smooth, hopefully with the tear gone or atleast almost gone, then file it smooth every day until it grows out!

/blog, feeling a bit up in the air while we move onto entirely new sets and our new drummer beds in, it's a strange feeling of uncertainty and I miss feeling solid, it's as if the band is a beast I follow through forests, sometimes I'm only catching a glimpse of it, sometimes I'm close and at times iv ridden on it's back, these last few weeks it's been far ahead, like maybe I can only imagine it, been working hard on catching up again, we've booked to record a second album in November which is exciting, I'll have it fully harnessed by then whatever it has become...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 13, 2014, 04:05:59 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 13, 2014, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: jibberish on March 12, 2014, 10:37:30 PMunderpowering speakers when trying to play them loud is how to destroy speakers, so I need to upgrade some 100w/ch to 200-300w/ch for that 3-4db of extra headroom

You probably don't have to worry about that, IMO (pushing underpowered amps through into your speakers). Much more risky to over-power your speakers.

I really should say "have excessive headroom"  rather than  "overpowering with amps".
I agree, you cant put more power than the speaker is rated for or it melts after a bit.

my problem is I have several sets of speakers that just get going with a 100w/ch amp at about the volume I want, but it is getting raggedy and I really just need tight headroom and a few more tight db's. and by getting going, I am talking about maybe 10watts continuous or thereabouts which is getting pretty darn loud in a room

the real problem is that power increase wrt volume increase isn't linear. a barely audible increase in volume(ie 3dB) takes double power. so the difference between 100watts and 200 watts becomes less one of volume , but rather one of bigger headroom at essentially the same volume.

ok, if I am jamming at 10watts continuous and if I hit a passage that doubles in volume from the base continuous (+10dB ), I would need a 100watt burst of power to play that peak cleanly.  this then puts these 100w/ch amps at about the end of their power supplies. what if I hit a 13dB peak? I need 200 watts clean.
this probably isn't going to happen more than once or twice in a row as the power supply reserve gets sucked dry
anything over about 3db above rated power goes to garbage so a 16db peak would need 400 watts and that will be garbage

I seriously would be happy with all 300w/ch amps.  run them like really beefy 100watters regarding the actual volume. and they can hit a 500watt spike strongly.
the sound is so much bigger when the amps are playing really cleanly. this is what I really mean by overpowering the speakers
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 13, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
Besides super-bright LED's, I really hate pedal knobs that have no indicator line on top, or it's just a notch in a chrome knob, etc. Yeah, your knobs look very sleek but they have to be easy to use, more than looking cool.

Settings are... ???

(http://www.crushthebutton.com/assets/products/5511/product/crush32%20(25%20of%2025).jpg?1351593208)

(http://www.electroscape.net/bild/subdecay_noise_box.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 13, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on March 13, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
Lumpy this happened to me recently, nail varnish probably won't work just cut the nail as short as it will go then file it smooth, hopefully with the tear gone or atleast almost gone, then file it smooth every day until it grows out!

/blog, feeling a bit up in the air while we move onto entirely new sets and our new drummer beds in, it's a strange feeling of uncertainty and I miss feeling solid, it's as if the band is a beast I follow through forests, sometimes I'm only catching a glimpse of it, sometimes I'm close and at times iv ridden on it's back, these last few weeks it's been far ahead, like maybe I can only imagine it, been working hard on catching up again, we've booked to record a second album in November which is exciting, I'll have it fully harnessed by then whatever it has become...
i know the feeling. my band, as you know, has also had a recent drummer change, that came after another abrupt drummer change. the dude we had landed last summer only stuck around for about 4 months until his living situation changed and was no longer available to us. he took the band in a unique direction and we played to his strengths. the new guy is a completely different animal and we have shifted gears to some degree to play to his strengths and what he brings to the table. in alot of ways the change is great as we can take things into different directions and keep things fresh. honestly im just glad we were able to find someone dumb enough to buy into our crap. my take on this is not as nearly as poetic as following beasts in the forest.. ;) but it will have to do. make sure you save me 6 minutes at your recording session in november..      
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 13, 2014, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 13, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
Besides super-bright LED's, I really hate pedal knobs that have no indicator line on top, or it's just a notch in a chrome knob, etc. Yeah, your knobs look very sleek but they have to be easy to use, more than looking cool.

Settings are... ???



I know right.  Are them damn switches on or off??!!!  Fuck??!!   ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 14, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
It's really awesome when your tone is all fucked up and you figure out it's because your foot probably accidently turned a knob on one of your pedals. Blank knobs? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 14, 2014, 10:52:25 PM
I seriously think pedal boards are a kludge that somehow can be replaced with something that makes more sense.

unfortunately, the pedalboard layout is the defacto performance design standard. 

the knobs should be up high like on a music stand. the footswitches should be in a nice row, like you could just pivot on your heel vs looking all around your jigsaw puzzle on the floor for what to step on.

oh well.   
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tried out the crown 3000 500w/ch 8ohm beast on my big C-V's (12" 3-way in a beast of an enclosure)  it was beautiful. I was watching the woofer surrounds closely as these speakers have never had more than 200w through them, but they raged. I used my nikko pre amp and it was beautiful.

anyway, with the low sens and gains at 12 o'clock on the crown, the nikko gets to about as loud as I think the C-V's can handle , also at 12 o'clock.

the C-V's are fused even. they are meant to be played.  this is a great matchup. as of now it is staying this way. crown3000+C-V 12's

next comes the rebuilt Phillips dual 6" 2 ways. for their size, no other speaker can put out the sound these can. the stock speakers were amazing sounding, until I melted all the drivers out of them heh.  SO, I put major kick ass kicker 6" woofers in and replaced the original crap tweeter with a Phillips (ironic) style ferro fluid soft dome since those can take some watts. these guys just get rolling on 100watt amps. the woofers are 100w rms rated each, so yeah. more schmoltz on tap for them.

those are my home PA system I guess you could say and they need to get loud to get over anything even a drum set.  no problem

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so that 16ch Mackie real actual pro mixer has something  cool on it i found: control room headphone monitoring options. you can listen to all kinds of signals through one set of headphones just plugged into the board by switching switches. SCORE!  this is pro level shit. 300 bucks for this amazing fucking thing.

the problem solved is the one of you have to listen to your source being recorded before it gets into the DAW so you don't have any time lag as you also listen to the recorded tracks you are playing along with. that equals 2 sources for your headphones needed at once. this thing can do it heh. just put w/e into the return of my choosing and select it. done

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have to get 300 feet of 14awg speaker wire for 6x 50' runs and i think i saw a pretty full roll of romex so skip that.   i will pull the trigger on some sort of compact ceiling LED lights here, and i think wire guides will be fun-painted pvc pipe. i have to replace one trim board for the ceiling panels becasue it twist-warped over time and actually is probably about ready to fall off heh. when i do this, i will mount all the wire guides with the new speaker wire in it, and that should be about it.
then i can take some pics

definitely stoked to finish this up so i can get back to working on music without compromise this time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 14, 2014, 11:08:08 PM
the swirl is getting clearer

ok so "symptom of a downs" appears...[this rules haha]

then "autistic Einstein" appears

just a couple more bits of something and this is all going to come together for some crazy names
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 15, 2014, 01:30:21 AM
Ocean of Stars played a strong set tonite for the Small Stone showcase, holy shit am I excited about this band.

Photo courtesy Superjudge70 from the old board, whom I've finally had the pleasure of meeting

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 15, 2014, 05:10:27 AM
super.  you sound[sic] stoked, right through the web. hopefully someone video-ded your set.

I remember superjudge.   he hated monster magnet with a passion

(total lies spewed for the laugh only)


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 16, 2014, 01:38:48 AM
I would be very interested in seeing some video of Ocean of Stars.  Post it duder.

Got my SuperNova back today.  Reacquainting ourselves tonight.  It's been a while.  We'll be sore tomorrow.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on March 16, 2014, 10:31:13 AM
Well I got a new (to me) bass amp last night to replace the one that got stolen a while back. It's not as big as my last one but it sounds better. It's an ampeg ba115hp ss combo. Sounds like an ampeg but with no dirt to be had. So now I am after a tech 21 vt bass pedal. Anyone got one they wanna sell fer cheap?(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/16/ja5aheva.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on March 16, 2014, 03:05:19 PM
I LOVE pedals but pedal boards have a lot of downsides. The obvious solution is to move the pedals into a case near the amp and patch them into a midi loop switcher. Then drop a midi controller at the front of the stage. Keeps the pedals away from drinks and whatever else.

I saw YOB and of course the bass players rig stopped working because he had two adaptors powering his board and someone unplugged the one powering his compressor.

Hopefully soon this can be cheap enough for anyone to do without spending the ton of cash they want for that Bradshaw stuff. I think the cheapest you can do now is the Disaster Area 8ch switcher strip paired with a cheap 5 button midi controller.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 16, 2014, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on March 16, 2014, 10:31:13 AM
Well I got a new (to me) bass amp last night to replace the one that got stolen a while back. It's not as big as my last one but it sounds better. It's an ampeg ba115hp ss combo. Sounds like an ampeg but with no dirt to be had. So now I am after a tech 21 vt bass pedal. Anyone got one they wanna sell fer cheap?

You could also look for a Catalinbread SFT (<---- see what they did there?) and I think it's been cloned already (so it's cheaper).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 16, 2014, 09:42:08 PM
Quote from: fallen on March 16, 2014, 03:05:19 PM
I LOVE pedals but pedal boards have a lot of downsides. The obvious solution is to move the pedals into a case near the amp and patch them into a midi loop switcher. Then drop a midi controller at the front of the stage. Keeps the pedals away from drinks and whatever else.

I saw YOB and of course the bass players rig stopped working because he had two adaptors powering his board and someone unplugged the one powering his compressor.

Hopefully soon this can be cheap enough for anyone to do without spending the ton of cash they want for that Bradshaw stuff. I think the cheapest you can do now is the Disaster Area 8ch switcher strip paired with a cheap 5 button midi controller.

I am going to start looking at this stuff.

seriously, pedals are out of control.  the circuit for a tube screamer(Ibanez) is like $5 of parts. any fuzzface 2 transistor fuzz has $15 of parts including the pair of $5 Ge transistors.  all these builders in their shops are using crude NEMA enclosures and cool paint jobs and that's the state of the art.
guitar center can smell it too. they have so many pedals it is sick and they are all $100+ now.

I wish some of the main pedal players like a couple of which post here would get a group together, like in other industries, to push the state of the art of pedals forward. The group could develop new standards and engineer out some of the worst disadvantages to a big board full of pedals.
for example, everything used to be 19" rackmount. now there is a new standard for rack gear. those little vertical packages that slide into a chassis with a backplane.
the redundant things like power, signal chain, mounting are all taken care of, leaving the builder to just build guts and not worry about all the other crap.

companies like roland have made those huge effects rigs to try to do it all, except if one thing sounds like ass, the whole thing loses its shine for you.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on March 17, 2014, 07:25:52 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 16, 2014, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: BrianDamage on March 16, 2014, 10:31:13 AM
Well I got a new (to me) bass amp last night to replace the one that got stolen a while back. It's not as big as my last one but it sounds better. It's an ampeg ba115hp ss combo. Sounds like an ampeg but with no dirt to be had. So now I am after a tech 21 vt bass pedal. Anyone got one they wanna sell fer cheap?

You could also look for a Catalinbread SFT (<---- see what they did there?) and I think it's been cloned already (so it's cheaper).

Nice. Thanks man. I had never heard of the sft before.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 17, 2014, 11:11:56 AM
Ocean of Stars video will be posted soon as I see it \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on March 18, 2014, 10:29:15 AM
Tonight we're going to a radio station to be interviewed about the band on some "Local Artist Spotlight" thingy.  Never done anything like that.  My singer and bass player, who are the ones really excited about participating, are by far the highest risk for saying something really stupid.  What should have been a really cool thing is turning into a nervous thing because I don't have the heart to tell them to not come because they're dunces.  Potheads that think they're funny and clever are the worst.  M I Rite?!?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 18, 2014, 12:01:42 PM
just finished up the South by Southwest festival here in Austin.  I saw the following heavy/doom/classic rock bands, including:


Spirit Caravan (Wino)
Scorpion Child
Kadavar
Orchid
The Well
The Heavy Eyes
Sons of Huns
Slash and other famous musicians in Jimi Hendrix Tribute

and local heavy rock Austin bands:

Ocean of Stars (Danny G)
Eric Tessmer Band (Danny G's old band)
Crimson Devils
Lone Star Demons
Burning Avalanche
Destroyer of Light
The Well

I saw a bunch of other bands too.  yay!  Super awesome time :)  Inspiring.  A vocalist says he will sing over a tune, so I am hoping he will do it soon and it sounds good and we will form up a doom band and use the demo to recruit other musicians, I gave him these tracks:  https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance-area51  he is xXx straight edge so drugs and alcohol dont get in his way :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 18, 2014, 12:13:55 PM
Best I can do posting from my phone but here's a brief teaser clip from Ocean of Stars at Small Stone Showcase

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8e5BKpzGKPk


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 18, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
Things may be looking up, music project-wise.

/guardedly optimistic
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on March 18, 2014, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 18, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
Things may be looking up, music project-wise.

/guardedly optimistic

Same here. May possibly be bass/vocals for a Blue Cheer/Cream/Band of Gypsys style power trio.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 19, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
Quote from: BrianDamage on March 18, 2014, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 18, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
Things may be looking up, music project-wise.

/guardedly optimistic

Same here. May possibly be bass/vocals for a Blue Cheer/Cream/Band of Gypsys style power trio.

Nice!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 19, 2014, 12:46:22 AM
Got my Scroll back from the luthier and the trouble areas on the fretboard so far seem trouble free and I've got the action lower than before. Happy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on March 19, 2014, 10:08:49 AM
Radio interview last night went pretty well I think.  The guy still has to chop it up and edit it together with our music to make the segment and it will start airing in 2 weeks.  Apparently airs 5 times a day for two weeks and is also hosted online along with a track of ours to download.  The guy could edit it to totally make us look like assholes if he felt so inclined, though I'm sure he won't.  But I can understand how famous people have been burned in the past by some interviewer trying to get a sexy headline.  It's really difficult to answer questions about why you're different and people should give you the time of day without kind of shitting on other bands.  For instance, you can paint yourself into a corner when saying we don't have screaming vocals because the more you talk the more it sounds like you think bands with screaming vocals are shitty.  It's a delicate balance to try to say something real without 1) offending others in the scene and 2) not sounding like a pompous prick that takes himself and his music too seriously. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 19, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
AgentofOblivion, your music sounds great!  just keep talking about the aspects of the music that you dig, what you grew up on, and funny stuff that happened along the way.  the interviewer understands that we are insane hobbyists without us telling him :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on March 21, 2014, 08:43:22 PM
Set up and sat down behind the drum kit for the first time in nearly two (?!?!) years! Really rusty, but not as bad as I expected.
The snare drum is not sounding like it does in my head. And the head does not feel like it's going to explode. Baby steps, but steps!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 21, 2014, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: justJon on March 21, 2014, 08:43:22 PM
Set up and sat down behind the drum kit for the first time in nearly two (?!?!) years! Really rusty, but not as bad as I expected.
The snare drum is not sounding like it does in my head. And the head does not feel like it's going to explode. Baby steps, but steps!

Can't express how happy this makes me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 21, 2014, 09:50:35 PM
Good to have you back behind a kit, Jon \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on March 22, 2014, 01:14:49 AM
nice!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 22, 2014, 01:43:20 AM
cool!  I recall your posts back when.  You stopped playing drums because of indescribable pain.  Did you figure out what it was and how to recouperate?  If so what did you do?  Maybe just rest, excercise, stretching and eating more/better?

Congrats, keep rocking out!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 22, 2014, 02:57:57 AM
+1 great news.

If you can play music, you win.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 22, 2014, 08:44:04 AM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/IMG_7342-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 22, 2014, 11:23:53 AM
Goddamn it that makes me happy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on March 22, 2014, 11:42:51 AM
Quote from: everdrone on March 22, 2014, 01:43:20 AM
cool!  I recall your posts back when.  You stopped playing drums because of indescribable pain.  Did you figure out what it was and how to recouperate?  If so what did you do?  Maybe just rest, excercise, stretching and eating more/better?


A little of all the above.

I have been diagnosed with Gulf War Syndrome, Spectrum II, which basically means, "We don't know what it is, but we're pretty sure it was caused by/while you were in the sandbox, so..."

Definitive "conventional" treatment is uncomfortably large doses of opiate painkillers. I'm taking those, but at a much lower rate than prescribed, 'cause the prescribed levels turn me into a Zombie. Lower levels take the edge off, and with acupuncture, yoga, Zazen, and just running/exercising out in the world, along with not eating out of frustration/boredom, etc, it takes the pain down most of the rest of the way, and I've even lost a couple inches around the middle.

Biggest progress though is being able to play, and even attend heavy shows. Even saw Spirit Caravan last week!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 22, 2014, 12:08:33 PM
cool brutha, I am glad you got the help you needed. I saw Spirit Caravan last week too!  Wino is in full force :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 22, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Just ordered a P-90 set from Wolfetone for my SG along with a new pick guard.

Lots of gear revamps coming up. New amp in the near future.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 22, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
I'm joining or talking about joining all these bands out of nowhere, got a gig on bass, one on guitar, a collaboration for which I'm gonna program drums, might even sit behind the kit again in a forth band.

Also the bass rig I just finished off with a 2x15 the other week is Vhol's backline tonight. Good way to catch a show for free.

(http://i.imgur.com/mvimtm6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on March 22, 2014, 03:52:42 PM
^^^Just based on that rig, you can be in my band!^^^
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 22, 2014, 04:00:27 PM
I dig it amigo, it's a rocking fuckin' combination. The natural distortion of those old Acoustics is better than some tube amps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 22, 2014, 04:06:02 PM
Oh, I also stood directly in front of Eagle Twin last night. Holy fucking shit.

And I thought Yob was heavy.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 22, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
Eagle Twin is subsonic heavy. His guitar tone is so well crafted it hurts.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 23, 2014, 05:29:56 AM
good news justjon. glad you are back.

I am so sick of construction already on the music room.  the problem is that I am getting busy as hell with the rest of life and I look at the shit and I just don't want to hit it. so close....

at least with all the unplugged guitar practice I have been doing while my whole setup is essentially down, I have hit a new skill level.
those are always awesome because then I can do more different things that I couldn't before.

edit: I just installed a lighted doorbell switch in my guitar. then I cut some eyeholes out of an old bait bucket. then I hit the road as a virtuoso guitarist that dances like a slow motion epileptic seizure. then I named myself pailface. then I went viral.
then I died of aids
thee end.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 23, 2014, 01:19:36 PM
I have been practicing using fretlight video lessons, but I recently stopped that

now I am using guitarpro6 to learn 12 songs for a cover band audition :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 23, 2014, 08:21:51 PM
Are those good ways to learn guitar?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 24, 2014, 12:11:05 AM
yes!  each person has a different opinion, but they work great for me.  guitarpro6 is like playing with the band as the tab appears (if you can find the tab to download)

fretlight speeds things up for me

I download tab from here:

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/

guitarpro6 is like this demo here, with fretlight the finger positions turn the lights on your guitar, it is legit and it works! RE:

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/b/black_sabbath/nib_ver2_guitar_pro.htm
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on March 24, 2014, 02:17:13 PM
Quote from: justJon on March 21, 2014, 08:43:22 PM
Set up and sat down behind the drum kit for the first time in nearly two (?!?!) years! Really rusty, but not as bad as I expected.
The snare drum is not sounding like it does in my head. And the head does not feel like it's going to explode. Baby steps, but steps!

Really glad to read this man, hopefully playing music will add its own therapeutic effect too. Emotionally, if nothing else.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on March 24, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
It's fucking extremely hard to find people to play sludge doom here in northern Poland. And it sucks. All kids just want to play thrash or death metal, moreover I don't know almost anyone who is still playing any instrument. And the remaining ones are rather not interested. Or I am not interested in playing with some of them.

Life sucks.
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Post by: BrianDamage on March 24, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
So for the past few days I have been playing along with some Iron Maiden tunes. It has made me realize that Steve Harris was a way bigger influence on my playing than I thought. Which is a nice way of saying most of my style is a direct rip off of stuff ol 'Arry did back in the 80's.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 24, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
Steve Harris is indeed bad ass, now try playing that shit while running around  :o

Here's a video with Buzz talking about general stuff and "Revolve", sorry if it's been posted already:
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 24, 2014, 11:13:55 PM
Cramming before gigs is boring as fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 24, 2014, 11:55:28 PM
I was never a big steve harris fan. im not going to deny his contributions to metal bass playing but there were/are much better metal players out there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on March 25, 2014, 12:14:25 AM
I'm a fan for sure. Feel like watching some Maiden vids now, thanks.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 25, 2014, 01:18:19 AM
His bass lines don't move me (I'm not really an IM fan in general) but physically he is a powerhouse, especially his right hand (plucking? hand). He is relentlessly hammering the strings. While he's running around the stage.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 25, 2014, 02:01:28 AM
it seems many of the best musicians would have been great athletes as well. I know a chick who blew steve harris on his football field on his property in England. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 25, 2014, 03:57:20 AM
Quote from: mortlock on March 25, 2014, 02:01:28 AM
I know a chick who blew steve harris on his football field on his property in England. 

That's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on March 25, 2014, 02:15:21 PM
NGD is near! :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 25, 2014, 06:41:11 PM
Played a Hofner from the 70s I think, just like this for about 4 notes today, immediately put it back so I wouldn't start looking for $800. I've never heard an acoustic sound that good.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 25, 2014, 08:40:30 PM
I put up an ad on CL for some Electronic collaboration about a week ago and have heard exactly nothing yet.  Too bad I don't want to play 90's rock covers or blues shit cuz there's plenty of that.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 26, 2014, 02:51:38 AM
Whelp my Acoustic B200H is back to being a doorstop.

Was worth a shot getting it fixed but seems this amp can't hang. Not reliable = not worth trying to fix.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 26, 2014, 04:40:50 AM
"Can I underpower my speakers?Will clipping hurt them?"
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1886

This actually makes some sense to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 26, 2014, 01:58:20 PM
Thinking that 800 watts bridged into a loud 8 ohm 4x10(Avatar maybe) should be enough to balance out two 2x12s on the guitar side. More speaker than that would probably involve needing to borrow a truck for gigs anyway.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 26, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
drummer from the heavy rock cover band quit, so my audition got cancelled

singer that said he would record a song with me and send me the track and form a band talked a lot but never emailed and disappeared

on the bright side I am practicing a lot more and

I just upgraded my fretlight to a better fretlight model, and this weekend will go to an Austin store to get professional setups on my guitars and maybe rewiring to make my Gibson SG standard more quiet with the pickups
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on March 26, 2014, 02:56:10 PM
What model Fleshlight are you using now?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 26, 2014, 03:10:24 PM
Quote from: everdrone on March 26, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
drummer from the heavy rock cover band quit, so my audition got cancelled

singer that said he would record a song with me and send me the track and form a band talked a lot but never emailed and disappeared

on the bright side I am practicing a lot more and

I just upgraded my fretlight to a better fretlight model, and this weekend will go to an Austin store to get professional setups on my guitars and maybe rewiring to make my Gibson SG standard more quiet with the pickups

What fretlight? Have you tried adjusting the volume knobs and lowering the pups?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 26, 2014, 03:16:17 PM
ya thanks those are good suggestions and I tried them, its the Gibson SG Standard that is making the extra noise
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on March 26, 2014, 03:23:54 PM
Fuck. I ordered a second-hand guitar that was available in online store. I sat down to make a bank transfer but I thought "I must check if they removed it from the list to make sure it is not a scam". And what happened? Store's site is down. It's rather well-known Polish online music store (not the best one but surely not the worst) but hell, now I'm getting paranoid. I'll call them tomorrow morning to make sure everything is OK.

Damn, everything is getting more and more complicated :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 26, 2014, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: everdrone on March 26, 2014, 03:16:17 PM
ya thanks those are good suggestions and I tried them, its the Gibson SG Standard that is making the extra noise

Bad noise? Like beyond normal moderate or higher output pickup tone? Fret buzz maybe? Electric guitars are a loud mess to me. Everything has to be just so or shit is going crazy and sounding like a trash can.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 26, 2014, 05:22:34 PM
Have you tried plugging the amp into a few diff electrical outlets?


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 26, 2014, 09:45:15 PM
I cut the whole pup selector switch out of the guts of my LP and direct wired each pup to its own output jack with its own tone and vol only. that thing is dead  silent now.(drilled a hole in the backplate for the wire to the second jack)

I can also run each pup to an entirely different rig to do crazy LOCO H, and even I with an occasional J , K?       (well ok lots of j's)


so I channeled elektrohaze:

bwang!  b string breaks on hagstrom, no problem, whup out the paul
bwang: e string breaks

whup out the tele     STOP

can't touch this

have to tune that one first haha. killed my roll. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 26, 2014, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 26, 2014, 04:40:50 AM
"Can I underpower my speakers?Will clipping hurt them?"
http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1886

This actually makes some sense to me.


he dumbed the explanation down too much to pure theoretical. ok for guitar speakers

big capacitors are used in the powersupply for extra instantaneous shmoltz to play peaks clean. called "instantaneaous headroom". this is cheating and dude never mentions that most amps do this.  +6db of schmoltz will vaporize a tweeter voice coil wire when it gets thru the crossover cap as a harmonic of something huge.

he makes no mention of real world issues like tweeters having super fine voice coil wire, except they are mixed in a multispeaker array with heavier duty speakers.
I guarantee you massive high powered harmonic distortion will melt your tweeters right thru the crossovers. I have seen it so many times.
I have also seen and burned up tweeters with sheer overpower. they fail differently

my mantra always was "clipping kills tweeters" especially since I saw that reality enough.

from a music speaker 12in super-midrange guitar speaker point of view. ya, if the speaker can take the solid rail power, you cant hurt it with that amp

but , this is a music instrument speaker vs music REPRODUCTION speaker issue.    you see piezo tweeters a lot in music gear. those are tough as nails. you rarely see a piezo in music reproduction because relatively, they sound like ass.

conclusion :     caveat: stereo speaker tweeters are the exception and definitely get killed by clipping and general overpowered harmonics
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 26, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
I will always take way overpowered amps to just enough always.  my sound is way bigger and cleaner/more present than others because I have so much clean headroom beyond my playing volume. the whole game is current flow. I prefer to drive my Porsche, even in the school zone.

here is the deal everyone seems to shit the bed over:

"OHHHH 1000watts a channel that will blow the whole thing up!!" you cant use that!"

wrong. you cant use all 1000watts until the speaker catches fire, but average decent volume listening level is 1watt cont, maybe 10 watt cont if you are jamming out pretty good.  the 1000watt amp can play that level too, just like the 100watt amp. but catch a 20db digital peak and the 1000w amp will excel whereas the 100watt amp may be getting close to the end of its reserve power, even an instantaneous peak. btw, +20dB on a 10w cont is 1000w.

edit: danny g knows the downside of running an underpowered bass head  at 100% all the time too.  make that circuit shove its max current for long periods of time.

you need the 1000 watt acoustic head to play at the very same volume the b200 was played at. then the head will not die so quick due to component failure since it is playing with 6-7 db more headroom, and is not pushing its current flow limits(and related heat dissipation ability since no semiconductor junction is 100% efficient).

seriously, both you guys are casually just running your amps as maxxed out as you can get away with. or not get away with....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 26, 2014, 10:49:28 PM
check out the imax soundsystem.  god's stereo

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/the-sound-of-imax/16250
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 26, 2014, 11:10:03 PM
thanks guys, Ill look into those suggestions, I would rather keep the money  ;D

I got my new fretlight guitar and it is super quiet and sounds great through the same rig, which bugs me to say the least cause Ive been using my decimator gstring noise reduction to cover it up. I paid a pretty penny to get those seymour duncans installed in the Gibson SG standard.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 27, 2014, 12:21:46 AM
Ah, I thought you were talking about some type of fretboard lighting device. I have no idea what a fretlight guitar is.

jibberish- that all makes sense. If I was going to start over building a rig I'd go with two small 4x12s with loud high wattage handling speakers and a SS power amp that could deliver at least 800 watts. My Dual Showman into two loud 2x12s isn't perfect but it gets the job done for now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 27, 2014, 01:34:41 AM
The usual operating volume for the B200H was usually about 3. Wasn't running it too hard at all.

I think it's just a piece of shit. Which sucks as it sounded great when it worked.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 27, 2014, 01:52:20 AM
Only 3? What cab/cabs did you run it into?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on March 27, 2014, 02:46:29 AM
I'll say it again, what the hell....the original Acoustics are often cheaper to buy than these fuckin' rebadged chunks of shit, and most of them STILL WORK forty years down the line
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 27, 2014, 03:27:36 AM
Quote from: Danny G on March 27, 2014, 01:34:41 AM
The usual operating volume for the B200H was usually about 3. Wasn't running it too hard at all.

I think it's just a piece of shit. Which sucks as it sounded great when it worked.


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I was assuming you were rocking that thing out too hard. maybe you weren't and maybe it is a turd.

although that combo that I bought for my nephew wasn't all that dominating in the big scheme of things.  so idk since I actually horsed with one.

And another thing to consider is that even setting the knob on that arbitrary number 3 may have been running that guy hard.
is that cab 4ohms or less? do you use boost pedals? overdrive the input and you are getting max gain. turn it up to where it is big but not quite puking, then suck as much current out the other end with low impedance speakers for max current draw. I could see you tiring that thing out.

the fact that it is rebadged Chinese shit does not help because you know they cut corners on wire/trace sizes, and general robustness of components, which makes the whole thing even more fragile.
my nephew uses his almost every day, actually mostly for practicing guitar after his little band broke up haha. it is on a lot, but not really used hard.  it may never die if it isn't gigged against drums.

edit: i'm not slagging you guys, but specs are fluffed up to look good and you can get tricked by sticking too tight to their numbers when you go to put these things to serious work. plus no one has a fear of learning the limitations of something , then moving on, so it is all valuable gear knowledge playing with any gear.

I melted the outputs right out of my nice Sherwood receiver. I have melted and destroyed a few amps and speakers over the years. those big fails actually help the big picture.

to me, a speaker can play only so loud. drive it up to the edge of losing tightness and no further, regardless of the amp. the trick is to listen for the amp to start getting raggedy before the speaker is driven fully. here again, easier with stereo meant to be super clean. put some fans on power amps to make them live longer under hard duty. it is heat that kills.

you know how you buy a 3000watt generator if you are going to be running a hard 20amp circuit?
no one would buy a 2000w peak generator to like run an electric chainsaw. you up your chance to kill it before too long and possibly damage the chainsaw motor. or get sick of resetting the breaker.
it's all the same game: putting out schmoltz
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 27, 2014, 04:06:02 AM
you know, I would ask mr foxen how large drivers like your 2x15, or large arrays of many voice coils, affect SS amps.


motion in, electric out=generator
electric in, motion out = motor

a speaker is both, at the same time. maybe huge mass drivers put too much back emf into wimpy amps when driven near max

idk, that's why i'm wondering.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on March 27, 2014, 10:24:52 AM
I wouldn't begin to recommend this behavior at all, but I recklessly tried every combination of settings, pedals, active pickups, mismatched ohms, you name it, all over a period of a couple years with my old school Acoustic 370 and get this, it laughed and mocked me ! Then it whispered "You're lucky I'm not an Ampeg SVT-4" and we both chuckled heartily.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 27, 2014, 11:04:18 AM
Have run the B200H into my 600w Isovent cab 2x10s/2x15s) and my Dietz 2x15 (400w, EVs)

When it was working early on the direct out on it went kaput (sucked anyway)

When I got it fixed ran it thru an 8x10 and had to keep turning down. Was loud as shit, hence running it at 3

Then used it for a gig w/my 2x15 and that's when it kept spitting the speaker cable out the back of the cab.

I'm thinking going thru an hour of load/no load/load/no load fucked up the voltage regulator again.

Now whatever I plug it into I hit a note, get a fraction of a second of sound, the clicking from inside the amp and signal cutting out.

#doorstop


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on March 27, 2014, 12:12:38 PM
I think of the dumb shit I did with my old Mesa 50 caliber plus head (wrong impedance, plugged in without a connection to a speaker cab) and I am lucky I never received any trouble from her.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 27, 2014, 02:30:28 PM
Ive been running a Peavey Heritage VTX at a mismatch for three years, cranked. I have also dropped tubes out of the sockets playing bass out of it at 2 ohms.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on March 27, 2014, 02:34:28 PM
Never done the research, but I have long suspected that tube amps, in general, are more forgiving of impedance mismatches than SS.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 27, 2014, 03:06:23 PM
^^I think this point may have been discussed a time or two on the interwebs ;)  Also congrats on getting back behind the kit. 8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on March 27, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
Quote from: RAGER on March 27, 2014, 03:06:23 PM
^^I think this point may have been discussed a time or two on the interwebs ;)  Also congrats on getting back behind the kit. 8)
Well, I'm a drummer, so as I say, never done the research. If it's "Stick, meet dead horse>" Time, I apologize.

And thanks! ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on March 27, 2014, 09:31:40 PM
I don't think either of my ss amps even mention impedance on the back, whereas my tube amps most certainly do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on March 27, 2014, 10:29:35 PM
Years ago I ran a 6x10 and a 2x12 with my Sunn Concert Lead and it would work for a while.  But the relatively low impedance and dimed volume would overwork my Concert and it would cut out until it cooled off.  Dimed volume with either cab would run indefinitely.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on March 28, 2014, 12:23:02 AM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on March 27, 2014, 02:46:29 AM
I'll say it again, what the hell....the original Acoustics are often cheaper to buy than these fuckin' rebadged chunks of shit, and most of them STILL WORK forty years down the line

Can't say enough good about my 450.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 28, 2014, 03:28:28 AM
no question, even just the weight of that old stuff. everything down to the chassis was better, and more hand built attention.
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SS is a semiconductor junction, actually 2, that "valves" current.   if you run the power supply full bore through the collector-emitter of a transistor, you will melt it. it is just crystals with fucked up lattices to make fancy electron control possible by influencing the middle slab of crystal via the gate.

this lattice is sort of a random affair in its construction, but overall functions like a junction, heh.
I guarantee the fuzz pedal builders will agree with this. tough to find 2 germanium transistors out of a bag of 100 that have the same identical hFe. like snowflakes, no 2 are alike, but they are all still w/e spec transistors fitting in a range of acceptable values. that's why Ge went away. Si is much easier to control in process. also Ge is poisonous so that added production issues to the game.

so, you can run that thing through a Godzilla reactive load, like lets say 10 drivers all in a series/parallel array, which also happens to present a sub 2ohm load at electrical resonance and get away with it for a time.  A few more chunks of the lattice get smoked, but it basically keeps going. now extend super hard duty to all the semiconductor components all thru the amp and slowly degrade all of them.  at some point you cross the line. replacing the most failed thing just sets up the next most failed thing to go after w/e 15min left of life it has.
semiconductor damage does not repair itself, except in very special combinations of self annealing crystals, like what you would use in space because cosmic rays etc will constantly keep scrambling your semiconductors. so it just keeps adding up.

i'm not sure what a voltage regulator is in this context, but  maybe it has a dc-dc converter on-a-chip which is a tiny semiconductor IC based affair that is more easily melted than discrete components. I could see that. makes power supply design a lot quicker. pick you starting dc value, your final value and buy that module. who cares what's in it. it converts my voltage. I seriously love them, but you can really cheap out here too.

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assume unmarked SS amps are made for 8 ohm loads. the more resistance the safer it is. you absolutely cannot hurt a SS amp by having no speaker connected. it's just an open circuit, so the gate can do w/e it wants and the collector is ready to rock, but there is no drain and hence no current flow.
maybe if someone did some stuff with transformer matching to speakers you could have transformer related problems, idk, but direct SS no.

so as you unload the SS amp with higher and higher impedance, you just strangle the output, until the resistance is too high to push any electrons through(no speaker, ie open).

I guess I am justifying my argument that you really could have just flat wore that thing out a-z. obviously, this is all speculation based on what I saw before and I can be missing the boat entirely here, who knows.  but, ss is my entire life. tubes is the new kid.

fwiw, that bh200 and combo is a 4ohm setup. they dont even spec it at 8ohms because it would probably only be like 100watts. i would suggest you get that B600h that is specced for 2 ohms. that right there tells you it is built for hi current.

i'll send you a money order for $100 to help start the fund to buy one if you want. I also wouldn't mess with that 200 anymore either. not pro enough for you.

edit:
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fwiw, in my current(no pun intended, but I would have if I would have thought of it) music room project, I still need a couple more big power amps. I have already been keeping an eye out for one that has specs for a 2ohm load. this big crown I got is not specced for 2ohm stereo. I will not use it on my little custom 2 ohm beasts or with paired parallel 4 ohm subs, of which I have 4, so another 2 ohm stereo situation.

I use my 100w pioneer receiver on the 2ohm 6x2's all the time. that receiver gets so fucking hot that I cant put anything on it cuz it needs to breathe, badly. haha, then the thermal starts kicking out. I already lost speaker A outputs, it only functions through speaker B, so stuff is starting to go on this turd too. but I admit to total ugly abuse .
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on March 28, 2014, 08:35:35 AM
I have a question for you more knowledgeable folk. On the local craigslist there is a Garnet power/slave unit and has what is advertised as a Garnet 4x10 cab. It has no identifying marks on it and to be honest I didn't think they even made 4x10 cabs... Anyone got any info about these shits they can swing my way?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 28, 2014, 04:00:36 PM
Sorry can't help ya there Brain.  Pissy prolly can though.

Random thought; I like amps with very few knobs but I like my synths with as many knobs as possible.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 28, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
got the pvc pipe and fittings cut and spray painted black for running speaker wire across exposed areas of the ceiling. I found some nice flex hoses from some oxygen rig my mom had towards the end there. she had to change these hoses out like every 2 weeks. idk why so often, it was just an oxygen feed line, but I have a couple of them. they will rule as flexible down-drops for cableing. then I make a secondary cable guide for signal wires and stuff from the control desk to the amp stack.

and finally do some ac rewiring and run AC drops to both the control desk and amp stack. I want to scavenge off of 3 different 20 amp circuits for powering up the whole room.  I am thinking of splitting a spare 220line into a pair of 110's. it isn't being used for the stove any longer. that would do it. the original circuit plus those 2.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 28, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Good Ocean of Stars rehearsal last night.

We'll be debuting a new song "Sinners & Science" from my latest solo album at our gig next Friday.

Then last two weeks of April we'll be cutting a demo, probably on my digi 8 track which I did all my albums on. Need to get that done ASAP as I'll be on the road most of May

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 29, 2014, 07:50:39 AM
Quote from: RAGER on March 28, 2014, 04:00:36 PM
Sorry can't help ya there Brain.  Pissy prolly can though.

Random thought; I like amps with very few knobs but I like my synths with as many knobs as possible.

They made some different cab configurations. Some of their bass cabs had horns in them. Some had 3 speakers.

I think I found the ad, and it doesn't look to me like the cab is a Garnet though. The head being Solid State I'd say isn't anything special, though I'd be interested in hearing it. They're solid state stuff isn't very sought after.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on March 29, 2014, 06:01:56 PM
Damn... I'm seriously considering trading my Skervesen for something else... But on the other hand it's a great guitar with great tone and outstanding build quality. Unfortunately, it lacks sustain...

Maybe I'll find someone who will trade it for a LP standard, or (preferrably) two SGs / LP studios :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 30, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
I got a reply back on my cl ad. Did some fb sleuthing and he's a fuckn god fearin christer. Was maybe gonna meet up today for a beer but fuck that noise.

I'm prolly just destined to do this shit ma self. One man wolf pack.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 30, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
omlet, do you have nice old hagstroms floating around cheap?

schecter string thru guitars have nice sustain too.



I found the power amps I will get.  there is a series of crown amps spec'd for 2ohm. $499 for the 280w/ch 8ohm model(700w/ch into 2ohms)
they also have a series of "class d" magnetic switching power supply amps also. the ones that only weigh 10 pounds. those are based on trickery and do fine if not pushed real hard.
amps built for current weigh a ton and cost more due to the extra materials

crown xti 1002. at 700w into 2 ohms we are looking at like 17-18amps at ~35volts. that's some current
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XTi1002/

their class d amps look super sexy on paper, but they are specifically NOT recommended for 2 ohm loads like the xls1500, which I would buy no problem for general loading. I dig the crown brand. it has been around forever. notice more 8ohm and 4ohm power than the xti 1002 and a lower price.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XLS1500/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on March 30, 2014, 03:46:50 PM
My HWY1 tele has enough sustain for me :D
I love the Skervesen and probably I'll keep it - it's great for black metal or classic metal but not so outstanding for doom, stoner or drone. But I still like it very much.

At the end of the upcoming week I should know if they plan to fire me or keep me in the company so it will determine if I'll start looking for some people to play stoner or sludge doom. If i lose the job it will be impossible to buy an amp (I have only 15W roland cube :D) or pay for any practice space, so it will be quite stressful week for me.

I want to play some really dirty and fucked-up sludge/doom similar to Sourvein, but a) i'm not sure if anyone here wants to play such music b) i'm not very good at coming up with such riffs. So maybe I'll stick to some stoner/doom stuff, maybe something similar to Acid King, as I absolutely love Lori's riffs. She is the Queen of the Riff, at least for me.

Uhh, I don't even want to think about my future right now :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 30, 2014, 06:36:55 PM
Quote from: Omlet on March 30, 2014, 03:46:50 PM
I want to play some really dirty and fucked-up sludge/doom similar to Sourvein, but a) i'm not sure if anyone here wants to play such music b) i'm not very good at coming up with such riffs.

Can you get the type of tone you like for sludge? When I'm going for a certain sound my guitar half plays itself if I've got the tone the way I like it for said sound. I've had good luck running distortion pedals into amp distortion for more extreme sludgy sounds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on March 30, 2014, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: jibberish on March 28, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
and finally do some ac rewiring and run AC drops to both the control desk and amp stack. I want to scavenge off of 3 different 20 amp circuits for powering up the whole room.  I am thinking of splitting a spare 220line into a pair of 110's. it isn't being used for the stove any longer. that would do it. the original circuit plus those 2.

Split that circuit.  Pull two #12s...#10 if it doesn't kill your wallet, WHY? decreased resistance on the grounds and neutrals and while we are at it-why not MC all that armor/sheilding couldn't hurt + metal jboxes, it's what I'd do if I were building/remodeling a practice/recording space)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 31, 2014, 02:30:49 AM
Quote from: dogfood on March 30, 2014, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: jibberish on March 28, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
and finally do some ac rewiring and run AC drops to both the control desk and amp stack. I want to scavenge off of 3 different 20 amp circuits for powering up the whole room.  I am thinking of splitting a spare 220line into a pair of 110's. it isn't being used for the stove any longer. that would do it. the original circuit plus those 2.

Split that circuit.  Pull two #12s...#10 if it doesn't kill your wallet, WHY? decreased resistance on the grounds and neutrals and while we are at it-why not MC all that armor/sheilding couldn't hurt + metal jboxes, it's what I'd do if I were building/remodeling a practice/recording space)


I am freak enough to pull 10 so watch what you say haha

but I seriously am close to the breaker box(the upper NW corner of the basement is literally about 6 feet from the box in the garage on that same wall. I was planning just to use normal romex .

but now you got me thinking some more, so yeah, more meditation needed on the final setup heh.

3 circuits may be overkill, but I guarantee one 20 amp circuit cant handle all the gear ill have when I fire the whole room up. even the pc uses some juice, and lights, etc etc.   I would be tempted to put the dehumidifier all on it's own circuit. that fucker is like a microwave, it draws some juice. I have to use it in the summer tho. no choice.

actually you have helped. this house is old and the current breaker box is out of code.  I think this is the perfect time to say fuck it and replace the whole fucking breaker box. old school needed 220 for several things.  I have natural gas service, which is superior in every way to electric for heating, so I don't need 220's for stoves or dryers etc.

edit: I pulled and trayed the 8 speaker wires through the ceilings and the  3/4" PVC tray setup I made. I added the 4th set of speaker wires for the eventual subs I will build into the brick woodboxes on either side of the fireplace.  I will own a truly zero flex cabinet haha all brick and cement. that will be some tight fucking bass with no cabinet softening it.  saved a future "oh no"

so those 8, 50 foot wires are all wrangled into submission acceptably.

next comes the cable tray for the misc signal wires from the control desk to the amp stack, and also a network cable.
the last thing will be the power distro since I am still in flux regarding the sourcing of powering the room
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 31, 2014, 08:41:31 PM
If I've lived in the same place for 35 years is it okay for me to say fuck this state once in awhile when show turnout is super weak? What the fuck WI? If you didn't see Slough Feg last time or Spirit Caravan last night don't expect to get another chance here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 01, 2014, 12:02:51 AM


The more I think about it...more circuits = less noise due to more (relatively) isolated neutrals and grounds.  I say put a new panel in and run a shit ton of 15A circuits that feed one receptacle.  

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 01, 2014, 12:08:03 AM
Also, had both the Traynor YBA-1s exorcised and had a bias mod put in both.  One has the GT el-34s it has always had and I had the other re-tubed.  Bought some JJ 6550s and they sound like golden tits! GOLDEN TITS!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 01, 2014, 01:21:08 AM
Will be grabbing my SVT-II from storage tomorrow. Very anxious to take a look at it and locate the aforementioned possibly faulty electrolytics.

Will post my findings.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 01, 2014, 01:23:08 AM
And I would like to acquire some JJ 6550s when time for the imminent SVT retube. Been reading lots of overwhelmingly good things about them.

Shit. If the SVT-II comes back into service, it'll need new tubes as well...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 01, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
Ok. Picked up the SVT-II and immediately set to pulling it apart.

Already noticed a burned out resistor and a fried solder joint. Electrolytics look fine far as I can see.

Need to track down resistor value as not much left of it for identification purposes.

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Pulling the board was a commitment.

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Burned out solder trace to a cap

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/02/ysezujav.jpg)

Fried resistor, opposite end of the board

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 01, 2014, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: Danny G on April 01, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
Ok. Picked up the SVT-II and immediately set to pulling it apart.

Already noticed a burned out resistor and a fried solder joint. Electrolytics look fine far as I can see.

Need to track down resistor value as not much left of it for identification purposes.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/02/by8u7aby.jpg)

Pulling the board was a commitment.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/02/9a3yna9y.jpg)

Burned out solder trace to a cap

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/02/ysezujav.jpg)

Fried resistor, opposite end of the board

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/02/gutetu2a.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 01, 2014, 04:09:26 PM
Ha! Yeah and I'm going to assume that thing also does not weigh 85 pounds.

Attempted to remedy the Acoustic B200H. Noticed the plastic connector for the wires from power section to speaker jacks was very loosey-goosey. Hard wired them in place.

Didn't work. Shit.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 02, 2014, 02:51:52 PM
I've gotten 3 responses back from my CL electronica collab ad.  The first was a no go right away.  The other 2 seem promising so I emailed and have not heard back.  I had to edit my ad to specify no Republicans or religious types at all.  Not interested in joining your worship band.

I know people that I could actually do some stuff with but I'm trying to broaden my network I guess to people I don't already know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 02, 2014, 07:00:59 PM
I would consider doing it solo if possible, less problems with logistics, drama, shirkers, flakes etc. One of the big plusses with electronic music is that you don't need a band... depending on what you want to do...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 02, 2014, 07:22:02 PM
I'm hoping to incorporate live drums and some guitar into the whole mix.  So I envision being on the drums while the other dude is running the keys and shit and then there will be passages where we can both be on the synths/software stuff while mixing in some guitar here and there.

But believe you me I'm not 100% sold on the idea of working with somebody.  1 persons bullshit is better than 2.  Besides I've become more and more non social the past few years.  At the very least I can glean some logistical things from the other person.  I've got way more electronic gear than I know how to operate.

I've gotten some more responses.  One guy sounds especially on the same page.  Gonna hopefully just meet up for a beer first.  I'm a little leery showing off all my gear to strangers right away.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 02, 2014, 08:51:33 PM
Keep hope alive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 03, 2014, 12:55:20 AM
Playing mostly with bands you like and not playing out that much vs playing shows with random bands and playing out more.

Discuss. If you feel like it.


On a somewhat related note, right now I feel like the heavy/metal/doom/whatever scene/scenes in WI is/are almost nonexistent dispite metal supposedly being back and 'doom' supposedly being all the rage. I think it works like this: old and truly legendary bands as well as newer bands that are hyped to 20 somethings by certain sources can sometimes get good show turnouts in big cities. Otherwise, it's a total crapshoot and generally pretty dismal.

I'm realizing that if you're playing out and there are even a handful of people actually standing up watching you, be grateful. And if even a single person is there play your asses off and enjoy the moment. Me and two friends, a door guy, and maybe two bar tenders saw Aquilonion once and it was a great set, I was right up by the stage fucked up rocking out and I'm very glad they didn't just pack it up after 5 minutes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 03, 2014, 01:03:16 AM
How funny would it be if they put an 85 lb plate of lead in that pedal?!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 03, 2014, 10:27:50 AM
And then wrote on it " you can't have everything asshole"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 03, 2014, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 03, 2014, 12:55:20 AM
Playing mostly with bands you like and not playing out that much vs playing shows with random bands and playing out more.

Discuss. If you feel like it.

Assuming you don't really mean "bands you like" as much as "bands of a similar style,", I'd go with #1 because I (and most folks, imo, don't usually appreciate mixed-style bills). I've played with plenty of similar-style bands I thought were great, plenty more that sucked, and a whole lot more in between.

If you really mean based upon your own personal taste, step back & look at the bigger picture: is it likely some of their following will dig yer band (assuming they have one)?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 03, 2014, 11:58:09 AM
Quote from: RacerX on April 03, 2014, 11:22:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 03, 2014, 12:55:20 AM
Playing mostly with bands you like and not playing out that much vs playing shows with random bands and playing out more.

Discuss. If you feel like it.

Assuming you don't really mean "bands you like" as much as "bands of a similar style,", I'd go with #1 because I (and most folks, imo, don't usually appreciate mixed-style bills). I've played with plenty of similar-style bands I thought were great, plenty more that sucked, and a whole lot more in between.

If you really mean based upon your own personal taste, step back & look at the bigger picture: is it likely some of their following will dig yer band (assuming they have one)?

I didn't word that the best. I meant a like/similar combo. It's tough to make sure all the bands are similar. Plenty of black metal fans don't like stoner rock and vice versa but one can do worse. I definitely think about the tastes of the followings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 03, 2014, 12:07:38 PM
There ya go.

The way things are these days, if the show adds even 1 fan, it was worth it.

A slow build is better than no build.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 03, 2014, 12:14:30 PM
I really like playing with other bands, doesn't really matter who. The few dives here that we can play are pretty good about booking generally heavy shows. I most enjoy wiping the stage with the other bands.

On another note, we're going into the studio in a few weeks to record a demo. Just a local guy with one big room. Gonna track everything live, and add vocals. Spending a $100 day tracking, and then however long it takes us another day to mix everything down. Stoked. It's been a long time since I've been in a studio. Still remember though how easy it is to make mistakes over and over again, even when you know the material through and through, because there's suddenly a sentient ear recording every move you make. Like having someone staring at you from all directions while you try to ignore it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 03, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
My favorite part of the studio is when everybody is in the control room and you're listening to just your vocals blasting in the monitors and rewinding to certain parts and scrutinizing them and rewinding and doing it over and over.  That's a good time.


On another bloggy note, I have a date tonight.  With a man.  He's saying all the right words like Tame Impala, Neu!, Melvins, Locrian, Moon Duo, Dead Meadow, etc....  Turns out through some internet sleuthing he went to school with my girl and she says he was always a super nice guy and a skater.  So we're having a beer tonight to meet up.  If all goes well we might jam on Sunday.  i think this will give me the chance to get behind the drums again and also do synth stuff cuz he's a synth nerd too.  Kinda stoked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 03, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Did I mention that I already love my tele? Its tone with big muff is fucking amazing... but I want to try more stompboxes :D

Can you recommend me some good fuzz box? Is swollen pickle worth buying it? Or maybe should I try something different / more expensive, such as Fuzz Factory or sth?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 03, 2014, 01:01:33 PM
My guitarist LOVES his Swollen Pickle pedal. It's definitely a sludge/stoner tone, low and thick with scooped mids.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 03, 2014, 01:09:20 PM
So probably I'll give it a try, unfortunately they are rather pricey here, at least for me :(

BTW: dude who posted a review of my drone/doom project in the Polish internets wants to do an interview with me. I'm flattered :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on April 03, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
I would get my hands on a BAT Pharaoh. I recently just got one in a trade from a fellow SRLer and I love it. Sludge heaven.

When stacked with my OCD, it gets some great sounds
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 03, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
Get a BAT Ritual.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 03, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
Uhh they are hardly available in Europe - nothing outside of Ebay and shipping is rather expensive for it...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on April 03, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
We're almost always the least-heavy band on the bill and I don't like that.  Mainly because the people that are coming to see us are usually stretching the amount of heaviness they accept anyway, so they're pretty much guaranteed to not like the other bands (and therefore not enjoy themselves that much). 

But deep down inside I think it's probably more the case that I don't like much heavier music, with a few exceptions, and I almost always think they suck live for tonal reasons if nothing else.  And then I project my bummer point of view on hypothetical fans.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 03, 2014, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: Omlet on April 03, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Did I mention that I already love my tele? Its tone with big muff is fucking amazing... but I want to try more stompboxes :D

Can you recommend me some good fuzz box? Is swollen pickle worth buying it? Or maybe should I try something different / more expensive, such as Fuzz Factory or sth?

Fuzz Factory does a lot of different things, but it's not really a heavy stoner doom pedal IMO. More on the 60s side (and can get weird too).

If you can get a Swollen Pickle in your area, then maybe look into the Fat Sandwich (same manufacturer). I haven't owned it, but it seems to have the right sounds.

See if these are available near you: Meathead, Barber Trifecta, Supercollider. Also, a lot of people use the Rat and different Rat variations.

If you're on a budget, some of these pedals have been cloned. Especially the Rat.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 03, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
You're in Europe—what about a Meathead Dark?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on April 03, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
I think a Russian Big Muff might be more the hot thing in your area, no?  ;D

We got 3 jams locked down, looking for a studio now so we can book 2 days to record a first ep. This is terrifying and awesome at the same time, I've never gotten this far with a band before. Only had projects that recorded rehearsals but not anything else. Also asking around for experiences. We need a live room that can track bass and drums at the same time since we're more of space rock/jam band anyway and I want to keep that live feel. It's for a tape/digital as well so it doesn't have to be immensely hifi. In the meantime, our synth guy still is busy with his work, not really sure if he still wants to do it so might ask someone else to try out.

/bandblog
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on April 03, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
The swollen pickle is my favorite fuzz for guitar. The "secret" to getting rad tones are the trim pots inside the pedal housing. Speaking of pedals I picked up the behringer sansamp knock off. This thing sounds awesome as fuck. In just a couple of minutes I was able to get a killer Dale Peters tone. I also was able to get some Geddy Lee and Lemmy style sounds pretty quickly and with a precision bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 04, 2014, 12:24:12 AM
The Meathead is the most insane fuzz I've ever heard. It will do '60s to over the top mega sludge tones. You plug it in, crank it up, and your guitar basically plays itself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 04, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
I will vouch for the Black Arts Pharaoh, I dig mine :)  clips of it used in conjunction with my tech21Oxford/IRs are in my sig
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on April 04, 2014, 12:41:05 PM
All depends on the amp right?

With an Marshall-ish amp that has some scoop to it the Pharaoh adds in those missing mid frequencies and sounds amazing.

With a Fender-ish amp I like the Black Forest a lot better. Then stack a fuzz face or something in front of it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on April 04, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
My first and only fuzz I've owned is the Earthquaker Devices Hoof.  I've found that unless I'm running it into a super clean channel, it's basically useless in a live setting.  It sounds great, but you can't hear it for shit in the mix.  I don't know if this is a fuzz thing in general, or something with this pedal.  I've tweaked the knobs endlessly but no matter what the guys always say, "Did something cut out?  I couldn't hear you," and the guys NEVER say that.  I don't use a multi-channel amp and therefore typically don't have a super clean channel available to me, so the pedal is basically useless.  I guess this means it's for sale. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 04, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Maybe keep it for recording only.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 04, 2014, 07:21:52 PM
I plan to buy a Laney gh amp + marshall 1960, just because they are fucking cheap :D But im not sure if i mana ge fo find anyone to play stoner  doom here so everything may become irrelevant :/

Fuck, im drunk. 1.30 am here so i guess i'll go to sleep :F
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 04, 2014, 07:50:25 PM
Meet up with CL responder went good last night so Sunday we jam.  We'll see.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 04, 2014, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on April 04, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
My first and only fuzz I've owned is the Earthquaker Devices Hoof.  I've found that unless I'm running it into a super clean channel, it's basically useless in a live setting.  It sounds great, but you can't hear it for shit in the mix.  I don't know if this is a fuzz thing in general, or something with this pedal.  I've tweaked the knobs endlessly but no matter what the guys always say, "Did something cut out?  I couldn't hear you," and the guys NEVER say that.  I don't use a multi-channel amp and therefore typically don't have a super clean channel available to me, so the pedal is basically useless.  I guess this means it's for sale. 

i think it is indeed a "fuzz thing in general". Lots of fuzzes sound awesome solo, but you disappear in a band setting, or they start sounding horrible through a loud amp. Standard variety Big Muffs are especially bad at getting muddy, IMO. Check out a Meathead (there are clones around) or any kind of Superfuzz variant. The Superfuzzes seem to have tons of fuzzy texture but seem to retain note definition. Meatheads too. Superfuzzes may be slightly too retro/60's sounding for your tastes, YMMV. Meatheads sound vicious and fairly modern IMO. Mud seems to be the enemy here. You can definitely find a fuzz that suits you though. Just depends on what you need it to do, what your playing style is, etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 05, 2014, 12:29:41 AM
Saying 8 or 9 when the show starts at 10 or 10:30. Discuss. I don't like it. I like when people help the bar out by buying drinks but..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 05, 2014, 12:34:21 AM
I prefer a show that starts on time. especially if theres a lot of bands playing..
I hate when bands take too long between sets to start playing..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 05, 2014, 01:29:19 AM
I hear ya there. I meant more when the Facebook event page/flyers say one time but they never intended the show to start at that time.
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Post by: BrianDamage on April 05, 2014, 07:33:00 AM
First jam with the new power trio last night. The other two guys are dudes I have been jamming with off and on since we were teenagers so we already know we work well together. Sounded good and heavy. Basically did a few covers just to get going and then jammed on some original ideas. Haven't played with anyone in a couple of years and I gotta say it felt awesome to rock at full volume again.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 05, 2014, 09:29:42 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 05, 2014, 12:29:41 AM
Saying 8 or 9 when the show starts at 10 or 10:30. Discuss. I don't like it. I like when people help the bar out by buying drinks but..

We learned long ago to never tell people the time the show actually starts, or the actual time we'd be going on, because 1) people are usually late and will miss half your set or 2) the club will switch your slot earlier and people will miss your set. Now we just say "doors open at 9" or some equivalent.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 05, 2014, 01:14:07 PM
I guess I'll try to grab a Meathead copy... One knob = pure win :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 05, 2014, 04:19:13 PM
Quote from: agent of change on April 05, 2014, 09:29:42 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 05, 2014, 12:29:41 AM
Saying 8 or 9 when the show starts at 10 or 10:30. Discuss. I don't like it. I like when people help the bar out by buying drinks but..

We learned long ago to never tell people the time the show actually starts, or the actual time we'd be going on, because 1) people are usually late and will miss half your set or 2) the club will switch your slot earlier and people will miss your set. Now we just say "doors open at 9" or some equivalent.

I try to remember to tell people that our time could get switched due to unforeseen circumstances. Some people work late, have other stuff going on, etc and are more likely in some cases to come if they know exactly when you are playing. We like say think 'fuck the people that won't stay and see all the bands' but it's often not possible for people to do that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 05, 2014, 04:21:56 PM
We are playing an unheated warehouse venue tonight. It's about 50 right now but by show time(and we go on first) the outside temp could be 35. I'm going to wear layers and a warm hat, anyone have any other tips? I'm the type who gets cold hands and toes even when my head and core are warm. I will do my best but it's harder to fret with numb or half numb fingers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 05, 2014, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: mortlock on April 05, 2014, 12:34:21 AM
I prefer a show that starts on time. especially if theres a lot of bands playing..
I hate when bands take too long between sets to start playing..


Me too. There's nothing more boring than standing around a dank club waiting for dudes to get their shit together. It might seem fun in your early 20's (I'm in a bar/warehouse!) but when you've done it for a few years, the charm wears thin. I want shows to be over around midnight, or even earlier.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 05, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
I've seen some ads like this...

Ad For Drummer Personally Attacks Old Drummer

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WENATCHEE, WA—While announcing the group's search for a new drummer, an ad posted in a music shop Wednesday by local post-hardcore band Machu Picchu appeared to attack both the character and abilities of its last drummer. "Band seeks drummer who can actually keep the beat and show up to practice without fucking complaining about it all the time," read the flyer, which also stated that candidates should own their own drum kit, not be in any other bands, and not be "the kind of jerk who never helps us move the amps when the show's over but still has the nerve to ask for a ride home." "We need someone who won't sit there playing a bunch of loud fills while we're trying to tune up and then fail to find the fucking two and four when it's time to start the song. And seriously, don't storm off in anger just because Joel says you came in too early." The ad went on to specify that if a potential drummer has a girlfriend, that's fine, but if "you start missing shows because her parents are visiting and she wants you to go out to dinner with them, then it's time to man up and just tell Cindy to fuck off."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/ad-for-drummer-personally-attacks-old-drummer,31911/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/ad-for-drummer-personally-attacks-old-drummer,31911/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 05, 2014, 06:01:31 PM
I think I finally grew up to search for some dudes to play some primitive, repetitive and hypnotic stoner/doom, in vein of Acid King or Om. Unfortunately: a) I'm not a very skilled player b) I highly doubt that anyone I know wants to play something like this c) my shitty city is full of thrash metal bands and only one stoner band :D But well, I love to play music, even if I suck at it lol and I hope that maybe I'll be lucky and able to find at least one person who want to play something like this. Closest guy who was interested lives 400 kilometers away :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 05, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
Can you meet some good musicians, and convince them of your vision? Get them to fulfill a role, even temporarily?

Or how about taking the time to teach your friends how to play? It might take three years but that time will fly by.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 05, 2014, 07:13:58 PM
Maybe they could make it their second project and then they get so into it it's their primary one.  Who knows.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 05, 2014, 07:28:41 PM
I'm running sound for an RnB band. Their drummer wasn't there, so I did the sound check on his kit, so after playing for a minute or two while my bud EQ'd and got levels, I stopped and the guitarist and bass player told me I was one of the loudest drummers they have ever heard.

Good or bad, I felt cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 05, 2014, 07:44:04 PM
People that don't play "our" kind of music always think "we" play too loud.  I had a guy on another forum a few years ago told me there was no where outside of a stadium that I could play with my Marshall or Orange dimed. :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on April 05, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
lol, yeah those kind of people just don't get it. I think it' funny when those same people claim to play hard rock or "heavy". Pussies.

That being said, sometimes you can influence them or at least open their eyes a little. Not all squares are destined to stay that way. If not for guys like us, they might never get an opportunity to witness real heavy.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 05, 2014, 09:44:31 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/06/y8abuvy2.jpg)

Too much computer for me. I don't like running this type of shit... Shit i can't fix on my own.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 05, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
Yeah. They get crazy over one foot triplets and shit which I did a bunch of at full force volume. This dude plays heel down.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 06, 2014, 01:01:42 AM
No fuckin power in that and talk about a good way to get fatigued.  I guess you could just tap your foot.  ???
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Post by: VOLVO))) on April 06, 2014, 02:40:45 AM
That's what he was doing, for sure. His drums sounded alright.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on April 06, 2014, 04:23:52 AM
drunk bullshit, edited
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Post by: jibberish on April 06, 2014, 07:19:58 AM
^haha. I got a laugh out of it. you should have left it. automatic pass for slobberknocker faceroll typing.

if I was bigshot millionaire I would buy this for racer x. I think he would put it to some cool use at some high elevation.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on April 06, 2014, 11:03:16 AM
Woh, that is an amazing guitar.
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Post by: RacerX on April 06, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
No shit. I'd play the fuck outta that swirly little bugger.

Looks like a Mandola body with a guitar neck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 06, 2014, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: Omlet on April 05, 2014, 06:01:31 PM
I think I finally grew up to search for some dudes to play some primitive, repetitive and hypnotic stoner/doom, in vein of Acid King or Om. Unfortunately: a) I'm not a very skilled player b) I highly doubt that anyone I know wants to play something like this 

next step once you have the band is to find fans :)  I am a very moderate guitarist so my vision is to play bass in a band that encompasses less repetitiveness and build up my chops and practice with fretlight

then I will have skills to slice and dice

also I am saving for roland vdrums, then I can produce my own albums at my apartment and with jamhub can have practices there at low volumes :)  that oughta recruit some good musicians for my musical vision of heavy/doom/sludge

here emo and certain extreme metal bands are popular, but the cycle revolves hopefully back to blues and heavy rock :)

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Post by: Omlet on April 06, 2014, 05:39:04 PM
Probably tomorrow ill meet up with the guy who is interested in playing something. I was positively surprised that he contacted me today and wants to talk about playing just tomorrow - the last dude was unable to meet up for three weeks or sth - actually we never met each other :F

BTW i asked a dude who is making a stompboxes about the meathead copy and he said that with custom graphics it will cost me 140 zl, which is about... 45 bucks :D
as far as i know guy is pretty good at it - lots of people have prdered a isp decimator copies from him and were satisfied with results.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 06, 2014, 06:06:02 PM
Ask your stompbox guy if he recommends a Meathead Dark (umm, darker) or Meathead Deluxe for you (more knobs for tone shaping). He might be able to recommend a version for you, if you tell him what you're trying to do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 06, 2014, 06:17:04 PM
I will ask him but probably he will not know :D aside of effects building he's more into djent and other sterile and overproduced technical stuff than some dirty primitive soundwalls ...

100 posts? Uhh :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on April 06, 2014, 06:45:57 PM
"Dirty, primitive sound walls." I like that. That may be the best description I've ever heard of what I/we are trying to do here. I'll steal that, if you don't mind!
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Post by: AgentofOblivion on April 06, 2014, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on April 04, 2014, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on April 04, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
My first and only fuzz I've owned is the Earthquaker Devices Hoof.  I've found that unless I'm running it into a super clean channel, it's basically useless in a live setting.  It sounds great, but you can't hear it for shit in the mix.  I don't know if this is a fuzz thing in general, or something with this pedal.  I've tweaked the knobs endlessly but no matter what the guys always say, "Did something cut out?  I couldn't hear you," and the guys NEVER say that.  I don't use a multi-channel amp and therefore typically don't have a super clean channel available to me, so the pedal is basically useless.  I guess this means it's for sale. 

i think it is indeed a "fuzz thing in general". Lots of fuzzes sound awesome solo, but you disappear in a band setting, or they start sounding horrible through a loud amp. Standard variety Big Muffs are especially bad at getting muddy, IMO. Check out a Meathead (there are clones around) or any kind of Superfuzz variant. The Superfuzzes seem to have tons of fuzzy texture but seem to retain note definition. Meatheads too. Superfuzzes may be slightly too retro/60's sounding for your tastes, YMMV. Meatheads sound vicious and fairly modern IMO. Mud seems to be the enemy here. You can definitely find a fuzz that suits you though. Just depends on what you need it to do, what your playing style is, etc.

Interesting.  I love the tone of the Truckfighters, but when I read up on the gear they use it's just a Russian Muff with one of the knobs hard-wired to 10 or something.  Maybe they run it into a clean channel?  I think you're right though, the solution is to just buy more fuzz pedals  :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 06, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
Everybody's into different stuff here, some of you guys like chugga chugga metal, other people like long sustained doom, etc. Those people need different fuzzes IMO.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on April 06, 2014, 11:46:08 PM
Quote from: jibberish on April 06, 2014, 07:19:58 AM
^haha. I got a laugh out of it. you should have left it. automatic pass for slobberknocker faceroll typing.

if I was bigshot millionaire I would buy this for racer x. I think he would put it to some cool use at some high elevation.
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Sweet! I'll sell my car and pick that up, if my car is worth anything.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 07, 2014, 03:14:41 AM
Quote from: justJon on April 06, 2014, 06:45:57 PM
"Dirty, primitive sound walls." I like that. That may be the best description I've ever heard of what I/we are trying to do here. I'll steal that, if you don't mind!
Feel free to use it whenever you want :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on April 07, 2014, 06:59:10 AM
I play bass and like (modded) guitar fuzzes more, go figure ;)

So I hear today from a friend that our synth guy quit his job 2 weeks ago and we haven't heard from him in a while. He was still keen on playing with us but was busy with his job so we -drummer and I- hashed out the songs and he would let us know when he was able to join us again so now I feel bummed that he didn't let us know he was ready to rehearse again.
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Post by: moose23 on April 08, 2014, 05:38:44 AM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on April 07, 2014, 06:59:10 AM
I play bass and like (modded) guitar fuzzes more, go figure ;)

So I hear today from a friend that our synth guy quit his job 2 weeks ago and we haven't heard from him in a while. He was still keen on playing with us but was busy with his job so we -drummer and I- hashed out the songs and he would let us know when he was able to join us again so now I feel bummed that he didn't let us know he was ready to rehearse again.
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Aren't all bass fuzzes modded guitar fuzzes?

That's shit about the synth player.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on April 08, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
Here's the finished segment for the radio interview/spotlight thingy.  He did a good job of editing I think.

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/rowsdowerband/kdhx-local-artist-spotlight[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 08, 2014, 01:15:17 PM
Jammed with that guy on Sunday.  No immediate sparks but not totally terrible either.  I'll give another couple go's and if nothing happens then I'll cut it off.  Or maybe he will before that :D
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Post by: RacerX on April 08, 2014, 02:29:18 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on April 08, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
Here's the finished segment for the radio interview/spotlight thingy.  He did a good job of editing I think.

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/rowsdowerband/kdhx-local-artist-spotlight[/soundcloud]

Yeah, it came out well. I've also been enjoying Rowsdower's music—good stuff!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on April 08, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
Quote from: moose23 on April 08, 2014, 05:38:44 AM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on April 07, 2014, 06:59:10 AM
I play bass and like (modded) guitar fuzzes more, go figure ;)

So I hear today from a friend that our synth guy quit his job 2 weeks ago and we haven't heard from him in a while. He was still keen on playing with us but was busy with his job so we -drummer and I- hashed out the songs and he would let us know when he was able to join us again so now I feel bummed that he didn't let us know he was ready to rehearse again.

Aren't all bass fuzzes modded guitar fuzzes?

That's shit about the synth player.
Yeah, you're probably right about the fuzzes and it's not like my DOD250 & Superfuzz are lacking in bass. I invited the synth guy for our next rehearsal (just very casually), he's coming so we'll see on thursday wether or not he stays or goes.
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Post by: AgentofOblivion on April 08, 2014, 04:46:06 PM
Thanks!
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Post by: Omlet on April 08, 2014, 05:54:50 PM
Okay, I've found one guy who wants to play some primitive stoner doom and probably he knows a bassist. As we played together for about one hour today (with one shitty amp lol) and we know each other for about three days, well, we'll see.
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Post by: everdrone on April 09, 2014, 12:15:59 AM
I am not the most tech-savvy dude in the world but I spent tonight doing a selfie of 8 cover songs and uploading to youtube, trying to land a spot (and land an audition ;) ) in a rock cover band:



(1) Stone Temple Pilots - Sex Type Thing (2) Stone Temple Pilots - Plush (3) Billy Idol - Rebel Yell (4) AC/DC - you Shook Me All Night (5) Bon Jovi - you Give Love a Bad Name (6) Cheap Trick - Surrender (7) Alice in Chains - Man in a Box (8) Collective Soul - Heavy
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 09, 2014, 12:29:46 AM
Drums are done for Ocean of Stars 4-song demo.

My guy Ric nailed it all in 2.5 hours and getting it done by the second take, if it needed it.

Gonna be real interesting hearing the same songs recorded on the same gear with similar recording techniques but played by other people this time \m/,

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Post by: mutantcolors on April 09, 2014, 12:34:22 AM
No dis, just curious, why mic the ported kick away from the port? Never seen that before.
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Post by: Danny G on April 09, 2014, 12:57:10 AM
Cause the D112 would barely fit in the small hole (insert joke there) and after several minutes dicking with it and trying diff mics, that's the only way of micing it where it didn't sound like a bouncing basketball.

Weird.


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Post by: jibberish on April 09, 2014, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on April 06, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
Everybody's into different stuff here, some of you guys like chugga chugga metal, other people like long sustained doom, etc. Those people need different fuzzes IMO.

THAT's why there needs to be a "Mausoleum" which is a "Sarcophagus" plus that 3rd fuzz mr pharaoh makes, all in one. see. i'm ahead of the curve. heh.


and don't worry dogfood, for any permanent changes to the electric box and wires, I will follow code.  I don't move fast, but I sling an assload of ideas around along the way.  try do do all my failing on paper.  actually you may be able to help me out just by the fact that you are an electrician. i'll explain after you get up here.
ps, don't try the cops in Strongsville. they are just looking for someone to fuck with. they are a rich department in a city full of PC hotshots that people like sarah palin made sure she came to visit.

so I will string a couple extension cords to emulate the final power runs and just not fire everything up all at once. then I can fix the really warped trim beams and call it a wrap.  Then I will take some pics and maybe make a tele video to celebrate omlet's new baby. heh. why not. there are so many fun pile-on music things that could be done.

the video thread I want to see is the one where everyone has to play a keyboard or a violin. and those chumlies that can play both have to play something on a banjo or worst of all .... a flute

edit: dammit , I was soooo stoked to hear rebel yell, then tell you I like his whole backing band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 09, 2014, 09:36:25 AM
Fuck. Found a drummer.

120 km away :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 09, 2014, 12:57:39 PM
My life may not be perfect, but at least my cats pretty much ignore my guitar playing...


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 09, 2014, 01:19:13 PM
at 1:30 thats awesome when the cat is gnawing on your picking hand!!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D         >:(!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 09, 2014, 01:39:26 PM
Dude is still shredding like nothing while his cat bites his picking hand. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 09, 2014, 02:44:17 PM
For several days I'm considering exchanging my Skervesen Vaptor for the 4001... Fortunately I'm not still sure if the guy wants to trade it!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 10, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
How to get your band's promotional email deleted (how not to promote your band):

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2014/04/how-to-get-your-promotional-e-mail-deleted/ (http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2014/04/how-to-get-your-promotional-e-mail-deleted/)
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Post by: khoomeizhi on April 10, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
we pulled off a pretty awesome show on tuesday at a little place in a nearby town, pop. 900. the spot is kind of a warehouse, being turned into a microbrewery (but not open yet), that backs on both a traintrack and the waterfall wall of a dam in the river there. had way more people than we expected, almost 100 paid the (cheap) door, mostly from asheville. $1 cans of pbr and $2 shots of old crow, and the alcohol was gone by the end of the first band. got more. somewhat mixed lineup, everybody got paid, the crowd was super receptive. no noise complaints/police, 'cause the dam and the frequent freight trains. actually had trains go past during two bands, ten feet away. total exciting party vibe. makes me wonder why we don't play out more often, though i mostly know the answer.

credit where credit's due, it was all orchestrated by my wife/guitarist, though i did buy the 216 beers. fun though.
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Post by: mutantcolors on April 10, 2014, 05:35:17 PM
Sadly playing out is rarely that great of an event. Those once in a decade occurrences make it worth it though.
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Post by: Omlet on April 10, 2014, 05:58:05 PM
Damn, still need a drummer :D But probably we've found a bass player.

I hope that we will start jamming together next week.
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Post by: Lumpy on April 10, 2014, 06:23:05 PM
That sounds like an awesome show.
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Post by: RAGER on April 10, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
That indeed sounds like a damn good time.
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Post by: dogfood on April 10, 2014, 06:57:21 PM
Yeah, kudos on the show.  I will file that shit away under "atypical venue"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on April 10, 2014, 07:03:30 PM
Hell yeah, Khoom, sounds like what we all live for. Downtown Music in Little Cock had that vibe for several years, it's a wonderful thing (and rare as whale shit)
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Post by: khoomeizhi on April 10, 2014, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on April 10, 2014, 05:35:17 PM
Sadly playing out is rarely that great of an event. Those once in a decade occurrences make it worth it though.

so maybe playing once every year-and-eight-months like we've been doing is about right. keep a decent average, and all.  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 11, 2014, 01:34:54 PM
After a long period of woodshedding, I've finally gotten the hang of fingerpicking. I barely even use my nails anymore except for when I want a more "picky" sound—just the fingertips. The calluses on the thumb & first 2 fingers on my picking hand are finally thick enough to pick for an hour or more.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 12, 2014, 06:17:48 PM
I'm seriously considering starting yet another music project, this time some accoustic/slightly overdriven doomy soundscapes without any percussion. I think that riffs will be almost totally black metal style (in vein of early Ulver and mid-Darkthrone), of course very repetitive and slowly played.

Or maybe I'll just merge my black metal project with something like this. Probably it's not really important thing but I'm not sure yet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 12, 2014, 06:29:51 PM
You just solved your 'no-drummer' problem. Do it!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 12, 2014, 09:59:46 PM
doomy soundscapes.
maybe one of us synth clowns can make you some stuff

here is my demo tape for my audition to join to join your Black Mambient audio revolution haha

it starts with a track of cool fail FM I recorded. I can post just the raw fm noise track if you ever want it for something you are doing.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 13, 2014, 01:26:13 PM
Ocean of Stars demo moving right along.

Drums done on Tuesday, bass done on Thursday. Both Ric and Melanie sounded great. Tracking sax this coming Tuesday. Then I'll do guitars after that.

Even with scratch guitar and no sax, already sounding awesome.

I love my little digi 8 track. Once I clear some room on it we can record like this all the time.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 13, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
I have been spending some time with that egnator tweaker 15 amp. I wanted to run the 16ohm tap like the egnator 1x12 was, so I used the 12" from my kustom 30w combo in series with the 8" woofer from a 30w shit bass combo. I flipped the speaker outside the box and wired it reverse to increase the box volume and drop the resonance. this 2 speaker combo is loud as fuck haha. I have no relative comparison as to whether these speakers sound bad, but they sound pretty good to me.
the egnator 1x12 with that celestion sounded great, but not $250 great.

I went to egnator's website and looked at recommended tone settings. all of theirs have the bass turned up some or all the way. I was killing it with the tones flat. just switching between tone stacks still made obvious changes. This thing has separate Marshall, Fender and vox tone stacks.  
then there is a gain booster. with it off, the whole range is pretty low gain. my LP and its pickup hotness dig this. the LP just blows the little 2 tube greta away on the input. then to really get hi-gain, flip the switch and it has a range more like the greta. another switch to tighten up the sound by killing some bass, and other switches too like to put a subtle scoop on to make it sound bigger and so on.

then throw in the next variable: all my guitars sound totally different anyway, then this. i'll be busy for years.....

bottom line: this little shit is going to be a tough one to beat unless I need more sheer volume. i would like to play with a tiny terror now and put them both to the test.

edit: wish Schecter used that tube guide whammy rig that Suhr uses. i saw the demo. what a great whammy. those fucking guitars are not cheap so i want that whammy on my Schecter haha.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on April 13, 2014, 05:22:26 PM
I don't understand why Suhr guitars are so expensive. I understand better material quality, but I know even the highest grades of wood don't take a four hundred dollar guitar and make it 2.5k. I know it's more than wood but realistically, im sure most people, if they were handed a suhr blindfolded, and a fender (set up properly,) they wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 13, 2014, 08:41:55 PM
Just spent most of the day tracking our first demo. 6 songs, about an hour of doom/sludge. Just a live room, one track guitar, one track bass, two tracks drums (from about 6 mikes). Two tracks of overdubbed vocals. We only paid $100 for about 9 hours. And unfortunately it sounds like it only cost $100. Hopefully a few hours of mixing will make it sound a little bigger. Right now it's kinda compressed.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on April 13, 2014, 08:55:12 PM
I always double track guitars and bass, and usually send guitars down 70/30 30/70, and send the bass about 15 right or left. Lotsa big
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 13, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
Yeah, been thinking about doing another guitar track at least. Dollars versus sound quality.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 14, 2014, 12:49:28 AM
I was thinking about looking for plastic dummy plugs for pedalboard and amp inputs I'm not using to keep out dust and dirt and to eliminate the chances of me accidently plugging into them when I'm quickly setting up at gigs and then I thought, duh, put tape over them ya dingus. Any of you tape over your unused gear buttholes?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 14, 2014, 01:23:47 AM
i don't, but I heard a pretty good idea for this (maybe here? Jibberish?): Use cheap foam earplugs. Maybe you can buy them in bulk?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on April 14, 2014, 04:56:36 AM
best price: walmart hunting section.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 14, 2014, 05:54:57 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 14, 2014, 12:49:28 AM
I was thinking about looking for plastic dummy plugs for pedalboard and amp inputs I'm not using to keep out dust and dirt and to eliminate the chances of me accidently plugging into them when I'm quickly setting up at gigs and then I thought, duh, put tape over them ya dingus. Any of you tape over your unused gear buttholes?

that wasn't my cool idea, but I definitely started the ball rolling talking about covering all my user surface gear with plastic, especially vertical mixer 1/4" jacks. they literally fill up with shit, like sticky dust and ....just no. haha

I bet there is some product from like office max that would be cheap and work great.
(my #1 go-to engineering trick is to see if someone already makes something close in another industry, saves mega time/$/R&D)

maybe push pins, some variation on the thumbtack, maybe just a hunk of Styrofoam packing. a stroll through the walmart toy dept after checking out the earplugs, maybe through automotive and the craft section too. never know what one could see that would be perfect.
goal: buy a bag of 100 of these whatevers for $1.79, once they are found heh.
cut off golf tees..that kind of thinking is good for plan B, but ready to use "as is", is the ultimate grail


edit: shit , I haven't actually tried a golf tee. it might go in and even lock in like a 1/4" jack does haha
I definitely have a bunch of RCA jack terminators for pre-amp out/power amp in terminators on preamps and receivers, so there is definitely something specifically for RCA jacks already.

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Post by: VOLVO))) on April 14, 2014, 08:40:01 AM
You could also use 8th to quarter inch adapters.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 14, 2014, 09:16:31 AM
First show with new drummer yesterday.  Killer.  3rd song into our set, a woman standing in front of the stage on my side goes into a seizure and pisses herself.  Gotta say, I've seen some shit over the years but that was freaky
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on April 14, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
Pissing is the line between 'seizure' and 'getting funky'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 14, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
Quote from: the diddler on April 14, 2014, 09:16:31 AM
First show with new drummer yesterday.  Killer.  3rd song into our set, a woman standing in front of the stage on my side goes into a seizure and pisses herself.  Gotta say, I've seen some shit over the years but that was freaky

Sounds like any given Sunday night at Satyricon back in the day. :P
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 14, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
Hah!  I almost punched Novoselic in the Satyricon bathroom.  I've regretted not doing that for years
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 14, 2014, 10:30:38 AM
Had second jam with CL ad guy.  Better this time but still no real sparks.  He left his amp here so I guess I'm stuck giving it another try or two.  Maybe something will happen but I think I'm not quite ready to do a project with somebody just yet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 14, 2014, 11:31:07 AM
Sell his amp, move on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 14, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
It's one o them AC 30 RI's.  Nobody'd want it.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 14, 2014, 11:49:10 AM
Well hook up a kickstarter looking for people to donate to the loss you're taking on that AC30.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 14, 2014, 11:55:05 AM
Teamwork. Solutions. SRL.COM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 14, 2014, 12:02:25 PM
I just had to put an alternator in my Nissan truck.  The alternator was cheap but it took way too long.  I had to remove power steering and radiator hoses to access the damn thing.  I'm good on money.  I just want that time back.  Can I do that?
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Post by: VOLVO))) on April 14, 2014, 01:24:26 PM
Once again, kickstarter.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on April 14, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on April 13, 2014, 05:22:26 PM
I don't understand why Suhr guitars are so expensive. I understand better material quality, but I know even the highest grades of wood don't take a four hundred dollar guitar and make it 2.5k. I know it's more than wood but realistically, im sure most people, if they were handed a suhr blindfolded, and a fender (set up properly,) they wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Name, midnight oil, demand, etc.

Anyone give those reissue Electra Omega's a try-out? They look killer.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 14, 2014, 06:48:53 PM
Okay, all my songs are harsh and primitive (mostly because I'm mediocre guitar player and I don't know shit about mixing and mastering :D) but now my songs have a new "feature" - hiss and noise of my Tele's single coils. And I'm not sure if I like that feature - but probably I'll just live with it :D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on April 14, 2014, 11:27:17 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on April 13, 2014, 08:55:12 PM
send the bass about 15 right or left

QTF
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 15, 2014, 03:16:00 AM
Quote from: Omlet on April 14, 2014, 06:48:53 PM
Okay, all my songs are harsh and primitive (mostly because I'm mediocre guitar player and I don't know shit about mixing and mastering :D) but now my songs have a new "feature" - hiss and noise of my Tele's single coils. And I'm not sure if I like that feature - but probably I'll just live with it :D

heh. you got me laughing.  that's the kind of stuff I figure out the hard way too.
I sort of had misgivings about my blacktop tele, but now that I am used to the sound, I like it. and the bridge pup still sounds tincan like a single coil, even tho it only has un-tapped humbuckers on it. it is quiet, of course.

I made my LP really quiet by wiring it straight from the pup through its vol/tone pots, then out to a jack. bonus was, the whole rig sounds better. yes, my LP has 2 jacks now, one for each pup.

I am definitely a neck pickup fan overall. I am learning this. I always end up there.
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I also like the tone on the guitar of black betty, the original ramjam version. was that an LP-marshall rig? that's what it sounds like, but I still haven't heard 90% of the amps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2014, 04:23:30 AM
90% of the amps today probably weren't around back then, so Marshall is always a good guess \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 15, 2014, 06:57:44 AM
Quote from: jibberish on April 15, 2014, 03:16:00 AM

I am definitely a neck pickup fan overall.
Same here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 15, 2014, 01:50:05 PM
Tax return thoughts... compact 4x12s with loud, high wattage handling neos could be awesome but does anyone make 12" guitar neos that would be good for thick low tuned high gain metal? My 2x12s have Swamp Thangs and I like their tone.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 15, 2014, 01:57:04 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 15, 2014, 01:50:05 PM
Tax return thoughts... compact 4x12s with loud, high wattage handling neos could be awesome but does anyone make 12" guitar neos that would be good for thick low tuned high gain metal? My 2x12s have Swamp Thangs and I like their tone.

I have been saving up for Tonkerlites and lightweight 212s to save my back, but there is always a tonal compromise...  fortunately I am an artist and not a showman attached to an image or volume gimmick :) 

(trying to convince myself not to get another heavy cab)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 15, 2014, 02:36:32 PM
The worst part about sizable moderate to heavy cabs is going through doors and up and down stairs by yourself. I don't go for dragging and sliding.

A stack of three 2x12s could be awesome but I'm not sure how that would work out with power to each cab. Maybe two 16 ohms and one 8? Would each speaker suck the same amount of juice? Four short 2x12s would rule but that's big bucks to order custom.

Have I got everyone rolling their eyes again?  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 15, 2014, 04:56:15 PM
head and 3 cabs is hard to do, hard on the head!  it would prolly be easier to have two stacks:

head and two cabs

head and two cabs

:)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 15, 2014, 07:05:03 PM
Quote from: Omlet on April 15, 2014, 06:57:44 AM
Quote from: jibberish on April 15, 2014, 03:16:00 AM

I am definitely a neck pickup fan overall.
Same here.

I'm a 90/10 bridge/neck type of guy.  All the aggro top end and a nice deep bottom.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2014, 11:37:59 PM
Tracked sax today for Ocean of Stars demo. Most of it done. Sounds awesome \m/,

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Brought a few amps for his pedal board. Settled on the JCM800 running an Ampeg 4x10. Used two tracks, one a straight mic, the other the mic'ed amp rig.

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Left behind piece of drum hardware + broken mic stand boom + duct tape = fully functional mic stand

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 16, 2014, 08:32:03 PM
i set up a discogs store to help sell my labels shit as well as all the trade stuff i have accumulated. if anyone is in need of rare grindcore/noisecore/power electronic vinyl, hit me up.. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 17, 2014, 01:27:52 AM
liquid, try to always think of speakers in powers of 2. so no matter how you divvy them up, you are getting sets of multiples of 2.

1,2,4,8, etc. ohms law works out much better and symmetry is maintained, especially in the "same current/voltage through each speaker" department

the only crazy exception that I am aware of is that crazy 9 speaker array, 3series strings of 3 speakers in parallel. the whole impedance is the same as a single speaker(if all speakers are same of course)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 17, 2014, 02:24:27 AM
I think my Dual Showman can do three cabs at once. I'm assuming each cab would get the same power.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 17, 2014, 07:23:36 AM
Can't decide between practicing my own music, or paying $20 to see Loop tonight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 17, 2014, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on April 17, 2014, 07:23:36 AM
Can't decide between practicing my own music, or paying $20 to see Loop tonight.
do the right thing, your music matters more!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 17, 2014, 12:12:50 PM
Fuck right!  Do what is fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 17, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Gonna call the dude today and pull the plug after 2 jams.  Not feelin it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 17, 2014, 06:43:33 PM
the music room is put together except for the permanent power rewire and the general white overhead lights. neither is a dealbreaker. i have 2 circuits for power and the ambient party lighting is all working. old camera battery is charging for some pictures..this has only been evolving for about 1.5 yrs as i figured out how i really wanted things set up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 18, 2014, 09:40:52 AM
Interview. With me :D In Polish :(

But you may use the google translate to read it if youre interested - i can tpaste the translate link now because i use mh dumbphone not the pc :(

http://noweidzieodmorza.com/5279-perfect-beauty-poleganie-wylacznie-na-sobie-ma-wiecej-zalet-niz-wad

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 18, 2014, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: Omlet on April 18, 2014, 09:40:52 AM
Interview. With me :D In Polish :(

But you may use the google translate to read it if youre interested - i can tpaste the translate link now because i use mh dumbphone not the pc :(

http://noweidzieodmorza.com/5279-perfect-beauty-poleganie-wylacznie-na-sobie-ma-wiecej-zalet-niz-wad



English here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoweidzieodmorza.com%2F5279-perfect-beauty-poleganie-wylacznie-na-sobie-ma-wiecej-zalet-niz-wad&edit-text=&act=url (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoweidzieodmorza.com%2F5279-perfect-beauty-poleganie-wylacznie-na-sobie-ma-wiecej-zalet-niz-wad&edit-text=&act=url)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on April 20, 2014, 12:57:56 PM
My band got signed :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 20, 2014, 02:14:29 PM
Quote from: showdown on April 20, 2014, 12:57:56 PM
My band got signed :)
Congratulations! :)
I never tried to find a label for my music, I don't think it's good enough :( I had some proposal of the small cassette release and I thought that everything is going fine with it but guys are remaining silent for 2 months or so...

Also, I'm into making even more primitive and repetitive music right now, so I'm afraid that no one except me will like this shit :D:D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2014, 04:07:52 PM
I'm in the same position. That's why I hide out in my basement for hours. I'm great entertainment.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on April 20, 2014, 08:41:54 PM
No disrespect intended Showdown, but when I hear that I immediately think "Haha,  . that's gonna suck". I know there are still beneficial situations between bands and....not bands, but that's dwindling before our eyes
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on April 20, 2014, 09:42:50 PM
I'm interested in purchasing a new guitar, and so I've been looking at this 1986 Ibanez Roadstar RG135.  I haven't been by the shop to try it out yet.  Any one know any stories behind these guitars, or the year?  I almost pulled the trigger on a Blazer once, regret it to this day.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 20, 2014, 10:16:04 PM
I started my own label and signed my band. not sure if that counts.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 20, 2014, 10:34:10 PM
If you don't describe it as such, totally ;)

I've released 3 solo albums with Hobbit Hole Records heh


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 20, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Bloody Cash Records here. Very obscure label. Virtually unheard of.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 20, 2014, 10:38:25 PM
do you want to sign my band??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 21, 2014, 03:33:37 AM
Uhh I totally forgot that there's a dude who want to release my synthwave EP on the tape, so I was wrong :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 21, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
I won't sign your band unless I'm in it. And you pay for everything.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 21, 2014, 11:34:11 PM
Quote from: Danny G on April 21, 2014, 08:44:00 AM
I won't sign your band unless I'm in it. And you pay for everything.


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I was actually referring to ragers bloody cash records.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 22, 2014, 01:07:23 AM
Heh. Worth a shot ;)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 22, 2014, 04:07:58 AM
A friend of mine recorded our last set with his phone. It's clipped pretty bad and muffled but it's cool to hear the crowd around him clapping and wooing after each song. On stage it seems a lot more sparse and of course quiet with earplugs in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 22, 2014, 05:49:16 AM
Quote from: johnny problem on April 20, 2014, 09:42:50 PM
I'm interested in purchasing a new guitar, and so I've been looking at this 1986 Ibanez Roadstar RG135.  I haven't been by the shop to try it out yet.  Any one know any stories behind these guitars, or the year?  I almost pulled the trigger on a Blazer once, regret it to this day.

My first electric was an '85 Roadstar I bought new with paper route money.  It was a great guitar- still around somewhere, absolutely beat to shit and with a different neck on it.  Definitely go check it out- could be a good grab if the price is right
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on April 22, 2014, 09:05:40 PM
Price on this thing is great. $200 CDN.  Plus, I know for a fact this thing has been sitting in the shop for a minimum of 2 years.  So $150 cash will be my price.  I've got time to play this thing on Thursday.  Thanks for your input, Diddler!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on April 24, 2014, 01:15:14 AM
Got the invite I was hoping for to join a particular band on drums. Add that to also being the new bass player for The Reptilians and finally getting the fuck out of college here in 3 weeks is going to kick major ass.
http://thereptilians.bandcamp.com/ (http://thereptilians.bandcamp.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 24, 2014, 03:43:45 AM
Sax, drums and bass done for Ocean of Stars demo EP

Tracking guitar on Friday.

By itself, holy shitballs this sounds fuckin crazy awesome.

Regardless whether you like the music or not, this is gonna blow some minds.


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Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on April 24, 2014, 09:27:11 AM
Thinking about selling my soul and joining a popular cover band that plays casinos. It won't be much fun but I am having a real hard time turning down an extra 800 bucks a month.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 24, 2014, 11:12:49 AM
That is something to consider.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Discö Rice on April 24, 2014, 11:47:43 AM
Cover bands are getting sued these days. Be careful.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 25, 2014, 12:17:53 AM
diy music wiki is cool as fuck..
http://www.diymusicwiki.com/ (http://www.diymusicwiki.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 25, 2014, 12:56:47 AM
Interesting. But it has maybe hundreds of screamo bands and exactly three death metal bands listed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 25, 2014, 01:04:23 AM
I like it for its noisecore/grindcore/power violence sections..
they really need a power electronic/HNW category..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on April 25, 2014, 08:58:17 AM
Looked into a practice space last week, looking into another one next week to compare and contrast.

In a city full of old mills and garages, you'd think there'd be more options available than storage places looking to make a buck...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 25, 2014, 11:21:55 AM
The new Floor album is fucking sick. Sick.





Sick.



Like, sick.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on April 25, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: Jake on April 25, 2014, 11:21:55 AM
The new Floor album is fucking sick. Sick.





Sick.



Like, sick.

Sounds sic [sic].
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 25, 2014, 03:42:49 PM
Yes! And Sikh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on April 25, 2014, 05:02:39 PM
I just realized I have sixty one tracks uploaded on my yt channel, all made by me :D

And probably I have about 10-15 still unpublished songs...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on April 25, 2014, 05:44:41 PM
I'm trying out vocalists for an online collaboration right now, so I can do something with songs I'm writing by myself at home. Man, it is difficult in this type of situation with no other band mates to bounce opinions off of. When you audition people in person they can show up and suck, be great or anywhere in between and totally come off unprepared or fake their way through it. Trying people out online adds a different dimension entirely, because they really can't be lazy or a flake at all. They have to supply lyrics, record a track and send it in to even audition. Adding that into the mix of gathering an opinion on it makes it hard to separate out pure musical taste. Someone could be good at what their doing, I might not dig it or not be certain it's a perfect fit for the music, but I would feel totally bad rejecting them because they obviously have great work ethic and motivation, which makes for a great band mate. If they didn't have that I wouldn't even be hearing their audition at all.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on April 25, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: xayk on April 25, 2014, 08:58:17 AM
Looked into a practice space last week, looking into another one next week to compare and contrast.

In a city full of old mills and garages, you'd think there'd be more options available than storage places looking to make a buck...

It's a good racket but not as easy as you might think. Takes some know how and $$$ to construct a room that is not an acoustic atrocity, both internally and for sound transfer to adjacent spaces.

Oh and you have to give a shit about music to take it to that level. Most people don't. Tell me where you live and I'll investigate setting up shop there. True story.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on April 25, 2014, 08:17:02 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on April 25, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: xayk on April 25, 2014, 08:58:17 AM
Looked into a practice space last week, looking into another one next week to compare and contrast.

In a city full of old mills and garages, you'd think there'd be more options available than storage places looking to make a buck...

It's a good racket but not as easy as you might think. Takes some know how and $$$ to construct a room that is not an acoustic atrocity, both internally and for sound transfer to adjacent spaces.

Oh and you have to give a shit about music to take it to that level. Most people don't. Tell me where you live and I'll investigate setting up shop there. True story.


You run a rehearsal space, no?  How do you deal with people who want to live there?  Have asked you that before?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 25, 2014, 08:27:26 PM
My buddy owns this place.  http://reverbrehearsal.com/  Pretty sure he has that scenario expressed in the contract everyone signs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 25, 2014, 11:43:38 PM
jammed with a guitarist/singer and drummer last night.  guitarist just laid down a riff or two and once I got it down on bass, he just soloed like for 15 minutes for each song.  bad acoustics, so even with my 212 bass amp on a stand angled at my head, I loose my note.

I stopped weightlifting and only do cardio and swimming now, and make sure to play guitar or bass every day of course.  I do iso exercises and stretch before/after playing and am eating super healthy.  I am noticing no soreness and feeling better all around, so I am happy about that; will be finishing off a new song soon.  I put some songs for free download on bandcamp; I am thinking maybe bandcamp is better to get my stuff out there, cause my songs have been downloaded only twice from soundcloud anywayz  ???  maybe better sound quality at least.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 26, 2014, 12:29:56 AM
Tracked guitar today for Ocean of Stars demo EP

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on April 26, 2014, 08:42:46 PM
played a fun house show last night with my band, CV. The touring band was a really cool noise/industrial punk band from oakland, called Mansion. Check em out here...http://mmansionn.bandcamp.com/album/mansion (http://mmansionn.bandcamp.com/album/mansion)

Next saturday we're playing with Dah Wyrdoz, who are billed as party rock and has the drummer from Stone Axe and the bassist from Mos Generator, who are brothers evidently. Looks like they dress up like freaks, the same as us, so it should be a good time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 27, 2014, 01:11:17 AM
Sweet!  Mikey has run sound for my band in the past at Winterland up in Bremerton and Scooter is a rad bass player.  Should be a good time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 27, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
After years of being convinced that the idea of a high-mass bridge increasing sustain is highly overblown, I have been humbled. I just put a fancy pants Schaller bridge on my Telebastard Deluxe, and the sustain is almost supernatural. And I didn't even buy it for any other reasons besides I more flexibility in intonating and needed a top loading bridge. What an awesome surprise the ridiculous sustain is. Thank you, German engineering.

(http://www.soundland.de/catalog/images/products/tn/21/216471-500x333.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on April 27, 2014, 08:16:31 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on April 25, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
It's a good racket but not as easy as you might think. Takes some know how and $$$ to construct a room that is not an acoustic atrocity, both internally and for sound transfer to adjacent spaces.

Oh and you have to give a shit about music to take it to that level. Most people don't. Tell me where you live and I'll investigate setting up shop there. True story.

I'm sure doing it right takes time/knowledge/money/etc, for sure. Cool that you run spaces and that you care!

I'm in Pittsburgh.



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 27, 2014, 09:38:52 PM
Al Cisnero's Matamp slave unit on Ebay - used on Dopesmoker and part of Holy Mountain.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201079939409#viTabs_0 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/201079939409#viTabs_0)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 27, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
Current bid:US $4,150.00   ::)


Also, nice bridge Jake.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 27, 2014, 11:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jake on April 27, 2014, 02:14:58 PM
After years of being convinced that the idea of a high-mass bridge increasing sustain is highly overblown, I have been humbled. I just put a fancy pants Schaller bridge on my Telebastard Deluxe, and the sustain is almost supernatural. And I didn't even buy it for any other reasons besides I more flexibility in intonating and needed a top loading bridge. What an awesome surprise the ridiculous sustain is. Thank you, German engineering.

(http://www.soundland.de/catalog/images/products/tn/21/216471-500x333.jpg)
ive had a badass bass bridge on my fender jazz pretty much since I bought it in 1992..it was installed with in a month on me buying the bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 27, 2014, 11:44:30 PM
It sounds like my diagonal 2x12s are just barely big enough to be converted to 4x12s if I order new baffles. I get that small 4x12s aren't as loud as big 4x12s but they'll still be quite a bit louder.

I'd like to add 2 neos to each but which model? What would be a good fit for Swamp Thangs? Those are 150 watts and 102db each. Is this a terrible idea? If I didn't hate heavy cabs I'd just add more Swamps because they rule.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 28, 2014, 12:25:29 AM
What about buying a bigger car, or a van? Or renting a van when you play shows? Instead of trying to reach your goals while compromising on gear size. Trying to have a monstrous sound isn't about being practical.

Bigger cabs = better bass response. If you stick two additional speakers in your existing cab, will you lose some bass response? I dunno, interesting question. At some point there are diminishing returns, I don't know where that point is. You could try asking Eminence for some tech support on that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 28, 2014, 12:59:20 AM
Okay I'll email Eminence. I originally went with Swamps on their suggestion. For neos it's one of two models from them.

Ideally I'd probably use two 4x15s or four 4x12s  ;D

More speakers in the cabs I already have will allow for better tone at equal to somewhat louder volumes, I have little doubt about that even if I'd be better off with normal size 4x12s.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on April 28, 2014, 05:55:11 AM
Our synth player sorta disappeared from the world.. The last time I saw him he was very mentally unstable, rambling about the fact the mother of his girlfriend was calling him because he may or may not have been violent with his girl. He's a bit unstable anyway but this time it felt like he was reeling over the edge.. We were gonna rehearse last week and after wednesday he dropped of the face of the earth. Hasn't come on fb, texts don't even get delivered, phone goes straight to voicemail. He was supposed to help out at a show yesterday evening, didn't show up and didn't answer texts. In the end his girl texted to tell he was sick.

This situation just sucks because we're getting ready to play out and he's clearly some place else... Luckily the drummer feels the same way so we asked another synth player if she wanted to jam, she's into it so that's good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 28, 2014, 09:01:23 AM
Bummer, dude. No reason having people involved who aren't into it, though, so you made the right choice.

I'm off all week on staycation; today & tomorrow I'll be doing some recording at my buddy Rich's place.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on April 28, 2014, 10:41:17 AM
Since last week I've been doing a massive music related spring cleaning. If I haven't played something in over a year, it gets sold. Sold a 410 bass cab (still have 4 other bass cabs!), my '80 SG and now I've got my Beta Bass and my PRRI on the chopping block. I've got a couple basses I probably should put up too, but I do actually use all of em...just sporadically. Still have a ton of pedals too, but I keep those around for recording (me or other people).
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 28, 2014, 11:00:55 AM
I need to sell this Ampeg and Beta lead so i can buy more toys.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on April 28, 2014, 11:11:59 AM
Jake, if you put that Beta Lead up on the ILF Doom Room it'd probably sell in a day.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 29, 2014, 12:45:54 PM
Mostly setting up/getting levels yesterday in the studio, but did manage to cut one guitar track.

Everything lies in readiness for the long split session today.

The eventual goal is getting 5 originals & 2 covers recorded & mixed, so I'm hoping to get a lot closer to that by the end of the day.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 29, 2014, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on April 28, 2014, 11:11:59 AM
Jake, if you put that Beta Lead up on the ILF Doom Room it'd probably sell in a day.

I don't post there, I posted it in the FB group and got no bites, if you want to post it up for me there, Ill hug you - winkwink-
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on April 29, 2014, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on April 29, 2014, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on April 28, 2014, 11:11:59 AM
Jake, if you put that Beta Lead up on the ILF Doom Room it'd probably sell in a day.

I don't post there, I posted it in the FB group and got no bites, if you want to post it up for me there, Ill hug you - winkwink-

Do you have a CL link? If so I'll post it up there, there's a CL/ebay lookout thread.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 29, 2014, 03:29:21 PM
http://tallahassee.craigslist.org/msg/4412815796.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on April 29, 2014, 03:55:54 PM
I posted it up over there, hopefully you get some bites. I've had some good luck on my gear purge so far and more stuff to sell, I could use the good gear karma  ;)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 29, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
Thank u papi


I also have an Ampeg b25b if someone wants the beta.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 29, 2014, 10:49:24 PM
I'd buy that Beta if'n it was a head. I can't be chopping every combo down, contrary to popular belief. Heh.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 29, 2014, 10:50:38 PM
You know I can send you the head portion, right? I have a nonhoused one here.

Any interest in a jcm800 i already sold and bought back twice?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 30, 2014, 04:40:47 AM
Somebody please tell me these are crap.. I want to order 4 of them. 15x29.5x13 isn't huge but it isn't tiny. Assuming standard speaker prices, loaded Avatars are still about $100 more although their dimensions are 21x28.5x12. Tolex is an extra $30 but black carpet doesn't bother me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G212STcp-E-2x12-Dual-12-Straight-Guitar-Speaker-Cabinet-Empty-/251012383810?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71810442

(http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!ByZ8-1!BGk~$(KGrHqUOKjEEw()KsUq!BMRkHpS3sw~~_12.JPG)


edit: Found their website- http://www.440live.com
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 30, 2014, 08:01:08 AM
I'll be all over that Beta if i get the job I think I'm going to get this week.  Sold one a year ago and been regretting it since
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 30, 2014, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: the diddler on April 30, 2014, 08:01:08 AM
I'll be all over that Beta if i get the job I think I'm going to get this week.  Sold one a year ago and been regretting it since

Holler, How's your life quest been? you've been scarce!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on April 30, 2014, 09:30:22 AM
Yeah- just trying to get back into the workforce.  Ups and downs.  Been playing a bit- pretty happy with the new-ish band at least.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on April 30, 2014, 10:47:29 AM
Everyone on ILF Doom sub forum is all over your ad Jake, hopefully someone actually pulls the trigger. I would throw my Beta Bass head up for sale here, but I'm already holding it for a Talkbass/FB friend. If that falls through for some reason I might list it on here though.

Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 30, 2014, 04:40:47 AM
Somebody please tell me these are crap.. I want to order 4 of them. 15x29.5x13 isn't huge but it isn't tiny. Assuming standard speaker prices, loaded Avatars are still about $100 more although their dimensions are 21x28.5x12. Tolex is an extra $30 but black carpet doesn't bother me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G212STcp-E-2x12-Dual-12-Straight-Guitar-Speaker-Cabinet-Empty-/251012383810?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a71810442

(http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!ByZ8-1!BGk~$(KGrHqUOKjEEw()KsUq!BMRkHpS3sw~~_12.JPG)


edit: Found their website- http://www.440live.com

It looks like it's made out of semi-decent plywood, not boogerboard at least, and it's got some internal bracing. Personally I hate ratfur on cabs, but it's not a bad price for a new unloaded 2x12 cab shipped. Looks like they've got tolex ones for about $30 more. Better prices than Avatar, dunno how the quality compares. They might be the same cabs for all I know, I'm pretty sure Avatar subs all that stuff out.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 30, 2014, 10:56:08 AM
Yeah seriously, I wouldn't mind the cash. I think it's time to buy a motorcycle
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 30, 2014, 11:35:39 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/30/ga5yheny.jpg)

Retracked a few solos for Ocean of Stars demo EP using the Lead 12 at home. The existing ones using my stage rig weren't cutting through the over all mix very well. 

Much improved.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 30, 2014, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on April 30, 2014, 10:47:29 AM
It looks like it's made out of semi-decent plywood, not boogerboard at least, and it's got some internal bracing. Personally I hate ratfur on cabs, but it's not a bad price for a new unloaded 2x12 cab shipped. Looks like they've got tolex ones for about $30 more. Better prices than Avatar, dunno how the quality compares. They might be the same cabs for all I know, I'm pretty sure Avatar subs all that stuff out.

The removable back panels are an extra $16 which would probably be necessary for rear mounting of the speakers. I'd prefer 16 or 17" high but for the price I think I could live with 15. The advantage with Avatar is if you want them loaded you get a crazy good price per speaker because they buy in extreme bulk. I found a few other cheap plywood cab companies-

http://www.jetcityamplification.com/#!american-custom-cabinets/cd6r

http://www.studio7speakers.com/products.html (probably made in Asia)

http://www.trmguitarcabs.com/unfinished-cabs.html


I'm 99% sure my ridiculous four 2x12s stack idea is going to become reality.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 30, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 30, 2014, 02:09:50 PM

I'm 99% sure my ridiculous four 2x12s stack idea is going to become reality.

I wholeheartedly support the tetris leggo stack :)  I need onez tooz :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 01, 2014, 03:07:31 AM
Quote from: everdrone on April 30, 2014, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 30, 2014, 02:09:50 PM

I'm 99% sure my ridiculous four 2x12s stack idea is going to become reality.

I wholeheartedly support the tetris leggo stack :)  I need onez tooz :)

It might look strange on stage to some but I'm not too worried.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 01, 2014, 04:23:51 AM
the symmetry appeals to my twisted mind.  I was contemplating this idea to replace an ampeg bass fridge too.

do you look on craigslist for high school kids getting rid of 12x2 sub boxes from their car stereos?

fwiw, I play unplugged most of the time when I practice. the tele gets the coolest vibrations going and all kinds of overtones, sometimes louder than the primary note.
teles are special guitars.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 01, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
Will the Lego stack be multicolored, like Legos?

Cause that would be awesome


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 01, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
Black, no car stereo gear.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 11:47:08 AM
JUST GET 4X12S LIKE WE HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR THREE YEARS


IM GOING TO PUNCH YOU IN THE HEAD
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 01, 2014, 12:11:08 PM
 :D ;D

I think by now we know that Liquids is a thinker.  Possibly to a fault.  I myself am a 'just do it-er'.  Not enough thinking and pay later.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 01, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
He's not going to carry a 4x12 for three minutes a night once a month, would you risk that kind of trauma just to sound better?

;D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 01:37:23 PM
Yet he would rather make four trips and spend 6x the money of buying some Peavey 4x12s.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 01, 2014, 01:39:23 PM
I like to load up just what fits on a tv tray and go for some minimalist jams.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_20291_zpsadffc1e1.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_20291_zpsadffc1e1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 01:41:19 PM
I think im going to bring 8 1x10s to my next gig.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 01, 2014, 01:43:12 PM
I always got a lot of grumbling when I announced I would be bringing 2 4x12's and an 8x10.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 01:45:45 PM
Seriously, there are underaged African diamond miners that carry the equivalent of a 4x12 on their backs, up hills, all day in the sun, and you can't carry one once a month?
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 01:46:13 PM
Quote from: RAGER on May 01, 2014, 01:43:12 PM
I always got a lot of grumbling when I announced I would be bringing 2 4x12's and an 8x10.

Im sure that sounded ok.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 01, 2014, 01:54:50 PM
'chew mean?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 01:55:48 PM
Just being a dick :-D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 01, 2014, 03:55:46 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 01, 2014, 01:45:45 PM
Seriously, there are underaged African diamond miners that carry the equivalent of a 4x12 on their backs, up hills, all day in the sun, and you can't carry one once a month?

I've run this flag up his shimmy stick a couple times already, it didn't stay up ;)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 05:28:00 PM
Why aren't all of us using four AC30s?

These things have such good "desert" tone
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 01, 2014, 06:03:54 PM
FOUR? I only have two hands, Conan !

:D
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 01, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
And one back!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 01, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
I think the cab-limiting factor is that dude here drives a small car.

Maybe not the best criteria for picking stoner rockin' equipment. But real.

(Rent a van and take everything in one trip - the drums and all that mess).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 01, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
$20 to rent a Uhaul in town = there goes the entire take from the show.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 01, 2014, 10:48:24 PM
He might have a small car, which does suck for Jucifer-level hauls but he's been clear that he ain't trying to lift a cab no way !

I'm giving him good-natured shit, I have love for the Maze Of Liquid Smoke, I'm pretty sure he knows that

Haul a cab, sweetie !  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 01, 2014, 11:13:38 PM
There's 3 dudes in the band, I guess it's every man for himself when it comes to carrying shit?

I think he needs one (or more) Mesa/Boogie 4x12 straight cabs, my ex-rockstar friend told me they are the gold standard for heavy rock, and make everything sound awesome. The EV-12L speakers (I think I have that right) - they came with a variety of speakers (Black Shadows) but the EV's have fuller range (meaning more bass) and clean... not unlike a PA speaker. They are big and heavy though (especially with those speakers) and expensive - about 600 bucks used.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 01, 2014, 11:18:26 PM
My buddy runs a Mesa 6x10 that damn near outweighs the average 8x10 fridge.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 01, 2014, 11:38:40 PM
::nods:: yup, those Mesa battleships are the business
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 01:00:00 AM
I've decided to get sixteen 128 ohm 1x8s. I'm going to put them all in a canoe and put that on top of my car for gigs.

Or I'll put wheels on the canoe and tow it behind my car.  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 01:02:16 AM
Tetris doom.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 02, 2014, 01:10:47 AM
What kind of fag has a small car?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 01:18:04 AM
I have a Pontiac Vibe, I'm a lesbian.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 02, 2014, 09:32:35 AM
Lesbians drive Suburus. You, my friend, are a sorority girl.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 02, 2014, 10:39:00 AM
Pretty sure owning a pontiac vibe qualifies you as a fag.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 02, 2014, 12:21:09 PM
I used to have a "Boogie" square cab with the expanded metal grill and EVs.

Yes sounded awesome, but I sold it to Super Heavy Goat Ass because it took two people to lift it off the ground. And no casters either.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 02, 2014, 12:23:26 PM
That, and I would like a Tetris Doom Refridarator Magnent.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 01:54:43 PM
Texas Tetris Pontiac Light Cab Fag Doom

Rise Above will be all over this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 02, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
Can Hydrozeen "refridgerater magnents" be far behind ?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 02, 2014, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on May 02, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
Can Hydrozeen "refridgerater magnents" be far behind ?
awesome you remember that. I still think that would be too funny.. I would get some.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
magnents?  :D

Purple and pink 128 ohm Vibe magnents
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 02, 2014, 04:09:28 PM
absolutely "refrigitater magnents" or something like that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 05:52:03 PM
Doing some Fender/Carvin tube head comparisons with an a/b switcher box today and am noticing that more watts per speaker helps low end clarity. I think I'll start using both heads, why not? 150 watt speakers like to eat.

MOAR POWER BETTER TONE
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 02, 2014, 05:59:17 PM
You have to carry those, you know?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Yeah and the Dual Showman weighs almost as much as some 4x12s. The Carvin isn't bad though. Messed around with my Peavey Rockmaster preamp into SS power amp today as well but there is this weird shitty sounding crackle sometimes at the end of palm muted power chords. I think those units might have to go on ebay soon.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 02, 2014, 08:01:36 PM
Oh we're talking about ridiculous heavy 4x12's?  My vote/contribution is for my '88 Randall 4x12 with square expanded metal grill.  Bassy as shit and heavy as fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 02, 2014, 08:47:55 PM
bassy..

(http://www.operatorchan.org/t/src/139630363055.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on May 03, 2014, 12:07:05 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 02, 2014, 05:59:17 PM
You have to carry those, you know?
Suck it up, and tell your drummer to hit the gym!

(We're glorified roadies, aren't we?)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 03, 2014, 12:19:11 AM
unfortunately I am my own roadie and quite frankly it sucks. especially when stairs are involved. I played this gig at a skatepark in Jamestown ny once. the fuckin thing was built on the top floor of a 3 story building. it was cool as fuck but I literally had to haul equipment up 3 floors worth of stairs..not fun..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 03, 2014, 03:53:03 AM
Stairs are fucking evil.

Check this out, ported 2x12 guitar cabs. They toot their own horn a great deal.

http://earcandycabs.com/guitar-speaker-cabs/buzzbomb-2x12/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on May 03, 2014, 11:24:27 AM
Our practice space is on the third floor of an old factory.  For two years we couldn't use the elevator, and had to haul gear up and down three flights of stairs for gigs.  Fuck stairs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 03, 2014, 11:52:24 AM
That G&L El Toro that I just reconstituted after more than a decade being out of commission is quickly becoming my go to.  I like the way that it's set up and the position of the pickups is good for me considering where I put my plucking hand.  Just feels right.  The sound of it is different for me as well.  It's got kind of a chewy tone, that is just south of a honk.  Loaded with EMG actives, I'd never played active J-bass pickups before, but it's pretty unique.  At least for me.  That being said, I got a local guy on the lookout for the original pickups, that will be all but impossible to find.  I'm told this guy is a miracle worker though, so we'll see.  After only 1600 or so of these basses were made in total, the chances are really slim.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 03, 2014, 11:52:53 AM
I dunno about weightlifting

a little is ok but I mean musicianship is endurance and fine movements and weightlifting trains your muscles for the opposite.  think about how you have to contort your back to get the cab out of the back seat of the car!  lifting is one thing, but tetrising and humping bulky heavy gear is another.

I definitely second Neos and small cabs!  I am a musician, not a weightlifter.  I dig my neo 410 cabs, they weigh only 40 pounds!

Ever wonder why there are so many chiros and back surgeons? consider the way physics works:

When you add in the 105 pounds of the average human upper torso, you see that lifting a ten pound object actually puts 1,150 pounds of pressure on the lower back. In my line of work I have seen A TON of serious low back injuries. I lift correctly and use a back brace when lifting this bulky item. More than one million workers suffer back injuries account annually, and these account for one in five workplace injuries (Bureau of Labor Statistics). 80% of these injuries are to the low back (lumbar spine). Back injuries cost the US economy billions of dollars each year. I am glad I do not have one, I would settle for a little less or more tone with neodymium speakers; I just want to avoid getting any back injury ;)

(http://coonrapidschiropractic.com/images/proper_lifting_chart-coon_rapids_chiropractic.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 03, 2014, 12:21:24 PM
I'm 53 and have been hauling my own gear for years.

You've just got to lift properly.

Hell, My old Sunn 4x12 doesn't even have handles.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 03, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
I had one of those Boogie cabs like Danny. I weighed it once, because it was almost silly how heavy it was (especially since it was even a bit smaller than a Marshall-sized cab).

It weighed 135 lbs. But I did have casters, thank Satan.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 03, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
I have a 212 orange closed back cab; I hate lifting it at 62 pounds of bulkiness
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 03, 2014, 02:38:49 PM


I may just get another orange 212 closed back cab and skip the expensive neo speaker replacements until later on in life

...until when the Kemper/AxefxII gets better

more heresy lolerz ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on May 03, 2014, 05:32:42 PM
Jesus Christ!  What good are band mates if they don't assist in lifting gear? Everyone knows cabs are heavy.  Why are you all lifting them yourselves?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 03, 2014, 06:01:03 PM
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/iplayguitar_zps6cfef70e.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/iplayguitar_zps6cfef70e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 03, 2014, 06:09:00 PM
A 40 lb 4x10 bass cab? Whoa. I didn't know they were that light with neos.

Generally after gigs we all go our separate ways in my band. Sometimes we meet up the next day to load the cabs in, sometimes we don't. Lighter is better but not essential. I just sold my motorcycle and got my tax return so..
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 03, 2014, 09:15:35 PM
Does "40lbs" make your vagina quiver?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 04, 2014, 04:07:14 AM
My mangina. Fuck yeah.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 02:13:33 AM
I'm seeing mention of speaker 'power compression' on some forums. Is this anything guitar players who tune low and use tube amps should be concerned about? To me the message is- make sure your speakers have enough watt headroom to avoid an eventual reduction in volume that turning up your amp won't solve. I'm probably getting this completely wrong though.

edit: http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/power-compression/

I think I may have experienced this with SS amps half way or two thirds of the way through practice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 05, 2014, 05:06:43 AM
^ I wonder if there was a way to easily monitor the overall impedance the speaker system is showing to the amp.  it would be cool to wire dangerous 2 ohm or less loads when cold that slide right into the perfect 4 ohm zone when they "warm up". there could be a "pre-heater" circuit on the amp that just rams some dc or something through to warm those beotches up until the correct impedance shows on the monitor thingy-bob-adoo....


headroom.  I say it all th etime, IMO,can't have enough.  amp power , per dollar, is cheaper than mambo speakers.

also, another essential thing is to shelf off the deepest bass hard, like permit nothing below maybe 30-40hz through at all.   playing a sub harmonic noise takes incredible power and opens the door for big IM distortion on higher freq material, so bad bad bad.

this is kind of fun watching you come to conclusions regarding developing your system. you are keeping me thinking right along with your adventure.

what if you had a stack of 1 x 12 combo amp sized cabs. each weighs some dipshit 20#, has nice handle on top, you have some tricky stacking trick for the performance
build one every couple of evenings. small areas of wood are easier to keep from flexing, so smaller cabs are easier to built stoutly.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 12:09:56 PM
Regarding this power compression, just pretend I'm not thinking about getting different cabs. Anyone at any time could wonder about it.

I hear you on the low end thing. Had my SS power amp running the other day and it's very easy to get the clip warning light to come on just by turning up the preamp's bass knob.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 05, 2014, 12:13:24 PM
My poweramp clip light stays on. Just for reference.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 05, 2014, 12:13:24 PM
My poweramp clip light stays on. Just for reference.

And you aren't concerned about speaker damage? The manual for my SoundTech says "It is NOT acceptable to operate your amplifier with this LED flashing excessively. Operation in this manner is harmful to your speakers, regardless of their power capacity". I was often obviously clipping with my Ampeg SS-150 and I'm pretty sure it never harmed my speakers. That amp sounded really warm for SS. No peak indicator LED on it.

I'm quite happy playing through tube amps at the moment but for future reference I'd like to have a better understanding of SS clipping. Is there any way to know for sure if your speakers are overheating when they are clipping before damage starts to occur?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 05, 2014, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 03, 2014, 06:09:00 PM
A 40 lb 4x10 bass cab? Whoa. I didn't know they were that light with neos.

Generally after gigs we all go our separate ways in my band. Sometimes we meet up the next day to load the cabs in, sometimes we don't. Lighter is better but not essential. I just sold my motorcycle and got my tax return so..

ya Gallien had em, but their current lightweight 410s are a little heavier

same here, I mean in Austin original bands do not gig that often as there are tons of bands here.  Doom/sludge bands gig like once every two months.  and no basements.  many rent rehearsal rooms.  it all ads up to me lifting gear up and down the stairway to my second story apartment building, so I am saving up for lightweight gear and a roland vdrums and jamhub for rehearsals/gigs/recording.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 05, 2014, 01:03:22 PM
^
Needs to trade in his sleeveless vest for a skirt.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
Ported guitar cabs. Silly? Awesome? Discuss.

(yes I'm pondering them but there is no need to be alarmed, everything will be okay)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 05, 2014, 01:53:12 PM
Having owned both ported and sealed 4x12s, I much prefer a sealed guitar cab.

I like to let the bass guitar/rig hit on those frequencies. Plus, the sealed cabs just project much tighter and focused.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 01:58:05 PM
Makes sense. Tight focus is what I like.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 05, 2014, 01:58:46 PM
  Im on a budget with a vintage 1999 corrolla :) so no 412s   :D

 ...sleeveless vest purchase with ebay doom band patches  :o still pending FOR THE ULTRA HEAVY DOOM/SLUDGE/FUSION/THRASH MAYHEMS OF DESTRUCTION!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 05, 2014, 02:48:28 PM
Block and tackle to help get gear up/down said stairs? \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Corrollas ain't doom, you need a Real Man Truck and Big Muscles.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 05, 2014, 03:07:31 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Corrollas ain't doom, you need a Real Man Truck and Big Muscles.

Nah, you need only a hatchback, a handtruck, and the knowledge of how to lift properly.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
If all else fails you just rope the cabs up stairs with your ZZ Doom Beard and powerful neck muscles.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 05, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 02:13:33 AM
I'm seeing mention of speaker 'power compression' on some forums. Is this anything guitar players who tune low and use tube amps should be concerned about? To me the message is- make sure your speakers have enough watt headroom to avoid an eventual reduction in volume that turning up your amp won't solve. I'm probably getting this completely wrong though.

edit: http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/power-compression/

I think I may have experienced this with SS amps half way or two thirds of the way through practice.

Half way through practice stuff is probably your ears going, rather than speakers. Amp's power section compressing is going to be most of it, guitar speakers aren't doing subwoofer work and aren't even vaguely attempting to be linear anyway. Power compression is kind of a concern for bass, but neo drivers have loads better heatsinking so it isn't a current concern any more.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 05, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
If all else fails you just rope the cabs up stairs with your ZZ Doom Beard and powerful neck muscles.

::)

One person takes the front, one the rear, & then you both use your leg muscles to climb the stairs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 05, 2014, 03:29:28 PM
lolerz!  Block and tackle two 100 pound orange cabs with a beard and put em into a hatchback :)  ur right I need bigger muscles like u know who

(http://www.yellmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/manowar-van-damme-large.jpg)

in reality it is possible with a moving truck and two people, its just like moving a couch or refrigerator
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on May 05, 2014, 04:53:54 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 05, 2014, 03:07:31 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Corrollas ain't doom, you need a Real Man Truck and Big Muscles.

Nah, you need only a hatchback, a handtruck, and the knowledge of how to lift properly.

...And a drummer who outweighs you by about 50%!! ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 05, 2014, 05:02:38 PM
Right? Truthfully, I haven't owned a hatchback for quite a few years.

Then again, I haven't had a drummer who outweighs me by 50% for almost as long.

Hopefully, that will change soon, however.  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 05, 2014, 05:07:03 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 05, 2014, 12:13:24 PM
My poweramp clip light stays on. Just for reference.

And you aren't concerned about speaker damage? The manual for my SoundTech says "It is NOT acceptable to operate your amplifier with this LED flashing excessively. Operation in this manner is harmful to your speakers, regardless of their power capacity". I was often obviously clipping with my Ampeg SS-150 and I'm pretty sure it never harmed my speakers. That amp sounded really warm for SS. No peak indicator LED on it.

I'm quite happy playing through tube amps at the moment but for future reference I'd like to have a better understanding of SS clipping. Is there any way to know for sure if your speakers are overheating when they are clipping before damage starts to occur?

Are you sure you aren't a woman? Manuals? The fuck!?

I don't give a fuck about speaker damage. If your impedances match, and the speakers are rated properly, you should never be able to hurt a speaker. Most damage comes from improper matches, over powering, poorly designed enclosures, poorly built speakers or user error.

You think too much, if you break something, it wasn't up to snuff. You dig?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 05, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
Also, all distortion = clipping
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 05, 2014, 05:14:40 PM
FOCUS ON SONGS


/dude whose last band didn't do that   ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 05, 2014, 06:40:07 PM
As a musician, my number one m.o. is have a house where I can play as loud as I want and own a vehicle tat I could load my shit into.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 06:45:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on May 05, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 02:13:33 AM
I'm seeing mention of speaker 'power compression' on some forums. Is this anything guitar players who tune low and use tube amps should be concerned about? To me the message is- make sure your speakers have enough watt headroom to avoid an eventual reduction in volume that turning up your amp won't solve. I'm probably getting this completely wrong though.

edit: http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/power-compression/

I think I may have experienced this with SS amps half way or two thirds of the way through practice.

Half way through practice stuff is probably your ears going, rather than speakers. Amp's power section compressing is going to be most of it, guitar speakers aren't doing subwoofer work and aren't even vaguely attempting to be linear anyway. Power compression is kind of a concern for bass, but neo drivers have loads better heatsinking so it isn't a current concern any more.


Ah.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 05, 2014, 05:07:03 PM
Are you sure you aren't a woman? Manuals? The fuck!?

I don't give a fuck about speaker damage. If your impedances match, and the speakers are rated properly, you should never be able to hurt a speaker. Most damage comes from improper matches, over powering, poorly designed enclosures, poorly built speakers or user error.

You think too much, if you break something, it wasn't up to snuff. You dig?

I have a lot of faith in my speakers but I don't assume they can tolerate an infinite amount of heat. I read the 7 page PS802 manual to avoid a user error. It's awesome that you don't ever need to read manuals.

Quote from: SunnO))) on May 05, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
Also, all distortion = clipping

Yes. Melting voice coils is what I don't want to do so when the manual says not to run the amp with the peak indicator LED 'flashing excessively' I take that kind of seriously even while playing guitar. Turn the bass down, yes, that helps.

Your 'woman' comments are very entertaining. Now I want to get 16 1x10 cabs because it would irk some people.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 05, 2014, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 07:23:45 PM

Your 'woman' comments are very entertaining. Now I want to get 16 1x10 cabs because it would irk some people.

Cool!

Just don't be surprised when it sounds like shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 07:36:23 PM
A sacrifice I'm willing to make for the ultimate she-rig.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 05, 2014, 07:46:04 PM
A massive wall of Peavey Bandits would be totally stoner rock.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 05, 2014, 08:10:20 PM
There used to be a pic floating around that was a rig of something like four Bandits wide by three tall – all daisy chained. I cannot find.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 05, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
my current doom bass rig: each cab weighs only 40 poundsand I can fit all of it in the back seats of my corrolla!!  maybe not doomz enuf??? I use tech 21 vt bass and decimator gstring for growl:

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/Rons_Norway_Photos/bassrigphoto_zps8ca4160b.jpg) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/Rons_Norway_Photos/media/bassrigphoto_zps8ca4160b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 05, 2014, 08:18:36 PM
this guy converted open back 212s to closed back orange cabs.  if I replace with neodymium speakers, each cab would only weigh 35 pounds!!!   :D

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/Rons_Norway_Photos/orangecab35lbsopenbackconversion2_zpsad375cd7.png) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/Rons_Norway_Photos/media/orangecab35lbsopenbackconversion2_zpsad375cd7.png.html)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa243/Rons_Norway_Photos/orangecab35lbsopenbackconversion_zpsae98e34d.png) (http://s202.photobucket.com/user/Rons_Norway_Photos/media/orangecab35lbsopenbackconversion_zpsae98e34d.png.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 08:31:24 PM
Nice rigs dude!

Oh, I mean, you're a woman!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 05, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
That's his bass rig.

You're talking about a guitar rig.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 05, 2014, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jake on May 05, 2014, 08:10:20 PM
There used to be a pic floating around that was a rig of something like four Bandits wide by three tall – all daisy chained. I cannot find.

I made a gig flyer out of it once...

(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/t1.0-9/1146720_505608796181343_686222089_n.jpg)

I think this might be an EQ issue at it's root. 100 watt guitar amp should be unbelievably loud. 100 watt bass amp, not so much. So if there was more midrange/less bass in his signal it might seem a lot louder. IMO, let the bass player handle those frequencies, but that's not my scene (so, it's easy for me to say...) One problem guitar players can have is 'more is better'. If a distortion is good, then more is better. If a bassy signal is good, then more is better. Not really true. Also, a 4x12 cabinet might be more satisfying than two 2x12s because of the benefit of a larger cabinet. Not certain of that, since speakers take up room, but usually, bigger box = more bass.

/dunno
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 05, 2014, 10:29:27 PM
a speaker and it's cab volume. you can have 1 speaker in x volume or 4 speakers in 4x volume=no difference

if you built single cabs of equal volume and port tuning to a large cab, there would be no difference in sound since each speaker still deals with the same cab resonance etc.
y'all should read some speaker cab design books.

liquid, stay the course.   knowledge is power.   

Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 05, 2014, 10:55:12 PM
I'm just picking on you, girl. ;-)

You constantly overthink this shit. It's pretty simple. I have NEVER blown a speaker or melted a voice coil. NEVER. Destroyed amps? Yeah that's different. I play BASS, CRANKED, out of two guitar 4x12s, REGULARLY.

I live to abuse my shit, it's only existence is to please me and take everything I throw at it. If something breaks? It will get fixed.

Seriously guitars, amps, cabs, etc are not babies. They are metal, wood, carbon, glass, whatever, and if it fucking breaks under normal use, well...

Do you seriously only drive the speed limit or -just- drink two beers? Your body is a metric fuckton more sensitive than guitar equipment and yet people treat it like a fuckin sewer by drinking and smoking, eating fast food, pick your poison.

I have amps twice my fucking age that work, still.

So, unless your shit is made of flowers and butterflies, it will be just fine.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 05, 2014, 11:06:30 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/06/u5adybyd.jpg)

I got this truck with 27 miles on it in late 08. I have not been good to it. I drive it fast, hard, I do not maintain it well, and it does not have an easy life.

I keep synthetic oil in it, and keep good plugs/wires in it. That's it. It has never failed me to a point that I could not rectify it on the side of the road. Just to drive the point home, it has the original serpentine belt on it. 316k on one belt. 4 cylinder Ford Ranger.

Shit is tough. Real tough. I put a clutch in it at 270k. Tried to pull too much one time and lunched it. Original alternator, air compressor everything. I've had a check engine light since 127k. (return sensor for coolant temp gauge is bad.)

Don't believe everything you read. Im not saying treat your shit like I do mine but I am saying don't just... Pussyfoot around it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 06, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
I was thinking now about what I have destroyed over time.  mostly just ss amp output sections and tweeters. I don't think I have ever melted a woofer voice coil unintentionally either.    a cool sound is when the voice coil starts hitting the back of the frame.


that bass rig is dialed in really nicely.  all in a corolla is awesome. I can barely get myself into a corolla. I would love to see the video of M&B getting into a corolla
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 06, 2014, 12:19:04 AM
I take all the tweeters out of my shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 06, 2014, 12:24:43 AM
As jibb said, knowledge is power so we are talking about gear, I'm sorry if my questions are annoying to some. I'm not good at fixing stuff so when I spend money on gear I want to know at least the essential info so I don't blow it up even if it's hard to blow up. Instrument cables can work in place of speaker cables but I don't want to be that guy. Sounds like you've got yourself a nice truck Sunn.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 06, 2014, 12:27:58 AM
Eh, it's barebones, but i practically live in it.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 06, 2014, 12:37:08 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 06, 2014, 12:19:04 AM
I take all the tweeters out of my shit.
how do your nearfield computer monitors sound with no tweeters?

(https://hahachn.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/snickering-boy1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 06, 2014, 12:44:42 AM
I mean cabs, and shit you grouchy dildo
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 06, 2014, 04:36:34 AM
heh

I am cleaning up the old cortez lp copy which I bought used in like 1978, so it is fucking used now.  all electronics are suspect.  so I was going to yank the pup selector toggle switch except it isn't a toggle switch. this rig looks like a double 1/4" jack inside where a little blade just pushes 2 contactors together.  I think I can just clean it and it will be quiet again. very nice surprise.

the pots are in bad shape tho, and the jack is stretched so it needs replacing.  
I should take a pic, the finish is aging and looks really nice. too bad most of the gold plating has worn off the hardware. those japs knocked off a black beauty all the way down to the same grover tuners and even triple binding.

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edit: i'm doing nightwatch on the thermometer. I have 14 flats of vegetables and a dozen large tomatos and it MAY frost tonight. I think i'm going to make it..about 39-40 degrees right now.....if I see the white starting on the grass, I have to shuffle all that shit inside. so between hourly checks, i'm practicing some guitar, tearing another one apart, looking for a fight, and in general finding stuff to do in the middle of the fucking night
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 06, 2014, 05:11:30 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 05, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
. Is there any way to know for sure if your speakers are overheating when they are clipping before damage starts to occur?

I don't know of anything up to the point you can smell the coil insulation burning. what happens is the insulation, which is really thin laquer or wtf, starts burning and letting turns of the coil touch. each loop of coil that touches cuts it out and lowers impedance=moar current=moar heat=moar damage.

that is the only way I know of , and that is already damage. a partly damaged speaker just starts losing its schmoltz, like not as snappy or as loud, and total failure is imminent as the rest of the coils short and the amp starts kicking out due to short protection or the speaker finally quits.

I did in my 5-1/4 car woofers in the door with 100w rms and van halen's eruption in one of the tunnels on I77 in w va.  they were frizzy sounding after that.  I rocked the fuck out of the tunnel. everyone was looking heh. the whole stereo was 14speakers 1200 watts rms tri-amped.  sucked the big cap dry and everything heh. my ears were ringing like I was at a loud show. it was so fucking loud

I see speaker wires break where they go through the cone, but you can fix those and that is only mechanical.

tweeters go right up in smoke. heh. I have seen too many tweeters die. have killed a ton myself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 06, 2014, 10:17:18 AM
I blew each and every one of my g12k-85's with either my Marshall or my orange. But like jakeo)) said, shit wasn't right. Corrosion built up in the gap. Must have been stored in a moist environment at points.  I love those speakers and scoop them up when i find them. Luckily never trashed one during a show. Always during four hour brutalizing practices.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 06, 2014, 10:26:49 AM
I think M&B drives a Miata.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 06, 2014, 03:20:39 PM


stoked.
I decided to play with more old stuff that stopped working. the roland vs-880 8tracker had the double effects boards in it. roland effects are nice. I want those back. lo and behold, blow out the power switch, use different cord, wiggle the switch a few times and she fired up for me HAH.

I must finish replacing my mt-2 stomp switch and get that pharaoh.  I will go from shit for effects to back in business effects. plus get the little behringer mixer back from my son. that has some effects that I actually like. 

then the only thing missing will be analog delay pedal or 2


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 06, 2014, 07:28:19 PM
Drummer watched Neurosis at Temples. Now he is trying to make everything sound like Neurosis. He'll need some better sounding toms.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 06, 2014, 07:54:47 PM
Better Toms will get you on better Bills but still won't get you Jack but dreams of Benjamins, Bob's your uncle for sure.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 07, 2014, 12:23:15 AM
Any of you bass players ever use two 100+ watt tube guitar heads for bass? Seems like that would probably work pretty good with like two 4x10s.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 07, 2014, 12:33:47 AM
I've used my 100w JCM800 as a bass amp many times.

Sounds great as long as I'm not playing it with a SUPER LOUD band, then it's kind of under-powered.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 07, 2014, 02:19:27 AM
Used to use my model T and my JCM800.

Now i use my JCM800 and an acoustic 370 for bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 07, 2014, 02:24:08 AM
Makes sense.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 07, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 07, 2014, 12:23:15 AM
Any of you bass players ever use two 100+ watt tube guitar heads for bass? Seems like that would probably work pretty good with like two 4x10s.

I use a 100w and a 50w. The 100w has iron about the size of that in an SVT though, because its not cheap and shitty. The 50w is more Sound City 120 sized iron. 4x10s are pretty suck though, I use 2x15s. Pretty much no 4x10s have progressed past 80s tech level.
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on May 07, 2014, 09:14:13 AM
So the power trio project thing fell through but 2 days later I ran onto an ad from two dudes looking for a bassist/singer so I responded to the ad. Showed up to the jam space and as I walk up the dudes are jamming "Never In My Life" by Mountain. Once insid3 we jammed on some more Mountain, some Cream ( SOYL and Politician) and some James Gang (Walk Away) covers before we just free jammed. I could see myself being very happy with this.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 07, 2014, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on May 07, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 07, 2014, 12:23:15 AM
Any of you bass players ever use two 100+ watt tube guitar heads for bass? Seems like that would probably work pretty good with like two 4x10s.

I use a 100w and a 50w. The 100w has iron about the size of that in an SVT though, because its not cheap and shitty. The 50w is more Sound City 120 sized iron. 4x10s are pretty suck though, I use 2x15s. Pretty much no 4x10s have progressed past 80s tech level.

How about Avatar's 4x10s? Either way two 4x10s is a lot of speaker, no? You actually use two 2x15s? That's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 08, 2014, 02:54:24 AM
Keyboard players that don't have amps and play venues with weak PAs and no monitors. Does anyone understand this?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on May 08, 2014, 03:33:08 AM
They don't like doing that but being in a loud band with some a-hole diming everything on his guitar/bass amp and another a-hole with a huge 26" bass drum, they kinda have to.

/isinabandwithsynthpeople

/theiropinionnotmine
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 08, 2014, 03:49:43 AM
Cymbal volume alone dictates that everyone has to crank their amps pretty damn loud to be heard.

At least get a 4x10 and 400 watts you keyboard people. Or a powered PA speaker you can stick on a stand.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 08, 2014, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 07, 2014, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on May 07, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 07, 2014, 12:23:15 AM
Any of you bass players ever use two 100+ watt tube guitar heads for bass? Seems like that would probably work pretty good with like two 4x10s.

I use a 100w and a 50w. The 100w has iron about the size of that in an SVT though, because its not cheap and shitty. The 50w is more Sound City 120 sized iron. 4x10s are pretty suck though, I use 2x15s. Pretty much no 4x10s have progressed past 80s tech level.

How about Avatar's 4x10s? Either way two 4x10s is a lot of speaker, no? You actually use two 2x15s? That's pretty awesome.

Dunno specifically but fundamentally 4x12 is not a great design, and there are great designs available. Plus those two 4x10s would be heavier than my 2 2x5s.

(http://ampstack.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/dscf1467.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 08, 2014, 08:13:02 PM
120 watt tube head bass player here.

I used this setup for a while, but bailed on the traynor cab setup.  It was too much to haul for the small gigs we play.

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/img_2324small.jpg)

sorry for the dark pic, but the traynor cab has a 60 watt head with some relatively inefficient speakers (2x15) so I used that for grit mostly.  I went into it from the TU-2 split into a vol pedal.  When I wanted the grunt, I could roll it on.  The ampeg setup is the one I've used now for a few years.  Both of those heads are Garnets.  Ampeg cab is the 610, and I love it.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 08, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
I put two 4x12s in a pontiac vibe today.
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on May 08, 2014, 09:38:00 PM
So this EB-0 is a strange beast. Absolutely no high end yet cuts through a band mix exceptionally well. It also provides super heavy duty low end and I am digging the short scale neck quite a bit.

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Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 02:37:03 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 08, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
I put two 4x12s in a pontiac vibe today.

Yes it can be done.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on May 09, 2014, 05:40:55 AM
If I was go gonna go tube for playing bass I'd go for 50w/100w models as well. The grit is nicer imo.

So tonight first rehearsal with new synth player. I hope it works out because she's the only synth player we know. She is the list so to speak. I'll just focus on playing with the drummer, that has worked out so far ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on May 09, 2014, 07:23:42 AM
Used to run ProTools back in the day, did all kinds of home recording from basement death metal to electronica sampled from stoner metal albums. After giving it all away and living out of a van for seven years, I'm settling back into a home life again and about to start all over. Found a ProTools and M-Audio combination but looks like it's an "Express" version of ProTools that doesn't have any fx plug-ings. So now I'm debating between FocusRite 2i2 and Reaper (which a friend is very happy with), or an M-Audio M-Track that comes with Ableton Lite and Ignite, almost half the price of the other purchase. About to search this forum for "home recording" threads.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 09, 2014, 08:00:44 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 02:37:03 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 08, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
I put two 4x12s in a pontiac vibe today.

Yes it can be done.

No excuses then
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 01:46:11 PM
Well there is the issue of my vagina..


Regarding guitar amps for bass, the SVT is notorious for having loads of headroom but 200 or 240 watts of guitar tube head should be almost as loud, makes perfect sense and is generally easier to lug around.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 09, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 01:46:11 PM
Well there is the issue of my vagina..


That's no excuse—you can use the vag for transporting smaller gear items so that there'll be room in the Vibe for your manly 4x12s.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 09, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Patch cables and picks
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 09, 2014, 02:03:28 PM
Sure!

Even smaller fx pedals might fit after it stretches out some.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 02:05:57 PM
Way ahead of you dudes. My other vagina can fit even more gear.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 09, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
I should mention i drove that P-vibe. Cool car.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 02:12:25 PM
Very utilitarian if nothing else. Not the type of car dudes should get if they are concerned about women judging them by their 'ride'. The notion is delicious to me. Stay away toxic bitches.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 09, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
But if you've already scared all the women of that type off with the car, why bother with the tiny, gay cabinet setup?

It's just plain redundant.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 09, 2014, 02:18:39 PM
"tiny, gay cabinet setup" :-D:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 09, 2014, 02:22:54 PM
(http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/evh-1x12-cabinet-ivory-539039.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 09, 2014, 02:23:09 PM
Aside from arena-with-no-PA situations, why would a guitarist need more than 100 watts? Christ ! Dinglesnap from Leechmilk (whatever his new band's called) uses two 50-watt heads and he's loud enough to drive me outside (and I'm no volume virgin)

Get off my lawn, etc
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 02:26:38 PM
I'm trading in for a Subaru. Even more space for gay cabs and even better at repelling muddin' chicks.

200 watts = moar power for a less neutered full volume tone. This is a stoner rock website still, no?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 09, 2014, 02:30:03 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 02:26:38 PM
200 watts = moar power for a less neutered full volume tone. This is a stoner rock website still, no?

Yes, but most of us stonerrockers like power tube saturation, not clean headroom, so we hope you'll pardon our continually poking fun at your attempts to get it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 09, 2014, 02:55:31 PM
^ Yup, that, and you were asking about EIGHT HUNDRED WATT power units recently !
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 09, 2014, 03:07:33 PM
Shit, im finna be using a Peavey Ultra+ and a heritage VTX...
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 04:02:02 PM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on May 09, 2014, 02:55:31 PM
^ Yup, that, and you were asking about EIGHT HUNDRED WATT power units recently !

I have one although I've only ran it at 400 so far.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 04:33:20 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 09, 2014, 02:30:03 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 02:26:38 PM
200 watts = moar power for a less neutered full volume tone. This is a stoner rock website still, no?

Yes, but most of us stonerrockers like power tube saturation, not clean headroom, so we hope you'll pardon our continually poking fun at your attempts to get it.

The Dual Showman is treating me right on headroom, just adding the Carvin to see how more power per speaker sounds.

My interest in tube guitar heads for bass is partly out of curiosity but also because I want to put together a bass rig. Tube saturation would be nice for that application.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 09, 2014, 04:36:22 PM
you could always go big rig for the BIG DOOMZ GIG EVERY TWO MONTHZ, and then small rig for jams around town:
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/micromister/OrangeAndBlackCabs1_zpsf047b3c0.jpg)
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g273/micromister/OrangeAndBlackCabs1_zpsf047b3c0.jpg
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
Whatever works. I like to keep my volume consistent for practice, little gigs, and little gigs.  ;D

It's always big doomz jams.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on May 09, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
I run my v4 into an 8x10 for bass. Never have had to turn it louder than half way up. It rattled thefl oorat  the last house show we played. I'm using an overdrive ped al anda fuzz. Ple nty loud for the gigs we play. I've got no need to beany loud er than it will go.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 09, 2014, 08:09:45 PM
I think you may have also rattled your space bar into noncompliance.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on May 09, 2014, 08:15:01 PM
I got a cream classicvibe p90 tele for 50$ today. Soon to be scalloped and single pickuped...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on May 09, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
heh, it's this swiftkey app on my phone. adds spaces where and when it feels like yet saves a lot of typing
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 09, 2014, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 05, 2014, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jake on May 05, 2014, 08:10:20 PM
There used to be a pic floating around that was a rig of something like four Bandits wide by three tall – all daisy chained. I cannot find.


I think this might be an EQ issue at it's root. 100 watt guitar amp should be unbelievably loud. 100 watt bass amp, not so much. So if there was more midrange/less bass in his signal it might seem a lot louder. IMO, let the bass player handle those frequencies, but that's not my scene (so, it's easy for me to say...) One problem guitar players can have is 'more is better'. If a distortion is good, then more is better. If a bassy signal is good, then more is better. Not really true. Also, a 4x12 cabinet might be more satisfying than two 2x12s because of the benefit of a larger cabinet. Not certain of that, since speakers take up room, but usually, bigger box = more bass.

/dunno

I dig.  I agree too, I mean in the sense that when I am mixing a song, I have to carve a lot of low end out of the guitars, and the guitar tracks by themselves  end up being thin,

to make room for the bass guitar in the mix.  then it all sounds HUGE!

also, heavy bands like Red Fang are using only a single 412 for each guitarist, a 410 for the bassist, and solid state heads and have an awesome heavy tone. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 10, 2014, 03:46:12 AM
Quote from: everdrone on May 09, 2014, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 05, 2014, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jake on May 05, 2014, 08:10:20 PM
There used to be a pic floating around that was a rig of something like four Bandits wide by three tall – all daisy chained. I cannot find.


/dunno
[/I have to carve a lot of low end out of the guitars, and the guitar tracks by themselves  end up being thin,

to make room for the bass guitar in the mix.  then it all sounds HUGE!



This.  Modern amp tone was formed by a bunch of 17 yo dudes wanking off by themselves in a bedroom without the context of a "band". 


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on May 10, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
So, the synth girl left after 2 hours because we're too loud and she didn't bring earplugs. She hasn't played in "loud" bands before so it's understandable but it still made us laugh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 10, 2014, 03:40:12 PM
Was she constantly asking you guys to turn down?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 10, 2014, 05:01:03 PM
Has she ever played in a band with a drummer?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 10, 2014, 09:56:35 PM
Yes!  Modern amp tone formation :) I do think its cool and all, but for many folks not practical in the mix or for frequently moving 100 pound cabs solo

...in any case its good to have a spare set of new earplugs in case a friend wants to listen in or someone forgets em
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 11, 2014, 04:04:56 AM
just got back from the Wolfmother show tonight and reporting in here; they may not be the most heaviest band in the world but I thought they sounded great!  Guitarist is playing through two Vox combos; so not the ultimate full stack or anything but I don't think anyone cared.  Bassist's Ampeg 810s backline had the bass distortion that only tube amps get.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on May 11, 2014, 06:39:29 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 10, 2014, 05:01:03 PM
Has she ever played in a band with a drummer?
Quote from: RAGER on May 10, 2014, 03:40:12 PM
Was she constantly asking you guys to turn down?

Yes, she plays in this band.



And no, she didn't ask us to turn it down because she was a bit uncomfortable and we're just 2 dudes jamming it out hard. One of the reasons I want her in the band is that she has some more experience playing synth than the previous dude. Hell, she has experience, he didn't. So now we have to pay more attention to arranging the jams which is good. She's still into it she said last night but will bring earplugs next time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 11, 2014, 10:46:12 PM
I dunno how big of rooms yall are playing your full stacks in, but in a three piece treated jam room at the rehearsal studio today,

and I can tell you that my Orange 212PPC closed back cab's bass chugging response and Black Arts Pharaoh sludge was so sludgy and pummeling it creates hurt in your body if you turn it past like 6 in volume!  its hard to see a need for any more bass in that room really
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 11, 2014, 11:39:24 PM
Greetings from the synth lab

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_20481_zps0d2a777b.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_20481_zps0d2a777b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 13, 2014, 01:27:38 PM
for my blog entry today, I saw Wolfmother this weekend which rocked!  then I rented a studio rehearsal room for one hour to turn up extreme volumes on my Orange Thunderverb rig which is very bulky cause of the 212 closed back Orange cab that I plan to downsize in a year.

then I posted my ad on Craigslist:

http://austin.craigslist.org/muc/4465800388.html

I play GUITAR. Need DRUMMER, VOCALIST, and BASSIST. If you are a guitarist that wants to play bass in need of a rig, I can bring a bass rig to the studio. I am experienced, skilled, versatile, good heavy rock downtuned rig, transportation, age mid thirties, no kids, 9-6P career. Rental rehearsal studio not too far from me that I jam at is Waveform Austin at $13/hr. Eventually rehearsal once a week; the goal is to gig in Austin; these gigs typically are unpaid. Here are my solo-project demos of various (((HEAVY))) genres, and my bio/photos/video:


https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance
http://www.soundclick.com/earthalliance


EMAIL BACK WITH YOUR MUSIC AND INFO: at least a youtube cameraphone video or recording&photo of yourself and/or bandmates, and your situation regarding pro-gear/transportation/rehearsal location/contacts. No beginner musicians, no flakes. If you commit to a future rehearsal, jam or gig, then be there or be square. Due to my profession I cannot be around any illegal activity including marijuana, due to the risk of constructive possession of marijuana in a car or room (factors listed: Dixon v. State, 918 S.W.2d 678). I am not joking; I am not a narc either; I am just looking for cool and understanding folks that are willing to work with my situation.
**********************Thanks for reading/listening, and keep rockin! \m/ Peace ***************
Tags: Psychedelic, drone, fuzz, grunge, heavy metal, downtune, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Doors, Kyuss, blues based rock, nu-metal, modern rock, hard rock, desert stoner rock, groove rock, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 13, 2014, 01:32:36 PM
Quote from: everdrone on May 13, 2014, 01:27:38 PM
for my blog entry today, I saw Wolfmother this weekend which rocked!  then I rented a studio rehearsal room for one hour to turn up extreme volumes on my Orange Thunderverb rig which is very bulky cause of the 212 closed back Orange cab that I plan to downsize in a year.

then I posted my ad on Craigslist:

http://austin.craigslist.org/muc/4465800388.html

I play GUITAR. Need DRUMMER, VOCALIST, and BASSIST. If you are a guitarist that wants to play bass in need of a rig, I can bring a bass rig to the studio. I am experienced, skilled, versatile, good heavy rock downtuned rig, transportation, age mid thirties, no kids, 9-6P career. Rental rehearsal studio not too far from me that I jam at is Waveform Austin at $13/hr. Eventually rehearsal once a week; the goal is to gig in Austin; these gigs typically are unpaid. Here are my solo-project demos of various (((HEAVY))) genres, and my bio/photos/video:


https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance
http://www.soundclick.com/earthalliance


EMAIL BACK WITH YOUR MUSIC AND INFO: at least a youtube cameraphone video or recording&photo of yourself and/or bandmates, and your situation regarding pro-gear/transportation/rehearsal location/contacts. No beginner musicians, no flakes. If you commit to a future rehearsal, jam or gig, then be there or be square. Due to my profession I cannot be around any illegal activity including marijuana, due to the risk of constructive possession of marijuana in a car or room (factors listed: Dixon v. State, 918 S.W.2d 678). I am not joking; I am not a narc either; I am just looking for cool and understanding folks that are willing to work with my situation.
**********************Thanks for reading/listening, and keep rockin! \m/ Peace ***************
Tags: Psychedelic, drone, fuzz, grunge, heavy metal, downtune, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Doors, Kyuss, blues based rock, nu-metal, modern rock, hard rock, desert stoner rock, groove rock, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

Be careful, that ad could constitute entrapment if you end up making an arrest.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 13, 2014, 01:40:24 PM
trust me, not many responses for this genre of music unfortunately :(

lots of government employees and truckdrivers etc that cant endanger their careers etc
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 13, 2014, 02:20:24 PM
Don't forget the umlaut in nü metal. It's what gives the "u" the Ooooo sound. Unless you meant "nuh" metal, which I've never heard of but is probably much better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 13, 2014, 02:22:06 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 13, 2014, 02:27:25 PM
cant wait to get my sleeveless vest with band patches!!!

then I will post a pic of myself wearing it in my craigslist ad! 

I just got contacts, so you dont need to worry about my emo ironic thick rim glasses clashing with my trucker lookz
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 13, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
I'm pretty sure Buddy Holly emo-thick Instabilly glasses don't clash with merch metal Kreator vests, especially in Awesomstin TX  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 13, 2014, 05:15:25 PM
I think if alterna-ironic fash and Gwar had a child this is how I would accessorize.   ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 13, 2014, 06:46:37 PM
This one time I had a weezer patch on a vest with a Kreator patch on it.


Weezer had impeccable taste in gear... just sayin'.


So did HUM.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 13, 2014, 07:40:28 PM
Whom?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 13, 2014, 07:43:33 PM




Great taste in gear.

OrMats, OR120s, Plexis, Hiwatts...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 13, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
lol at child of Gwar!!! 

somehow for me its gonna turn out looking like pieces of "flare" like in the movie "Office Space"


Joanna: You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?
Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Well, I thought I remembered you saying that you wanted to express yourself.
Joanna: Yeah. You know what, yeah, I do. I do want to express myself, okay. And I don't need 37 pieces of flair to do it.
[flips off Stan]

(https://snarfed.org/office_space_flair.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on May 14, 2014, 05:17:52 PM
Well, fuck Ableton. That shit made me want to punch somebody. Just make the shit so there's no latency, don't make me go through tutorials and half a dozen yoga positions to discover that there will be a delay no matter what. Sheeesh. Here's to my second drink of the afternoon, a packed bowl, and nostalgia for when I had a home studio with ProTools that worked just fine on its own.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on May 14, 2014, 05:26:49 PM
totally with you, and i'll smoke to that, bud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 14, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
Maybe I'm subconsciously avoiding software because of things like this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 14, 2014, 08:19:24 PM
3 days until the big move back to Ohio.  I'm using all my vacation pay while I'm fixing up the old house.  Saying my good byes to all my local friends.  Going to the neighborhood watering hole every night.  When I get to Ohio the new job starts right up.  No time to unpack.  I need to plug the guitar in as I haven't been able to in quite a while.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 14, 2014, 09:38:38 PM
hey dogfood,  what kind of music do you like to play?

ps, you are now a "mighty mighty mustang" your colors are green and white. the school song is "on Wisconsin"<-don't ask me, I didn't choose it, but that song is cool.

the enemy are the brunstucky blue dildos devils. this would be south of the medina-Dixon line, which around here is known as boston road haha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 14, 2014, 10:03:09 PM
Quote from: agent of change on May 14, 2014, 05:17:52 PM
Well, fuck Ableton. That shit made me want to punch somebody. Just make the shit so there's no latency, don't make me go through tutorials and half a dozen yoga positions to discover that there will be a delay no matter what. Sheeesh. Here's to my second drink of the afternoon, a packed bowl, and nostalgia for when I had a home studio with ProTools that worked just fine on its own.
ok fuck ableton, i'll smoke a bowl too

/solidarity
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 14, 2014, 10:17:37 PM
I'm a natural born riff rocker.  However, these days I've been writing more Boris-esque, longer format shit.  I had a song up here one time and it got 0 hits from youse guys, where is the love I ask you.  :'(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 14, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
I had a great experience doing a whole album of drums with Ableton.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 14, 2014, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on May 14, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
I had a great experience doing a whole album of drums with Ableton.
ok ableton rules. i'll smoke a bowl to that

/stonedarity
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 15, 2014, 01:03:52 AM
I know at least one guy who uses Ableton, and he performs with it.

I've also seen laptops crash before/during peoples' sets, and I never want that to risk anything like that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 15, 2014, 11:05:02 AM
I bought some Ernie Ball strings from Amazon recently. In two of three packs, there were the wrong sized high E. The vendor directed me to an EB rep, who was super apologetic and just sent me a bunch of free replacement strings (and free whole packs) to make good. Figured I'd spread the word.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 15, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
Jibby, the olde ball and chaine lived in Medina for years and her parents live in Brunstucky.  It seems my new roots are deeply imbedded in da souf sieede.  I found the amp fixer online, Hamely, he is out of Brunswick.  Seems everyone is in our neck of the woods. 

Qué estilo de stoner rock Qué te gusta hacer?  Inquiring minds want to know.  I like hard riffing ala Sabbath meats Unsane.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 15, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
ahh, that explains this specific locale. cool, so you are not a total stranger to around here.
ricky medlock's place is/was down off of hadcock(next door to bolt and l ron's) haha hadcock. only in brunstucky heh

ya, I was just curious about what you actually like to play. I haven't figured out what I really like to play yet, so I try everything.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 15, 2014, 01:54:01 PM
I think Imma finna have a problem with some strings soon.  Kidding.  I don't pull shit like that.

Quote from: Lumpy on May 15, 2014, 01:03:52 AM
I know at least one guy who uses Ableton, and he performs with it.

I've also seen laptops crash before/during peoples' sets, and I never want that to risk anything like that.

Not sure if I'll ado any of this electronic stuff live but if I do I won't be using any laptops.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 15, 2014, 04:08:13 PM
My second roommate ever lived up on the NE side and babysat for Jim Fox's brat/and or brats?!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 15, 2014, 07:48:32 PM
Ernie Ball has great customer service, in my experience (but only if you contact them through the website message doohicky, not so much via email).
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Post by: BrianDamage on May 18, 2014, 06:41:02 AM
So after a few years off from playing in bands I have gotten super rusty at singing and playing bass at the same time. Gonna be buckling down and practicing this shit. Anyone have any tips for singing while playing busy 70's style basslines?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 18, 2014, 08:06:46 AM
yay, back in the saddle again for you.

I have some songs that I play and sing. I have to learn the music first, then slowly layer the vocal parts in as I am able to do both parts. you know how some phrases are easier than others. I keep pushing as much as I can and try to like hum the melody if it is still too much. usually the bullshit happens when the music phrasing gets complex with the voice timing of stuff. then I just have to brute force that little part over until I get it.

i'm putting the vocals on Ripple by the dead right now. I can lalala my way through heh. I also have the music down cold so this one is going fast. just the discipline of remembering the words.

I scrambled the words to boot scootin boogie(I hate that fucking song so I had to fuck it up) into cloven hoof boogie.  ok, for starters, brooks and dumb stole that whole rhythm from an older song called the stroll.  that's what caught my attention when I first heard that song from them, like i had heard that before.. it is that repeating 3 chord stroll rhythm.  I had to get that rhythm automatic. once I did, it was a joke to replace all the words with my own.

I have a song of my own where I have arpeggiated chords and have to sing over it. that has been a bitch due to the extra focus needed to pick all the different strings in time and all the same volume etc. I actually had to finally assign 2 syllables to 2 note picks to keep the thing aligned as it went along. maybe when I really get it down I can relax the vocal timing and hang in the phrase ok, but not yet.

last thing, I have noticed that if I can hit a state of de-focus towards any one thing and sort of step back and see it all with the minds eye like the conductor vs the orchestra, the big picture merges and it is easier at that point.  more mélange please. yes duh my eyes are blue.haha

it is such good brain exercise too. I dig the challenge.
Title: Re:
Post by: RacerX on May 18, 2014, 08:36:46 AM
Quote from: BrianDamage on May 18, 2014, 06:41:02 AM
So after a few years off from playing in bands I have gotten super rusty at singing and playing bass at the same time. Gonna be buckling down and practicing this shit. Anyone have any tips for singing while playing busy 70's style basslines?

1) Get started.

2) Repetition, repetition, & repetition.
Title: Re:
Post by: everdrone on May 18, 2014, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: BrianDamage on May 18, 2014, 06:41:02 AM
So after a few years off from playing in bands I have gotten super rusty at singing and playing bass at the same time. Gonna be buckling down and practicing this shit. Anyone have any tips for singing while playing busy 70's style basslines?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

I sing and play guitar/bass, and I realize that many do this live such as Queens of the Stone Age on guitar, but

just listening to the music, I dont give out kudos cause the singer is playing an instrument at the same time or anything.  My music gets more simple to compensate, and the singing is not as good.  somehow I think it is best if the singer just sings.
Title: Re:
Post by: mortlock on May 18, 2014, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: everdrone on May 18, 2014, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: BrianDamage on May 18, 2014, 06:41:02 AM
So after a few years off from playing in bands I have gotten super rusty at singing and playing bass at the same time. Gonna be buckling down and practicing this shit. Anyone have any tips for singing while playing busy 70's style basslines?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk

I sing and play guitar/bass, and I realize that many do this live such as Queens of the Stone Age on guitar, but

just listening to the music, I dont give out kudos cause the singer is playing an instrument at the same time or anything.  My music gets more simple to compensate, and the singing is not as good.  somehow I think it is best if the singer just sings.
unless you happen to be geddy lee or burke shelley..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 18, 2014, 08:06:57 PM
...or if you want a singer who helps carry the gear.
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on May 18, 2014, 10:16:37 PM
Singers who don't play are useless.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 18, 2014, 10:54:50 PM
^ unless they are really really great singers.


My play and sing at the same time trick for new songs is to get the guitar parts down first and then start working in the vocals.
Title: Re:
Post by: mortlock on May 19, 2014, 12:05:06 AM
Quote from: BrianDamage on May 18, 2014, 10:16:37 PM
Singers who don't play are useless.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 19, 2014, 03:15:37 AM
everdrone, don't compromise, practice that hard shit more. the new skill you burn into your brain enables even more harder stuff. if you compromise, you stall out.

edit: I was thinking about dudes who play and sing well. the dude from triumph. I saw them live. he is a force.  Lindsay Buckingham and paul McCartney

adrian belew.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 19, 2014, 07:16:41 AM
well, the good side about singing is that you can write songs on your own and its one less potential flake to deal with, and singers usually do not own a PA anywayz and but headz on fundamental values
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 19, 2014, 11:24:00 AM
I got dragged to the Richardson Wildflower Festival, in suburban hellish Richardson, TX, Saturday night.  Free Cheap Trick show was the highlight of the evening (we completely missed Joan Jett  >:().  Old ass Robin Zander is the real deal, his singing is as good as the goddamn CDs.  No wonder they are still road dogging it.  Bassist Tom Petersson is meh, the drummer wasn't Bun E Carlos but a very pro replacement, and Rick needs to tighten up his chops, he was sloppy on all the lead work.

Point is Robin's vocals are the locomotive that pulls the rest of the music along, it wouldn't matter if he played keytar up there. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 19, 2014, 12:33:26 PM
I love Cheap Trick and agree wholeheartedly about Robin Zander.  I have always thought Rick Nielsen was sloppy and paid more attention to stage antics rather than playing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 19, 2014, 11:05:23 PM
So... to setup a Bandcamp deal you need to setup a Paypal business account which means you need to choose an "Employer ID Number" apparently. Am I way off with this? What do y'all do?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 20, 2014, 02:21:27 AM
My bandcamp got linked to my old personal paypal.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2014, 03:06:23 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on May 20, 2014, 02:21:27 AM
My bandcamp got linked to my old personal paypal.

Much easier than creating a band paypal account and opening a band bank account and more sensible than creating a band paypal only to link it to someone's personal bank account.

There is the issue of taxes but I can't imagine a few hundred bucks max being worth worrying about.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 20, 2014, 12:00:05 PM
playing with the pharaoh supreme. the demos all stay pretty subtle. I wanted to see how much this overlapped the mt-2.  I have tried quite a few distortion boxes out and most go to shit when you crank up the distortion. the mt-2 was more blurble-y, more musical even when puking.

I picked the most strangled clip diode and turned everything mostly all the way up except pre off. this is one very clean very distorted sound. the overtones are plenty musical and do not force yu to just play 2 note power chords or everything else gets lost in the super clip-puke.

this is LP neck pup only through pharaoh supreme then into digital land. hint of delay but nothing crazy. all tones and overtones came from playing. I didn't touch one single knob once I started playing. the song is scraps of a droney middle east sounding thng I am still trying to assemble and I worked around the fretboard a little for demo purposes. this is one fucking awesome box as of right now.


[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/pstest1[/soundcloud]
Title: Re:
Post by: BrianDamage on May 20, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Thing is I have no issues playing guitar and singing. Of course my bass playing is a bit busier than my guitardation.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2014, 01:20:27 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2014, 03:06:23 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on May 20, 2014, 02:21:27 AM
My bandcamp got linked to my old personal paypal.

Much easier than creating a band paypal account and opening a band bank account and more sensible than creating a band paypal only to link it to someone's personal bank account.

There is the issue of taxes but I can't imagine a few hundred bucks max being worth worrying about.

Ehh..

"If you already have a PayPal Personal account, you'll need to upgrade it to a Business account (otherwise you'll have a low limit on the number of credit card transactions, and amount of money, you can accept). "

They don't provide details on how much this low limit and amount of money is.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 20, 2014, 02:35:06 PM
In all fairness I've made two sales ever  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2014, 02:37:49 PM
I'm thinking that starting with a personal account that hasn't been upgraded to a business one is probably fine. We are going to offer it for free although I hope at least some people pay a few bucks.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 20, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
I don't remember having to do this when I started my bandcamp.  I wonder if it would prompt me to if I wanted to upload anything else.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 20, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
I shouldn't even say sales because my stuff is free, I just accept donations.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on May 20, 2014, 06:22:18 PM
The policy probably changed.  We've had the same paypal account since we signed up, and managed to make a bunch of sales.  I feel like the percentage bandcamp makes on sales takes care of the user having to deal with taxes.  That's just a theory though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2014, 11:36:36 PM
My Google searching up posts on Etsy(sp?) forums about the topic of taxes and someone always points out that income is income. I'm hoping to avoid that whole thing but it's surely harder if your band has it's own paypal, bank account, tax id, etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 20, 2014, 11:43:04 PM
I'm an infant. When this is printed out(from a flash drive at Kinkos) it looks all digital and shitty and blurry. I tried some stuff in Gimp and it either did nothing or made it look weird.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/1888576_620242591364265_1884796715_n.png)

Anyone?

edit: aunty to the rescue, she is going to redraw it  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 21, 2014, 01:11:04 AM
hold up. I'll butcher it for you.


what font is it?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 21, 2014, 01:13:38 AM
Ill soopervize.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 21, 2014, 01:58:39 AM
Logo issue: Look at Image Size in your drop-down menu bar. It's probably too small or too low-resolution. Printers are typically printing at 300 dpi (dots per inch) while your monitor is 72 ppi (pixels per inch)* So something that looks awesome on your monitor can look steppy or blurry when you print it out.

Since type is usually live and editable, you should be able to resize your image to the correct dimensions (inches) and resolution (dpi). Unless your logo is a drawing, then you might need to re-scan it.

Beware that print resolution is 300 but e-flyers are only 72. If you want to use an image for both (real flyers, e-flyers) make the real flyer first, and scale it down when you're done for the e-flyer version (save each with different names).

*people use dpi and ppi interchangeably, I dunno if that is incorrect or not. I don't worry about it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 21, 2014, 02:37:07 AM
It's 'dark castle'. I finally downloaded it and will do a test print of different sizes at FedEx in the morning. I had previously only done a mock up on a font site and took a screen shot of it. It's free though and I've got the whole font thing figured out on my computer.

I'll keep the dpi and scaling down stuff in mind. If all else fails my aunt will redraw it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on May 21, 2014, 03:29:25 AM
We don't play anything even remotely like Helmet, but we got a gig opening for them in September. Could be fun ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 21, 2014, 09:03:21 AM
bigger

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff409/enslavedinrot/ORRGEN_zpse1b93aef.jpg)

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff409/enslavedinrot/photosh_zps1f50777b.jpg)

bored
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 21, 2014, 09:39:12 AM
That's a strange font for a dental hygiene product's logo.  :P
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 21, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
Goodbye Texas!



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 21, 2014, 11:24:18 AM
Quote from: dogfood on May 21, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
Goodbye Texas!





and hello Oregon???  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 21, 2014, 11:40:05 AM
Big digital fonts are as simple as not rasterizing so that it retains it's vector mapping and thus is not generated with pixels. If you have to rasterize, do it very last once the size you need is set.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 21, 2014, 12:56:24 PM
We are planning some shows at dental school sororities in Oregon.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 21, 2014, 11:49:45 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/22/3a6eqy9u.jpg)

This was my bass rig for the evening. Absolutely the best sounding rig I've ever played bass through.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 21, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
That a showman 2x15?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 22, 2014, 12:01:16 AM
damn man..where was that. it looks like it would sound awesome..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 22, 2014, 12:20:07 AM
Quote from: RAGER on May 21, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
That a showman 2x15?

That's my jam space/local record store. It is a dual showman 2x15. Eminence delta 15b speakers. Westone Thunder 1A. I think I might buy a second JCM800 now, and split that cab internally for stereo.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 22, 2014, 12:21:33 AM
You so clazy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 22, 2014, 12:25:06 AM
I wish I had a Super twin to put on top.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 22, 2014, 12:35:07 AM
Super twin makes an awesome bass amp.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 22, 2014, 12:52:15 AM
Yeah. Man. I need money.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on May 22, 2014, 05:09:22 AM
Ever sell that Beta lead?  I still haven't got a job, so....
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 22, 2014, 10:30:48 AM
I just realized i played that 800 at a mismatch, with bass, all cranked up, for like five hours and not even a hiccup.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 24, 2014, 12:52:14 PM
I never got the horror stories about the 800, they are hard to mess up unless you are just a gorilla with it.

Currently looking at saving up for another Japanese LP or save up a little more and get a Yanaha SG1000/2000 with no upgrades needed.

I plan to pick up either an VHT Special 6 Ultra or an Ampeg GVT15 for home recording stuff in the next month or so.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 24, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
I'd love to have an SBG.  I have a VHT Special 6 and love it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on May 24, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
Getting ready to go tryout a drummer for a new band. I've got another that I'm waiting to hear back from and a couple guitarists that I'm scheduling jams with as well. I'm trying to restrain my excitement, since I've had a lot of false starts in the past few years with bands, but I'm optimistic.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 24, 2014, 03:34:24 PM
Right on Corey.

I'm not sure if anything will come of it but a drummer friend wants to jam and I'm itching to get a more fuzzy instrumental 2 piece thing going with my baritone.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 24, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
Any Seattle peeps, I'm playing Tractor Tavern tonight on bass with Adrian and the Sickness, opening for Zeparella.

Played Dante's in Portland last night and was a blast.

Guess I should have put the word out I'm traveling for beers/meet up purposes before I actually left hahaha

#slipping


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 24, 2014, 04:14:47 PM
Hey Danny, super sorry I didn't make it out last night.  I have a really big day going on at work today and I had to be on my game 110%.  Mucho dinero at stake and coming out of winter, I need it.


/lamestonerrockfriend
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 24, 2014, 04:37:53 PM
No worries man. Come out to Seattle. I feel more bad for you for missing the show ;)

Holy shit it was awesome. Good times!

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on May 24, 2014, 10:46:02 PM
Have fun at the Tractor, Danny- wish I could make it out tonight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 25, 2014, 10:31:16 AM
Last night played the 2nd night of a 3 night annual fest here in CLT.  Show start at 10:00, 5 bands.  We were last.  We barely got the set started off at last call.  Hate it when that happens.  We finished at 2:30.  Fun set though, just not many people left when we went on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 25, 2014, 10:36:59 AM
Way to buck the usual "deadlining" curse.

Also, starting a five band bill at 10pm is not ideal – it leaves almost no margin for error, etc. You're lucky you got on at all!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 25, 2014, 12:32:16 PM
oh yeah, we were quietly critical of the concept from the moment we saw the schedule.  Venue was cool about our set though, let us play after they collected the drinks at 2:20. Our set is 35 minutes or so.  they thought we cut a song or two to fit, and we didnt tell them otherwise, but we didn't.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 25, 2014, 02:35:53 PM
Even 4 bands can be too many, like if you have to wait for the people in the restaurant upstairs to finish eating and can't start until 10:45. Grrrrrrr.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 25, 2014, 05:36:22 PM
Hello Cleveland!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 25, 2014, 09:51:35 PM
Heh. Go down to my friend Louis' bar in Kent. It's called the Stone Tavern. Great beer election and free rock shows. Tell him Jake says "hi."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 26, 2014, 02:30:40 AM
So after ordering an SG Special pickguard routed for P90's, I took the humbucking pickguard off my SG and realized the body would need to be routed in order to fit soapbar P90's and I really do not want to do that, back to square one. >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 26, 2014, 08:15:44 AM
Quote from: Instant Dan on May 26, 2014, 02:30:40 AM
So after ordering an SG Special pickguard routed for P90's, I took the humbucking pickguard off my SG and realized the body would need to be routed in order to fit soapbar P90's and I really do not want to do that, back to square one. >:(

Not exactly, but you could try these:

http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=265&Category_Code=humbucker-pickups
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on May 26, 2014, 01:00:24 PM
I remember reading the review for them and the boomy thing concerns me.

I'll make a decision on the GFS Mean 90 or the BG Pure 90 in the next week or so as both are called 'as close you can get' humbucking P90's.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on May 26, 2014, 05:29:06 PM
Got a first show booked, it's in november so still a while to go but anyways, yay! We're gonna try and perform before that though since our set is almost tight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 26, 2014, 06:29:33 PM
Looks like a good venue, put it on the favorite menu.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 26, 2014, 06:30:07 PM
Hey Jibby, Dapper Dan's?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 26, 2014, 09:29:47 PM
2x15 supposedly only 69 lbs. Damn. It's hard to imagine that a pair wouldn't destroy. They say they are tuned etc. Wondering how much they are going for used.

(http://assets.peavey.com//images/fullsize/15500200_9782.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on May 26, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
I have some humbucker sized Mean 90s. They sound great.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 01:57:19 AM
Considering that some bass cabs are loaded with PA type speakers I am wondering what the differences are between them and 'bass speakers'. Also, assuming that speaker sensitivity rating isn't as important as cab design for loudness and low end. For guitar I probably wouldn't want anything under 100db but most bass speakers seem to be.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on May 27, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 01:57:19 AM
Considering that some bass cabs are loaded with PA type speakers I am wondering what the differences are between them and 'bass speakers'. Also, assuming that speaker sensitivity rating isn't as important as cab design for loudness and low end. For guitar I probably wouldn't want anything under 100db but most bass speakers seem to be.

Most bass cabs use one or several full range drivers, where most PA cabs typically use a combination of low frequency driver and a tweeter (sometimes also a mid range driver) with a crossover circuit. Of course there's some overlap. Some PA cabs are just one full range driver that has high power handling (like the Eminence Kappa or Beta drivers, which are also popular for bass) and some hi-fi style bass cabs use a LF driver for a sub, with a mid and/or tweeter and crossover. You wouldn't want to use just a LF driver for a bass cab though, since it would sound muffled. A lot of people on bass specific forums think that using a LF is more bass appropriate and will sound "lower", but people in the know generally pipe up to let them know it would just sound like running their amp through a sub.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 11:19:16 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 01:57:19 AM
Considering that some bass cabs are loaded with PA type speakers I am wondering what the differences are between them and 'bass speakers'. Also, assuming that speaker sensitivity rating isn't as important as cab design for loudness and low end. For guitar I probably wouldn't want anything under 100db but most bass speakers seem to be.

Why do you constantly contemplate using tools unsuitable for the job?

It's like insisting on using a hammer when a screwdriver is required—it might work after a bit, but at what cost?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 27, 2014, 12:47:49 PM
There may yet be improvements upon this here "wheel" contraption...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on May 27, 2014, 12:47:49 PM
There may yet be improvements upon this here "wheel" contraption...

Why improve on the wheel?

Use a lever, instead!! Make it work...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 27, 2014, 01:42:34 PM
Sigh. Eminence Delta 15B. Buy some. Put them in a 2x15, and use it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
NO! NO!!! IT CAN'T BE THAT SIMPLE!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 27, 2014, 01:54:46 PM
Nothing wrong at all with being inquisitive.  Dude just wants to know the ins and outs of gear.  Much can be learned through asking questions.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 01:59:19 PM
After years of this, dude does not seem to be learning, hence my frustration.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 02:17:29 PM
Holy Christ... not trying to reinvent anything.

One option for Avatar's current 115 is the Eminence Kappalite 3015LF NEO but if you go to the Eminence website THAT SPEAKER IS NOT LISTED WITH THE 'BASS GUITAR' SPEAKERS, it's listed here with the 'pro-audio' speakers-

http://www.eminence.com/pro-audio/neodymium-series/

This is a tad confusing. It's great that you guys all learned everything there was to learn about gear 20 years ago though, I'm happy for you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 27, 2014, 01:42:34 PM
Sigh. Eminence Delta 15B. Buy some. Put them in a 2x15, and use it.

Sigh? All bass players use this model when loading cabs huh?

http://www.eminence.com/pro-audio/american-standard/?size=15#speakers

Also,

"There are 24 unique models available in our American Standard series. Each was designed for versatility in a range of applications. From 6.5-15" models with applications ranging from standard sub-woofers, two-way enclosures, and coaxials, to truncated line array models, monitor woofers, and high performance midranges setting records for output in car audio, no other loudspeaker line provides more choices, power handling, performance, and reliability for the price."


But I'm just a dumbfuck who doesn't learn anything.


I'M
TERRIBLY
SORRY
FOR
WASTING
EVERYONE'S
VALUABLE
TIME
ASKING
STUPID
QUESTIONS
ABOUT
GEAR
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on May 27, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 01:57:19 AM
Considering that some bass cabs are loaded with PA type speakers I am wondering what the differences are between them and 'bass speakers'. Also, assuming that speaker sensitivity rating isn't as important as cab design for loudness and low end. For guitar I probably wouldn't want anything under 100db but most bass speakers seem to be.

Most bass cabs use one or several full range drivers, where most PA cabs typically use a combination of low frequency driver and a tweeter (sometimes also a mid range driver) with a crossover circuit. Of course there's some overlap. Some PA cabs are just one full range driver that has high power handling (like the Eminence Kappa or Beta drivers, which are also popular for bass) and some hi-fi style bass cabs use a LF driver for a sub, with a mid and/or tweeter and crossover. You wouldn't want to use just a LF driver for a bass cab though, since it would sound muffled. A lot of people on bass specific forums think that using a LF is more bass appropriate and will sound "lower", but people in the know generally pipe up to let them know it would just sound like running their amp through a sub.

This makes perfect sense. What I'm wondering about are the differences between full range drivers and 'bass guitar' speakers. I've never thought a sub would sound good in a bass cab.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 02:31:20 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 01:57:19 AM
Considering that some bass cabs are loaded with PA type speakers I am wondering what the differences are between them and 'bass speakers'. Also, assuming that speaker sensitivity rating isn't as important as cab design for loudness and low end. For guitar I probably wouldn't want anything under 100db but most bass speakers seem to be.

I meant 'full range drivers' when I said 'PA type speakers'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 27, 2014, 02:34:07 PM
I think questions are great!  better to ask then to find out the hard way, in this case being hurting yourself with heavy gear, or having to sell once again and buy replacement

but ya focusing on playing guitar is best, and I am sure liquid is already maxed out in this area as his tunes are good!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 27, 2014, 02:37:38 PM
It's not about wasting people's time as much as it is ignoring all the seasoned advice. Sure, everyone goes on their own quest for tone. No one is challenging your right to do that. But the hypotheticals in this thread alone are, quite frankly, exhausting. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
Quote from: Jake on May 27, 2014, 02:37:38 PM
It's not about wasting people's time as much as it is ignoring all the seasoned advice.

This is not correct.

Quote from: Jake on May 27, 2014, 02:37:38 PMSure, everyone goes on their own quest for tone. No one is challenging your right to do that. But the hypotheticals in this thread alone are, quite frankly, exhausting. 

I'm sorry to have exhausted you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 27, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
You're being defensive and patronizing. But I don't think I've said anything out of line.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 02:53:36 PM
My apologies but I can assure you that much of what I've read on here has soaked in. "Sigh, use this speaker duh" type advice I mostly ignore though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on May 27, 2014, 02:56:00 PM
Full range drivers work for either. Stay away from the "LF" models, those are subs. Beyond that, looks at the Xmax spec, because the lower the Xmax (maximum excursion of the cone) the sooner the speaker will bottom out. Most people only look at the power rating, but that is typically the power input that will theoretically melt the voice coil and you're far more likely to bottom out the cone on a low note before you set the driver on fire. For example, comparing the Eminence Delta to the Legend 15" drivers (Legend is bass specific, Delta is "full range", used for both PA and bass by manufacturers). The Delta has about 100W higher power rating, but less than half the Xmax rating. So it will most likely fart out on lows before it exceeds the power of the Legend. It also has a much bigger bump in the high low/low mid area (~100W), so there are trade offs. It also really depends on the enclosure they're going in, since ideally it should be designed around the driver. Especially if it's ported.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 27, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
He doesn't need a stand-alone bass cab, he wants another cab to supplement his guitar cabs. So maybe PA type speakers would be fine. It's hard to say for sure.

I don't think dude is saving money or "pack space" with a multi-cab solution. He may be saving his back though. (ahem, Mesa/Boogie 4x12 straight cab, why not rent one for a test?)

IMO his bass player might be the one who needs more cabs. Let the bass player handle the lowest frequencies and life is simpler and bands sound better IMO. There's a band here who has a guitar player playing super low, and the bass is more low-mids and mids. And they don't sound as good as they could, IMO.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 27, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
He doesn't need a stand-alone bass cab, he wants another cab to supplement his guitar cabs. So maybe PA type speakers would be fine. It's hard to say for sure.

Jeez, don't you get started on this shit, too.

He needs fucking guitar speakers.  ::)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 27, 2014, 05:28:00 PM
I'm not just throwing shit off my fingers telling you to do a certain thing. I've been using those 15s for guitar for the last five years. It's kind of astonishing you still haven't found a reasonable tone in all this time, and I can plug into a fucking practice amp and sound like I want to.

I'd be willing to bet if I ran a goddamned POD-XT through a PA system at a club, I could find satisfying tone.

PA speakers/bass speakers have always been interchangeable in my eyes long as the numbers work. High handling, high excursion, decent sensitivity, and good frequency range. Using "subs" is only going to yield results up to a certain frequency, or they are crossed over so they only receive a certain frequency, and the rest are routed to better suited speakers.

I mean, hell, if you want to have some fun, build yourself a crossover, send all your lows to a 15 cab, and all your mids/highs to another cab.

I've been using 2 4x12s and a 2x15 for years, I EQ my 2x15 amp fat and round, hardly any highs, and it isn't super ~loud~ but it's definitely the backbone of everything to do with my ~sound~

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 27, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 27, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
He doesn't need a stand-alone bass cab, he wants another cab to supplement his guitar cabs. So maybe PA type speakers would be fine. It's hard to say for sure.

Jeez, don't you get started on this shit, too.

He needs fucking guitar speakers.  ::)

If I said the sky was blue, you'd wanna argue about that too.  ::)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 05:44:27 PM
Maybe he just needs to refocus:

I am selling my Randall V2 Archetype (custom made for Christian Olde Wolbers -- Fear Factory) It is in excellent condition. $1000 for the amp and the programmable footswitch. Haven't decided if I am selling the Randall Cab in the pictures or not. (guitar not for sale) May be open to trade for an Orange Head-50 watts or more/ Rockerverb

Developed for the guitarist who likes multiple tone shaping options, the highly complex V2 can basically produce any tone you want utilizing a full tube preamp, as well as a classic Randall solid-state preamp.

Review, Specs, and Pricing info From Guitar Player Mag-
BRAND Randall
MODEL V2 Archetype
CHANNELS Three
CONTROLS (Clean channel) Gain, Level, Bass, Middle, Treble (pull boost), Presence. (Overdrive channel) Gain, Level, Bass, Middle, Treble (pull boost), Presence. (Tube Overdrive channel) Gain, Bass, Middle, Level, Attack switch (Loose/Tight), Bright switch. Global Master, Density, Presence controls, 6-band graphic EQ
POWER 400 watts
TUBES Four JJ 12AX7s,
EXTRAS Fan cooling, effects loop w/ series/parallel switch and send and return level controls, slave out with level control, XLR direct out, dual speaker jacks (can accommodate 2?, 4?, and 8?loads), voltage selector, MIDI In and Thru jacks, footswitch included
SPEAKER Randall RS412XLT100BC 4x12 w/Mic Eliminator D.I. outs; $879 street
WEIGHT 33.8 lbs (head)
MAXIMUM MEASURED VOLUME 127 dB
KUDOS Furious distortion. Super tight response. A beast in
the power department.
ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR AMPS WE'VE EVER TESTED, THE V2 ARCHETYPE IS A HYBRID design that couples a solid-state or tube preamp (the latter is activated in Tube Overdrive mode only) to a MOSFET output section (with a tube driver stage) that can pump a blistering 480 watts into 2? or 400 watts into 4?. The V2's three channels are selected via front-panel switches or with the included 5-button footcontroller that plugs into the MIDI In jack on the rear panel. Channel switching and activation of the effects loop and graphic EQ can also be controlled by external MIDI commands. Designed to deliver a broad range of clean to furiously overdriven tones, the V2 does so without the duplication of knobs and switches you find on some multi-channel heads. The Clean and S.S. (solidstate) Overdrive channels share a set of tone controls, and there is a volume boost function when you pull the Treble pot, which only works in S.S. mode. The Tube Overdrive channel has its own EQ controls along with Attack and Bright switches. Completing the knob count are global Master, Density, and Presence controls, as well as a 6-band graphic EQ that can be assigned to any of the channels.

Appearance-wise, the Archetype looks cool with its metal faceplate, blue indicator lights, and thick metal grille. Tech geeks will appreciate the giant power transformer and the large heat sink in the center of the chassis, which has a fan atop it to pull cooling air though the silicon transistors. Recessed handles on the 49 lb head make it easy to carry.

The V2 is all about gain and headroom. The fun begins with the S.S. Overdrive channel, where we find the distortion coming on strong with the Gain up about halfway. This is where you get your heavy crunch tones, which can sound positively sinister when you click on the graphic EQ with the sliders set in "V" formation with a scoop in the middle frequencies and boosted highs and lows. The chunk factor of these tones is ridiculous, especially when you crank the Level and Master controls to one half or higher and start feeling the sheer horsepower that lies under the V2's hood. Drop down to D or C, and the rumble shakes your insides. Switching into Tube Overdrive mode brings the V2's highest gain preamp on line. Its dynamic sensitivity and great blend of tightness and tube compression allows you to dial in scathing lead tones with as much sustain as you want. The Attack switch tailors the response for a looser or tighter feel to best accommodate your picking style, and the Bright switch adds a cutting edge that allows solos to slice through a mix. The V2 Archetype isn't the most flexible amp around-- its clean sounds are sterile, and it's also very noisy when you really crank up the gain and volume--but Randall knows a thing or two about metal amps, and, if that's your sound, you'll definitely want to give this monster a try.

http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/msg/4490486506.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on May 27, 2014, 05:49:20 PM
Oh, is it for guitar? Don't do it then. Bass speakers won't make guitars sound deeper, they're not voiced the same. Basses put out lower notes, so they just don't cut the low end the strings or producing. They won't create anymore low end where it doesn't exist. The stuff I was discussing, I'm assuming it's a bass specific driver vs general/PA full range drivers for bass cab use.

I've gone through the whole "can I use bass speakers/cabs/heads/effects for guitar?" thing a hundred times with other people and tried every version of that myself. Sometimes they're generic enough to use, but nothing makes a guitar sound deeper because it's meant for bass. Kind of like putting giant guitars on a jeep won't make it drive like a monster truck.

if it's for an actual bass/amp, apply as directed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 27, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
That's the part I meant about ignoring advice. That's been discussed here ad infinitum. I really don't want to seem like I'm finger wagging, so that's the last I'll say on the subject.

Carry on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 06:46:08 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 27, 2014, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 27, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
He doesn't need a stand-alone bass cab, he wants another cab to supplement his guitar cabs. So maybe PA type speakers would be fine. It's hard to say for sure.

Jeez, don't you get started on this shit, too.

He needs fucking guitar speakers.  ::)

If I said the sky was blue, you'd wanna argue about that too.  ::)

Well, it's not really blue...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 27, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
I like Liquid, dude's cool, we've shot the shit over beers, his band's pretty darn good (DoooM !) but I too get weary reading the incessant questions when in my opinion he doesn't require anything more than what he had before (Matamp, then a Laney AOR) and a couple 4x12's with differently-voiced speaker array (mix V30's with What-Nots ;)

Can he ask a zillion questions though? Fuckin' A right he can, it's the damn Jam Room. Seek ye tone as you shall sir !

/both sides o' the coin
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 27, 2014, 11:36:12 PM
Wow.

I'm looking into bass gear for my F# baritone for a new band idea, not for Orogen. Split signal- 'guitar' side, 'bass' side. Orogen started this way but I never had a loud bass side.

I'm simply curious as to the differences between speakers marketed as 'bass guitar' speakers and the full range drivers that are sometimes used in bass cabs. I'm not fretting about this whatsoever, I'm not agonizing over a decision. Also, I have no interest in subs. I should have used the term 'full range drivers' right away but I made the mistake of calling them PA speakers.

If anyone wants to argue that an F# baritone player wouldn't have a use for bass equipment in a 2 piece we can go there but I'm going to disagree. Got a low end used 4x10 for $150 last week and although it's nowhere near the volume of my guitar 'side' rig it's a good start before I invest in something louder. Very little of this is a mystery to me at this point. Low end volume requires enough speakers and enough power and if the cabs are properly designed that is a big help. I have a power amp that will do 800 watts 8 ohms bridged or 400x2 at 4 ohms per channel. This unit will probably do the job with the right cab or cabs.

Thank you M&B and thank you Corey for the details.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 28, 2014, 12:02:27 AM
Quote from: RacerX on May 27, 2014, 05:44:27 PM
Maybe he just needs to refocus:

I am selling my Randall V2 Archetype


Sounds like it might be one of the rare times a company didn't skimp on the tube preamp for a hybrid head but that's a lot of money and I'm good with the pedal into Dual Showman deal.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 29, 2014, 03:16:29 AM
Blog time.
Talking shit repeatedly about a bandmate on an internet forum your bandmate is aware of is pretty fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 29, 2014, 07:34:10 AM
"my guitarist drives a Pontiac vibe, whata fag"   :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on May 29, 2014, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Jake on May 27, 2014, 02:37:38 PM

It's not about wasting people's time as much as it is ignoring all the seasoned advice.



There is a Lawry's vs McCormick* joke in there somewhere, but it's too early in the morning.

Spice Rack Mount....yadda yadda yadda




*mr know-it-all should be around shortly
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 29, 2014, 09:07:28 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 29, 2014, 07:34:10 AM
"my guitarist drives a Pontiac vibe, whata fag"   :-D :-D :-D

"...and he runs a Fender Super Twin into four tiny, pink 1x8" extension cabinets loaded with neos..."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 29, 2014, 10:32:43 AM
Right on cue.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 29, 2014, 11:15:35 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/29/ru3umura.jpg)


This is my new girlfriend.

I have to fix it. Waahhhh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 29, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
Quote from: RAGER on May 29, 2014, 10:32:43 AM
Right on cue.

You're quite welcome!

You were late, so I stood in for ya.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on May 29, 2014, 11:44:03 AM
I finally got a drummer locked down for a new band, plus got a practice space (hourly rehearsal, it'll do) and set a regular practice schedule. On to trying out guitarists now, hopefully one of the few I'm already talking to pans out. I'm in a new frame of mind for doing bands, seems to be paying off.


Quote from: SunnO))) on May 29, 2014, 11:15:35 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/29/ru3umura.jpg)


This is my new girlfriend.

I have to fix it. Waahhhh.

Ooooh, neato. What's wrong with it?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 29, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Dunno.

Shouldn't be hard to figure. Im gonna say tubes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on May 29, 2014, 11:52:10 AM

Can I Have It ?™
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 29, 2014, 12:02:49 PM
I think i get it for a little while before it goes home, I'll cherish my time and make a video... And gunshots.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on May 29, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
Dear Client,

    Amp burned up in freak lightning strike. Act of God, no refunds. Do not come looking for remains.

Signed,

   Jake (the guy who does not have your amp, stop asking)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 29, 2014, 12:31:05 PM
I remember hearing about those Blue amps that were commissioned for Blue Man Group. They all died within something like a month of delivery.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 29, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
I thought the BMG had matamps. Not these true American wonders of sound. Modeled after a visionary's dream.


buttpussy
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 29, 2014, 01:04:15 PM
Quote from: Jake on May 29, 2014, 12:31:05 PM
I remember hearing about those Blue amps that were commissioned for Blue Man Group. They all died within something like a month of delivery.

They had weak trannies, I believe.















No pun intended.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 29, 2014, 01:30:30 PM
Weak Xfmrs was a Matamp trait.  Lordfinesse went through the whole ordeal, only to replace it with a Mercury Magnetics. After that, the things been solid. Pretty sure the EA's already are/were equipped with MMs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on May 29, 2014, 02:21:56 PM
The Blew Man Groop amp saga was a pretty good chapter in the Joel Buttpussy Battle Book.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 29, 2014, 02:30:50 PM
It's powder blue not blew man group blue.

Sure does look good.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on May 29, 2014, 03:04:44 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 29, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Dunno.

Shouldn't be hard to figure. Im gonna say tubes.

Maybe it BLUE a fuse.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 29, 2014, 03:41:27 PM
Bolt belongs to the Blew Men Group.


/movethisquiptoGDsohecanseeit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on May 29, 2014, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 29, 2014, 11:15:35 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/29/ru3umura.jpg)


This is my new girlfriend.

I have to fix it. Waahhhh.
Shit, that blue is cool!  Imagine running that AND an acoustic control 360 together.  So much  powder blue power.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 29, 2014, 11:40:16 PM
it does make an unexpectedly awesome color for an amp. it should be so gay but its not..i mean think about it. if I went up to you and said im thinking of making a line of powder blue amps for heavy bands..what would you say??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 30, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
I'd say they match my bathroom, and that's fucking tight. Y'all need to get over this whole "this shit is gay, that shit is gay," and realize that some shit is just awesome.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 30, 2014, 12:41:56 AM
I call shit 'gay' as my own homage to Seth Putnam from time to time..

anal cunt could have easily had a track called 'powder blue amps are gay'..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 30, 2014, 05:03:25 AM
Please get rid of that tolex.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on May 30, 2014, 07:52:27 AM
Yeah, that amp needs some serious weight reduction. Tolex will help.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on May 30, 2014, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 29, 2014, 11:15:35 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/29/ru3umura.jpg)


This is my new girlfriend.

I have to fix it. Waahhhh.

That is RIDICULOUSLY cool!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on May 30, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 30, 2014, 05:03:25 AM
Please get rid of that tolex.

YES!  NANCICORE! CABCORE!  the tolex must go!  NOT CORE ENUF!  TOO LOUD AND HEAVY, GET AN AXEFXII OR KEMPER INSTEAD!!
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on May 30, 2014, 09:54:14 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on May 30, 2014, 07:52:27 AM
Yeah, that amp needs some serious weight reduction. Tolex will help.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on May 30, 2014, 10:42:39 AM
So who used these?  I'm not expert on Blue Man Group, but I recall them being a predominately percussion band so I suspect a reference to them is some sort of joke that I don't get.  Regardless, I want to know more about that amp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on May 30, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
YO)))

(http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20091020/russian_wiggers_31.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 30, 2014, 03:06:45 PM
I went to Splawn once and they were building the dude from 24/7 Spyz an amp that looked like a 57 Chevy, mint and cream.  Shit was awesome.  I think I've seen similar since, but not before that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on May 30, 2014, 05:26:10 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on May 30, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
YO)))

(http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20091020/russian_wiggers_31.jpg)

Lol!! ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 31, 2014, 12:00:54 AM
Crunk Chalice!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on May 31, 2014, 12:02:48 AM
And, I would pimp a powder blue feather boa whilst playing that amp because, maaaaaaaaaaaan!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 31, 2014, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on May 30, 2014, 10:42:39 AM
So who used these?  I'm not expert on Blue Man Group, but I recall them being a predominately percussion band so I suspect a reference to them is some sort of joke that I don't get.  Regardless, I want to know more about that amp.

I think there is a guitar player too, maybe offstage for musical interludes. Never seen them live though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on May 31, 2014, 07:37:41 AM
they have a house band, who are not blue, but wear light-up suits (or did when i saw them in ~'02).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on May 31, 2014, 09:46:58 AM
Yes. Lots of musicians stacked up behind the three blue fellas. Can sorta see them up on the rigging at around 5:25.

http://youtu.be/lc3pqQSADY0 (http://youtu.be/lc3pqQSADY0)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 01, 2014, 01:12:39 PM
killer review of the 5 way orgasm of death lp..great place to start if you want to get into power electronics and HNW.
I do some synth work on the foot and mouth disease tracks.

http://fuckedbynoise.blogspot.com/ (http://fuckedbynoise.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on June 01, 2014, 03:25:20 PM
I forced myself to release the new stuff as my Black Metal project but actually there's only one Black Metal song on it. Three are doomy soundscapes and one is rather cold-sounding ambient.

Also, I started looking for a label but honestly I don't believe in success, as project lacks any vocals (purposely) and has shitty drum machine. Well, there's no bass there as well so... :D
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 01, 2014, 05:47:13 PM
Quote from: Omlet on June 01, 2014, 03:25:20 PMI forced myself to release the new stuff as my Black Metal project but actually there's only one Black Metal song on it. Three are doomy soundscapes and one is rather cold-sounding ambient.

Also, I started looking for a label but honestly I don't believe in success, as project lacks any vocals (purposely) and has shitty drum machine. Well, there's no bass there as well so... :D

Make tabs out and ill record bass.

I think im going to do a one man black metal thing for a while, again. I did a full black metal band and it was fun, but the drummer wasn't up to snuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 01, 2014, 06:21:35 PM
Couldn't do the facial expressions or couldn't afford the makeup?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 01, 2014, 06:28:23 PM
He was just a sloppy bitch. Bad blasts. No footwork, all talk.

I played drums for a show when he was sick and it was made apparent how bad he was, and I'm also a sloppy bitch because i play very seldomly.

Also, the bass player was a wicked drunk. One show, I secretly slaved his bass amp from my guitar amp, and plugged him into a jack that wasn't hooked up internally.

Then one night the other guitarist took the bass from him mid set and played the rest of the show on bass.

We decided to quit playing music with those guys. I taught guitar2 how to play, so we're a tight match in guitar/guitar and guitar/bass situations.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 02, 2014, 09:32:14 AM
Of all genres black metal seems big on one man projects, I like it...

John and I have done a lot of two peice black metal jamming but never have the time with Coltsblood being so busy, I hope to do it properly some time!

Bad blasts = no blasts = no black metalz project :(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on June 02, 2014, 11:19:01 AM
With a little "creativity", bad blasts can be fashioned into kvlt crustgrind  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 02, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
add some no washing for 12 months and you've even got Tr00 kvlt crustgrind!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 02, 2014, 03:35:33 PM
I really dig that Coltsblood stuff as well. I had heard some older demo stuff a while back but I would say that the new one is a quantum leap forward. Congratulations on all the upcoming gig, tours, recordings, etc. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on June 02, 2014, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: Jake on June 02, 2014, 03:35:33 PM
I really dig that Coltsblood stuff as well. I had heard some older demo stuff a while back but I would say that the new one is a quantum leap forward. Congratulations on all the upcoming gig, tours, recordings, etc.  
ya, very cool!!! +1
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 02, 2014, 07:10:18 PM
Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 03, 2014, 06:13:31 AM
so, not only have I created a new genre: black math, but I have the name of the band which came from some thread I was screwing around in: Autistic Einstein.
I see a vision of the band logo too.

mortay, I wish you were closer to clevo. we have the coolest most hilarious outlaw pirate generator jam opportunity of EVER coming up in late june. there is a big jazzfest at tri-c(local college). it sounds like all the big names play inside where you buy tickets to get in, but outside will be tons of smaller fame bands and local groups etc.   

my bro in law's Honda generator is fucking quiet. I could borrow that instead of the Stanley I have.
we could sneak in on the fringe and call it avante garde jazz, then put on the most obnoxious noise blitz and see if any people act like they get this heh.
Autistic Einstein would explain it all so people would probably just absorb it to see what it is until they grossed out enough. those 2 sax guys would rule this scene.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2014, 01:32:13 PM
Buddy of mine wants a gig worthy rig for hard rock/punk type sounds. He has never owned anything other than practice amps and wants a tube head with good cleans. I'm thinking it would be hard for him to go wrong with a Classic 50 combo and extension cab if he needs more volume. Of course I've tried to encourage him to get eight 1x12s and a 2,000 watt power amp but he doesn't like that idea. ;)

Wonderin' if you folks had any ideas. He doesn't want to spend Marshall money. Any random cheaper tube head with a clean channel and a low end 4x12 would probably also work for him but I don't see the point in getting beginner gear at his age if he can avoid it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on June 03, 2014, 01:34:28 PM
Classic 50 or similar sounds like a solid choice to me. Get anything that can run an extension cab and you're in business.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2014, 01:45:19 PM
He says he would prefer a head but there aren't that many similar amps in a head version on the lower end of the price spectrum. The Classic heads seem to be pretty rare. Thinking a XXX might also work although I've heard mixed things about it's clean channel and the quality of it's non-high gain rock tones.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on June 03, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
JCM900s of almost any flavor are Peavey money, these days. Great amps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2014, 01:55:54 PM
Ah. Clean channel? I've never played one. I always assumed they were an 800 with more distortion.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 03, 2014, 01:59:11 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on June 03, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
JCM900s of almost any flavor are Peavey money, these days. Great amps.

Really? Classic 50s are like $400 used.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on June 03, 2014, 03:15:57 PM
If he's jumping head first into head and cab, cool, but the combo to me is an affordable, expandable way to get a big, bad ass rig in two steps. XXX is more high gain modern sound, basically a budget JSX. While awesome, it's different. The crunch channel on a JSX is great, so I assume the XXX is as well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 03, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
I would have thought a DSL but I saw one at my buddy's shop yesterday for $900.  Guess they ain't as cheap as they recently were.  Thought 900's were up there too.  However there is a 100xb and a 4x12 for $500.  That seemed pretty solid to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 03, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2014, 01:32:13 PM
Buddy of mine wants a gig worthy rig for hard rock/punk type sounds. He has never owned anything other than practice amps and wants a tube head with good cleans. I'm thinking it would be hard for him to go wrong with a Classic 50 combo and extension cab if he needs more volume. Of course I've tried to encourage him to get eight 1x12s and a 2,000 watt power amp but he doesn't like that idea. ;)

Wonderin' if you folks had any ideas. He doesn't want to spend Marshall money. Any random cheaper tube head with a clean channel and a low end 4x12 would probably also work for him but I don't see the point in getting beginner gear at his age if he can avoid it.

my first thought was that xxx my son has. geee-zuss is that thing loud. plenty of gain for loud and clean. those peaveys are cheaper than most other 100w tube amps from what I have seen.
I heard a blues deville combo cut through a giant carvin house PA. that is only half marshall money

a fender twin reverb.  I seriously bet that is the loudest combo there is. ( ok 1.5 times marshall money, but this is the amp he wants. you know it, I know it, now G.A.S. him up with hi-test and let him run....haha)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 03, 2014, 04:04:29 PM
Quote from: RAGER on June 03, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
However there is a 100xb and a 4x12 for $500.  That seemed pretty solid to me.

Not fully a tube amp, but those can sound pretty heavy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on June 03, 2014, 11:10:54 PM
http://madison.craigslist.org/msg/4503205395.html


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 04, 2014, 01:01:50 AM
^ there you go.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 04, 2014, 01:44:09 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on June 03, 2014, 03:15:57 PM
If he's jumping head first into head and cab, cool, but the combo to me is an affordable, expandable way to get a big, bad ass rig in two steps. XXX is more high gain modern sound, basically a budget JSX. While awesome, it's different. The crunch channel on a JSX is great, so I assume the XXX is as well.

Yeah a 2x12 combo just makes sense to me, for him, lol. I sometimes see the XXX listed for $300 and am mighty curious about them myself.

Quote from: RAGER on June 03, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
I would have thought a DSL but I saw one at my buddy's shop yesterday for $900.  Guess they ain't as cheap as they recently were.  Thought 900's were up there too.  However there is a 100xb and a 4x12 for $500.  That seemed pretty solid to me.

Do you mean x100b? A shop here also has one with a 4x12 for that price. I like my combo conversion of it although it puts off a lot of heat which makes me kind of nervous.

Quote from: jibberish on June 03, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
a fender twin reverb.  I seriously bet that is the loudest combo there is. ( ok 1.5 times marshall money, but this is the amp he wants. you know it, I know it, now G.A.S. him up with hi-test and let him run....haha)

I thought of that too but assume they cost more than Classic 50s. 1.5 times marshall money though? Really? Used? That doesn't sound right.

Quote from: RacerX on June 03, 2014, 04:04:29 PM
Quote from: RAGER on June 03, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
However there is a 100xb and a 4x12 for $500.  That seemed pretty solid to me.

Not fully a tube amp, but those can sound pretty heavy.

The '100xb' thing is screwing me up here. I Googled it and can only assume he meant 'x100b' because I couldn't find any info on it the other way around. It thought these were pure tube.

Quote from: the diddler on June 03, 2014, 11:10:54 PM
http://madison.craigslist.org/msg/4503205395.html

I had one for a few weeks and thought it sounded mediocre.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: moose23 on June 04, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2014, 01:32:13 PM
Buddy of mine wants a gig worthy rig for hard rock/punk type sounds. He has never owned anything other than practice amps and wants a tube head with good cleans. I'm thinking it would be hard for him to go wrong with a Classic 50 combo and extension cab if he needs more volume. Of course I've tried to encourage him to get eight 1x12s and a 2,000 watt power amp but he doesn't like that idea. ;)

Wonderin' if you folks had any ideas. He doesn't want to spend Marshall money. Any random cheaper tube head with a clean channel and a low end 4x12 would probably also work for him but I don't see the point in getting beginner gear at his age if he can avoid it.

Laney
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on June 04, 2014, 09:25:37 AM
Quote from: Jake on May 12, 2014, 01:29:26 PM
Fire sale. Good shit, great prices.

Peavey Classic 50: $325/shipped. Details: http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/4458992656.html (http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/4458992656.html)
(http://images.craigslist.org/00n0n_3DDKqd4UDDl_600x450.jpg)


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on June 04, 2014, 10:20:25 AM
Quote from: moose23 on June 04, 2014, 08:20:41 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2014, 01:32:13 PM
Buddy of mine wants a gig worthy rig for hard rock/punk type sounds. He has never owned anything other than practice amps and wants a tube head with good cleans. I'm thinking it would be hard for him to go wrong with a Classic 50 combo and extension cab if he needs more volume. Of course I've tried to encourage him to get eight 1x12s and a 2,000 watt power amp but he doesn't like that idea. ;)

Wonderin' if you folks had any ideas. He doesn't want to spend Marshall money. Any random cheaper tube head with a clean channel and a low end 4x12 would probably also work for him but I don't see the point in getting beginner gear at his age if he can avoid it.

Laney

I have a monster 2x12 100 watt combo Laney TT100 for sale.  Tell him he can sound like Tony Iommi.  Offers accepted.

https://reverb.com/item/83460-laney-tt100-3-channel-all-tube-footswitchable (https://reverb.com/item/83460-laney-tt100-3-channel-all-tube-footswitchable)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on June 04, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
Finally started work on my basement to get it ready for band rehearsal.  I bought a house (about a year ago) with a primary motivation being a place to play music.  Took my shit into the basement and started looking around for an outlet...not a single fucking one.  Well, finally got around to running a couple 20 amp circuits to that side and wired up some outlets.  Now I need to think about additional/cool lighting and get that wired up so I can put in a drop ceiling and insulate. 

Any ideas on cool lighting?  I think lighting from underneath looks great but not sure how to implement without building a raised floor or stage, which seems a bit overkill.  Lighting can really set the vibe for jamming and now's the time to do it right before the joists are hard to get to.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on June 04, 2014, 11:07:15 AM
x100b is all tube with ss added to the pre section for more "hot rodding" not Judas Priest Hot Rocking.  And, Laneys don't pop up very often and not at bargain prices.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 04, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: moose23 on June 04, 2014, 08:20:41 AMLaney

Any particular models?

Quote from: dogfood on June 04, 2014, 11:07:15 AM
x100b is all tube with ss added to the pre section for more "hot rodding" not Judas Priest Hot Rocking.

I somehow never read this before but it makes sense as the full up distortion sound isn't all that rich sounding. The clean channel is very nice though.

Quote from: dogfood on June 04, 2014, 11:07:15 AM
And, Laneys don't pop up very often and not at bargain prices.

GH50s go for $300 something on ebay but they don't have a true clean channel.


My friend doesn't think a Classic 50 will have enough balls for him so for budget amps I think his best bet is a XXX.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on June 04, 2014, 12:38:02 PM
That Laney I listed can go for $600.  It's clean channel reminds me of an 80s Metallica-esque clean sound.  Crystal clear and punchy with great reverb.  The overdrive channel is good and gritty and the 3rd channel has all the gain you could ever want.  The only downside is it's a heavy son of a bitch.  All the channels (along with reverb and 2nd master/solo boost) are all footswitchable. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on June 04, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on June 04, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
Any ideas on cool lighting? 

Pics of the space, and we are in business.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 04, 2014, 01:10:49 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on June 04, 2014, 12:38:02 PM
That Laney I listed can go for $600.  It's clean channel reminds me of an 80s Metallica-esque clean sound.  Crystal clear and punchy with great reverb.  The overdrive channel is good and gritty and the 3rd channel has all the gain you could ever want.  The only downside is it's a heavy son of a bitch.  All the channels (along with reverb and 2nd master/solo boost) are all footswitchable. 

Sounds like a killer amp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 04, 2014, 01:14:13 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on June 04, 2014, 10:26:56 AM
Finally started work on my basement to get it ready for band rehearsal.  I bought a house (about a year ago) with a primary motivation being a place to play music.  Took my shit into the basement and started looking around for an outlet...not a single fucking one.  Well, finally got around to running a couple 20 amp circuits to that side and wired up some outlets.  Now I need to think about additional/cool lighting and get that wired up so I can put in a drop ceiling and insulate. 

Any ideas on cool lighting?  I think lighting from underneath looks great but not sure how to implement without building a raised floor or stage, which seems a bit overkill.  Lighting can really set the vibe for jamming and now's the time to do it right before the joists are hard to get to.


I use something like this, works great and is adjustable when we want super dark stage simulation.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31qumnikVTL._SY300_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 04, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
It's cool that this actually works.
[cloudset]https://soundcloud.com/orogen/sets/demo[/cloudset]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 04, 2014, 04:45:18 PM
I believe that 80's clean Metalica-esque is a JC-120.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on June 04, 2014, 06:22:22 PM


Quote from: dogfood on June 04, 2014, 11:07:15 AM
x100b is all tube with ss added to the pre section for more "hot rodding" not Judas Priest Hot Rocking.

I somehow never read this before but it makes sense as the full up distortion sound isn't all that rich sounding. The clean channel is very nice though.

[/quote]

For the straight up Marshall tone: 

1)Use the lower input to plug into, it has less gain and sounds smoother.
2)Do not pull out the lead gain knobby, too much gain
3)Keep the graphic eq use to a minimum. active circuits add noise.
4)Stick to the gain and mstr volume.

Voila-Marshall
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 04, 2014, 08:37:51 PM
Upstairs jam rig the other day.  I just grab what I can and set it up and see what happens.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21021_zps523cf915.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21021_zps523cf915.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 04, 2014, 11:07:38 PM
^ nice!


Quote from: dogfood on June 04, 2014, 06:22:22 PM
For the straight up Marshall tone: 

1)Use the lower input to plug into, it has less gain and sounds smoother.
2)Do not pull out the lead gain knobby, too much gain
3)Keep the graphic eq use to a minimum. active circuits add noise.
4)Stick to the gain and mstr volume.

Voila-Marshall

Sounds about right. Is the diode only activated with the lead knob pulled out?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on June 05, 2014, 12:17:26 AM
I ain't no ingineeear so I cannot say for sure but this is the how I ran mine prior to it being thefted cause it sounded like a rock amp and would handle most pedals but the moment you pull out that lead knobby it was no bueno.
Also:
100w setting
4x12 cab

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 05, 2014, 05:25:53 AM
hey father o'blivion, sounds like you're setting up a nice catacomb there. check these crazy cfl bulbs out. true colored phosphors, no colored glass or other fail filter bullshit, just rich monochrome. hypnotic. I love these things. I pick them up at home depot, but you can get them online like at amazon cheaper

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electric-13-Watt-60W-Black-Twist-CFL-Light-Bulb-BPESL15T-BLB/100553168

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KNND9xeCL._SX342_.jpg)

edit: check out rapidled for led drivers and cree led's. a constant current 700mA driver that runs from like 4-14 led's in a series string is $15, dimmable-$20. the cree leds are various wattages and cost from a buck or two to maybe $6 each. make your own aluminum heat sinks. fuck buying them. you can snake leds pretty much anywhere, and those crees will blind you with no lens on, like sneaking a peak at arc welding . fucking amazing

my test rig on the science project tank has been going 12hrs a day for 2.5 years now, not a hitch. I have 8 3 watt cree leds and the $15 driver...whole thing uses like 25watts, and the light cast down into the tank is amazing, but leds are better for spotting , fluorescent is better for filling.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on June 05, 2014, 11:20:09 AM
Awesome, thanks for the info. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 05, 2014, 06:21:05 PM
i love those lights too. got them all over the house. if you see the green one on, you know its 420 time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 06, 2014, 08:11:29 AM
hah!  :D


So this is what last nights gig looked like....

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/CircusFreak000/IMG_1274_zpsa5883db4.jpg)

We were playing in a bar basement and I ordered a veggie dog a couple of hours before we were due to play, turned out to have nuts in it and I'm allergic. I tried to pretend it was ok for an hour until my entire body turned bright red and I was itching like hell all over. We spent all night in the hospital and the whole time I was contemplating running back to play our set, rubbish....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 06, 2014, 11:17:44 AM
Jeebus Jem!  hope you're feeling better.  Didn't see that one coming.  pwned by a veg dog.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on June 06, 2014, 11:22:13 AM
Quotepwned by a veg dog.

that made me laugh  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 06, 2014, 03:48:52 PM
Yikes! Fuck allergies in the butthole.


Saw Grotto(Cuda dudes plus a singer) last night for I think the third time. Bass player had a Matamp and an Orange going into two 8x10s. Whoa. Great set. I hope they record these songs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 06, 2014, 04:44:08 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on June 06, 2014, 08:11:29 AM
hah!  :D


So this is what last nights gig looked like....

(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/CircusFreak000/IMG_1274_zpsa5883db4.jpg)

We were playing in a bar basement and I ordered a veggie dog a couple of hours before we were due to play, turned out to have nuts in it and I'm allergic. I tried to pretend it was ok for an hour until my entire body turned bright red and I was itching like hell all over. We spent all night in the hospital and the whole time I was contemplating running back to play our set, rubbish....
total metal..that splotch of blood even looks like a pentagram a little..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 07, 2014, 02:42:34 AM
\m/

liquid, I checked out your sound cloudburst.  nice tunes. cool vocals.
the only thing that hit me strange was it sounded like you eq'd everything out pretty heavily from the upper midrange on up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 07, 2014, 03:11:30 AM
Quote from: jibberish on June 07, 2014, 02:42:34 AM
\m/

liquid, I checked out your sound cloudburst.  nice tunes. cool vocals.
the only thing that hit me strange was it sounded like you eq'd everything out pretty heavily from the upper midrange on up.

Thanks for listening. There is a lack of upper mids and highs for sure. The next recording should be more full and clear sounding.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 07, 2014, 12:41:51 PM
Got 2 new monobox synths coming this week.  Picking up a Waldorf Rocket tomorrow and my Meeblip Anode should be here mid week.

Contemplating selling the Shruthi I built.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on June 07, 2014, 08:02:32 PM


I may have aks'd this before - Which one of yous owns this ?



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Brookman/blackpower_zps67a6ff0b.jpeg)
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: BrianDamage on June 07, 2014, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 03, 2014, 01:45:19 PM
He says he would prefer a head but there aren't that many similar amps in a head version on the lower end of the price spectrum. The Classic heads seem to be pretty rare. Thinking a XXX might also work although I've heard mixed things about it's clean channel and the quality of it's non-high gain rock tones.
Unless he needs country style clean at high volume a classic 50 would be killer.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 07, 2014, 11:59:52 PM
a few pics from last nights show..
PENIS GEYSER with an assist from Joe [TUURD]with the drums.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10447170_815199541825945_1531171694_n.jpg?oh=324f082ffd48fe1922cae52b6a49bb66&oe=5395EAC9)
HADES MINING Co.
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10344810_646499495437493_3926790856153272294_n.jpg)
Montys Krown Rochester NY. 6.6.14
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 09, 2014, 11:59:42 AM
My girl got me a new mascot.  I love me some crows.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21121_zpsbe510e53.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21121_zpsbe510e53.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 09, 2014, 10:51:03 PM
Got a great deal on a used Chinese G-400 SG but it has a somewhat thick neck and doesn't have the body mass to balance it out so it neck dives just like my early faded Gibson did(although that thing had a beastial neck for some reason). I swear the Indonesian Epiphones have thinner necks, at least the LPs anyway. Grrrr... I think this guy is going back to GC. Maybe only the 'specials' have the thin necks actually.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 09, 2014, 11:03:32 PM
Reposition strap button to top "horn."

Balance problem solved.

(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv55/paruwi6172/spamCrazy/episgstrapbuttons.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 09, 2014, 11:15:24 PM
Quote from: RacerX on June 09, 2014, 11:03:32 PM
Reposition strap button to top "horn."

Balance problem solved.

Tried that yesterday, didn't really help. It doesn't flop forward as much though.

Quote from: RacerX on June 09, 2014, 11:03:32 PM
(http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv55/paruwi6172/spamCrazy/episgstrapbuttons.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 10, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
Got stoned and disassembled and detailed my new/old Supraphonic yesterday.  Man that thing is in such nice shape.  The chrome is just perfect except where etched with the church's info  :D.  The date code was partially obscured with one of the inside lug fasteners so when I pulled it apart the date stamps say Dec. 13 1971.  I was just a wee bugger.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 13, 2014, 06:46:20 PM
I have to admit, I have learned an incredible amount of stuff from the people in here compared to when I first plagued the jam room.

I should hunt down and kill every last one of you for turning me into a tone sensitive freak too. I used to be ok with SS all the way. assholes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on June 14, 2014, 11:24:27 AM
Jib, just wait till you hear this yba-1 with the 6550s in 'er.    :o :o :o ;D 

I finally started working as my job got delayed due to shite weather all winter and spring. And, I picked up a 2nd evening job for shits and giggles 4 nights a week.  I'm fixin' to be a busy little boy (who can afford to repair all of my gear).  For 4 weeks I was sitting at the house stewing and fretting waiting for the green light on my project as there was no cash American being delivered to my checking account AND the mortgage payment wasn't about to stop!  Never did I once think about liquidating my gear.  Dogfood don't roll that way!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on June 14, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
We were asked by the booking agent for a new nicer club in town (the Mothlight) to open a show for Black Pussy and Mothership. Apparently we were recommended by another booking dude who has gotten us our few shows in town. But then Mothlight booking agent actually listened to our bandcamp page and decided we were too heavy. The word "scary" might have been used. So we were disinvited.

Then a few days ago, a friend texted us saying that someone from the Mothlight was "desperately" trying to get ahold of us so we made the connect. Found out it was the owner. He apologized for what happened. Said the bands wanted their own local opener but that band suddenly dropped the show. Asked us to play. We said yes. So our mission is to go on first and fucking destroy the other two bands sonically and technically.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 14, 2014, 02:42:44 PM
^yeah, drop thee bunker buster all up in there. 

dogfood, I look forward to it.  Hey, are you ok now?
i'm kind of bummed that you were idling. I could have shown you some stuff around town.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 14, 2014, 03:13:22 PM
This mornings jam set up before work.  Super cool combo of things. And a pic of my tootsies too :P

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21271_zpse48f73fa.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21271_zpse48f73fa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 16, 2014, 11:30:15 AM
Jibberish, you will never find us.

You will encounter many a diabolical booby trap tracking us down. Like leaving a trail of NOS tubes leading to a cliff, and you will continue to walk into empty space collecting them, and the fall Wile E. Coyote style when you finally look down.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 16, 2014, 11:33:54 AM
That, and tracking/mixing for the Ocean of Stars demo EP is complete.

Sax player came by and touched up a few things, and I managed to successfully mix the remaining two songs. No easy feat w/o automation.

Having it mastered by Cris Burns on Tuesday, he did both Mother Truckers albums I was on, and has won a Grammy.

Cannot wait to hear finished product. And looking forward to finally pushing forward with booking and label-seeking etc


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 16, 2014, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: Danny G on June 16, 2014, 11:30:15 AM
Jibberish, you will never find us.

You will encounter many a diabolical booby trap tracking us down. Like leaving a trail of NOS tubes leading to a cliff, and you will continue to walk into empty space collecting them, and the fall Wile E. Coyote style when you finally look down.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk

and a Chihuahua with a big hat and a stimpy accent sticks his tongue out just to add insult to impending injury.
and dammit, if I didn't pass the fucking rock up on the way down. how does this happen?

gz on your OoS album progress btw.

oh yeah, my blog part of this post.   I have to go and get my music gear that my son was using, plus he only took his acoustic and his greta baby amp, so I will have to organize all the crap he left and I probably will actually grab the memory lane delay since he wont be using it for a good while.

he and his longtime collaborator guitar playing pal recorded some cool instrumental prog metal sort of tracks before he booked town. I really feel bad for his pal losing his drummer.  both them thar boys are getting good. I need to get the links to those songs. a couple are really complex and I would like to listen to them more, maybe even link one here w/e
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 17, 2014, 02:38:47 AM
bloggity bloggity.

I stumbled upon some videos during one of my semi-random youtube forays called flash mobs.  the colonel bogey march one and bethoven's 5th in the Spanish town square ruled, but people bust these things in malls, train stations and dance or pull a symphony performance.

I want to do this. somehow. 

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Post by: liquidsmoke on June 17, 2014, 05:57:29 AM
If I get another random 4x10 bass cab what are the chances that there will be phasing issues? If I find one cheap it's happening, just wondering what my odds might be.

this is for bass guitar
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Post by: jibberish on June 17, 2014, 08:31:48 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 17, 2014, 05:57:29 AM
If I get another random 4x10 bass cab what are the chances that there will be phasing issues? If I find one cheap it's happening, just wondering what my odds might be.

this is for bass guitar

9v battery test. make a little rig with a 9v and 2 alligator clips. get so you can see the speaker clearly and touch the battery across the terminals. the 1-shot dc rise will move the cone in one direction. so you can see if some random wire job moves forward when + goes to +.  this was great for car stereo wiring when things can get confusing. good feeling when you see all your speakers move the same direction. then I have the next multi-amp phasing check to make sure nothing is wired backwards from the amps either.
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Post by: RAGER on June 17, 2014, 10:59:07 AM
Went and looked at a Prophet 600 yesterday.  All original and in perfect shape.  No cracks in the membrane.  It's got some bugs though for sure.  If I get it, it will have to be gone through and I will do the Teensy/Gligli treatment to it to make it super duper badass.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on June 18, 2014, 01:48:53 AM
Quote from: jibberish on June 17, 2014, 08:31:48 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on June 17, 2014, 05:57:29 AM
If I get another random 4x10 bass cab what are the chances that there will be phasing issues? If I find one cheap it's happening, just wondering what my odds might be.

this is for bass guitar

9v battery test. make a little rig with a 9v and 2 alligator clips. get so you can see the speaker clearly and touch the battery across the terminals. the 1-shot dc rise will move the cone in one direction. so you can see if some random wire job moves forward when + goes to +.  this was great for car stereo wiring when things can get confusing. good feeling when you see all your speakers move the same direction. then I have the next multi-amp phasing check to make sure nothing is wired backwards from the amps either.

Interesting. I meant the two cabs being out of phase with one another.

Going to check out a Randall 'R215S' 2x15 Thursday. Guy only wants $200 for it and I've read they have Eminence speakers in them. Grey carpet. I'll try to talk him down if it works and is loud.
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Post by: jibberish on June 18, 2014, 09:00:02 AM
the battery test can show you that too.  you just want everything attached to the same terminal of your amp to all move the same direction. and you can use any convention, just as long as every last speaker in every last cabinet moves the same direction when hit with the same polarity of voltage.

car stereo="many cabs" if you will.  then with the hidden wiring, things get confusing, even getting the right speaker(s) to the right amp channel.
at least you have it all out in front of you.

I have a thing about establishing conventions for myself so I don't have to think about it. for example, red is right like with color coded stereo cables, or white is right if that color is in there. but red is righter than white if that's the 2 colors haha. any distinguishing markings on wires is the positive, like the common line on zip cord always has a pattern or ridge(this would be the white 110vac wire in power cords for all you wannabe electricians). I use that as positive for like speakers, or if there is gold and silver conductors, the gold is +  etc etc etc haha

but it is a no brainer now. I assume positive to be the speaker moving out of the cabinet. this shit is all arbitrary, just as long as I stick with the convention

edit: hey, you could use your 12v pedal power supply too or 2 series 9 volts if the single 9 cant move all the speakers in a cab enough to see. be warned that 8 ohms will pull 1.5 amps(4 ohm pulls 3 amps which is a lot for a wall wart thing) if you leave it on a long time. you onl;y need to touch it to move the cone. inductance cannot permit instantaneous current flow, so you wont blow anything up in that fraction of a second. the cone motion is where that energy is going.
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Post by: jibberish on June 18, 2014, 09:28:43 AM
inductors are like a string of railroad cars hooked up to a loco ready to leave the yard. the loco has to creep forward initially to tighten the slack in all the couplers of all the cars. if he took off hard, by the time the slack was tightening toward the end of a half mile string, the front could be going several mph and this would damage the end cars when they got whip snapped.

SO, in the world of hooke's law(2nd order differential equation) which explains both electrical and physical momentum/energy, the inductance term is defined by
dI/dT.  "d" means "the change in", so the change in current divided by the change in time is the inductance term. you cannot divide by zero. current cannot immediately flow through a coil, just like that train doesn't come all slack tightened when it starts. this time delay is like the slack period where it is getting to the state of solid train. the electrons are the cars, the battery/amp is the loco. it too has to tighten the slack before the solid string comes out the other end.

some stereo speakers have the mids and highs physically set back to try and delay their output to match the woofer's bigger inductance time delay. those twicky engineews.
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Post by: RAGER on June 18, 2014, 03:54:57 PM
The "nth" incarnation of the synth rig.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21291_zpseaa35e78.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21291_zpseaa35e78.jpg.html)
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Post by: JemDooM on June 18, 2014, 04:19:46 PM
Quote from: RAGER on June 14, 2014, 03:13:22 PM
This mornings jam set up before work.  Super cool combo of things. And a pic of my tootsies too :P

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21271_zpse48f73fa.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21271_zpse48f73fa.jpg.html)

It's getting out of control rager! I can see your live show in like 5 years, dozens of synths and pedal boards taking over the stage, is there such thing as synthcore?
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Post by: JemDooM on June 18, 2014, 04:23:13 PM
Yes there is....so this is how my night ends, gonna get some ice cream before I start this...
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Post by: Pissy on June 18, 2014, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: RAGER on June 18, 2014, 03:54:57 PM
The "nth" incarnation of the synth rig.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_21291_zpseaa35e78.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_21291_zpseaa35e78.jpg.html)

Wow dude.  Not fucking around I see.
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Post by: RAGER on June 18, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
 ;D  I actually think that's all I'm doing is fucking around but it helps putting things in different combinations to see what works and sounds good together.  I'm having a lot of fun though.
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Post by: mortlock on June 18, 2014, 10:28:38 PM
hey rager, do you ever get into echoes, the syndicated radio show.?? I don't know if you get it where you are. if you do, I think you might dig it. I listen in every chance I get..
http://echoes.org/ (http://echoes.org/)
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Post by: RAGER on June 18, 2014, 11:02:33 PM
Sounds familiar but not something fully remember. I'll have to check it out.
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Post by: agent of change on June 19, 2014, 09:29:25 AM
Had my first taste of embarrassment, being (re)asked last minute to open for two touring bands. First feeling of being 41 and just starting a new project last year, from the bottom up, simple CDR demo and no merch. The touring bands just got back from Europe, had a huge backline, all 70s vintage clothes, tons of well-designed merch, etc etc. We had like 7 people there and went on at 9:15. The drummer from the headlining band was really sweet and stood up front (alone) for our set. But overall it was humbling to be scrapping it out in a small mountain town while other bands take some simple 70s riffs and turn it into glamour and money. All I could do to salve my wounded ego was be honest and friendly - we got asked last minute and have played 3 shows in the last week and a half. And our set was tight and mean. The bands were pretty cool to us (besides getting high downstairs while we played), and the club owner thanked us for playing last minute and said they would like to have us back for a properly promoted show.

Funny how playing dive bars amongst our people I feel righteous, but in a higher end club opening for bigger bands I felt like a washed up geezer.

/truejamroomblog
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Post by: RAGER on June 19, 2014, 10:29:05 AM
Been there. You go on and there's like 50 people in this cavernous club and magically by the time the headliner goes on there's 400 people stuffed in there.  ;D
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Post by: Pissy on June 19, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: RAGER on June 19, 2014, 10:29:05 AM
Been there. You go on and there's like 50 people in this cavernous club and magically by the time the headliner goes on there's 400 people stuffed in there.  ;D

In my experience, playing to 50 people is a great success.

I actually tend to judge how well we're perceived as a function of if the crowd grew or shrank, and how well the people that are there are into what we're doing. Last show we played, we went on at last call. Not ideal. But we kept the few that were willing to stick around, and gave them a good set. I felt like we did well for the circumstance. Last band on a 5 band bill that started at 10:00.
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Post by: Danny G on June 19, 2014, 12:01:39 PM
20 people going apeshit > 200 people staring blankly or looking at their phones.
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Post by: RAGER on June 19, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Danny G on June 19, 2014, 12:01:39 PM
200 people staring blankly or looking at their phones.

Oh you've been to some shows in Portland.
Quote from: Pissy on June 19, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: RAGER on June 19, 2014, 10:29:05 AM
Been there. You go on and there's like 50 people in this cavernous club and magically by the time the headliner goes on there's 400 people stuffed in there.  ;D

In my experience, playing to 50 people is a great success.


A success to me also but I'd rather it be in a basement or small club rather than a hall.
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Post by: agent of change on June 19, 2014, 12:29:49 PM
That room sure was big and empty. Even the folks at the bar were paying attention though. I try to sing/scream at people and get as much eye contact in as they can handle. We got a few compliments after from folks we didn't know. Thanks for the commiseration dudes.
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Post by: RacerX on June 19, 2014, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Danny G on June 19, 2014, 12:01:39 PM
20 people going apeshit > 200 people staring blankly or looking at their phones.

Yeah, but where do you find that these days? Not in the clubs, for the most part.
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Post by: agent of change on June 19, 2014, 01:43:03 PM
The 20 people going apeshit or the 200 people? I haven't seen 200 people around here probably since High on Fire played the Orange Peel. As far as people going apeshit, we're starting to figure out how to hook people here. It's a funny dialogue, playing your music, but tweaking it so that people want to go apeshit.
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Post by: RacerX on June 19, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
Quote from: agent of change on June 19, 2014, 01:43:03 PM
The 20 people going apeshit or the 200 people? I haven't seen 200 people around here probably since High on Fire played the Orange Peel. As far as people going apeshit, we're starting to figure out how to hook people here. It's a funny dialogue, playing your music, but tweaking it so that people want to go apeshit.

Sorry for the fuzziness— I meant the 20 people going apeshit.

I think the answer these days is most often found at "alternative venues."
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Post by: khoomeizhi on June 19, 2014, 04:53:52 PM
^ true dat. 'cause people are excited already, just because something different is happening.

edit: meant to ask, agent, how'd the record store show go?
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Post by: Mr. Foxen on June 19, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
What does going apeshit to drone look like? We got a "YAY!" once.
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Post by: RacerX on June 19, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on June 19, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
What does going apeshit to drone look like? We got a "YAY!" once.

If the audience are all lying on the floor, soaking up the vibes, count them as "going apeshit" to Drone.
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Post by: dogfood on June 19, 2014, 06:40:44 PM
Jib, Rib Burn Off Saturday, let's meet.  What time?
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Post by: Mr. Foxen on June 19, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: RacerX on June 19, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on June 19, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
What does going apeshit to drone look like? We got a "YAY!" once.

If the audience are all lying on the floor, soaking up the vibes, count them as "going apeshit" to Drone.

Had small kids rolling on the floor holding their ears once, didn't necessarily take as a good sign.
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Post by: RacerX on June 19, 2014, 08:33:56 PM
heh. Probably not.
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Post by: agent of change on June 19, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: khoomeizhi on June 19, 2014, 04:53:52 PM
^ true dat. 'cause people are excited already, just because something different is happening.

edit: meant to ask, agent, how'd the record store show go?

Pretty good. Sounds really good in there, and it was reasonably well-attended. Scored some new fans and sold a few cds. Made connections with the touring band. Didn't get paid though; it all went to the touring band. I'm starting to wonder about a cost/benefit analysis of playing shows that don't pay anything.
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Post by: mortlock on June 19, 2014, 11:12:58 PM
the cost is it costs you money to play. gas, equipment maintenance, etc.. the benefit is that you actually get to play. you cant really ask for money if you don't bring people in with your band. I love places that give the bands the door. its a true measure of what you deserve..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 19, 2014, 11:17:38 PM
Quote from: agent of change on June 19, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: khoomeizhi on June 19, 2014, 04:53:52 PM
^ true dat. 'cause people are excited already, just because something different is happening.

edit: meant to ask, agent, how'd the record store show go?

I'm starting to wonder about a cost/benefit analysis of playing shows that don't pay anything.

There are lots of opinions on this whole thing.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on June 20, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
http://madison.craigslist.org/msg/4492321186.html

Checked out this cab today(for bass, not guitar, relax guys). It farts(or something) bad on low notes, not sure if the speakers are blown or they were slamming against the nailed on replacement wooden grill. The guy is going to call me if he can figure out and fix the problem.
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Post by: AgentofOblivion on June 20, 2014, 09:46:16 AM
Last night my suspicions were confirmed:  I've been a dope most of my life.  Let me expand on this.  Long story short, I have an amazing Eventide Space pedal that sounds orgasmic on clean stuff but due to the design of the amp I'm using (relies on power amp distortion), it sounds like utter horse shit with even vary modest gain despite being in the FX loop.  I never liked it as much as my JCM 800, which was mainly pre-amp distortion. 

My suspicion became, "If all I really want is pre-amp distortion, why am I lugging around a big, expensive, fragile tube amp instead of having a tube front end feed a solid state power amp?"  Well, last night we had a band practice whose goal was only to dial in tones for the upcoming show.  After a fruitless hour of trying to get the amp not shit on the ambiance of the Eventide we decided to hook up this little pedal tube pre-amp my buddy has and go into his solid state PA power amp.  This little pedal of his is like $300, has a clean, overdrive, and heavy overdrive channels along with an FX loop.  I plugged that Eventide into the FX loop of that guy and holy shit! 

Even without the Eventide on, this little pedal pre-amp into a SS poweramp sounded fucking amazing.  It was incredibly responsive to touch and really let the sound of the guitar dominate.  I hate amps that sound about the same whether you're using a Les Paul or Strat.  I was getting huge tonal variation with pickup selection, all of which were musical, and it seemed somehow more pure and transparent--perhaps it's the better bass response of the clean headroom that the power section had.  The other great thing is it sounded just as wonder at bedroom levels as it does at band level, not to mention it's less shit to carry around.  And I could buy that whole rig for about $500. 

So me with my expensive guitars and amps that Eddie Van Halen used or what the fuck ever am a big dope that bought into the hype from marketing.  It only took me 19 years of playing guitar to figure it out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 20, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
Best way to get those 20 people to go apeshit is to ROCK YOUR ASS OFF.

If the band onstage is having more fun than the crowd, it makes the crowd want to get in on the fun \m/,


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Post by: agent of change on June 20, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
We've found that set list order can make a difference too. Are people ready and eager to have their faces ripped off by our blistering 5/4 metal opus? Or do they need to be softly massaged closer with our slow pulsing doom wall?

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Post by: JemDooM on June 20, 2014, 01:11:20 PM
I'm curious to know who those bands were agent ;) that's bad gig etiquette to sit downstairs getting high while the support band is on, or while any other band is on, I cant stand that, if you want support from the scene you gotta give some...

I used to feel embarrassed playing shows where the other bands have a ton of nice amps and cabs and I show up with my one solid state head and single cab, with my guitar in a soft case with massive holes in it, (and leads in a plastic shopping bag haha), but over the last year iv had so many experiences that told me it really doesn't matter!

This is for rager and mort tho its pretty damn awesome so check it out! Old band from Liverpool, its got some nice synth action..

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 20, 2014, 02:11:19 PM
If a band is on tour, they can do whatever the hell they want during my set. I don't know what kind of day/week/run they've been having. Unless they are dicks and just don't care, heh

Being visible and checking out a few songs of the support bands is def good etiquette tho


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Post by: mortlock on June 20, 2014, 02:30:48 PM
damn jem, that was pretty freakin awesome. not sure how I over looked these guys..
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Post by: agent of change on June 20, 2014, 09:39:05 PM


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Post by: the diddler on June 21, 2014, 07:53:32 AM
Ugh
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Post by: mortlock on June 21, 2014, 02:37:42 PM
hah..avoided possible death and certain equipment destruction at a gig last night. HMco played the lair, a basement/house venue in buffalo ny, right after our set, just after we moved our gear and just before the next band started to set up the plumbing let loose overhead and flooded out right where the bands play. 10 mins earlier and we would have been just finishing our set..and would have been rained on. I don't know if I avoided possible electrocution but..satan was looking out for us. we literally brought the house down.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10487279_823276147684951_2918824189006524385_n.jpg)   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on June 21, 2014, 04:46:40 PM
Now that's fucking rock and roll dude.
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Post by: JemDooM on June 22, 2014, 04:51:25 AM
Woah!!  :-X
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Post by: RacerX on June 22, 2014, 08:40:57 AM
Quote from: agent of change on June 21, 2014, 04:46:40 PM
Now that's fucking rock and roll dude.

Quoted for troof!
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Post by: AgentofOblivion on June 22, 2014, 09:26:32 AM
That looks like the shittiest shit hole in the world.  Where you find murders and homeless people.  Is that what basement shows are like?
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Post by: everdrone on June 22, 2014, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: mortlock on June 21, 2014, 02:37:42 PMwe literally brought the house down.
   

I am not suprised, an old house would shake a lot with the FULL STACKS and stuff yall prolly played through ;)
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Post by: Danny G on June 23, 2014, 12:06:59 PM
Hope the audience flooded y'all with compliments and was gushing about your band and music.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 24, 2014, 01:02:10 PM
Most of the bass players at Days of the Doom were using rack Ampegs and they sounded really good. Just saying.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 24, 2014, 02:01:10 PM
Were they mic'd up or line in or both?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 24, 2014, 02:55:22 PM
I think they were all line in to the PA. I like the Ampeg sound a lot, even SS/hybrid and think it's great for metal and heavy rock of various sorts.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on June 24, 2014, 03:01:41 PM
Responded too late for a good price on a Craigslist Avatar 4x10 bass cab. Hopefully the other dude will flake and I can snag it. 1,400 watts RMS.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 24, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
I've never personally been pleased with SS Ampeg rack mounts when I've used them, but I've heard others use them and sound great. Must be a flaw in my technique hahaha


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Post by: liquidsmoke on June 25, 2014, 03:52:04 AM
These rule- http://www.allparts.com/AP-0684-010-Oversized-Chrome-Buttons_p_440.html
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Post by: jibberish on June 25, 2014, 05:33:36 AM
giant thread pitch lag screws and BAW's anymore here. anyone want a set of shallers?  gold ones. 

mortay, that soggy venue was rock n roll

HOWEVER

HAD y'all been playing when the shit went down, that would have been totally metal

we could call you the anti-whitesnake venom band
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Post by: RAGER on June 25, 2014, 08:13:32 PM
I've got to exercise the 100 watters this weekend.  Hopefully I still know how to play guitar.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on June 26, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
I exercised that Blue last night.


Mega meh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 27, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
Returned that G400 and looked at a brand new black Special they had. Cheap guitar but they look sexy and because the neck is set farther into the body and thinner they aren't neck heavy. If Craigs has one for sale cheap I might pick it up for a standard E axe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on June 27, 2014, 12:25:02 AM
Grolsch pop top gasket on the strap button after your strap = done. Plus beers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 02, 2014, 01:28:49 AM
Anyone else sometimes spend hours writing a lead on guitar? I plan them out and then play them exactly the same every time in my current band.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on July 02, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
I bullshit them on recordings, and on stage.

Maybe similar phrasing?
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Post by: mutantcolors on July 02, 2014, 10:23:12 AM
I actually like doing it that way, it's fun to tweedle over your own song til you hit some magic.
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Post by: RAGER on July 02, 2014, 10:37:37 AM
Play the same thing twice?  Shit, I never play the same thing once.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on July 02, 2014, 10:40:34 AM
The only time I write shit out for real is if there are harmonized guitars. I typically don't even play riffs the same, sometimes Ill play triplets, or drop out notes for some feedback pauses.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 02, 2014, 11:56:12 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 02, 2014, 10:40:34 AM
The only time I write shit out for real is if there are harmonized guitars. I typically don't even play riffs the same, sometimes Ill play triplets, or drop out notes for some feedback pauses.

That's pretty wild. I generally attempt to be a Nazi when playing although I have an easier version of one lead for when I'm not in a confident mood.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on July 03, 2014, 09:53:25 AM
I just like to keep it interesting. I've got a bag of tricks, bends and trills, sweeps, whatever that I know work properly in all the songs.
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Post by: RacerX on July 03, 2014, 10:42:31 AM
Depends. If it's a "guitar solo," I usually improvise within roughly-drawn parameters.

There are plenty of other melodic bits that I strive to play the same every time because they are part of the song itself.
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Post by: Danny G on July 03, 2014, 10:59:48 AM
I'm about 60/40 for improv/written out

Some things I purposely keep loose. Others I have a framework at least but leave room for spontaneity.

There are a few solos where I try to play the same thing, as there is a specific musical statement I'm trying to convey


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Post by: Instant Dan on July 05, 2014, 12:56:48 PM
I think I am just going to save up more money to get that LP standard in a plain top finish I have always wanted. I like the MiJ LP's but I have yet to really find one that does not lean towards a slim-taper neck.
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Post by: jibberish on July 06, 2014, 08:08:26 AM
^everything else is a waste of $ if it will keep niggling at you that it isn't where you want to be.


solos: I don't have my shit together enough to wing it and just stick with the phrasing.
I write/work my solos out note for note and TRY to play it the same way every time.
so a song is a complete repeatable construction.  intros/outros and bridges are the real devil, not solos, as solos are generally variations on the theme holding the verse/chorus/bridge/etc, phrasing that you already have figured out.


...so many toys, so little play time
..so many more toys out there, so little spare play money for them.
ok, so nevermind for right now.
glad I had that little talk with myself.  i'm in carworld now. when it rains it pours. I now have 3 cars to juggle, one of which is 45miles away and has a mean fuel leak(=royal "dontwanner" = royal good price = royal good profit when I flip it up here. you get the idea. my pal taught me the trick: look for a good runner that looks like shit or has some really inconvenient but trivial stuff wrong with it = gold.  check engine light is one of the best bargaining chips and a fucking chimp can get codes out of a car with a piece of wire heh = mo money)

edit: oh ya, nice score on that mixer rager. that's the right price for that.  must be intricate sounding when you have that thing filled up with a bunch of module outputs all at once.   hey, magic shrooms grow around by you.....hahaha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on July 06, 2014, 10:14:22 AM
All my solos come out naturally in the first take, most of the time I hear them in the music before I put them down, then I learn them and play the same every time live!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 08, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
not sure where to put this.
I stumbled across this while checking out synth demos.

the thing I thought was neat was that it was like a long distance collaboration( same studio but done in chunks and layered together so it could have been long distance)
the vintage gear shown is out of this world for the synth geeks, but this collaboration is what I really like
also, I have the original tubular bells album so this song is familiar.



I wish we could get something like this together with some video wiz as the final producer and everyone else just make sure they are in tune heh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 12, 2014, 01:03:56 PM
I am recording songs/clips every week from now on :)  just recorded some this week.  I sporadically jam with folks as well, but am looking to commit to a cover band or heavy rock/metal band in North Austin Texas, so today I posted my ads on craigslist,...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 12, 2014, 02:23:03 PM
just got a response and said "yes":

Hey there, just saw your ad, and looked very similar to what we needed, check us out and let me know if you wanna try something out.

http://austin.craigslist.org/muc/4559431994.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 14, 2014, 06:48:42 PM
http://www.badmuckingfastard.com/sound/slipperman.html#contents

holy crap
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on July 14, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
have been building some pedals lately. just clones of existing pedals, but it's going well, so I tried a more complex circuit, a mutron phaser 2. I took some time to make this one look pretty inside. It looks like it works right now, but something is not kicking in. Just a clean signal passing through, and a cool little pink led flashing in accordance with the rate knob. I'm still troubleshooting.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10552541_10203076634609429_8076688946785287438_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10557402_10203076636009464_1554328722323982894_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 14, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
When this happens to me I re check everything and re flow suspicious stuff.  I know you already know this/ ;D sorry
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on July 14, 2014, 11:09:55 PM
*Pssst* Cut the blue wire! :-X
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 15, 2014, 02:54:19 AM
Show photographers must die. I was at a show and one of the photographers was right up next to the band, taking crazy low angle shots and stuff. But other people were shooting videos, and now this fucking dillrod will show up in everybody's video. And he doesn't work for a magazine, or a website or a blog. He's just taking snaps of his buddy's band. If you're a real photographer you're not taking pics with your iPhone (I am guilty of that, but I try to avoid ruining the show for other people). Pro photographers in small clubs are equally as bad, hogging the front of the stage, blinding everybody with 'bounced' flash, etc. At big shows, photographers are limited to shooting the first 3 songs for a reason... it's well established that they are fucking annoying. But at a small show, there is nobody there to enforce any rules, and photographers will shoot the entire set, and it's like the people who paid to watch the show don't even matter, the photographer thinks that his photos are more important than the actual event.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 15, 2014, 01:11:52 PM
If more photographers got used to using the ambient light the show experience and the photos would both be much improved.

And camera flashes are kind of a double-edged sword for those onstage.  They can be distracting as hell, but can also be an affirmation that the band is at least doing something right so people are taking pics.

But obnoxious photographers can be really annoying.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 15, 2014, 01:31:40 PM
even videographers bug me cause they are sticking their phones right in my line of view!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on July 15, 2014, 09:19:02 PM
Finally got recording date booked, now need to sort a decent sounding drum kit and cymbals for drummer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on July 15, 2014, 09:44:30 PM
There is a guy in our town who comes to tons of shows, pays, takes pictures, and posts them on his Facebook site. He even bought our cd at our release party. Nice fella and he tends to hug one end or the other of the stage, or hang back in the crowd when he takes his pictures. I've honestly not noticed him taking pictures of us while we play.

https://www.facebook.com/thrashe.ville.7 (https://www.facebook.com/thrashe.ville.7)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 16, 2014, 03:48:52 AM
Not every photographer is annoying, it's more common to see amateurs doing annoying stuff (one pro guy with Brooklyn Vegan is especially bad, but I guess he's making money so maybe that's why he's kind of a ruthless dick about getting his shots. Have not been to any of 'his' shows lately though). I realize I am probably that annoying dick with the iPhone camera, to some people :(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 16, 2014, 09:14:04 AM
Played last night with Royal Blood, a bass and drums duo out of Brighton UK.  Dude splits his bass signal to an octave higher on one side, and normal on the other. Then goes to an array of guitar amps with the higher note signal.

We were 3 weeks cold and nailed it. In contrast, recent shows we've prepared for heavily, haven't gone nearly as well. Strange.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 16, 2014, 11:46:46 AM
Interesting story about a fan who was watching Youtube and discovered the likely origin of Cobain's Fender Jaguar...

http://www.nme.com/news/nirvana/78528
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 16, 2014, 12:01:40 PM
Quote from: Pissy on July 16, 2014, 09:14:04 AM
Played last night with Royal Blood, a bass and drums duo out of Brighton UK.  Dude splits his bass signal to an octave higher on one side, and normal on the other. Then goes to an array of guitar amps with the higher note signal.

We were 3 weeks cold and nailed it. In contrast, recent shows we've prepared for heavily, haven't gone nearly as well. Strange.

Whole different energy.  Love that shit. Nice work.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on July 16, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
I wish people cared enough about our band to want to take pictures.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 16, 2014, 12:57:41 PM
Finally have my own website:

http://dannygrocks.com


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on July 16, 2014, 02:13:20 PM
I grock Danny???  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 16, 2014, 07:04:06 PM
I got some guitars back from Jake & have been playing the shit out of them, but it turns out that the Ampeg AMG100 I got in a trade from taylo)))r is still my favorite. Just an all out rock machine with the best neck ever.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on July 16, 2014, 07:18:05 PM
Figured so.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 16, 2014, 07:33:08 PM
Makes my choices easier.


Still have high hopes for the Jag...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 16, 2014, 09:35:52 PM
That was my black Ampeg fiddle for many years. I can confirm it's bona fide rock machine status.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 16, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
Damn, not sure if I knew that. It's had much Bandit/Hooper love then.


I am the difficult brown.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 16, 2014, 09:55:20 PM
And one of the best parts is/was the big ass Mr. Zog's Sex Wax sticker on the case. Always made me think of the masterpiece, Point Break.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 16, 2014, 10:35:32 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/17/6yzudezy.jpg)


I am the difficult brown.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 17, 2014, 12:42:57 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on July 16, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
I wish people cared enough about our band to want to take pictures.

You have to ask someone to use your camera. You could take the photos yourself, but you're busy. Ask a friend or girlfriend, then take the pics into Photoshop and fix them.

Shocker you have a Jaguar? I am trying to unload my three less-than-$100 clunkers and maybe parlay my stash into a Squier Jaguar or Jazzmaster.

What's the differences between a Jaguar and Jazzmaster?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 17, 2014, 10:18:50 AM
Biggest differences would be the pickups and the scale length, for sure.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 17, 2014, 10:26:31 AM
Yeah, i have a Squier Jag. Currently at Jake's for setup and mods. Maybe he'll chime in on quality.

I had a Jazzmaster, but I have smallish hands. Much prefer shorter scale guitars.


I am the difficult brown.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 17, 2014, 10:29:29 AM
Squier is meh. Needed fret dressing, a little neck work...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 17, 2014, 10:31:40 AM
You liked the Jazz. Quality on Squiers is good for the money, but variable.


I am the difficult brown.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 17, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 17, 2014, 10:29:29 AM
Squier is meh. Needed fret dressing, a little neck work...

Any guitar might need that though.

Jaguars are punchy and "tin machines" (trebly, metallic) my friend said (correct ?) Jazzmasters are chimey and sweeter?

Shocker, don't you have the Squier J.Mascis Jazzmaster too?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on July 17, 2014, 05:10:23 PM
I had some cool Mr zogs shirts back in the day. Great marketing strategy by those guys. As a kid it was always intriguing
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: the diddler on July 17, 2014, 06:09:11 PM
safe bet t-shirts and stickers made them 10X the $$$ their actual product did
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 17, 2014, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on July 17, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 17, 2014, 10:29:29 AM
Squier is meh. Needed fret dressing, a little neck work...

Any guitar might need that though.

Jaguars are punchy and "tin machines" (trebly, metallic) my friend said (correct ?) Jazzmasters are chimey and sweeter?

Shocker, don't you have the Squier J.Mascis Jazzmaster too?

Sold it to Xayk.  That was back during my gear mania period.  It was a nice guitar.  Jake made a youtube video of it.  It needed fret dressing too if my memory is correct.  I will say that the Squier single coils are pretty noise free.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 17, 2014, 09:24:08 PM
That was a wicked nice guitar. Also, that tuning is the proper way to swing some pussy if you have an acoustic and no dignity.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: themusketking on July 17, 2014, 09:46:42 PM
I bought the Squier VI a few weeks ago. I'm in love with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 17, 2014, 09:47:51 PM
Quote from: themusketking on July 17, 2014, 09:46:42 PM
I bought the Squier VI a few weeks ago. I'm in love with it.

Sweet!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 17, 2014, 10:16:14 PM
This thread is starting to really feed my need to build my next guitar. A hybrid Jazzmaster/Jaguar with a 25.5" scale, WRHB pups, and a Tele pup between the bridge and the fixed trem plate.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/JH-JM_zpsa817de03.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on July 17, 2014, 10:20:07 PM
Looks badass.  Like the pickup behind the bridge.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 17, 2014, 10:23:26 PM
Sweet!

That's a pretty twisted idea—Kim Thayil will probably be drooling, as well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 17, 2014, 10:39:42 PM
That guitar idea is hottt, and is relevant to my interests.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on July 18, 2014, 12:03:30 AM
JEZUZ CRIIST ON CRUTCHES! Have I been the "Working Man".  I planned my move like a corporate assassin (my spirt guide was MJS), then the weather was so shitty in Cleveland that my planned job was delay for 4 weeks (hello bills), so I shat resumes like something that shits a shit ton of resumes online, then I got a teaching job teaching being an electrician at the very same time my original job (being an electrician) went go stylee, and now I have two, count them stoner, two jobs.  I will pay off bills and other responsible adult crap then buy a bass for my GF's daughter.  She played flute in school, yeah I know, and has the itch.  I can't help it, I want to get her "hooked".  Sue me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on July 18, 2014, 12:53:56 AM
Speaking of guitars with pickups behind the bridge this evil genius has been building a guitar with tuned strings past the bridge:

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 18, 2014, 08:42:55 AM
Good God, that's incredible!


I want one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on July 18, 2014, 10:46:38 AM
Never even heard of this.  I NEED IT!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 18, 2014, 11:40:39 AM
Y'know, I wonder whether an acoustic with extra-burly bracing & neck could be built in that manner—for my uses, that would be even better!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on July 18, 2014, 06:43:33 PM
Ho Lee Shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 18, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
I wish he had a big fro and some funky beatles type outfit for that demo

(http://www.hellocosplay.com/images/costumes/john-winston-lennon-costume-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 18, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/19/ryranuny.jpg)

Why the fuck do you people use svts and 810s?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 18, 2014, 07:58:07 PM
I just bought a rack effects unit that is sooo bad ass.  Can't wait till it gets here.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 18, 2014, 08:17:32 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 18, 2014, 07:47:40 PM

Why the fuck do you people use svts and 810s?

Because they sound like The Voice of God
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 18, 2014, 08:18:28 PM
Might as well rename them "full volvo"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 18, 2014, 08:19:20 PM
Worth it though, right?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 18, 2014, 08:20:59 PM
I dunno, this is my first night with it. We'll find out in half an hour.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 18, 2014, 09:31:02 PM
what r u driving?  a volvo suv?
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 19, 2014, 12:52:13 AM
V70 wagon.

Unimpressed by the 810 and the SVT-CL.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 19, 2014, 01:12:13 AM
wow, thats like industry standard

after ability to cart around huge cabs, glad you are all about safety first with that volvo :)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 19, 2014, 01:14:49 AM
Nothing safe about how i drive it... It's fast as hell for no damn good reason.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on July 19, 2014, 02:46:27 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 18, 2014, 08:18:28 PM
Might as well rename them "full volvo"

You can fit an arcade game into a 245. Just saying.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 19, 2014, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 18, 2014, 07:47:40 PMWhy the fuck do you people use svts and 810s?

Because hearing it with your ears isn't the same as feeling it in your bones.

That, and I've never gotten a likeable sound using an SVT-CL tho they sound great when others use them. Weird.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on July 20, 2014, 01:22:31 AM
Saw Sea of Bones tonite, they absolutely crushed.  Talked a wee bit with Tom about his guitar tone and his own Mammoth cabs. He was heavy (and rill, rill loud) without sounding muddy at all, running an Egnator head and an Orange (Thunderverb?) each into a 4x12 + 2x15, I think. He said he's using Electro Harmonix-branded V30 clones in his 4x12's and Eminence Delta's for 2x15's.

The provided backline cabs were Dictator. When pressed he said he would've been happy to use them but was paranoid after spending so much time crafting his tone. Anyway. There's the field report.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 20, 2014, 02:02:27 AM
orange thunderverb 50 rulez!  I love mine for my brand of sludge tunage
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Andrew Blakk on July 20, 2014, 08:28:32 AM
I've always wanted an Orange amp. But I don't really like the sound though. Not bad sounding at all.

But still they just look so awesome!

I'll probably end up with one of those...

Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 20, 2014, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: Danny G on July 19, 2014, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 18, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Why the fuck do you people use svts and 810s?

Because hearing it with your ears isn't the same as feeling it in your bones.

That, and I've never gotten a likeable sound using an SVT-CL tho they sound great when others use them. Weird.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk

The CL felt very dead to me. Heavy, but not hot enough...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 20, 2014, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: Andrew Blakk on July 20, 2014, 08:28:32 AM
I've always wanted an Orange amp. But I don't really like the sound though. Not bad sounding at all.

But still they just look so awesome!

I'll probably end up with one of those...



lol no reason to get an amp that you dont like the sound of, unless it is super cheap backup

I may get a backup orange micro terror one day
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 20, 2014, 05:19:00 PM
Tracking guitars for our ep at my place. Battling static, hum, and my sloppy playing. Putting in 2-4 hours a day. Got a pretty good recorded tone after a ton of experimentation. Using 2 dynamic mics(SM57 and AKG something or other) about 10 inches from the bottom speaker in one of my cabs with a combination approach of less distortion and a little space to reduce the saturation but still get a full sound. Doing vocals and bass next.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on July 20, 2014, 07:02:01 PM
Paying bills inhibits gas  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 20, 2014, 08:18:37 PM
Boo hiss.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on July 20, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
RIGHT??!!
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 21, 2014, 06:28:10 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 20, 2014, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: Danny G on July 19, 2014, 10:43:21 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 18, 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Why the fuck do you people use svts and 810s?

Because hearing it with your ears isn't the same as feeling it in your bones.

That, and I've never gotten a likeable sound using an SVT-CL tho they sound great when others use them. Weird.


Sent from a can on some string using Tapatalk

The CL felt very dead to me. Heavy, but not hot enough...

Don't you have a JCM800?  Use that with 810 and see whats up.  You won't save any Volvo space, but it might do what your after.

Also, you might be able to trade that 810 for a 610.  I use a 610 and it can stand up in a Honda Element -- NICE!  Going rate on the 610 is the same as the 810 though, so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
I've actually got a bunch of guitar heads to use for bass, I just think the 8x10 is kind of a hyped piece of shit, for what you get out of it. I definitely feel the 6x10 would be nice. I personally dig my dual showman 2x15...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 21, 2014, 01:30:17 PM
And somehow that hype has lasted 45 years. Weird.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 21, 2014, 01:45:47 PM
I love my 810 neo stack, I think it sounds great. since it is so tall, it disperses better around the bar :) 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 21, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
If something is disappointing, it's a "piece of shit".
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2014, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: RAGER on July 21, 2014, 01:30:17 PM
And somehow that hype has lasted 45 years. Weird.

Oh shut up, you know I wouldn't say that unless I felt that it was true. It sounds like meh in a box, and weighs more than I care to move for that sound. If it truly sounded like something I enjoyed, I'd have no problem.

But... it sounds booty.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 21, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
If tone's in the fingers, you should get new fingers. 'Cause ain nuttin wrong wif no 8x10s.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2014, 06:17:23 PM
Just doesn't sound right to me.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/22/jase3yde.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on July 21, 2014, 06:21:01 PM
What are those pedals? Pharaoh, Hall of Fame, ...?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 21, 2014, 06:24:25 PM
Prolly not much sounded great on that check tile floor.



Anyways, I broke a drumstick this morning. /blog
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 21, 2014, 06:34:45 PM
its prolly tough to get tube saturation in most venues with that beast ;)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2014, 06:40:51 PM
Pitchback plus, soul preacher used as a signal booster, pharaoh, Caitlinbread SCOD for grindy metal stuff, hall of fame, unplugged sansamp.


That's a record store we practice in. Retrofit records, Tallahassee, Fl.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 21, 2014, 07:30:57 PM
Wow. It must really suck to have the rig most bass players on the planet strive to get, and ultimately be dissapointed. That's intended to be sincere.
I can't for the life of me think of a reason you wouldn't be able to get the sound you're after.  Unless you're looking for something tinny and shrill, or something along the lines of Anacrusis (killer early 90's metal band from St Louis).

I know this dissapointment a little, having tried to play a Rickenbacker. No me gusta el sound-o. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 21, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
Maybe mine sounds so good cuz it's one of the very first that were only rated at about 200 watts. So when I use a nearly 200 watt amp cranked its right at the edge.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
In all sincerity, I am jaded. Disenchanted, whatever. It doesn't sound terrible. I just don't like the response. The low end is good, so is the top, but lacks what I like, which is why I primarily use guitar amps for bass. It's too much amp, i like my stuff on the edge of destruction, and I can barely get the SVT into natural dirt territory even in huge rooms. If the cab were one of the solid ply ones instead of chipboard, I think I would mesh with it better because it would be 25lbs lighter, and possibly more resonant.

It felt lifeless, no feedback, no weird artifacts, nothing. No charm. It's an SVT.

I miss my 370.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 21, 2014, 08:48:06 PM
It's probably the shitty cabinet.

Why the fuck would you buy one of the pressboard ones? You should know better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 21, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
I have a word to describe my tone (which i really like) as it is right now. That word is chewy.

What is your word to describe the sound you're after?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 21, 2014, 08:52:39 PM
tone is in the eyes of the beholder.

cause the audience sure as heck dont care what cab and head you play bass through!  for the most part anyways for typical audiences and not a group of musicians for an audience.

also, bassist in local band LSD (lone star demons) had an SVT and he likes his orange tiny terror 1000 better cause it sounds the same at any volume and it is tube. 

the audience only notices if the musician is unhappy with his tone (or butchers his own tone)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 21, 2014, 11:04:27 PM
Quote from: Pissy on July 21, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
I have a word to describe my tone (which i really like) as it is right now. That word is chewy.

What is your word to describe the sound you're after?
clangy
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 21, 2014, 11:09:32 PM
Came with the head, RX.

In comparison to the tone I usually strive for, the SVT is "boxy."

My 370, which is the best I've ever played, is very crisp, but warm, and overdrives with harder attack.

The 800 is still my favorite bass tone. Two of those plus a decent 810 would probably do me right.

JudginG by that, you could probably discern why I don't like the SVT.


I mainly think I was just underwhelmed. I felt the same about that Electric Amp MV120 I've been sitting on. Totally underwhelmed. No magic, just a kind of okay sounding amp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on July 21, 2014, 11:37:07 PM
Honestly I'd try the Tech 21 VT Bass and DI it if you really want an SVT type tone that's pushed to exploding distortion levels.  The benefits of not having to carry all that crap, reliability, and tone consistency outweigh the fact that it's not a real SVT.  In additional when you have a fridge most venues here won't let you turn it up I have a Kustom 3x15 and was running a Sunn beta bass into it and nobody would let me turn up past 2 so I just bought a nice 1x15 to be able to run some juice into it.  That and there seems to be a group of sound men that don't bother to mic anything and just want to DI you and have that be your only tone no matter what.  But now after I bought the Leeds pedal for recording bass it sounds so good I am going to use that live when my band starts playing again.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 21, 2014, 11:50:46 PM
Quote from: giantchris on July 21, 2014, 11:37:07 PM
Honestly I'd try the Tech 21 VT Bass and DI it if you really want an SVT type tone that's pushed to exploding distortion levels.  The benefits of not having to carry all that crap, reliability, and tone consistency outweigh the fact that it's not a real SVT.  In additional when you have a fridge most venues here won't let you turn it up I have a Kustom 3x15 and was running a Sunn beta bass into it and nobody would let me turn up past 2 so I just bought a nice 1x15 to be able to run some juice into it.  That and there seems to be a group of sound men that don't bother to mic anything and just want to DI you and have that be your only tone no matter what.  But now after I bought the Leeds pedal for recording bass it sounds so good I am going to use that live when my band starts playing again.
ya I use that vt bass pedal all the time for my recordings, used it for my newest song yesterday.  its not tube but it does cut mustard :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 21, 2014, 11:54:00 PM
swampy muddy thick dirty flabby down n' dirty honk rockin bass tone is what I crave!!!!    :D :D ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 22, 2014, 03:42:10 AM
If the CL has the classic SVT toggle switches, then you have a ton of control over your EQ, especially the critical midrange, and you should be able to get what you want.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on July 22, 2014, 11:00:22 AM
http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/4511018742.html (http://denver.craigslist.org/msg/4511018742.html)

(http://images.craigslist.org/00z0z_hTjcvye2DEF_600x450.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 22, 2014, 01:18:30 PM
so much immense want....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 22, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
Why should inexperienced people use flat monitors over say a stereo they regularly listen to when mixing and mastering? You're just going to burn CDRs and test out the mix that way anyway. Monitors for pros and people that regularly mix? Makes sense.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on July 22, 2014, 03:52:17 PM
I love my Ampeg 810e cab, but owning an SVT-CL was one of the biggest gear disappointments I've had. I got mine for a good price, it was in great condition, it was loud as hell...but it just didn't wow me tonally at all. I preferred my old Traynor YBA-1 or the GK 800RB I had at the time by a mile. While I owned it I sold the GK and bought an MB800 as a backup and ended up keeping it and selling the Ampeg. It just sounded sterile to me, every solid state amp I owned had more personality, which was surprising and frustrating.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 22, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on July 22, 2014, 03:52:17 PM
I love my Ampeg 810e cab, but owning an SVT-CL was one of the biggest gear disappointments I've had. I got mine for a good price, it was in great condition, it was loud as hell...but it just didn't wow me tonally at all. I preferred my old Traynor YBA-1 or the GK 800RB I had at the time by a mile. While I owned it I sold the GK and bought an MB800 as a backup and ended up keeping it and selling the Ampeg. It just sounded sterile to me, every solid state amp I owned had more personality, which was surprising and frustrating.


See, I'm not nuts, afterall.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 22, 2014, 05:48:39 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 22, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
Why should inexperienced people use flat monitors over say a stereo they regularly listen to when mixing and mastering? You're just going to burn CDRs and test out the mix that way anyway. Monitors for pros and people that regularly mix? Makes sense.

Listen on as many different speakers as possible. Monitors are good because they're more accurate than your stereo speakers. So you'll know what you actually have in your mix, not just the frequencies that your stereo speakers emphasize.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 22, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
ya if you listen with a regular stereo equipped to sound good, it will mask the offending frequencies you are trying to mix

but mixing speaker monitors are not really that helpful if the room acoustics and room treatment are not good as I have learned since mine are bad.  so no reason to dive in deep for me!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 22, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
Your room acoustics aren't as critical if you are listening to your mixes at low levels, IMO. It matters more if you are rocking out (reflections interfere more, etc). You can mix at conversational volume level and then check your mix loud in your car, etc.

/just my stupid opinion, my room sucks too
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 23, 2014, 12:23:36 AM
I'm talking frequencies as well as speakers. Monitors make mixes sound super hi-fi too. I like to keep the going back and adjusting the mix to a minimum because say the bass is way too loud in my car using my normal EQ settings, etc.

Our ep is only going to be 3 songs.. kinda thinking about looking into lower cost pros and cheap but knowledgable amateurs to get a better sound(mixing/mastering). Anyone have any recommendations?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 23, 2014, 08:28:35 AM
you could record the tracks and then post in a thread on andy sneap forum to get people to do em for cheap or free
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 23, 2014, 10:44:01 AM
First Ocean of Stars rehearsal in about 3 months last night.

Weren't as rusty as we thought we be, but def some rust heh.

I need to practice guitar and this music in general at home way more. That, or starting writing aside shit to play hahaha


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 23, 2014, 11:12:41 AM
Are the other members like you and are are working players that have other gigs?  Cuz from my experience if I let shit go for 3 months I'd come back and everybody would be in different bands. Shit if your a good drummer around here you have no choice but to be in at least 2 bands.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 23, 2014, 11:29:53 AM
ya here in austin it is a constantly rotating cast of merry melody makerz

I bet they are some enlightened circle of friends?   j/k sisterhood of the traveling pants??? just kiddingz
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 23, 2014, 11:49:26 AM
I play in three bands with the drummer, and like myself he's involved in a half-dozen projects.

The sax player is in three bands.

This is the only project the bassist is currently involved in.

I feel very fortunate to have assembled a group of players who really dig the music. And are cool with it being (for now at least) a boundary-pushing musical venture rather than money-making. I take care of them as best I can (eating the jam room cost when I can, letting the bassist use my rig, etc)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 23, 2014, 12:01:28 PM
would it make sense to rent a storage garage?  I know music labs charges like $15 an hour, and storage garage might only be $100-$200 a month and you could use that for all your bands, maybe that would help with landing better projects in the future?  You prolly already contemplated this, but just in case ;)
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 23, 2014, 12:06:19 PM
Most of my bands don't rehearse often enough (if at all) to necessitate a permanent practice spot. Or they have a spot covered.

I use my gear too often to leave it anywhere.

But it wouldn't be a bad idea if I had it in my budget. I have a PA and drums, would be nice to have them set up rather than sitting in my storage unit-storage unit.

We rehearse at Space. It's nicer, smaller, less noisy, and the name is very appropriate heh! It's worth the extra $3 per hour to not be surrounded by death metal bands.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 23, 2014, 12:52:44 PM
ETB played a lot of cover songs the few times I saw em play.  would you ever consider joining a cover band?  more $ that way, maybe the cover band would share the cost of the rental storage air conditioned room at like $200/month
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 23, 2014, 01:10:45 PM
Already playing covers with a band on Wed's/Fri's downtown. And have never rehearsed with them hahaha

The money isn't what I would like, but they are good dudes and fun to play with. And it's better than NOT playing every wed/fri that's for sure. Still on the hunt for a more stable-income related project so I can pare down the number of projects I am spreading myself too thin between in the often fruitless pursuit of trying to stay on top of bills.

ETB makes a living wage, but it was just time for me to move on. And it was damn near impossible while playing with them to put my own band together (Ocean of Stars), which was my first priority upon leaving. Now that I have a line-up, I need to make more money.



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 23, 2014, 01:31:39 PM
original bands in Austin is really tough since all the touring indie bands like to stop here to play to the college kids

my fav original bands play out like every 3 months to small crowds, and most original bands that I liked 3 years ago have fizzed out...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 23, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
Yup. The Austin Curse is still kind of in effect.

Original bands here either do well here and nowhere else, or do well on the road and wallow in obscurity here.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on July 23, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
Hey, look on the bright side. Band from here (Boise) wallow in obscurity regardless.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 23, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
Heh


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on July 23, 2014, 02:04:08 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on July 23, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
Hey, look on the bright side. Band from here (Boise) wallow in obscurity regardless.

Uzala rule, and I'm over 2000 miles away.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 23, 2014, 02:12:53 PM
Do most guitars go a bit sharp after they warm up from being played?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 23, 2014, 02:19:44 PM
I wonder if bigger cities like Dallas or Houston have a curse like that

the Austin curse is not good for original bands from Austin ...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 23, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 23, 2014, 02:12:53 PM
Do most guitars go a bit sharp after they warm up from being played?

No. Most properly set up guitars that warm up tend to go flat, while those that cool down tend to go sharp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 23, 2014, 02:56:25 PM
Quote from: RacerX on July 23, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 23, 2014, 02:12:53 PM
Do most guitars go a bit sharp after they warm up from being played?

No. Most properly set up guitars that warm up tend to go flat, while those that cool down tend to go sharp.

Oh yeah that sounds right, I had it backwards. It will be a bit sharp when I come back to it hours or days later.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on July 24, 2014, 12:17:12 AM
Quote from: xayk on July 23, 2014, 02:04:08 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on July 23, 2014, 01:49:16 PM
Hey, look on the bright side. Band from here (Boise) wallow in obscurity regardless.

Uzala rule, and I'm over 2000 miles away.

I beg to differ. I know 'em but I just don't care for the music. Same with Wolvserpent. Call me jaded.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on July 24, 2014, 10:42:34 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on July 24, 2014, 12:17:12 AM
I beg to differ. I know 'em but I just don't care for the music. Same with Wolvserpent. Call me jaded.

That's cool - there's no accounting for taste and etc. Just saying that Boise is MAKING IT'S PRESENCE KNOWN.

(I was completely underwhelmed by Wolvserpent live.)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on July 24, 2014, 06:59:13 PM
Point made, those are unrelated. I wish I liked the somewhat popular bands from here.

Now these guys, I really dig. Good friends too, we just played some dates with them. I hope they put another pin in the map here.
http://bliiss.bandcamp.com/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 25, 2014, 03:53:07 PM
Tracking the guitars for the last song on our upcoming ep and the tone for one long sparse B string only riff was sounding odd and lacking sustain.. delay pedal to the rescue! Got the timing right on with the tempo and it adds a ton of atmosphere and makes the song more interesting. Love this unit.

(http://adn.harmanpro.com/product_attachments/product_attachments/51_1396032219/DigiDelay_original.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on July 27, 2014, 04:48:04 PM
I want a Catalinbread Echorec. That thing sounds amazingly Floydian on bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 27, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Saw Yes here the other night, mind blowing, crystal clear sound. Steve Howe seemed to be going through a Line 6 combo and Chris Squire had a Line 6 guitar 4x12 mic'd. Couldn't see more than that. All we are doing is moving air, whatever sounds good is right. The synths were all or mostly digital and sounding digital but they sounded good enough. Their current singer is incredible.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 28, 2014, 03:37:33 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 27, 2014, 11:41:55 PM
Saw Yes here the other night, mind blowing, crystal clear sound. Steve Howe seemed to be going through a Line 6 combo and Chris Squire had a Line 6 guitar 4x12 mic'd. Couldn't see more than that. All we are doing is moving air, whatever sounds good is right. The synths were all or mostly digital and sounding digital but they sounded good enough. Their current singer is incredible.

sweet. the singer is even named John (not jon, that would have been too spooky).  he really is the perfect Jon Anderson clone. amazing.
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hey liquid, that slimmerman thing you linked is the second most crucial thing I have read regarding music construction. there is so much going on in his talking I cant absorb more than a section or two at one sitting. the situations, the techniques, the equipment. that dude's ears+experience is priceless.
victor wooten's book still #1.  I really thank you for linking that, just wow.

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i have a recording issue.

recording necessity:   make sure you can monitor your playback from a DAW simultaneously with the fresh realtime next track you are recording, not the input stream in the DAW. my old soundblaster Audigy had a great mixer and you could monitor anything from the card in the pc. soundblaster does not make a platinum Audigy for anything past win XP and no drivers are available for newer windows. now my PC is half duplex due to a)too user friendly asus bios and 2) lame fucking soundblasters now.  I have to use a "headphone mixer" and bring in the new signal and the playback from the DAW just for the phones.

does anyone have a real clean trick for monitoring both?  I am pondering how I can use 2 busses on the main 4-buss mixer as the DAW playback return. I just have to make sure the DAW playback doesn't get fed back into the recording mix. right now I just used my tiny mixer as a headphone mixer. handy but extra gear kludgy.
my dp-24 multitrack deck handles that internally. more points in favor of an all-in-1 shot recording unit, but when i am just recording demo/ideas, i want fast and easy into the pc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 28, 2014, 10:59:19 PM
Quote from: jibberish on July 28, 2014, 03:37:33 AM
hey liquid, that slimmerman thing you linked is the second most crucial thing I have read regarding music construction. there is so much going on in his talking I cant absorb more than a section or two at one sitting. the situations, the techniques, the equipment. that dude's ears+experience is priceless.

It's nuts. I read and skimmed some of it and soaked in a little but most of it is way too advanced for me. I just experiment with mic placement, volume, distortion level, etc until I get a good and good enough sounding recorded tone and start tracking.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 29, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
Post link again? I seem to have missed it and now cannot find it...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 29, 2014, 12:22:52 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 14, 2014, 06:48:42 PM
http://www.badmuckingfastard.com/sound/slipperman.html#contents

holy crap
.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 29, 2014, 12:39:51 PM
^
Back on the koolaid pineapple juice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 30, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
Donner (knockoff of Mooer micro pedals) have a couple of new ones, at introductory prices. Reverb, Modulation (Chorus, Flanger, Phaser, unfortunately only one at a time), a Phase 90 clone, and a booster.

I've had mixed results with these micro pedals (I like the Donner Rat clone and Mooer Reecho and Pitch Box, I don't like the Donner delay or Mooer Trelicopter). I will probably buy the Reverb and Modulation pedals (hope springs eternal) but use your own discretion. Aren't most reverbs based on the "Belton brick"? No room for a brick in this pedal, maybe it's like a Danelectro BLT (short delay-based reverb?)

(http://www.donnerdeal.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/135x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/c/ec781-3/donnerr-metric-bender-modulation-(-mxr-90+boss-ce-2+-mxr-flanger)-effect-pedal-true-bypass-ec781-18.jpg) (http://www.donnerdeal.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/135x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/c/ec782-3/donnerr-surge-rotater-reverb-guitar-effect-pedal-(strymon+boss-rv5)-true-bypass-ec782-17.jpg)

"Plump" sounding!

http://www.donnerdeal.com/brand/donner.html (http://www.donnerdeal.com/brand/donner.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 30, 2014, 07:51:15 PM
Now that I own a Moog delay I am forever ruined on delays.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 31, 2014, 08:21:59 PM
I bought a (used) Squier Jaguar on Ebay, because I don't need another guitar.

:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 31, 2014, 08:37:22 PM
You sick sonofabitch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on August 02, 2014, 08:54:40 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on July 31, 2014, 08:21:59 PM
I bought a (used) Squier Jaguar on Ebay, because I don't need another guitar.

:(

Dude, let's see it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 02, 2014, 12:28:19 PM
Yes, pics plz.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 02, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
Soon...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 05, 2014, 05:35:37 PM
Jaguar is here, it smells like cologne or maybe Irish Spring soap :(

Neck is a little bowed, and the old-fashioned bridge is a mess... two saddles are missing screws (G, B) and another one is shimmed (low E). Nut probably needs work too. A couple of tiny dings and pickguard shows wear (which I take as a positive - it's been played... it wasn't so shitty that it couldn't be used). Even with the issues, I can see that modern Squiers are much better quality than the average cheapy, and much better than they used to be... seems on par with an average Fender, as far as playability, quality of materials, fit and finish.

(I can guess why the neck is bowed - it's fretting out above the 12th fret, but the bridge is so wack that bowing the neck was probably how they tried to make it playable)

I paid $15 for shipping, label on box says he actually paid $53.  :o

I could upgrade to a Mastery Bridge but that costs about what I paid for the guitar.  ???

(http://s13.postimg.org/vewb7vr93/bridge.jpg)

(http://s13.postimg.org/xxi08kczb/jaguar.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on August 05, 2014, 05:44:16 PM
Love that color.  I think mine has a Mustang bridge on it now.  I always wanted to get a Mastery bridge, but them's expensive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 05, 2014, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: The Shocker on August 05, 2014, 05:44:16 PM
Love that color. 

Fist-bump. I like all the other retro Fender colors too (Sonic Blue, Fiesta Red etc). The most stoner rock color is black though ;)

In other news, my practice space hasn't had AC for the entire month of July. About to head over there now, I hope it's fixed now.  >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on August 05, 2014, 06:17:24 PM
Yeah, I would just get a Mustang bridge for it. They're a dime a dozen so to speak second hand, even here in Belgium. So I imagine there's definitely a shoegaze kid selling his on craigslist in NY ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on August 05, 2014, 07:04:35 PM
Sweet Jag. I've been stalking offset guitars for a long time now. Good on you for pulling le trigger.

I just took delivery of one of those Donner pedals. Needed a teeny little delay, and didn't want to fork over for the Flashback Mini. For $40, it's hard to complain.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on August 05, 2014, 08:21:52 PM
Just remember Lump, Skynyrd's practice space wasn't air conditioned.  In Florida. And when the other guys fucked up, Ronnie would start punching faces.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 06, 2014, 01:07:38 AM
They probably weren't paying almost 800/month for their room.  :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 06, 2014, 12:15:03 PM
Ocean of Stars sounded and felt strong last night.

Looking forward to tomorrow night's show at the Dirty Dog here in the ATX!

I will also be moonlighting later that night on bass with Thunderosa. Double-duty!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 08, 2014, 11:40:48 PM
aloha chovie


sleep well
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 10, 2014, 04:07:29 AM
There's a new Guitar Center in Times Square

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on August 10, 2014, 08:05:47 PM
Good Lord, just when you think they are done..

I finally figured out the secret to bonding with my JCM800, 65 watt celestion speakers. I got to try a 2204 on top of an old Marshall cab with 65 watt celestions and I could actually turn the treble and presence up on my amp more.

Looks like I need to pick up that cab after moving, other health expenses.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on August 11, 2014, 04:25:03 AM
Played a gig in TNT guitarist Ronnie Le Tekro's barn on saturday. Good times, he's a really cool (and funny!) guy. Tim Scott McConnell also played a killer show later that night.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on August 11, 2014, 08:38:33 PM
I have a Legend cab with a quad of original 1977 G12H65s and it's probably the best thing I've ever bought, gear-wise.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on August 11, 2014, 11:26:37 PM
Working two jobs to pay off bills.
Night job is a teaching gig.
Three students need to suffer NASCAR/sprint car style under wheel deaths.
Got a second interview for a swank new job.
Got a swank offer on my house in Big D.

Pray for me.

If it all comes through in a timely fashion I will be able to afford clothes, vegetables, and a dependable car.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 12, 2014, 01:07:07 AM
Getting around to tracking bass, kind of don't know what I'm doing. Too much farting and distortion from the cab for using a mic, working on getting a good DI sound from the Sansamp but getting too much hum on everything but running it clean. Grrrr. Going to try different rooms.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on August 12, 2014, 03:13:37 AM
Maybe try different angles/distances/mics? Imo the too much farting/distortion is exactly what you want to capture if that's your sound so just throw the mics on there and let the hideousness be ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 12, 2014, 10:49:36 AM
Try a lower power rig?

One of the best recording rigs I've ever accidentally stumbled across is using my Epiphone Valve Standard 15w chassis powering a lower end Ampeg 4x10
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 12, 2014, 12:05:01 PM
well, bass guitar can be very dynamic based on the player's picking, but tends to have dynamics anyways.  once the track is laid down, compress and recompress.  maybe throw a compressor onto the pedalboard as well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 12, 2014, 12:56:55 PM
I probably need a thicker B string but I'll raise the action a bit first and see if that helps. Regarding the hum I'm getting, read that it's best to have all gear that is connected running from one outlet so I'll also try that. My backup plan is to use batteries in the Tascam and Sansamp unit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 12, 2014, 08:24:15 PM
ya try to nip the offending stuff in the bud at the pass

I run my stuff through some high end furmans and cables when recording, but I dont think the tone is massively better, maybe just like 5%.  also I use decimator gstring and seymour duncan pickups or my emg81/85s on guitar.  some bassists just play certain notes louder when they hit a string or a finger.  using a pick helps some if it is pretty bad and you can play with a pick.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 13, 2014, 12:36:40 AM
I am using a pick for this tracking, it's just easier. My noise gate helps with the hum but you can still hear it while the notes are ringing because the gate lets all the sound through when it lets any sound through. If I put a finger on the metal volume knob on the bass the hum goes away. Going to keep experimenting. A last ditch resort will be to just record raw bass into the Tascam and try to reamp or spruce it up later in Protools.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 13, 2014, 06:50:44 PM
The latest Tape Op has a nice interview with Tom Werman (Cheap Trick, Motley Crue etc). I like reading interviews with some of the mainstream big-budget producers. Even if I don't always like the music, they have good war stories (and sometimes tech info). Shep Gordon and Jack Richardson also come to mind, in this regard (good interviews).

You guys read Tape Op, right?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on August 15, 2014, 07:34:22 PM
I wish they offered this in Natural or red

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/16/edy9yhas.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on August 16, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
I did this through my old 5 watt Frenzel into my Leslie 120 (1x12). One of the finest bass tones I ever conjured IMO.
http://psychedelicsexorgan.bandcamp.com/track/nicks-space-ride
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 16, 2014, 02:44:18 PM
Had some amp issues last night.

Played Threadgills World HQ (outside stage) on fill-in bass with Eric Tessmer Band.

Been using my JCM800 as a bass amp as SVT still in the shop. Not as powerful but sounds great. Sounded great during 6pm soundcheck.

It cut out during the first song.

Spent the first half of the song trying to find the problem. Hooked up the SWR backup and joined back in right before the guitar solo \m/,

An hour plus in and the SWR shut down. It did power back up after a few seconds, and it was hot to the touch. As in leave your hand there and it will burn you.

Even 30+ minutes after we were done the SWR was still as hot as a cast iron skillet.

It has a fan (which can be turned off via switch -- it was on) but not sure it's working.

Guess I should look into that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 16, 2014, 03:43:51 PM
^ yikes! Is it possible that something was going on with the cab/cabs?


Did some test drum tracking today with an SM57 a couple inches from the kick and a cheap condenser for everything else and it sounded incredibly good, probably better than we could do micing each drum individually and spending hours and hours tweaking everything in Protools. Clear and natural rather than metal brutal but I think it's going to work just fine. Sounds great in the mix raw even.

Thinking about tracking bass straight into the Tascam raw and then using some PT virtual amps but I need to research that some more. Would solve the hum/buzz issues.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on August 16, 2014, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on August 16, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
I did this through my old 5 watt Frenzel into my Leslie 120 (1x12). One of the finest bass tones I ever conjured IMO.
http://psychedelicsexorgan.bandcamp.com/track/nicks-space-ride

Sweet little track, dude. Great band name too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 17, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Hopefully was just an overheating issue. It was an outdoor gig in the Texas heat. And I was driving both amps hard, loud band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 17, 2014, 10:22:47 PM
do you use high end furmans?   I have seen certain outlets around town frying amps.  I saw like three people plug into a wall outlet at the old emos location and that happened.  power is bad downtown, and gets worse with all the lights on a friday night when the grid is overworked. 

dirty power.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on August 17, 2014, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: agent of change on August 16, 2014, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: mutantcolors on August 16, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
I did this through my old 5 watt Frenzel into my Leslie 120 (1x12). One of the finest bass tones I ever conjured IMO.
http://psychedelicsexorgan.bandcamp.com/track/nicks-space-ride

Sweet little track, dude. Great band name too.

Thanks, everything PSO is my solo stuff with the obvious exception of the collaboration with Obscured by the Sun, for whom I now play drums.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 18, 2014, 12:10:44 PM
I use a Furman but not one of the high end ones. Does tell me if the power is squirrelly, and it was not.

Used the SWR again twice next night, one gig was outdoors. No problems and wasn't running as hot, but it was a short 40 set and wasn't nearly as loud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on August 18, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
Try a different speaker cable and/or cabinet? 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 19, 2014, 08:15:34 AM
Ive been on this forum since 2007... dude Danny you have the worst luck with amps!

sorry to say but I think it is the dirty electricity.

you can't see whether electricity is dirty/squirrelly with a lower end furman. it damages gear over time.  then when you play out on a Friday night in Austin, the electricity grid is already overworked because of the massive overpopulation without the electrical grid expansion, and then with all the lights and sound from all the bars draining at the same time, it constantly wears down your amps.  If you are turning them up pretty high and cranking them, you are making them use that dirty electricity to their full capacity and that really wears them down.   I know you like that 215 cab.  I use both my 410 cabs that weigh 40 pounds cause their neodymium, and I never have to turn up that much.

I invested in this furman:  http://www.zzounds.com/item--FURP1800PF  got it on sale for like $350 during christmas
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on August 19, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
What is "dirty electricity" exactly? From what you're describing, it sounds like it's a situation where his amps are getting less power because other things nearby are also using power?

Also, I've read that Furmans are just a lot of hype. Like the Monster Cable of power strips.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 19, 2014, 02:24:36 PM
Mine is the glorified power strip kind.

But still handy as it's rack mountable and I can plug everything into it and just use 1 wall plug.

So far my luck with gear has improved and stabilized in the past 2-3 years or so hahaha. I just use it so much and so hard (insert joke there) that anything that can't hack just falls apart.

Haven't blown any speakers since selling the Fender TB-600 to a friend. Marshall still has fresh tubes and has been sounding great even as a bass amp (haven't tried firing it up since it cut out on Friday tho). Just got the SVT back from Bill Webb who retubed it, replaced the filter caps and fixed some other issues with it. Sounded great last night. And since the existing filter caps final went after 40-ish years, I shouldn't have to worry about them again til I'm 80.

As for the gear failure Friday night, I'm still leaning towards the Texas heat as the main culprit. We set up around 5:30 and left everything onstage until we played at 10pm, then played loud til midnight.

The Marshall has been performing great in all applications, even powering the 2x15.

The SWR is still the wild card as its new (to me). Have noticed that even tho I tell the exhaust fan to stay on, it doesn't always stay on. It was running cast-iron skillet hot Friday night. Saturday played an short outdoor set with it at a lower volume. Was a little warm but still ran fine. And I don't think the exhaust fan kicked in.

I've been meaning to take it apart anyway to see what kind if preamp tubes are in it. Will check out the fan while I'm at it.

If worst came to worst I could just buy a clip-on fan and install it in my rack case \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 19, 2014, 03:50:39 PM
cool brutha \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 19, 2014, 04:36:18 PM
Quote from: Danny G on August 19, 2014, 02:24:36 PM
If worst came to worst I could just buy a clip-on fan and install it in my rack case \m/,

Not a bad idea if you're playing in the heat, whether the internal fan works or not. Also, you might want extra space around your amp (a bigger rack case with empty slots). And check where the vents are (some amps have them on the sides... why they do that?? ??)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 19, 2014, 07:01:47 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/20/e4apepuj.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/20/paze3eje.jpg)

Stonerrock goodness...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on August 19, 2014, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: Jake on August 19, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
What is "dirty electricity" exactly? From what you're describing, it sounds like it's a situation where his amps are getting less power because other things nearby are also using power?

Also, I've read that Furmans are just a lot of hype. Like the Monster Cable of power strips.

Resistance loads vs. inductive loads vs. capacitive loads.  Herein lies the answer to the question.  In inductive loads such as air conditioner motor loads the sine waves of power can be up to 90 degrees out of sync where the sine wave of electromotive force, E, or volts leads the current, I, or amps by previously stated 90 degrees.  Capacitive loads are inverse to inductive loads and amps lead volts by 90 degrees.  Resistive loads are unified.  When the utility provides power they are supposed to provide unified power which delivers 100% efficiency and often correct out of sync power and bill entities with a power corrections charge for having crap power loads which affect the utility power.  Typically this is using banks of capacitors to balance motor loads during summer.  However, if you are local to a bunch of wacked out capacitive and inductive loads the efficiency of the power will be constantly changing and you will not get full power from your receptacle.  Thus power conditioners are sold.  There is a boat load of trig to explain this graphically. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on August 20, 2014, 01:23:34 AM
played a show tonight with our band and my bandmates kids band, the velcro mullets. they killed for 14, 13, and two 12 year olds. they brought out about 30 people, who all left after their set, but it was fun.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1461304_10203313521011441_6753875933656128400_n.jpg?oh=b997b96a5c6722cb9006f500e71630f4&oe=546AB8EC&__gda__=1415667413_7387a59415d8167f85b1da8516ab4af3)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10576953_10203313521051442_17158068231519494_n.jpg?oh=4fbc280c8a7bfa01f54accd06ac33dc8&oe=5467C759&__gda__=1417704929_5240c9717144dad5d885277ae6fa48f9)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on August 20, 2014, 08:03:59 AM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on August 19, 2014, 07:01:47 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/20/e4apepuj.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/20/paze3eje.jpg)

Stonerrock goodness...

Like I said in the latest "bass amp for geetar" thread, that shit works.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on August 20, 2014, 10:14:31 AM
More Tele pics please.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 20, 2014, 10:42:00 AM
The Velcro Mullets. Awesome!

I've still never run guitar through my SVT and 2x15. That needs to change.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on August 20, 2014, 05:14:55 PM
Those pics reignite my desire for a burst/black/maple Esquire.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 20, 2014, 06:01:27 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/21/by9u6yry.jpg)

This also happened.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 20, 2014, 08:21:58 PM
anyone ever play through the kirk hammett series randall half stack.?? is it any good?? 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 20, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
I thought he was playing thru the axefxII nowzerz
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 20, 2014, 11:36:42 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 20, 2014, 08:21:58 PM
anyone ever play through the kirk hammett series randall half stack.?? is it any good?? 

depends on what you consider good? It does what it does, really well, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 21, 2014, 01:31:10 AM
Quote from: Jake on August 19, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
What is "dirty electricity" exactly? From what you're describing, it sounds like it's a situation where his amps are getting less power because other things nearby are also using power?

Also, I've read that Furmans are just a lot of hype. Like the Monster Cable of power strips.
I aint no scientist, but when someone plugs in an appliance and I hear it in my amp I dont like that...  imagine how it is with some schlock electrician designed barhole in the wall bar electricity setup, with a front of house speaker and lights blasting

times 50 other bars in Austin all at the same time ;)


here is the review of the rackmount version of my Furman:

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Close_Up_Furman_P_1800_PF_R_Power_Conditioner_Surge_Suppressor

The studio applications for power conditioning equipment are obvious, but for some reason a lot of players are comfortable rolling the dice and using office-supply-store power strips for gigs, only to scramble for that potentially deadly 99-cent, two-prong adapter when that inevitable buzz rears its ugly head.



Our demo unit handled amp testing in various circuits with aplomb, providing slightly to dramatically cleaner sound (not to mention peace of mind) when A/B'd with a Furman Merit X Series conditioner, a number of strips, and no conditioner at all.




mine has all this technology, IT IS LEGIT:

Power Factor Technology
Power Factor Technology supplies 45+ amps of instantaneous reserve current, on demand, for power starved amplifiers.
Surge Protection
Furman's exclusive SMP technology provides the highest level of surge & spike protection available.
Noise Filtration
LiFT offers AC power filtering to ensure clean power for unequaled audio & video clarity.
Voltage Protection
Advanced EVS circuitry detects dangerous voltage irregularities and safely powers down itself and connected equipment in unsafe conditions.
Diagnostic Lights
LED status indicators warn you when voltage is outside of nominal range or when protection has been compromised.
Isolated Banks
Isolated outlet banks minimize inter-component interference and noise contamination.
Clear Tone Technology
Clear Tone Technology provides tuned filtering circuits engineered for instrument amplifiers to provide a clean and consistent tone.
Voltmeter
Large digital voltmeter with discrete dimmer button displays incoming line voltage.
Wall Wart Spacing
Three widely spaced outlets accommodate bulky AC power transformers.
15 AMP Rating
15 Amp rating featuring a high inrush magnetic circuit breaker for added protection.
Nine Total Outlets
Nine total outlets (8 rear panel outlets and one front panel convenience outlet).
BNC Lamp Connector
Rear panel BNC connector powers any standard gooseneck lamp for rear rack illumination.
USB Charger
Front panel USB convenience outlets allows you to charge most media devices or power a USB lamp.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 21, 2014, 01:09:59 PM
"Clear Tone Technology"

I just like the sound of that grouping of words.


Have been able to fire up the SVT a few times since getting it back Monday.

How I have missed her. And the tech wasn't kidding: other than the sound of the exhaust fan, it's quiet as a mouse. Holy shit. Have noticed a few of the controls are responding slightly different, not sure if that was from new preamp tubes or from him fixing some minor wiring issues.

Man I love this amp and glad I got the work done to it. Forgot how much it LOVES my 2x15 as well.  #toneboner
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 21, 2014, 02:56:29 PM
I've found I really like playing guitar through bass amps with 15's  It sounds crazy but my buddy has a behringer 15 combo bass amp that sounds wicked with my guitar!  I'm not sure that it is road worthy but it does sound good in the context that we are playing it in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 22, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
Hey bass players:


Your guitar player is doing a heavy 2 note power chord riff on the lowest strings like this-

5  7  6  8  10  9  11  13
3  5  6  6   8   9   9   11

What do you play over-

6
6

?

You're a note short to go low. To me low string fret 6 doesn't sound right and the next higher string on 6 although correct takes away the heaviness of the guitar. An octave up sounds weird. Not playing sounds like a hole. 6 & 6 chord sounds too muddy on bass in B.

Over the 9 & 9 I go down to 2 which sounds great.

Tracking bass and stumped.

Another low string would be great but it's not happening.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 22, 2014, 05:58:26 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 22, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
Hey bass players:


Your guitar player is doing a heavy 2 note power chord riff on the lowest strings like this-

5  7  6  8  10  9  11  13
3  5  6  6   8   9   9   11

What do you play over-

6
6

?

You're a note short to go low. To me low string fret 6 doesn't sound right and the next higher string on 6 although correct takes away the heaviness of the guitar. An octave up sounds weird. Not playing sounds like a hole. 6 & 6 chord sounds too muddy on bass in B.

Over the 9 & 9 I go down to 2 which sounds great.

Tracking bass and stumped.

Another low string would be great but it's not happening.

hmm, what would victor wooten do? heh.
I would throw a trick in there. a slide, a harmonic, a twang. like cop out via something more percussive and not trying to assemble a coherent chord since it sounds like chordal options are pretty tapped out.  idk, something to maybe think about.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on August 22, 2014, 05:59:43 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 22, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
Hey bass players:


Your guitar player is doing a heavy 2 note power chord riff on the lowest strings like this-

5  7  6  8  10  9  11  13
3  5  6  6   8   9   9   11

What do you play over-

6
6

?

You're a note short to go low. To me low string fret 6 doesn't sound right and the next higher string on 6 although correct takes away the heaviness of the guitar. An octave up sounds weird. Not playing sounds like a hole. 6 & 6 chord sounds too muddy on bass in B.

Over the 9 & 9 I go down to 2 which sounds great.

Tracking bass and stumped.

Another low string would be great but it's not happening.
I would play the root note which looks like it's probably 3 or G in standard tuning (depending on the rest of the song).  The reason why is this looks like a riff that isn't using any specific scale but the chromatic as it has a ii, iii, vi, vii, VII so if you get too cute with your playing it's going to sound bad.  You could also try a second string 5h6 which might sound cool.  Depending on the speed I might throw both in hit the root on the strong beat and then do the hammer into a second hammer on the second string up to the 8 in the next part of the riff.  so something like what I put below under the 66 and 68 diads.  

a  ----5h6h8-------
e  --3--------6-----

When in doubt root.  
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 22, 2014, 06:04:00 AM
get a "really bigsby" whammy for your bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on August 22, 2014, 10:54:02 AM
I would try hitting that higher string 6 (not because it's correct but because it breaks up the pattern of playing the low string root note) but accentuate it with a wah-wah burst, just for that note, or some other effect or volume boost that makes it stand out a little bit more.

/playedbassonceinaband
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on August 22, 2014, 12:36:57 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 22, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
Hey bass players:


Your guitar player is doing a heavy 2 note power chord riff on the lowest strings like this-

5  7  6  8  10  9  11  13
3  5  6  6   8   9   9   11

What do you play over-

6
6

?

You're a note short to go low. To me low string fret 6 doesn't sound right and the next higher string on 6 although correct takes away the heaviness of the guitar. An octave up sounds weird. Not playing sounds like a hole. 6 & 6 chord sounds too muddy on bass in B.

Over the 9 & 9 I go down to 2 which sounds great.

Tracking bass and stumped.

Another low string would be great but it's not happening.

Obviously there's room for harmony, but the simplest answer for that situation is the root not, which would be the higher note on the sixth fret in that case. That's an inverted power chord. A perfect fifth, but the root note is the higher note and the fifth the lower. The rhythm guitarist in Cold Mourning used them a lot.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 22, 2014, 02:47:34 PM
The root(fret 6) would seem to make sense but it's not doing it for me in this case because of the way the riff progresses. As I was drifting off to sleep last night the solution hit me- simply tune down half a step so I can hit the low A(which sounds more like the true root) and record this section separately so it can be inserted into the song when we get everything loaded into Protools. When we get to finding another bass player and playing out live again they can figure something else out. I just want that 6/6 chord to really explode on guitar with doom power and a low A on bass will help a lot. Hitting the low root on the 9/9 strum involves a quick slide down to the third fret and it sounds excellent. I've been badly neglecting my bass in recent years and am really enjoying the writing and tracking process for our ep.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 22, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
Nice! Problem solved \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 22, 2014, 11:28:56 PM
this should put a smile on a few faces around here. hades mining co. [my crappy noisecore band]  short fast + loud #28 summer 2014.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/l/t1.0-9/10632772_343813735775258_747990186652614725_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 23, 2014, 01:49:59 AM
Wow. That's such a bad review it somehow becomes kind of awesome #win
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 23, 2014, 02:05:45 AM
I set out to release the worlds worst record. hence the title. looks like I achieved my goal. haha
the reviewer went out of their way to insult us.. you know you struck a nerve when that happens. #win
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 23, 2014, 05:21:34 AM
 :D

You should write a song called Dante's Exploratory Drilling.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 23, 2014, 02:36:08 PM
I assume the reviewer was referring to the legendary eric wood of man is the bastard. im not sure who 'eric woods' is. hahahah fuckin dumbass..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 04:09:26 PM
I had kind of a weird/shitty experience at my local synth store yesterday where I have purchased many things including my new Moog Sub 37.  These guys know that I'm a beginner at this stuff and I don't always know the technical jargon or even some of the fundamentals.  So I went in because I had a couple questions on the new synth.  I'm currently waiting on a hard copy manual and yes I can download the manual too but manuals are sometimes full of the jargon I don't quite understand.  I'm a hands on guy. The owner seemed put out and got really frustrated and just basically rushed away when he thought he'd answered me enough.  So needless to say i'm a bit fucking pissed at the lack of attention.  Especially being someone in sales.  I don;t expect everybody than comes into my work to be an expert on RV's and know the jargon.  They don;t work there, I do.  I'm the expert and it's my job to patiently educate them.

There are other places where I can spend my money I guess.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on August 25, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
I feel the same way when I go in music stores.  Must attract a certain type of employee.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 25, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
There's a lot of 'cooler than thou' bullshit in the synth world. Probably because that's the only situation in life where they can have a pecking order where they're not at rock bottom. What good is knowing all that esoteric electronic shit if you can't use it to denigrate somebody? It's a universe of socially inept misfits. Etc etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 25, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: The Shocker on August 25, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
I feel the same way when I go in music stores.  Must attract a certain type of employee.

Record stores too. God forbid you go inside wearing the wrong t-shirt.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
So many of these people know the gear in and out and all the programming tech shit but all they can do is bleep bloop.  Nothing musical.  His sales guy that works for him seems to be alright but he's an ex GC employee so I'm always a bit guarded.  And he's a total wheeler dealer.  Does know his shit and can play.  We text sometimes.  He's been trying to get me into modular, probably just to sell me his cast offs. Next time he does I will let him know why he hasn't seen me in the shop.

Let's break out some guitars or drums mother fucker. :P  Oh can't play? Like I thought.

I don't collect vinyl.  I'd prolly punch somebody.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 25, 2014, 07:28:27 PM
thats obviously your first mistake. you dont collect vinyl. whats a matter for you..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 07:32:19 PM
Like I need another goddamm hobby.  Thinkn about selling some cars and some gear.  Fuck, I still have my golf clubs.  Haven't played in like 4 years.  Fuck is wrong with me?  Ain't gettin rid o my fishin gear though.  Still do that 2 or 3 times a year.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 25, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
dump the golf clubs..buy vinyl. ill trade you vinyl for home cooked meals..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 08:04:34 PM
You should see what I have in store for tonight. Then it's back to oatmeal and Cheerios tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on August 25, 2014, 09:11:42 PM
sounds shitty rager. I would not want to go back there.

The thing about synth stuff is it's really skewed towards what and how much gear you have. The playing music part sometimes seems secondary, at best, when you step into that world.

I like to make weird sounds just as much as the next guy, so it's hard to fault someone for not having much skill and just being happy making blips and bleeps. just getting the things to make any sound can be difficult for a beginner if you don't have someone to show you around. even experienced people can get lost. The manual usually shows you cool tricks and has good basic knowledge on how that particular synth works. I like to have a hard copy too. even if I only use it a few times.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 25, 2014, 11:07:07 PM
Don't use cheap SDHC cards in digital recorders. Spend a little more money and get a 'fast' one.



I'm going to challenge my roommate to make a song using only his Microbrute one track at a time by hand. Dialing in each sound for each track Kraftwerk pre-midi style.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 11:10:35 PM
Microbrute can make just about any sound. Should be easy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 25, 2014, 11:14:18 PM
There is some neat stuff on youtube.

I'd like to see a live band of 4 or 5 people each with one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on August 26, 2014, 12:03:05 AM
I do that with a loop pedal and my minibrute. You don't need midi or cv. It's easy once you get used to it, but challenging when performing live. I like my sampler for having some good sounds ready at the press of a button.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 26, 2014, 02:19:43 AM
Quote from: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
So many of these people know the gear in and out and all the programming tech shit but all they can do is bleep bloop.  Nothing musical. 

Post of the week.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Instead of double or quad tracking guitars for that fuller heavier sound is it possible to achieve a similar thing simply by copying them and offsetting them ever so slightly?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 26, 2014, 03:35:06 PM
no, not possible as it will never sound the same as recording 4 guitar tracks.  I have tried that many times.  nothing sounds like anything else.

I prefer dual tracking though with two different cabs/mics for each track though which is similar to what your question is about. it sounds huge and not that muddy that way to my ears.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on August 26, 2014, 03:45:55 PM
Well, if you record a direct track the same time as a mic'ed track, there are certainly ways to fatten it. I've done it with amp simulation software or reamping the dry signal back into something else mic'ed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on August 26, 2014, 04:27:17 PM
In my experience, multiple tracks of an instrument only tend to fatten up the sound if they're different/complimentary to each other. A bunch tracks of something almost identical just makes mud and lots of phasing issues. If I'm going to double track something with the exact same rig/settings, I usually at least use a different mic or position to give it some variance.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 26, 2014, 05:22:21 PM
I read that Tom from Boston used to re-tune and pan is his guitar for every track, having them just slightly different pitch and in a different place in the spectrum.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on August 26, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Instead of double or quad tracking guitars for that fuller heavier sound is it possible to achieve a similar thing simply by copying them and offsetting them ever so slightly?
It just don't work that way amigo, the nuances between tracks is part of the magic. Even the extreme techy dudes who need surgical precision can't pull that trick.

Even the slightest little variance will make a huge boost in your sound, like rolling your tone knob back to 7 on the rhythm track, etc etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2014, 11:16:21 PM
Makes sense. Somewhat different tone plus another run through. I can use a different amp, cab, and mic. I find tracking guitar to be exhausting but it should be worth the effort.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 26, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
I usually track two separate rhythm tracks to thicken it up.

But in a pinch have gotten good results using two diff mics (one close, one 12-18" away) on two separate tracks to get a thicker tone from a single run through
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 27, 2014, 12:08:54 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on August 26, 2014, 02:19:43 AM
Quote from: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
So many of these people know the gear in and out and all the programming tech shit but all they can do is bleep bloop.  Nothing musical. 

Post of the week.
that's pretty much 95% of the 'noise' artists out there. haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 27, 2014, 01:54:59 AM
Quote from: Danny G on August 26, 2014, 11:46:44 PM
I usually track two separate rhythm tracks to thicken it up.

But in a pinch have gotten good results using two diff mics (one close, one 12-18" away) on two separate tracks to get a thicker tone from a single run through

I have two tracks recorded now from different mics side by side but only one play through so when panned hard left and hard right it still sounds almost like one track center. It is thicker than one though because of the tonal variation of the mics.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 27, 2014, 06:46:50 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on August 25, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
Quote from: The Shocker on August 25, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
I feel the same way when I go in music stores.  Must attract a certain type of employee.

Record stores too. God forbid you go inside wearing the wrong t-shirt.

I can't stand the record store snobbery.  There's a great record store here that I will not go in because the owner is such a social douchebag.  They don't open the store until 1:00pm so quickly running in and picking something up on my lunch hour is out of the question.  Fucking douchebag record store owners.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: lordfinesse on August 28, 2014, 12:25:22 AM
Quote from: Pissy on August 27, 2014, 06:46:50 AM

I can't stand the record store snobbery.  There's a great record store here that I will not go in because the owner is such a social douchebag.  They don't open the store until 1:00pm so quickly running in and picking something up on my lunch hour is out of the question.  Fucking douchebag record store owners.


I don't mind him. I will say that he has had way more conversation with Devo than he ever has with me. Courtney could probably say the same.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Instead of double or quad tracking guitars for that fuller heavier sound is it possible to achieve a similar thing simply by copying them and offsetting them ever so slightly?

shifting a track is adding a delay, a super clean delay

you can dupe a track 3-4 times and then just push them around in the DAW until you get a crazy echo sound.  one drum track duped 2x and the dupes moved around is sick. and you pan the dupes around in th stereo field too to really make it neato

the reason double tracking is thicker is due to chorusing. you dont do both takes exactly the same, exactly in phase etc, so it sounds thicker

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 01:01:46 AM
Quote from: RAGER on August 25, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
So many of these people know the gear in and out and all the programming tech shit but all they can do is bleep bloop.  Nothing musical.  His sales guy that works for him seems to be alright but he's an ex GC employee so I'm always a bit guarded.  And he's a total wheeler dealer.  Does know his shit and can play.  We text sometimes.  He's been trying to get me into modular, probably just to sell me his cast offs. Next time he does I will let him know why he hasn't seen me in the shop.

Let's break out some guitars or drums mother fucker. :P  Oh can't play? Like I thought.

I don't collect vinyl.  I'd prolly punch somebody.

it is your money. the true dude is the dude that helps out after the sale. you know exactly what I mean.
your money is boss. it can go elsewhere

everyone starts out being bleep bloopers.

rager, I have a first keyboard song for you to learn. it is the closest thing to riffs I can think of.  1st song in well tempered Klavier by bach. there are about a thousand instructional videos teaching the prelude in C major (it is the rhythm part to Gounod's "Ave Maria" but we don't do the opera singing part, just the cool repeating riffs)

"who the fuck is this gonad dude?"  <-there I would have posted this as a response, so I will anyway haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 28, 2014, 03:14:44 AM
Quote from: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Instead of double or quad tracking guitars for that fuller heavier sound is it possible to achieve a similar thing simply by copying them and offsetting them ever so slightly?



the reason double tracking is thicker is due to chorusing. you dont do both takes exactly the same, exactly in phase etc, so it sounds thicker



that reminds me I was talking to this guy and he was telling me that "pro's" double everything and the real pro's do it so well you don't know it's been doubled.  I said if you don't know it's doubled what's the point, he says it makes it thicker, I said if it sounds thicker than that means you can tell LOL  maybe I'm missing something but I don't think he got it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 03:59:20 AM
Quote from: spookstrickland on August 28, 2014, 03:14:44 AM
Quote from: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 26, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Instead of double or quad tracking guitars for that fuller heavier sound is it possible to achieve a similar thing simply by copying them and offsetting them ever so slightly?



the reason double tracking is thicker is due to chorusing. you dont do both takes exactly the same, exactly in phase etc, so it sounds thicker



that reminds me I was talking to this guy and he was telling me that "pro's" double everything and the real pro's do it so well you don't know it's been doubled.  I said if you don't know it's doubled what's the point, he says it makes it thicker, I said if it sounds thicker than that means you can tell LOL  maybe I'm missing something but I don't think he got it.

8D


ok, I believe the cutoff is the line between the track sounding like one "voice" vs sounding like something done twice.
the goal being one rich and thick and chocolaty voice built from the trickery of the superior blend which doesn't come off like it was 2 tracks, just one killer track.

Also, if you compare the initial single track to the doubled track, yes you could tell.
but before the album is released no one but the studio folks will hear that sub assembly.
if you just bought the album, you wont know at the get-go that that thick track was actually doubled. you weren't told and the player/singer was pro and really duped that performance like a pro heh.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 04:14:01 AM
in high school, I heard god's own chorusing for the first time. y'all can experience this amazing shit for yourselves also.
dead serious. I had no idea about anything guitar/effects/etc at that time either

where? cleveland orchestra live at severance.
the violin section. watching 30 bows moving in near-perfect unison.
that rich thick buzz that comes from that all live is like nothing else I have ever heard.
that shit cant even be recorded, there is so much going on.
recordings are very nice, but not pure 30 chorused violins. your ear and brain has to get that shit directly to actually hear it all.
it blew me away, and I had no idea wtf was up, walking in there that day.

I think huge super pro choirs possess extreme power over us because the parts are layered phatt with so many people singing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on August 29, 2014, 02:03:19 PM
We had our first show lined up for the 18th of November but wanted to play sooner if the opportunity would come. I got a call today from a good friend who's putting up a show for a touring Chinese punk band and she asked if we wanted to play. Since I don't really care where we play or with who, that'll suits us just fine. It's on the 30th of September so a bit sooner but what the hell.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on August 29, 2014, 07:01:46 PM
Fucking crackheads in my area.  $1100 for a JCM800 combo. The fuck is that?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 30, 2014, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
shifting a track is adding a delay, a super clean delay

you can dupe a track 3-4 times and then just push them around in the DAW until you get a crazy echo sound

Pushing them around ever so slightly is what I'm curious about. We haven't loaded everything into the computer yet or we would try it. Not looking for crazy delay, just that double tracked thick sound when things are off just enough. If pushing the tracks apart ever so slightly in Protools could get that result I wouldn't do another rhythm take for each song. Google search time..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 31, 2014, 12:09:32 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 30, 2014, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: jibberish on August 28, 2014, 12:49:51 AM
shifting a track is adding a delay, a super clean delay

you can dupe a track 3-4 times and then just push them around in the DAW until you get a crazy echo sound

Pushing them around ever so slightly is what I'm curious about. We haven't loaded everything into the computer yet or we would try it. Not looking for crazy delay, just that double tracked thick sound when things are off just enough. If pushing the tracks apart ever so slightly in Protools could get that result I wouldn't do another rhythm take for each song. Google search time..

worth a try.

can you add effects in the daw like some chorusing? are there any "swing" features that can slightly warp the timing? does your daw have a pitch shifter?
I wonder if nearly inaudible additions of some of these types of distortions would do the trick. you can make as many dupe tracks as you want and very slightly taint each one a different way.

i'm interested in your results, as I do this kind of shit to try and cheat my way out of another take. that's how I found my zero latency delay trick with dupe tracks.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 31, 2014, 11:52:38 AM
Wife's at her family reunion, so I've set up the big rig for the weekend.

It's been over a year since I plugged it all in, so gonna have some fun...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Angostura on August 31, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
It's a great trick I've used often. Duplicate track, zoom in, shove it over just a touch, pan each hard opposite. Not only does it make the guitar sound huge, but it gives a wide open space in the middle of the mix for everything else.

Our tune "march into darkness" features this technique.

I have a Waves doubler plug-in that can de-tune and shift. It can get pretty wicked sounding when you start  de-tuning. You hear the original and the shifted notes fighting it out. It's cool, and I'm gonna find a use for it somewhere.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 31, 2014, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: Angostura on August 31, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
It's a great trick I've used often. Duplicate track, zoom in, shove it over just a touch, pan each hard opposite. Not only does it make the guitar sound huge, but it gives a wide open space in the middle of the mix for everything else.

Our tune "march into darkness" features this technique.

Makes sense. I don't imagine it sounds the same as double or quad tracking but we'll try it. If it sounds huge that will be awesome. Hear you on hard panning too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 31, 2014, 11:16:26 PM
Quote from: jibberish on August 31, 2014, 12:09:32 AM
worth a try.

can you add effects in the daw like some chorusing? are there any "swing" features that can slightly warp the timing? does your daw have a pitch shifter?
I wonder if nearly inaudible additions of some of these types of distortions would do the trick. you can make as many dupe tracks as you want and very slightly taint each one a different way.

i'm interested in your results, as I do this kind of shit to try and cheat my way out of another take. that's how I found my zero latency delay trick with dupe tracks.


Will look for/try these too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 01, 2014, 07:38:17 AM
hard to beat a real double track tho..

this was just 2 guitars (+drum machine and vocal experiment)
the first phrase after the intro garbage was 1 guitar, then the second one adds in, and it is louder, but also much thicker.
this is also a good example why I would never get rid of that boss MT-2.  very sweet sounding with either of my LP's, even into, I think, the digital 8track..pretty old recording

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/myberwick[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Angostura on September 01, 2014, 01:52:29 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 31, 2014, 11:15:14 PM
If it sounds huge that will be awesome. Hear you on hard panning too.

Panning is the key. It only takes the slightest shove to get the right effect. Too much and it will sound like a slapback delay.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 01, 2014, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: jibberish on September 01, 2014, 07:38:17 AM
hard to beat a real double track tho..

this was just 2 guitars (+drum machine and vocal experiment)
the first phrase after the intro garbage was 1 guitar, then the second one adds in, and it is louder, but also much thicker.
this is also a good example why I would never get rid of that boss MT-2.  very sweet sounding with either of my LP's, even into, I think, the digital 8track..pretty old recording

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/myberwick[/soundcloud]

whoa, this is very unique sounding
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2014, 10:31:58 AM
I was playing around with some techniques yesterday and tried something new that I think turned out pretty cool.  I use amp modeling software (specifically Guitar Rig 4) and usually I'll apply a unique FX/amp set up to each guitar track.  This time I made a master track with the guitar rig set up and then routed multiple guitar tracks to it, which were panned.  So I'd record one part split about 80/20 to the left on the neck pickup then record a different/complimentary part with 20/80 to the right on the bridge pickup.  This fed into a single amplifier (set in stereo mode).  Anything else I changed (i.e. EQ, saturation) was done to the master track.  One of the strengths of this technique is that it gave a nice continuity to the guitar tracks.  It also made editing simpler since I didn't have to try to recreate all the changes I made to whatever other guitar tracks there were.  You can be the judge on the results.  You may have to copy/paste the link since it's a private track.

https://soundcloud.com/rowsdowerband/7-4-gm-riffs-mixdown-v2/s-bbL0h
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 02, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
Band search, take 3678467829377390282908. I hope that I will not give up this time...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 03, 2014, 09:04:44 AM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on September 02, 2014, 10:31:58 AM
I was playing around with some techniques yesterday and tried something new that I think turned out pretty cool.
https://soundcloud.com/rowsdowerband/7-4-gm-riffs-mixdown-v2/s-bbL0h

fun track.  heh, i thought we were in for some primus worship right when it first started. hard to listen to the instruments and not the tune (that's a compliment). the guitar has a nice rounded tone to it, and no 2-track slop ever peeks out the edges doing it this way. how did that sound vs just a single one of the tracks in that mix?


this brings me to another question which I may have to play around with:

Do you want the smear of double tracking on a clean guitar voice?   A guitar played nicely sounds nice as is. i would consider what someone mentioned regarding tracking a second but complimentary track maybe. IDK or do this dupe+fatten trickery before i double tracked clean guitars.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 03, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
Thanks!  I didn't even try having a single guitar down the middle since it was always intended to be a 2-guitar song.  A single guitar obviously sounds weak by itself when mainly panned to one side.  At first I had two similar, but different amp models (which were pretty heavily distorted by the way) and I think the song gained a lot of life by routing them to a stereo amp and cutting the gain way back.  I probably aim for a sound that's less heavy than most, but I also think even those people that want a really heavy sound would do themselves a favor by reducing the gain a bit.  I suppose it's a preference but I find you need a lot less gain in a band setting than you might use when playing by yourself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 05, 2014, 02:19:57 PM
Getting about time for a complete tear down and rewire of the synth rig again.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_23151_zps7ae0e0a5.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_23151_zps7ae0e0a5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 05, 2014, 03:42:51 PM
New riff. First one in weeks...


...an only one new. I was unable to create anything more than it. What is worse, I'm out for the most of the weekend, so it's highly possible that it must wait for the monday evening before I can start working on it again.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 06, 2014, 11:07:38 PM
The G-310 is just a Special with 2 more knobs and a different pick guard right?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 09, 2014, 05:13:07 PM
Fuck.

So after spending $500 I don't have in maintenance to my SVT it has developed a microphonic pre. Tried the 6c4 and the 12ax7. Neither is the culprit so must be a 12dw7 or microphonic tube socket.

Will fuck with it again tonight and hope for the best

Also finally tested my JCM800 after it cut out few weeks back.

Powered up but no sound. Checked the fuses. One blown. Replaced. Promptly blew again. Fuck. The power amp tubes still relatively new so wtf?!?

So as of now I have no functional gigging guitar amp, and am down to the SWR backup for bass. Can't afford to fix either amp.

Starting to think playing music full time was a really stupid idea because being broke all the time no matter how hard i am working is getting real old real quick.

//end blog
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 09, 2014, 05:16:35 PM
Take it back to the tech who worked on it. No accusations.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 09, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Recording some long, repetitive, droning dark ambient song(s). I like creating such music, even if no one listens to it :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 09, 2014, 06:24:49 PM
Quote from: Omlet on September 09, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Recording some long, repetitive, droning dark ambient song(s). I like creating such music, even if no one listens to it :D
cool man!


ya, thats how I feel about my original stuff too, maybe one day Ill be in a band where we like creating such original music, even if like only our family members and close friends show up to the show :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 09, 2014, 08:58:05 PM
Quote from: Danny G on September 09, 2014, 05:13:07 PM
Fuck.

So after spending $500 I don't have in maintenance to my SVT it has developed a microphonic pre. Tried the 6c4 and the 12ax7. Neither is the culprit so must be a 12dw7 or microphonic tube socket.

Will fuck with it again tonight and hope for the best

Also finally tested my JCM800 after it cut out few weeks back.

Powered up but no sound. Checked the fuses. One blown. Replaced. Promptly blew again. Fuck. The power amp tubes still relatively new so wtf?!?

So as of now I have no functional gigging guitar amp, and am down to the SWR backup for bass. Can't afford to fix either amp.

Starting to think playing music full time was a really stupid idea because being broke all the time no matter how hard i am working is getting real old real quick.

//end blog

do you ever ponder going SS?     
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on September 10, 2014, 06:45:46 AM
Quote from: Danny G on September 09, 2014, 05:13:07 PM
Fuck.

So after spending $500 I don't have in maintenance to my SVT it has developed a microphonic pre. Tried the 6c4 and the 12ax7. Neither is the culprit so must be a 12dw7 or microphonic tube socket.

Will fuck with it again tonight and hope for the best

Also finally tested my JCM800 after it cut out few weeks back.

Powered up but no sound. Checked the fuses. One blown. Replaced. Promptly blew again. Fuck. The power amp tubes still relatively new so wtf?!?

So as of now I have no functional gigging guitar amp, and am down to the SWR backup for bass. Can't afford to fix either amp.

Starting to think playing music full time was a really stupid idea because being broke all the time no matter how hard i am working is getting real old real quick.

//end blog
Get a Tech 21 Fly Rig 5 or Character series British for guitar and the VT Bass for bass cost you 200$ used maybe $350-$400 new one time fee never break and almost no one can tell the difference.  Get a cheapo Tube compressor to use before it and almost no one whatsoever will notice.  I honestly feel I am going to not use amps live for bass anymore because everywhere I've played just DIs it and/or doesn't let me turn up past 2 so I want more control over my live sound.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 10, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
monitors are not that great for bass DI only.  I have a peavey tour 450 I got used for $200 that has a DI like most solid state amps made in the last 10 years, I recommend going that route as well ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 10, 2014, 11:15:12 AM
I think that today I'll record another dark ambient track. I have some ideas.

Of course, it will be long and boring :D

Jem, are you still interested in some kind of musical collab? :)
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 10, 2014, 11:43:41 AM
Currently going solid state as the SWR is my only fully functioning amp now.

Yesterday's funk lifted after rehearsal with bassist + sax for Ocean of Stars (working in two new songs) followed by jamming with some other guys I recorded an album with last year who want to record another by the end of the month.


Re: SS/DI/amp-less

I'll def reconsider once my back goes, heh.

For what I need live in a rig, the SVT has beaten anything I've ever used, hands down.

In taking it back to the shop I'm feeling more bad for the tech than mad at him (not at all). He is the most name-recognized SVT tech in Austin. And he's an all around good dude with good people in his shop, and another friend did some of the work as well.

So yeah to wheel it back in there and be all "Hey guys! Um, yeah... So..."

Guess I should leave the Marshall there too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 10, 2014, 12:33:57 PM
Yes but you paid them right?  Ask them what they would do if tables were turned. Your amp still isn't right.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 10, 2014, 12:58:32 PM
also consider weaving solid state into your repertoire.  like using solid state for any practices and low paid gigs for less concerning audiences for instance ;)   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 10, 2014, 02:57:17 PM
^^^ Right there with ya. I've been using the SWR for vertain situations where the SVT is just a little too much and for small stages/portability



Re: paying the amp techs. Yes I did, although technically VISA paid the techs (and I will be repaying VISA for a very long time...)  :(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 10, 2014, 03:45:59 PM
I would pick up a part time daytime job cause I never have seen much $ through music and flakey musicians and flakey club owners, but thats me...  gives a chance to rest your frethand and avoid RSIs too.  no one is getting paid in most jobs in the economy these days it seems, but at least Austin seems to be hiring...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 11, 2014, 03:13:38 AM
Weighed my heads tonight because I was curious. Figured the Carvin was half the Fender and I was right.

Converted from combo x100b- 30
Dual Showman- 60

Might take the Carvin in sometime again, it gets really hot and that worries me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 11, 2014, 05:17:04 AM
And once again searching for band turned to shit. I don't know why I still bother...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 11, 2014, 10:06:25 AM
Wow that was quick.

Three hours after dropping off my amps they already had the Marshall done. I'm touched. It's a busy, very reputable shop so I was anticipating several days at least before they'd have a chance to even look at them.

But I'm friends either the tech and they know their shit, which is why I take my beloved amps there \m/,

But yeah. Marshall needed new power tubes and had some iffy solder joints (probably from me modding it heh)

$160-ish tho. Ouch.

But will be good at least having the Marshall for my busy weekend. Great dual-purpose amp for guitar and bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 11, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
yay! glad that worked out, hope things get better to where you want them dude. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 11, 2014, 12:09:50 PM
Quote from: Danny G on September 11, 2014, 10:06:25 AM

But yeah. Marshall needed new power tubes and had some iffy solder joints (probably from me modding it heh)


But will be good at least having the Marshall for my busy weekend. Great dual-purpose amp for guitar and bass.

Do you put that head directly on top of the cabinet when you're gigging?

If so, maybe not so good for aging solder joints. Put it at the side on a road case or at least put some material between the head & the cab—styrofoam works okay.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 11, 2014, 06:47:46 PM
I gathered some tracks from my hard disk, recorded one new tune and prepared cover artwork from the pictures my girlfriend took during our second mountains trip. Another EP for my ex-black metal project is ready to be released.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 11, 2014, 07:13:49 PM
When used as a guitar head it's on top of the cab. I don't play stupid loud hahaha. Def something to think about tho

When used as a bass amp I set it off the the side due to aforementioned rumbling. And looks cooler that way \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on September 11, 2014, 07:47:07 PM
played a set of improv music with synths, sampler, and my friend on guitar the other night at a local brewery. we jammed for almost 40 minutes straight. pretty fun. we pissed some people off (dudes were dicks anyway), scared some people (with volume) and won them over by the end of it.

it was fun, but I felt a little out of my element playing synth in that kind of high pressure situation. it was hard to hear, and hard to get confident because of that. I guess we did alright, but now i'm working on building some solid launchpad ideas. Something a little more than: start in E, now we're in A, then D, etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 12, 2014, 12:12:49 AM
http://rochester.craigslist.org/msg/4629254306.html (http://rochester.craigslist.org/msg/4629254306.html)

worth it??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 12, 2014, 08:47:22 AM
Depends what it sounds like. I'll assume at least 2 of the speakers are replacements.

I paid about that for my 4x12 with the 4 original speakers still intact. The cabinet is definitely solid & built out of thick birch plywood, though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on September 12, 2014, 10:30:56 AM
There was a Sunn 3x12 on the local Craig's for a long time that didn't move at $180. While I have no use for a 3x12, I did consider replacing the baffle by making a tall/staggered 4x12. But fate intervened and someone eventually bought it.

In regards to whether of not it's worth the $250, I'd be inclined to say that it might be if the Celestions are G12-65s  People are paying good money for those speakers these days. If they're Celestion Super 65s, I would pass, however.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 12, 2014, 11:19:33 AM
mortlock what is your head?

right cab with wrong head = no go

right cab with right head = go
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 12, 2014, 06:15:08 PM
i have an old peavey mark vi..i would gladly dump it for the right situation.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 12, 2014, 09:47:47 PM
ok a solid state peavey bass amp, meh

not sure what cab you currently have or if you play guitar or bass

that Sunn 312 is cool and is better than nothing, I think it is a good price

I would just concentrate on getting a better guitar amp if you play guitar and already have a guitar cab
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 12, 2014, 11:06:07 PM
im well aware the peavey head is what it is..having that cab cant hurt though..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 13, 2014, 12:43:55 AM
go for it dude!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 13, 2014, 11:36:35 AM
Get it. I like oddball gear
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 13, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
Get a Peavey 4x12 for $150 like I did. Less money, louder, same hassle to move.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 13, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
next question..i apologize for my ignorance in advance. [im the race car driver, not the mechanic]

can a 6 ohm cab work with my head..

the peavey is 400 watts at 2 ohms and 250 w at 4 ohms. i def plan on getting a better head at some point but not now..which brings me to another question..what do you guys recommend. i mean i know this shit has been discussed all over here but..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on September 13, 2014, 04:24:10 PM
i think it'd work, it would just be even fewer watts than 250.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 13, 2014, 05:25:02 PM
Saw Windhand last night for the first time. Powerful blasting of extremely heavy dark riffs. Very inspiring.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 15, 2014, 01:01:26 AM
Good news on the SVT:

Was a bum 12dw7 after all. The tech called me around 7pm (on a Sunday) and left a vm. Not even charging labor.

This guy is awesome
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2014, 02:19:11 AM
Does such a pedal exist that can be set to slightly delay the sound coming out of it? Not repeating delay, just a slight signal delay.

Also wondering if anyone can recommend any inexpensive pedals that can accurately produce a one octave down signal. Octave down only, no normal signal. Chords would be great but my understanding is that those types are quite expensive and tend to sound synthy so one note only is fine.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 15, 2014, 03:27:10 AM
a hi quality effect set to 100% wet completely cancels the original dry signal.
it seems a delay and sub harmonic synth module/pedal could do that.

maybe a vocal processor has the quality enough to do a really clean octave down if normal pedals or boss/line 6 rigs cant do it

maybe you can utilize the pass-thru latency of something as a ghetto 100% wet mini delay
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 15, 2014, 06:46:04 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2014, 02:19:11 AM
Does such a pedal exist that can be set to slightly delay the sound coming out of it? Not repeating delay, just a slight signal delay.

Isn't that what a chorus does? Some have a clean out/effected out.

Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2014, 02:19:11 AM
Also wondering if anyone can recommend any inexpensive pedals that can accurately produce a one octave down signal. Octave down only, no normal signal. Chords would be great but my understanding is that those types are quite expensive and tend to sound synthy so one note only is fine.

Boss OC-2 or 3? Electro Harmonix POG? HOG?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on September 15, 2014, 08:03:52 AM
As far as octave pedals go, look at the Danelectro Chili Dog. I've got one for dickaround purposes. Cheap and does not sound terrible.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on September 15, 2014, 03:00:41 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2014, 02:19:11 AM
Octave down only, no normal signal.
My bass player has one, it's an older Boss, will check on model number when I'm home.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 15, 2014, 08:22:58 PM
Listening now to a rough mix of all the instruments from the new Palace In Thunderland album.  Extremely pleased with the results, I feel like this was the album I was born to make.  We really took our time and did this the right way.  We got all the right gear and focused on really writing cohesive parts.  The performances and tones are just stellar.  I've never had the opportunity to make an album like this before, it really restores a lot of my faith in music after the half-ass way we made the Black Pyramid albums...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on September 15, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
I know you have bad feelings with the  BP stuff, but a lot of us love those albums.  Hopefully your new stuff will sound as good or better. To add some Jam room blog to that, a lot of great music has been made under less than optimal circumstances and some shit has been made under optimal conditions. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on September 15, 2014, 06:46:04 AM
Isn't that what a chorus does? Some have a clean out/effected out.

I'm not sure. I thought they did more of a flange meets reverb type thing but I've never owned or messed with one.

Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2014, 02:19:11 AM
Boss OC-2 or 3? Electro Harmonix POG? HOG?

Will look into these. I've heard the POG sounds weird and synthy.

Quote from: Jake on September 15, 2014, 08:03:52 AM
As far as octave pedals go, look at the Danelectro Chili Dog. I've got one for dickaround purposes. Cheap and does not sound terrible.

Cool. Will read reviews and watch videos.

Quote from: mutantcolors on September 15, 2014, 03:00:41 PM
My bass player has one, it's an older Boss, will check on model number when I'm home.

Thank you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2014, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: jibberish on September 15, 2014, 03:27:10 AM
a hi quality effect set to 100% wet completely cancels the original dry signal.
it seems a delay and sub harmonic synth module/pedal could do that.

maybe a vocal processor has the quality enough to do a really clean octave down if normal pedals or boss/line 6 rigs cant do it

maybe you can utilize the pass-thru latency of something as a ghetto 100% wet mini delay

Hmmm..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 15, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
is there any comprehensive resource out there that would list all tour dates of bands..im trying to find skinless' tour in 2002 w/ six feet under..
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
No Detroit dates.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 15, 2014, 11:14:24 PM
^jor Ellen?

^willb?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 16, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Quote from: The Shocker on September 15, 2014, 08:48:56 PM
I know you have bad feelings with the  BP stuff, but a lot of us love those albums.  Hopefully your new stuff will sound as good or better. To add some Jam room blog to that, a lot of great music has been made under less than optimal circumstances and some shit has been made under optimal conditions. 


I know a lot of people love the albums, and I can tend to be pretty down on them.  The fact of the matter was that they weren't that much fun to make, they were rushed, and I really feel like we half-assed some things rather than taking the time to really do them right.  I didn't always agree with the people working on those albums, I didn't always agree with the people playing on the albums, and much of the time this was never openly discussed because of personality clashes, let alone negotiated or rectified.  I realize that there are a lot of great things about those albums, and that they don't sound bad per say.  The sour taste is partly over the negative experiences, and partly that I know that those songs could have come out a lot better had we taken our time and done some things differently.

This Palace album, well, it's taken a long time to write and record.  We've worked through illness, injury, and personal differences - all it took was some time, patience, communication and understanding to get through the obstacles. 

I don't know if people will like this album as much, it's a lot more all over the place stylistically. The idea was to take a look at the bands that were really big influences in the 90's, when we were all just really getting into music and it was the most important thing in our lives. So you're going to hear the Sabbath, Kyuss, Fu Manchu and Monster Magnet influence, along with Pink Floyd, , Hawkwind, Led Zeppelin and other classic rock, but you'll also hear a lot of Hum and Smashing Pumpkins.  We were into Helmet, Soundgarden, Quicksand, Fugazi, Dinosaur Jr. - you're going to hear smatterings of that thrown in. It's not a "doom" or even "stoner" album in the classic sense. Although it's got some pretty heavy riffs and big, cool tones, it's much more focused on having a unique atmosphere.  We really tried to use the studio as an instrument in and of itself, while also not getting so elaborate that we can't recreate it live.

If people dig it, hey, that's awesome. I'm not going to say that it's better than anything I did with Black Pyramid.  I'm just saying that the experience has been far more rewarding for me personally, and I've felt a lot more freedom for genuine expression.  This is the kind of album I've always wanted to make.  I can't speak for the rest of the band, though I'd say that the general vibe is that everyone involved is really feeling it.


The EH POG definitely sounds weird and synth-y.  We used a POG for a couple songs on this album, and it sounds remarkably like an organ.  It does track really well, even with chords.  We used a couple other odd octave pedals as well, if you want details check with dk419, he's got some cool ones.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2014, 03:21:55 AM
I'm looking forward to hearing the Palace album and thanks for the POG tip. Reading that it tracks chords well and sounds good with a lot of fuzz/distortion but the idea that a unit that only picked up the lowest/root note would probably be a better idea popped into my head tonight. Will keep researching.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Shocker on September 16, 2014, 11:34:00 AM
Thanks Andy.  I love 10 of the 14 bands you mentioned, so I am really interested to hear the new album.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 16, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
that Black pyramid II album is killer!  looking forward to the upcoming Palace in Thunderland album.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 16, 2014, 12:29:15 PM
Ill probably listen to Palace in Thunderdome
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on September 16, 2014, 12:45:31 PM
Two men entahhh, one man leave!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 16, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
Fuck.

I know that my music was posted on several blogs, one Polish file repository site and even shared via torrent. And I have nothing against it, in fact it shows me that some people likes my shit. However, today I got really, really pissed off.

I stumbled upon the blog with download link for my newest EP and realized that - in addition to music, that site was full of many kinds of extremist, right-wing and nationalism-related bullshit.

Fuck.

I mailed that prick with file / link removal request, I hope that he will do it. I fucking hate these "white pride" shitbags and I fucking hate politics of (almost) any kind.

For obvious reasons - I will not post here a link to that shitty blog.

I posted similar disclaimer on my project's FB page and I hope that people will repost it.

Fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 16, 2014, 07:36:28 PM
Quote from: Omlet on September 16, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
Fuck.

I know that my music was posted on several blogs, one Polish file repository site and even shared via torrent. And I have nothing against it, in fact it shows me that some people likes my shit. However, today I got really, really pissed off.

I stumbled upon the blog with download link for my newest EP and realized that - in addition to music, that site was full of many kinds of extremist, right-wing and nationalism-related bullshit.

Fuck.

I mailed that prick with file / link removal request, I hope that he will do it. I fucking hate these "white pride" shitbags and I fucking hate politics of (almost) any kind.

For obvious reasons - I will not post here a link to that shitty blog.

I posted similar disclaimer on my project's FB page and I hope that people will repost it.

Fuck.


Yeah, I hear you.  That really is not cool at all, and I hope you get it taken down.  Fucking people these days...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on September 16, 2014, 08:01:37 PM
Goddamn, firing people from your band is like breaking up with someone without the prospect of awesome breakup sex.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on September 16, 2014, 08:29:40 PM
I feel fortunate that my last band break up went well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 16, 2014, 08:39:44 PM
$25 for a 5 watt practice amp, USB interface and portable recording device:

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=115&cp_id=11501&cs_id=1150102&p_id=611700&seq=1&format=2&cl=res&utm_source=140916_staffpicks&utm_medium=email&utm_content=611700&utm_campaign=140916_q3_staffpicks (http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=115&cp_id=11501&cs_id=1150102&p_id=611700&seq=1&format=2&cl=res&utm_source=140916_staffpicks&utm_medium=email&utm_content=611700&utm_campaign=140916_q3_staffpicks)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 16, 2014, 09:16:11 PM
you need to borrow $25 or what?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 16, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
yo omlet, some dude in Poland just bought one of my bands tapes. I wonder if you know him. haha. I know Poland is a big place but you never know..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 17, 2014, 02:13:15 AM
Quote from: jibberish on September 16, 2014, 09:16:11 PM
you need to borrow $25 or what?

Probably belongs in Hot Deals...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 17, 2014, 02:43:25 AM
Quote from: mortlock on September 16, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
yo omlet, some dude in Poland just bought one of my bands tapes. I wonder if you know him. haha. I know Poland is a big place but you never know..

PM me his name there's 1:39000000 chance that i know him lol
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 17, 2014, 02:59:16 AM
heh


lumpy, just pulling your pigtails 8D


I wanted to mention to dinger about bp being a decent Sabbath worship and let it be for what it was.  the fans have no awareness of any of the negative behind the scenes.
you shouldn't broadcast the sense that we should hate that album because of surrounding situations. that makes for a really weird feeling heh. you rock, so you cant erase all the rocking out you have layed upon us all over time. 

no one is telling you to go back that I sense. moving forward towards bigger and better is always a good thing, but you should value the value in your stepping stone projects and forget the horseshit circumstances attached. I still like my bp album btw.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 17, 2014, 05:35:48 AM
Okay, he removed links to my music. Now I feel better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 17, 2014, 09:15:41 AM
Quote from: jibberish on September 17, 2014, 02:59:16 AM
heh


lumpy, just pulling your pigtails 8D


I wanted to mention to dinger about bp being a decent Sabbath worship and let it be for what it was.  the fans have no awareness of any of the negative behind the scenes.
you shouldn't broadcast the sense that we should hate that album because of surrounding situations. that makes for a really weird feeling heh. you rock, so you cant erase all the rocking out you have layed upon us all over time. 

no one is telling you to go back that I sense. moving forward towards bigger and better is always a good thing, but you should value the value in your stepping stone projects and forget the horseshit circumstances attached. I still like my bp album btw.

I don't think that people should hate the albums man.  I try to let them be for what they are, though it's difficult for me because I wrote all the lyrics and 90% of the songs.  Despite peoples' favorable reactions to those songs, I know that I for one am never going to hear a proper recording of these songs the way they were intended to sound and be played.  It reminds me of how some of my childhood friends died young, and I would think about how they never would reach their full potential.  Obviously there's a big disconnect between the ideal/intent and the actual.  My friends are dead; there was no more potential once they ceased to live, despite the fantasies my mind cooks up about their imaginary futures.  The songs are recorded and released; there will never be better versions despite what I still hear reverberating in my head when I wrote them.

The negative behind the scenes shit?  Well, the fans are prithee to much of it, and I think that's a good thing.  Too much mythology and hero worship in music.  I most regret all the dishonesty and deceit surrounding the band, so telling the truth about it is very liberating for me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on September 17, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on September 17, 2014, 09:15:41 AM

The negative behind the scenes shit?  Well, the fans are prithee to much of it...


They're what to it? Prithee prithee pain cave.  ;)

(This might be a repeat blawggie blogpost)  I quit playing in bands temporarily in February, and it sucks/is amusing that I seemingly lost all my local musician  "scene friends" (lol) overnight. I just needed a break after being in two bands minimum (four bands at one point) since mid-2006. I do miss it terribly now, of course, and hope to be back at the eardrum-liver destruction by years' end....

....if I can get anyone to answer my calls  :P
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 17, 2014, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on September 17, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on September 17, 2014, 09:15:41 AM

The negative behind the scenes shit?  Well, the fans are prithee to much of it...


They're what to it? Prithee prithee pain cave.  ;)

(This might be a repeat blawggie blogpost)  I quit playing in bands temporarily in February, and it sucks/is amusing that I seemingly lost all my local musician  "scene friends" (lol) overnight. I just needed a break after being in two bands minimum (four bands at one point) since mid-2006. I do miss it terribly now, of course, and hope to be back at the eardrum-liver destruction by years' end....

....if I can get anyone to answer my calls  :P

I like to misuse the word "prithee" because it seems really off-putting to people.

But this is the jam room blog thread, so that is neither near nor their.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 17, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
to parrotphrase  "neither near nor their"

heh

(stole that from true blood. they had that goober brother slaughtering all kinds of sayings a'la archie bunker)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on September 17, 2014, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on September 17, 2014, 01:23:08 PM

I like to misuse the word "prithee" because it seems really off-putting to people.


That peaks my interests !

"Why do you always sell your gear?" I've been axed many times, and the answer seems obvious: Getting new (to me) stuff is awesome !
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on September 17, 2014, 03:39:24 PM
I think you mean ODVIOUS duh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 17, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
And once again my plan turned to shit...

Moments ago I was informed that fucking prick (the client) will be unable to pay me this week. And - as the money comes thru international transfer - probably I will not receive it before next Tuesday (and still it's optimistic version).

Bass auction ends on Sunday so, fuck me. I must forget about it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 17, 2014, 05:16:58 PM
Gibson's baritone. No inlays and only available in white. Designed not to sell.


(http://images.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/USA/SG-Baritone/Gallery-Images/SGBHAWCH1-Finish.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 17, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
Woah. 75 songs published on Youtube...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 18, 2014, 07:45:17 PM
Had a huge DUH moment few nights ago at a rehearsal.

Was using the JCM800 as a bass amp. I set it off to the side so as not rumbling on top of the cab and looks cooler anyway.

Realized that (a) I've been setting it so the top vents are blocked by the cab (did it that way as the cord input was on top to keep me from stepping on it) and (b) I have it against the cab so it's still getting rumbled.

So I turned it around and put a gap between it and the cab. This also allows easier access to speaker jack and power plug.

Well shit. Maybe these tubes will last longer now haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 18, 2014, 08:47:13 PM
Especially if you cut a vent in the side of the head box. :P  V4 might run a little hotter than the rest.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 18, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
Quote from: RAGER on September 18, 2014, 08:47:13 PM
Especially if you cut a vent in the side of the head box. :P  V4 might run a little hotter than the rest.

Yup.  V-4's run hot.  I've got two of them, I know all too well...


If you have trouble with things running way too hot, it's pretty easy to install a computer fan.  One of my V-4's has one, though I don't use it as much since I had our tech yank the reverb.  Those extra tubes for the reverb really crank a lot of heat...

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 19, 2014, 02:52:41 AM
taking a break from practicing...sit down have a puff, check in on srl com...think of crazy shit


I wonder if anyone has played with a wireless mic in a little box that spins around for a ghetto leslie sound. something you could set in front of speakers like a regular mic


ordered a beatstep controller. we will soon see if I can get all my old synths to get their bleep bloop on.

back to practice......
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 19, 2014, 03:00:20 AM
Top-quality mic I used yesterday to record some background noise (thru laptop speakers, from the internet):

(http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp299/Omletofon/Mobile%20Uploads/WP_20140918_001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 19, 2014, 03:36:07 AM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on September 18, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
Those extra tubes for the reverb really crank a lot of heat...

I've never thought of that. Both of my heads have spring reverbs. I'll see if my Carvin stays cooler with the reverb off.




In only somewhat related news, 27" baritone with somewhat floppy strings in F# + FZ-2 clone + guitar rig + bass rig = super fun, destroys, 2 piece instrumental needs to happen. The riff and nothing but the riff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 19, 2014, 04:09:40 AM
I was thinking more about your massive sound quest.  a while back I split the pups on my LP studio and completely eliminated the selector switch(about 1/2 the wiring in there) and 2 things happened.
1) I use the neck pup for recording when I want the nice rich sound. it is very clean and quiet and rich.
2) I can feed each pup to something different like on that ehg organ box. so dicking around, I have already fed one pup into the sub bass effect on the shit mixer. nasty but cool.
what fucks the sub synth up is chords and complex shit.

I thought of 2 things to deal with that.

1) do like local H does and install a bass pup for 2 strings of sub synth, but I am not going to do that to my LP
2) so then I was pondering how to put metal over the upper strings portion of the pup to kill all but the low 2 strings.

ok...more practice...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 19, 2014, 04:55:02 AM
Interesting stuff there. A local guy here does a one man surfy rock thing, plays drums with his feet while playing guitar and singing and has a bass pup modded into his guitar. Sounds pretty good.

The ultimate thing right now would be an octave down pedal that could give me single root notes even if I'm playing chords as F#/B string power chords tracked could be a complete mess that low. Some of the mono pedals might actually do that but I'm not sure. F# is so close to bass range though that I really wouldn't need any lower notes than that. Could use a pedal only for single string parts. Sometimes it's good to be limited. Guitar Center has that 30 day return period on used gear, I might get lucky and find something there to experiment with.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on September 19, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
Mate modded a strat for a country singer by punching out the poles of the top 4 strings on the neck pickup to feed the bass side of her setup from just the bottom two.

I run separate outputs from my pickups, to different rigs. Lots of tricks can be done with it.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on September 19, 2014, 11:41:37 AM
I used an ABY split to two rigs with two pedal chains. EHX POG is your girl, LS
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 19, 2014, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on September 19, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
Mate modded a strat for a country singer by punching out the poles of the top 4 strings on the neck pickup to feed the bass side of her setup from just the bottom two.

I run separate outputs from my pickups, to different rigs. Lots of tricks can be done with it.
nice.

do you know of any non-destructive way to shut off poles of a pickup or keep the string vibes out?

we need a metal string with a 2 inch nylon insert so it is ignored by one pickup haha., or a non-ferrous metal section. boy that sounds expensive.....

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Post by: VOLVO))) on September 19, 2014, 12:49:10 PM
Buy some cheapies and do the damage.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 19, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
I've recorded two drone/doom tracks, this time with more industrial/dark ambient/noise shit. Maybe I'll post them here once I polish them up (unless I realize that they are total garbage and just throw them away).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 19, 2014, 08:40:30 PM
I pulled the trigger. I'm having a custom Grendel Drone Commander built for me. 

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 19, 2014, 09:28:45 PM
are you getting that one with the awesome skull feet?   that's the one I would want.

B&H video has microbrutes for $259 with some extras thrown in. the time has come....


is there some way to bury a clock synch into a soundcloud thread hahaha, so we could do pile-on sequencer projects and everyone's track would lock on in time

my nephew and his space van project is getting into the lighting.  I got him going on a lightshow that changes colors based upon engine rpm. so now he has arduino, tri color led's
and me: engineer and programmer extraordinaire on tap to get through the bullshit and explain things to him. he is no dummy. he is a hotshot IT guy and hacks as a hobby, so yeah. he and I can cook up heinous shit.   anyway, I told him that the square wave from the tach output could be scaled and its impedance massaged and I taught him how to design voltage clamp circuits to protect inputs so that we can feed computers and A SYNTH FILTER. the synth output then can get split and part gets digitized and back into the computer for organic synth based light show. the audio can also go to the stereo or stealth mega PA  (I have a 1200watt RMS multichannel tri-amped car stereo that is going into that fucking van and he is putting a couple of god's own inverters in the van for ac shmoltz)

also looking into this lumiLor paint shit. check it out. google LumiLor and be prepared to say "wow"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on September 20, 2014, 01:56:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 19, 2014, 04:55:02 AM
Interesting stuff there. A local guy here does a one man surfy rock thing, plays drums with his feet while playing guitar and singing and has a bass pup modded into his guitar. Sounds pretty good.

The ultimate thing right now would be an octave down pedal that could give me single root notes even if I'm playing chords as F#/B string power chords tracked could be a complete mess that low. Some of the mono pedals might actually do that but I'm not sure. F# is so close to bass range though that I really wouldn't need any lower notes than that. Could use a pedal only for single string parts. Sometimes it's good to be limited. Guitar Center has that 30 day return period on used gear, I might get lucky and find something there to experiment with.

Boss OC-3 has an octave down only output and a knob that sets the frequency that the effect comes in below. I haven't tried it myself but easy to buy-try-return Boss stuff from the big box stores.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 20, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
I think I finished the two droning tracks. I think I'll listen to them during walk before uploading them, just to be sure they are OK.

Also, I killed my Perfect Beauty project. Or, rather changed it into something slightly different. To be honest, I got sick by its name :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 20, 2014, 09:42:33 AM
You should totally get a drummer omlet, if I were you I'd strive for that!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 20, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
It will be very hard here :(

Jem, do you still want to collaborate on some track(s)? :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 20, 2014, 03:36:26 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10479888_286377784899103_2256043276170641804_o.jpg)

My buds https://www.facebook.com/SerpentLung last night, https://www.facebook.com/astralpros did the old school oil. He also did the Jex Thoth set at Days of the Doomed this year.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 20, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
I would definitely be up for it but I'm just too busy at the moment, iv lost loads of album writing time due to personal shit and now feel like I'm really behind, I don't want to leave it so long between albums and time passes so quickly, also got tonnes of practising to do with so many gigs coming up!! I would really like to put some eery guitar leads over your ambient stuff tho I think it'd sound awesome! Keep in touch :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 20, 2014, 04:49:09 PM
No problem :) Just drop me PM when you find some spare time :)
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Post by: VOLVO))) on September 20, 2014, 06:23:12 PM
Ill collaborate, and I have free time...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 20, 2014, 06:38:03 PM
Wow! I'll PM you in the morning so it's rather late here and I'm fucking sleepy...

But it's great.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 20, 2014, 06:52:06 PM
:)

Guys I need your opinion, iv read through too many forums with mixed thoughts over this, the ole "do bass heads wreck guitar cabs" thing. I mean a 450w solid state bass head full volume and gain with the red light clipping constantly. I'm feeling a little pressure to be using guitar cabs (as opposed to my bass cabs) that are provided sometimes especially at fests where obviously they want to keep set up times swift, we're also having to hire a van especially just to bring my cabs sometimes, obviously I'd prefer to use my own, I like how they sound, but I also always use my own out of respect for other peoples gear. It'd help to know the truth of the matter...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 20, 2014, 07:42:59 PM
The amp head doesn't matter so much. "Power is power", a bass head might be voiced slightly differently but should not harm anything if you are using a guitar (and no sub-octave type pedals). It's the guitar speakers that can be damaged by low frequencies (from a bass guitar) at high volumes.

You also do need to mind power ratings, and try to have them reasonably match. A cranked 450 watt amp head can indeed blow a speaker cab rated for (lets say) 100 or 200 watts, whether the head says "bass" or "guitar" on the front. It's a mismatch. It's not guaranteed to blow speakers but it's absolutely a high risk.

At festivals, can you request a bass cabinet for yourself?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on September 20, 2014, 08:18:58 PM
Playing bass into guitar cabs is fine if you don't expect it to sound like bass, and accept its gonna sound like guitar. Its the trying to eq the bass the cab can't do that screws things. Speakers warn about blowing by farting out loads. Cut rthe bass and crank the mids to hear yourself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 21, 2014, 01:01:04 AM
punch holes in the cones before the show so you can just relax through the whole thing. if the cabs sound blown at the get go , who's gonna notice if they really do blow later on. simple 8D [this works best if it isn't your cab btw]

/geezerfactor
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 21, 2014, 06:01:43 AM
Bass or guitar head, if I hear guitar speakers farting or pulsating in weird ways I turn the lows down to reduce the chances of blowouts and because it sounds too weird and crazy. With that in mind if you are always playing through two 4x12s I think you should be fine as long as they aren't loaded with old style 25/30 watters. For guitar>dirt pedal>clean channel I now prefer using loud 100 watt tube guitar heads when going into guitar cabs. Even the 'clean all the way up' amps will breakup using low tunings but if you can work that into your tone I feel like you aren't heating your speakers up as much and there is the added tube richness, depth, and warmth.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on September 21, 2014, 09:32:20 AM
I just play high gain amps at this point with no dirt pedals. Roll the volume down for cleaner.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on September 21, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
Not even your SCOD?
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Post by: VOLVO))) on September 21, 2014, 11:40:09 AM
I use it for bass, now. I bought a Peavey ultra plus, and a fender dual showman from the 80s. Between those two, no need for pedals really. They both clean up really nicely with the tele, too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 21, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
Fuuuuuuuck!  I am so computer stupid.  I can't figure out how to do the firmware update for my new Moog.  DAMMMIT!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 21, 2014, 04:07:49 PM
I've set up some Crown of Twilight tshirts on spradshirt. Too bad that I can't reduce the number of colors to one (black). Also, they are bit overpriced.

http://deadearth.spreadshirt.co.uk/

Probably I will take one for myself and no one will be interested, even my friends :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 02:54:23 AM
that t shirt place is cool. the concept is cool. fabric inkjet printers are killer. it just needs a graphics file.

edit: rager, i'm sure you called someone by now.  probably use system exclusive MIDI transfer.that's how you do data dumps or upload new settings from a PC editor w/e. every user manual has the sys ex settings and definitions somewhere in the back. it is confusing as fuck. if you haven't called anyone, just call someone.   5 minute explaindo trumps 2 weeks of solo wtf
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 22, 2014, 01:05:10 PM
I'm having no problems whatsoever with my tone etc with my own cabs, my question is should I be blasting my bass head through other peoples guitar cabs as I'd rather not based on some peoples opinions on it not being great for the cabs, but if anyone can confirm that it's definitely ok then maybe I wouldn't worry about it anymore! Lumpy so far fests we've played only ever have one bass cab to offer seeing as that's all most bands need, the next fest has sent a list with no end of amazing orange gear on offer including heads, I'm arguing with myself about just sucking it up and leaving the comfort zone of using my own stuff, I know it'd probably sound awesome but I don't like change... ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 01:18:57 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on September 22, 2014, 01:05:10 PM
I'm having no problems whatsoever with my tone etc with my own cabs, my question is should I be blasting my bass head through other peoples guitar cabs as I'd rather not based on some peoples opinions on it not being great for the cabs, but if anyone can confirm that it's definitely ok then maybe I wouldn't worry about it anymore! Lumpy so far fests we've played only ever have one bass cab to offer seeing as that's all most bands need, the next fest has sent a list with no end of amazing orange gear on offer including heads, I'm arguing with myself about just sucking it up and leaving the comfort zone of using my own stuff, I know it'd probably sound awesome but I don't like change... ;)

an amp is an amp is an amp. it takes low level audio signal and adds power.

various amps are tuned or "toned" or somehow tweaked for more specific uses, like a bass amp maybe with a really fine low end eq and darker tone colorings etc.
none of this matters to the speakers

what matters to the speakers is that you put the correct frequencies through them if you are worried about hurting them

are you playing a bass through your bass amp into guitar speakers? this is asking for trouble. guitar 12" speakers are designed for high volume in a band of more middle frequencies. the design is light weight, smaller coil and magnet assembly to reduce mass, and most importantly : reduced cone excursion because the frequencies are too quick to travel a long way before returning so it isn't needed.
well bass is low freq. it takes longer to unfold bass notes, so the cone has to travel further to eat up the time it takes to unfold that bass frequency.  very easy to go beyond the limitations of that oversized midrange driver and enter "foxen's inferno"

DO NOT PUT BASS FREQUENCIES INTO GUITAR CABS WITH ANY AMP

If you are playing guitar, you are in the frequency zone those speakers are made for. the bass amp amplifies what you put into it and if that is only guiter, there is no difference besides tone between that and a dedicated guitar head.

now it is merely a matter of not globally overpowering the speakers. if you have a total 200w cab and you have a nice 1000w bass head, heh..yeah..you better watch it, but if you have a 200w head, should be good to go and basically safe as a 200w guitar amp
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 01:34:05 PM
paging dr rager dr fine dr rager.

please to give us a sample of big sky country already. you have owned it for 7 or 8 hours now, hahaha

if you would be so kind, hit me up with that dark choir patch on some wild shit. the one that was at 7:03 in that demo you linked
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 22, 2014, 02:15:50 PM
I tried to meet with two different dudes to play some stoner/sludge etc. And - of course - it failed.

I'm unable to find anyone to play with for five fucking years.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 22, 2014, 02:31:35 PM
Thanks jibbs, so guitar through bass head through guitar cabs is ok, so long as the wattage is compatible obviously, and even if the guitar is downtuned to A, lows/mids pushed on the head, red light clipping, this is still definitely probably ok?

Omlet keep trying, why does it not work out? John and I spent a few years unable to find the right drummer, we tried out loads of people, it was really disheartening often, don't give up hope (that is if you do want someone)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
I don't see any dealbreaker here.   the deeper the bass the worse the problem. like lumpy was saying up above in his post which I tried to restate in different words, a sub octave pedal is what would be asking for trouble. that goes low. 

the clip light is telling you that you are getting all the power out you can, so it should be easier to just say "i will max this amp. is the cab rated for as much or hopefully a good fraction more power than my amp's full rating?" 

also note if your amp has different wattages into different impedance loads listed. It might be 150W into 8 ohms and 300 into 4 ohms or something different like that. so match cab and amp power with the correct impedance values. you probably never want to run  SS amps into 2 ohms hard unless they state that is ok. that's a ridiculous amount of current and can more easily melt the outputs.(like maybe series 2 4 ohm cabs vs parallel so you run 8ohms vs 2ohms)

hth, I think you will be fine just watching those couple things for compatability. anything beyond that I will have to defer to the real road warriors that have seen real shit onstage...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 22, 2014, 04:35:01 PM
Even awesome backline gear can sound horrible.

I once tried a house SVT-VR and matching cab during a soundcheck and just wound up using my own full rig as the SVT-VR sounded inexplicably horrific even through my own cabinet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 22, 2014, 05:30:39 PM
I have no fucking idea why it fails over and over. Funny thing is that 90% of all attempts fails even before the first jam!
Maybe I'm too fucked in the head with my attitude :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on September 22, 2014, 06:11:37 PM
Quote from: Omlet on September 22, 2014, 05:30:39 PM
I have no fucking idea why it fails over and over. Funny thing is that 90% of all attempts fails even before the first jam!
Maybe I'm too fucked in the head with my attitude :D

I have a similar problem, to the point that it feels like a farce or someone is playing a joke on me sometimes. I've had so many people shower me with praise over songs/recordings, gear or musical taste when jamming for the first time, then never call me back or go so far as to commit to starting a full band and rent a practice space together, then hear nothing from them ever again or just get a brief email telling me it turns out they can't do a band. A couple people removed from the situation have offered to me that they think I'm intimidating musically, but I don't feel like I am at all. If anything I feel like I have moderate musical skills and I'm just very organized in my goals, because I don't want to waste time. I want maximum result for minimum effort, because I don't have time to hang out all day on a Saturday or go out every week night. The cynical part of my brain thinks maybe most people who are over 30 and not trying to be famous playing music just want to get high/drunk and mess around playing covers for an hour a month and that's not at all where I am. I may have finally got a minimal power trio together to play original songs, so we'll see. I keep my expectations very low now, when it comes to attempting to form new bands.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 22, 2014, 11:37:56 PM
c'mon, cheer up DOOMster buddies!!!

heh

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4322519552/h24B6006D/)

really, just gotta be honest with yourself and others.  if your musical vision is not selling, then pursue it by other means and mediums if you must.

if your vision is to play live music, sometimes it is best to be open minded and cast a big wide net so that you can be in a band and start networking from there.  cover bands are good to network from since you can meet many people and other musicians and convert and recruit them to your musical vision.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 22, 2014, 11:45:16 PM
we have arrived.. haha
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unholy_Semen/3540385850 (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Unholy_Semen/3540385850)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 23, 2014, 12:02:00 AM
^^awesome
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Post by: jibberish on September 23, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
can I have your autograph mortay? gz.

..stunk up general pretty good...better pipe down and get to practicing...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 23, 2014, 02:56:20 AM
All people here want to play in yet another shitty thrash or death metal band that no one will listen to. Almost zero interest in stoner, not even mentioning sludge - there are zero sludge doom bands in Poland :D

I think I must flee from here because of music  :D

@Mortlock - yeah I  noticed it yesterday. Congrats!
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Post by: JemDooM on September 23, 2014, 03:13:23 AM
Thanks for the advice, you guys are awesome x
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 23, 2014, 12:57:47 PM
Quote from: Omlet on September 23, 2014, 02:56:20 AM
All people here want to play in yet another shitty thrash or death metal band that no one will listen to. Almost zero interest in stoner, not even mentioning sludge - there are zero sludge doom bands in Poland :D

I think I must flee from here because of music  :D

@Mortlock - yeah I  noticed it yesterday. Congrats!

Any clean vocal/trad leaning doom metal bands there?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 23, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
I guess that no more than five bands in whole country. But it's just a guess. I never found one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 23, 2014, 02:51:23 PM
try this- http://www.metal-archives.com/lists/doom

then sort by country
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 23, 2014, 03:11:05 PM
Thanks!

Damn, it seems that I'm running out of ideas for music... I suck at playing guitar so my ability is limited. And now I'm stuck at the moment when lack of skill doesn't allow me to create the song, simply because I don't know how to play.

Damn, I must stop whining and try to figure something out.

Or just quit playing :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on September 23, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
Just keep going man, you have something good there, and if you do want bandmates keep trying, just because a bunch don't work out it doesn't mean the next won't, or the one after that, read some Quorthon interviews, his people never worked out either but he never gave up...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 23, 2014, 04:59:38 PM
ya dude keep at it! If you are concerned about your skillset then ya practice.  I do fretlight guitar practice and like it. 



If you are liking your art and do not think it needs additional skill, then keep pursuing it. I moved really far to get to Austin TX, I may move again. maybe work on things you can do solo without a band, like mixing.  the sludgy NU-Metal band Korn started in Bakersfield, and I have been there and would never want to start a band there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 23, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
I'm just running out of ideas for riffs for my black metal project :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 23, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
Another vote here for keep at it. I basically still suck at guitar but have more recently become good enough to play and write riffs and songs that please me greatly.

Running out of ideas for riffs is a sure sign that you need to expand your horizons. Try your hand at different styles, different genres even. I was in a rut 6-7 years ago but playing along with an Angel Witch album one day started a chain of events that got me out of the blues box which was just what I needed at the time.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on September 24, 2014, 12:00:59 AM
Did vocals for the first time, and played bass at the same time... Got really good response. Doing vocals is scary.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 24, 2014, 02:28:53 AM
Maybe I should play some John Lee Hooker tunes... It already helped me once :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 24, 2014, 04:22:04 AM
baritone finger, I don't use the tips for chords like I should
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/mazeofliquidsmoke/photo-2_zpsa54c5382.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 24, 2014, 04:30:46 AM
New arrangement, removed the vocal stuff as I'm pretty sure Orogen isn't going to play live anymore as a 3 piece with vocals. Haven't used my wah in years.

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/mazeofliquidsmoke/46672885-2361-4b87-b57d-7f25aff101fd_zpsb9dafd33.jpg?t=1411547321)
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Post by: jibberish on September 24, 2014, 05:28:46 AM
heh, those are some funky callouses

sunno, singing and playing forced me up a notch in skill levels across the board. took a while to sort it out, but that was huge for me. I am very glad I took that on. it's also a new dimension of fun( after the scary fades away). besides then you can learn silly tunes and make the ladies laugh at the bonfire,

I think I might make a video of my 2 minute shoulder/spine stretch deal that I do every day. 


my 3 old synths are definitely going to be useful and remain a force in my wall of sound quest. the beatstep controller rocks the daisy chain fine, plus using only midi thru, I can solo on the DX-7 like that nice doogie howser electric piano that cuts nice, and not play the next module in the chain.
heh, the bleep bloop background with some heavy organ +vocals w/e crap and some sad piano solo jam could definitely keep some old folks amused. do it all in minor key.
as lame as this shit behringer mixer is, the reverb still makes a huge improvement over dry. I can only imagine the big sky in its place.   you probably could make someone blowing lunch sound heavenly with that thing.

didn't get much guitar practice in tonight, just lots of cable plugging practice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 24, 2014, 07:06:27 AM
I think that my newest CoT production may be entirely without any drums (or rather drum machine), just to make it even more cold and hard to bear :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 24, 2014, 10:47:09 AM
Omlet, you should see if people in other countries are willing to collaborate with you, at least for recording.  That could be really cool.  You could trade some demo riffs, work on ideas together, and then send recorded tracks back and forth to work on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 24, 2014, 11:45:51 AM
Already found one person ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 24, 2014, 01:00:47 PM
Man do I love my new reverb pedal

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_23371_zps6b902afb.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_23371_zps6b902afb.jpg.html)

Tore apart and rearranged my jam room.  Much better now.  More compartmenalized and easy to get to stuff.  What a fucking chore though.  Didn't get as much playing time in as I like.  I'll try and get some sounds up withy my Big Sky  a little later.  Going in late today.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_23411_zpscf195707.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_23411_zpscf195707.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 24, 2014, 01:32:22 PM
^ shit man, I always knew you were synth serious, though I never realized that you were THIS synth serious.

That's impressive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 24, 2014, 02:07:31 PM
yeah wiring. lots of wiring..., I was just bitching about wiring and I was only dicking around with one thing and some modules.

that is a really nice stable of horses you have collected.

interesting you posted that video in the synth thread(edit. or wherever that was). I already suggested that we fuck around with the tach signal from my nephew's supervan project engine(square wave) through the S-P filter in a microbrute when I get one.   we are already going to do some animated LED trickery WRT the rpm's, so I suggested we experiment with some audio trickery.
tach puts 4 pulses per rev. so basically from idle to redline is 60hz to like 2500hz.   can use pulse dividers to do LFO shit. can use leading edges to trigger stuff..sky is the limit, but it could be crazy organic and piped through a big soundsystem heh. (the van has custom automatic gullwing doors and can drop to the ground hydraulically. entire custom front sub frame. this will be such a sick vehicle)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 24, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
DO you get better tone with Miller High Life over, say, PBR tallboys?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 24, 2014, 02:22:12 PM
Yes. There's something about tilting that bottle back instead of a can.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 24, 2014, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: jibberish on September 24, 2014, 05:28:46 AM
sunno, singing and playing forced me up a notch in skill levels across the board. took a while to sort it out, but that was huge for me. I am very glad I took that on. it's also a new dimension of fun( after the scary fades away). besides then you can learn silly tunes and make the ladies laugh at the bonfire

It's a process, it's hard, I worked up a few notches and want to continue it on recordings but I just don't want to do it live anymore.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 24, 2014, 02:34:01 PM
RAGER is in serious GAS mode. Not hating, have fun!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 24, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
Drone Commander is being built right now.  Should get it in a couple weeks.  I'm gearing up for winter time fun.

I probably have some stuff I should sell off.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 24, 2014, 03:27:41 PM
You can sell your VW sign to Juan11 ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 24, 2014, 03:38:15 PM
sell those xmas lights and get some wicked colors instead..and a lava lamp. someone get this man down to Spencer's STAT
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 24, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
He can pick up some anal beads and a shirt that says "bassists do it better"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 24, 2014, 04:03:46 PM
Holy shit, VW barstool too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 24, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
Used to be hot and heavy in the vintage VW scene.  Not so much anymore.  Still have one I'll prolly sell soon.  Didn't know what else to do with the sign or the stool since I don;t have much of a shop anymore.  That's a totally unlicensed VW sign.  Breakin the law.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 24, 2014, 06:27:36 PM
Posted a question about band / ppl to play with on local FB group. I saw that there are peeps potentially interested in playing stoner/doom, so maybe I'll be lucky this time...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 25, 2014, 01:35:07 AM
jammed on keyboard and guitar to various bleep bloop patterns from the beatstep until I couldn't really jam no mo. that thing is slick as hell


so I threw a couple cushions down on the carpet and crashed for an hour because I wanted to get right back to playing with toys, and a wolf spider munched my leg. I hate that shit.
takes weeks for those bites to go away and they itch like a mutha.  I found him later sneaking around my table...shit haha, a little ghost spider just did a mission impossible right in front of my monitor right now as I was typing. fuck. he's dead.  I just chloroxed last week........paging mr chlorox, the spiders are bum rushing us.

it's a jungle out there in here. fucking spiders

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edit: stumbling through pedal videos and this one came up.    the pharaoh supreme is a stunning bass effect. ear porno that I hadn't seen before. heh yeah.



editz: cool, look what was in the sidebar on youtube, some AKIII : perfect!

now listen to this after that bass fuzz demo. \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 25, 2014, 07:53:32 AM
Quote from: Omlet on September 24, 2014, 06:27:36 PM
Posted a question about band / ppl to play with on local FB group. I saw that there are peeps potentially interested in playing stoner/doom, so maybe I'll be lucky this time...

I have thought about this too, recruiting the right band members for me

one thing I want to do is to one day be the one going the extra mile in my band

for instance in bands around Austin I have seen people:

(1) buy a van and plan out a tour themselves
(2) rent a practice studio by themselves and then recruit band members
(3) have great recording gear to recruit other bandmates
(4) turn their living room into a soundproofed band practice area and recording studio
(5) buy all the gear for all bandmates so they just have to show up to practice.  so that the drummer does not have to move his gear or anything.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 25, 2014, 10:39:16 AM
Those are all good things to do, and pretty doable. #1 for sure.

#5 can be a slippery slope. You don't necessarily want to provide gear to people who don't have gear. But the right people are worth lending to. I let my bassist for Ocean of Stars use my rig for rehearsals and gigs. It's in the van anyway and sounds good \m/,

Having any kind of decent recording gear is always a plus.

Even if you don't have your own rehearsal room, eating the cost of an hourly can definitely sweeten the deal
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 25, 2014, 05:23:19 PM
Gibson just keeps on getting stupider. We don't want self-tuning guitars, you jackasses.

http://www2.gibson.com/Gibson-USA-2015.aspx

eh, at least they're using rosewood on the fretboards again...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 25, 2014, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: Danny G on September 25, 2014, 10:39:16 AM
Those are all good things to do, and pretty doable. #1 for sure.

#5 can be a slippery slope. You don't necessarily want to provide gear to people who don't have gear. But the right people are worth lending to. I let my bassist for Ocean of Stars use my rig for rehearsals and gigs. It's in the van anyway and sounds good \m/,

Having any kind of decent recording gear is always a plus.

Even if you don't have your own rehearsal room, eating the cost of an hourly can definitely sweeten the deal

cool brutha \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 26, 2014, 02:56:46 AM
A guy asked me if he could use my subwoofers for his show. Nice guy generally, and he booked me to play in the same room once, and that day he picked me up in his car to bring the subs over there. But he got a ticket (no registration sticker) and didn't want to bring the subs back too - so I paid for a cab ride and spent 30 bucks (he paid me 36 for the show).

I told him no, maybe I'm a dick but I don't see the point of lending equipment for a show that I'm not playing. The venue is in Manhattan (up a long flight of stairs) and the subs are in Brooklyn. He didn't offer to rent them, I don't see anything in it for me except I am committed to help carry my gear to his show, arrive early and stay late. If we were both on the same bill, then it's different. He's also not my bro.

Dick?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 26, 2014, 05:10:53 AM
do you owe him a good favor? if not, that seems kind of an imposition on you.  I don't want to haul your fucking subs in and out of the car up and down the stairs, smash one of my fret hand fingers, resent the world for a minute. So I can't imagine you do either. :)
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on September 26, 2014, 09:22:46 AM
He's the dick if you're not super tight bros. And a bro wouldn't leave you cabbing them home.

Sent from my anal chakra with 3rd degree Reiki
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on September 26, 2014, 11:51:38 AM
Quote from: RacerX on September 25, 2014, 05:23:19 PM
Gibson just keeps on getting stupider. We don't want self-tuning guitars, you jackasses.

http://www2.gibson.com/Gibson-USA-2015.aspx

eh, at least they're using rosewood on the fretboards again...

Sheesh.

Gibson's missteps are encouraging though. The void in the market they create by having a mass of uninteresting (and unaffordable) instruments will be filled with simpler, better, and cheaper instruments from other guitar makers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 26, 2014, 11:56:54 AM
I've never bought a Gibson new, but they're definitely not making it look like an attractive option.

Their acoustics are still pretty decent, but there are far better out there for cheaper; you're mostly paying for the name on the headstock.

I'd sure love one of them Super Jumbos, though...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 26, 2014, 03:35:55 PM
10 years ago the faded SGs were fine players, has the quality dropped recently? Who else sells a US made guitar for $500? I don't pay any attention to their $2,000+ models.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on September 26, 2014, 07:58:47 PM
We got our 3 first shows lined up the coming 1.5 month. The first one is next week friday so pretty stoked about that. We're gonna do that one as a duo since we're used to it but we're working in a synth player and maybe a guitarist.

Thinking about adding an extra effect to my pedalboard, I feel like I want something extra just for variation sake, otherwise it's mainly fuzz and phaser. Either the Joyo Tremolo or the Mooer Ana Echo, any opinions on those 2? Not sure which effect I'd like the most..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 26, 2014, 08:13:00 PM
You'd probably get more use out of an echo/delay/reverb pedal since you already have a phaser for oscillating sounds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on September 27, 2014, 01:25:57 AM
That was what I was thinking as well. Do you think I'd be able to get "One of These Days" type echo out of that Mooer?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 27, 2014, 02:29:44 AM
The Ana Echo is pretty short. Like .3 seconds (max) or something? Nice and warm, but short. If you need a longer delay and like the small size of Mooers, check out the Reecho. Thats one's like .8 seconds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 27, 2014, 02:36:59 AM
just played the first UxSx show tonight. it wasn't a perfect performance by any means, but people seemed to dig it. pics soon..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 27, 2014, 05:06:26 AM
a good reason to have a pile of guitars,(but not the reason/theme of the other thread)
is that when you are on a roll and break a string, you can just grab another one and keep going.

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is UxSx   code for your unholy band name?    ya never know with shit like SxSW or wtf heh.

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was nuking some coffee and stretching wondering if everyone else is going to somehow fit something like that into their routine.
I have a nice big 12oz cup so it takes 2 minutes in the little nuker. amazing what can be done in the 2 minutes I normally would have stared out the window at the thermometer or something
the pot turns off after an hour or 2 so the coffee doesn't burn up ,so it is always cold, but cold coffee may save my life because I can knock a set of something out every round. and I drink a lot of coffee(lo caf for sure or I would fry)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 27, 2014, 02:41:32 PM
yeah..UxSx = UNHOLY SEMEN. \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 27, 2014, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: jibberish on September 27, 2014, 05:06:26 AM
a good reason to have a pile of guitars,(but not the reason/theme of the other thread)
is that when you are on a roll and break a string, you can just grab another one and keep going.

It could be because I don't do a lot of string bending but I can't remember the last time I broke I string. I think it happened once or twice many years ago.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on September 27, 2014, 06:10:28 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 26, 2014, 03:35:55 PM
10 years ago the faded SGs were fine players, has the quality dropped recently? Who else sells a US made guitar for $500? I don't pay any attention to their $2,000+ models.

Every Faded series Gibson I've played has been a disappointment. They feel bunk, they fight intonation like it was an enemy, and pretty much all the components are noticeably subpar. Resale "value" ain't so hot either, no surprise there. Do they serve a purpose? Sure, but not as an economic path to Gibsonness, IMO.
   The "good" Epiphones are about the same cost and are world's better, again IMO
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 27, 2014, 06:19:05 PM
A good portion of the new Gibsons I've played were shit quality to me.  Way too much finish work needed for a 3-5 thousand dollar guitar.  That's why I latched onto the two used ones I've got.  The 12 pound '78 is heavy but plays like butter.  The ought six has a neck repair and is a metal machina and looks real purdy.  Gotta agree whole fartedly on the Epi's.  A while back I was playing a natural finish Epi Explorer and expounding on it's virtues but damning it's neck dive quite vocally but rockin on it in the shop.  I had to put it back.  Couple other fellas were nearby and must have overheard cuz when I went back the next day to say fuck it I'll try to work past the neck dive, said fiddle was gone.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 27, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
Explorer? Neck dive? Horseshit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 27, 2014, 08:52:17 PM
Quote from: Metal and Beer on September 27, 2014, 06:10:28 PM
Every Faded series Gibson I've played has been a disappointment. They feel bunk, they fight intonation like it was an enemy, and pretty much all the components are noticeably subpar. Resale "value" ain't so hot either, no surprise there. Do they serve a purpose? Sure, but not as an economic path to Gibsonness, IMO.
   The "good" Epiphones are about the same cost and are world's better, again IMO

Have you checked out an SGJ? They are $150-200 less than the new fadeds. I didn't have much luck intonating my old faded but I didn't know what I was doing at the time either. Any guitar with adjustable bridge saddles should intonate okay.

The 'good' Epi SG is the G-400 but I find them annoyingly neck heavy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 27, 2014, 09:04:35 PM
^real good thing gibsons have nice adjustable bridge saddles. i had to fix the a on mine when i got it. it almost ran out of travel. that's how dorked the a was from the factory

why do i break strings?
i just really go for it when i play sometimes and break the hell out of strings.  i always stop and perform the "throw the great claw" ceremony and recite the mantra "We bad, we bad, uh-huh" when i blow out a low E.   elektrohasch said it was ok. he breaks lots of strings via his enthusiastic playing too heh.

i will say, the tele is almost impossible to break a string. the tail has these clever like trays that let the string move a hair to the side. the LP just cuts them off.
the tele really is a brilliant yet simple design. as an entire unit, it is super slick.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 27, 2014, 09:54:03 PM
And why don't I currently own a fucking Tele?  Head scratch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on September 27, 2014, 10:06:24 PM
hey guys. I'm not trying to be "that guy" that only posts when he has something to promote.....but it looks like it's turning out that way :)
I've been posting this stuff just about everywhere else so I figured why not here.
Well after taking a bit of a break (guitarist had a kid) Mass Driver (http://"https://www.facebook.com/massdriverband") has a few shows and other things going on.
First and foremost, we have a show this Thursday in Knoxville at the Concourse/International. This will be our first show at this venue and it should be an interesting one.
We'll be opening for a few "horror punk" bands. I'll be honest.... that kind of music is far from my thing but whatevs... it should be an interesting night anyway. And any excuse I have to play loud fuzzy riffs is cool and the gang with me.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1444201825857310/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/1444201825857310/)
We have a "CD" release kind of show on the 18th at Disc Exchange. Which is a pretty rad record store just on the other side of the sun sphere (you know...the thing with the wig shop at the top)
It's a free show and happening on a Saturday at 2 pm. Which is cool because that means that we'll be playing to folks that we would never play to otherwise. I finished up the flyer last night and got it hung up over most of the area today.
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Last (but certainly not least) our T shirts arrived about 2 weeks ago.... with original artwork by yours truly..... of course
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We're still working on a music video for one of our songs. It will probably be awhile before it's finished but I'll be sure to post it once it is.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 28, 2014, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: mortlock on September 27, 2014, 02:41:32 PM
yeah..UxSx = UNHOLY SEMEN. \m/
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 28, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
Southern Wisconsin is going heavy duo crazy. 3 new ones just started playing out and there are at least 2 more in the works.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 28, 2014, 11:29:50 PM
ok I found an area where the tele is lame:  jazzy/finger-pick/classical/mood/psych...ish stuff. too tin can for all that.  LP territory. also maybe I haven't had it long enough, but I cant make it get all kinds of tones like the LP either.  

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edit UxSx needs a mascot like rattlehead or eddie or gorgor.     have a pirate named Malcum (mal evil, cum jizz)..unholy seaman type dude
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 29, 2014, 12:04:09 AM
Quote from: jibberish on September 28, 2014, 11:29:50 PM
ok I found an area where the tele is lame:  jazzy/finger-pick/classical/mood/psych...ish stuff. too tin can for all that.  LP territory. also maybe I haven't had it long enough, but I cant make it get all kinds of tones like the LP either.  

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edit UxSx needs a mascot like rattlehead or eddie or gorgor.     have a pirate named Malcum (mal evil, cum jizz)..unholy seaman type dude
that's way out of our price range..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 29, 2014, 02:41:26 AM
Trying hard to sell my Skervesen. I need that Rickenbacker...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 29, 2014, 04:30:58 AM
UNHOLY SEMEN!!!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 29, 2014, 05:43:50 AM
does anyone have a cheap POS wireless mic laying around collecting dust that I can borrow until next spring?
I want to try to make a "Leslette".  make a little box with a little motor and resonant chamber and spin the mic around in baffles. runs on 9v, so you drop in front of amp and step on footswitch to make it spin. no other connections or wires other than footswitch.

furthermore, the mic receiver can get its signal sent to different effects than the rest of the rig

also, I think a mic through a little computer fan is a hilarious effect.  the retard in me could entertain myself until I fried my throat deploying zylon fighters, said through a big fan.
that's another battery powered physical effect that is pretty fucked up that I want to play with. DEPLOY ALL ZYLON FIGHTERS
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edit: the coolest sound in the world is the sound of a zizzer. 

wtf is a zizzer you azzizisk?   ingredients: 1 campfire, 1 stick, 1 empty hotdog bun bag.

wrap and work the bag onto the stick by tying and briefling melting it a bit quickly in the fire until it is a big blob at the end and well secured

you need it kind of quiet, like at end of party and the fire is mostly quiet coals.  get the tip of the bag burning, and work it to keep the flame small so the whole bag doesnt melt off the stick=game over.

the little flame will start dripping drops of molten , flaming plastic. the sound is one of the most amazing sounds ever created by anything. very multidimensional sound too as a drop falls. like it is going through an envelope and filters. and it hits with a little "puh" heh. and you can drip it into a thing of liquid for a more cutoff sound and an ending sizzle heh.

dont drip it on yourself=mini napalm experience
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 29, 2014, 06:03:42 AM
yeah, rip mr jim trafficant tractorcant

DOH SHIT  wrong blog. doh derrr duh haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: xayk on September 29, 2014, 10:24:40 AM
Quote from: RAGER on September 27, 2014, 06:19:05 PM
The 12 pound '78 is heavy but plays like butter. 

The best guitar I've ever played is a battered '79 SG. A friend has it and isn't playing it, and I offer to buy it every 3 months or so.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 29, 2014, 10:27:51 AM
You can use plastic army men as well. Melt the base a bit to stick them upside down to something, light their heads or arms on fire. Sit back and enjoy, while being careful not to burn the structure down.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mutantcolors on September 29, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
Quote from: jibberish on September 27, 2014, 05:06:26 AM
was nuking some coffee and stretching wondering if everyone else is going to somehow fit something like that into their routine.
I have a nice big 12oz cup so it takes 2 minutes in the little nuker. amazing what can be done in the 2 minutes I normally would have stared out the window at the thermometer or something
the pot turns off after an hour or 2 so the coffee doesn't burn up ,so it is always cold, but cold coffee may save my life because I can knock a set of something out every round. and I drink a lot of coffee(lo caf for sure or I would fry)


After shit started to go down in Thailand, and my gym closed due to a shooting death (true story) I was getting stir crazy from lack of exercise. Since my kitchen consisted of a microwave in the apartment lobby, I did calf raises along with the countdown on the timer. 90 seconds is a motherfucker, multiplied by a few times a day for a couple months. And people say it's hard to make your calves grow...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on September 29, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
Probably I found a bass player for stoner doom. Now I'm stressed that I'll fuck it up with my terrible guitar skills :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 01, 2014, 04:37:58 AM
so 1:30 nuking the coffee is enough to knock out 25ish windmills. you feel your whole lower back glowing
to really wake up, I knock out a set of assisted deep knee bends. the assisted part is pulling up on the countertop so I don't blow my knees out at the very bottom. one knee sounds like crunching up a baggie every rep as it is...ooooh. fuck it.  I did 27 in 1:45.  that's a rush.

have been adding one every week since I started a couple months ago. I started at 18.
I actually can tell a difference in overall leg power..i am digging the sensation.
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so the pharaoh is really nice for turning the gain down on that little greta 12au7 amp. it also tightens up the distortion if that makes sense.  alone greta is like a big loose floppybox distortion box. the pharaoh puts it back to a smaller tighter muff buzz.
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I found out I have that disease where a kid ages too fast.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 01, 2014, 04:46:14 AM
I can give terrible guitar lessons. i'll teach you to do everything wrong.
maybe you can even unlearn a few things. come on, give it a try.

I have been a shredder cup finalist 4 years running. so I have cred.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 08:45:09 AM
Quote from: Omlet on September 29, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
Probably I found a bass player for stoner doom. Now I'm stressed that I'll fuck it up with my terrible guitar skills :D

If I can do it so can you dude...I'm not much of a guitarist, and I've done alright for myself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 01, 2014, 12:50:12 PM
Quote from: jibberish on October 01, 2014, 04:46:14 AM
I can give terrible guitar lessons. i'll teach you to do everything wrong.
maybe you can even unlearn a few things. come on, give it a try.

Every so often someone I know wants me to give them, their friend, their kid, etc guitar lessons. I try to explain to them that I don't know how to play real chords and only truly know one scale and that I just play simple heavy metal but they don't want to hear it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 01, 2014, 02:50:38 PM
haha. ya, how to hold the thing wrong, bogus hand positions, total slop picking and zero definition...there is only ONE solution:
more distortion and turn it up louder. BUT I charge less to fuck you up, so I represent value. I also teach the Kawasaki dick finger method and secret stringbusting hacks.
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that GC 15% discount card would be sweet, except the list of exclusions on back looks the same as the entire NAMM exhibitors list.
So, no Taylor, Roland, fender, orange, novation, arturia, shure, moog discounts, which is what I would have been looking at, so fuck that noise.

back to the used departments
those little volca korg synths are showing up by the ton for <$100 a pop now. old style minibrute price is tanking. new=$400. used ones are into the high 2's. used microbrutes <$200, yeah here we go.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 01, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
 

Every so often someone I know wants me to give them, their friend, their kid, etc guitar lessons. I try to explain to them that I don't know how to play real chords and only truly know one scale and that I just play simple heavy metal but they don't want to hear it.
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ya there is a big difference between a GIT tech guitar school teacher or jazz/classical guitar and teh uber heavy metalz
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 07:22:48 PM
I've given some people lessons, though I choose to only work with people who have a really, really good ear.  I figure I can teach those people how to eventually figure things out for themselves.  Never have charged, always just did it for free.



Psyched to do some soundtrack work for a documentary.  Had talked about it with a guy for awhile, and today he told me he's going to send me some footage he needs music over.  Should be cool...





Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 07:35:24 PM
so the dude in a band we just played with in buffalo sends me a text today [they are based out of ohio]. apparently he had a visit from the local police and the officer had a copy of the flyer and asked if he knew who was passing them out. of course he said he didnt [wink wink] but it appears someone got their hands on one and was so offended they went to the police. now that show in question, did feature bands with offensive names [unholy semen, penis geyser] and i am well aware that ohio is a completely fucked up state on religion, but are the cops seriously that fucking bored..i will consider my band officially banned from ohio now. cant take any chances..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 07:35:24 PM
so the dude in a band we just played with in buffalo sends me a text today [they are based out of ohio]. apparently he had a visit from the local police and the officer had a copy of the flyer and asked if he knew who was passing them out. of course he said he didnt [wink wink] but it appears someone got their hands on one and was so offended they went to the police. now that show in question, did feature bands with offensive names [unholy semen, penis geyser] and i am well aware that ohio is a completely fucked up state on religion, but are the cops seriously that fucking bored..i will consider my band officially banned from ohio now. cant take any chances..


Mission accomplished?  Isn't the point of having an offensive name to offend those who are easily offended?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 07:40:16 PM
true, but id like to stop just short of police contact..me and cops dont mix well..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 07:40:16 PM
true, but id like to stop just short of police contact..me and cops dont mix well..


Yeah, makes sense.

An old garage punk band I was playing in, The Neon Tits, got banned from our hometown for a flyer.  The singer was really, really good at being offensive.  We had songs like "God Hates You Because You're Gay", "Fuck Canada", "The Jews Have Ruined My Pecker", and we were working on a new one called "It Was A Dark Day In Blacksburg And I've Got The Yellow Fever".  It was the week after the Virginia Tech killings, that was what the song was about.  It went beyond our general level of offensiveness, I think the opening lines were something like "Me Chinese, me play joke, shoot up school and make guns smoke."  We were already banned from a lot of venues for various shenanigans, like damaging the venue, or just playing The Ronettes "Be My Baby" over and over again, or just chanting "U. S. A.!!! U. S. A.!!!" over and over again while running around the stage wearing American flags instead of playing any songs, the usual kinda stuff.

I had a copy of Newsweek that had a picture of the VaTech killer on the cover, with all of his victims in the background.  The singer asked if he could borrow it.  Next thing you know, he'd made a flyer out of that and posted it everywhere about an upcoming show, and we were banned from playing the venue on the flyer.  The owner was PISSED.  We did one more show at a restaurant, as every other music venue in town followed suit and banned us.  The band kinda fell apart after, which wasn't surprising, as it was designed to be a trainwreck to begin with.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 01, 2014, 08:00:17 PM
Sounds way too contrived.  Better when it just happens on its own.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
Quote from: RAGER on October 01, 2014, 08:00:17 PM
Sounds way too contrived.  Better when it just happens on its own.


Oh yeah, totally contrived.  I was just "filling in" on bass, so I wasn't too invested in the band.  It wasn't really my thing, but it was a lot of fucking fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on October 01, 2014, 09:06:01 PM
Does anyone know why people hide/mask/blur the serial numbers on their guitars (usually Gibsons) when they're selling them? I can't think of much that someone could do with that info, besides very accurately date the instrument.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 01, 2014, 09:25:14 PM
I too have wondered this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 01, 2014, 10:23:15 PM
maybe not the seller but somewhere along the lines the instrument with the blurred serial numbers was stolen
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 11:21:10 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 07:40:16 PM
true, but id like to stop just short of police contact..me and cops dont mix well..


Yeah, makes sense.

An old garage punk band I was playing in, The Neon Tits, got banned from our hometown for a flyer.  The singer was really, really good at being offensive.  We had songs like "God Hates You Because You're Gay", "Fuck Canada", "The Jews Have Ruined My Pecker", and we were working on a new one called "It Was A Dark Day In Blacksburg And I've Got The Yellow Fever".  It was the week after the Virginia Tech killings, that was what the song was about.  It went beyond our general level of offensiveness, I think the opening lines were something like "Me Chinese, me play joke, shoot up school and make guns smoke."  We were already banned from a lot of venues for various shenanigans, like damaging the venue, or just playing The Ronettes "Be My Baby" over and over again, or just chanting "U. S. A.!!! U. S. A.!!!" over and over again while running around the stage wearing American flags instead of playing any songs, the usual kinda stuff.

I had a copy of Newsweek that had a picture of the VaTech killer on the cover, with all of his victims in the background.  The singer asked if he could borrow it.  Next thing you know, he'd made a flyer out of that and posted it everywhere about an upcoming show, and we were banned from playing the venue on the flyer.  The owner was PISSED.  We did one more show at a restaurant, as every other music venue in town followed suit and banned us.  The band kinda fell apart after, which wasn't surprising, as it was designed to be a trainwreck to begin with.

im pretty sure I would have loved that band.. haha. im thinking UxSx needs to cover "It Was A Dark Day In Blacksburg And I've Got The Yellow Fever".  you got any recording so I can learn that one??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 01, 2014, 11:36:21 PM
I would love to do movie soundtrack work. My own instrumental music is pretty much music for movies that don't yet exist.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 02, 2014, 07:38:08 AM
soundtracks would be fun I bet.  i'll sign up for the redo of "the naked lunch"


dinger, it probably was wise of fate not to have me involved with that crazy-fun rebellious band in any way.
we would probably all just be getting out on parole about now.

maybe if I work at it, I can get kicked out of ohio.

Taste Ebola Dicks  wants on the next bill
..it will go viral....
our groupies are called Teddies.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on October 02, 2014, 11:01:03 PM
Watching The Royal Pines right now. Bass dude is playing a p bass through a big honk in' peavy solid state rig with some od.  His sound is killer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 03, 2014, 01:05:51 AM
I like my p but wish it also had the j pup. Actually I wish it had the j neck and wasn't a p but also had the p pup.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 03, 2014, 02:06:35 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQy0h2-NxaOOPX5ktD5DlIGbutmkh7bEscHHieQbY-YL5Jxvx3dA)j with 2 p pups..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on October 03, 2014, 02:33:19 AM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 07:40:16 PM
true, but id like to stop just short of police contact..me and cops dont mix well..


Yeah, makes sense.

An old garage punk band I was playing in, The Neon Tits, got banned from our hometown for a flyer.  The singer was really, really good at being offensive.  We had songs like "God Hates You Because You're Gay", "Fuck Canada", "The Jews Have Ruined My Pecker", and we were working on a new one called "It Was A Dark Day In Blacksburg And I've Got The Yellow Fever".  It was the week after the Virginia Tech killings, that was what the song was about.  It went beyond our general level of offensiveness, I think the opening lines were something like "Me Chinese, me play joke, shoot up school and make guns smoke."  We were already banned from a lot of venues for various shenanigans, like damaging the venue, or just playing The Ronettes "Be My Baby" over and over again, or just chanting "U. S. A.!!! U. S. A.!!!" over and over again while running around the stage wearing American flags instead of playing any songs, the usual kinda stuff.

I had a copy of Newsweek that had a picture of the VaTech killer on the cover, with all of his victims in the background.  The singer asked if he could borrow it.  Next thing you know, he'd made a flyer out of that and posted it everywhere about an upcoming show, and we were banned from playing the venue on the flyer.  The owner was PISSED.  We did one more show at a restaurant, as every other music venue in town followed suit and banned us.  The band kinda fell apart after, which wasn't surprising, as it was designed to be a trainwreck to begin with.

That band sounded fucking great live I'd love to see something like that.  Theres this oddball venue in Chicago called The Mutiny that is always no cover that has some crazy bands sometimes because literally anyone can play there and I saw a band called Harry and the Homos and a bunch of middle aged dudes came out in S&M gimp outfits and "Harry" was an immensely fat 40 year old dude wearing just a gimp mask and thong and they just did crazy abrasive hardcore.  It was actually hugely entertaining.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 03, 2014, 04:22:02 AM
Quick question about cabs/wattage again guys?

The watts of the cabs needs to be high enough for the head, if you have two cabs is that each or combined? For example the head is 400w, do you need 2 x 200w cabs or 2 x 400w?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 03, 2014, 05:07:19 AM
hi jumz. in a quick word : yes, the total power of the amp is split between the two cabs equally, if the cabs are equal ohms. (this is not answering your question at this point)
However, which wattage cabs you need may not be that obvious.

I would like to describe one thing about SS amps regarding power out vs speaker ohms.  SS amps pour out more juice as the ohms gets lower. less resistance to current flow. this means that the amp can deliver more power(watts) to a lower value ohms of the speakers.

I can only think of one possibly gotcha, and I bet as long as you are close you probably are ok, but here goes anyway.
lets say they hand you a 400watt into 8 ohm/600watt into 4 ohm style amp, and 2 200w 8 ohm cabs. it kind of looks like this will be cool, but when you hook both cabs up, how do they go? in parallel? or in series?   

parallel combines down to 4 ohms and this hookup will put 600 watts total to your pair of 200watt cabs. maybe those 200w cabs like 300w, maybe they don't.
series adds up to 16ohms. unfortunately, there is no real nice 16ohm tap like on a tube amp. all that happens is that current flow gets strangled and now maybe this 400w amp can only do 200 watts total, so 100watts a cab isn't going to be as loud. it will be safe for the cabs tho.

if the amp is a 400w into 4 ohm speakers and you have those 8ohm 200w cabs in parallel, the match is perfect.  the 2 8ohms parallels down to 4ohms total and the watts handling adds to 400watts total.

sry for the book. I just get rolling and go.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 03, 2014, 10:32:28 AM
Don't apologise jibbs it's interesting and you describe it well!

It's starting to sink in now but I still find it daunting, less worried about damaging stuff now iv learned more but still concerned over the potential to dislike the sound of a new set up. My head is 450w min 4ohm I think, iv decided to take my 8ohm bass 4x12 to the gigs this weekend despite being asked by one to use their backline to save space. I can't get hold of the person who has the info on gear specs so all I know is that it's 2 4x12 peavy guitar cabs or 2 orange ppc 2x12, all of which are probably 16ohm from what I can see online, I guess the peavys are 300-400w and the oranges 120w. So I guess I'm right in thinking the oranges would be no good and the peavys could be a good possibility..... ?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 03, 2014, 10:57:23 AM
..taking a break from hustling houseplants into the house..it is about to get cold...
ok, i'm trying my best to effectively communicate because once this all clicks, you are free heh.

I hope someone else who knows those cabs can jump in with real world experience.

your 450watts at 4ohms will be something like 300 +/- running into 8 ohms.
both 16ohm cabs in parallel, of course will drop to 8 ohms total which is what the amp sees.
so now do you want to really open those oranges up all the way or run 800watts capacity 4x12 peaveys?
I think somewhere here , you have to figure out how each setup sounds for final decision.

one more crazy idea    parallel your 8 ohm bass cab and both orange 2x12's all together. this gives you full amp 450watts because you are showing the amp 4ohms by paralleling 1 8ohm+ 2 16 ohms.  power distro is like so:  each single 16ohm orange will only get half of what the bass cab gets, or in other words bass cab gets half the total at 8 ohms, and the 8 ohm parallel pair of oranges gets the other half to split evenly: bass gets 1/2, each orange gets 1/4 total amp power

SO..heh, this triple parallel would put half the total(225watts) into the 8 ohm bass cab. it would then put half of that into each orange like 112. I think this would make the most noise of any combo of those 5 cabs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 03, 2014, 12:01:50 PM
That's an awesome idea I wouldn't have known about that! Can I take you with me? ;D so I presume the bass cab into one output and the 2x12s into the other linked? So 8ohm cab + 2 x 16ohm cab = 4ohm which = full power?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 03, 2014, 12:56:11 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on October 03, 2014, 12:01:50 PM
That's an awesome idea I wouldn't have known about that! Can I take you with me? ;D so I presume the bass cab into one output and the 2x12s into the other linked? So 8ohm cab + 2 x 16ohm cab = 4ohm which = full power?


Yes ma'am, you got it.

and to answer all your questions there: yes, yes*, yes.....and yes. haha.

* as long as you mean linked=parallel
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on October 03, 2014, 12:58:31 PM
OHMG this is the one topic that makes me glad I'm a drummer - I just can't seem to wrap my head around it. Hit drums with sticks - no problem.

Sent from my anal chakra with 3rd degree Reiki
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 03, 2014, 02:16:35 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 03, 2014, 02:06:35 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSQy0h2-NxaOOPX5ktD5DlIGbutmkh7bEscHHieQbY-YL5Jxvx3dA)j with 2 p pups..

A J with both types of pups would be great. I wonder if they ever made a Mexican or Squire version. I could of course have a J pup put into mine.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 03, 2014, 05:34:03 PM
Awesome jibbs, you have taught me well, I'm relieved to realise it's finally starting to sink in, I was starting to think I'd never get it! (Oh yeah I meant parallel but that the two oranges would be linked (series'd) together?

Agent let's not get started on drums! ;) every time I try to help my bandmates set up or take down their kit I end up a mangled mess on the floor covered in cuts and bruises ;) ok maybe not as bad but I always get hurt every time!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on October 03, 2014, 07:21:49 PM
We were supposed to play our first show tonight but the show got cancelled and the touring band got added to another show. Ran into the promotor later at another show and he asked if we wanted to play with a cool Swedish band in february in a bigger venue to make up for it. Sweet.

Also we just rehearsed instead and fine tuned the set a bit more so definitely no loss. Better preparation for the first real one at the end of the month.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 04, 2014, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 11:21:10 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on October 01, 2014, 07:51:03 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 01, 2014, 07:40:16 PM
true, but id like to stop just short of police contact..me and cops dont mix well..


Yeah, makes sense.

An old garage punk band I was playing in, The Neon Tits, got banned from our hometown for a flyer.  The singer was really, really good at being offensive.  We had songs like "God Hates You Because You're Gay", "Fuck Canada", "The Jews Have Ruined My Pecker", and we were working on a new one called "It Was A Dark Day In Blacksburg And I've Got The Yellow Fever".  It was the week after the Virginia Tech killings, that was what the song was about.  It went beyond our general level of offensiveness, I think the opening lines were something like "Me Chinese, me play joke, shoot up school and make guns smoke."  We were already banned from a lot of venues for various shenanigans, like damaging the venue, or just playing The Ronettes "Be My Baby" over and over again, or just chanting "U. S. A.!!! U. S. A.!!!" over and over again while running around the stage wearing American flags instead of playing any songs, the usual kinda stuff.

I had a copy of Newsweek that had a picture of the VaTech killer on the cover, with all of his victims in the background.  The singer asked if he could borrow it.  Next thing you know, he'd made a flyer out of that and posted it everywhere about an upcoming show, and we were banned from playing the venue on the flyer.  The owner was PISSED.  We did one more show at a restaurant, as every other music venue in town followed suit and banned us.  The band kinda fell apart after, which wasn't surprising, as it was designed to be a trainwreck to begin with.

im pretty sure I would have loved that band.. haha. im thinking UxSx needs to cover "It Was A Dark Day In Blacksburg And I've Got The Yellow Fever".  you got any recording so I can learn that one??

Ah shit, we never recorded anything, and we never even got to play that song live.  I remember it was that stupid really generic/stereotypical "Chinese" melody you always hear, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_riff) played over and over again with the singer screaming offensive and stereotypical things.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
For volume, theoretically how much louder would 350 SS watts into two 4x10s be over 800 watts into one 4x10? Assuming the cabs would be the same. Baritone bass side planning.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 05, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
For volume, theoretically how much louder would 350 SS watts into two 4x10s be over 800 watts into one 4x10? Assuming the cabs would be the same. Baritone bass side planning.


Depends on the resistance/ohms.

Two 4x10's will push more air, and often give a "perception" of more actual volume.
Title: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on October 05, 2014, 11:31:18 AM
This is how I think about it too. I want our sound to be "wider" not louder. I don't know shit about ohms and watts but I do know that so far more cabs been exactly what I want to hear and feel.

Sent from my anal chakra with 3rd degree Reiki
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 05, 2014, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on October 05, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
For volume, theoretically how much louder would 350 SS watts into two 4x10s be over 800 watts into one 4x10? Assuming the cabs would be the same. Baritone bass side planning.


Depends on the resistance/ohms.

Two 4x10's will push more air, and often give a "perception" of more actual volume.

The numbers are RMS that the cabs would receive, I've factored in the ohms. 2 different amps.

Today I snagged 2 I believe fairly well built 15s with Eminence speakers for $50 each so I'm not as concerned with the 4x10 idea. Will post pics later this week in the new gear thread.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 05, 2014, 10:52:36 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on October 05, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
For volume, theoretically how much louder would 350 SS watts into two 4x10s be over 800 watts into one 4x10? Assuming the cabs would be the same. Baritone bass side planning.


Depends on the resistance/ohms.

Two 4x10's will push more air, and often give a "perception" of more actual volume.

what exactly does 'perception of volume' mean. either its loud or it isn't.. unless youre referring to different levels of deafness in people..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 06, 2014, 12:30:03 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 05, 2014, 10:52:36 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on October 05, 2014, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
For volume, theoretically how much louder would 350 SS watts into two 4x10s be over 800 watts into one 4x10? Assuming the cabs would be the same. Baritone bass side planning.


Depends on the resistance/ohms.

Two 4x10's will push more air, and often give a "perception" of more actual volume.

what exactly does 'perception of volume' mean. either its loud or it isn't.. unless youre referring to different levels of deafness in people..


Well, think about it.  If you have a 4x10 pushing a lot of volume, it's loud, though if it ain't going through the PA, it's just 4 speakers.

If you've got three 8 x 10's pushing not as much volume, it can sound fuller without being louder wattage or even decibel wise.  To your ears/mind, it often will sound much louder even if it technically is not.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 06, 2014, 09:45:07 AM
hey jumz, I hope it isnt too, late, but that linking issue... if those 2 oranges are series, that will be 32 ohms. that will be really quiet through those 2 oranges.
they should all be parallel to each other. need a parallel box, not series box.

SERIES BAD, PARALLEL GOOD, accept no substitutes. heh.

edit: IF the orange cabs are each 4 ohm then link them series. if they are 16 ohm, link then parallel: the goal is total of 8 ohms so that that pair matches the 8 ohms of your bass cab, to keep everything divvied up evenly

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IMO, speakers sound biggest when they are being played quietly by amps that have huge headroom.  everyone just sits the fuck down when I play my stereo. it is so huge sounding yet we can talk over the actual volume.  but I have 6 nice speakers all playing at 0.1 watt or 0.5 watt w/e and it is so huge and rich.
basically I agree with what dinger is trying to explain here. it is not hard numbers, it is an impression or illusion or wtf.

BOSE is really good with that acoustic voodoo and they have strange methods for bass enhancement and room filling etc

It seemed to me, for playing an instrument,you have to balance tone with efficiency.  pushing speakers to capacity opens them up all the way and they sound different than speakers playing relaxedly

the bass cab+orange+orange would run those speakers with amp power matched closely to their capacity. IDK, does this range give more performance expression options?

there is a chance the 2 400 watt peavey 4x12's would be louder, but I doubt it. beefier voice coil costs efficiency. when 400 watts is thru those 400w cabs, they will be louder than the pair of 120w orange cabs, but at 100watts, probably not.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 07, 2014, 12:15:03 AM
Had the first 2 piece jam/practice tonight, went well. My back seems to be getting used to the baritone too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 07, 2014, 01:10:35 AM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on October 06, 2014, 12:30:03 AM
Well, think about it.  If you have a 4x10 pushing a lot of volume, it's loud, though if it ain't going through the PA, it's just 4 speakers.

If you've got three 8 x 10's pushing not as much volume, it can sound fuller without being louder wattage or even decibel wise.  To your ears/mind, it often will sound much louder even if it technically is not.


Quote from: jibberish on October 06, 2014, 09:45:07 AM
IMO, speakers sound biggest when they are being played quietly by amps that have huge headroom.  everyone just sits the fuck down when I play my stereo. it is so huge sounding yet we can talk over the actual volume.  but I have 6 nice speakers all playing at 0.1 watt or 0.5 watt w/e and it is so huge and rich.
basically I agree with what dinger is trying to explain here. it is not hard numbers, it is an impression or illusion or wtf.

BOSE is really good with that acoustic voodoo and they have strange methods for bass enhancement and room filling etc

It seemed to me, for playing an instrument,you have to balance tone with efficiency.  pushing speakers to capacity opens them up all the way and they sound different than speakers playing relaxedly


I agree with these points. I want to add that at mild to moderate volumes my rig tone sounds fantastic to me but at super loud band practice/gig without a PA for the cabs volume everything changes because the nastier harsher sounds come out and the low end can start to fart and sound shitty so it has to come down. I'm talking regular guitars, baritones, and basses. More speakers at a somewhat lower volume is generally better. Most of the stuff you folks here have said over the years is correct. Lots of loud(db) speakers, enough power(but not too much), not too much low end, enough mids to cut, etc. I just had to slowly verify it all myself I guess  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 07, 2014, 08:05:38 AM
yep. 

BTW, I figured out another audio trick. Well, bars have done it since forever, but I think more as necessity than tricky audio engineering.

speakers above head level sound huge. speakers mounted up in corners use the whole corner as a giant bass horn and sound extra huge.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tombhex on October 07, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
I think I'm going to have to return the TH30. I've got about a week left on my return policy and as much as I like the sound, it just isn't very powerful and it didn't cut at all when I jammed with friends last week. It's a shame, because I can't really afford to upgrade to a higher wattage version of the same amp. I guess back to the drawing board, looking at 100w modern-sounding amps. I missed the chance to get that Peavey JSX because I opted for the TH30 at about a $300 higher pricepoint. Bummer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 07, 2014, 12:20:27 PM
That's TH30 is more of a studio amp, but maybe if you added another cabinet?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 07, 2014, 01:03:00 PM
I can't sell my fucking Skervesen. It's obvious why - It's custom made and rather expensive instrument. I guess it will take me several months to get rid of it.

Damn, I need that Ric so badly...
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 07, 2014, 01:17:12 PM
It's a ridiculous Guitar but definitely a niche market for it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 07, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
Quote from: tombhex on October 07, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
I think I'm going to have to return the TH30. I've got about a week left on my return policy and as much as I like the sound, it just isn't very powerful and it didn't cut at all when I jammed with friends last week. It's a shame, because I can't really afford to upgrade to a higher wattage version of the same amp. I guess back to the drawing board, looking at 100w modern-sounding amps. I missed the chance to get that Peavey JSX because I opted for the TH30 at about a $300 higher pricepoint. Bummer.

XXX?
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 07, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
Look for an Ultra+
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on October 07, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
Thanks again for all your time the last couple of days jibbs, I was able to go to the fest not worried at all for a change, I took my bass cab to play but it turned out the one hired for the fest wasn't working and I lent mine for the whole two days, that meant John had to use my cab and I used the two peavy 412's (paralleled), it sounded huge! What technically is the difference between coming through one 8ohm 500w bass cab or two 16ohm 300w guitar cabs? (With 450w SS bass head) it sounded different tho I couldn't say in what way other than it seemed to push more air as you guys say, it did also seem a little brighter and softer than what I'm used to, the stack was a few inches up on a platform and the extra height of that and it being a stack seems to make a huge difference...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 07, 2014, 04:57:55 PM
jumz, I am just glad the gig went well. I was worried I would confuse you and fuck everything up.

this is one of those times where it would be cool to actually have been there to hear and see exactly wtf was happening. that would make things much easier to sort out the gear.

all I know is that more speakers up higher sound bigger than less speakers near the ground. I think the rest is all the details: what speakers, what cab design, what combo of stuff got used together, and all the other sound/tone variables.

I am just relieved you had a good gig...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 07, 2014, 10:57:28 PM
Quote from: JemDooM on October 07, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
What technically is the difference between coming through one 8ohm 500w bass cab or two 16ohm 300w guitar cabs? (With 450w SS bass head) it sounded different tho I couldn't say in what way other than it seemed to push more air as you guys say, it did also seem a little brighter and softer than what I'm used to, the stack was a few inches up on a platform and the extra height of that and it being a stack seems to make a huge difference...

Your amp probably would put out something like 300-350 watts into one 8ohm 500 watt cab and the same amount of power into two 16ohm guitar cabs because that would also be an 8 ohm load. It sounding brighter makes sense because guitar speakers in my experience sound a lot brighter than bass cab speakers. Did it also sound less bassy?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tombhex on October 08, 2014, 12:55:06 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 07, 2014, 01:24:57 PM
XXX?

I like the XXX a lot, but I have a few friends who've owned them and had reliability issues with them.

Quote from: VOLVO))) on October 07, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
Look for an Ultra+

I like the Ultras a lot, I just haven't come across one recently. I need to cool my jets and maybe take a composition or songwriting class while i polish up a bit. Bit off a bit more than I could chew with a recent project and think I need to get back to basics a bit. Anybody have any online resources for lessons that they have experience with that they'd like to recommend?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 08, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
the amount of lessons and guitar learning resources online is overwhelming. I love it.
you can get any style lessons, certain artists pet tricks, signature riffs, powertab for any song.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tombhex on October 08, 2014, 01:40:41 PM
Quote from: jibberish on October 08, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
the amount of lessons and guitar learning resources online is overwhelming. I love it.
you can get any style lessons, certain artists pet tricks, signature riffs, powertab for any song.

Oh, I know. The overwhelming part is the bit that gives me anxiety just trying to find something good, haha! I'm just wondering if anyone has any specific lessons (like Corey Hunter's youtube stuff) that they liked or thought they learned a lot from - specifically regarding composition and songwriting.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 08, 2014, 02:10:47 PM
i see. ya i was referring to all technique stuff. maybe you can sneak up on the topic by looking up like "writing a punk song" and get one genre perspective, or how to write folk tune, etc.  maybe take a free MIT music theory college class. music theory will whip you into shape. that is a huge topic oh boy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 08, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
jib..

im really trying here. i hate this shit. ok..so got my head. 250 watts into 4 ohms. my 4x10 is 8 ohms and rated for 200 watts. so basically as it stands im getting approx 125 watts out of it. got that. now if i add another 4x10 rated at 8 ohms, im now getting the full 250 watts. is that 250 to each cab or 125 to each cab?? and what if the new cab is rated at 500 watts?? does it matter?? i heard over powering a cab is better than under powering.

i found a cab i feel like i might buy..4x10/8 ohm/500 watts.

will that work with my current set up??   

please keep it as simple as possible. i already have a headache..thanks in advance
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 09, 2014, 02:18:24 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 08, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
jib..

im really trying here. i hate this shit. ok..so got my head. 250 watts into 4 ohms. my 4x10 is 8 ohms and rated for 200 watts. so basically as it stands im getting approx 125 watts out of it. got that. now if i add another 4x10 rated at 8 ohms, im now getting the full 250 watts. is that 250 to each cab or 125 to each cab?? and what if the new cab is rated at 500 watts?? does it matter?? i heard over powering a cab is better than under powering.

i found a cab i feel like i might buy..4x10/8 ohm/500 watts.

will that work with my current set up??   

please keep it as simple as possible. i already have a headache..thanks in advance

freak on a leash at your service.

first off: direct answer:  yes you can do this safely with no damage risk due to amp-speaker matching issues
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if you want to dig deeper after the advils kick in:


I will try to hit one item at a time:

1) total amp power is your total power no matter what.   so you have max 250  into 4ohms of resistance total, regardless of how it is spread out through the speakers.   the final total through ALL speakers adds up to 250.
if you have 2 parallel 8 ohm cabs which the amp sees the combo as total  of 4 ohms, it will put 250 watts worth of electrons down the pipe. just like a splitter on a faucet for 2 hoses. each hose gets half the water, and with 2 hoses going(lower resistance) easier to flow more water volume(watts)

2) the ohms is resistance or impeding the flow of current. higher resistance means harder to get electrons through there, so your amp makes less power at 8ohms vs 4ohms.
cant go below 4 ohms or you burn up your amp because you let out all the horses too fast.
you are correct in estimating lesser watts like 125-175 for 8 ohm output if amp does 250 into 4ohms

3) put it all together:   each 8 ohm cab shows the amp the same resistance and lets the amp push the same amount of juice down each cab path. 50/50. so each cab gets 125 of those 250total watts

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3) if cabinet watts is more than amp watts, amp cannot put enough energy(watts) into the cab to overheat the speakers. cab watts>>amp watts = very safe for speakers

4) I don't know about the tone. a 100w amp driving 1000w speakers never will really open them up like they can be opened up, BUT let's say we tried this. how does that sound vs a 100w cab played near max volume?  you can use any cab with rating higher than amp safely, but how loud and how does it sound?

5) lets put this part together :  both the 200w and 500w 4x10's will be safe with each getting only 125w.   

does your iPhone have an SPL meter app? you may want to measure efficiency of those 2 cabs. I always assume that a lower watt cab gets louder at that wattage than a higher power handling speaker also at that wattage, but that depends upon the drivers. have to actually check it out and see. look for efficiency specs maybe like "97db@1 watt 1meter 1khz" or some such deal.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 09, 2014, 02:34:52 AM
Today I'll meet the guy who wants to play some stoner doom. I'm curious if we can do it - he's 20 and I'm ten years older :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 09, 2014, 01:15:45 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 08, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
so got my head. 250 watts into 4 ohms. my 4x10 is 8 ohms and rated for 200 watts. so basically as it stands im getting approx 125 watts out of it. got that. now if i add another 4x10 rated at 8 ohms, im now getting the full 250 watts. is that 250 to each cab or 125 to each cab??

125 to each at full RMS watts just before clipping.

Quote from: mortlock on October 08, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
and what if the new cab is rated at 500 watts?? does it matter?? i heard over powering a cab is better than under powering.

Still 125. Over powering a cab can result in speaker destruction. I would never do this but some people do and have no problems.

Quote from: mortlock on October 08, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
i found a cab i feel like i might buy..4x10/8 ohm/500 watts.

will that work with my current set up??

Will work because it's also 8 ohms. 250 watts into two 4x10s should be pretty loud although in the future you could replace the 200 watt cab with a 500 and also get a more powerful amp for even more volume. Loud low end takes a lot of power.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 09, 2014, 02:35:33 PM
thank you both, final question.. can you buy me the cab.. thanks in advance.. ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 09, 2014, 03:39:06 PM
I hope your hernia explodes, mort.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 09, 2014, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: RacerX on October 09, 2014, 03:39:06 PM
I hope your hernia explodes, mort.

AHEM!!!!

general = bombastic
jam room = play nice

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 09, 2014, 05:12:05 PM
Sorry, forgot the  ;) .
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 09, 2014, 05:51:18 PM
am I a total idiot for going into hernia surgery while shopping for extra bass cabs..

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on October 09, 2014, 08:16:27 PM
if you plan on frequent gigging and no one in the band is willing to be your bitch? maybe. you could hire a buddy to move your shit?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 10, 2014, 02:46:53 AM
Yesterday I've met the bassist. Cool dude, despite the age difference. We'll jam on mon/tue to see if we can make it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 10, 2014, 10:46:52 AM
When I bought my house I dedicated the front room to be a lounge/record room.  The idea was to have a place with no TV to hang out and either chat with company or just enjoy music.  Naturally I wanted to have a pretty kickass sound system so I bought some decent speakers/stands, a subwoofer and a nice marantz stereo amp. 

Yesterday I really paid attention to the bass and sat in different chairs and was blown away by how obvious the bass interference from reflections is.  I've definitely thought the bass was too loud or too quiet and couldn't seem to get it right before, but never did I realize that it was so dependent on where I was sitting.  If I sat in one chair then the lower end of the guitar or upper end of the bass was overpowering and made stuff sound a little muddy.  If I moved to the chair 2-3 foot to the right then that frequency was OK but the "oomph" on the kick drum was unbearably loud.  Other parts of the room had way too much of the sub-bass. 

So the lesson learned is that I really need to treat the room if I want to improve the quality.  Unfortunately the geometry of the room is far less than ideal.  For instance, the logical place geometrically to install diffusers on the wall for reflections from the side end up being on the doorway and the fireplace.  I'm considering making bass trap wedges for the corners of the room but I don't want it to look stupid.  It's frustrating all the shit you have to do to get good, even sound. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 10, 2014, 02:46:05 PM
Dude, you're building a garage, right? Build you a custom music room in that fucker, instead. I'm sure you can figure out a new use for the "old" music room...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 10, 2014, 03:49:33 PM
I wouldnt worry about the bass traps.  the bass is gonna sound different in different spots in the room.  no matter if you have bass traps or not.


bass traps are really for mixing, so that you get a more even neutral setting when you are mixing, and the subwoofer for mixing needs to be placed in a certain spot in reference to where you sit when you are mixing.  I have a toggle switch and turn my subwoofer on and off when mixing.


check this out:

http://www.recordingreview.com/blog/recording-equipment-reviews/do-i-really-need-a-subwoofer-for-my-studio-monitors/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 10, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
Has anyone played doomy music on Fender Coronado Bass? Is it any good?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 11, 2014, 02:05:36 AM
If you were playing F tuned bass for Bongripper or a 5 string in a reggae band you'd want speakers with at least 3 or 4mm of travel right?

Reading about Xmax and what not.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on October 11, 2014, 09:29:14 AM
Quote from: RacerX on October 10, 2014, 02:46:05 PM
Dude, you're building a garage, right? Build you a custom music room in that fucker, instead. I'm sure you can figure out a new use for the "old" music room...
Different Agent

Sent from my anal chakra with 3rd degree Reiki
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 11, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
Too many agents.

*shakes fist*

THANKS, OBAMA!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 11, 2014, 09:49:09 PM
so I checked out karaoke on youtube.   there is a shitton.
I jammed out on a couple classic johnny cash tunes, and practiced my Halloween version of another tune until I roached my voice. that was fun

practicing hitting notes and timing is never a bad thing either.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: AgentofOblivion on October 12, 2014, 10:32:38 AM
I AM building a jam room in the basement though.  I considered doing just that but am not sure I want all the instrument clutter in a room where the purpose is to hang out with guests.  It could be cool if done right though.  Decisions...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 13, 2014, 12:06:53 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/13/du7ydasa.jpg)

Seeing how it sounds putting the wah at the front of my bass chain instead of at the back.

Verdict still out. Still have to dial it in every night, very finicky pedal (Snarling Dogs Whine-O wah, for guitar but using on bass as I've already broken two Bass Crybabys, which I liked)

Sounds diff but still same problem of its either TOO in your face or not in your face quite enough
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 13, 2014, 12:00:44 PM
That, and this happened en route to a gig in San Antonio Saturday night.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p296x100/10355747_10204065004579373_4284045298532903692_n.jpg?oh=519595d31c83865935b7204a0204900c&oe=54B491FE&__gda__=1425179649_588c6e16969c602e92fcd93a82b327b4)

Adrian and the Sickness sprinter van at speed on I-35 just coming into the city.

There's a loud BANG and am impact. Thought it was a blown tire but then a car came skidding past us which had obviously tagged us trying to pass going well over the limit. We were kind of in shock as we watched him then muscle BETWEEN two cars ahead of us each in their respective lanes, and continued on at a high rate of speed.

We were too busy watching for the accident he was about to cause (but thankfully did not) to get a make or license #

Pulled over to survey the damage. Whole light enclosure is fucked, door hinges damaged as well.

Rolled into the venue and Adrian called the police to at least file a report for insurance purposes.

Cop was nice, tho not much he could do. Gave her his card in case we got pulled over after the show for the busted tail light. Managed to get one of them working so no problems.

Fuckin people.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on October 13, 2014, 10:06:40 PM
I-35!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 13, 2014, 11:42:34 PM
That blows! I was almost hit by a van today on my way home from work, pulled out in front of me but I was only going 25.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 13, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
So far playing guitar and NOT singing at the same time is a lot of fun and feels very freeing. Looking forward to getting these songs tightened up and gigging ASAP.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 14, 2014, 08:33:07 PM
^awwwww.   hahaha.   i will always be a fan of singing and playing. all my songs have fucked up lyrics so they have to be sung.

i wonder if any reggae band used the name "Nappy Dread" yet. seems too obvious to not have been used, BUT there is the name of my reggae band if i ever start one.

M&B, BTW, why do reggae haters have marley pics?
exodus is one of the best albums ever made. that is a perfect album too. need to amend that other thread. no loser tracks
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 14, 2014, 10:41:59 PM
All my music (currently) is instrumental. I've sung lead in the past (meh at it) and sing harmony/backup in most bands I play in.

But not having to worry about singing/being in key/choking on your hair/etc is quite nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 15, 2014, 01:25:56 AM
^ yes. I always had to tie back my hair or I'd overheat because of the effort and concentration I had to put into it. The nervousness didn't help either. Double duty is intense. I like singing but felt trapped behind the mic sometimes. This new band is just baritone and a drummer, just riffs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 15, 2014, 02:50:51 AM
First band practice next monday. We even have a drummer and it's hard to find a drummer who want to play something other than thrash metal...

Well, my guitar skills are fucking miserable so now I'm rather nervous :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 15, 2014, 03:52:43 AM
I was curious about their empty guitar cabs and now I'm curious about their empty bass cabs. The price is right.

http://stores.ebay.com/CASE-OUTLET-GPA/Bass-Guitar-Speaker-Cabinets-/_i.html?_sop=2&_fsub=3417532017
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 16, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
Got a call from the synth tech guy that I'm having the do the os update on my Prophet 600.  He says there is a CEM 3372 that is not calibrating correctly in the VCA section.  I say to order one and broke dick says he can't cuz he broke dick at the moment.  So I'll order one and put it in myself.  Daahhhh!  Picking it up on Sunday.  GliGli update is done though and should surpass the Prophet 5 and into Oberheim territory.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 16, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
You don't have a box of these laying around somewhere do ya Jib?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 16, 2014, 09:13:24 PM
I WISH. those are worth more than germanium fuzz transistors by a shitton.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 17, 2014, 05:12:38 AM
I was close to trade my Vaptor for Caparison Angelus M3B but it wasn't a perfect deal for me. Especially because I own enough guitars and I fucking need that Ric...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Metal and Beer on October 17, 2014, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: jibberish on October 14, 2014, 08:33:07 PM

M&B, BTW, why do reggae haters have marley pics?


On here specifically? I've only seen mine, and I assure you I'm no hater. I was a bit dismayed years ago at the backlash, I suspect jive turkeys like the beach junkies in Long Beach perhaps played a part in that, but in their defense they couldn't help being so....white ;)
   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 18, 2014, 01:14:31 AM
it seems like everyone here hates on marley.
have you ever jammed reggae? it's all about the bass. I made up one reggae song. little a minor thing, but it is fun to play. reggae is powerful shit.

also, in the day we followed I-tal all around n ohio and kent was sort of their home area. whole different groove at a reggae show. powerful shit. I really grew to like the genre between that and marley. I don't dig marley when he gets all religious mellow. so I am more into kaya (hey haha) and exodus than the really early stuff.

edit: been trying to get the keyboards going again. I think xmas carols may be the grease. I know the songs super cold, just like everyone else not in isis does. this lets me focus on chord articulation and making both fucking hands do what they are supposed to do and never mind what the other one is doing. feel like a tard tangled in a slinky sometimes

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 19, 2014, 03:37:28 AM
I'm by no means a big Marley fan but the stuff Lee Perry produced in I believe the early '70s is fantastic.
Play this on a stereo and bump the bass, it's nuts. And the music is really good.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 19, 2014, 06:57:30 PM
Prophet 600 is still in the shop.  May not be the IC in question but something about a DAC not calibrating or some Greek shit.  I'm super anxious to get it back because of the os/processor upgrade.  I kind of figured he might find something else wrong as I've noticed some glitches when playing it.  Hopefully it's soon.  Not like I don't have other stuff to entertain me. :P
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 19, 2014, 07:25:07 PM
anyone have an opinion on 12" speakers for bass??.
obviously 10s and 15s are the norm. had my eye on an eden 2x12 cab..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 19, 2014, 08:51:25 PM
Eden is bass stuff right?  Is the cab empty?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 20, 2014, 01:37:35 PM
its this cab here. 15s are too woofy for the sound im going for. I like a tight punchy trebly bass sound..lots of highs and mids and growl. the 10s work well [my 4x10 ampeg is great], just trying to figure out if I should go with another 4x10 or it the 2x12 would give me something a little different while still retaining my core sound..
(http://www.edenamps.com/products/dseries/cabs/images/D212XST.png)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 20, 2014, 04:34:39 PM
One and half an hour of jamming. It was great. Now we need a vocalist :D

And I need better fuzzbox than Big Muff.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 20, 2014, 05:04:11 PM
12s will do it, Mort. Im gonna switch to Mesa guitar 4x12s for bass.
Title: Re:
Post by: mortlock on October 20, 2014, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on October 20, 2014, 05:04:11 PM
12s will do it, Mort. Im gonna switch to Mesa guitar 4x12s for bass.
damn..that sounds pretty cool. I bet that will be sick, of course anything mesa is going to sound awesome. the 2x12 eden is like 35 or 40 lbs lighter than the eden 4x10. never cared about that shit before, but as you all know..it means something to me now. 5" gash and 10 staples later..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 21, 2014, 02:29:57 AM
Bass 12s and guitar 12s should sound completely different.. no? This one old prog rock wizard bass player still uses guitar 12s as far as I know though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on October 21, 2014, 08:51:42 AM
Different speakers sound different to each other. Diameter has little to no bearing on how speakers sound.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 21, 2014, 09:05:33 AM
I mean, you're going to have a hard time blowing up eight twelves of the guitar variety. Long as the numbers are in line with how you're playing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 21, 2014, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on October 21, 2014, 08:51:42 AM
Different speakers sound different to each other. Diameter has little to no bearing on how speakers sound.
im not trying to argue, just trying to understand..if diameter has no bearing on how speakers sound, then why are there different size speakers.
I once read that a 10" speaker has a faster attack and response than a 15..giving it a 'punchier' sound. true?? not true??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 21, 2014, 03:06:01 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 21, 2014, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on October 21, 2014, 08:51:42 AM
Different speakers sound different to each other. Diameter has little to no bearing on how speakers sound.
im not trying to argue, just trying to understand..if diameter has no bearing on how speakers sound, then why are there different size speakers.
I once read that a 10" speaker has a faster attack and response than a 15..giving it a 'punchier' sound. true?? not true??
i'm thinking of an analogy to shed light.

if a boeing 737 has bigger wings than a Cessna two seater and can fly faster, then obviously an F-15 with smaller wings also cannot fly faster than the 737.
ahhhh, different engines/motors. different masses and sizes/ratings of other things. the possibilities are wide.

stereo speakers is only one form of speaker. guitar cab is another. iso-baric subwoofer is another. all can be any size you want.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 21, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
I guess ill accept that, but I still feel like the size of a speaker does factor into the equation somewhere. I know cab design, sealed, not sealed. baffles, ports etc.. all matter but when I play through a 2x15 cab, it sounds different than a 4x10 cab. cant just be the cab design. the speakers must have something to do with it..no??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on October 21, 2014, 08:14:43 PM
I took apart my whole rig and really, really debating on selling my amp.  Effects I'm keeping.  I want something different, something that can go different watts.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 22, 2014, 01:27:06 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 21, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
I guess ill accept that, but I still feel like the size of a speaker does factor into the equation somewhere. I know cab design, sealed, not sealed. baffles, ports etc.. all matter but when I play through a 2x15 cab, it sounds different than a 4x10 cab. cant just be the cab design. the speakers must have something to do with it..no??

you bet. generally 15's are weaker if you will. they have more mass and less engine power. 10's with the same size engine would definitely snap more. a 6", to me is the highest definition woofer there is for home stereo BUT no full bottom end.  everything is a tradeoff.

in general, if you have smaller cones, they can be made more rigid too. but small cones don't move much air.  like 3  6" woofers have the same cone area as one 10"
the home speaker people figured out that several different speakers combined was the best way to get full range reproduction.
in generating music, you are generating the sound, so anything goes.

ok, IF those 2 15's have lower resonant frequencies, and have about the same sized engine as one of th 10's, they will be smoother and darker due to slower transient response and ringing at lower frequencies. the 10's, while having maybe less cone surface have 2x the engines snapping those cones.

then the cabinets affect the overall sound some more. there are truly a ton of variables here
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 22, 2014, 07:13:15 AM
Quote from: jibberish on October 22, 2014, 01:27:06 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 21, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
I guess ill accept that, but I still feel like the size of a speaker does factor into the equation somewhere. I know cab design, sealed, not sealed. baffles, ports etc.. all matter but when I play through a 2x15 cab, it sounds different than a 4x10 cab. cant just be the cab design. the speakers must have something to do with it..no??

you bet. generally 15's are weaker if you will. they have more mass and less engine power. 10's with the same size engine would definitely snap more. a 6", to me is the highest definition woofer there is for home stereo BUT no full bottom end.  everything is a tradeoff.

in general, if you have smaller cones, they can be made more rigid too. but small cones don't move much air.  like 3  6" woofers have the same cone area as one 10"
the home speaker people figured out that several different speakers combined was the best way to get full range reproduction.
in generating music, you are generating the sound, so anything goes.

ok, IF those 2 15's have lower resonant frequencies, and have about the same sized engine as one of th 10's, they will be smoother and darker due to slower transient response and ringing at lower frequencies. the 10's, while having maybe less cone surface have 2x the engines snapping those cones.

then the cabinets affect the overall sound some more. there are truly a ton of variables here


This is pretty accurate, good info.  Good post jib.

Yeah, 15's move more air.  They generally also need more wattage to move that air and really push the deep lows, thus they can sound weak. That's why bass amps generally have more watts than guitar amps, lower frequencies need more power.

10's in my experience are punchier and have more definition.

My favorite sounding bass cab configuration is a 4x10 combined with a 1x15.  Best of both worlds, if you will...

Then it's just a matter of finding the right 10's and 15's for the specific sound you're going for.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 22, 2014, 05:20:26 PM
Been playing more guitar all week.

After my hands/forearms/fingers hurting for a few days after Ocean of Stars rehearsals last week, I've realized I need to play guitar more, specifically this music.

Already feeling results. 2 days ago playing a barred A chord was killing me. Now not so much.

Will continue this regimen as much as I can.

I play bass all the time. But I don't want to half-ass playing guitar, especially on my own damn music...!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on October 22, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
During the jam i mentioned before, bassist was playing on Ampeg 810 fridge. Fuck, that cab is absolutely stunning.

And surprisingly lightweight :D

BTW Sunno))) I sent you the files.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 22, 2014, 11:06:01 PM
I stumbled upon baer amps today.. they look cool as fuck. anyone know about this brand.?? somehow they have slipped under my radar until now.  
http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html (http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 22, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 22, 2014, 11:06:01 PM
I stumbled upon baer amps today.. they look cool as fuck. anyone know about this brand.?? somehow they have slipped under my radar until now.  
http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html (http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html)

AMPLIFIERS:
VLK-1   VALKYRIE Bass Amplifier   $1,999.00      

SPEAKER CABINETS:
ML112   ML112 Cabinet   $750.00      
ML115   ML115 Cabinet   $899.00      
ML212   ML212 Cabinet   $999.00   


:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 23, 2014, 12:07:29 AM
8x10s with built in tilt-casters look deceptively bulky, but are really well designed for moving them around
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 23, 2014, 12:11:55 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 22, 2014, 11:53:35 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 22, 2014, 11:06:01 PM
I stumbled upon baer amps today.. they look cool as fuck. anyone know about this brand.?? somehow they have slipped under my radar until now.  
http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html (http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html)

AMPLIFIERS:
VLK-1   VALKYRIE Bass Amplifier   $1,999.00      

SPEAKER CABINETS:
ML112   ML112 Cabinet   $750.00      
ML115   ML115 Cabinet   $899.00      
ML212   ML212 Cabinet   $999.00   


:o :o :o
no wonder why I like them.. haha. expensive taste. fuck..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on October 23, 2014, 06:33:35 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 22, 2014, 11:06:01 PM
I stumbled upon baer amps today.. they look cool as fuck. anyone know about this brand.?? somehow they have slipped under my radar until now.  
http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html (http://www.baeramplification.com/index.html)
Not familiar with the brand but those cabs look similar to the FearFul designs and it looks very similar to the Bergantino NV115.  Funny thing is the Bergantino and this Baer are about the same price with similar power handling but have different frequency responses.  I'd go with the Bergantino though personally can't go wrong with Bergs or Epifani (I have an Epifani PS115 SOUNDS AMAZING and is loud as hell will easy dwarf a guitar with a 4x12).  My understanding of that type of design though is that it is comperable in volume to a 4x10 and two of those 2 way 15 setups can be louder then a fridge if the right drivers are used.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 23, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
all for not really, way out of my price range.. cant spend 750 one a 1x12..not including tax and shipping. all their stuff is factory direct. ill prolly just stick with ampeg. ive always loved my ampeg 4x10..fuck it..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on October 23, 2014, 08:10:11 PM
your dirt pedals are gonna effect the trebly gnarl of your sound more than the speakers, i'd bet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 23, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
Ocean of Stars sax player came over today. Have two new songs we're working into the set, both more intricate than anything we've done (I started off with simpler songs first)

Wow. This is going to sound amazing once it's all put together. He's an awesome player and picks things up quick. Even the weird shit I'm throwing at him!

#stoked
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on October 24, 2014, 06:31:19 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 23, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
all for not really, way out of my price range.. cant spend 750 one a 1x12..not including tax and shipping. all their stuff is factory direct. ill prolly just stick with ampeg. ive always loved my ampeg 4x10..fuck it..
If you read the talkbass threads on the whole crossover thing the 2 way with a 15 and midrange driver setup is supposedly significantly louder then a 4x10 although I can't vouch for this personally.  The nice thing about those kind of cab setups is with the dedicated low end driver they are usually able to produce lower frequencies so for doom/sludge and heavy downtuning you can get the low B and below to sound much clearer. 

I agree with you totally those Baers and the Bergantinos are a little too expensive but if you still wanted to try something like that I'd say the cheapest way to get one of these is the Avatar TB153 and or if you're handy you could make one yourself for much cheaper.  Depending on where you live I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't someone on this board that would be up for building one for you.  Or you could try to find a used Carvin LS1503 which would run $150ish and replace the drivers.  Or a used SWR triad for 300$ish.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 24, 2014, 08:42:28 AM
Quote from: Danny G on October 23, 2014, 10:57:00 PM
Ocean of Stars sax player came over today. Have two new songs we're working into the set, both more intricate than anything we've done (I started off with simpler songs first)

Wow. This is going to sound amazing once it's all put together. He's an awesome player and picks things up quick. Even the weird shit I'm throwing at him!

#stoked
i'm stoked for you too.   if you want any keyboard/synth pieces parts made for stuff, I basically learned classical style lessons and fuck around with chords mostly. I have a good grasp of arranging and music comp so I can do violin section fills n shit, or cosmic shit....if you want......some day....maybe.....haha.

Gchris, that sounds like a fun project.   the crossover can be as simple as one cap and one coil for a 2 way system.  I like the idea.

if anyone ever remembers the classic Altec-Lansing "voice of theater" bass horn loaded boxes with a big mid/tweet horn. those could get so fucking loud. they were big, but the volume they put out was sick. long time ago, those were everywhere.
I would keep half an eye peeled for someone throwing a pair of those away. those are enough to be a decent club PA alone. they thunder bass too and are pretty efficient. so 200w/ch rms could open them up pretty nicely.

why doesn't anyone use like those class D crown sl1500(iknow that's a TT model, but it's something like that)type stereo PA amp that is like 350w/ch into 8 ohms..500or so into 4 and stable into reactive bass loads. they weigh 10 lbs with that class d magnetic switching voodoo. I don't see any difference between one of those and some big bass amp except way more power for way cheaper. you can get used Godzilla sized power amps for $300 or so  like from craigslist.  like 1000w/ch beasts, from like QSC/peavey/C-V/crown etc.

avoid the offbrands for way too cheap. they are noisy, distorted, with wussy power supplies

anyway, you could punish people more for less $ with big cheap amps. what about a set of DJ PA speakers. I saw these big JBL twin 15's with a horn for highs on CL. they were tall too. a 1000w/ch amp and those for $1000 total I bet could rip the face off of any fridge setup

edit: hey ohhh! ^ there is one mean synth rig too. yowsa!

editz: I never made a demo before. but this is a keyboard thing on some random stock synth patch that I just made up as I went along, then tried to end it nicely once I ran out of ideas. it was an attempt to get a dark bach/debussey feel and I think it worked pretty well for a total fake job.  anyway, this kind of crap...
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/fantasyandfudgeincminor1amp[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 24, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
^ I bought an 800 watt 2 channel power amp for $180 brand new. It won't put the full 800 into two 8 ohm cabs though because each channel is 400 max at 4 ohms. Perfect for two 4s or a monster handling 8.


Changing the subject, some of these cab companies must get insane deals on speakers because sometimes they will sell you the whole deal for less than what you'd pay just for the speakers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 25, 2014, 12:11:41 PM
Kurt Cobain used a Crown Power Amp for guitar.

They're loud, though I think people don't prefer them for instruments because they aren't as "colorful", their circuitry doesn't produce a tone that we find as pleasant to our ears...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on October 25, 2014, 03:32:16 PM
He did use a OG Tech 21 for his tone and the power amp for volume. So that helps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 25, 2014, 04:02:09 PM
I think a lot of it is the preamp you use. I've said this before on here but a friend of mine has a Mesa 'Studio' and it sounds fantastic even into class D power amps. Rich, sweet, and dynamic. Any good tube head signal should sound pretty good into SS power amps and on a real stage you can always mic the cab the tube amp is powering.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on October 25, 2014, 04:43:23 PM
First rehearsal with my EHX Memory Toy, it's a need little unit. Does what I want it to do but I need to dial in it a bit more. I think I know now why an FX Loop with a delay in it might be useful. It gets noisy and spacey with my fuzzes engaged which I like although a clearer signal would be nice for some other sounds. The rehearsal went smoothly and we got our set pretty tight. One more rehearsal monday evening and tuesday first show. Nervous and excited at the same time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on October 25, 2014, 05:27:53 PM
Quote from: MichaelZodiac on October 25, 2014, 04:43:23 PM
First rehearsal with my EHX Memory Toy, it's a need little unit. Does what I want it to do but I need to dial in it a bit more. I think I know now why an FX Loop with a delay in it might be useful. It gets noisy and spacey with my fuzzes engaged which I like although a clearer signal would be nice for some other sounds. The rehearsal went smoothly and we got our set pretty tight. One more rehearsal monday evening and tuesday first show. Nervous and excited at the same time.

I used one of those for awhile, and it is a neat little pedal.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 27, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
guitar center is sort of a doofus operation, but the employees are top notch.   they just helped me score that little fender 2x10 12w tube combo for the sale price of 229 because the flyer said so. the whole world wanted to get me for $400 but they got it for the good price. just have to wait for it to show up from Paramus NJ.
that combo is sick. it has a nice spring reverb and the vaporizer switch that bypasses the volume and tone stack and just goes full out

so I grabbed a malekko 616 delay feeling all cash save-ee and everything.  
so rager, I don't want your malekko anymore...
so send it to danny G instead....
so what...

edit: and I always wear my black arts shirt to GC just to rub it in that they don't have those.

also I played with that ehx B9. pretty cool, but then I remembered that I have synths that do organ sounds and that ehx sound is still a compromised synthesized sound

there is an older reverb called the trinity which I need to play with.  GC doesn't have it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 27, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
Do you folks generally try not to book gigs the same nights as other heavy/metal shows happening locally? How similar do the shows have to be for you to pass on a date? Obviously in big cities with bigger scenes this would be pretty hard to avoid but in a small city splitting the crowd can be very bad for shows. Not that there is one crowd that goes to all stoner/doom/death/heavy/metal/etc shows.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 28, 2014, 03:26:21 AM
some day I will get to have booking woes
some day I will have a band
the problem is, I can't lock into a single genre. I want to play all kinds of stuff.
i'm thinking about a concept called "super geezer" and just do shitkicking stuff from any genre I choose...idk..fuck..


gear wisdom story:
a while back I got a beatstep sequencer to get some bleep bloop going. whilst shopping, I saw everyone sold it for $100, but B&H threw in cheap headphones and a MIDI cable, so I got that. I figured then I could give the phones to my nephew since they are better than nothing.

so when the stuff showed up, I audition the phones which feel as cheap as possibly imaginable, but they actually were super comfy. I played a stereo source and about threw away the phones. I have never heard so much inherent distortion in headphone drivers, ever. not even the cheapest earbuds were this fuzzy sounding.

later, I was going to practice keyboards, so I figured that those shit phones were comfy and had a long cord, so wtf.  well to my surprise, these sound super rich and smooth with just synth.  they actually sound better than detailed phones.   I can use them for tracking since you just have to hear enough to stay in time/tune.

before I would have summarily tossed those as trash. but now they actually have value.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on October 28, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 27, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
Do you folks generally try not to book gigs the same nights as other heavy/metal shows happening locally? How similar do the shows have to be for you to pass on a date? Obviously in big cities with bigger scenes this would be pretty hard to avoid but in a small city splitting the crowd can be very bad for shows. Not that there is one crowd that goes to all stoner/doom/death/heavy/metal/etc shows.

In the mid-range market that we play in. (900,000+) it sometimes makes small difference in attendance, but generally I think the national shows are attended by a lot of underage folks (we mainly play clubs, performance spaces and that ilk) who wouldn't be at a club. It seems the majority of 21 and up people, when given the choice, opt out for a club show. Cheaper, less of a mosh-crowd, easier and cheaper access to booze. Often the national act shows finish up around the time the second band in a club are hitting the boards and folks will migrate to the club for the rest of the night.

As far as competing local shows, try to include a band on your bill that has a "following" (7-13 people that will usually show up for them). That and if possible, appeal to people's wallets and try to have the cover at your show a few bucks lower than the competition. Marketing is key when vying for a few extra bodies and a few extra frogskins at your show.


*edited for current population stats
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 28, 2014, 02:30:36 PM
Quote from: black on October 28, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
As far as competing local shows, try to include a band on your bill that has a "following" (7-13 people that will usually show up for them). That and if possible, appeal to people's wallets and try to have the cover at your show a few bucks lower than the competition. Marketing is key when vying for a few extra bodies and a few extra frogskins at your show.

I'm in agreement here. Most Orogen shows were $5 or maybe $7 even with out of towns bands or underground touring bands.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 30, 2014, 01:46:04 AM
it's 1:22 AM. getting the day started. where is liquid? need a liquid post to ponder when I take a break. the brutha knows how to hook a brain up with something to chew on.

ok, so yeah, 1st buzz is the doozy.

I am on a new rant.  this beater schecter I got as a backup is turning out to be a really nice sounding guitar. and I hear more after I play it through something new each time.
this guitar likes tube amps better than any other guitar I have except maybe the blackface tele which also has humbuckers. the other guitars, especially the LP's usually need tweaking or just sounds meh through certain setups.

I hear more of a rich lower range, like if you could imagine what a baritone tele would sort of sound like. anyway, this really offsets the rinky-tink sound you can easily get with little tube amps.  
it is that low end schecter line. it is called a Damien-6.  boring like industrial flat finish. all black with passive EMG's no clue on model, and simple bridge and string-thru. tight tuners, kind of a wider feeling neck than like tele/LP/ultra-swede, but very playable. dense heavy body.  
it was a bitch to play at first because you cant see the fret markers very well. after a while you don't have to look so much, but stillm gets hairy on long jumps.
it has subtle, but really nice flying bat inlays. I wish I could show those off better. I never even noticed the details until I got the thing home from GC. really subtle.

anyway, this thing with its string thru and passive emg's sounds big/forward/rich idk the terms to use. nice is a good one.
oh, yeah it sounds suberb thru the pharaoh with the clip off and the tones all chilled at about 12oclock. I found the fun setup to play my Halloween gadget tune(changed the words of boot scootin boogie to cloven hoof boogie, I hate those 2 bastards for ripping off the stroll, so I am going to fuck them by fucking their song and making it famous. muahahaaa haaa)

anyway so fuzzbox country. no. not country,. they ripped off the stroll. that is more mo-town or soul or whatever category of gadgets like "the twist" are put in
ok ...the stroll. a staple at weddings when I was a little kid. too small to participate so I watched.

this shit:


edit: I should practice my Halloween gadget tune...tis the season. it's fun. I get to make a ton of noises and sounds and different voices and sing like bela Lugosi style, and even stole his famous quote. it is all there. wolf howls, zombie gargles. secret hamina hamina's...all there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 30, 2014, 04:35:52 AM
A liquid post, okay. I don't have the best impression of Carvin bass amps but their prices are really good for being US made. It looks like they've switched entirely to class D and I'm wondering how these units are holding up for people.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 30, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Can you please just buy a massive crown poweramp, put a rack mount sansamp in it, and play that? Sub-400$ rig there.
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 30, 2014, 12:22:22 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on October 30, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Can you please just buy a massive crown poweramp, put a rack mount sansamp in it, and play that? Sub-400$ rig there.

Sounds like Florida used prices. Which Sansamp model? Links?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 30, 2014, 02:20:09 PM
Ocean of Stars rehearsal last night. Posted from my laptop, as Tapatalk wants me to upgrade to iOS8 in order to use the latest Tapatalk update. Fuckin fuckers.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10408053_311964549004526_2596682261593082567_n.jpg?oh=80ff3745cbf818c6fe01dbb1f55200aa&oe=54F8411B&__gda__=1420757447_8a2e21e3b1649a46cbf0613a60c8a0e4)

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 02:56:09 AM
^ there it is in the last pic..theee bass cab.
ps get that iceman off the floor before someone steps on it
/yellingatnephewmode


band name idea:     filthy muslin scumbags

and guest starring:  I slam you slam

Mortay, you up for it? we dress like  jihadji babas and burka boys( and girls if we are lucky enough to recruit wimmens)

we sell little sand bags with our band logo as merch and other very creative merch

IED candy, ..life is like a box of chocolates, you never know which one has the dave's insanity sauce in it.


edit:  I keep hearing that class D amps are stable into low freq reactive loads. they just cant push mega current.
the idea of 1000+watts in a 10 pound package is really nice tho.
I purposely did not buy class d because I don't know how I will load these amps as I use them.
but if I know I was only running 4-8 ohms always, I sure would have had some by now. the amps I have all weigh more like 30-40#. this is a drag at times.

carvin makes nice guitars.  I got to check a high school buddy's carvin out. I liked it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 31, 2014, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 02:56:09 AM
get that iceman off the floor before someone steps on it
/yellingatnephewmode




Yes sir. Had a guitar stand in my cord box, was too lazy to set it up...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 31, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 02:56:09 AM
^ there it is in the last pic..theee bass cab.
ps get that iceman off the floor before someone steps on it
/yellingatnephewmode


band name idea:     filthy muslin scumbags

and guest starring:  I slam you slam

Mortay, you up for it? we dress like  jihadji babas and burka boys( and girls if we are lucky enough to recruit wimmens)

we sell little sand bags with our band logo as merch and other very creative merch

IED candy, ..life is like a box of chocolates, you never know which one has the dave's insanity sauce in it.

Please don't?

Quote from: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 02:56:09 AM
edit:  I keep hearing that class D amps are stable into low freq reactive loads. they just cant push mega current.
the idea of 1000+watts in a 10 pound package is really nice tho.
I purposely did not buy class d because I don't know how I will load these amps as I use them.
but if I know I was only running 4-8 ohms always, I sure would have had some by now. the amps I have all weigh more like 30-40#. this is a drag at times.

I'm not sure what you mean by they can't push mega current. 1000 watts is 1000 watts right? The weight is very nice. My 100 watt Fender tube head weighs 60 pounds. My 350 watt Fender SS head is about 7. This talk probably annoys people though, sorry big strong dudes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 31, 2014, 03:25:31 PM
heh. It's like the blind leading typing at the blind...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 31, 2014, 03:36:24 PM
I'm generally happy to amuse.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 04:15:01 PM
1000 volts pushing 1 amp=1000watts
1 volt pushing 1000 amps = 1000watts

so no, watts aren't just watts.  let's see that class d amp run car subs. it will melt.

transformers are what make amps heavy.  tube amps have 2 so they can be extra heavy
class d uses some magnetic HF voodoo to get the power into the circuit thus eliminating the big toroidal power transformer.


these are not stable into 2 ohms because they cant put out the current. 100watts into 2 ohms needs I*I*R or about 7 amps.
into 8 ohms it only needs 3 ish amps to get that same 100watts output.

btw, ignore the static. you are learning things.
ps, I type all kinds of fun/fantastic/ridiculous ideas all the time.   it's what I do heh.  however, I am way too lazy to do 99% of what I talk about.
slinging ideas is free, so wtf, sling away, that's what I say.

Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Eh, I've been over responding to technical questions from dude for like two years now. It isn't even fun anymore.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
well, evidently you are too good for everyone else, so you have to just live with the curse of having everyone beneath you.
if I were you, I would immediately quit associating with anyone here, permanently. ruin your image.
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so I started a small riot in GC today. grabbed the single coil tele and fired up that vaporizer right on the floor. I had everyone in the store over there. that thing is so fucking loud for 12 watts. unreal. the bite and snap of that tele was nice and that old school spring tank is great.

so now I guess I have to go back and get that tele.
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 31, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Eh, I've been over responding to technical questions from dude for like two years now. It isn't even fun anymore.

"No don't get that $500 all in one head, get a massive Crown power amp and Tascam rack preamp, sigh, no I'm not going to tell you where you can get a $300-400 rack pre for a hundred bucks, you never learn anything and ignore everything we tell you to do"
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 04:26:04 PMwell, evidently you are too good for everyone else, so you have to just live with the curse of having everyone beneath you.
if I were you, I would immediately quit associating with anyone here, permanently. ruin your image.
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so I started a small riot in GC today. grabbed the single coil tele and fired up that vaporizer right on the floor. I had everyone in the store over there. that thing is so fucking loud for 12 watts. unreal. the bite and snap of that tele was nice and that old school spring tank is great.

so now I guess I have to go back and get that tele.
K, blow me.

Hartkes are commonly horse shit.

Would you like me to google, ebay, Craigslist fucking thing for you? Seriously? Sansamp bass DI used as a preamp for your bass side, and a big power amp. Who cares what kind, for fucks sake.


If you can't find the fucking rack version, get the pedal. Jesus christ.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 31, 2014, 05:29:33 PM
Why are you so angry? I just thought you might have a specific recommendation. 'Who cares what kind'? This entire forum is pretty concerned with 'what kind' when it comes to gear. Just stop responding to my posts if you are that annoyed with me for fucks sake.

One minute you are a 'whatever works who cares' type and the next you are bashing specific pieces of gear as you just did that Hartke which many bass players love and find very reliable.

edit: I suspect that the newer style Bass Driver DI pedal with the line level output signal option would probably work well for me into a power amp. I currently have the older version without this option. Might trade up. I have not had good luck running instrument level signals into power amps in the past, not quite loud enough. If that's ridiculous then tons of amazing bands are also ridiculous for playing so loud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on October 31, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
I have a Crest Pro-Lite 2.0 Class D stereo power amp and a GK MB800 head that's Class D powered. Both very good quality sound, reliable and very loud. Also have and do have plenty of big iron and tube stuff. There's good and crap in all varieties, no single technology is just bad or good. You just have to pick what finds the balance of your technical requirements, personal taste and budget, like every other consumer decision. Having not been in a full time band for a few years and having lots of time to record and play with different tone ideas, I've found several ways to get the same result. There's no wrong answers, you can usually always make what you have work with a good ear, a creative mind and some patience. It's usually just a matter of getting the result you want quicker (more tuned to your end result right away, usually more expensive), cheaper (takes more time to setup and dial in, probably have to hunt around for good deals used and be patient) or more conveniently (lighter, smaller, more flexible, all-in-one, whatever).

No need to argue or get personal about gear. It's not like there's a right answer, unless you're going to talk about specifics of electrical engineering. I leave that stuff to Nick.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 06:51:54 PM
Dime out poweramp, control volume from Sansamp... If it has the XLR DI, the 1/4 jack will drive a poweramp just fine. I've done it A LOT because sometimes I like a bunch of clean power for guitar (so i use class D and a sansamp.)

It's just annoying. You act like a lost sheep, and you have been "tone questing" for fucking years now. You had to have learned something or tried some shit without the advising of us buncha fucking scrubs. You will sound literally as good, or as shitty as you want. You just have to fucking try stuff. Blow up an amp, fry a speaker, it's all part of it. Something doesn't work out? Try another thing. At what point are YOU going to take over? Buy that fucking hartke, play it, if you hate it, sell it at all loss like every single person here has done for years. You have numerous times ignored solid advice from solid dudes, and come straight back here to ask for more advice you'll fucking ignore. So, i guess im wrong in a way, you are doing your own thing, just after wasting the breath of others even though you already had your mind made up.



And, jibb, you can eat a fat dick with your shit, just because you're amused by the same post over and over again doesn't make it fun for everyone else.
Title: Re:
Post by: Corey Y on October 31, 2014, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 06:51:54 PM
Dime out poweramp, control volume from Sansamp... If it has the XLR DI, the 1/4 jack will drive a poweramp just fine. I've done it A LOT because sometimes I like a bunch of clean power for guitar (so i use class D and a sansamp.)

This is what I do with my Dunwich bass preamp or my Tech 21 Character series pedals for guitar sometimes. Dime out the power amp, use the volume of the preamp for overall volume and use pedals for dirt. I also typically run amps with lots of clean (or cleanish) headroom and use a lot of dirt pedals for gain.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
Yep, it's a solid practice, Corey. How's your big dunwich?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 31, 2014, 07:01:51 PM
Having an XLR out available for venues with actual stages and sound people would be nice. I might just sell my old DI and get the newer type.


Quote from: Corey Y on October 31, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
I have a Crest Pro-Lite 2.0 Class D stereo power amp and a GK MB800 head that's Class D powered. Both very good quality sound, reliable and very loud. Also have and do have plenty of big iron and tube stuff. There's good and crap in all varieties, no single technology is just bad or good. You just have to pick what finds the balance of your technical requirements, personal taste and budget, like every other consumer decision. Having not been in a full time band for a few years and having lots of time to record and play with different tone ideas, I've found several ways to get the same result. There's no wrong answers, you can usually always make what you have work with a good ear, a creative mind and some patience. It's usually just a matter of getting the result you want quicker (more tuned to your end result right away, usually more expensive), cheaper (takes more time to setup and dial in, probably have to hunt around for good deals used and be patient) or more conveniently (lighter, smaller, more flexible, all-in-one, whatever).

No need to argue or get personal about gear. It's not like there's a right answer, unless you're going to talk about specifics of electrical engineering. I leave that stuff to Nick.

Thanks for the post Corey, wise and level headed as usual. I was kind of getting lured in by the Hartke tube pre but pure SS generally sounds fine for bass or when running guitars into bass cabs.
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 31, 2014, 07:09:33 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 06:51:54 PM
It's just annoying. You act like a lost sheep, and you have been "tone questing" for fucking years now. You had to have learned something or tried some shit without the advising of us buncha fucking scrubs. You will sound literally as good, or as shitty as you want. You just have to fucking try stuff. Blow up an amp, fry a speaker, it's all part of it. Something doesn't work out? Try another thing. At what point are YOU going to take over? Buy that fucking hartke, play it, if you hate it, sell it at all loss like every single person here has done for years. You have numerous times ignored solid advice from solid dudes, and come straight back here to ask for more advice you'll fucking ignore. So, i guess im wrong in a way, you are doing your own thing, just after wasting the breath of others even though you already had your mind made up.

I'm trying to skip the blowing shit up part. Tone quest for years, yup, for guitar, but now for the first time in my life I'm trying to put together a bass rig for a new 2 piece band. My main problem has been asking too many questions on here and not Google searching enough for basic information(much of which many musicians are clueless about because they've been using the same small simple gear in rock bands for years). You're so right about ignoring advice considering that at the moment I'm thinking a line level Bass Driver DI into a Crown power amp is probably a good and economical route to go. But you go on believing that I haven't learned a thing from anyone on this forum.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
I have no clue what you are even talking about sunno. i'm trying to get shit done. i'm not sure what your agenda is.
I do know you are calling names and being insulting here in the jamroom MODERATOR. you seem to be the only one slinging shit


....again

w/e.  you do you. have fun. i'm not really going to worry about you and your issues.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on October 31, 2014, 07:15:58 PM
There's so many great ways to get any kind of tone with any kind of gear at this point. Conversations about one type of gear vs another is just wasting time that could be used to make loud noises. We're really living in a golden age of great sounding gear. You can get so many sounds, so loudly, so cheaply...or you can get something made custom to your exact specifications, cloned from any era or completely new and unique. Anyone who gives you any bullpucky about using any kind of particular gear is just being grumpy and wants to argue. I've known so many cool people who've made great sounds with gear other people scoffed at, because they could never get it to sound halfway decent or couldn't conceive of how to. I'm not saying tone is all in the fingers (because acoustic sounds are boring to me :P), but there's hardly any such thing as a bad sounding piece of gear, just one that does't meet your needs...and there's a lot of ways to make a lot of things meet your needs.

The number one thing I'm always pushing myself to do (because I need the push) is to stop theorizing and make things. Think about, weigh the options, but put one foot in front of the other and go before too long. Try out pieces of gear, come up with wacky ideas, but DO it. Just do it and if it doesn't work, do it again a different way. If you theorize too long with online conversations, you'll circle around to a new idea and keep repeating until you never actually put the rig together. I've definitely been guilty of this at times, it's tempting to always try to find a way to reinvent the wheel, but if you never start driving what's the point?
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 31, 2014, 07:24:44 PM
LOL I don't understand why you think because people are mods they can't get angry, or have opinions, or post derisive shit. Cloud 9, fool, I ain't no cop, I've been posting amongst you fuckers the better part of a decade. Don't think a moderator title will stop me from doing a fucking thing.


LS, my point is, do some shit for yourself. No amount of advice or google searching will substitute for real lifr experiences with the equipment. I've sounded like absolute dogshit with tight equipment, and amazing with bullshit equipment. All experimenting. I've bought, broken, and sold so much shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 31, 2014, 08:12:35 PM
Quote from: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 02:56:09 AM
^ there it is in the last pic..theee bass cab.
ps get that iceman off the floor before someone steps on it
/yellingatnephewmode


band name idea:     filthy muslin scumbags

and guest starring:  I slam you slam

Mortay, you up for it? we dress like  jihadji babas and burka boys( and girls if we are lucky enough to recruit wimmens)

we sell little sand bags with our band logo as merch and other very creative merch

IED candy, ..life is like a box of chocolates, you never know which one has the dave's insanity sauce in it.


edit:  I keep hearing that class D amps are stable into low freq reactive loads. they just cant push mega current.
the idea of 1000+watts in a 10 pound package is really nice tho.
I purposely did not buy class d because I don't know how I will load these amps as I use them.
but if I know I was only running 4-8 ohms always, I sure would have had some by now. the amps I have all weigh more like 30-40#. this is a drag at times.

carvin makes nice guitars.  I got to check a high school buddy's carvin out. I liked it.
no one loves religion bashing more than me. im in. i love the idea of the ied candy. fucking wish i thought of that for halloween tonight. damn it..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 31, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
I'm definitely all about the sound itself, no matter how it's created. All we are doing is moving air.

I do plenty myself, I just don't like buying completely wrong gear and I've done too much of that already.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 31, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
liquidsmoke..what is the new 2-pc band like?? what are you guys going for soundwise??
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 31, 2014, 10:23:25 PM
Ugh. Here's a situation.

Booked to play with Adrian and the Sickness in San Angelo next Friday. Have been approached by a reputable red dirt artist who needs a bass player. Great pay, pro as fuck.

Turns out current bassist getting shitcanned after tonight's gig. They need someone for next Friday.

I'm booked, Adrian doesn't have a sub. Red dirt artist has another candidate who can do the show. If he does well, the gig may be his.

I can't miss that opportunity, and Adrian doesn't have a sub. I don't want to fuck her out of a show, but can't lose this opportunity either.

Sending red dirt artist videos of me playing live to sweeten the deal even if I can't make their show next Friday. They want a rocker, and the video evidence I am providing is proof-positive that rocking is what I fucking do.

Trying to use that to secure my spot with them, and still do Adrian's show.

Wrangling this situation shortly before heading to a venue to play. #stress

Fingers. Fucking. Crossed.

Fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 31, 2014, 10:44:04 PM
not to sound all harsh but look out for yourself. Adrian will have to understand.. its all business, nothing personal..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 01, 2014, 03:20:38 AM
 any chance of juggling stage times and do both?

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ok picture this mortay:

the wildly happening dirty muslin show hits a mid show break. we throw out surprise IED merch:
rolled up dirty muslin shirts. except we tell the crowd

"one of the shirts has a $100 bill rolled up in it and one has a big pissed off black widow rolled up in it.......

GO!"

edit: I kind of need to do a bulk shorty, like 3' maybe, 1/4" cable buy. I am short on cables again.
buying them at $5+ would be a ton of cash. I would rather buy them at $1.39 or something for 100 or w/e
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 01, 2014, 05:02:26 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 31, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
liquidsmoke..what is the new 2-pc band like?? what are you guys going for soundwise??

F# baritone into hyper/super fuzzes and drums, no vocals. Doom/stoner metal, nothing new or innovative at all. More stoner than Orogen for sure. Kind of Electric Wizard meets TAOSD HOF maybe. I just want to play heavy riffs. We should have a rough demo of one song up online in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on November 01, 2014, 06:50:25 AM
Jib, I've got 200 feet of instrument cable around here somewhere. You can have it if you front shopping. Then just order ends.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 01, 2014, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 01, 2014, 05:02:26 AM
Quote from: mortlock on October 31, 2014, 08:50:48 PM
liquidsmoke..what is the new 2-pc band like?? what are you guys going for soundwise??

F# baritone into hyper/super fuzzes and drums, no vocals. Doom/stoner metal, nothing new or innovative at all. More stoner than Orogen for sure. Kind of Electric Wizard meets TAOSD HOF maybe. I just want to play heavy riffs. We should have a rough demo of one song up online in the next couple of weeks.
sounds cool.. def want to check it out. ive often thought about doing a 2-pc and every time ive had a jam I end up feeling like its a raw demo recording missing the guitar tracks. ive always found it super hard to get any depth into the music with out the interplay of an additional stringed instrument wether it be guitar or another bass.. probably has more to do with me being a very 'foundational' bassist. I don't get too fancy with my playing..
Title: Re:
Post by: jibberish on November 01, 2014, 04:11:18 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on November 01, 2014, 06:50:25 AM
Jib, I've got 200 feet of instrument cable around here somewhere. You can have it if you front shopping. Then just order ends.

that's very kind. let me do some shopping for ends and bulk assembled ones to scope the range and see what my best play is first.

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what a day.  busy with basically zero sleep. I spent too much time all last night fucking with that lexicon reverb.  I'm repeating myself, but I never had such a clean sounding gadget.
I must have just dicked with the "large church" patch for 2 hours alone. 2700ms decay time haha. I never heard such shit. I ran everything but the kitchen sink thru that.
the fuzz just compounds the sickness, so I ran everything I could find that was cool with distortion thru the large church all over again 

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eat...sleep....sleep more....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 01, 2014, 04:21:59 PM
Quote from: mortlock on November 01, 2014, 02:15:24 PM
sounds cool.. def want to check it out. ive often thought about doing a 2-pc and every time ive had a jam I end up feeling like its a raw demo recording missing the guitar tracks. ive always found it super hard to get any depth into the music with out the interplay of an additional stringed instrument wether it be guitar or another bass.. probably has more to do with me being a very 'foundational' bassist. I don't get too fancy with my playing..

I hear ya there. Before you jam do you have some bass parts of songs partially done? I generally write songs on guitar on my own before playing them with bandmates because I am much more productive that way. My thinking with this band is that if the riffs are good enough the minimalism will be a good thing. I want to try to make the next round of songs more dynamic and complex but out of the gate I just went for super heavy. Southern WI has a number of new heavy 2 piece bands, most of whom I'm friends with. It's all sounding promising and I'm very much looking forward to hearing the next batch of songs from them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 02, 2014, 08:13:25 PM
I always just wing everything. those situations for me are extremely rare so no real prep goes in.. I hope you get something solid. what are the names of the bands in your area there you are referring to??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 02, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
ive been experiencing wrist and forearm pain recently. it seems to be mostly at the top of the wrist and it especially hurts when I bend my wrist up or down. I know its from playing bass. I try and warm up and stretch but its weird ive had lingering pain for a few weeks now, and I really haven't played much. I feel like it got worse since the hernia surg while ive had a period of not playing much..

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 02, 2014, 09:40:07 PM
remember to build yourself back up.  you might have stopped playing for awhile or not as intensely because of your surgery.  use a timer and only play for 30-45 minutes and then take a 4 minute break.  if you cant play that long, then play 20 minutes or so and add another 10 minutes every so often.  make sure your diet and stretching and excercise routines are right. maybe a specialist would help further or you just need to rest a few weeks and then build up.

good luck!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 02, 2014, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: mortlock on November 02, 2014, 08:13:25 PM
I always just wing everything. those situations for me are extremely rare so no real prep goes in.. I hope you get something solid. what are the names of the bands in your area there you are referring to??

Dos Males- Bongzilla singer/guitar player

Serpent Lung- bass, instrumental so far

Galactic Hatchet- Vega bass player, instrumental

Another guitar 2 piece is in the works which I've been told is more Celtic Frost/black metal sounding but I probably shouldn't say too much about that yet.

Also I think Aquilonion is going to be playing out again.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on November 03, 2014, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: mortlock on November 02, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
ive been experiencing wrist and forearm pain recently. it seems to be mostly at the top of the wrist and it especially hurts when I bend my wrist up or down. I know its from playing bass. I try and warm up and stretch but its weird ive had lingering pain for a few weeks now, and I really haven't played much. I feel like it got worse since the hernia surg while ive had a period of not playing much..


If you play fingerstyle and this pain is in your plucking hand this might be from bending your wrist over the top of the bass to pluck which you are not supposed to do.  If that's the case just raise the elbow and keep that wrist straight and you'll be good.  If its you're fretting hand your kinda SOL unless you are playing with your bass strung really low.

Just some thoughts.  Good luck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 03, 2014, 02:09:27 AM
you just have to do like me and be: "forthed to thop ibanetheth and thtilleto'th and muthic manth thinth you have limp writhtth"

wtf you doing l ron? gtf away. it was a joke. like what do you call l ron on his skateboard? rollaids. see a joke. that is a joke right? oh FFS quit trying to spit on me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 03, 2014, 10:56:08 PM
Quote from: giantchris on November 03, 2014, 12:35:18 AM
Quote from: mortlock on November 02, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
ive been experiencing wrist and forearm pain recently. it seems to be mostly at the top of the wrist and it especially hurts when I bend my wrist up or down. I know its from playing bass. I try and warm up and stretch but its weird ive had lingering pain for a few weeks now, and I really haven't played much. I feel like it got worse since the hernia surg while ive had a period of not playing much..


If you play fingerstyle and this pain is in your plucking hand this might be from bending your wrist over the top of the bass to pluck which you are not supposed to do.  If that's the case just raise the elbow and keep that wrist straight and you'll be good.  If its you're fretting hand your kinda SOL unless you are playing with your bass strung really low.

Just some thoughts.  Good luck.
its all fretting hand. I do sling the bass low, maybe time to raise the strap. could start playing death metal style with the bass in a vertical position..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 03, 2014, 10:59:44 PM
Drink lots of water, that's supposed to be a factor. If I am going to play a lot, I might seriously spend an hour warming up (warming up to me means start off easy and don't play anything difficult).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 04, 2014, 03:48:06 AM
I sometimes warm up unil I fall out of the chair uber baked. but yeah-boy-howdy am I relaxed!

the fret hand angle thing. I watched some videos on how to fret for hi speed and classical stuff. a lot of it was that your hand should be <90 degree angle with neck.
shorter strap length and angling guitar upwards both help.

also, playing bass, which I don't do much of, but when I do, it is on a fender copy, wears my hands out.  lots of far reaching and all single finger presses basically really smokes the fret hand.   I have been casually shopping basses that I actually can play in a relaxed fashion. the standard fender template is wrong for me.
I was joking before, but have you shopped basses recently? maybe it is time for an old man stingray.

lumpy, please bring me back a genuine vinyl from nam.  I will reward you.   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 04, 2014, 10:23:54 AM
I hadn't talked to my old drummer in close to 2 years after splitting up our band.  The main reasons being his serious drinking problem (drinking about a half rack at practice while dealing with his 3rd dui and on antabuse then driving home) and his uber crazy ex-stripper girlfriend.  So bad that I refrained from booking tours because she would have to go along.  Fuck that.  Well I decided to check in with him and see what's up.  He kicked her out and now has a blow and go in his car.  He came over on Sunday to hang and we jammed a bit.  I never touched a guitar, it was just me in the Synth Circle and him killin it on my stripped down set.  I should have recorded it.  What a blast.  We'll reconvene in a couple weeks and see what happens.  Kinda stoked and inspired.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 04, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
Hope your friend is pulling thru the dark times. No substitute for chemistry \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 04, 2014, 04:54:50 PM
I told him if he's starting to miss her just go look at the wine stains on the ceiling.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 04, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 04, 2014, 04:54:50 PM
I told him if he's starting to miss her just go look at the wine stains on the ceiling.

^ True friend.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 05, 2014, 10:15:17 AM
Update on red dirt guy/gig cancellation.

Adrian has a sub so can still do the show. I'm on for gig with red dirt guy. Charted out 90 min set, going over it at the house. Meeting up with guitar player today to run through. Rehearsal is tomorrow afternoon. Gig is in Houston.

Then the plot thickens. Turns out I double-booked myself for Saturday. Shit. Depending on who has a sub on standby, I'll either be playing on Lake Travis or a private party in Houston.

Houston party would pay much better. Lake Travis show would be easier logistically. 

If I play Houston I'd have to take my own vehicle so I'd be able to get myself/gear home, as red dirt band is traveling together then heading home next day. If I play Lake Travis, I'd ride with red dirt band.

See what happens. My bad for not staying on top of my calendar. But in my defense I'm trying to keep it full so need to accept what comes my way as gigs do fall through/plans change.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 05, 2014, 05:18:16 PM
Fried rice and amp repair for breakfast.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_23921_zps28cc97ca.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_23921_zps28cc97ca.jpg.html)
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on November 05, 2014, 07:37:25 PM
Broken plexi?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 05, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
Not really. Sorry to disappoint.  i went to move it and heard some shit rattling around inside.  i thought it might be a tinnerman nut and didn't want to turn it on with it jammed inside someplace where there's 500 volts so I pulled it out and found grid resistor floating around and a leg off another.  So quick fix.  But the interesting part was this blob of solder on the back of the chassis that I don't think was there before I took it to this dude a year and a half ago to have some other shit looked at that I couldn't figure out.  What'd he do, test out his iron to see if it was hot enough for a chassis ground?  I can't find pics of the gutshots from before to prove it.  If I can Imma rattle his fucking cage about it.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_23931_zpsc35c8983.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_23931_zpsc35c8983.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 05, 2014, 08:45:36 PM
how come you set the soldering iron sponge on the table? heh. also, maybe i'm too much of a freak, but I tend to try and keep my food and the 60/40 lead-tin solder with its carcinogenic rosin core, and my lead covered fingers, far apart.

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so I was reading the lexicon reverb manual and it specifies to use only tip-ring-sleeve, 1/4" jacks. I always thought those "stereo" jacks fucked up in normal instrument uses.
good thing I didn't put together the set of 1/4" shorty jumper cables. I would have gotten standard tip-sleeve ends.  learn some more shit every day.

so basically, standard guitar cords are not really factory spec.   fuckin a. I used guitar chords to test the unit with the stereo out from the synth.  nooob!!!
ok, not a big deal as such, but the manual said that the unit could hang.  that beats the auxiliary smoke machine function, but could still fail a performance or recording.

quote from manual. it's like the beginning of star wars movie text. you know you are in for a great fun adventure:

Thank you for your purchase of the MPX 500 24-Bit Dual Channel Processor. Powered by Lexicon's proprietary Lexichip™, the MPX 500 has 240 presets with classic reverb programs such as Ambience, Plate, Chamber and Inverse, as well as Tremolo, Rotary, Chorus, Flange, Pitch, Detune, 5.5 second Delay and Echo. Dual-channel processing gives you two independent effects in a variety of configurations: Dual Stereo (Parallel), Cascade, Mono Split and Dual Mono. A large graphics display and dedicated Edit knobs give you instant access to each preset's parameters and an easy Learn mode allows MIDI patching of front panel controls. In addition, tempo- controlled delays and modulation rates lock to Tap or MIDI clock, and Tap tempos can be controlled by audio input, the front panel Tap button, dual footswitch, external MIDI controller or MIDI Program Change. Other features include a software-selectable MIDI OUT/THRU port, pushbutton or footswitch selection of dry or muted audio output and a built-in power supply.

edit:
Rager, see the implications of tempo controlled delays and modulation rates?  the arturia beat step or general midi clock can control the rates on the effects, like LFO synth stuff.
I might have to go meditate on the mountain for a week to really absorb the possible new things that I can do.
especially since I have 3 of these lil fuckers.

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edits: speaking of soldering, I have been rigging an old PC power supply(so old it has the AC mains power switch on a cable along with the PC power taps. I prefer the new ones where you jumper 2 motherboard connector pins with a SPST switch for turn on) to run music gear.  I made a CD drive power cable setup for my multitrack recorder and a car-stereo active bi-amp crossover (the 2 12V gadgets I have found so far to reduce wall wart count).
the car stereo crossover is my secret subwoofer weapon (well plus 750w/channel to spank those subs).  I have an even nicer tri-amped blaupunkt active crossover. yes my car stereo was a 14 speaker tri-amped 1200w rms freakshow. all sitting here in boxes now...sigh...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 08, 2014, 12:40:23 AM
Gig with red dirt guy went well considering I had one rehearsal and 2 days before that to learn the music.

Looks like ill be playing with Bleu Edmondson for a good chunk to most of 2015. See what happens.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 08, 2014, 12:45:59 AM
Bleu Cheese Edmondson..that would be his blues name.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 08, 2014, 01:34:11 AM
well shit. I had to take 2 of those lexicon reverbs back. they powered up fine, but the rotary encoders were worn and would randomly select a new patch like 5 numbers down the list, then change a couple times before settling down..nope

I bitched the guys out for not checking them out properly, heh so that they would just stfu and gimme my money back, which they did.

fuck. I was really getting stoked to whip some brutal heavy reverberations out. well one still works.   may have to use delay pedal as help.

edit: i finally replaced the 4" speaker in the greta 2watt amp with a dummy resistor. silence is golden.  i was pondering how to install a switch on and off for months, then i just thought"what if i never want to use the speaker again: just hardwire the resistor in and see how it goes" ...annnd done
the yamaha DX-7 kybd old skool mono output works nicely into greta.  greta does really nasty things to the organ sound. THEN it goes to the mixer for reverb addition.
this Mackie mixer actually has 6 aux outs. 3/4 get shifted to 5/6 with a switch for every channel. the thing is set up for 3 effects units.
and the channel lights blink with signal, regardless of where the slider is. makes it easy to find all your sources at a glance without having to bring up the level to see lights blinking

i also found out mr malekko doesn't like a TRS (stereo) 1/4" jack into its input, so i didn't even try mr pharaoh. the output was fine with TRS, which is nice to get into the rest of the signal path.
the focusright A/D is quiet, really quiet. i still haven't tried out the large condenser into the pre's
i took one look at ableton and decided i have other stuff to figure out before that. reaper sees all just fine haha. BUT there are a lot of really cool looking things to do with ableton and it looks like the drum tracks may be really handy since i am crippled regarding drums.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 08, 2014, 09:41:27 PM
Selling cabs and gear I don't use anymore and bass gear to upgrade to new/better/louder bass gear. The rig is taking shape.

Hooked a friend up with a SS half stack for super cheap. He isn't so great at writing songs but when he plays guitar it's like metal/punk meets jazz and he needs to form a band ASAP. I hope he finds a good drummer and gets something going.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 09, 2014, 01:04:19 AM
what bass gear are you saving up for?  are you planning on being in two bands then; joining another band to play bass?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 09, 2014, 05:15:13 AM
I think I may have heard an EHX B9 pedal on a black keys song
at 20 sec and again at 2:40
pretty cool tune too. home boys did good.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 09, 2014, 10:36:18 PM

paging jib..and anyone else who feels like chiming in..
so I got the sundown tracer 150. I feel like theres some serious potential with this thing. I need to know..can I connect my ampeg 410/200 watts/8 ohm cab to this thing and use it in place of my head and a single 1x15 cab?? also whats the point of an outlet on the back of the head?? this thing says 500 watts / 4 ohm min load..
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 09, 2014, 10:58:00 PM

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 09, 2014, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: everdrone on November 09, 2014, 01:04:19 AM
what bass gear are you saving up for?  are you planning on being in two bands then; joining another band to play bass?

Two 1x15s with monster Eminence speakers and probably a Crown XLS1000. Orogen is currently only a studio band and the new one is a 2 piece.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 10, 2014, 12:11:42 AM
liquid, keep watching craigslist for amps. disenchanted DJ's dump their setups all the time around here.
you can score something huge for <$200.   I know I sound like a broken record, but look for something way overpowered.
When an amp is idling and playing quietly it is putting out 10mW. this could be your 50mW clock radio amp or your 2000w/ch PA amp

but when you hit it, reserve power keeps the sound way full instead of strangling out.
seriously. I was first scared of my 750w/ch crown when I got it.  I never owned anything over 100watts/ch before. but now that I have had these power amps around here for a while, they are all the same. it depends on where the gains are set. not scary. I can play stuff quietly(not really because of the fans) if I want to and they are all still the same.

i got my big crown for $250 and the other 3 amps(crown power-tech2 and 2 QSC rmx series) all for $150 each. the QSC RMX-1450 was a steal for $150 heh. i wish i just had 4 of those, but i am not crying, and i got 1 yr warranties on those other 3 amps, so they were each $180 out the door. i bought like 2000watts/ch for $800 out the door at the end of the day all with 1 yr warranty. the big crown was off the floor so it had new warranty.

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that bass combo looked cool. cool you snagged it.  first off, the 500w max by the ac plug means ac power, not amp output power. power=amps x volts. so rule of thumb is 100volts uses 1 amp to make 100 watts.   so quick math says keep current draw below 5 amps for anything you plug into there. basically and you wont use more than 500 watts of juice.
you can size up loads on powerstrips like that. add up all the current draws and multiply by 100 to get the total power. same thing, if all the devices say "max power consumption 200watts" you can rule of thumb that is a 2 amp draw

ok, my best guess is that the amp out is line level for driving a slave or effects. but maybe it is a volume control pre out. i would google the user manual to get all the details.
you have external speaker jacks. they say anything 4 ohms or greater (ie 8 ohms) is cool. they don't want you to go below 4 ohms so you don't melt the SS outputs with too much current.

the AC power plug on the back is something that was very common on stereo receivers. in the day, you basically knew you would have a receiver, a turntable and a cassette deck in your little stereo setup. crap like a cassette deck uses basically no power, so it was really convenient to just add the "power strip" to the back of the receiver to keep it neat and clean.

some were "switched" and some were"unswitched" outlets. the unswitched were paralleled right to the incoming mains AC, maybe it was fused IDK, but it stated a max draw.
the switched outlets were controlled by the main power switch on the receiver and those had specific current limitations since it was all going thru the power switch.

basically you don't want to run power amps out of extra AC plugs on the back of gear. what you could do however is run your pedal power supply or rack effects or a multitrack recorder, wireless mic box, little lights, yada yada or anything else low power use and save an extension cord.

they are handy. i have a light and my phone charger in 2 of the outlets on the back of the receiver right next to me heh. i never turn it off, so idc which switched or un switched outlet i'm using

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if i win the lottery, i'm buying everyone a malekko delay and a super pharaoh. once in a while i get something right. this combo is right as a mutherfucker.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 10, 2014, 12:49:27 AM
so..the short answer is 'yes, I can hook my ampeg 410 up with the sundown without problems.'  

right??
im pretty sure that's what you were saying..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 10, 2014, 01:01:38 AM
like the "boil it down some more" commercial. i loved that commercial for some cable company


"more boil" hahaha

YES is what you are looking for.

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i upgraded my entire signal path in one shot and wow does it make a difference. having stuff sound nicer makes for great inspiration to keep playing.  my left hand is taking a beating[shuddup] from fretting the guitar and tons of chords and octaves on the keyboards. right hand is laughing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2014, 01:22:20 AM
Quote from: jibberish on November 10, 2014, 12:11:42 AM
liquid, keep watching craigslist for amps. disenchanted DJ's dump their setups all the time around here.
you can score something huge for <$200.   I know I sound like a broken record, but look for something way overpowered.
When an amp is idling and playing quietly it is putting out 10mW. this could be your 50mW clock radio amp or your 2000w/ch PA amp

but when you hit it, reserve power keeps the sound way full instead of strangling out.
seriously. I was first scared of my 750w/ch crown when I got it.  I never owned anything over 100watts/ch before. but now that I have had these power amps around here for a while, they are all the same. it depends on where the gains are set. not scary. I can play stuff quietly(not really because of the fans) if I want to and they are all still the same.

i got my big crown for $250 and the other 3 amps(crown power-tech2 and 2 QSC rmx series) all for $150 each. the QSC RMX-1450 was a steal for $150 heh. i wish i just had 4 of those, but i am not crying, and i got 1 yr warranties on those other 3 amps, so they were each $180 out the door. i bought like 2000watts/ch for $800 out the door at the end of the day all with 1 yr warranty. the big crown was off the floor so it had new warranty.

No fear here. The XLS1000 is 1100 watts bridged at 4 ohms. Seeing them new online for as low as $230-250. Some bass players on other forums have said it's not really that loud but I'd like to give one a go as my class D 350 watter is quite loud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 10, 2014, 02:24:22 AM
power and decibels is a strange relationship.

3dB is a slight increase in volume.  10dB is double the volume.
it takes 2x power to increase volume 3dB. it takes 10x power to double the volume 10dB.

if you set up your system based on max output, there is no headroom left. in essence, you would want to completely compress your sound to one volume and play it near max, just like the radio stations do. there also wont be any extra crushing drive when you really max out in a song

bridged is also a bit of a compromise. bridged amp onto a big bridged mono speaker array seems redundant. can you split the speakers in half and run separate channels? like on a 4x10 or 2x15 etc.  the amps will see the speakers clearer and control them better. this actually can be a help with bass damping factor.  maybe at least play with that.

anyway, I see you pushing a little amp to the wall and you will be disappointed with how lifeless it sounds.  bridged into 4 ohms should be like 2400watts.
1000w 8 ohm bridged maybe. bridged IS cheating the specs.  

remember, bass is all about current drive. your amp either can push x current or it cant. playing with the numbers cant change that.
when those guys say "doesn't get loud" they probably sense there is no extra 3-6dB head room(2x-4x the power remaining or a big supply enough to take a +4+6dB spike)
that headroom puts the zing into the accented stuff. it uncompresses it.

you don't have to turn a big amp all the way up to try and blow up your speakers just going by hard ratings.   I would run a 100watt cab off a 1000 watt amp.  don't run it max loud, and any momentary over load level spikes will be safer for the speakers than clipped garbage. a 100watt speaker can take a 1000w spike, but obviously not compressed continuous power like that.

maybe I can talk MJS into buying you an XLS2000. that is what you want/need for more relaxed fun and doling out punishment.
i'll pitch in some cash to help you get set up right. look for one of those used. just looking GC has used ones for $349..new 1000 is $299.....

edit: acoustic B2000 combo like new just showed up on CL for $200..  I had better knife dogfood's tires in case he reads CL too. will call tomorrow....
that's so funny how close dogfood is.  that used to be primo dirt bike trails all in through there before the white man built houses on them. fuckers...heh
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2014, 03:09:07 AM
I'm just going by what Crown says, I don't see how that amp could put out anything close to 2400 watts and I shouldn't need that kind of power anyway, even 1100 probably get eyes rolling around here. I could run it stereo but I don't want to buy two 4 ohm speakers as there are fewer options and a lot of amps can't do a 2 ohm load.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 10, 2014, 03:50:53 AM
Quote from: jibberish on November 10, 2014, 02:24:22 AMa 100watt speaker can take a 1000w spike, but obviously not compressed continuous power like that.

It can?  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 10, 2014, 06:04:34 AM
heh. the sl1000 cant do 2400w. that's not what I wrote.  i'm trying to explain headroom and I typed too much again.
I will stop now. 
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lumpy, think about this:  it takes a certain amount of energy per unit of time per cross-section of speaker coil winding to melt it.

you can stick your finger in fire and not get burned. how? get it the fuck out of the fire before it gathers enough heat to burn, haha. but your finger just took 600 degrees. yeah we bad! uh huh.
slo-blo fuse principle. passes overvoltage spikes, as long as total energy isn't enough to melt the fuse.
it is a 10dB spike, and if short duration, does not heat or move anything much. 1000w rms would smoke that speaker pronto.
In fact, if the spike is quick enough, the coil inductance smothers it and it doesn't even get through. natural low pass filter action.

you guys are glamoured by the numbers.  rms output and rms power handling is a baseline number to show relative power. it is truly a useless spec in real use.

X dB's per some Y watts continuous[well below max rms spec by at least 2x-4x] with headroom of Z dB's is what is really happening unless it is compressed and/or just dimed to the power rail.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 10, 2014, 11:52:51 AM
So I finally sucked up my pride and took my Sub37 over to GC (since they are a Moog dealer) and had them do the firmware update since I'm too stupid to figure out how to do it.  The studio mgr guy did it for me and was super cool about the whole thing.  Probably because he's not a douchey on the floor sales guy.  I was so grateful that I bought an Akai Rhythm Wolf.  Then he gave me 15% off.  Super cool.  It still bugs me to spend money there but dude did me a solid so.....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on November 10, 2014, 06:12:17 PM
Peavey 5150 head is on the way to my home. It's definitely too high-gain one for me. Luckily it's quite popular here and I hope for selling it. If I succeed, I'd buy a JCM800 2203 or invest some money and try to grab a Rockerverb.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
Too high gain even with the distortion turned down? I don't think it's tight sounding enough for certain types of metal tones but for others and for stoner/heavy rock I think it's one of the best.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on November 10, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
5150? Seriously? I MUST check it out when I get it...
But I'll need to find someone with a cab, as I don't have any :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on November 10, 2014, 06:33:41 PM
I used to use a 5150 with a Meathead running into it for a sludge band. Worked fine, they're pretty much just a modded JCM800 design.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on November 10, 2014, 06:37:40 PM
Must finally order a Meathead copy... Original ones are virtually unavailable here..

EDIT: I can order one directly from the maker. But the original ones are extremely expensive for me :(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2014, 09:44:22 PM
Quote from: Omlet on November 10, 2014, 06:27:11 PM
5150? Seriously? I MUST check it out when I get it...
But I'll need to find someone with a cab, as I don't have any :D

Do you have a friend that has a cab? My roommate has a 5150 and when you dial it in right and crank it up it sounds very Wino/Pike but with more distortion if you want it. They break up real nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on November 11, 2014, 05:18:05 AM
Yes I have one or two friends with cabs. But I'm not sure if we have a proper environment to crank that beast up :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 11, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
What are one or two good microphones for general recording? Guitar and electronics. Nothing expensive. (Separate recommendations for guitar and electronics okay). My recordings don't sound very good, turns out the house mics at the practice space are rated 'super horrible'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on November 11, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on November 11, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
What are one or two good microphones for general recording? Guitar and electronics. Nothing expensive. (Separate recommendations for guitar and electronics okay). My recordings don't sound very good, turns out the house mics at the practice space are rated 'super horrible'.

What's "expensive" can be REALLY relative when it comes to recording gear. Totally subjective, obviously, but the Shure SM57 is a reliable standby for a lot of things (guitar certainly). Heil makes some very nice dynamic mics (PR series) that get very well reviewed. Definitely not on the cheaper side, but a Shure SM7B is a great workhorse mic for a lot of things (vocals, guitar, bass, drums), because it's very unidirectional and low gain. It takes a lot of gain from a mic preamp, so it can show off cheap recording gear, but it's great for cutting out bleed and capturing really loud sounds well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on November 11, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
To be fair it took me quite a lot of years to figure out that gain knobs didn't HAVE to all be on 10 at all times.

And mid knobs don't have to be on 0. "How come I have a 100w Marshall and still can't hear myself?"  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 11, 2014, 07:27:42 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on November 11, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on November 11, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
What are one or two good microphones for general recording? Guitar and electronics. Nothing expensive. (Separate recommendations for guitar and electronics okay). My recordings don't sound very good, turns out the house mics at the practice space are rated 'super horrible'.

What's "expensive" can be REALLY relative when it comes to recording gear. Totally subjective, obviously, but the Shure SM57 is a reliable standby for a lot of things (guitar certainly). Heil makes some very nice dynamic mics (PR series) that get very well reviewed. Definitely not on the cheaper side, but a Shure SM7B is a great workhorse mic for a lot of things (vocals, guitar, bass, drums), because it's very unidirectional and low gain. It takes a lot of gain from a mic preamp, so it can show off cheap recording gear, but it's great for cutting out bleed and capturing really loud sounds well.

Cool, thanks for that. :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 12, 2014, 03:11:35 AM
+1 on the SM57, heavier sounding guitar tones than the other dynamic mic I have. I track drums and vocals with a $50 MXL MCA SP1 condenser and think it sounds great.


Quote from: fallen on November 11, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
To be fair it took me quite a lot of years to figure out that gain knobs didn't HAVE to all be on 10 at all times.

And mid knobs don't have to be on 0. "How come I have a 100w Marshall and still can't hear myself?"  ;)

Been there done that too. For playing by yourself though a lack of mids can be very inspiring for riff writing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 12, 2014, 03:17:41 AM
VOLVO))) please ignore this.

Mounting 18 lb. bass speakers that are going to be pushed hard- 8 wood screws vs 4 or 8 T-Nuts/bolts with Loctite?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 12, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
practice break.

heh, are you sure you didn't mean jibberish ignore this? hey liquid I am sorry about rambling too much. I get a good buzz on and just trip out on the subject and take it way too far.

  I would just screw them in heh. run them down like a valve cover so you don't warp the basket , especially if it is a shit stamped steel one and not cast. cast ones are tough to warp, but still why put concentrated stress on the frame. you can put washers on screws if you want. get flat head screws, not self sinking tho.

I would bet the world runs on mostly screwed in speakers.

nuts'n'bolts are the pro thing to do. washers too.
washers are cool because they spread the force out more than a bolt head = more stout assembly.  But wood is nice to screw speakers into.
the car stereo arena is mostly thin sheet steel. you must use nuts'n'bolts, so sometimes the arena sets the option list.


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I have still been working on keyboards extra hard. getting a ragtime left hand chord pattern slapped onto rockin round the xmas tree is a real riot. I call myself many names and often. the game is to separate the left and right hands so they can each do their own thing.  fuckin a....

then I am working on arpeggiated chords in o holy night. get that left hand ticking off 1/4 notes and play the somewhat random melody and 2-note shit whilst keeping the 4 note left hand chord forms going.
I also arranged in a heap of 3 octave arpeggiated chords towards the big finale build-up just to really fuck up my left hand some more AND I stuck in some extra 3/4 waltz pattern stuff(bass note, upper chord, upper chord as the 1 2 3 pattern of a waltz) so I have to shift into waltz gear twice in that song. If I get this working right, i'll make everyone in the room cry with it.
the power potential of this song is off the richter.

started on silver bells to get some crazy ringing shit(besides tinnitus) going AND more full keyboard arpeggiated chords.     full metal keyboard!!! booyah!
working on that c minor run in inna gadda davida that goes all the way up the keyboard. not so easy with that black key involved .
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 12, 2014, 04:41:19 AM
Cast Eminence.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 12, 2014, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: fallen on November 11, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
To be fair it took me quite a lot of years to figure out that gain knobs didn't HAVE to all be on 10 at all times.

And mid knobs don't have to be on 0. "How come I have a 100w Marshall and still can't hear myself?"  ;)

Good realization to come to.


And +1 to SM57 as cheap go-to recording mic. SM58 is handy too. Diff tonal characteristics, and both can be found on the cheap in pawn shops for the price of one or the other new.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on November 12, 2014, 08:00:56 PM
Shit, what did I miss?!?!?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 12, 2014, 08:40:22 PM
Stuff :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 12, 2014, 11:14:42 PM
anyone ever have this happen?? the nut on my bass suddenly exploded. the nut is split in half between the a and d strings and half the nut is slid over and hanging off the neck. it happened the other night. I was in the room when it happened.

the bass was tuned to standard tuning and ive never had a problem.. weirdest thing ever. all I can think of is the weather change..maybe the neck shifted. why now though?? weird..
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on November 13, 2014, 12:31:26 AM
Seen it before. Super glue it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 13, 2014, 12:41:13 AM
Re: the SM57, supposedly there are a lot of fakes floating around (a lot? some?) which makes me nervous about buying one used - my usual preference.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 13, 2014, 01:19:47 AM
^ I haven't heard that, but good to know if that's the case.

Re: nut, holy shit. Never seen that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 13, 2014, 08:25:53 AM
What's this?

Mort finally busted a nut?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 13, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
I thought he just had surgery for that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on November 13, 2014, 11:31:58 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on November 13, 2014, 12:41:13 AM
Re: the SM57, supposedly there are a lot of fakes floating around (a lot? some?) which makes me nervous about buying one used - my usual preference.

I actually meant to put something about that in my post. I was in the midst of a head cold (still am), so I was a bit groggy and forgot. If you're going to buy one used, try to buy it from a reputable source. There definitely are a lot of fakes floating around, since it's such a popular item, and it's not that easy to spot in small thumbnail pictures. It's worth buying one new though. There's certain microphones that are always going to be useful if you're recording and it's certainly high up on the list. A lot of people slam them online as well, but that's just the expected backlash of something being widely used and talked out. If you buy one and you record semi-regularly, you'll get your money's worth out of it. They last pretty much forever.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 13, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
So I just lost a three-day run of gigs due to an oversight from the band leader.

I submitted my availability for said weekend several weeks back and never heard otherwise.

Being I'm driving from Austin to Houston I sent an email to said band leader seeing if I can get some extra comp for gas.

He says the other bassist is doing the shows, and no one told me that?

I responded no. And I cancelled/turned down gigs to do this weekend.

No response yet. But I already sent a brief and level headed email saying to give other bassist the gigs, I will be trying to salvage the weekend, and included my address so he can send a check for whatever monetary amount he feels my time is/was worth, and closed it with my official resignation and best of luck to them.

I just lost rent due to their oversight. And luckily I didn't drive all the way out there to find this out. Saved said band leader most of his teeth.

What the actual fuck? As a sideman the level of incompetency I've occasionally had to endure is truly staggering.

And it always hits my bank account and not theirs.

Not holding my breath for a check from this clown, but would be a good gesture if I got one.

Fuck me dead.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 13, 2014, 12:18:11 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 13, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
I thought he just had surgery for that.
dood, I made sure that shit worked like 2 days after. I wasn't taking any chances..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 13, 2014, 07:00:44 PM
Bored at work and buying gear online.  Just ordered up a TC Electronics Nova Modulator based on a Donny Airey rig rundown vid I watched while bored at work.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 13, 2014, 07:01:44 PM
I got an itchy "add to cart" finger for a Mobius too. :P
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 13, 2014, 08:00:58 PM
so this dude says to me..all the old cats that were playing out back in the early 90s are still playing shows. all the people who were going to shows in the 90s are no longer going out to shows.

so much truth..

the only true diehards are the musicians themselves..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 14, 2014, 03:25:08 AM
You gotta have all-ages shows... get the young people involved. Then they start their own bands (and bring new people out to the shows) and the cycle of life continues.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 14, 2014, 04:46:47 AM
^ This. And they'll bring their damn parents too haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on November 14, 2014, 12:23:16 PM
I'm continually amazed at the support and enthusiasm younger folks give for a lot of the bands with older players in them. There also seems to be a musical open mindedness with younger people who aren't primarily fans of the Heavy or older-style Rock (at least out here) as well.
Kind of gives me hope for the future of music and opportunities for older cats like myself to still get up there and do the do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on November 14, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Is anyone else occasionally jealous of those indie-folk bands that show up to gigs and the band is one scrawny guy with a parlour acoustic guitar and a girl with a little Nord keyboard on a stand. No amps or anything, a total of probably 20 lbs of gear total, up there at the total mercy of the PA and the soundman.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 14, 2014, 03:00:10 PM
This guy, of course. I'm jealous of bands that play with 1x12 combos and 2 pedals.  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 14, 2014, 03:11:09 PM
No jealousy here.

After lugging my body weight in bass gear, it's never too heavy once I fire it up and hit that first low E \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 14, 2014, 04:43:51 PM
^ good point. DESTROY!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on November 14, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: Danny G on November 13, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
So I just lost a three-day run of gigs due to an oversight from the band leader.

I submitted my availability for said weekend several weeks back and never heard otherwise.

Being I'm driving from Austin to Houston I sent an email to said band leader seeing if I can get some extra comp for gas.

He says the other bassist is doing the shows, and no one told me that?

I responded no. And I cancelled/turned down gigs to do this weekend.

No response yet. But I already sent a brief and level headed email saying to give other bassist the gigs, I will be trying to salvage the weekend, and included my address so he can send a check for whatever monetary amount he feels my time is/was worth, and closed it with my official resignation and best of luck to them.

I just lost rent due to their oversight. And luckily I didn't drive all the way out there to find this out. Saved said band leader most of his teeth.

What the actual fuck? As a sideman the level of incompetency I've occasionally had to endure is truly staggering.

And it always hits my bank account and not theirs.

Not holding my breath for a check from this clown, but would be a good gesture if I got one.

Fuck me dead.

shit that sucks, if they do not pony up in a fair amount of time I think you should name names and publicly shame them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on November 14, 2014, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: fallen on November 14, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Is anyone else occasionally jealous of those indie-folk bands that show up to gigs and the band is one scrawny guy with a parlour acoustic guitar and a girl with a little Nord keyboard on a stand. No amps or anything, a total of probably 20 lbs of gear total, up there at the total mercy of the PA and the soundman.

How they sound when they start playing usually fixes it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 14, 2014, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: fallen on November 14, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Is anyone else occasionally jealous of those indie-folk bands that show up to gigs and the band is one scrawny guy with a parlour acoustic guitar and a girl with a little Nord keyboard on a stand. No amps or anything, a total of probably 20 lbs of gear total, up there at the total mercy of the PA and the soundman.

I get the roadie/load-in angle of what you are saying. in which case I would say to become the singer heh.

I can honestly say that I have never watched the dinger and foetuscide jamboree in person, ever.
the expression "people eat with their eyes" can be translated from restaurant food presentation wisdom over to the stage setup of a band.

a cute ovation with all the little cute holes and a little nord keyboard would say to me : G T F O (if there is a scarf tied to any signal cable, this means RUN!)




Now IF the dude is playing a badassed Novation synth and they have a really good drummer and a very ecclectic goth-ish front lady...that would work better for me. chances are better that I would stay
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 14, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on November 14, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: Danny G on November 13, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
So I just lost a three-day run of gigs due to an oversight from the band leader.

I submitted my availability for said weekend several weeks back and never heard otherwise.

Being I'm driving from Austin to Houston I sent an email to said band leader seeing if I can get some extra comp for gas.

He says the other bassist is doing the shows, and no one told me that?

I responded no. And I cancelled/turned down gigs to do this weekend.

No response yet. But I already sent a brief and level headed email saying to give other bassist the gigs, I will be trying to salvage the weekend, and included my address so he can send a check for whatever monetary amount he feels my time is/was worth, and closed it with my official resignation and best of luck to them.

I just lost rent due to their oversight. And luckily I didn't drive all the way out there to find this out. Saved said band leader most of his teeth.

What the actual fuck? As a sideman the level of incompetency I've occasionally had to endure is truly staggering.

And it always hits my bank account and not theirs.

Not holding my breath for a check from this clown, but would be a good gesture if I got one.

Fuck me dead.

shit that sucks, if they do not pony up in a fair amount of time I think you should name names and publicly shame them.
that would have been the first thing I would have done..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 15, 2014, 01:45:12 PM
See what happens, not holding my breath. Still haven't even gotten a response, much less an apology. Getting a check would really be a stretch.

I was able to fill in Fri/Sat with one of the offers I had initially declined so at least making something this weekend. Won't be $500 tho.

And my van just started misfiring again en route to Houston last night. Hoping a spark plug wire just came loose again. If not I could take it in, I just won't be able to pay for any repairs... >:(

On top of the new tires I need, out of contact lenses, and SVT is sitting in the shop again. And rent is overdue.

Keep your day job, kids.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 15, 2014, 01:47:20 PM
And for the record, I'm not a shit-talker. I tell friends in confidence about negative experiences, but not into the public shaming thing.

They are more than capable of shooting themselves in the foot, and are already doing so.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on November 15, 2014, 03:58:04 PM
Fuckers. All your broken shit makes me glad I'm so mistrusting of techs and mechanics. DIY or be broke, I guess.

What kind of Van, Dan? I might be able to tell you what to jiggle.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 15, 2014, 09:45:45 PM
That's what she said ;)

99 Ford E-150 conversion van.

I know what to jiggle, I just couldn't get to it >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on November 16, 2014, 04:16:57 AM
Quote from: Danny G on November 15, 2014, 09:45:45 PM
That's what she said ;)

99 Ford E-150 conversion van.

I know what to jiggle, I just couldn't get to it >:(

Hey Danny, some times a bad tank of gas or two will make your rig run really rough.  Get some "Techron" and put that in your tank just before you fill up.  It worked great on my van.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on November 16, 2014, 08:22:24 AM
Yup, can of sea foam... 99s had individual coil-over plugs, I thought. Maybe those came in 01. Those go bad on the regular.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 16, 2014, 10:01:46 AM
99's did too. Is it a Triton v10 or v8?  Them coils go and sometimes the plugs both.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on November 16, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
Those things require some good bendy bits and some decent contortions, but ain't too bad to wrench on. The e-150 should be the v8.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 16, 2014, 01:00:52 PM
Triton 4.6L V8

Had all the wires replaced few months ago.

This was the first time the tank has been full in many many months, and was pulling a trailer.

Put more gas in on the way back from Houston. Still misfiring next morning with diff gas and not pulling a trailer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 17, 2014, 01:16:27 AM
My Sansamp bass driver DI went for $122 on ebay, I was quite surprised. Probably would have sold it to a friend for half that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on November 17, 2014, 01:49:47 AM
Quote from: Danny G on November 16, 2014, 01:00:52 PM
Triton 4.6L V8

Had all the wires replaced few months ago.

This was the first time the tank has been full in many many months, and was pulling a trailer.

Put more gas in on the way back from Houston. Still misfiring next morning with diff gas and not pulling a trailer.

Pull the plugs and see if you have just one or two fouled plugs, if so replace them, but make a not of them because it might be a bad wire two, that way you can swap wires and see if the problem goes away.  if they are all fouled I would check your coil and run some Techron.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 17, 2014, 02:00:24 AM
As stated before (or maybe not haha) I know fuck all about engines. I don't even know what a coil is and I could barely access the wires, and wouldn't know how to remove the spark plugs w/o removing a bunch of shit I don't know what is just to get to them.

Hence it sitting in the shop awaiting to see if (a) it nothing but a loose wire (b) they had to fix something but are willing to work with me/cut me a deal or (c) it's serious, meaning essentially game over for my finances.

:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 17, 2014, 02:09:04 PM
Of course it's option fucking (c)

Something about coils, three of them fucked. $400 in repairs which I don't have. FML

In other news, I have three instrumental solo albums I wrote, recorded and mixed myself in 28 days or less and playing all the instruments, for sale at my bandcamp site if any of you are feeling generous:

http://dannyg.bandcamp.com
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 17, 2014, 05:44:06 PM
ouch.   you need to play a benefit concert for your van. name it and make up a bullshit but hilarious sr com-worthy sob story and do it.
write a new song:  "I sold my kids to pay for that van, but I still cant declare it a dependent" and off to the races....8D

hey, I know. tell those dillwads down in Houston that they are coming up to do a benefit show in your hood. oh yes they are...

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I was adding a demo track to my soundcloud and I noticed that that song I made for black, the trans Siberian orch ripoff thing, is getting a lot of plays and even 7 downloads.
that was pretty amateur. it was about the message not the studio craft, but evidently it is flying.  weird. or maybe good message who knows...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on November 17, 2014, 06:33:03 PM
I thought it was pretty pro, but I guess I don't know much about the world of gizmos all y'all synth/gizmo cats are into.

It was also a really moving and generous thing you did.

*respect*
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 18, 2014, 03:05:47 AM
can't fool me. you are the mystical shaman. you know all

seriously: i'm glad the song worked out. glad you are still here.  it was a thing of the heart so perfection sat way back in the rumble seat.
You know the old saw: "as my skills get better, I can see stuff that could be way better in older songs and projects."
and then question why would random people like that. I guess it is just snakes in my own head.

that isn't going to stop me. I have a drug education song for sunno on the way. yeah. I ripped elvis off this time uh-huh huh. just working out some sticky spots and the ending which involves a vocal stunt which is still low % of nailing every time. little clue: falling in love with you "Doing a Line or Two"
I did a line or two so sunno doesn't have to.

I want to really try out the large condenser mic and the focusrite mic pre that is supposed to be so nice. so I have to have a test song with some clear uncluttered vocals.  it would kind of be nice to have an acoustic for that too....hahaha..heh...waaaaaa!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on November 18, 2014, 07:46:46 AM
I think we're actually going to play a gig.  Palace does not gig much, I'm not much of a fan of playing live and would prefer to work on writing/recording, though this is a private party on New Year's Eve, and that's always a good time.

Finish up mixing the album on December 10th/11th, then we need to master.  I need to get in touch with this local radio station I guest DJ for, because I told them I'd do another guest spot if I could promote the album.

After that, I gotta start planning the CD release show.  I'm figuring March/April, so that there is plenty of time to put a good bill together and to promote it all proper.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 18, 2014, 02:45:47 PM
Got together with my old drummer again this last Sunday.  Went really good yet again.  Strapped on a guitar partway this time.  Man am I rusty.  My pinky finger is sore.  No more callous.  I have more drum related callouses these days.  We'll be writing some tunes I guess.  It'll be a 2 pc and I'll incorporate synths and some weird noise shit and heavy on the drums cuz he's a badass drummer.  Limited or no vocals.  We'll see what it calls for.  Gonna order a Keith Mcmillen 12 step foot controller so I can play guitar and synths at the same time but some will be just synth and drums.  I'm sure it will be a mish mash sonically and stylistically.  I'm kinda stoked. 

So yeah I guess I'm in a band again.  Although I would like to play out infrequently.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 18, 2014, 08:13:39 PM
going off something dylan just said..why is it that some musicians DO NOT like playing live?? i got a dude in my current band that is like that too.

i never understood that. to this day i still get nervous and uncomfortable as a show approaches and ive been doing the live thing steadily since 1992..i love it. you have to break from your comfort zone once in awhile. its what makes me want to continue as a musician. ive always felt that if you dont have that release of a live show, your band can get stale and directionless pretty quick.

im curious why people dont like playing live. again, to me its the ultimate rush and its really what seperates the real musicians from the pretenders imo.

absolutely no disrespect intended for those who dont like playing live, just curious as to why..how does music and being a musician satisfy you, if you never step on stage?? as dylan said, writing and recording..but dont you feel its all for nothing if you cant bring it to a live audience?? 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 18, 2014, 09:04:48 PM
This is, of course, a sweeping generalization, but many people who prefer the studio tend to be overfocused on the imperfections inherent in live music.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on November 19, 2014, 03:00:32 AM
I love playing live, that's what I live for.  The studio can be a real bummer, to much hurry up and wait and anal attention to detail.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on November 19, 2014, 05:37:58 AM
i dig playing out, but don't feel a need to do it that frequently. partly because shows so often go so late for this old man who gets up before 5am, partly because i enjoy the rocking out in practice (or rehearsal, for those of you who insist on that word) about as much. that's really why i do it, so i can rock out and feel it myself. audiences can be good, but they're kinda secondary to me. and i aim for a certain amount of imperfection in recording.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 19, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
I still enjoy playing out but I no longer feel the need to do it frequently or try and get on every good bill that comes along.  My affinity for standing around a club for 6 hours bullshitting has dwindled to near nonexistent.  There's no money in it and I don't need the money anyways and waiting around until 2 am to get a hundo is not appealing in the least.  Loading out while or before the next band plays is def a faux pas and rude to boot so ya gotta stay no matter how bad the next band is.  I also have a heart problem and have to take meds in the evening.  These make me tired.  More tired than I already am from the meds I take in the morning.  To the point that I'm yawning all night.  There have been shows where I'm just wanting to get it over with so I can go home and sleep.  I've been exhausted for 7 years.  Long gone are the days of getting home and in bed around 3:30 or 4 and still being able to get up and go to work.  I wouldn't mind playing out once every 2 or 3 months.  It def ain't what I live for anymore.  I've played a lot of shows since 1985 so I'm good to go......
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 19, 2014, 11:54:37 AM
I've been thinking hard on how to be more creative playing out. I haven't been in a traditional gigging band, but I roadied for red giant several times and I went through those entirely too long of nights with those guys a few times. I never did that myself, and I don't really want to either.

even open mic nites are still mostly sitting around waiting your turn. that gets boring. especially if some dumbfuck plays leavin on a jet plane. that is the theme song in hell. I just know it is.

I will come up with some cool fun opportunities somewhere.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on November 19, 2014, 12:12:08 PM
If you had asked me 5 years ago which I liked better, I'd say I prefer recording by a mile. I'm a bit biased, since recording is just as big a thing for me as playing music. Now though, after having gone through a LONG dry spell, I'm dying to play out live and all the people I've done recording projects with seem to be dead set against ever playing live. That or I've joined bands that said they wanted to play live and just couldn't get their shit together, for years. I've been trying to find a heavy band to join, just to play out and have fun, but I've had no luck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on November 19, 2014, 12:35:36 PM
I love to play out. JJust booked a paying gig at a brewery yesterday for my new drone band. I guess it's a band now. We've been talking about a name.

Worked on finding the best recordings from my lastband last night. Guitarist and I got stoned, drank whiske,  and cracked some fresh crabs while going over a bunch of stuff. Pretty fun. I'm going  to do a run of 50 tapes to swing at a music swap meet that I booked a table at in December. Was planning on a splitwwith the old band and the new
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 19, 2014, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on November 19, 2014, 12:35:36 PMWe've been talking about a name.



Gonna have to do this too I guess.  Even though we were somewhat recently in a band together, I don't want to use that name anymore.  We've already been in several bands together so what's another one?  He won't want anything to do with the naming process which is good and bad.  Good because I won't have to contend with anybody else's stupid ideas and bad if all my ideas are stupid there won't be anybody to offer any good ones. :P
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 19, 2014, 11:42:13 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 19, 2014, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: eyeprod on November 19, 2014, 12:35:36 PMWe've been talking about a name.



Gonna have to do this too I guess.  Even though we were somewhat recently in a band together, I don't want to use that name anymore.  We've already been in several bands together so what's another one?  He won't want anything to do with the naming process which is good and bad.  Good because I won't have to contend with anybody else's stupid ideas and bad if all my ideas are stupid there won't be anybody to offer any good ones. :P
you can count on us to tell you if it sucks..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 19, 2014, 11:45:39 PM
yeah, we sure would. we're here for you every step of the way.

use glo blinken.


edit: where is mutant? I was just pondering Idaho as nice but too far north....he is going to help build a foam cement house on my desolate mountain.  the walls will be thick, and nearly soundproof.   generator jam will become a household word like it should be.

in the meantime, maybe next summer, take over the island in Baldwin lake in Berea and have a generator jam.
also could sneak some gear down from the top of whip's ledges. then carry it the rest of the way down and have someone bring the car from the top parking area down to the bottom. whip's would be some sick acoustics for a tripped out trance session
also, underneath the I-480 bridge in the park(right next to NASA and the airport, no one lives within a mile of this spot) the bridge is probably 80-100 feet up and it is a double 4-lane bridge. the acoustics under there, especially with the shale cliff along the one side is gigunda. like a gigunda cathedral  <---actually, that's the spot, yeah!!!!!!!

thx again for the help guys!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 20, 2014, 11:31:21 AM
Playing live is intense. Sometimes it's awesome and other times it's not. Anxiety. Recording is different, I find it more exhausting in a  way, trying to play exactly perfect isn't all that fun but the end result, if it sounds good, makes the process worthwhile.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on November 20, 2014, 07:39:02 PM
Amen.  Just finishing a recording project and it feels so much less magical than a good live show.  No less fun though, just a lot of wondering if it's any good, without enough feedback.  Fuck it.  Nothing better to do, haha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on November 20, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
I judge how often I'm ready to play out by how sick I get of breaking down, setting up, breaking down and setting up my fucking drumset. There are so many live shows going on around here all the time it's hard to build name recognition and get more than ten or fifteen people to watch us play no matter where and when we play a gig. If there's more they're usually there for other bands and happen to stick around while we do our thing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 20, 2014, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: Cursed71 on November 20, 2014, 07:39:02 PM
Amen.  Just finishing a recording project and it feels so much less magical than a good live show.  No less fun though, just a lot of wondering if it's any good, without enough feedback.  Fuck it.  Nothing better to do, haha.

MC? EP? LP?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on November 21, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
Yup.  I guess it would be an LP.  Not quite done, but almost.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on November 21, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
Being that my band just played their first 3 shows over a period of the past 3 weeks, I'd say that playing live is definitely very scary but also I learned a lot. We work as a 2 piece in a rehearsal space, live we need more. So we already played with a guitar player and are gonna work in a synth player in the month of december, rework our songs if needed be and keep writing. I also felt we were getting better at it so it wasn't as scary the last time. Would do again with more instruments.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 21, 2014, 07:00:15 PM
Looking at $1500 to fix the van. I don't have $1500, or access to $1500, nor will I anytime soon.

Feeling kinda fucked at the present moment.

#cantcatchafuckingbreak
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 21, 2014, 07:08:25 PM
That sucks dude.  What is problem?  Sorry if you already explained it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 21, 2014, 07:23:08 PM
Something about a cylinder and vacuum issues. Firing on 7 now. Runs like dog shit. Guess I should just get used to it as I can't exactly sell it as is. This in addition to the $500 exhaust manifold leak which will prevent me from passing inspection when that comes up in April.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on November 21, 2014, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: Danny G on November 21, 2014, 07:23:08 PM
Something about a cylinder and vacuum issues. Firing on 7 now. Runs like dog shit. Guess I should just get used to it as I can't exactly sell it as is. This in addition to the $500 exhaust manifold leak which will prevent me from passing inspection when that comes up in April.

FACK!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 21, 2014, 08:19:55 PM
double ouch.   too bad you weren't around here.   we have the entire underground connection to get anything done with a vehicle, plus we have dogfood.
...and little microfiber blankets for little micro-dogs
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on November 21, 2014, 08:25:22 PM
I know a guy!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on November 21, 2014, 08:26:16 PM
BTW, Jib,the little lady and I just went to Samurai Sushi so we were in your neck of the woods.  
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 21, 2014, 08:55:07 PM
Quote from: dogfood on November 21, 2014, 08:26:16 PM
BTW, Jib,the little lady and I just went to Samurai Sushi so we were in your neck of the woods.  

yep, the end of my street. hope dinner was nice.
too bad the best buy got rid of their little music department. that was handy being right there.  I did score those 3 guitars for cheap when they did, but I still miss just sliding down there for strings or w/e.   the Bruno bros store by 303 and I-71 blows. I went in there in the summer and it was very disappointing.

I need to check out royalton music(keep going east on 82 into the center of N royalton). other than that, GC up at great northern is it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 21, 2014, 10:28:42 PM
This is feeling like insult to injury at this point. And I just landed a gig that I was under the impression would turn my financial situation around when it kicks in starting in the new year.

Nope.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 22, 2014, 01:54:32 AM
I want to jam xmas carols with this guy

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/strongsville-marcs-store-spreads-holiday-cheer-plays-music-in-store
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on November 22, 2014, 05:04:55 AM
Hey VOLVO)))) !

(http://cdn.instructables.com/FVH/TY6J/H742ZMHW/FVHTY6JH742ZMHW.MEDIUM.jpg)

http://www.instructables.com/id/VOLVO-guitar-project/

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on November 22, 2014, 11:45:50 AM
They forgot the actual Step 1: Strip yourself of any taste and dignity.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 23, 2014, 10:48:20 PM
Quote from: Cursed71 on November 21, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
Yup.  I guess it would be an LP.  Not quite done, but almost.

Nice!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on November 25, 2014, 05:18:50 PM
Paid for the bass today. It should be here in about 2-3 days.

Finally I bought a Fernandes MB65 from 1980s.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 29, 2014, 03:28:25 PM
Just missed an Earthquaker Devices Bit Commander on CL.  Dammit! :'(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on November 29, 2014, 08:17:43 PM
What do you have to trade?

Treble boosters? auto wah? Delay? Jamman stereo?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on November 29, 2014, 08:55:02 PM
Just got my Ravish Sitar and Superego.  They are both super difficult to use in a different ways.  The Ravish is super, super complicated, like programming a synth.  It's pretty easy to use out of the box, though fine tuning it is a bitch, and incredibly time consuming.

The Superego is actually pretty simple, it just requires a different...frame of mind than traditional guitar effects.  It's really it's own thing, and makes playing the guitar a whole different experience.  You have to think in terms of "holds" and different layers and such.  It's a bit of a transition, and I'm having difficulties with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 29, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: fallen on November 29, 2014, 08:17:43 PM
What do you have to trade?

Treble boosters? auto wah? Delay? Jamman stereo?

You have a bit commander?  I have 1979 MXR micro amp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on November 30, 2014, 02:28:08 PM
I like my new bass guitar. And I feel like I don't know shit about playing a bass, especially with finger-picking. I suck at it but still it's very enjoyable.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 30, 2014, 11:06:55 PM
Bass is fun for sure. I've found that I can play faster using a pick and in fact possibly faster than I can play a guitar probably because the strings are thicker and spaced wider.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 30, 2014, 11:09:23 PM
whats the difference between fuzz, overdrive and distortion..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 01, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
It's all distortion. Check out some youtube videos of real 'fuzz' pedals, the Tube Screamer, and any pedals called distortion pedals and you'll get a feel for the differences.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on December 01, 2014, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: mortlock on November 30, 2014, 11:09:23 PM
whats the difference between fuzz, overdrive and distortion..

Overdrive is pretty much your signal just a little louder and compressed.  Used to be done by hitting a tube amp with a loud signal booster like the ehx LPB

Distortion is when you keep adding gain or volume to the signal it starts to clip

Fuzz is when you are in pure square wave territory and it's "wooly" and fat sounding.


Note:  the preceding was not scientific and was really dumbed down and generalizing but it will give a noobie and idea what to look or listen for.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 04, 2014, 01:49:19 AM
Any of you have experience offering up your cabs as the back line for lots of bands to use at small fest type shows?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 04, 2014, 02:25:41 AM
id never do it.. unless you ran a club or venue where it was necessary. if its something small time..id never lend out my personal equipment for it..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 04, 2014, 06:05:34 AM
It's for a 2 stage small fest type gig. We go on first with 4 more bands after on that stage. They are hoping one of the bands will allow their cabs to be used as a back line to speed up transitions. My cabs are nice/new. Thinking spilled beer and the possibility of people not understanding ohms although I don't know if that could damage speakers at all.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 04, 2014, 09:05:01 AM
If you offer cabs it might be a good idea to stay close to the stage to answer questions/offer suggestions
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on December 04, 2014, 05:23:55 PM
Don't do unless you are prepared for you stuff to be damaged, not saying it will happen but when you have a bunch of people using your stuff, generally a couple will be douches that do not care if it blows up or not.  I loaned one of my cabs to an out of town band at a show, and told them, that this thing was old and the speakers were getting weak so don't crank you head up much past half volume, he said ok then proceeded to Dime it for the whole set! fucker! 

On the other hand when I've borrowed gear I won't even make knob adjustments I just let the owner set it up and play it and I'm sure there are plenty others like me but it only takes one dick to blow your speakers up!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 04, 2014, 06:15:40 PM
No. Just no.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 04, 2014, 07:12:30 PM
apply this mindset:  "I will loan these and they WILL end up fucked up in some way by the time I get them back and that is 100% OK with me"

now you are ready to let the others borrow your gear items. bonus if they end up ok.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on December 04, 2014, 08:32:10 PM
I've borrowed gear a bunch. Actually, "My" SVT and 810 were loaners. The owner came out and saw my band, and afterwards he was like "fuck dude! How do you get it to sound like that?! Pedals?"

Preamp/master both at 5. He told me he never took it passed two on the master. I absolutely flogged that amp,  much boost up front... Sansamp into the front end, SCOD slamming the sansamp.

That being said, I loan my shit out already fucked up. Everybody has a nice car but the mechanic, right? Same with techs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 05, 2014, 12:08:30 AM
Sounds like a band with 4 4x12s and an 8x10 is offering. Not having to bring my cabs will be awesome as long as they get there early enough.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 05, 2014, 12:15:01 AM
its equipment suicide. youre throwing your shit to the lions..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 05, 2014, 02:59:53 PM
I might bring our practice space drum set to share. If everyone brings their own cymbals I'm not too worried about it, it's a pretty tough set.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 05, 2014, 03:35:02 PM
Bookings for Ocean of Stars are starting to trickle in. This is encouraging.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on December 08, 2014, 12:08:47 PM
I saw Down and Orange Goblin in Sacramento last night. Both sounded great and put on a good show. I did miss Bl'ast! though, which was a huge bummer as I've never seen them live and I've liked them since I was a teenager.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 09, 2014, 05:14:24 PM
hey danny, was your road tour story about guitar meltdown in east Egypt iowa when you were out with the mother truckers?
I still am super bummed I couldn't go out that night. especially if that is a story from that tour.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 09, 2014, 05:58:29 PM
Ha! Not naming names ;) This was somewhere in W Virginia
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on December 10, 2014, 02:24:08 PM
How do you all feel about playing in a band JUST to play music? I'm not talking about paying gigs for hire, I mean someone offers you a spot in a band that you don't hate, but wouldn't be what you go looking for. I've jammed with this band a couple times, they responded to a Craigslist ad with essentially "I know this isn't what you said you're looking for, but we need a bassist". It's a death metal band and I listen to and enjoy death metal, but it's not really what I want to be playing (obviously, what forum are we on?). It's also an hour drive each way to go practice with them and the rent on their practice space is super high (unjustifiably, it's a slum). Lots of reasons for me to turn it down, the only real reason to keep with it is the people are nice and it's playing music regularly. I've been trying to start a band from scratch all year and had no luck, well actively very BAD luck actually. If I had not gone through so many rejections and flakes over the last year, I wouldn't consider it for a minute. I have a secure practice space 5 minutes from my house and gear enough for a whole band, but can't get anyone to show up and stick with it.

What do you all think? Is playing with a band just to play a bad motivation or worth it just to get back in the game and keep playing? I haven't played a gig since October of 2011 and I've been actively pursuing starting or joining a band this whole year.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 10, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
it's your priorities and your values chief.   if you can justify it to yourself, do it. if not, keep looking.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on December 10, 2014, 02:47:45 PM
After talking extensively about both issues, my buddy told me that my social interactions with trying to find a band reminds him of exactly what he's going through entering the dating world after his sudden divorce (after being in a relationship for almost 14 years). Lots of debating over whether I'm being too eager, knowing I should wait for the right thing to come along, but feeling a bit desperate and looking for validation, fearing the right one might never come along and my standards are too high lol. I couldn't argue with that assessment, I'm considering a lot of options that I wouldn't have if I was just suddenly starting to look for a band and hadn't had so many misadventures over the past year.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 10, 2014, 02:56:58 PM
If it prevents you from working on 'your' music I would say no. If it doesn't, then I would say yes to a 6 month or one year commitment to try it (maybe they are great people to work with, etcetera). Another possibility... An "I'll work on your project if you'll work on my project" arrangement. If you already have the songs and just need musicians to fulfill the roles...
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Post by: VOLVO))) on December 10, 2014, 02:57:19 PM
I joined a band "just to play." It keeps me amused. The real challenge is to join a band, WAY out of your realm (in my case, it was a pop punk band fronted by a female) and make it work.

Needless to say, I was a death metal player in a pop punk band, and just ended up harmonizing the shit out of everything. Total blast, and really well received the two times we played before the vocalist and guitarist ended their relationship, and the band.

Someone told me it sounded like a punk band listened to a lot of Iron Maiden.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 10, 2014, 03:01:54 PM
lumpy, did you stumble across any stereo or music gear stores, or vinyl stores yet?

corey, that analogy is pretty funny.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 10, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
That seems like a lot of work to play "music" and not music you really want to play but I'm old and grumpy and I complain about having to re set up my jam room to have practice on Sundays.  I should re join the Vintage Amps Forum.  I'd probably fit in now with the Clapton Pipe and Slippers Club.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 10, 2014, 03:20:45 PM
I sorta think he should do it, it's building relationships with people you could work with in the future (bands don't last forever) and you'll be getting exposure and meeting people. On the other hand (to continue the dating analogy) maybe it's better to be alone than to be in a relationship that's full of major compromises on issues that are important to you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 10, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: jibberish on December 10, 2014, 03:01:54 PM
lumpy, did you stumble across any stereo or music gear stores, or vinyl stores yet?


One store in saigon where they sold some trad. instruments and CDs (I bought CDs). Haven't been inside any music stores in hanoi yet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on December 10, 2014, 04:23:41 PM
All comments are things that have been going through my head so far lol. I kind of feel like I should get out there and make connections with new groups of players, since I feel like all the people I used to play music with just gave up, moved or are playing music I do not like at all. Part of me wants to be a purist and hold out for playing the kind of music I really want to work on and just push harder to write solo material and find people to play it. I'm weighing my feelings about the specific band right now. Even if I pass I may still seek out another band that encourages the more outgoing attitude but fits my personal tastes a bit more. I will so without reservation that all the guys in this death metal band are really cool people and I enjoy hanging out with them. I'm hot and cold on the music itself (even as a genre I like, I would write my own songs in this genre differently), some of the lyrical content and how they organize (or don't) their practices. I am willing to give it a bit more time and see how it goes.

I appreciate the varied responses, it helps clarify my own thoughts on the subject when I hear it coming from someone else.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on December 10, 2014, 04:54:54 PM
Best of (continued) luck, Corey Y.
I enjoy playing best in an ensemble situation as opposed to solo.
I've been fortunate most of my playing career to hook up with like-minded musicians with similar tastes, styles and schedules.
I thanks my lucky stars daily for that.

I don't know what's more difficult..finding those players and forming a good band, or naming said band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on December 10, 2014, 05:08:10 PM
I have band names falling out of my butt. I just can't seem to get anyone to play the kind of music I want. Full time at least, lots of jams or side projects that people eventually forget about.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on December 10, 2014, 08:15:44 PM
I wouldn't pay towards their space to play in the band. Driving an hour is enough of a $ commitment, and questionable in itself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 11, 2014, 12:01:49 PM
Covering some ground this weekend:

Tonight w/Thunderosa at the Deadhorse in San Angelo TX

Fri doing double duty w/Thunderosa and Love Mound at Bashful Bandit in Tucson AZ

Sat w/Thunderosa and Love Mound at Chooper Johns in Phx AZ.

Anyone in AZ should come out, these will be fun shows!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on December 11, 2014, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: agent of change on December 10, 2014, 08:15:44 PM
I wouldn't pay towards their space to play in the band. Driving an hour is enough of a $ commitment, and questionable in itself.

Yeah, paying $85 a month on top of driving 122 miles round trip once a week would be a bit much. I told them right up front though that I probably couldn't afford $85 a month, but they told me they were planning on getting out of where they are due to rent going up and the place being a dump. I told myself I'd give it a month, 4 practices, and see how I feel and where it's going.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 13, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Vega bass player. He's a little into vintage Peavey gear. The loudest band last night by far.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10367807_10205171013612200_304545521257370485_n.jpg?oh=8d2b13ca7fc2129e2641a61344a68e19&oe=553E9003&__gda__=1426066492_813454fa1c8764dbd825715553ac3783)

https://vegawi.bandcamp.com
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on December 14, 2014, 10:43:16 AM
Cool, vintage Peavey stuff is pretty cool, real working class amps.  The first punk band I was in, I think we all used Peavey...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 14, 2014, 12:23:31 PM
I still have a Peavey Backstage


























































































Plus :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 16, 2014, 12:42:10 PM
Strong Ocean of Stars rehearsal yesterday! Looking forward to the gig tomorrow.

Was asked by my DJ friend if I'd come by Local Licks tonight last minute to promote the show, but alas I cannot as I'm playing tonight.

Also was contacted by another DJ about getting some music to play as well as promote the show tomorrow.

Progress!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 17, 2014, 05:34:57 PM
Ocean of Stars on the Austin Music Minute, KUT-FM

http://kutx.org/austin-music-minute/rock-the-cosmos
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 17, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
Nice dude!  Have a good show tonight!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 17, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
Thanks man. This has definitely helped me feel more stoked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 18, 2014, 11:47:57 PM
Last night was a resounding success.

Played a strong set. Response and feedback overwhelmingly positive. Good crowd for a Wednesday in mid December!

A dear friend gave me this huge vote of approval: "This is the most amazing thing you've ever been involved in... the music is like something out of a dream!" Wow!!

Photo by Kristy Duff Wallace

(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10862513_10205385946829626_4569070172736508040_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)
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Post by: jibberish on December 22, 2014, 08:29:33 AM
you guys look pretty badass. nice pic.
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I like checking out dee Snyder's "house of hair" show on sun nite.  actually, now with devo finesse at 5 and dave koz at 10am. sunday is good radio day heh.

anyway, all dee played for his entire show were metal band versions of xmas carols. that was really cool. he did his homework. seriously obscure stuff was dug up, and I was super pleased above hope on hope that he would play King Diamond's "no presents for xmas" and sonovabitch , he did. fuckin a. I heard king diamond on the fucking iheart radio. fuckin a.

I haven't heard KD on the radio since Z-rock existed in the 80's. z-rock got me through Cleveland state days.  KD, AC/DC, tons of Sabbath, man-o-war heh.  I was crushed when that went off the air.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 22, 2014, 11:28:27 AM
Quote from: jibberish on December 22, 2014, 08:29:33 AM
you guys look pretty badass. nice pic.
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anyway, all dee played for his entire show were metal band versions of xmas carols. that was really cool.

I haven't heard KD on the radio since Z-rock existed in the 80's. z-rock got me through Cleveland state days.  KD, AC/DC, tons of Sabbath, man-o-war heh.  I was crushed when that went off the air.



Totally DG.  Nice work.

Jibs, I can't think of anything else I'd rather not hear.  Ick!  But yeah Z-rock ruled.  M-m-m-Mad Max Hammer!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 22, 2014, 02:33:16 PM
Guitar? Resonator? Banjo?

Bojotar.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 22, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
"If it ain't metal, IT'S CRAP!!!" heh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on December 22, 2014, 10:12:43 PM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 23, 2014, 11:42:27 AM
did battery patrol. anything with a battery got checked and battery removed.
the batteries in the cry-baby and the roadkill were about to explode. good call.
also got the battery out of the emg schecter, the taylor and metal zone heavy metal....dammit....

3/5 are good.   

they actually put a Duracell alkaline in the taylor.  not some heavy duty battery from wing wang erectric company like every other product had in it..

I do not want corrosive exploded battery spooge inside my toys.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 23, 2014, 12:39:46 PM
My upstairs rig for the next few days.  Just trying to spend some quality time with my Moog.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_24451_zps3314ba69.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_24451_zps3314ba69.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 23, 2014, 09:09:21 PM
I can dig that.  the sub37 is a hell of a toy. looking forward to a couple sample recordings of some cool shit you find.
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I have been playing these 2 acoustics which I never had before (well playable), there is no doubt regarding the difference a-z between the Ibanez and the taylor.

the Ibanez is killer for what it is. plays great, tunes great.  decently full sound. that's where it ends.  but the ibanez is sitting out on a stand for ez2 grab and go and i wont cry (much) if a nephew gives it a belt rash or a ding in the headstock.  i actually have more playing time in on the ibanez from just noodling here and there.  looking forward to some acoustic jams with either my son or nephew.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 26, 2014, 06:36:02 PM
I thought I lost my Moog shirt.  I found it this morning.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 27, 2014, 04:27:00 PM
Recorded Grotto's(Cuda/Bongzilla members) live set and interview last night on WORT radio here with my Tascam DR-03 but ALL of the files are corrupted. Fantastic. Piece of fucking shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 27, 2014, 08:06:57 PM
That octave pedal I bought might not be the best but it tracks well enough for one note at a time riffing. Working on a new song where I use it on most of the riffs and it really fills in the frequencies when on the higher strings on one octave down mode. With the Hyper Fuzz it sounds more organ than synth like to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 29, 2014, 03:56:11 AM
I see a used 2001 red wine LP studio in GC used gear for $899.   
those do hold some value.  they were about $1200 new in 2000 when I got one.
I cant believe that thing is 15 yrs old already. but that puts the timing on when my son started playing, as I got him his 1st guitar(s) even before then. so he started at about 7-8 yrs old.

fwiw, that thing was not the most solid factory setup. I had to work on it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 31, 2014, 12:47:14 PM
Playing the final gig of the year tonight (wx permitting, even tho it is inside) with my lady (soul-drenched singer songwriter).

I helped her put the backing band for this one together, featuring an incestuous lot of players I'm in other bands with: drummer is in Ocean of Stars and we're two other bands together, bass player is the guitar player from Bleu Edmondson Band.

I'm on lead guitar which is cool, I've done a few gigs with her on bass already.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 31, 2014, 03:52:10 PM
Time to change the strings on the OM and the resonator.

On the reso I'm trying these new D'addario Flat tops, which are polished to reduce finger/slide noise.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 02, 2015, 03:14:31 AM
this upped keyboard practice schedule on top of guitar is really pushing my left hand to its limits.
sucks to just have to stop playing simply because you cant anymore for the day. fingers start locking up n shit.
lots of big octave stuff and chord patterns.  right hand gets to skate picking strings and melodies.   

rh guitars are really lh guitars. now that pisses me off. heh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 02, 2015, 02:52:04 PM
The Flat Tops definitely sound & feel really nice on the resonator—they definitely reduce finger & slide noise as advertised.

Finger noise can be pretty annoying on roundwound strings on the reso, esp. new ones.

Now, no more "screet!!!"  8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 02, 2015, 04:54:34 PM
Boss is going on ebay. Electro Harmonix Pitch Fork ordered. I have high hopes.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 02, 2015, 05:05:56 PM
Finally.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 02, 2015, 05:29:49 PM
Yeah it glitches out a little even on single notes because of overtones and what not. That won't cut it for recording. NOT truly polyphonic.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 02, 2015, 10:14:03 PM
I wonder if a more powerful pitch shifter function would work better. there are vst's etc that shift everything. just set it for -12
I don't know about latency tho... depends on the complexity of the calculations I guess.

has anyone messed with like a vocal processor with guitars/bass/kbd?   those are pretty powerful audio engines.

edit:

btw, I scored a couple strings of 50 LED xmas lights on clearance.   heh.  those are more fun that all the music toys.  a couple strings of those white ones makes a decent ambient light.

I got 2 warm white and one cool white strings. those 3  4.8 watt strings of lights softly light the entire normal sized room, and they are quit beautiful. fuckin a.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 03, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Quote from: jibberish on January 02, 2015, 10:14:03 PM
I wonder if a more powerful pitch shifter function would work better. there are vst's etc that shift everything. just set it for -12
I don't know about latency tho... depends on the complexity of the calculations I guess.

If the Pitch Fork is truly polyphonic I'll be good. I don't know what vst's are but if it's any type of computer thing that won't work for me live.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 04, 2015, 08:28:37 PM
Just finally got this back from the shop.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10896346_10204645550892668_5517554766631100403_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)

Fired her up in a rehearsal last night. Sounded great!

Whereas I have been running my SWR backup into the Dietz and their Mesa 2x15, last night I ran just the SVT and the Dietz and still had to turn down to keep from drowning out both guitar players \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Andrew Blakk on January 06, 2015, 01:49:22 PM
Oh well. We were to record some bass today. Uhm, before christmas our engineer's soundcard broke.
This time it was another thing that broke right int the middle of everything. And since we're recording at our place everythings stops until it's fixed. No spares. :-\


The glorious adventures of a DIY album recording.   :'( :D

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on January 08, 2015, 11:39:01 AM
Danny, that's a serious amp right there.  Damn....

I think our bassist is getting a new rig, he's got a couple of the newer SVT models, though I think he's getting a newer Orange now.


Andrew, home recording is definitely an adventure.  Honestly (and this is going to sound a little weird....), I kind of like the chaos and uncertainty of it at times.  It drives my creativity in certain ways.


We wrote a new song at practice yesterday, I had some riffs kicking around.  I really like it,  it's different, and that's what I've been going for personally with my writing.  It sounds like Fugazi mixed with Joy Division and Queens Of The Stone Age, though I have a really tasty rip-off/rehash of the main riff from Electric Funeral at the end.  Old habits die hard....  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2015, 02:04:06 PM
Hadn't jammed with or talked to my drummer since before xmas.  Talked last night.  He's super tore up about his recent break up of 12 years and being alone and was lamenting about not having much to do and being lonely and was so glad that we are playing music so at least he has that....... :-\ So even though I'm somewhat reluctant to do the band thing I'm kinda stuck.  I'm super waffley about the whole thing but I'll keep it going out of being a friend.  Good thing he's a fukn killer drummer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 10, 2015, 08:02:37 AM
I spent some time tweaking 3 string patches with 3 sets of effects to get something to work like a mellotron on "changes".  I can get a freaked out swirl of detuned crap going, but it just wasn't working.   

then I thought about this video someone linked where a dude made a strat sound like tin can ass. screwed up eq and everything, like it was played over the phone bandpass sound.
then he put it in the mix, and it sat like a boss. it was great.

so I started with clean string patches onto the piano and eased certain effects onto them a little at a time, until it started sounding a whole lot like the recording.
to listen to the plain string patches after I got them dialed in, I never would have stopped at that point because it sounds really lame, almost flat bad, and nothing like a mellotron.

now to get my 12-step samba dance moves in order. especially since they used more than the one octave the 12-step has. really good thing the song is key of c since the 12-step is octaved on the c (hey! actually it is a 13-step)

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Saturday+really cold = music + little projects all day long.  and be a pest on srl of course.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 10, 2015, 01:46:01 PM
Finally tried out the SVT under combat conditions last night.

Still dialing it in as the EQ-ing responds a little differently now that repairs have been made.

Ran like a champ, great range of dynamics even with my old ass bass strings.

Good to have it back!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 10, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
Had our first practice with the new bass side rig last night and I actually turned it down a good bit from near clipping after awhile because it was just too loud. It thunders and sounds excellent. Two 15s are plenty loud with enough power and these are a little smaller than most 4x10 size models. Also got the EH Pitch Fork today and so far it's sounding quite good and tracking well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Andrew Blakk on January 11, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
Woohoo! Finally some luck on our side. All the bass tracks are now recorded! Finally!  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: MichaelZodiac on January 11, 2015, 12:52:18 PM
We're rewriting our set so that at the end of March we can present a new set and hopefully some recordings to the people. In the months that we are now a 2 piece we quickly found out we need something more. And while we had a synth guy before that, he had to check himself into rehab so that we were 2 piece. We tried working with other people on synth but nothing really materialized. Our old synth guy is now back on track and although he hasn't touched a synth in 8 months, he showed up out of nowhere at rehearsal on friday having heard we were rehearsing at our usual spot. He came in and my first reaction was asking if he wanted to jam, he quickly got his stuff at his place around the corner and we jammed hard. So we're back to our "original line-up" it seems, whatever that is. Finishing this rewriting and record something.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 11, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck. SVT still making an intermittent squeal.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 11, 2015, 10:24:06 PM
Quote from: Danny G on January 11, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck. SVT still making an intermittent squeal.
embrace the noise and feedback. learn how to us it to your advantage. look at it as a positive not a negative..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 12, 2015, 08:10:40 AM
I found something that maybe could be driven by a synthesizer CV out (analog control voltage)

a dimmable LED driver for 9-14 3watt LED's so you can fuck up the lighting in time with your bleep bloop gyrations analog style.
http://www.rapidled.com/mean-well-eln-60-48d-dimmable-driver/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 12, 2015, 06:45:01 PM
Quote from: Danny G on January 11, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
Fuck. SVT still making an intermittent squeal.

One note squeal or one that moves about a bit? Had an issue with SVT doing that, buncha people poked aout in it, was one of the caps dying and fucking up sometimes. Super inaccessible one, because SVTs are a pain in the nuts to work on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 12, 2015, 06:55:23 PM
It sounds like a microphonic tube or tube socket. You only hear it when I'm not playing (there's the solution haha). Pounding on top of the amp makes it stop for a little while.

Had all the filter caps (originals) replaced, new power tubes, most pre's replaced too and some solder joints were touched up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 12, 2015, 08:09:49 PM
I'd start with cleaning the sockets.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 12, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
Shit. I don't want to take it apart! :/


I'll get thru the next two weekends of shows then take it back to the tech.

He hasn't charged me a penny for the two times I've taken it back since the initial retube/cap job, as it was technically a return on a repair. He's been really really cool about it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 12, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: Danny G on January 12, 2015, 06:55:23 PM
It sounds like a microphonic tube or tube socket. You only hear it when I'm not playing (there's the solution haha). Pounding on top of the amp makes it stop for a little while.

Had all the filter caps (originals) replaced, new power tubes, most pre's replaced too and some solder joints were touched up.

Have you tried using a chopstick to tap on all the tubes will it's on and cranked to see if you can make it squeal?
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 12, 2015, 10:53:37 PM
Yeah, one of the first things i did.

The whole preamp section is microphonic, and several of the 6-7 tubes up there have been swapped. Hence probably a socket at this point.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 13, 2015, 12:47:39 AM
danny, is there no solid state bass amp that is decent sounding to you?  
that svt seems like a lemon and money pit.

1000w hartke? or 750 or wtf the big one is.

ok it is the 1000. what is wrong with this? it has a tube pre.

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-HAR-LH1000?src=Y0802G00SRCHCAPN&gclid=CPDB2KyikMMCFSxgMgodUTkAKw

(http://www.americanmusical.com/ItemImages/Large/HAR%20LH1000.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 13, 2015, 01:55:39 AM
Orange Terror? Aguilar Tone Hammer? Markbass Whatever? Different amp?
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 13, 2015, 03:21:06 AM
Not a money pit and ANYTHING but a lemon.

It's been a beast, and ten years of hard use have caught up with it.

If you heard my rig first hand you would understand why it's worth the maintenance.

It slays everything listed in the previous two posts and other brands that haven't. Old Acoustic and Sunn get a pass, but those are a bit too dirty/not road case friendly.


I liken my rig to the Millenium Falcon
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 13, 2015, 03:36:01 AM
Quote from: Danny G on January 12, 2015, 10:53:37 PM
Yeah, one of the first things i did.

The whole preamp section is microphonic, and several of the 6-7 tubes up there have been swapped. Hence probably a socket at this point.

Well I hope you get it sorted out, sounds like you are getting close narrowing it down.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 13, 2015, 03:43:03 AM
Thanks.

That SVT-II I have? That thing is a fuckin lemon. Damn shame. Sounded almost as good as the SVT while it briefly worked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 13, 2015, 03:57:59 AM
practice break.

hey chief, I guess I was misinterpreting the feel of your recent posts and evidently confused on your amp details.
so it is like the old married guy bitching about something his wife was doing that irritates the fuck out of him, but he wouldn't leave her for anything the world in the big picture.
didn't mean to get your back against the wall on your amp.  it's the other amp that really bummed you out. well, you can't accuse me of not trying to keep up heh.

i'm stoked for rager. that last jam has potential. yeah

so, i'm getting a lot more comfy with the 12-step mini-foot controller thing. muscle memory is muscle memory and it is just a "put some reps in to burn the shit into my thick skull" thing. I can do that.  I also have found that it plays the best with smaller/thin soled shoes vs air jordans or doc martins or bare feet or gold toes heh.
the buttons are x wide and the space between buttons is like 2x, so it is really easy to miss in bare feet.

my little cheap shit deck shoes or chucks are most excellent. it sort of gives you wide toes. also there is a sweet spot for foot position where your shoe toe is just up on the "black keys" maybe halfway and rock the ball of your foot on the white key buttons onto your toe for the black key buttons. that is actually fast considering the clunky size.

I still have to get an organ pedalboard controller because there, sitting on a piano bench(which I got out because i'm about to get serious heh), you actually swing your leg like a pendulum side to side and extend your foot.  that is fast and natural feeling. gotta have a bench tho because you actually have to slide around on it.  actually a full 88 key keyboard you need a bench too to stay in front of the keys sometimes. 61 keys is ok in a chair.

I could jack the pedalboard out of my Hammond but I just don't want to chop that thing quite yet. it is a 1959 (not a b-3 dammit, but like the baby bro to it c-5? no waitr that's explosives, i'd have to look)
I pulled the tube amps, but I think I still want to oil it up and put buffers on the low level outs to the amps and run into the mixer instead. then I wouldn't need a Hammond simulator. I would have a genuine full 2 register with stops and drawbars Hammond.   shit I could piggyback MIDI controllers on the footpedals without fucking anything up.
oh fuckin a...yeah.  there are plenty of how-to's online. without the power amps in the back of the Hammond, there is a huge volume of storage room in there too haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 13, 2015, 04:10:14 AM
No worries Jib, and thanks \m/,


The thought of having to replace it concerns me, but considering this is the only lingering problem it's had this entire time, I think once the problem is remedied that fucker will outlive me.

Just... holy shit it's a great amp!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 13, 2015, 04:39:32 PM
Guitar players being out of tune live is an epidemic these days. Tune up every few songs or you know, when you notice that you are out of tune. If you can't tell then tune up at least every other song or so.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 13, 2015, 04:59:33 PM
^ This.

And FOR FUCK'S SAKE GET A GODDAMN FLOOR TUNER PEDAL!!! DON'T TUNE YOUR SHIT BY EAR BETWEEN SONGS AT FULL VOLUME YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!

//end rant
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 13, 2015, 05:06:46 PM
On Jib's subject of SS bass amps:

One of the problems I run into with rackmount SS amps (own an SWR as a backup) is that my Dietz 2x15 has only 400w worth of speakers (EVs). They sound like the love of an all powerful and benevolent God.

I used to have a Fender TB-600, which I actually loved quite a bit. But I *had* to sell it, as it was 600w and was already blowing the 600w worth of speakers in my old Isovent cabinet, which is still disassembled in my storage unit.

The SWR is alright but overheats easily. I have a new run Acoustic 200BH which I LOVED, but it is also built like a toy and has ceased functioning altogether twice now. And it's not rackmountable unless I chopped the enclosure for it. But it's already broken again so there ya go. Great sounding, but at the end of the day not a road-worthy amp.

Have tried many other brands of SS or hybrid amps, and the SVT always slays them. Hands down, no contest.

Ampeg SS I have never been impressed by. However, I do LOVE Trace-Elliot products. If I could trade the SWR for a 300-400w TE straight up, I would in a heartbeat.

The SWR I have works. But when the SVT has been in dry dock I usually use my JCM800 as a bass amp and still have the SWR as a backup. Even the Marshall sounds better than the SWR.

//The Riddle of Tone
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 13, 2015, 11:56:29 PM
A couple of new 400 or 500 watt 15s wouldn't set you back too much. The Eminence website is good for numbers and they respond quickly to email questions.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 14, 2015, 12:07:56 AM
I went easy on the guitar distortion when tracking our last ep to avoid over saturation. In the mix the tone wasn't gainy enough however so we used this Sansamp plugin to get pretty close to my normal rig tone. I would have preferred that the end final result was a little more brutal but I'm pretty happy. This video shows the plugin although with vocals.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 14, 2015, 12:33:20 AM
But dude. Those EVs sound so damn good! :D

Had Ocean of Stars rehearsal tonight and the bassist used my rig.

Didn't hear the sound once. :/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on January 14, 2015, 04:09:59 AM
Danny you should try the Genz Benz MB500/MB800 really nice sounding amps for solid state...  The MB800 and the Terror bass are about as good as solid state gets.  Unless you have a lot of money and get an EBS Fafner 2 which sounds amazing but is hilariously priced.  Or get a T21 VT Bass as a cheapass backup just in case. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 14, 2015, 10:48:19 AM
Appreciate all the suggestions y'all \m/,

Hopefully I won't be in a position to necessitate gear shopping any time soon, but will revisit all these responses if need be.

I should elaborate that the intermittent high pitched squeal isn't affecting the actual performance of the amp. More just an annoying background noise. Not the end of the world but that needs to be remedied haha

If I did splurge on another amp right now, I'd probably get an old V-4/Marshall/good Peavy or some variant of a 100w tube head for use as a dual purpose guitar/bass amp.

With Ocean of Stars I run two amps (second is currently the bassists old Fender Champ II), and I have both my other Marshall 4x12 languishing in my storage unit and an Ampeg 4x10 going unused.

My JCM800 sounds great as a backup bass amp, but man I burned the power tubes out quick using it as such. A secondary tube head would help lighten that load.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 14, 2015, 01:31:59 PM
Fender makes a 300 watt tube model although new they are quite pricey. I don't know how long they've been making those. I would imagine they have ridiculous headroom even for bass.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 14, 2015, 02:55:18 PM
80s Fender Dual showman/Peavey ultra+ have been my bass amps forever. Before that, a jcm800 and a two channel dual rec.

Occasionally ill break out my acoustic 370.

Old peaveys make great bass amps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 14, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
I've probably mentioned it but my bass amp is my Super Twin.  Works great.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 15, 2015, 10:33:32 AM
Sweet!

Some of the best recorded bass tone I've ever achieved is running the chassis of my 15w Epiphone Valve Std into an Ampeg 4x10
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 15, 2015, 12:42:42 PM
Do you guys ever notice a lack of low note clarity when only using 100 watts for bass at high volumes?
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 15, 2015, 02:21:37 PM
Sometimes, but I play bass more like Lemmy, and less like other bassists. Meaning, lots of mids, minimum highs, and moderate lows.
Title: Re:
Post by: Dylan Thomas on January 15, 2015, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 15, 2015, 12:42:42 PM
Do you guys ever notice a lack of low note clarity when only using 100 watts for bass at high volumes?


Yes, I do, and....


Quote from: VOLVO))) on January 15, 2015, 02:21:37 PM
Sometimes, but I play bass more like Lemmy, and less like other bassists. Meaning, lots of mids, minimum highs, and moderate lows.

Ditto that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 16, 2015, 05:03:17 AM
practicing sets of songs to develop technique sure gets boring, especially when the songs aren't really what I am really wanting to play.

Christmas carols is what i'm talking about. heh.  but those are the only sort of complicated songs I know cold to work on keyboard techniques without the song getting in the way.


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crying aside, diligent practice always pays off and I can tell that it's coming back.  especially nailing keys way far down the keyboard. that's so frustrating to keep missing a long jump.

but still, time out for some trancy ambient record-n-go jams as a fun break.

I still haven't recorded the taylor acoustic yet either.    large diaphragm mic + DI for some effects should sound nice.   that thing has a nice detailed voice when being delicate. 

so much to do and try...fuck. who's idea was that stupid stupid concept called sleep? dammit.

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question: any special tricks to tapping junk Ibanez humbuckers to make a surf music guitar out of one of my junk whammy Ibanez's? should you use either half over the other half or that sort of thing. do any pot/cap values need to be changed for life in single coil land? I want to lend preference to the single coil setup vs double even if I put a tap switch in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 16, 2015, 09:44:59 AM
If the humbucker has cool tap wires, that's easy enough to do. Especially since you just want to tap the pickup instead of doing and weird fancy wiring.

Wiring diagrams for diff setups are readily available online.

If humbucker isn't tapable you'll have to replace it. In that case I'd say do some research and see what lends itself to surf-rock sounds when tapped.

Either SD or Dimarzio makes a humbucker that has a rail AND a P-90. That might be cool to try.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 17, 2015, 05:11:02 AM
ok, I will try the simple  "snip" "solder", repeat, done, as a first go and see where I am at after that.
that should be good enough to start playing around with the surf music. the guitars play great, well Ibanez.  they just sound lame


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on January 17, 2015, 11:01:40 AM
Shit, I really should practice keys again.  We used to use them live in the early Palace days, and I could still improv Pink Floyd style organ stuff and whatnot.  I played a lot of organs/keys/piano/etc on The Apostles Of Silence, though that was almost ten years ago.  I did a few organ and lead keyboard lines in some Black Pyramid songs, though nothing improvised or too complicated.  I'm really out of practice these days, and your mention of practicing, jibberish, is reminding me of how badly I sucked last time I touched a piano.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 18, 2015, 04:26:32 AM
practice practice practice heh. besides, it's fun actually playing something.

I have been soaking in surf music. some of the more obscure stuff is really cool as I dig around and it really is helping to round out the overall vibe of that whole scene.
the drummers are all psychos and they pushed all their reverbs n crap to the max with springs twanging etc. they started using simple oscillators on their telstar type space songs.
I found a song where they use a fuzzface on a 1963 song.  they just hit long sustains with it. pretty cool.

so now that I have my twang tank, and soon a twang guitar, this hodad is off to the beach.  yeah   surfers vs greasers
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 18, 2015, 09:20:50 AM
My modular case, power supply, and harness arrive tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on January 18, 2015, 12:08:15 PM
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y387/agencyofchange/blood_zps1ad52999.jpg) (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/agencyofchange/media/blood_zps1ad52999.jpg.html)

I may need to start wearing red clothes instead of white for our shows. The floor tom head is quite spattered as well. Forgot to tape a knuckle I had already nicked on the ride cymbal. During the show I couldn't change my grip on the drumstick or it would have slipped out of my hand.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on January 18, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
Yes! That's extremely rock n roll.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 18, 2015, 10:28:43 PM
^This.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 19, 2015, 04:10:52 AM
no, this: \m/  \m/

is it too early to start the 2015 golden varglobe award nominations?
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so I was paying attention to how my rolling task chair was doing while I played notes all up and down the keyboard(61 key only)
I definitely swivel it and roll sideways a few inches either way. I endorse a rolling task chair as a ghetto piano bench. it works fine because it allows you to slide laterally and turn at times just like on a nice piano bench.

also you can lean back after an intense go to stretch your poor hunched spine and not smash the back of your skull from falling off the bench backwards heh.

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here's a hot one, nyuk nyuk nyuk.  a modular with a "real tube feel" as in keeps your fingers warm

(http://www.trogotronic.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/m_679_12x12.jpg)



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 19, 2015, 10:50:01 AM
Busy week shaping up.

Two, possibly three rehearsals with 2 or three diff bands, including Ocean of Stars who need to prep for first road gig (40 miles out of town heh) on Friday with a live appearance on the Dave TV show Saturday afternoon. Saturday night playing bass with Thunderosa in San Antonio.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 20, 2015, 01:49:24 AM
Sweet. Just picked up Ocean of Stars gig for Fri Jan 30. Now we have something to promote on the TV appearance \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 22, 2015, 04:15:05 AM
hope that gives good exposure for you.
hey , you can stage wardrobe malfunctions if you are on the tube for even more exposure. 8D
get talked about all over texas real fast heh.

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I found some actual real piano music for "great gig in the sky" only the first page like to the key change, BUT it's a start.
that's a badass little piano piece.

Caveat Emptor: i'm not sure any one of those videos where some clown shows you how to play "changes" or "great gig in the sky" are actually correct.
I have more faith in the original sheet music versions at this point. why wouldn't one of those tards learn it correctly verbatim then make a video.

probly no one wants to buy the sheet music so they fake it off the album.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 22, 2015, 10:35:23 AM
Heh

We do have a quite fetching female bassist, but I seriously doubt she'd be down to show a boob ;)
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2015, 12:12:25 PM
Is she a lesbian bass player?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 22, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
No. hahahaha!
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2015, 12:27:48 PM
Bummer.
Title: Re:
Post by: spookstrickland on January 22, 2015, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on January 22, 2015, 12:27:48 PM
Bummer.

Ditto
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 22, 2015, 04:17:38 PM
Expanded guitar pedal rig for Ocean of Stars gigs, added auxiliary pedalboard for ABY, Loop Station and its remote swtch.

Lot of real estate...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10945005_10155093078650246_8005692791107547463_n.jpg?oh=cbd3a24a7d02812782cfbbaff107b53e&oe=55684F2F&__gda__=1433229113_7fc30afd5d57b9155e75250b6d531cbb)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 22, 2015, 11:12:25 PM
cool, you got it sorted. looks clean too.

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this namm times is fun times, need to get away from the computer already
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 22, 2015, 11:31:43 PM
any bass players here ever get into using short scale basses. ive been thinking about it lately for the reduced weight and back strain..
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 23, 2015, 12:49:48 AM
Too muddy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 23, 2015, 02:24:38 AM
If I was playing bass in a band that tuned in the E to D range I'd look into something short and light with a small thin neck. I fooled around with one that was probably 27 or 28" scale at guitar center a few months back and it was a lot of fun and super easy to play. Didn't weigh more than a mid-weight guitar. I remember the Epi short scale SG bass being neck heavy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 23, 2015, 03:29:21 AM
I didn't go but here are some pics from Galactic Hatchet's 'Peavey Henge' show in honor of Peavey's 50th

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10405376_1519344434996377_3068870274089688304_n.jpg?oh=e8bb40780d19dfad976f5e72bc99c412&oe=5569D6B0&__gda__=1432195643_87a7940f615a47764e7b70ae383196af)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10947214_10206082170517259_3539103500214557164_n.jpg?oh=eb7ec1b8db1c9a7e7619f1d50e34d08f&oe=55250750&__gda__=1432129285_0e853691a756398e7372fae7c9528d66)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1505288_10206082170877268_6880709501365725923_n.jpg?oh=efcf9d35ef79e96b0fa663c59e9919ff&oe=552DB382&__gda__=1433200905_4a5c08609dc78797b31eedde7d8d3300)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 23, 2015, 07:06:03 AM
that looks loud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 23, 2015, 10:26:09 AM
Surprised the stage didn't collapse from the weight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 23, 2015, 10:58:30 AM
Quote from: mortlock on January 22, 2015, 11:31:43 PM
any bass players here ever get into using short scale basses. ive been thinking about it lately for the reduced weight and back strain..

What about one of those new Squier Jaguar basses? They are sooper inexpensive, a few different models (different pickup configurations to choose from). Get yourself to a Guitar Barn.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 23, 2015, 12:51:43 PM
I like the hippie style paint jobs being offered here (about 5 different ones shown):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-painted-Precision-Fender-American-standard-bass-USA-guitar-vintage-design-/400848489933?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-painted-Precision-Fender-American-standard-bass-USA-guitar-vintage-design-/400848489933?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 23, 2015, 03:40:47 PM
Rigged this high-tech method of interlocking the two pedalboards together. I'm a problem-solver.

(https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/1939580_10155096304205246_8429924760764393301_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=ca1202c6899cfc802f67d14a8bcc6892&oe=5561A449&__gda__=1432795161_0796ee3eda6044d3eec8495c170ae623)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 23, 2015, 03:51:51 PM
Nice, but I would have use wrought iron for a more cvlt look.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 23, 2015, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 22, 2015, 11:31:43 PM
any bass players here ever get into using short scale basses. ive been thinking about it lately for the reduced weight and back strain..

Like liquid smoke said, if you're not going to down tune much, they're great. Jack Bruce used short scale for all that Cream shit, and you can hear a whole lotta definition in his tone rather than muddiness...
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Post by: VOLVO))) on January 23, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
Thought he used a Fender Bass VI? I dont know if I count that as a bass...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 23, 2015, 04:17:25 PM
Free guy used a short scale bass too. They're thumpy. If you're playing thrash, it might sound muddy. But if you're playing thrash you probably don't care about "good tone".
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 23, 2015, 04:18:19 PM
I'm a total Jack Bruce Bruce freak. He used the Fender Bass VI for most of Fresh Cream before moving on to the short scale Gibson EB-3, which he used for the rest. Later in his career he was using Warwick fretless, also short scale, I believe.

EDIT: The Warwick is the Thumb Bass Model, which is traditional long scale.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 24, 2015, 05:24:41 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 23, 2015, 12:51:43 PM
I like the hippie style paint jobs being offered here (about 5 different ones shown):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-painted-Precision-Fender-American-standard-bass-USA-guitar-vintage-design-/400848489933?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-painted-Precision-Fender-American-standard-bass-USA-guitar-vintage-design-/400848489933?&_trksid=p2056016.m2516.l5255)


Very cool. I'd like an SG done up this way for the psychedelic band I keep not forming.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 24, 2015, 02:17:34 PM
Ocean of Stars had a great set at the Triple Crown last night. Yay!

(https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-0/10929562_10204792150037555_6957951127945847850_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=efac80f0643028990464026bad0cae43&oe=556DA333&__gda__=1432682342_75dc3b4d41a4bcb6e8a054b2b082a49c)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 24, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
it almost looks like you could pin the two hinge sets together on your pedalboard heh.

stoked to watch your set.
looking forward to only wardrobe malfunctions and nothing else.


now that I have learned changes and clocks, i'm starting to realize that these types of rock piano are just glorified basslines. arpeggiated chords. that's it.
I wont learn clocks exactly. way too boring 3 chord wonder except for the bridge. both took all of 10 minutes to get the gist of it. they are both really pretty songs too.

great gig in the sky is a piano piece and it's going to take a while to get that one in the bag. if I was a god, I could play the vocal line with the piano part...channeling emerson, wakeman and liberace...come in...do you copy...(sounds like a pack of lawyers heh)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 24, 2015, 10:19:00 PM
Nice bass drum head. :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 25, 2015, 03:30:54 AM
ok , so I sped up the pieces parts of that coldplay clocks song. I like to play a new thing I learn a few days in a row to lock it in. just repeat the riffs until they smooth out, then throw it on the shelf with the rest.

boring, but very pretty, BUT I have a potential good use for it I believe
  it is in some strange b flat minor/f minor e flat zone.
from jamming with my pal and his trombone for so long, I have to think in terms of b flat and f because that is the concert tuning of a trombone.
I think this would be a good one for me to go full wall with that piano part and see how phatt i can make those riffs while my buddy noodles some psych trombone through the delay and pitch shifters n shit.

here's a thought in case anyone tangles with brass in one of their band situations (woodwinds are similar but different animals, but I guess this philosophy of bugle applies there too)
in a way, a horn is identical to a guitar on how the notes are broken down in the various strings. the strings are all tuned relative to each other in a pattern, and between open strings, you have places to influence the open string to get the notes between it and the next open string up(frets obviously)

ok a horn uses harmonics from blatting into the mouthpiece heh. a bugle has harmonic points that form a major chord. listen to all those bugle tunes like taps and revile and well, anything that a bugle plays it has to play on a major chord because that's the 3 notes a bugle can play. the size of the instrument and to an extent, the mouthpiece size, determine the playable range of octaves of these 3 notes. super lip dudes can get higher registers because they can get the extreme blatt going and get an extra octave or whatever

on the bottom, you can cheat and get a pedal tone which is below the actual range of the instrument. standard trombone is a b flat. they have a baritone trombone(think adding b string to your guitar) which goes the next notch down to F, just like adding that string.

horns get all the in-between notes from changing the length of the plumbing the air blatt  goes through. trumpet valves just cut in and out, different lengths of pipes.
the 'bone has the slide which varies the length continuously.   I have seen trombones with valves and the slide.  I appreciate the crazy shit you could do with that.

so , if you have to arrange with brass in mind, determine the concert tuning key and the lowest note or pedal tone that horn can play. you have to deal with those constraints.
a horn can play any note, but stuff like bugle runs, you have to set those up for the specific horn, or if you want to really take advantage of horns droning, they drone best in their natural key....maybe this helps, maybe this gives you a headache..heh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 25, 2015, 03:44:44 AM
joann castle.  something from when I was very young.  I was blown away by her mad piano skillz. and at that point in time, I had not seen much of the world around me at all.
liberace freaked me out when he played 2 different songs at once on the piano on some tv show.  I was really impressed by that. and man I was a little kid too. but still mad skillz is mad skillz.

seriously, put this in front of some 6 yr old who seems to have an attraction to music.
fuckin a. this is so badass and in a big fucking costume no less. I will never forget....

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 25, 2015, 04:33:30 AM
^ that is surreal and awesome


Had the second 2 piece gig tonight. I was half drunk and it was so fucking fun. We almost train wrecked it during one song and I don't even care. Headbanging to your own music and going crazy while you play it is something I highly recommend. Also, Moon Curse came over from Milwaukee and destroyed. Life is good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 25, 2015, 05:40:53 AM
(https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10838197_325549344315280_6430270880448475607_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10942985_325549360981945_6075115314045988547_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 25, 2015, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: RAGER on January 23, 2015, 03:51:51 PM
Nice, but I would have use wrought iron for a more cvlt look.

I might still do that \m/,

Now with them interlocked, the problem I'm running into is having them BOTH slide haha ugh
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 26, 2015, 11:33:37 AM
Awww fuck.  I'm sick with a fucking cold so yesterdays practice was shit.  Most of the time I was blowing my nose with one hand while playing synth leads with the other.  Didn't even bother picking up my guitar.  Was gonna get a few ideas tightened up and maybe get a decent recording but......  Hopefully next weekend with be more productive.

It's official.  I've held all basic posts in a band except lead singer and I almost did that once but declined.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Andrew Blakk on January 26, 2015, 11:51:50 AM
How could we miss that the intonation on the bass was all over the place?  ???
Damn, what a rookie mistake we did. Just bring him back in and record the fucking bass once again.



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 26, 2015, 06:48:04 PM
Got earplugs for rest of band, due to drummer's passing out from volume issues. Drummer still has trouble, and guitarist can't  leave his eq alone after putting plugs in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 26, 2015, 07:09:52 PM
No. Don't touch the EQ once the plugs are in... :/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 26, 2015, 10:31:35 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on January 26, 2015, 06:48:04 PM
Got earplugs for rest of band, due to drummer's passing out from volume issues.

???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 27, 2015, 08:00:57 AM
Some folks don't do well at high sound pressure levels.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 27, 2015, 10:58:24 AM
Did he at least inadvertently kick over his whole drumset "Up In Smoke" style when he did?

That woulda been kind cool, heh
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 28, 2015, 12:45:47 AM
so I pushed the tempo to 100bpm on this 2 count Dixieland beat (=200bpm) to play rockin round the xmas tree ragtime style.
I arranged the chords to totally kill my left hand.  I am at the edge of comprehension at this speed. shit has to move so fast. crazy shit.

playing guitar has made my left hand way more skilled than before.  I would tell any piano student to play the guitar on the side. piano pieces generally favor the right hand, especially in the beginning. later they kill both hands heh. but fretting really gets all the fingers much more coordinated.

so this time around, playing keys is extra fun. especially with the honky tonk piano and some warbly reverb effects. this one's for you joann.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Beta Cloud on January 28, 2015, 02:39:08 AM
Quote from: agent of change on January 18, 2015, 12:08:15 PM
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y387/agencyofchange/blood_zps1ad52999.jpg) (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/agencyofchange/media/blood_zps1ad52999.jpg.html)

I may need to start wearing red clothes instead of white for our shows. The floor tom head is quite spattered as well. Forgot to tape a knuckle I had already nicked on the ride cymbal. During the show I couldn't change my grip on the drumstick or it would have slipped out of my hand.

FUCKING WARRIOR. \M/ \M/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 28, 2015, 06:29:19 PM
I traded pedals with a guy on another forum - but his pedal never arrived. What about the tracking number? "I can't find it, it's around here somewhere". And "I've been really depressed lately". ???

Both our pedals are worth $45 each, so it's not the end of the world, but Jesus H...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 29, 2015, 02:01:05 AM
what's so hard about naming and shaming? cut the drama crap. 8D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 29, 2015, 02:37:27 AM
especially if the offender is from a diff forum..i say name and shame and pillage.. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Beta Cloud on January 29, 2015, 04:00:05 AM
wait... there's aNOTHER forum?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 29, 2015, 09:54:42 AM
Quote from: Danny G on January 27, 2015, 10:58:24 AM
Did he at least inadvertently kick over his whole drumset "Up In Smoke" style when he did?

That woulda been kind cool, heh

He just sort of slowly tipped sideways and came round before he came off the stool. It was during a gig so it mostly just put us out of time, but we recovered.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 30, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
There's some talk about one-microphone drum recording techniques in the new Tape Op letters section.

"Large-diaphragm cardioid condenser mic" mounted above the kick drum, aimed at the snare. Mic placed behind the drummer's head (hears what the drummer hears). Etc etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 30, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
Remember Chovie was a big proponent of that technique moreso prolly cuz he just didn't wanna be arsed with dragging out a bunch of mics and shit.  I miss Chovie.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on January 30, 2015, 08:31:36 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 30, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
There's some talk about one-microphone drum recording techniques in the new Tape Op letters section.

"Large-diaphragm cardioid condenser mic" mounted above the kick drum, aimed at the snare. Mic placed behind the drummer's head (hears what the drummer hears). Etc etc.

That's weird hadn't heard that before.  One of the bands I'm in is going to record soon I'll try it for the hell of it.  Previously we did a three mic setup with a kick and an sm57 pointed roughly towards the snare and a condenser placed like 7 feet out from the front of the kit and maybe 5 feet off the ground pointed towards it and it sounded pretty good. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 30, 2015, 11:28:40 PM
speaking of chovie, I went through the post new music thread. I got very sad. chovie posted shit in there.
it's not fair. XXXXXX is gone and pure garbage like shocker still walks

hey rager, I started laughing after I read your post in the drug addict thread.    um, go lurk that thread now. I souped it up, I pressed lots of the old buttons

hey jakeO, shhhh ok. you know I was pushing buttons
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 31, 2015, 01:43:33 PM
Heh, Shocker isn't garbage, you idiot. He's got issues, but he is a good dad. Albeit,  a shitty husband. Whatever. People fuck up, and are fucked up
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 31, 2015, 03:19:25 PM
I'm a selfish prick too but I don't have a wife and kids.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 31, 2015, 06:14:51 PM
Pedal-swap pedal finally arrived today, it took 10 days to travel from CA to NY. ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Beta Cloud on January 31, 2015, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 31, 2015, 06:14:51 PM
Pedal-swap pedal finally arrived today, it took 10 days to travel from CA to NY. ???
wadja' get?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 31, 2015, 06:36:44 PM
Some sorta vibe/tremolo clone that General Guitar Gadgets makes a kit for. I traded a Shin Ei (60s type) fuzz for it. I've got plenty of fuzz, and not enough modulation.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 31, 2015, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: jibberish on January 30, 2015, 11:28:40 PM
speaking of chovie, I went through the post new music thread. I got very sad. chovie posted shit in there.
it's not fair. chovie is gone and pure garbage like shocker still walks

hey rager, I started laughing after I read your post in the drug addict thread.    um, go lurk that thread now. I souped it up, I pressed lots of the old buttons

hey jakeO, shhhh ok. you know I was pushing buttons

Also, if you ever post another fucking thing negatively, and include Chovie, I will personally see to it that you never post on ANY of these fucking boards, again, methboy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2015, 03:48:57 AM
Tracked drums for a song yesterday and we cut a hole in the bass drum, stuffed a bed sheet in there, and positioned my SM57 just outside of the center of the hole. Not exactly 'pro' sounding but it captures a good mix of attack and thump. Best kick tone we've gotten so far. Used a cheap condenser overhead for everything else. Talking about maybe upgrading to a full set of drum mics and the equipment to give each one it's own track for EQing and panning what not.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 01, 2015, 11:02:19 AM
If that's an EA tremolo circuit, it's a real nice pedal.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on February 02, 2015, 12:31:58 PM
Hey folks... new to this forum, but I guess I was around a bit on the old board roughly 5,000 years ago.

I'm going into the studio this weekend to record two tracks and I'm starting to get anxious over my head choice. Anyone ever recorded drums with hydraulic heads on them? How did that go?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 04, 2015, 10:43:32 AM
I might get my Ocatatrack by Saturday.  So fucking stoked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 04, 2015, 12:04:08 PM
Officially switching to guitar for Bleu Edmondson Band.

Very stoked. First gig is this weekend in Houston. The drummer and his lady just had a baby so there will be no rehearsal...

Meeting with the guitar player for 2nd and 3rd time today and tomorrow to hash out parts and work on backing vocals.

This, with all the prep work I did for the Ocean of Stars gigs 23-24 and it now being RPM Challenge time has had me playing more guitar in the past few weeks that I have in the past few years \m/,

Feels good to be back.

I still love playing bass tho, don't get me wrong. Playing Saturday filling in with Eric Tessmer Band. But every other gig I have booked this month is on guitar. That hasn't happened in a long time!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 07, 2015, 04:43:13 PM
"The Highs and Lows of Touring in My Mid-Thirties"

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/highs-and-lows-of-touring-in-my-mid-thirties (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/highs-and-lows-of-touring-in-my-mid-thirties)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on February 07, 2015, 08:34:07 PM
One of the bands I'm in (Hypnochron) is the local support for Karma to Burn/Sierra tour this Thurs in Chicago  :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 08, 2015, 10:49:54 AM
First gig as a guitar player for Bleu Edmondson went awesome. #relieved

And the new bassist is great as well. Upon meeting him I liked him immediately. Great dude and great player.

Really excited about this now, and excited to be back as a guitar player.

Last night filling in with Eric Tessmer Band is/was the only gig I have booked this month as a bass player. And I am ok with that!

I love playing bass and always will, but lately it's been feeling very unchallenging. Stepping back from it will be good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 09, 2015, 03:41:54 PM
Fuck I hate waiting for the UPS guy.  Piece of gear I'm getting today has to have a signature so here I sit here and wait when I could be downstairs jammin or out drinkin and eatin.  Makin patches and sequences on my dx7 upstairs close to the door so's I don't miss 'em.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on February 09, 2015, 05:40:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 09, 2015, 03:41:54 PM
Fuck I hate waiting for the UPS guy.  Piece of gear I'm getting today has to have a signature so here I sit here and wait when I could be downstairs jammin or out drinkin and eatin.  Makin patches and sequences on my dx7 upstairs close to the door so's I don't miss 'em.

I always take package deliveries at work. The truck driver for every company sprints up to my door, rings the doorbell and sprints back to their truck. I've been walking past the door when the bell rang, opened it and seen the truck driving away more than once.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 09, 2015, 05:46:44 PM
It's gotta have a signature so if I miss him it'll be another day or 2 before I can pick it up.  Already been waiting near a week for a 3 day delivery time.  Saw FEDEX drive by the house today but.............ups
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on February 09, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 09, 2015, 05:46:44 PM
It's gotta have a signature so if I miss him it'll be another day or 2 before I can pick it up.  Already been waiting near a week for a 3 day delivery time.  Saw FEDEX drive by the house today but.............ups

They're waiting for you to go take a dump before they knock once and take off.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 10, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
as I mentioned about short scale basses awhile back..i finally went to my local music store and checked out a fender mustang. I was shocked that it didn't seem to weigh much less than a jazz bass. at least not enough to make the switch worth it for my lower back issues..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 16, 2015, 09:20:40 AM
Because they're similar, I spent all weekend switching between open G & open D tunings, trading chord shapes & licks back & forth.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 17, 2015, 12:53:32 AM
Dunlop
(http://www.zozomusic.com/musicstore/pc/catalog/449p.1.14_1_382_general.jpg)
The best.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 17, 2015, 03:36:27 AM
Protect the tubes.
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/mazeofliquidsmoke/wood_zpskiia4fdj.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 18, 2015, 06:32:30 PM
Command Center.  Been trying to spend time when i can wrapping my head around this Octatrack.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_25201_zpsa6494aac.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_25201_zpsa6494aac.jpg.html)

Got a couple modules in the mail yesterday so I'm only a couple months away from having  minimal but functional 2 oscillator modular synth.  Also got a Dj/producer backpack as my messenger bag I used for my laptop was wearing out.  This thing has a bunch of padded pockets and slips for gear and a separate pocket just for headphones.  It's pretty sweet.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/spicoli420_2007/IMG_25221_zpsb55cbaf9.jpg) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/spicoli420_2007/media/IMG_25221_zpsb55cbaf9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: eyeprod on February 18, 2015, 07:11:32 PM
Good idea for a tube protector!

Nice bag, Rager. Looking forward to seeing the modular when it gets ready

Looks like I'm buying a korg DS8 tonight for 80 bucks. I've got a jam happening tonight that should be a good opportunity to try it out. I haven't had a FM synth in years. I hope it's functional so I can practice my latest skills with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: The Riffer on February 18, 2015, 08:24:17 PM
Holy Fuck Rager.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on February 19, 2015, 07:04:57 AM
Album recording is done. Opening for Black Debbath next thursday, then I'm taking a break from touring/gigging for a couple of months. Got a stand-in guitar player for the band so I can concentrate on family/baby girl.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 21, 2015, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: The Riffer on February 18, 2015, 08:24:17 PM
Holy Fuck Rager.

Yeah I know.  And a lot of it I'm still exploring.

And on that note, I think I'm gonna cut my drummer loose for a while.  I need more time woodshedding.  Hopefully when I'm ready to get back into it he'll be down.  Damn indecisive am I.
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Post by: neighbor664 on February 21, 2015, 02:30:08 PM
Rager Wakeman!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 21, 2015, 03:52:36 PM
 :D

My fingers are sore from playing my acoustic this morning for a half hour.  A freaking half hour.  That's how much I play guitar lately.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on February 21, 2015, 04:24:49 PM
Sweet set up Rager ;))

Sounds like you deserve a rest showdown :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on February 21, 2015, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: The Riffer on February 18, 2015, 08:24:17 PM
Holy Fuck Rager.

Second that, that is absolutely nutty, in all the right ways.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 23, 2015, 12:30:11 AM
I know.  It's the mad scientist lab I've always wanted.

Enjoying some very dark times with my Octatrack and assorted gear tonight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 23, 2015, 11:42:58 AM
Played my LP Studio for a Bleu Edmondson gig for the first time in what may be 10 years.

Performance report: Needs a pro setup, action is a little funny after two headstock breaks.

Need to rewire it completely. Neck pickup volume rolled all the way back produces sound. Roll it forward, then the signal drops and volume knob works properly.

The volume roll off for bridge pickup was weird as well. But that may also be the pickup (currently an old Super Distortion, the Rio Grande BBQ which had been in it is now in my Paul Stanley Iceman).

As is, a worthy backup in case I break a string on the 79 Iceman. But I'll be fixing it back up for sure.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Corey Y on February 23, 2015, 11:53:20 AM
Quote from: RAGER on February 18, 2015, 06:32:30 PM
Command Center.  Been trying to spend time when i can wrapping my head around this Octatrack.

Holy crap dude, you're ready for launch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on February 24, 2015, 04:34:38 AM
Danny I wish I knew as much as you do heh :)

We have some live tracks I was going to mix this week for a tape release but bloody Studio One only let's you open wavs in the artist version and not MP3!

Is there a free program I can download to convert MP3 to wav or will let me mix mp3 or would anyone be willing for me to send them over? My laptop is annoyingly something like 95% full so downloading another program will be a bit of a pain. It's just a case of a little tweak to boost the sound and a tiny bit of cropping, so near yet so far!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 24, 2015, 08:52:35 AM
If I had the same set-up as Rager, I would probably just write Italian horror synth all day.

Ever since I got sick this past June I have been shuffling my gear around.

- Semi-Retired my 800 and sold my 4x12.

- Sold a lot of my overdrive and modulation pedals. Kept only what I really needed. I like distortion pedals a lot now and want to try that BAT/DOD collaboration.

- finally found a good pair of pickups for my SG.

-finally finished up that Mockingbird project.

- I use combo amps instead of a halfstack. Right now, I use an Ampeg GVT-15 and a '72 Fender Vibrochamp. I will sell the Vibrochamp soon so I can get this custom build this guy in Houston builds. A cross between a Supro and a tweed deluxe.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on February 24, 2015, 10:57:06 AM
Quote from: JemDooM on February 24, 2015, 04:34:38 AM
Danny I wish I knew as much as you do heh :)

We have some live tracks I was going to mix this week for a tape release but bloody Studio One only let's you open wavs in the artist version and not MP3!

Is there a free program I can download to convert MP3 to wav or will let me mix mp3 or would anyone be willing for me to send them over? My laptop is annoyingly something like 95% full so downloading another program will be a bit of a pain. It's just a case of a little tweak to boost the sound and a tiny bit of cropping, so near yet so far!

Free up some space and then you can use Audacity. To use mp3 in Audacity you will also need to install the LAME MP3 Encoder.

You can normalize and your other edits, then export as a wav.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq_i18n?s=install&i=lame-mp3
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on February 24, 2015, 08:46:33 PM
Yo Dan,

What pups did you slap in the SG?

Inquiring minds want to know
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 24, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
I did a Dimarzio 36th anniversary at the bridge and BG Pure 90 at the neck. The guy who makes the Pure 90, Bryan Gunsher, claims it is a real P90 just shaved down to humbucker size and it looks like it as it has a brass plate. She sounds pretty good now and it can cover a lot of ground.


I originally was going to back in the original electronics so I could drop in some Gibson T-Top clones but they were damaged so I just got a bunch of nice NOS CTS pots, orange drop caps, and switchcraft jacks.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: JemDooM on February 25, 2015, 04:37:58 AM
Thanks neighbour I'll try that :)
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Post by: khoomeizhi on February 26, 2015, 09:48:34 AM
hey jem-dunno what the non-mac parallel would be, but i found a tiny program called 'switch' that lets me change between file types pretty easily...

last night we did our first night in the studio working on an album...got snowed in a bit overnight. fun. diving back in tonight.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on February 26, 2015, 08:29:23 PM
The dimarzio looks solid and there is lots of love for p90s.  nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on February 27, 2015, 08:20:28 AM
Played with Black Debbath and Lonely Kamel last night. We all did a killer show, nice people on and off stage, Black Debbath were hilarious, the sound tech asked me to crank the amp (!), beer was free and good times were had by all.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 27, 2015, 10:04:24 AM
My FB music page has 666 likes \m/,

(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/11016108_10205032096876076_3098478346106728291_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c28634729e6c71931d7b0df5617a04b3&oe=5594494C&__gda__=1431085353_3ca100faac4aea751e5ba0976adec2fe)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on February 27, 2015, 06:16:40 PM
I don't really facebook.  Is there a way to keep your likes at 666 when you hit that number?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 27, 2015, 07:35:31 PM
I could delete a FB friend for every new like haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 27, 2015, 07:37:46 PM
I seem to have broken the RPM challenge thread on my Tapatalk app. Shit.

Well the album won't be finished by the deadline. If I was free all day tomorrow, no problem. But I am booked all day and have a gig in Houston. And today I have a gig and needed to work on music for tomorrow's gig.

So I could have pushed it to mix the album and not care and throw together some shitty artwork to make the deadline, but I decided to let it go.

I'll finish the album by SXSW and I'll finish it right. Just don't have the time/energy today.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on March 01, 2015, 07:42:18 AM
Listening to "In The Afterglow Of Unity" master.  If all goes well, I will give the final okay on the track markers today.  It's a bit difficult, because every song goes right into the next with fades/crossfades/etc.  The mastering process has been long and intense.

Also talking with the dude doing the artwork, it's going to be badass....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 01, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
(https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11029544_786738274746947_1077459906046705230_n.jpg?oh=46d67e4971d5d618f051a2f6be86c0c0&oe=5577C00C)
California brew haus. Rochester NY 2.27.15 w/ goron, order of the dragon, bastard lord and the highest leviathan.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on March 02, 2015, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on February 24, 2015, 08:52:35 AM
horror synth



Can we just talk about this.  I am intrigued.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 04, 2015, 02:02:56 PM
When I select that I am going to a show on a Facebook event page I also go through my entire friends list and invite people I think might be interested in it. Does anyone else routinely do this? It does take me a couple minutes but I think it's a great way to spread the word.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tombhex on March 04, 2015, 05:04:25 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 04, 2015, 02:02:56 PM
When I select that I am going to a show on a Facebook event page I also go through my entire friends list and invite people I think might be interested in it. Does anyone else routinely do this? I does take me a couple minutes but I think it's a great way to spread the word.

I do this. I played on a friend's band's final EP recently and they're doing a farewell show/release party for it and that's how I invited people. 2 accepted, but at least I invited everyone who could possibly be interested.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 04, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
I was doing it for a while, but I stopped - nobody seemed to care. Or more accurately, everybody is hella busy these days, and there is a ton of events to choose from (including just wanting to relax at home).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 04, 2015, 11:03:12 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 04, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
I was doing it for a while, but I stopped - nobody seemed to care. Or more accurately, everybody is hella busy these days, and there is a ton of events to choose from (including just wanting to relax at home).

People seem just as busy(and lazy) where I live but in small cities there aren't that many shows to choose from. Anyone I invite is either an actual friend or acquaintance. Some people rarely go to shows but once in awhile they surprise me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 05, 2015, 12:18:14 AM
Im trying to start a doom band up.  rented the practice studio myself, solo.  bought the drumset myself.

drummer has committed to 6 jam sessions, but has cancelled last minute on 5 of them!  

To me its one thing to just not commit or to say "maybe", but its COMPLETELY another thing to have a schedule that jacked up and then try to move forward with other committed musicians.  

I dunno, the bassist, guitarist, and myself (guitarist) are giving him another "clean slate" which is on me and the way I have been handling this...I just wish it was not happening but it is.  I coulda woulda shoulda handled it better.  well, here's to tommorrowz.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 05, 2015, 12:45:53 PM
Find another drummer.
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Post by: RacerX on March 05, 2015, 01:39:51 PM
No shit.

He doesn't even own the set? BUH-bye!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 05, 2015, 02:23:13 PM
"Dude, you keep canceling. Are you in or out?"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 05, 2015, 03:05:49 PM
lol thanks !!  :)  

this drummer has two drumsets. one at his house, one at his friend's house he has a project with.  I have bought drums for my music studio I am renting so that a drummer does not have to drag gear around.

we are just gonna practice with or without a drummer next week, then go from there.  once we have our songs more solid then we need to use that line: "dude you keep canceling last minute; are you in or are you out"

My stance is weak on this matter cause its hard to find musicians that will commit

the thing is, the drummer wanted us NOT to use any prior soundcloud songs or any previously made songs.  so we are all at the studio like blues musicians improvizing and hashing out how many measures for each riff and do we like this or that time tempo and key etc.  and after its all said and done do we now remember the agreed upon rhythymn and progression and time tempo and all the tweaks from the 4 chefs making the pot of soup.  if its recorded and then learned then its stuck in my head better.  I may just record all the songs in my home studio and send em out and then see if that helps.

we woulda been alot further along if we just learned each others finished songs, and it would be just as fun for me anyway.  I mean, I auditioned for cover bands last year and learned 10 songs for each audition.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 05, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
Find another drummer

If he came in and changed everything to suit it to his purposes, then doesn't bother to show up, then fuck him. Not literally, mind you.

iPhone etc metronome apps are reliable and punctual, and in some instances keep better time ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 05, 2015, 10:03:47 PM
Danny G I highly respect your musicianship and so I need to weigh and consider...

thanks for the input everyone :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 05, 2015, 11:16:30 PM
the reality is obvious. its not even your choice to some degree. he is in the band in name only. hes not there. never was. all you are doing at this point is taking back control of your band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 05, 2015, 11:19:59 PM
RTFM.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 06, 2015, 11:08:25 AM
We are here to help :)

Yes, having recorded songs is much more effective than trying to describe your music to people.

And yes, it's totally a pain in the ass to find people willing to commit. Which this drummer is clearly not doing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 10, 2015, 12:22:21 AM
So a band I recorded an album with as a session bassist and did a few gigs with (they wanted me to tour with them for 4 months last year... new band, no following, markets they've never played, not supporting a bigger band on tour, etc -- I of course had to decline due to the obvious financial risk) is apparently now wearing costumes/make up/armor and shit.

I feel very conflicted and slightly bad for them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 10, 2015, 01:35:14 AM
how can you feel bad for dudes that wear armor?? that kinda badass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 10, 2015, 01:38:17 AM
cool  ;D

we are officially looking for a drummer  nowz  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 10, 2015, 08:57:04 AM
In general yes, armor is totally bad ass.

However, (and I'm not trying to knock these dudes, they are really nice and I like them as people) if it was part of a grand plan all along that's one thing.

But this was so out of left field I was taken aback. They gave no indication during my brief involvement with them of wearing armor and outfits. And if it was part of a new album of armor-related music, then more power to them.

But the existing album is not armor-related, nor really conducive to the armor theme. Plus, armor has kinda been done to death. It can be done right tho.

This feels to me like a case of "Well, maybe if we try THIS people will notice our band..." rather than "Fuck it! Let's go Viking metal!!!"

Does that make sense? I'm still scratching my head on this one
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 10, 2015, 09:20:45 AM
Re: new drummer

Good! Best of luck
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 18, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
Thanks Danny, thanks bruthas  8)  never heard from that dude, he is a figment of the imagination...

lots of drummers responded to the craigslist ad, one came in last thursday and this monday.  both blew me away!  we went with the one on Monday, hope he commits; he is stoked on our music!

We are playing originals we came up with together and two of my originals that I never played with anyone before called "Eyes of Fire" and "March Into the Sea":

https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance/eyes-of-fire

https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance/march-into-the-sea

 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 21, 2015, 02:26:38 AM
back to the drawing board?  that drummer did not show up to practice, he just texted the other guitarist last minute, but gave no reason as to why...  

he texted the other guitarist that he will go to the next practice and wants to play his drumset and for my drumset to be moved out...not sure why he could not just communicate this to me since no one has put in any money on renting the studio and it is my drumset.  ya Ill do it but thats a really roundabout move he pulled.

edit: spoke with him today 3/21/15 and he is pawning his drum gear off and wondering how to pay his rent, he was tired from work so that was the reason he did not show up to last practice - he is usually sleeping at the time we practice as he likes to start work really early, but the bassist has a work shift that ends at 8pm...that drummer iss not gonna be a good fit for this band, I wish there was a way to figure this stuff out so we could screen out peeps like this so they dont waste our time...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 21, 2015, 06:56:19 PM
Oh jeez.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 21, 2015, 06:58:13 PM
ya, it turns out starting up a band is pretty tough
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 22, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
got two drummers and a singer auditioning this coming week, they also said they are ok with everything in our band.  they are down with paying their share of the rehearsal room rent.

hope it goes well, fingers crossed :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 23, 2015, 07:28:34 PM
yeah..i hope it all works out. the drum chair always seems to be the hardest to fill. not sure why but in all my years of being in active bands (1992- pres) the drummer position was always the problem spot for the most part.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 24, 2015, 11:49:48 PM
ya thats what I was thinking months ago...   drummers...  hmph! 

good thing I bought a drumset and started practicing, then I can be a musical drummer diva too!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on March 29, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
We were jamming and recording last night....at 8pm we see a flaslight looking through the window....i thaught it was a prowler....turns out it was a cop lol....he said we had to turn down but we were Pretty Good!....we actually got it all on tape pretty cool, funny lol
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 29, 2015, 04:58:41 PM
^ Awesome #lifer
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 30, 2015, 12:09:33 AM
---unrelated to anything recently posted here---

When setting up a show in a small city check to be sure you won't be competing with another similar show that has already been announced, ya dingus..  ::)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 05, 2015, 11:36:08 PM
Guy last night- "I don't have earplugs for my body". He said he went outside for awhile during our set  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 06, 2015, 11:18:47 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on April 06, 2015, 11:55:33 AM
My band was contacted for inclusion in some sort of stoner rock compilation recently. It's been an interesting process, since this is the first opportunity the band has had to sign a contract of any kind.

It's really not very complicated - they pay us an upfront-fee and then a 50/50 split of sync/licensing fees for the right to use the song in compilation albums. Maybe not a great deal, but given the other bands on the comp it's pretty obvious that we're just a 'filler' band to take up disc space. Even given this it's taken weeks of deliberation to get the guys to agree to it. I even reached out to the other bands to see what they thought - no issues. Anyone else had to deal with stuff like this? Have you ever rejected a compilation offer?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 06, 2015, 05:15:29 PM
ive rejected comp offers before..not because we got it like that or anything..i usually as a rule never turn anything down..but sometimes comps can suck if they are not the right fit..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 07, 2015, 12:15:37 PM
Finally tried my Dietz 2x15 bass cab as a guitar cabinet. I like it \m/,

(https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-0/10923297_10155378629490246_351851834553738862_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=00b7c13e755b23f88d46c1747f95999f&oe=55AD14A9&__gda__=1436495265_d9513c3e2c8fcd2bd7398af907204651)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 07, 2015, 12:16:48 PM
Too bad I can only run the one cabinet (4 ohm). Stacking my other Dietz replica 2x15 on top of it would look cool \m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 07, 2015, 06:37:16 PM
Make a series cable (bottom left on diagram). It'll put your cabs in series and the amp will see an 8ohm load using both cabs.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/series_cab_wiring_zpsd09078f1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 07, 2015, 06:41:55 PM
Will that work if both cabs are 4ohm?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jake on April 07, 2015, 06:47:55 PM
Yup. Read the notes on that graphic.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 07, 2015, 07:23:07 PM
I'll be darned. *puts on glasses*
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 08, 2015, 05:01:22 PM
I thought this was pretty cool:

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 10, 2015, 12:14:59 AM
Quote from: Jake on April 07, 2015, 06:37:16 PM
Make a series cable (bottom left on diagram). It'll put your cabs in series and the amp will see an 8ohm load using both cabs.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/series_cab_wiring_zpsd09078f1.jpg)



Most excellent/good to know!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 10, 2015, 05:17:30 AM
Trying to help my friend get a show here. We've had a "soft hold" on the date at a venue since 7 weeks ago, but the fucking dipshits at the venue can't confirm the date, even though I try to check back with them regularly, and now it's a month away (May 10). Fucking goddamn idiots. There are crusty punk squats that are better organized than this "collectively run" venue.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 16, 2015, 01:16:32 AM
serious collectors only..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rarest-of-the-Rare-Ned-Steinbergers-Prototype-L-Series-Bass-One-of-a-Kind-/231527721763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e820ab23 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rarest-of-the-Rare-Ned-Steinbergers-Prototype-L-Series-Bass-One-of-a-Kind-/231527721763?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35e820ab23)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on April 18, 2015, 06:12:38 PM
I feel dumb.

After hearing that the Fulltone Soul Bender has to go first to sound good I decided to rearrange my pedalboard place my tuner after my dirt pedals, before my delay, and put my fuzz pedals first. The result? All my fuzz pedals sound so much better. No noise or anything. I was almost considering selling the Meathead I had bought from Corey. Now? It is going to be hard to get rid of that one.

J is for Jenius.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Andrew Blakk on April 19, 2015, 03:46:13 PM
Woohoo! We actually moved into our new rehearsal space today!

And finnish the vocal recordings as well.

Praise the lord! (Whichever feels suitable)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 20, 2015, 01:25:07 AM
Reverend guitars has a Bob Balch (Fu Manchu) signature model. (I did not know that). It came out last year.

(http://www.reverendguitars.com/wp-content/files_mf/1392134102balch_beauty_2.jpg)

http://www.reverendguitars.com/instrument/bob-balch-signature/ (http://www.reverendguitars.com/instrument/bob-balch-signature/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on April 20, 2015, 05:35:55 AM
He all about the low strings bends?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Andrew Blakk on April 20, 2015, 10:07:08 AM
If I ever would but a signature guitar that could be the one! So cool!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on April 26, 2015, 02:52:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ZLn0MA1.jpg)

I have not been this happy, tone-wise, in a while. The tele has Rio Grandes in her, when the bridge is hit with OD/dirt/fuzz it turns into a pseudo P90.

I think I might sell the Mock as I am not bonding with her lately as I did at first.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on May 12, 2015, 04:56:01 PM
Pan-O-Rama of rehearsal, finished a new song today. I'm getting pretty happy with my sound now, boosting the Pharaoh with a Dano drive, into the GH50 with 4x12 and a Trace Elliot 4x10.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 12, 2015, 06:34:03 PM
Bought a couple pedals from a dude on another forum, I think the Post Office lost them. Tracking # says they were delivered on May 2. If they were delivered, it was to somebody else.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on May 12, 2015, 07:36:29 PM
Give ya neighbours a knock? Or check address he sent to wasn't some old one that Paypal decided to revert to?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 12, 2015, 07:46:42 PM
I checked with the downstairs storefront already. Beyond that, it's a wild goose chase of random neighbors.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 14, 2015, 12:23:36 PM
The new low end PRS guitars are looking sweet:

http://www.prsguitars.com/sestandard245/

All set necks, starting at $499 list.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on June 09, 2015, 02:51:44 AM
Ha! Somebody put our band camp song on youtube 2 months ago. Now I don't have to figure out how to do it.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 14, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
Currently on the road with Bleu Edmondson Band. My first actual tour (more than a weekend/few days) as a guitar player since probably Southern Gun Culture in 2003. Good to be back!

First three shows in the TX panhandle went great!

Realizing I use my legs onstage more as a guitar player. Not only going for pedals but since I'm still looking at the fretboard a lot I'm headbanging less and moving around more for stage presence. They are very tired. Weird.

Also made a breakthrough in my slide playing while at the hotel yesterday. Level up!


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Post by: liquidsmoke on June 15, 2015, 10:24:22 PM
Borrowed the DP-006 from a friend. This way we could record with 4 mics for the drums at once. It's all going into Protools anyway. Tracked drums for 4 songs today.

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Post by: Lumpy on June 16, 2015, 02:17:27 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 12, 2015, 07:46:42 PM
I checked with the downstairs storefront already. Beyond that, it's a wild goose chase of random neighbors.

My pedals did arrive BTW. I saw the regular mail carrier one day, and told him the situation (a substitute was working on the day my junk went missing). The next day, the package was there on my doorstep. Magic!
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Post by: Baltar on June 17, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
How long before I blow the shit out of the Emi Legend guitar speaker I have in this amp? I'm playing bass with it and running Bass Muff too. When I went back and read this thread again, I got nervous.

http://riffrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=4678.0

I wanna keep it functional for sale or maybe use it for vocals.

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Post by: MichaelZodiac on June 17, 2015, 03:03:14 PM
So first rehearsal in a while with just the drummer this time. Synth girl is recording these days with one of other bands. During our rehearsal a dude that we sorta know and also plays bass in other bands, comes in because he's volunteering at the jam place or something. He's there to take pictures for their instasuckgram. He sees my equipment and goes "Wow! You have really cool gear!" (yeah duh). We play a song, he takes pictures with an iPad looking stupid. After the song he asks if he can hold my bass for a second, he straps it on and starts playing. I moved to the side of the room and it looked like my bass was getting raped. Raped. He gave it back and goes "Yeah, I would set it up differently but if it works for you."

Fucking dickhead.

/endrant
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Post by: mortlock on June 17, 2015, 11:38:05 PM
i would never hand my bass to a 'dude you sorta know'. i pretty much wont even let close friends touch my bass..
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Post by: Beta Cloud on June 18, 2015, 01:26:41 AM
Quote from: mortlock on June 17, 2015, 11:38:05 PM
i would never hand my bass to a 'dude you sorta know'. i pretty much wont even let close friends touch my bass..

^FUCK TO THE YES^
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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 06, 2015, 12:36:27 AM
Went down to A on my scroll with thicker strings, a 68 sounds monstrous on that guitar. Working on a new Orogen song and I'm now convinced after some test tracking today that a condenser is the way to go for recording high gain metal guitar. You don't really have to adjust your tone differently, just put the mic a foot or two away from your cab and make sure it can't hear your pick on the strings. Tight. Also the Amptweaker TightMetal is awesome for metal as fuck bass using a guitar through an EH Pitch Fork set to an octave down. My P isn't needed this time around.
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Post by: Danny G on July 06, 2015, 02:55:59 AM
Duh moment from last night. 

Remembered to grab the bolt and washer for the stricken toggle switch on my 79 iceman and replaced it shortly before setting up, as I didn't want the switch knocking around loose.

Go to tune and no signal. I check a few things and realize oh. Yes, I screwed the switch back into place, but all the wires save for the un-meltable ground joint were still disconnected... Ok. Playing the LP Studio instead :)

Always bring a spare guitar, boys and girls hahaha ugh.


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Post by: Pissy on July 06, 2015, 10:31:01 AM
Found bass strings on clearence at Best Buy of all places ...

$5 a pack for Slinkys (which I don't love), but the price was right. Check out your local Best Buy, see if they got em on clearence.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 11, 2015, 10:47:20 AM
Thanks to Evil Fanny from the old board, just sent an Ocean of Stars EP and my three officially released solo albums to Ripple Music.

Have contacted them in the past but didn't pan out. But thanks to her string pulling will finally at least get a review :)

And sounds like the review will be favorable and OoS will be passed along to Ripple Music to see what happens.

Also we are having our official EP release party Friday the 31st. In addition to the two other gigs leading up (accidentally oversaturated, but we needy play more, and we can be strategic in the promotion of the upcoming shows)


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Post by: showdown on July 11, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
The new album is mixed and mastered, we're also on a new label this time. We'll do a preview show in a few weeks or so and have a few gigs lined up for the coming months.

First song released:
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Post by: everdrone on July 11, 2015, 09:12:07 PM
did some auditions:

original band said no our guitarist is staying so we dont need you, but we need you to replace our guitarist in the cover band.  learned the 4 cover songs for the audition, then they said the guitarist is staying.  Then they said the original band guitarist really is leaving, so I learned the 4 songs for that audition and auditioned twice.  I made it very clear I could not sing as of now since I am working on strengthening my voice, but after two auditions, he said he needs a singing guitarist but I could audition as bassist to free him up so he does not have to do double duty as singer.  I said no more auditions, its getting weird learning material and getting shot down 3 times so far (original band, cover band, then again original band). 

auditioned for an original modern rock band, but it turns out they already wrote all the songs and time tempos and everything and just want the bassist to feel like he is not a hired gun.  since all the root notes were there and they play fast, its pretty much like the bass parts are even written since I would have to follow the guitars alot.  and they wanted $600/yr from me for their rent, and money from me for when they go into the studio.  I asked for a better deal and had many questions about when it turns from a cover band to a position where I could collaborate with other musicians...they just were not feelin' it and wanted me to play a lot faster than my music on my soundcloud page. 

oh well, I am gonnna work on singing since that seems to be where it is at.  prolly just go into the woodshed for like a year and double down my efforts!!  I should have some killer original tunes by then, hopefully be ready to do double duty as singer/guitarist by then 8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on July 14, 2015, 05:39:02 AM
Quote from: showdown on July 11, 2015, 03:34:01 PM
The new album is mixed and mastered, we're also on a new label this time. We'll do a preview show in a few weeks or so and have a few gigs lined up for the coming months.

First song released:

I can't listen @ work but thats a pretty cool album cover.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 21, 2015, 02:57:06 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epiphone-Scroll-Bass-Final-Price-Drop-/271923215899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4fe2fe1b#viTabs_0
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 21, 2015, 12:17:13 PM
Ocean of Stars had a pretty good show last Friday.

After some lineup shuffling we wound up with opening slot, not optimal but we used it to our advantage to bring friends out.

Not huge turnout but pleasantly decent. Good reaction. All the people in the other bands we talked to were really nice. We stuck around for 2 of the three other bands and looks like we actually had the biggest crowd. Awesome!

Made a good impression on the promoters and venue, arrived on time to set up and were off the stage completely in exactly 10 minutes flat.

On a related note, kind of a weird change being in charge.

Most other bands I'm in it's someone else's band. All I gotta do is show up, play to best of my ability and not get too drunk.

Being in charge I'm coordinating band member pickup, meeting FOH and trying to remember his name, meeting promoters and try to remember their names, overseeing gear, giving compliments and encouragement to my band members, setting up merch, manning merch, dismantling merch, talking to anyone who wants to talk, trying not to get drunk cause I'm driving everyone home, deciding when to load out and overseeing the van pack.

Kinda fun!


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 21, 2015, 01:04:00 PM
Also, my years of playing for other band leaders has been enlightening as to how I will/will not treat my players.

I will not get too drunk to perform.
I will always tell them how much I appreciate them and them playing with me.
I will never call them out, onstage or off, for making a mistake.
I will never treat them like "the help"
I will always listen to and address any of their needs/concerns.
I will ALWAYS keep in constant contact them re: updates, scheduling, etc etc etc
I will always introduce them onstage in between (or even during) songs to give them props

Etc etc etc


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Post by: mortlock on July 22, 2015, 12:21:02 AM
i think zappa may have abused some of those guidelines..
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Post by: Danny G on July 22, 2015, 12:31:31 AM
Probably not as much as Buddy Rich.

CLAMS!!!!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on July 22, 2015, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: mortlock on July 22, 2015, 12:21:02 AM
i think zappa may have abused some of those guidelines..
"I hear Linda Ronstadt is looking for a guitarist." ::)
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Cursed71 on July 22, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
Finally got the artwork and masters to the pressing plant for my band's new album.  I know I don't post much, but I'm stoked on my friend's artwork.  I think he has an Instagram #MattPresutti or something.

Shit.  I can't post a photo.  Here is a Facebook link:
https://m.facebook.com/Mooncurseband
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Post by: Corey Y on July 22, 2015, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: Cursed71 on July 22, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
Finally got the artwork and masters to the pressing plant for my band's new album.  I know I don't post much, but I'm stoked on my friend's artwork.  I think he has an Instagram #MattPresutti or something.

Shit.  I can't post a photo.  Here is a Facebook link:
https://m.facebook.com/Mooncurseband

Cool artwork man. I never checked out your band before, listening right now and I dig it.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 23, 2015, 12:37:29 AM
Quote from: Cursed71 on July 22, 2015, 08:02:53 PM
Finally got the artwork and masters to the pressing plant for my band's new album.  I know I don't post much, but I'm stoked on my friend's artwork.  I think he has an Instagram #MattPresutti or something.

Shit.  I can't post a photo.  Here is a Facebook link:
https://m.facebook.com/Mooncurseband

Looks great and congrats!

You folks going to the Metal Grill show Friday?
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Post by: jibberish on July 23, 2015, 03:18:28 AM
swing low sweet chariot.   rip potbelly.  we were trying to get some collaborations going before he left the board to make his way out there.

once again, sad how many people were mean to him on the board...same old story: the dirty dpzen chewed up another one. and now they are sad, and short of memory too...
I hope there is a special place in hell for that pack of hyenas.
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Post by: RacerX on July 23, 2015, 09:51:09 AM
This isn't General discussion, but if'n you wanna GD...

Just because Owen could be an abrasive asshole doesn't mean we can't be sad that he died. Who's the one who always tells peeps to "die," anyway? You.

And I'll be sad when you die, too, unless I go first...

R.I.P. Potbelly.

/rant
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Post by: Corey Y on July 23, 2015, 12:28:10 PM
That sucks, I remember Potbelly from the old SR.com forum, but never knew him in person like a lot of others on the board. I haven't gone into General Discussion since years before the old forum shuttered, so I don't know what any of the rest of that stuff means.
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Post by: Danny G on July 23, 2015, 12:41:22 PM
I hung with him twice. Shod 2007 during the Shrooms Incident and he randomly popped up at a Mother Truckers show in Santa Fe with Rev. Ike

Great dude. We'd kept in touch online ever since, as he went for it ball out with his music shortly after seeing him in 2008.

We kept missing each other. He came thru Austin numerous times and I either had a gig out of town or in town but nowhere near his venue, and vice versa.

A friends band was just touring through Wisconsin last month and I told them to look him up but they didn't get to hang with him.

I figured it was only a matter of time before our paths crossed again. I just didn't realize that it would be at the end of the proverbial road.

Still in shock.


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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 23, 2015, 01:35:28 PM
Owen was a one of a kind guy. We drifted apart over the last 5/6 years but I randomly saw him at the bar the night he died and he was joking and in good spirits as usual. He seemed more or less sober too.


Got some lead tracking accomplished this morning, had to get it done despite my downer mood over Owen, my ass once again saved by cranking my noise gate up enough to cut out the slop and using delay in parts to make it more interesting.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 24, 2015, 12:59:21 PM
I was thinking about ol' Owen & played him some blues.

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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
^ nice


Tracking more today, found out my NOISEGATE pedal was the source of most of the weird buzzy noise in my rig. How fucked is that? Recording rhythm without it, the TightMetal has a built in one that removes most of the noise it causes at least. There is also the bit of noise caused by me wearing headphones but I don't think I can do anything more about that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 25, 2015, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
^ nice


Tracking more today, found out my NOISEGATE pedal was the source of most of the weird buzzy noise in my rig. How fucked is that? Recording rhythm without it, the TightMetal has a built in one that removes most of the noise it causes at least. There is also the bit of noise caused by me wearing headphones but I don't think I can do anything more about that.

cool pedal!  did you try plugging the noisegate into the tightmetal effects loop?  this guy seems to dig that route on youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3rlEXvd-LI
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Post by: dogfood on July 25, 2015, 06:50:52 PM
One day you people, just wait and see.
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Post by: Cursed71 on July 25, 2015, 07:10:48 PM
Hey Liquid,
We missed the metal grill show.  Woulda been cool, but I had a BBQ planned at my brother's house.  Hope to catch Emerald Douglas soon though!
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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 26, 2015, 11:49:32 PM
Quote from: everdrone on July 25, 2015, 10:44:52 AMcool pedal!  did you try plugging the noisegate into the tightmetal effects loop?  this guy seems to dig that route on youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3rlEXvd-LI

I'll give it a shot. In my mind it would either place the gate after or before the distortion so I don't know what the difference would be to actually having it after or before in the chain.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 26, 2015, 11:57:14 PM
Quote from: Cursed71 on July 25, 2015, 07:10:48 PM
Hey Liquid,
We missed the metal grill show.  Woulda been cool, but I had a BBQ planned at my brother's house.  Hope to catch Emerald Douglas soon though!

I could really go for a grill out or proper BBQ myself. Light turnout but good show. The Conqueror Worm was probably my favorite set, that's a new 5 piece two guitar doom metal band with Jason from Subjugation on vocals.

Emerald is on a break for now and our drummer is more or less moving out of state. I have a possible replacement lined up so hopefully we'll be ready to gig again in 2/3 months. I want to cut down the repeats in the songs to make things less repeditive going forward, I think we were pushing it for a 2 piece without vocals.

I'm looking forward to your new album and seeing you folks live again!
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Post by: Cursed71 on July 27, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
Oh man, yeah I've missed Ellis's band once or twice now.  They are really new but I've heard great things.  I think Jason's brother(Protestant) is maybe playing guitar with them. 

It has been hard to not BBQ now that the weather is finally good.  Gotta use these days when we got em in Wisconsin.  It's been hard to catch shows
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Post by: mortlock on July 28, 2015, 08:15:03 PM
anyone here know how to conduct good interviews?? I need someone to interview my band for a publication. they will run the interview if I submit it. it would be cool if it was real, instead of me interviewing myself..
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Post by: Lumpy on July 28, 2015, 10:04:46 PM
Get Sean Beard to do it. "In conversation..." Double whammy.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on July 29, 2015, 12:17:12 AM
Quote from: Cursed71 on July 27, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
Oh man, yeah I've missed Ellis's band once or twice now.  They are really new but I've heard great things.  I think Jason's brother(Protestant) is maybe playing guitar with them.

Yup his brother is on rhythm guitar, chunky riffing and guitar face galore from that dude. I want to get those guys to Madison.
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Post by: giantchris on July 29, 2015, 05:17:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
^ nice


Tracking more today, found out my NOISEGATE pedal was the source of most of the weird buzzy noise in my rig. How fucked is that? Recording rhythm without it, the TightMetal has a built in one that removes most of the noise it causes at least. There is also the bit of noise caused by me wearing headphones but I don't think I can do anything more about that.
Thats weird and doesn't make much sense.  Maybe theres some dirt/grit inside one of the jacks and you can fix it with some contact cleaner.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 29, 2015, 03:57:59 PM
Moved most of the heavy stuff out of my practice space yesterday, on one of the hottest days of the summer so far.   :-\
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Post by: RacerX on July 29, 2015, 04:13:37 PM
Since we got the band back together, I've been playing through a borrowed Peavey head & Marshall 4x12 at practices. Now the dude who owns that rig is taking it back to TX, so this weekend I'll be playing through my own big rig, which is currently taking up space at home.

It will be sweet to have my tone back. YAY!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 29, 2015, 10:54:26 PM
Quote from: giantchris on July 29, 2015, 05:17:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on July 24, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
^ nice


Tracking more today, found out my NOISEGATE pedal was the source of most of the weird buzzy noise in my rig. How fucked is that? Recording rhythm without it, the TightMetal has a built in one that removes most of the noise it causes at least. There is also the bit of noise caused by me wearing headphones but I don't think I can do anything more about that.
Thats weird and doesn't make much sense.  Maybe theres some dirt/grit inside one of the jacks and you can fix it with some contact cleaner.

It is quite weird. It is for the most part good at doing what it is supposed to do at least. I'm pretty sure this weird (but subtle) noisy bullshit has been going on since I bought the pedal new so I don't think it's grit. I need to do more experiments but I'll also read a ton of reviews and see if anyone else has experienced the same thing. Might be time to look into a different model.
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Post by: everdrone on July 29, 2015, 11:24:49 PM
my noisegate decimator g string pedal kills all the noise, nice more natural envelope.  I use both noisegate loops so I plug all my pedals into the pedal's-effect-loop, and I plug the guitar into the noisegate pedal so that the guitar noise is also killed. 

I step on the noisegate pedal to turn it OFF whenever needed, and its true bypass so that effect goes away ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 30, 2015, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: everdrone on July 29, 2015, 11:24:49 PM
my noisegate decimator g string pedal kills all the noise, nice more natural envelope.  I use both noisegate loops so I plug all my pedals into the pedal's-effect-loop, and I plug the guitar into the noisegate pedal so that the guitar noise is also killed. 

I step on the noisegate pedal to turn it OFF whenever needed, and its true bypass so that effect goes away ;)

Want. I have the older one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 31, 2015, 11:50:13 PM
my band finally got a decent review..
MAXIMUM ROCKNROLL #387  AUGUST 2015.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on August 01, 2015, 12:02:57 AM
Today was 10 hours of mixing, mastering, Mexican food babies, and a flat tire. I hope we like these bounces tomorrow.
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Post by: Danny G on August 01, 2015, 02:00:02 AM
Had the Ocean of a Stars EP release tonight. Fun show! Good to share the stage with good friends/bandmates from the Southern Gun Culture days.

Wore my SGC shirt m/,


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Post by: everdrone on August 01, 2015, 07:07:39 PM
Im working on my singing, I bought the Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy and have been doing it for 2 months: http://kentamplinvocalacademy.com/

I figure a few more months and I will be ready to record.  cant sing distorted/rasp vocals properly yet without hurting myself, might be a long time till I can do that.

I am trying out for a Nirvana cover band on bass, I got 2 songs down, need to make videos of em and work on the rest.

CHeers!!!

Quote from: Danny G on August 01, 2015, 02:00:02 AM
Had the Ocean of a Stars EP release tonight. Fun show! Good to share the stage with good friends/bandmates from the Southern Gun Culture days.

Wore my SGC shirt m/,


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THats killer brutha! I saw yall live, yall rock it!  I would like to see southern gun culture if that ever happened as well.
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Post by: spookstrickland on August 02, 2015, 03:21:41 PM
Quote from: everdrone on August 01, 2015, 07:07:39 PM
Im working on my singing, I bought the Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy and have been doing it for 2 months: http://kentamplinvocalacademy.com/

I figure a few more months and I will be ready to record.  cant sing distorted/rasp vocals properly yet without hurting myself, might be a long time till I can do that.

I am trying out for a Nirvana cover band on bass, I got 2 songs down, need to make videos of em and work on the rest.

CHeers!!!

I like Ken's videos.  He really can improve your singing very quickly,and get you the sound your affter.

Quote from: Danny G on August 01, 2015, 02:00:02 AM
Had the Ocean of a Stars EP release tonight. Fun show! Good to share the stage with good friends/bandmates from the Southern Gun Culture days.

Wore my SGC shirt m/,


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THats killer brutha! I saw yall live, yall rock it!  I would like to see southern gun culture if that ever happened as well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 03, 2015, 07:03:39 AM
thanks for the encouragement spookstrickland! Im putting in the daily hard work. The training is going good, its a long journey but fun. 
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Post by: jibberish on August 05, 2015, 05:53:02 PM
^ karaoke videos.

I am using folsom prison blues(johnny cash tune) in the key of F to stretch my bass range.

one more thing: don't yell or talk for a long time any more.  that can screw up your voice for days.

*************************************************************************************************

so playing with the b200 bass combo after watching corey's video about a dozen times I figured out really fast that the overdrive section on that amp is garbage.
it puts a lifeless buzz onto the sound and that is it.
the greta tube needs to go first THEN the pharaoh supreme for driving the bass combo. 
the tube can mask everything from the pharaoh in its distortion if turned up too far when I had it set up pharaoh first then greta.
the bass sounds nice into the greta just barely driven into that tube burble, THEN the pharaoh puts on the schmaltz on top of the tube sound. the amp needs to be as clean as it possibly can be and only tweak the eq's because the amp only adds garbage when driven with its own circuits, either gain or as I said, that overdrive section
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Post by: mortlock on August 05, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
im in love with the little tuners you clip onto your guitar/bass headstock.
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Post by: everdrone on August 06, 2015, 12:07:55 AM
cool jibberish, I sing along with my favs too, mainly stone temple pilots, while trying to apply the Ken Tamplin techniques to it like singing songs with no vowels (yikes)!  

I have played those solid state 115 combos in band settings and its rough but they can sound great in a low volume blues covers or jazz type setting and better with FOH help, I just have not had any luck with hearing them in loud rock bands though and they just teeter on the red clipping button for me  >:(.
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Post by: Beta Cloud on August 06, 2015, 12:37:00 AM
Quote from: mortlock on August 05, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
im in love with the little tuners you clip onto your guitar/bass headstock.

just got this... best $50 i ever spent. best tuner i've ever used. sold my floor tc tuner. get one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 06, 2015, 07:22:43 AM
Quote from: everdrone on August 03, 2015, 07:03:39 AM
thanks for the encouragement spookstrickland! Im putting in the daily hard work. The training is going good, its a long journey but fun. 

Thats the key just doing it every day.  I know wheni sing every day my voice and control are much better than if i go long petiods . With out singing.
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Post by: everdrone on August 07, 2015, 06:34:44 PM
thanks Spook for the encouragement! 


I have been singing every day for two months going strong!  I only have missed days when I tried to do the rasp/distortion/compression and the next day found out my throat is sore so dont do thatz...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 09, 2015, 05:57:19 AM
you got me laughing talking about "leavin' on a jet plane".   
Takes me back to open mic nites, which I went to for some time pretty consistently.  my first attempts at playing guitar in front of people were at open mic nites.
that's where I learned that total fail and humiliation isn't the end. but I digress..

theeee most hated open mic song that I know of is exactly THAT song. and someone always has to do it.  every week. IDK what it is about that song but it ticks people off, not just me.
 
my sincere recommendation is to keep that one in the shower only. heh.
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Post by: everdrone on August 09, 2015, 08:55:20 AM
Quote from: jibberish on August 09, 2015, 05:57:19 AM
you got me laughing talking about "leavin' on a jet plane".  
Takes me back to open mic nites, which I went to for some time pretty consistently.  my first attempts at playing guitar in front of people were at open mic nites.
that's where I learned that total fail and humiliation isn't the end. but I digress..

theeee most hated open mic song that I know of is exactly THAT song. and someone always has to do it.  every week. IDK what it is about that song but it ticks people off, not just me.
 
my sincere recommendation is to keep that one in the shower only. heh.

between relating to me b y telling me total fail and humiliation isnt the end and to keep the cover I played to myself, I dunno what to say!!! :D

I get it brutha, Ill keep it up and I did not realize that song was so popular, fortunately there are a million other open mic night songs.  I am working on 3 originals I wanna record soon.
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Post by: jibberish on August 09, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
don't read too much into that. my times at open mic has nothing to do with you. just remembering that is where I got over being afraid to screw up along with that song being generally disliked.

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Post by: everdrone on August 09, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
true dat!   ;D
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Post by: jibberish on August 10, 2015, 07:14:56 AM
I wonder if the name "Holy Crap" has been taken. there's the name for a noise band like mortay's. I want to cover the fucked up record song.
but I need a name.

I am getting this bass to make all sorts of obscene sounds. I want to design a violin bow without the horseshit, er horsehair and general finickiness of a real bow.
my first try will be a long strip of Velcro. it has 2 textures; the STICKOR fuzz part and the STICKEE plastic nubs part. maybe one or both of those textures will agitate the strings in an even more heinous way. maybe stick it onto a block of Styrofoam like a big sanding block, idk..need more thought....

I am going to avoid power tools until I have exhausted any and all other options..
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Post by: mortlock on August 10, 2015, 11:56:54 PM
ive 'prepared' basses as well as used all sorts of unusual items to play the bass with.
we should do a holy crap / hmco split.
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Post by: everdrone on August 11, 2015, 11:06:53 PM
yall are encouraging me to do cover songs and stuff, so I made my first cover song video:  https://youtu.be/7z9xtCpcpyo

its STP
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 12, 2015, 01:51:23 AM
Baritone > dirt pedal > tube guitar head > 15" bass cabs = ridiculously warm tone
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Post by: spookstrickland on August 12, 2015, 04:23:56 AM
Quote from: everdrone on August 07, 2015, 06:34:44 PM
thanks Spook for the encouragement! 


I have been singing every day for two months going strong!  I only have missed days when I tried to do the rasp/distortion/compression and the next day found out my throat is sore so dont do thatz...

Vocal distortin can be brutal on your throat.  Back in my early years singing trying to distort I used way too much preasure and at times could taste Blood in my mouth.  Im lucky i still have a voice.
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Post by: jibberish on August 12, 2015, 05:24:21 AM
liquid, i checked out your bandcamp. very cool sound your rig has. it is a big sound. mortay should cover the title track heh. i actually want to hear those swells on the full rig full volume after taking a giant 1-hit of churchOG, and try to keep standing heh...and not drop my pbr pounder either....(yeah, if i was in WI, i would be drinking pbr's at the show)

mortay, speaking of hofner basses, and unfortunately the beatles,  that acousticness and tone comes through nicely on so many beatles tunes.  i guarantee i have pulled the hofner off the wall at GC. it is so compact and super light since it isn't a slab, and it has acoustic tone which no other bass on that wall has(even the 5 string 2 grand stingray that i covet cant do it heh).  i do love the irony: sir paul AND sir mortay play the same axe.

also, there will be a bit of bleep-bloop in my noise project. in the day, i freaked out when one of my synths got away from me. now i will be hoping for it.
i am still hot on the trail of thee ultimate ghetto drum machine: old dryer.  in the meantime i want to find some unusual rhythm/beat devices.
you can mic some little piece of shit making noise, then eq and reverb/delay it into something huge. i saw a youtube where a bunch of good ole boys fired up the 1928 tractor and used the super slow, super steady idle of that putsy putsy thing to jam to. i laughed my ass off at the idea and those boys jammed out their chet atkins tune or wtf they played

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i may need to mosey up to Lakewood and visit a particular bar. in fact, the very bar that dinger visited, and see what the acid king ticket situation is like. there is zero excuse upon the face of this earth for me to miss that show oct 28.  i will probably grab 4 or maybe 6 tickets.  hook dogfood up if he wants...

edit: in case anyone wonders, mortay came from "trading places". eddie murphy said it to Mortimer heh. "heyyy mortayyyy"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 12, 2015, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on August 12, 2015, 04:23:56 AM
Quote from: everdrone on August 07, 2015, 06:34:44 PM


Vocal distortin can be brutal on your throat.  Back in my early years singing trying to distort I used way too much preasure and at times could taste Blood in my mouth.  Im lucky i still have a voice.

yikes! ya I have a problem producing vocal distortion, Ill stay away from it and do Queens of the STone Age or similar styles of singing and just try to learn some type of vocal distortion along the way using care as it is brutal but I may just stay away from it since I have not had any luck with it so far either and am lucky I still have a voice as well after my tries
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Post by: neighbor664 on August 12, 2015, 04:38:29 PM
Quote from: everdrone on August 12, 2015, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on August 12, 2015, 04:23:56 AM
Quote from: everdrone on August 07, 2015, 06:34:44 PM


Vocal distortin can be brutal on your throat.  Back in my early years singing trying to distort I used way too much preasure and at times could taste Blood in my mouth.  Im lucky i still have a voice.

yikes! ya I have a problem producing vocal distortion, Ill stay away from it and do Queens of the STone Age or similar styles of singing and just try to learn some type of vocal distortion along the way using care as it is brutal but I may just stay away from it since I have not had any luck with it so far either and am lucky I still have a voice as well after my tries

You might want to look at the "Zen of Screaming" courses to learn how to add `heat' to your voice without hurting yourself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 12, 2015, 07:14:27 PM
ya I favorited that zen of scream site I may buy it, good reccomendation :)

I also wanna buy this http://www.screaminglessons.com/

but first I gotta finish my ken tamplin lessons which will take months, it has helped so I gotta give it my all

Im a newbie prolly need skype lessons cause you can really hurt yourself without a keen eye watching
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Post by: liquidsmoke on August 13, 2015, 12:20:06 AM
Quote from: jibberish on August 12, 2015, 05:24:21 AM
liquid, i checked out your bandcamp. very cool sound your rig has. it is a big sound. mortay should cover the title track heh. i actually want to hear those swells on the full rig full volume after taking a giant 1-hit of churchOG, and try to keep standing heh...and not drop my pbr pounder either....(yeah, if i was in WI, i would be drinking pbr's at the show)

Thank ya. It's fun. Riffs and drums.
Lots of PBR to be had around here, I didn't know people were drinking it ironically when I first started going out to bars... because for the most part they weren't at that time. It's still often the least expensive beer served around here and it's better than most cheap beers even if it's not actually good. Good costs real money.
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Post by: jibberish on August 13, 2015, 09:37:51 AM
^ yes, yes, and yes.   I even mention them in a song I changed the words to....pbr is thee concert beer.   just kill it before it gets warm....

I refuse to post among the ignorants, but the very best most pro awesome rock show I ever saw was king diamond at house of blues. So pro that the one guitar player can ninja star-throw picks hundreds of feet heh.
they played Abigail in its entirety after a ton of other tunes. all the props including several ladies to help out( I guess one was Abigail derp)
I just trance out over the 2 guitar players. they are one.  they are among the best metal guitar teams ever. sheer pleasure to watch them go.
the arch enemy brothers were like that too, really fun to watch...but now im digressing again.

you linked 2 of my favorite KD albums too, but my most favorite is the graveyard. that is the most fun crazy story and the tunes kill it. I think that was his best. listen to the whole story.
but the MF stuff is great too.  I see why he had to do 2 projects. lots of music inside that boy.  "NO PRESENTS FOR CHRISTMAS. AHHHAaaahaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa..."
I recommend to everyone who likes any heavy/rock/metal to see KD. plus now he is older and cant hit those screechers of high notes he did in the day
(for anyone fearing that aspect of KD, what he does belongs with the music. "no worries mate")

KD rules.


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my pal with the trombone came over to jam the new system last sunday. it was a little rough getting the grooves going since we were only used to me playing guitar on all of our projects prior to this.  so the music and the feel was different. i did take both keyboards out and the system performed beyond expectations. it was so clean, even when when we hit occasional super loud notes or over-enthusiastic vocals.
i still have a couple routing issues to figure out on the behringer mixer, but wasnt serious.  the flexibility of 4 complete stereo effects loops was nice, even though i didnt really know what to do with all that on a first jam basis except send stuff into complete orbit with too much effects.

i was too tied up scrambling to get the whole deal rigged just so we could play that i forgot to record it.
im PO'd because we needed to save a bit:  i was doing some crazy boogie bass thing on a c minor chord and he starts singing "they call me the breeze" but it was in G MINOR.
we killed it. it is still just 3 shit chords (use Gm and Cm and leave D as major)
my buddy somehow glommed the c minor as the IV chord and off to gminor land we went.
but i LOVE g minor because it is very keyboard friendly (vs guitar B flat blues box which i dont like becasue it is too close to the auto-muscle memory a box, but im learning it anyway becasue i should)

next test is actually out in the environment amidst the trees and terrain. this test was on the deck so I wasn't running with the big dogs yet. we stayed on the porch
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Post by: jibberish on August 13, 2015, 06:37:30 PM
Holy Portable Drum Machine Batman!!!!!!


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totally unrelated to anything. this young lady is ridiculously hot. don't even ask me to try and explain, she just is.

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Post by: neighbor664 on August 13, 2015, 09:50:28 PM
^I love Samantha Fish.
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Post by: everdrone on August 15, 2015, 12:04:21 AM
gotta keep rockin'
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Post by: mortlock on August 15, 2015, 04:17:59 PM
Quote from: jibberish on August 12, 2015, 05:24:21 AM

mortay, speaking of hofner basses, and unfortunately the beatles,  that acousticness and tone comes through nicely on so many beatles tunes.  i guarantee i have pulled the hofner off the wall at GC. it is so compact and super light since it isn't a slab, and it has acoustic tone which no other bass on that wall has(even the 5 string 2 grand stingray that i covet cant do it heh).  i do love the irony: sir paul AND sir mortay play the same axe.

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edit: in case anyone wonders, mortay came from "trading places". eddie murphy said it to Mortimer heh. "heyyy mortayyyy"
just for the record, the fag in the beatles plays the violin bass, i have a club bass which is shaped like a les paul. it is sweet sounding and weighs a fraction of what my fender weighs. now that ive had it for awhile, i am in love with the sound. its like a 'real' instrument. not that a solid body fender isnt, but there is a huge difference. something about how a hollow body responds, and kick on the fuzz..holy shit..rips faces off.
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Post by: jibberish on August 15, 2015, 11:42:10 PM
I wanna hold your hand  [snicker face little kid pic goes here]

so, I have prepared weapons of mass bass cacophony. 1) Velcro on a stick.  2) a piece of foam hot-water-pipe insulation 3) file card LAWL!
"Igor, bring me a brain"

wtf is with mass bass. one would think it would be either "mace base" or  maassss baassss.   
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Post by: Danny G on August 16, 2015, 03:32:46 PM
So my JCM800 started cutting out this weekend. Stayed powered but sound cut in/out intermittently then went silent.

Shit. Hope its just a tube issue.

Powers up, tubes glow. Just no sound. Tried diff speaker cables, jacks, plugged straight in, swapped out V1. Haven't checked fuses.

Taking it in tomorrow. :/

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Post by: Danny G on August 16, 2015, 10:49:57 PM
On a positive note, The Ripple Effect gave the Ocean of Stars EP a very glowing review!

http://ripplemusic.blogspot.com/2015/08/ocean-of-stars-ocean-of-stars-ep.html?m=0


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Post by: RacerX on August 17, 2015, 03:42:08 PM
Weedeater cancelled the second half of their tour, & our first show back from hiatus was going to be opening for Weedeater next week.

eh, we still have 2 others upcoming, but we were really looking forward to this one, dang it.
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Post by: agent of change on August 17, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
That sucks. They have a rep for doing that around here. But I think they did just play a show Sunday night. Wonder what happened...
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Post by: khoomeizhi on August 18, 2015, 04:59:03 AM
last show of the tour!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 18, 2015, 08:46:53 AM
all this stuff I have been trying to use to energize bass guitar strings similar to an actual violin bow, have met with varying degrees of failure.
there are a bunch of issues.
1)the item makes too much commotion right at point of contact and doesn't really "sing" the strings.
2)if it is made of metal, that just makes too nasty of a racket.  those 2 sax players in that wall of audio death star they make could probably use that electrocuted gerbil sound that really has nothing to do with the bass making tones.
3)the items that actually do get the strings playing also tend to damp them out.

A really worn out, but very stiff natural bristle scrub brush is what I want to try.  the file card would have worked to some degree minus the millions of metal contacts a second. you could sort of scrub the string in a circle and get a bizarre sustain going, but that noise was too much..can't be metal.

I am also tempted to just go with an envelope generator.  come on. someone has to have a good reputation pedal that makes a bass sound like a cello heh.
alternately, a microbrute may be a good deal when you add up the filter AND the envelope sections.


I'l just keep experimenting and kicking it around to see if some unique repeatable sounds show up. in the mean time, playing the bass normally through nasty pedal stuff will do.
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I had a sprightly practice on guitar to that metal jam for like 1/2 hr straight, after doing drills and some slow blues jamming for an hour prior.
my hands are tired, but that schecter is fast like the ultraswede or the tele, well maybe not the tele. the tele is probably my fastest guitar. small and precise.
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Post by: mortlock on August 18, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
jib, you need an actual bow and flat wound strings and lots of rosin. then you can kinda get your electric to sound like an upright bass being bowed. nothing sounds like a real upright though. 
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Post by: jibberish on August 19, 2015, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 18, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
jib, you need an actual bow and flat wound strings and lots of rosin. then you can kinda get your electric to sound like an upright bass being bowed. nothing sounds like a real upright though. 

yeah, see that's what I want to avoid.  Ideally I would like to do this with an unmodified instrument so you could just grab the doo-dad and make some crazy sustain-y  droning, then drop the doo-dad and return to regular playing.

So I don't necessarily want to emulate any actual bowed instrument. I have synths for that anyway. I just want to get a "bowed-like" thing going, and maybe all avenues have been tried and exhausted over time and I am just re-inventing the square fail wheel. 

"easy attack" and "active sustain" are the more accurate, more generic effects I want.  bowed strings just happen to also do those 2 things.
and at the end of the day, exploration is never a bad thing, fail or win.

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so composing noise tunes isn't quite as easy as I thought it would be.   the trick seems to be to create coherent garbage vs garbage garbage. 
my first song concept for the holy crap project is "waterboarding from the inside"  heh
and I want the holy crap theme song to be extra "just right" because my noise project is going to have much humor injected as well as bombastic audio.
the MIDI controlled dryer is going to happen. But before that, I will have more normal stuff like triggered sound effects and other computer shit, evil weird al songs where I changed the lyrics to the dark side, fucked up mashups, and whatever crazy and surprising things I can cook up.

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I see places are selling inverted pots and pans as nu percussion. I don't have an immediate link. but like this is the next big thing since cajons.
3-4 years ago my 2 nephews and I set up an immense array of whatever noisy metal stuff we could dig up and commenced to inaugurate "The Magoomba Rhythm Section".
it sounded so awesome to blastbeat metal shit heh. and they wailed a blastbeat on all that shit. I was laughing the whole time it was so awesome. like some of those street drummer videos where they have just a pile of misc crap to wail on.

my buddy stosh came up with a fucking hilarious idea: the marching band dumpster. rolling a big modified dumpster along slamming the doors and beating on those huge metal sides.  talk about bottom end.  heh. funny shit.
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Post by: RacerX on August 19, 2015, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 18, 2015, 07:51:53 PM
jib, you need an actual bow and flat wound strings and lots of rosin. then you can kinda get your electric to sound like an upright bass being bowed. nothing sounds like a real upright though. 

Playing with a pick through a Volume pedal > Big Muff > Delay comes pretty close.
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Post by: everdrone on August 19, 2015, 11:13:01 PM
ok so I downloaded screaming lessons  http://www.screaminglessons.com/

I am getting a bit more of a compressed sound and some distortion in my voice, it is coming along good, I wanna record some original stuff with youtube mixed like this soon, here is a Soundgarden song that I sang:

https://youtu.be/GH7t1Sd8tNg
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Post by: mortlock on August 20, 2015, 12:10:07 AM
Damn!!
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11914110_10153262365834055_5416659177369404527_n.jpg?oh=d14aa950816f7e00963ff68930d14b56&oe=5682B92B)
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Post by: Pissy on August 20, 2015, 05:49:53 AM
forgive me if I missed a reference to this, but I think that Jib, you need an ebow.  They work for bass.

(http://cdn1.talkbass.com/data/attachment-files/2005/09/2087845_556b2b39ecac361705fc333640179add.jpg)

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Post by: jibberish on August 20, 2015, 05:57:38 AM
you're coming along there everdrone. that would get you by in most situations, especially with just a touch of room sized reverb to widen the vocals.
the chocolate rain kid is very good at turning his head to breathe away from a large diaphragm mic. first thing I noticed. then I stopped the video heh. could only take so much of that.

so when will you start the Tuuvan throat singing?
from horsing around all these years, I have my own assortment of sounds, and I know very well what things I have to watch it or risk trashing my voice. "Deploy all zylon fighters" is one I will only bust out to record it. and only do that a couple times then maybe never again.   the semi truck shifting thru the gears also has been retired, but I can still occasionally do the chainsaw heh.  I have learned to do everything carefully and sort of quietly, but with power.
Chuck schuldiner of death  was a very careful screamer I guess you could say. check out some death albums. skip the 6' under albums for now.

fwiw, maybe one of the best vocalist in metal was GWAR's. he did so many sounds and styles and crazy shit.  guys like Dio and bruce D, halford or even cornell have/had one nice delivery, but it is one delivery for everything. even king diamond goes all over the map with his vocals if you really pay attention to just what he is doing on so many of his tunes

that's why I like some of the ladies of metal. they throw all kinds of different vocals at you. Kittie was phenomenal at that. the chick fronting OTEP maybe the queen of the beauty and the beast vocals. also ms love on her earlier albums like "live through this" used everything too.  great stuff. some chicks have a distinct advantage in the vocal department.
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testament is the epitome of straight down the pipe metal.

"The Gathering", from 1999 I think, is the all around epitome of metal albums IMO.


Here is thee correct spelling fyi:

\m/ T E S T A M E N T \m/


edit: simulpost. I will look at this ebow straightaway. thx :)

edit edit: yes this thing is nice. I believe I want it.
thanks to this goofy short video(dude fucked up the thunderstruck riff I think. sounded like one note was wrong every time)

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Post by: Pissy on August 20, 2015, 06:28:32 AM
I saw Testament with Anthrax a few years ago and was disappointed.  Skolnik only half played rhythm.  Plus it's tough seeing guys like that after they're old.  It's a fact of life, but it doesn't make one feel as though they saw the band that they became a fan of.   Eric Peterson was the show.  He is obviously the main fuel for that band.  At least now, if not then.
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Post by: jibberish on August 20, 2015, 06:42:19 AM
awww that sucks.
I admit, I saw them more like 10years ago on that tour with halford and immortal. all 3 bands brought it but testament killed it. just wow.
I have not seen them since.
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Post by: khoomeizhi on August 20, 2015, 04:53:58 PM
jesus, i haven't seen them since 1992, touring with iron maiden and blind-era coc.  not sure i knew they were still a thing.

and i do some tuvan-style throatsinging (aka khoomei), and yeah, you could hurt yourself trying some things un-trained/ready. there's muscles that most people hardly use that need strengthened a lot before some of it's even possible.
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Post by: everdrone on August 20, 2015, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: jibberish on August 20, 2015, 05:57:38 AM
you're coming along there everdrone. that would get you by in most situations, especially with just a touch of room sized reverb to widen the vocals.
the chocolate rain kid is very good at turning his head to breathe away from a large diaphragm mic. first thing I noticed. then I stopped the video heh. could only take so much of that.


Thanks for the listen jibberish, I appreciate the constructive criticism!  I think that because I did not have the noisegate turned on the extra breathing noise was bothering me, so I need to turn it back on ;)  I dont have a diaphram mic but that pop-filter is big.  I might try just singing without it to make it more like on stage.  Ill try more reverb too, chocolate rain kid lol!!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D cheers :)
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Post by: everdrone on August 21, 2015, 10:28:30 PM
YAAA!!! THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE TUNES!!! DO YOU DIG???


ALICE IN CHAINS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u76g2uDbtik

I recorded it today just now, one take wonder

I am getting better at vocal distortion  :P ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: RacerX on August 24, 2015, 03:28:45 PM


I can't even begin to imagine how difficult it would be to play a fretless guitar.

Edit: One piece of wood—nice.

(http://lava-drops.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/front-e1427373481769.jpg)
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Post by: VOLVO))) on August 24, 2015, 03:32:49 PM
It's not bad if you have good ears. I took to it pretty quick, chords are difficult. No bends. All slides.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 24, 2015, 03:41:52 PM
The single note stuff probably isn't that far off from playing bottleneck, but yeah, chording must be a bitch.
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Post by: mortlock on August 24, 2015, 04:48:02 PM
micro tones. if any one says youre out of tune. just say micro tones.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 25, 2015, 04:38:35 AM
holy crap! the end of October is turning into epic:

acid king oct 28, now that's class
YOB oct 31, beachland ballroom

fuckin a.
I bought all those cd's from danno, 'bout time I get to see these bands.

merch tables! prepare to meet thy doom!  jonesing for vinyl......
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 27, 2015, 04:27:36 AM
so I just registered a bandcamp page for my secret hidden chamber orchestra. I have a 13song 75min album almost ready to go up.  my merch will be Cadillac all the way too

my sis runs a custom clothing business and we will take merch to a whole new place.   I think the "produce the merch on demand and drop ship it" method is the way to go.
I think ordering 100 shirts to tie up your money and space is a really old and crude method. order enough for the merch table and that's it. the rest gets drop shipped and the band doesn't even handle the actual merch. I would have thought danny g might have been interested in merch money without fronting the merch.
you can have infinite merch in your selection if you don't actually have to make it beforehand. just pull the image file, print the 1-off piece and ship it based on a bandcamp order or anywhere it is ordered from. that is the wonderful machine I have waiting for me to use.

my sis is also a very respected artist. her coffee mugs are in every cracker barrel in the usa and her art has been in lots of American greetings projects. that is who I want as my technical art adviser, so we can dominate.  google: bagnabit    and u can check out her brick and mortar store. (and buy some stuff, she is a super square shooter)
I have a 12 needle embroidery machine to fix too.  needle 12 is fucked up. there are frames for embroidering hats even vs sewing on a pre-made patch.

pissy would dig the mechanicals of an embroidery machine. lots of servos and positioning doo-dads, encoders, steppers yada yada.  the software is the big $. it has to create something that is sewable from basically any random image. think old school CAD plotters that operated on a loose interpretation of vectors to fill in solid areas.

edit: bagnabit's facebook page has a ton of pics of what my sister does and has in her store. it's awesome.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bagnabit/121719441172597?sk=photos_stream
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 27, 2015, 07:35:24 AM
My g-ma was into embroidery.  She did a few things for the band back in the day as well as typical grandma crafts, like blankets and stuff.   Pretty sure it's all still set up, but now she's in her 90's and doesn't get to it that much.

But yeah, converting the art to vector images is the key. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on August 28, 2015, 06:56:30 AM
IDK if anyone else besides rager has a malekko 616 delay, but it has a feature that is really nice and not that common.
my delay is the last step in any chain and it actually has an active buffer when it is turned off to help with hojding the volume constant when switching the effect in and out.
this also lets me run a splitter no sweat.  you can turn the buffer off for trve bypass too of course.  PLUS the modulation tweak trim pots are all outside.
this lil fucker is really well thought out.   that is all.

https://malekkoheavyindustry.com/product/ekko-616-mkii/

(http://proguitarshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/n/analog6163.jpg)

edit: just generalizing about pedals. I have 2 regular use pedals now: the malekko delay and the pharaoh supreme. both were purchased with multi use on synths and guitar and bass in mind. so far they have not disappointed me. and I have the old boss HM-2 for that special tone , but haven't really needed to use it for a while now.
I actually have a 4th "pedal" which is my greta amp's pre-amp tube section for a tube driver. it's maybe too touchy and too small of a sweet spot, so I have been auditioning other tube drivers.  after checking out a ton of demo vids and playing with the pedals at the stores, I am not really impressed by the other distortions or delays. nothing so radical as to justify a $100-$200 investment that's for sure. some of the flangers etc are really limited in their application too.  if you want all that shit, get a digital multieffect and be done with it.
just IMO BLAH-BLAH-BLAHGGING

edit2: one of the 1st secret hidden chamber orchestra songs I made was one I actually put on soundcloud. whole album is "symphonic trance and orchestral jams". I noticed that I am most influenced by Claude Debussey on many of the other tracks. this one was more bombastic bach influenced I think heh. FWIW
these are done live on 1 take and my goal has always been to create a thick audio tapestry, so it's getting there. once I get my mininova/ultranova I can get the foot controller and crazy pads etc going too. All these songs are just with 2 keyboards and no MIDI foot controllers so this is a good sample of what people are going to be hearing out in the middle of a cornfield or the park or wherever I set up and play.

[soundcloud]http://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/fantasyandfudgeincminor1amp[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 28, 2015, 02:15:08 PM
Yes. Very interested in stockless/investment free Merch.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 02, 2015, 03:39:51 AM
ok, we have been kicking around developing a new band merch business model for a while now.

the 1st piece to the puzzle was when my sis obtained the capabilities to one-off items. this lets you beat a silkscreen screen/setup for small quantities.

we knew that the bands needed to be working on their music and presence vs being jc penneys retail clones and getting distracted financially, storing stock and generally dealing with retail sales bullshit.

so th emaking single items and drop shipping problem is gone.  we were stuck on the website/introduction of the fans to the merch. none of us wants to be web weavers.

now bandcamp is here. they wove the web so we don't have to. your music and merch has a place now for the world to see

they play off the back end like how amazon does auctions. when the money comes in  from the sale, the money gets split

Now bandcamp has a provision to attach a paypal. typically the band's paypal.  I will have my sis use her paypal on anything I set up, so I avoided a big problem.


the problem is that the model is still missing a couple pieces in the "funds dispersement" category.   

when a merch item is paid for, the BC peeps take their cut and drop the rest into the band's paypal.  somewhere some further administration is needed to provide the merch mfr and the band their respective proper cuts.

possible thouhts would be to ask paypal to get one notch deeper into splitting the money and be able to register the band AND the merch vendor

work out some arrangement where the band transfers the merch mfr cut, but it is sketchy trying to make accountants out of musicians....

more input is needed.


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I'm not private messaging this because if we can figure this shit out properly, and we will, everyone here can benefit from this merch model, especially when extra cash isn't a real common thing as a rule for most of us.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 02, 2015, 01:27:26 PM
Thanks anyway, but I'd pay good money to ensure you had nothing to do with my band's merch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 02, 2015, 11:38:47 PM
you actually bring up a point that needs clarified:

this isn't about getting business specifically for my sis. this is about building a model for merch that is really nice and smooth for the bands.
you may have your pal somewhere in NM that makes custom t-shirts.   we are trying to shift the paradiggum for everyone.
think bigger than just me and you. I just happen to have the situation that precipitated this line of thought.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 03, 2015, 08:50:22 AM
Regardless, you are dong-level insane and I want nothing to do with you.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 04, 2015, 04:29:01 PM
ok, moving right along, for any of you who actually like the idea of streamlining merch to only collecting money on the back end, any thoughts?

I keep thinking about if bandcamp would set up a vendor registry or something where they could attach merch vendors to the bandcamp acct, the whole thing could be automated:

customer orders merch from bandcamp page
order goes to merch vendor and confirmation goes to band.
when money comes in, bandcamp takes their cut, puts the vendor cost in the vendor paypal and the rest into the band paypal.
merch vendor drop ships the merch and the band never even sees or touches the merch
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 09, 2015, 01:36:31 AM
"Basically sounding like the worst Sunn O))) cover band you've ever heard."

"the band just proceeds to clusterfuck the crap out of anything resembling music. The last track is so lo-fi it literally sounding like a recording, of a recording, recorded and played from a cassette Walkmen."

all in true hades mining co fashion!!

http://builttoblast-vii.blogspot.com/2015/09/adult-diseases.html (http://builttoblast-vii.blogspot.com/2015/09/adult-diseases.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 09, 2015, 12:11:34 PM
 :D You've arrived!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 09, 2015, 10:44:22 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 10, 2015, 02:49:01 AM
mortay.  \m/

wait


\m/ortay

yeah....

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 10, 2015, 03:15:58 AM
ok, insane idea number 703

I want to get one of those really hi end car subs of at least 18" diameter with wtf 2000 watts power handling. something with a stupid low free air resonance and stupid long travel.

places like mb quart make that shit. we have a store with hi end car audio. holy shit is it primo.

Then I want to make a big steel adapter that this big sub mounts to.  the other part of the adapter mounts airtight to a manhole in place of the manhole cover

where is mr foxxen. ponder the volume of that woofer cabinet. ponder the stiffness of the cabinet being cement entombed in the ground.  I believe you could hear god's bass for the first time in your life. like REALLY hear 15-20hz. you can only do it outdoors too.  or in a really big building like a coliseum or giant cathedral.

also, tell me this would NOt be an awesome addition to some flash mob dance party in some random new York alley.  it's all about dat bass, dat bass, dat bass.
pull up with the van, rig the rig. use some kind of monster cable speaker wire yeah!, and have 2 batteries in the vehicle, along with a super heavy duty alternator, a giant mono powerblock and 6 pack of 1 farad caps to bump the bump.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 10, 2015, 07:55:02 AM
Damn, Palace is REALLY firing on all cylinders at this point.  Creatively, we're writing some of the best stuff of my musical career.  Live....we're putting on some of the best performances of our lives.  It didn't want to do a lot of live shows initially, though the way we were in the practice space this week, it was really special, and I'm booking at least two more shows in the fall because I feel like we need to get this out on the stage.

I really appreciate how much hard work everyone has put into this project, it's really paying off in dividends, and I'm pleasantly surprised at the outcome of a project that was rekindled just to have fun and see what happens....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on September 10, 2015, 10:17:44 PM
Bass player in Radiant Beings of Light just confirmed that he is moving to Portland OR next summer with his family. Major blow. Not only is he an amazing human being we have grown to love and create amazing music with, but he also is a real bass player currently ruling a 6 string fretless with us. So now the guitarist and I are wondering... what the fuck do we do?!?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 11, 2015, 12:37:10 AM
thats a bummer. it will be hard to replace a dude who can play the 6 string fretless. thats sick
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 11, 2015, 02:16:01 AM
hey AoC, NOW the PNW is nicer than wherever you live now.

what's keeping you from moving too?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 11, 2015, 08:39:08 AM
Quote from: jibberish on September 11, 2015, 02:16:01 AM
hey AoC, NOW the PNW is nicer than wherever you live now.

what's keeping you from moving too?

I'm thinking job, house, family?  I could be wrong....



That is a tough seat to fill, a 6 string fretless bass.  Good luck finding someone suitable, I'm sure something will arise that's comparable!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on September 11, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
WTF is a NOW PNW? Asheville is pretty tough to beat, job, house and family notwithstanding.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 11, 2015, 03:29:41 PM
But no six string fretless bass players, man.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 11, 2015, 04:51:52 PM
You can get a different bass player, it just won't be 6 string fretless, it will be something different. Keep it going.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on September 11, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
Thanks for the encouragement folks. Gonna keep playing. It's just that phase where you bemoan what you've lost and worry that what comes next might not be as awesome, somehow. We have figured out that we're not willing to play with someone who sucks just to play. So there's that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 11, 2015, 08:29:57 PM
It is damn near impossible to keep a band going, and kudos to the people who can.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 11, 2015, 10:21:39 PM
AoC, I was just making a little joke. I can explain thoroughly if you wish, but sunno basically already explained. heh.
sorry if I upset you, it was supposed to make you laugh.

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edit:
I broke 3 strings today. 2 E's and a G. who breaks a G?

that is one thing about having a few guitars. it doesn't kill your roll, just grab another one and keep going.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on September 11, 2015, 11:49:37 PM
ROWDYBEER and I are recording next weekend (the 19th).  New drummer.  More thrash than doom.  Super excited.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 14, 2015, 08:25:07 AM
SANDIA MAN at Gordyfest last Saturday...

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/SMGordyfest_zpszhumkvni.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/SMGordyfest2_zps3uzzseej.jpg)

Such a great event—SLEEP headlined & mucho dinero was raised for Gordy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on September 14, 2015, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: jibberish on September 11, 2015, 10:21:39 PM
AoC, I was just making a little joke. I can explain thoroughly if you wish, but sunno basically already explained. heh.
sorry if I upset you, it was supposed to make you laugh.

No upsetz here dude, just didn't get it.

(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y387/agencyofchange/joke_zps2iqhlgun.jpg) (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/agencyofchange/media/joke_zps2iqhlgun.jpg.html)

;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 14, 2015, 06:31:37 PM
wow!  Cant get cooler than sharing the stage with sleep!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 14, 2015, 08:23:48 PM
Indeed, we were stoked! Since that Weedeater gig had gotten cancelled, this show was our return to the stage after a 4 year absence.

2 more:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/c9a8766a161fb4e0ec762b2761026154-2_zpsmri75efy.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/bb758214d87d0045d5fd4a9befb8e133-2_zpsk3gjbxau.jpg)
Title: Re:
Post by: socket on September 14, 2015, 08:26:02 PM
You guys were fucking great, dude.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on September 14, 2015, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: RacerX on September 14, 2015, 08:23:48 PM
Indeed, we were stoked! Since that Weedeater gig had gotten cancelled, this show was our return to the stage after a 4 year absence.



(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/c9a8766a161fb4e0ec762b2761026154-2_zpsmri75efy.jpg)


Apologies to any who expected the Monster kick. I only brought this as a backup, in case the backline was crap (it kinda was!) but This is the most intense sounding kit I've ever owned. Soundguy, audience, even Al Cisneros went out of their way to tell me so. This is probably the new SANDIA MAN kit! '70-'71, 3-ply maple/poplar/,\maple Ludwig, clear interiors. Smaller shells, 24", 13" 16", but pure fuckin' magic!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 14, 2015, 09:03:01 PM
Quote from: socket on September 14, 2015, 08:26:02 PM
You guys were fucking great, dude.
Thanks, socket!

Quote from: justJon on September 14, 2015, 08:42:19 PM
Apologies to any who expected the Monster kick. I only brought this as a backup, in case the backline was crap (it kinda was!) but This is the most intense sounding kit I've ever owned. Soundguy, audience, even Al Cisneros went out of their way to tell me so. This is probably the new SANDIA MAN kit! '70-'71, 3-ply maple/poplar/,\maple Ludwig, clear interiors. Smaller shells, 24", 13" 16", but pure fuckin' magic!

Yeah, they did sound pretty huge. A bit tighter & less ringy than the big bombers, too!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 14, 2015, 11:48:09 PM
anyone have any A/V of the show?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 15, 2015, 12:51:56 AM
my realtime surround mixer concept just took a HUGE step forward.  I was just visiting my nephew, the crackerjack IT guy. We were hanging in his garage listening to acid king III. Of course he is going to the show.  I'm the designated driver, so my krue can have all the fun they want.   but I digress...

he was saying the android platform has sick control layers and the SDK's are a joke to make apps.    A processor can easily work a 4 channel mixer. my old soundblaster had a full 32 channel mixer inside it, so puppychow today.  the newer shmancy USB can MUX a whole shitload of data streams, or I could possibly commandeer the surround outputs..whatever.
At the end of the day, there will be a surface or other touch-screen tablet. on the surface will be X circles, each of which represents a channel of the 360 mixer. by touching and moving the pointer on each circle, each channel will be positioned in 3-space, live while performing.

furthermore, a whole bunch of automated sequences can be added in the form of buttons also on the touch screen, like "center/front all channels" button to reset the system to regular stereo spread stage. then crazy ones that can just spin the sound around the room. or flip side to side, or reverse the phase of one side for a second to suck everyone's brains out their ears, etc etc etc.
so I will abandon the 2 axis slide-pot joystick idea until the computer automated deal fails to deliver.

just imagine trippy synth sounds that are already pretty cosmic with the usual stereo and effects , then launch all that shit into living pretzels of sound moving all around the listeners in the sweet-spot circle........out in the middle of the woods somewhere really ecclectic..........yeah..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 03:37:56 AM
Got asked to join a friend's band on bass.. even though I'm not a bass player. Emerald Douglas doesn't have a drummer right now so I think I'm going to give it a try.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 10:36:56 AM
If you're a guitarist, you're also a bassist.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 15, 2015, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 03:37:56 AM
Got asked to join a friend's band on bass.. even though I'm not a bass player. Emerald Douglas doesn't have a drummer right now so I think I'm going to give it a try.

cool brosky, I am considering a bassist audition for myself as well :)  I figure I can do it all but need to limit myself from drums so I get better at vocals guitar bass
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 15, 2015, 02:14:08 PM
2016 is going to be a HUGE year for me musically....

Working on another Palace In Thunderland album, plus a split 12" that the details of which are forthcoming.  Maybe doing a tour with them.


I'm hoping to get started on recording my first solo album, which is going to surprise a lot of people.  And I've got one more big surprise in store for 2016....


Looking forward to it!!  I love making music so much....

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 15, 2015, 04:11:28 PM
congrats on a vinyl release. keep analog alive!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on September 15, 2015, 04:35:26 PM
Quote from: mortlock on September 15, 2015, 04:11:28 PM
congrats on a vinyl release. keep analog alive!!

Thanks man!!  It will be the first one for Palace....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 10:36:56 AM
If you're a guitarist, you're also a bassist.

I'm a guitar player not a guitarist  ;D

This particular band will be all covers. Geezer's lines will challenge me a great deal but Witchfinder General, Vitus, and Pentagram shouldn't be too hard. This is right up my alley.

Along with this offer came an offer to play bass for one of the other bands these folks are in. I can play along with their material without too much difficulty but writing interesting basslines is another thing entirely. I need more time to think that one over but I'm leaning towards trying out.

Might be kind of nice to take a break from my own material.

Quote from: everdrone on September 15, 2015, 01:02:28 PM
cool brosky, I am considering a bassist audition for myself as well :)  I figure I can do it all but need to limit myself from drums so I get better at vocals guitar bass

Hey why not if you have time? Drums is the one that intimidates me the most.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 05:26:37 PM
Are light colored fretboards with black dots easier to see in low lighting compared to dark fretboards with white dots or inlays?

It may be hard for me to simulate this at a store. My Mexican P has a somewhat warped neck and I'm looking for something thinner anyway.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
Send it to me.

I completely unfucked Lumpy's unfixable Jaguar.
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 06:10:10 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
Send it to me.

I completely unfucked Lumpy's unfixable Jaguar.

Might take you up on that although I want something with a thinner neck because my wrists are kinda fucked so I'll probably trade it in. I'd get a short scale but I want 34" clarity for C or C#.

Me and cheap guitars... I need to invest in good shit. (although I had an experienced player once tell me that some of the Mexican made Fender basses are just as good as the American models)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 15, 2015, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 10:36:56 AM
If you're a guitarist, you're also a bassist.


Hey why not if you have time? Drums is the one that intimidates me the most.

cool man, Ill hit him up for more details about the bassist slot and look into it further, cheers :)
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 11:48:57 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 06:10:10 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
Send it to me.

I completely unfucked Lumpy's unfixable Jaguar.

Might take you up on that although I want something with a thinner neck because my wrists are kinda fucked so I'll probably trade it in. I'd get a short scale but I want 34" clarity for C or C#.

Me and cheap guitars... I need to invest in good shit. (although I had an experienced player once tell me that some of the Mexican made Fender basses are just as good as the American models)

or I can shave it thinner. Just HOW thin are you talking? Ibanez thin, or like... a quarter inch thinner? It'll cost less than a new bass... maybe, depends on shipping really.

Oh wait, do you mean neck WIDTH? Not thickness?
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2015, 01:17:23 AM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 11:48:57 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 15, 2015, 06:10:10 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
Send it to me.

I completely unfucked Lumpy's unfixable Jaguar.

Might take you up on that although I want something with a thinner neck because my wrists are kinda fucked so I'll probably trade it in. I'd get a short scale but I want 34" clarity for C or C#.

Me and cheap guitars... I need to invest in good shit. (although I had an experienced player once tell me that some of the Mexican made Fender basses are just as good as the American models)

or I can shave it thinner. Just HOW thin are you talking? Ibanez thin, or like... a quarter inch thinner? It'll cost less than a new bass... maybe, depends on shipping really.

Oh wait, do you mean neck WIDTH? Not thickness?

Both, like a thin fast guitar neck. 4 strings don't actually need all that much room. I briefly played that 'Mikro' short scale(28"?) once and liked the neck a lot. I assume those and similarly priced full size basses are generally crap though and would be fret buzz city with low action.
Title: Re:
Post by: giantchris on September 16, 2015, 01:49:10 AM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 10:36:56 AM
If you're a guitarist, you're also a bassist.
True, but a lot of the time you can tell if someone started as a guitarist or bassist on bass by note choice and note placement.  It's a little bit different.  From a perspective of just playing it though sure absolutely can do either.  You could probably play mandolin and banjo pretty good too I'd imagine since it's mechnically similar.       
Title: Re:
Post by: zachoff on September 16, 2015, 02:02:32 AM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on September 15, 2015, 10:36:56 AM
If you're a guitarist, you're also a bassist.

Yeah, bass is an easier version of guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 16, 2015, 02:21:25 AM
depends.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2015, 02:32:37 AM
^ this and just 'playing along' with a guitar player are completely different. I have tons of respect for bass players who can do their own thing to make a song sound better and more layered, when that works for a song. This is being an actual musician. With my hack guitar/vocal/bass skills combined I still only feel like I'm 25% of the way there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 16, 2015, 02:46:53 AM
Playing bass for a little while will probably make you a better guitar player and songwriter in the end! You can learn the Geezer bass parts pretty easy, it's all pentatonic scale. A lot of bass playing is just mechanical (getting your fingers to execute what you want them to do, and stay in time/groove) which is just a matter of time and practice. You can totally do it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2015, 03:46:28 AM
Right on Lumpy. It's not like we're forming a full on Sabbath tribute, I'm sure I can learn one or two songs on bass with enough practice(and tabs and my 50% slow down CD trainer  :D)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2015, 03:57:59 AM
Any JP-90 fans here? Seems like the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 16, 2015, 04:15:55 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on September 16, 2015, 02:46:53 AM
Playing bass for a little while will probably make you a better guitar player and songwriter in the end! You can learn the Geezer bass parts pretty easy, it's all pentatonic scale. A lot of bass playing is just mechanical (getting your fingers to execute what you want them to do, and stay in time/groove) which is just a matter of time and practice. You can totally do it.

I see it this way too.    

fortunately I am more of a piano player than guitar player. so I see the bass adding it's own part to the sum total of the song.

to me, the best basslines are the ones that add more lock to the groove in the overall song's sound or actually drive the song.
these are not necessarily technical or crazy. guys like flea are basically "drum fillers" and that fancy crap is unnecessary to serve the song.

listen to "mambo number5" bassline  for a part of the song the bass is just 2 notes 2 counts, but it holds the song perfectly while the more lively mambo horns and stuff is happening. anything else would be a distraction. and that solid bom-boom  bom-boom is exactly what is needed

doubling the guitar is an effect that can be used occasionally I suppose.

I still say, study McCartney.  When I learned that song to make the sasquatch made the play, I got to see under the hood of the arrangement of that song. the beatles were old school arrangers like right out of the music academy. they composed basslines and rhythm guitar lines like you would compose classical music.
for those of you who took music theory somewhere you would know point-counterpoint and inter-arranging for several instruments so they combine their different parts into a greater whole without undue duplication.  

I also took apart a bunch of w/e gospel sings out of a hymn book that was laying around.
check out the 4 part arrangement of a song called
"there is a quiet place" I think..was old hoagy song or some composer like him.   the 4 parts are written so amazingly.  but all the songs are like that.
IMO the bassline defines the song, and this is why it makes a person a better guitar player when you realize the guitar is merely pretty wrapping paper.

I say learn "Swing on This" and "They call me the breeze" haha to see why bass is SO fun.

btw, I learn the basslines on the guitar first, but I love finger picking so I play the guitar like a bass while I learn the part. THEN I move it over to that oversized slab and speed it up and smooth it out.

and the proof to what I said is this:  if you start playing those basslines all by themselves you will get people to boogie. there's the proof that that IS the spine of the song haha
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 16, 2015, 04:30:37 AM
regarding monobrow:   I first heard their amazing music and skills w/e going on 10 years ago??? when I made that giant thread in the sr com jamroom of bands to link your music.

I even commented on the technical mastery they all had and the good catchy tunes. and to this very day after listening to their offerings over time, I still do not understand why these guys are not all over the radio. I personally think monobrow is possibly the best band to ever grace either of these boards.

btw, I don't think I am ever allowed into Canada again, so no more montreal for me. I love that place. Europe is only a 2 hr flight from ohio when montreal is involved.
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Liquid, GUESS WHAT I FOUND? haha. i know you were probably about to write me off as totally insane,  runt-style, BUT I FOUND IT!!!!!!

DANZIG 3 booyah.

do you still want it?  is your address still same as before?

you want any king's X?  i tried, but those guys are a bunch of good musicians playing rock elevator music. what a boring blur of cliche. no they didnt cut it over time for me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2015, 01:13:38 PM
Same address but I've figured out that I'm not that much of a Danzig fan so I'm not worthy but thanks for the offer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 16, 2015, 08:26:19 PM
kings x is killer, I like his new project

I am working out bass parts for a prog-rock/metal band audition now, the learning is very intense!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2015, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: everdrone on September 16, 2015, 08:26:19 PM
kings x is killer, I like his new project

I am working out bass parts for a prog-rock/metal band audition now, the learning is very intense!!!

Good luck man!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 17, 2015, 03:07:40 AM
Balls, Witchfinder General tuned down to C, lower than Sabbath, before death metal, before sludge. Damn.

Okay, no it's not really a big deal but I was kind of surprised.

Early Vitus? E! No shit. Less treble is the deal there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on September 17, 2015, 05:58:15 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 16, 2015, 01:13:38 PM
Same address but I've figured out that I'm not that much of a Danzig fan so I'm not worthy but thanks for the offer.

to tell the truth, I can relate to your current platform much more than your earlier platform regarding Glennfidget.

I think i'll give danny g 1st crack at the king's X collection since he knows them and tech'd for them. plus manana (don't know how to make the "nyah" tilde-thing) is his b-day and anniversary of losing our guitar god.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 19, 2015, 06:59:46 AM
Appears I left my mandolin in Prescott AZ.

We'll have to swing by there to get it en route to Tucson tonight.

#dumbass


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 19, 2015, 07:02:20 AM
If you have any doubts about Kings X see them live. That should change your mind.

Then do yourself the additional favor of seeing them every night for a month, for the added experience of seeing how consistent they are night to night.

Jerry Gaskill is a beast on drums too.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on September 22, 2015, 08:58:21 PM
Sooo happy to be back on stage again! This Friday we open for The Skull...(Trouble, plus or minus a few members) Then in October, open for....Acid King!

We're Baaa-aacck! ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 22, 2015, 11:41:34 PM
^awesome
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 22, 2015, 11:45:22 PM
ya you cant beat that!   ;)
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 27, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
Aaaaand my Marshall blew again.

Did the same thing as early. Was cutting out briefly/randomly/intermittently then cut out completely towards end of set.

:(


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 29, 2015, 01:01:53 AM
http://builttoblast-vii.blogspot.com/2015/09/adult-diseases.html (http://builttoblast-vii.blogspot.com/2015/09/adult-diseases.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 29, 2015, 08:43:25 AM
Took Marshall in yesterday.

Guy turned it on n fired right up. >:(

He (front desk, not the tech) was saying I should go through my signal chain/pedals.

I tried to say that would a pedal issue cause the amp to cut out completely? I plugged straight in and amp was still dead.

I left it there to see if the problem would re-present itself.

See what they say...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 29, 2015, 12:05:23 PM
^
bogus. Good luck!

SANDIA MAN finally has some room to breathe between shows, so we'll be bringing a few more old songs into the repertoire, as well as a new one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 29, 2015, 01:21:18 PM
Nice!

Ok. Looks like ohms switch is getting fucky.

Shop said amp ran great all day. Until they switched ohms to try another cab.

Makes sense, a moving part on a 34 year old amp that's only been used regularly (back and forth from guitar to bass, 16 to 4 ohms) in past few years.

I never thought I'd feel a huge sense of relief to find out something is wrong with my amp.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 29, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
And a bad filter cap, turns out.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 30, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
Picked it up today, no charge. I love Austin Vintage Guitars and their techs. Good people.

Trying it out tomorrow in a rehearsal as a bass amp. Make sure it works before a guitar gig on Saturday.

Note to self: pack guitar pedalboard in van.

I used my bass pedalboard last week. The Fulltone bass drive makes an interesting guitar pedal. Was not able to dial in the Snarling Dogs wah tho. Weird.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on October 01, 2015, 04:09:24 PM
Quote from: Danny G on September 30, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
Picked it up today, no charge. I love Austin Vintage Guitars and their techs. Good people.

Trying it out tomorrow in a rehearsal as a bass amp. Make sure it works before a guitar gig on Saturday.

Note to self: pack guitar pedalboard in van.

I used my bass pedalboard last week. The Fulltone bass drive makes an interesting guitar pedal. Was not able to dial in the Snarling Dogs wah tho. Weird.


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Weird but true.  Ive noticed that depending on over all sound of the band im playing with some wahs sound good and some dont.  Ive found that in bands without a bass player or with one that is not just playing a ton of notes i can use a really deep funky wah... but if tbere is a really dominate sounding bass then i need my trebly ice picky wah..... kind of like how big muffs are good in some settings but not others....thats why ive started collecting wahs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2015, 02:53:44 AM
People in bands who rarely go to shows they aren't playing. Discuss.


Kids, work late, work early, never check listings, snow, 'it's too cold', 'that person might be there', 'I hate crowds', 'I hate people', 'I hate everything', stopped paying attention to new bands in '99, Netflix.

Did I miss anything?

I try not to care about turnout(and this isn't about my bands, I'm happy if 10 people show up) but sometimes I'm amazed at the lack of fucks given when a great band comes through. But OF COURSE you want people to show up when your band plays. Or maybe not.
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Post by: socket on October 04, 2015, 03:45:10 AM
Dude when blackfinger played at the pub in Pittsburgh me, slee, And jommy were 3 of 15 in crowd when they played. Was awesome but pathetic. Dont know how to feel when that shit happens.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on October 04, 2015, 12:55:13 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2015, 02:53:44 AM
People in bands who rarely go to shows they aren't playing. Discuss.

this is me. i live outside of town and work tend to work early. i also work an extra 10-20 hours a week easy, if not more, on non-'work' work. i will usually muster if a touring band i like is playing locally (up to about an hour drive each way if necessary), but not always. my band also hardly plays out. we don't really expect people to come out for us but sometimes they do...whether it's just the novelty that we're actually playing or what, i dunno. i think we have a bit of a following, but they don't seem to come out much, either...hermit metal!

i have a number of times driven the hour drive to johnson city, tn to catch a band that didn't play my town, and gone to many many more local shows, too, so maybe it's not me as much...the three who rode in my car were the only not-one-of-the-other-bands people in attendance when indian played here 5 or 6 years ago, so i get the wonderment when cool shit is underattended, too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2015, 02:26:35 PM
Quote from: khoomeizhi on October 04, 2015, 12:55:13 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2015, 02:53:44 AM
People in bands who rarely go to shows they aren't playing. Discuss.

this is me. i live outside of town and work tend to work early. i also work an extra 10-20 hours a week easy, if not more, on non-'work' work. i will usually muster if a touring band i like is playing locally (up to about an hour drive each way if necessary), but not always. my band also hardly plays out. we don't really expect people to come out for us but sometimes they do...whether it's just the novelty that we're actually playing or what, i dunno. i think we have a bit of a following, but they don't seem to come out much, either...hermit metal!

i have a number of times driven the hour drive to johnson city, tn to catch a band that didn't play my town, and gone to many many more local shows, too, so maybe it's not me as much...the three who rode in my car were the only not-one-of-the-other-bands people in attendance when indian played here 5 or 6 years ago, so i get the wonderment when cool shit is underattended, too.

I pardon thee.


I forgot 'tired'. I hear that is a real thing for most people. I can't get to sleep before 3 without melatonin.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 05, 2015, 12:39:55 AM
We're all gettin old.

I've been trying to go out more as of late to network for Ocean of Stars. And last week I hope will earn me some extra credit as I can't get us gigs for shit:

Monday: return home from grueling 11-shows-in-10-days tour after an all day drive from Apline TX (google map that shit). Went to see Apostle of Solitude that night as I have seen Satisfried since 2004

Tuesday: in town gig

Wednesday: went out to see friends play at a venue I'm trying to hit up.

Thursday: rehearsal with another band

Friday: off, stayed home. Needed it.

Saturday: afternoon show in Dallas. Home by 7:30pm. Went to see friends in an old band play. Sat in on one song. Booking agent wasn't there. Shit. Fuck it, had fun.


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Title: Re:
Post by: socket on October 05, 2015, 01:24:04 AM
explain this "tired" again. Kidding.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on October 05, 2015, 05:00:09 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on October 04, 2015, 02:26:35 PM
I can't get to sleep before 3 without melatonin.

that would seriously blow - i get up at 4:45 most mornings.

and danny, i doubt anyone would accuse you of 'rarely going to shows'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 05, 2015, 07:44:05 AM
Thanks.

It's usually a case of missing great shows cause I have a gig.

Kind of a catch 22 that my own band's progress is somewhat stagnated because I'm too busy playing with other bands.

It's almost enough to want to work a straight job so I can focus on my own shit for once.

But fuck working a straight job. (Says the guy who's freelancing for the SXSW Eco conference next three days)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 05, 2015, 11:21:15 AM
I just ordered the Tech21 Oxford pedal. Gonna try replacing that Mesa V-Twin preamp pedal I've been using for so long with the Oxford.

If that doesn't work, I may try the Oxford in front of the chain in place of the modded DS-1 I use for pre-modulation fx dirt.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 05, 2015, 01:38:12 PM
I have the Tech21 Oxford pedal :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 07, 2015, 09:52:48 PM
Well, it got here, and I am VERY impressed.

Haven't done much but start at the "Sabbath Bass" suggested settings and worked a bit from there so far, but it sounds pretty tits already. Tomorrow I'll hit it with some Meathead fuzz & see how it responds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on October 08, 2015, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: RacerX on October 07, 2015, 09:52:48 PM
Well, it got here, and I am VERY impressed.

Haven't done much but start at the "Sabbath Bass" suggested settings and worked a bit from there so far, but it sounds pretty tits already. Tomorrow I'll hit it with some Meathead fuzz & see how it responds.
The Oxford is great I like to use it as a DI box for guitar cleans with a wampler slostorstion for dirt and it sounds awesome.  It takes pedals surprisingly well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 08, 2015, 12:15:33 PM
Well, I love the sound of the Oxford alone, but after I dial in a good tone without extra fuzz, the Meathead is a bit too trebly and boosty to play nice with it.

I tried the fuzz before & after the Oxford and moved the Oxford around, as well, but still no luck. Also picked around with the speaker emulation button, but I don't like the sound of that through a real cabinet very much—I'm sure it helps if you go DI, but I don't. For now, things are sounding pretty okay with this signal chain:

TU-2 > Cool Cat Vibe > Qx (fixed wah with Q adjustment & boost) > Hendrix Crybaby > Tech21 Oxford > modded Boss DS-1 > Morley volume pedal > MXR Carbon Copy > Boss DD-6 > practice amp (Blackstar HT-5 set up clean).

Hopefully, when I try it through the Mesa 50/50 power amp I use live, I'm hoping the lack of a preamp stage may reduce the feedback issue & allow me to work the Meathead back in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 08, 2015, 05:14:05 PM
Yeah, that definitely helped things. I also turned the line level on the Oxford down some.

Meathead is back in place of DS-1.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on October 09, 2015, 07:27:59 AM
hey chief, how do your 2 delays perform for you when used together?  I was kicking around the malekko vs carbon copy and I wanted more crazy from one pedal, so I ended up with the malekko.

but I never thought of putting a digital behind an analog delay. With 2 delays, full on crazy from one unit isn't that necessary and the carbon copy is nice, albeit a bit more restrained or mellower or w/e

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I think the recording room is about finished gearwise.  I cant wait to get back to just buying noisy toys.

it is getting down to the wire:
-I still need 2 of those 4 x 1 passive MIDI splitters from sweetwater
-I want to get a couple more mics yet, including that MXL ribbon when it goes on sale. Also, just as importantly, snag 2 EV cobalt vocal mics and one more 57.
-the 17-pedal sound design MIDI foot controller to finish all my foot control. I can build on/off/sustain or any kind of switched pedals myself
-one celestion greenback for low power recording
-hi-tech clip-on tuner. haven't decided yet in which one. I will wait until CES on this one possibly because microprocessor doodads are really being massively developed these days.
(I would expect some clown like behringer to emulate strymon's stuff  for a fraction of the price at some point. Strymon has to put their algorithm into a chip in order to sell their  pedal, so it is there for the taking.)
-eBow


fun toys after the bullshit will be that honey tele with the suicide switchplate/single coils and brass parts in the tailpiece. that baby sings.
also a blitz of used synths as they get replaced by newer models
annnd I am getting an Ibanez acoustic bass because of the fun factor.
just piling up the ca$hi$h for now........
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 10, 2015, 02:18:50 PM
Fuck it. Meathead still too shrill/feedbacky with the Oxford.

Flipped the V-Twin & picked up a Fulltone Fat boost and some other stuff.

Meathead out; Fat Boost in, and it is sounding BADASS.

TU-2 > Cool Cat Vibe > Qx (fixed wah with Q adjustment & boost) > Hendrix Crybaby > Tech21 Oxford > Fulltone Fat Boost > Morley volume pedal > MXR Carbon Copy > Boss DD-6 > Mesa 50/50 power amp > split into 1968 Sunn 4x12 (Original rebranded Jenson "Sunn Transducer Speakers") & Avatar 2x12 (Celestial G12H30s).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 10, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
I impulsively bought a Boss DD-3 on Ebay. I think I spent too much ($60) especially because I'd rather have the DD-6 (warp mode). The DD-3 has a Hold (freeze) mode though.

Stupid G.A.S.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 10, 2015, 03:16:21 PM
Wow, you actually took the vtwin out of the loop?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on October 10, 2015, 05:46:31 PM
Racer, I've been waiting to see how that worked out for you.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 10, 2015, 05:52:07 PM
here is my clip of the oxford tech 21 pedal used for all guitars:

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance/behemoth-awakens[/soundcloud]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 10, 2015, 09:10:40 PM
Yes, the V-Twin is dead; long live the Oxford!! The Fat Boost was also just what the Dr. ordered.

At practice today, things were sounding very good, indeed!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on October 10, 2015, 11:53:27 PM
Dead as in needs repaired, or just going off into the gearpile in the sky?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 11, 2015, 12:05:45 AM
Joined my friend's Frosty/blacky/thrashy band on bass. They just want root notes and I'm fine with that. Had my first practice with them yesterday and it went well and was fun. First gig will be in a month. I have a lot to memorize but I'm not worried. My newly acquired Ibanez Mikro bass(guitar sized and 28.6" scale) is working out well into my new Amptweaker TightMetal Pro(guitar pedal) for dirt. Using the 'P' pup only with the tone knob on zero. Very fat and warm sounding and not too muddy.

These are the folks who also want to do the old/trad doom metal tribute band.

Fuck yeah!

Additionally I want to write and record more Emerald Douglas stuff for a drummer to track over later, maybe start on some new Orogen material, and record a rough short demo of some of my '60s/psych ideas where I play all of the instruments myself.

The dishes and laundry can just pile up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 11, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on October 10, 2015, 11:53:27 PM
Dead as in needs repaired, or just going off into the gearpile in the sky?

Only metaphorically dead—it resides in the local Music-Go-Round now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 11, 2015, 10:52:50 AM
Ocean of Stars reconvening rehearsal this coming week. Refreshing the existing material (haven't played together since gig in August) and beginning work on some new.

I really need to play guitar at the house. Played a gig with Bleu last night and definitely felt that fact that I've barely touched a 6-string since a gig 2 weeks ago... :/

Playing bass has def made me s bit lazy/complacent. "Eh, I play all the time. I don't feel like it. Blah blah blah."

Well genius, playing bass and playing guitar are like power lifting and being a gymnast respectively.

Practice, you lazy SOB. You don't want to suck at your OWN music, do you?

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 12, 2015, 07:01:44 PM
Tip: Don't leave a guitar in a case in a basement for years. The metal on it can turn green.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on October 12, 2015, 08:56:24 PM
Quote from: everdrone on October 10, 2015, 05:52:07 PM
here is my clip of the oxford tech 21 pedal used for all guitars:

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance/behemoth-awakens[/soundcloud]

yeah thats a spicy meatball. ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 12, 2015, 09:02:04 PM
rock!!!!   :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 13, 2015, 04:23:15 PM
Been playing the Ocean of Stars material at home yesterday n today in prep for rehearsal tonight.

Feels good! I've missed playing this stuff and looking forward to tonight!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on October 18, 2015, 04:02:13 PM
Its been a few years since I performed on stage.  I've spent a long time on the other side of the console making other bands louder. I debuted my new project at a local bar and pretty much nailed it.  In fact, I've never walked away happier from a gig.  Lots of practice and preparation went into this plus working with true professional artists and seeing how they command a stage definitely helped.  We spend a lot of time learning how to master our instruments but there is not a lot of time spent learning how to perform.  I can't wait to get back on stage again.  I did not realize how much I missed it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 19, 2015, 05:34:05 PM
^
Good on ya!

Welcome back to the stage, sub!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on October 23, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
Our new album was released today

If anyone wants a physical copy pm me.

It's $5 to download the album and .99 cents per song


It's balls to the wall huge riffed fuzzed out super action rock!!!

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12046780_10208084519929482_4511109834503908234_n.jpg?_nc_eui=AYTQduRqDCRckDeQYkbRnp6J-sjQfMkOzxOJtQw5jntS7D51hs3m_tLadKH7LNWDNU9ueuD2&oh=e96861d11be8d92110fa1fd36fe8e603&oe=5687CF49)

Here are some links

http://www.amazon.com/Mass-Driver/dp...ds=Mass+Driver

https://massdriverrockpower.bandcamp.com/

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/massdriver

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/ma...p/id1050370165

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12105773_544169849065914_3101748602956584600_n.jpg?_nc_eui=AYRlD4ZqD5iw6jsR-MyNHT4vBvdJFgCWGm6rMuJGLfZ08B2OjpRe2GBNRG9AxkbG2mUU5VpI&oh=b71777f2689127a64d6f03b93b7ebef9&oe=56BB2F95)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on October 25, 2015, 06:55:33 AM
Quote from: bbottom on October 23, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
Our new album was released today
It's balls to the wall huge riffed fuzzed out super action rock!!!

Finally got a chance to listen to it. Its definitely fuzzed out super action rock!  I love it, I'm buying it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on October 25, 2015, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: Submarine on October 25, 2015, 06:55:33 AM
Quote from: bbottom on October 23, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
Our new album was released today
It's balls to the wall huge riffed fuzzed out super action rock!!!

Finally got a chance to listen to it. Its definitely fuzzed out super action rock!  I love it, I'm buying it.

awesome. Thanks man
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 26, 2015, 12:39:00 PM
Good stuff, bb! Do I taste a bit of Fu Manchu influence in that stew?

This AM before work I came up with a super-badass chorus riff to the one of the most badass verse riffs I've ever written.

MUAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! This song is gonna DESTROY.

*rubs hands together*
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on October 26, 2015, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: RacerX on October 26, 2015, 12:39:00 PM
Good stuff, bb! Do I taste a bit of Fu Manchu influence in that stew?

This AM before work I came up with a super-badass chorus riff to the one of the most badass verse riffs I've ever written.

MUAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! This song is gonna DESTROY.

*rubs hands together*

thanks!  Yea Fu is a ok with us.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 06, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
I have a guitar in E standard again and am running my fuzz into the Carvin on the 25 watt setting and wow, it doesn't take much volume to get things into super ridiculous breakup realms. So sweet. This will be perfect for recording some psych, just need a good Univibe clone and I'll be set.

(http://www.analogman.com/graphics/darkpeppermint.jpg)

http://www.analogman.com/pepper.htm
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 06, 2015, 05:02:16 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 06, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
just need a good Univibe clone and I'll be set.

Here's what I'm using—it only cost me $40 new:

(http://www.music123.com/derivates/19/001/257/529/DV020_Jpg_Jumbo_482334.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 06, 2015, 05:16:25 PM
I hate the form of the Danelectro pedals.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 08, 2015, 02:39:44 AM
I had a Cool Cat a few years back and vaguely remember liking the tones but the volume was either too loud or too quiet so I sold it.

The original?-

(http://tonereport.com/uploads/img/shin-ei_uni-vibe_001.png)

It looks like I'm seeing a chorus/vibrato switch but I don't even know which setting produces the sound it's most well known for. The foot control jack is also intriguing. There is so much I don't know about this pedal. Time to Google and Youtube.

HENDRIX!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on November 08, 2015, 02:54:38 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 08, 2015, 02:39:44 AM

HENDRIX!

And lots of early Robin Trower.  Bridge of Sighs
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 08, 2015, 04:19:45 PM
Tower uses the Fulltone Mini-Dejavibe now.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/miniDejaVBk?adpos=1o1&creative=55282474801&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CLTO1KzggckCFVU2aQodY98IMg

About $150.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on November 08, 2015, 05:51:59 PM
Quote from: RacerX on November 08, 2015, 04:19:45 PM
Tower uses the Fulltone Mini-Dejavibe now.


Looks cool.  I'll have to check that one out. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 08, 2015, 09:13:50 PM
I've been wanting to experiment with a Uni-vibe.

I can get some cool swish with my R-28 modded Phase 90 on a higher rate.

But it's just not that more transparent under water Hendrix sound.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 08, 2015, 11:12:08 PM
Ocean of Stars begins studio work on a single on Tuesday.

This'll be the first time I've been in an actual studio with my own music since Ironclad in 2007.

Stoked!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Bro. Righteous on November 09, 2015, 02:54:14 PM
Right on - man, I really dug your Ironclad stuff.
Where's that link where your playing live on the radio station?
Good luck on the recording, we'll be heading into the studio next month too - such a stoked feeling I concur.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2015, 03:34:35 AM
First show tonight on bass with the black metalish band. At one point I was playing the wrong riff and had a bad fumble in another song but overall it went okay. The guitar and cymbal treble made it pretty surreal but I'll get used to it(if my right ear ever stops ringing).

https://tubalcain1.bandcamp.com
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 10, 2015, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2015, 03:34:35 AM
First show tonight on bass with the black metalish band. At one point I was playing the wrong riff and had a bad fumble in another song but overall it went okay. The guitar and cymbal treble made it pretty surreal but I'll get used to it(if my right ear ever stops ringing).

https://tubalcain1.bandcamp.com

they sound nice and sludgy!  hope you had fun, remember earplugs or gunshot muffs next time lol!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2015, 11:30:38 PM
Quote from: everdrone on November 10, 2015, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 10, 2015, 03:34:35 AM
First show tonight on bass with the black metalish band. At one point I was playing the wrong riff and had a bad fumble in another song but overall it went okay. The guitar and cymbal treble made it pretty surreal but I'll get used to it(if my right ear ever stops ringing).

https://tubalcain1.bandcamp.com

they sound nice and sludgy!  hope you had fun, remember earplugs or gunshot muffs next time lol!

My mistake was thinking that not wearing earplugs would help me hear. Wrong. The high end was insane and disorienting. My Hearos will be in next time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 11, 2015, 01:25:46 AM
Yeah. I always at least use bar napkins or tissues as earplugs. Not optimal, but readily available.

If I'm far enough away from the drummer I can get by without, which is good on occasion to remember what things actually sound like.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 11, 2015, 01:33:00 AM
waves crashing piano chords should change his name to VonKunt.  ......way meaner sounding bandname.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 11, 2015, 01:33:41 AM
Drums done for the single Ocean of Stars is recording.

It's an interesting experience to be teaching others how to play music I wrote every note for. The music is very scripted but I'm allowing the songs to drift away from my original solo recordings.

The drummer's kick/snare pattern is way more active than my original template. I could have wasted studio time and corrected him, but he's a way better drummer than I'll ever be.

So instead I'll be working with the bassist on re-writing the existing bassline to match up better to the new recorded version. I'll be putting the rough mix we have (drums and reference guitar) into my 8-track and work with her on piecing together a new bassline then burn a copy so she can listen and practice at home, then subsequently nail it when she goes in to track.

The sax shouldn't be a problem, difference in kick/snare will have no bearing on his melody lines.

The only studio magic we will be employing is lifting the bridge section from a later pass onto the final drum track. There was a fill he did the second time that he didn't do the first that locks in with a very intricate little part.




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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on November 11, 2015, 05:02:38 AM
Roadtrip with Kal-El!

Nov.13 - Klub Linse, Berlin, Germany
Nov.15 - Bar 227, Hamburg, Germany
Nov.17 - Klub u Bazyla, Poznan, Poland
Nov.18 - TBA (Rostock, Germany)
Nov.20 - Ny V58, Århus, Denmark

Check us out if you're in the neighborhood :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: sleestak on November 11, 2015, 08:42:40 AM

Quote from: Danny G on November 11, 2015, 01:33:41 AM
Drums done for the single Ocean of Stars is recording.

It's an interesting experience to be teaching others how to play music I wrote every note for. The music is very scripted but I'm allowing the songs to drift away from my original solo recordings.

The drummer's kick/snare pattern is way more active than my original template. I could have wasted studio time and corrected him, but he's a way better drummer than I'll ever be.

So instead I'll be working with the bassist on re-writing the existing bassline to match up better to the new recorded version. I'll be putting the rough mix we have (drums and reference guitar) into my 8-track and work with her on piecing together a new bassline then burn a copy so she can listen and practice at home, then subsequently nail it when she goes in to track.

The sax shouldn't be a problem, difference in kick/snare will have no bearing on his melody lines.

The only studio magic we will be employing is lifting the bridge section from a later pass onto the final drum track. There was a fill he did the second time that he didn't do the first that locks in with a very intricate little part.




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I like reading your process.   Can't wait to hear the music.   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 11, 2015, 08:49:39 AM
Danny G = Becker & Fagen.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 11, 2015, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: RacerX on November 08, 2015, 04:19:45 PM
Tower uses the Fulltone Mini-Dejavibe now.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/miniDejaVBk?adpos=1o1&creative=55282474801&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CLTO1KzggckCFVU2aQodY98IMg

About $150.

Sounds like the ticket, these get good reviews and the online demos sound great. They also make a pedal unit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 11, 2015, 11:02:38 AM

Quote from: RacerX on November 11, 2015, 08:49:39 AM
Danny G = Becker & Fagen.  ;)

Steely Danny G? m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Hagard on November 11, 2015, 11:06:06 AM
I've been convinced into finally putting together a patch jacket I have a box with a few in a wardrobe, it contains the stranglers, genesis (early 70's) the Tubes a ying yang as well as Mayhem and a skull girl pin-up do you think that makes a good start?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 11, 2015, 11:39:37 AM
Quote from: Hagard on November 11, 2015, 11:06:06 AM
I've been convinced into finally putting together a patch jacket I have a box with a few in a wardrobe, it contains the stranglers, genesis (early 70's) the Tubes a ying yang as well as Mayhem and a skull girl pin-up do you think that makes a good start?



yes!  there is a thread about PATCH JACKETS that might give you a few more ideas:

http://riffrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=10658.0
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Hagard on November 11, 2015, 01:28:43 PM
Thank you mate  :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 12, 2015, 04:08:42 AM
You need one of these for sure

(http://74.86.93.54/product_image.php?imageid=4289)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Hagard on November 12, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
I would have loved to have gotten a back patch of "Tails from the Topographical ocean"
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 12, 2015, 01:24:30 PM
Ok, due to schedules won't be able to meet up with Ocean of Stars bassist until after Thanksgiving.

So going in Monday to start cutting guitar until the sax player shows up \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 13, 2015, 01:43:01 AM
Quote from: Hagard on November 12, 2015, 10:04:32 AM
I would have loved to have gotten a back patch of "Tails from the Topographical ocean"

You could make one from a shirt. Perfect for the back of a tunic or robe.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bitter on November 14, 2015, 08:06:08 PM
Went to play some mini amps today. Looking for a hi gain/low wattage rig for practice. At the top of my list were the 6505mh and the evh 5150lbx. I got to play the little 5150, and while it was cool, it did not have a true clean channel and lacked any low end whoomp. We think it was the Dr. Z 2x12 (loaded with old Fender Utahs) that made it feel so lifeless even though the gain was great.

Then we tried an orange or15. Not bad at all, especially as it's single channel. Lots of potential in its clean and dirty tones. Way ballsier feeling with a paired ppc2x12 with V30's. Decided to skip on retrying the 5150lbx with that cab.

Still want to try the 6505mh as it has more features and control options, but they were not available. I need to get the return policy in writing before ordering one. Need to call round other shops first. But at $200 less, I hope it is a better option.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 14, 2015, 08:55:00 PM
I really want an or15 or a hovercraft
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bitter on November 15, 2015, 01:03:30 AM
I was extremely surprised by the or15. It wasn't really on my radar because of stuff I read on here a while back and because it lacked some features. Not sure it was worth 7 bills to me personally, but still awesome. I probably should have tried the EVH with the orange cab, because it simply didn't move air at low volume they way the or15 did. Again, that made me feel not super stoked for the $700 price tag. Tone was fine, features were a slight let down.

I'm still keen to try higher end stuff like the mini offerings from Engl and Mesa, but the cost will only be justifiable if they really sound and function well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 15, 2015, 12:32:39 PM
hovercraft dwarvenaut 20 watters seem cool too: http://hovercraftamps.com/dwarvenaut-20/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on November 16, 2015, 09:38:37 PM
So Trump is in town tonight for some big ass rally. And I thought that it would be a good time to go down there and let the the people know that their was another candidate(s) that they should consider when placing their vote......one that is a true voice for the people and change.

Check it out



This dude was really cool. He told me that he sang in the Opera and was learning how to play guitar
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t34.0-12/12233409_10207887727176212_817507464_n.jpg?oh=74a98f9ffd3f57fbf3996f4abf90d0a1&oe=564CB3A5)


The guy on the right is our buddy (and a hell of a guitar player) who does all of our recordings
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t35.0-12/12269051_10207886797992983_1045064468_o.jpg?oh=07e2968c4c3fe0c7b730a6daa8c1b033&oe=564DB0BA)

Me trying to sex up a protester dressed like Wonder Woman

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t35.0-12/12255371_10207886857994483_2112591339_o.jpg?oh=e772aafc0b24fbdc241fb32f00dacf74&oe=564C9B5D)

I protest you.....Sun Sphere!!!!
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t34.0-12/12242157_10207887727016208_339325689_n.jpg?oh=1d1354ffcd20b8045b41f34e929a9d13&oe=564C6CF8)

Our drummer rocking out to a tambourine that he got off of some hippie   



Overall it was a blast. I was there to have fun and make an ass out of myself and accomplished both. A bunch of the Trump supporters were yelling at the protesters and the police presence was nuts. A few of them were giving the drummer and I shit for standing where we weren't supposed to be standing (we weren't in the "Free Speech area") A few cops asked what our signs meant and when we told them that it was our band they were really cool. We tried to get a picture of them holding them but they wouldn't do it.
A few of the protesters asked what the signs meant and when we told them we got a bunch of rolled eyes. Ha ha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 17, 2015, 08:43:54 AM
Completed sax and guitar last night for the Ocean of Stars single. Knocked em both out in about 3 or 4 hours m/,

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/17/674fc30051722b81655d219a7694d3bc.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/17/0dade9c667777838b8c58e04412abe79.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/17/faa6ae53e138b41ddd15aeaf1d946fd9.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/17/313436b4c0da2121a43568d87bc3eaea.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 19, 2015, 02:05:59 AM
Spirit Caravan was fantastic last night. Played two new songs and a '90s Obsessed song. Early in their set they had some sort of malfunction and I think Sherman was playing the wrong riff or two for half a minute, made me realize that shit can happen to anyone.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 25, 2015, 01:21:18 AM
Playing bass for Cheetah Chrome (Dead Boys) this weekend, New Orleans and Houston. Gonna be awesome!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 25, 2015, 09:59:57 AM
That's awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on November 25, 2015, 07:07:18 PM
Very cool!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Beta Cloud on November 26, 2015, 01:46:57 AM
massive amounts of greatness happening in those pics.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 26, 2015, 03:24:09 AM
Black Friday deals online on pedals and other gear, look around if there's stuff you've been needing (usually 10-15% off, not mindblowing but it helps). Also, lots of used gear being flipped online now (the gear page, ilovefuzz, talkbass) as people raise funds for Christmas. Great time to feed your GAS.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on November 27, 2015, 01:54:08 AM
hope everyone had a nice TG day.

my cousin turned me onto "Live from Daryl's House"

D Hall converted some big old farmhouses I guess in upstate NY into a private venue.
these videos are most excellent
hi def.  the gear the GEAR those guys all have. and really cool pro jams. just pros hanging out relaxed.
yes most excellent

remember wolfgang's vault has been compiling concert footage for 10+ years and it is free.

has anyone checked out that "Qello" concert streaming service yet?

what a pile of crap for black Friday sales.....

the only thing I see I kind of want is a Schecter tele (PT)from sweetwater:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PT2142GLD?adpos=1o1&creative=55280653081&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CLjpkNGBsMkCFYU-aQodPtsCXQ
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8V83GYgo3D4zenhN_cas53vJgMXn2E5qExFy7zQFETovJAA3blQ)

edit:

here is billy gibbons visiting daryl , playing lagrange and telling stories about bb king and thin gauge strings. these really are great
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 30, 2015, 12:45:26 AM
Beatles cover. much better than the original.
https://soundcloud.com/hadesminingco/paperback-writer-beatles-cover (https://soundcloud.com/hadesminingco/paperback-writer-beatles-cover)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 30, 2015, 03:19:48 AM
http://www.boredbrainmusic.com

(http://static1.squarespace.com/static/559a8e02e4b0dd60321fff10/t/56250f59e4b06bce1ba452a5/1445277304560/Patchulator8000-img01.jpg)

Good idea.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 30, 2015, 03:38:54 AM
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12308501_10207749057341682_4882656404121024816_n.jpg?oh=ee0138c1e0570abce96c12aed674e6ba&oe=56ED8B78)

The new Deja Vibe is sounding good especially with the fuzz into it. Not digging the RMC wah tones like I used to though, might try something different, preferably switchless.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on November 30, 2015, 01:52:30 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on November 30, 2015, 03:38:54 AM

The new Deja Vibe is sounding good especially with the fuzz into it.

niiiiice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 30, 2015, 05:43:48 PM
(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/effects2015/12.png)

ordered
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 30, 2015, 08:05:44 PM
that Ibanez WD7 Weeping Demon wah looks killer dude! I hate my footswitch too, lemme know how you like it, I might switch up as well

here is a clip of the wah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EnKSkaymdA
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 30, 2015, 08:26:15 PM
I have a Weeping Demon, it seems to work well on bass and guitar. It doesn't sound the same as other wahs (?) like Crybabies. Not sure how to explain it, I don't know that much about wahs anyway. But it's kind of a sleeper wah, IMO. Takes a minute to dial it in (look under the toe).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on November 30, 2015, 09:43:08 PM
cool, sounds like the cats pajamas

***this is my post number 666***
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 01, 2015, 12:10:52 AM
Will report. It's got all the bells and whistles. My RMC is sounding way too trebly these days for whatever reason no matter how much I tweak the knobs although to be fair the last time I used it for E tuned psych rock was a few years back with a different guitar and amp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 01, 2015, 04:40:17 AM
Based on what you just said, the Weeping Demon is a good wah to try. It seems very "throaty" to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 01, 2015, 01:50:42 PM
The price is right and I generally use wah with my fuzz so the tone is hard to fuck up.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 02, 2015, 04:31:16 PM
Hey, you should check out this tuning: CGCGCD.

Try exploring the fretboard on one or two strings while droning the others—it's practically impossible to sound bad!

You're welcome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on December 03, 2015, 12:25:14 AM
Just came across this thing today, it's got me really damn interested.  The potential of things you could arrange in this thing, and without having to unplug too much or really think too much.  But then again, maybe it's just not that useful?

http://www.boredbrainmusic.com/ (http://www.boredbrainmusic.com/)

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/e34871bdd336f0e5905a198a917a4ca3/tumblr_nyowf4JIgq1r935hdo8_1280.jpg)
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/fb1f9be8b9bd632452f6ba18baa18022/tumblr_nyowf4JIgq1r935hdo6_1280.png)
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/bee85f2bd23de5454a52dcffc3c5cf77/tumblr_nyowf4JIgq1r935hdo1_r1_540.png)
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/37c8b82fe52a0ae8b083208bf234b6c5/tumblr_nyowf4JIgq1r935hdo2_r1_540.png)
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/b3c502665d3b0216ed233153ca086198/tumblr_nyowf4JIgq1r935hdo3_r1_540.png)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on December 03, 2015, 06:55:30 AM
Why the fuck did it take so long for someone to think of a patch bay for a pedal board?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 03, 2015, 05:19:29 PM
try and get that thing on a plane and watch what happens.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 03, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
There's been programmable switchers for a while now. Maybe more functional than this (how do you switch here? Unplugging and replugging cables?) Probably more expensive too.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 05, 2015, 02:31:56 AM
scavenger plan A: 

step 1: wait until GC has a used old patchbay for $29.  this piece of gear possesses a shitload of female panelmount 1/4" jacks for repurposing.

step 2: get out sharpie and draw arrows -n- shit if useful as-is, otherwise find a suitably sized candy tin or w/e as a case and bone out some of the 1/4" jacks.

step 3: get assload of 1/4"-1/4" male-male cables(fck 1/8" entirely)

step 4: hook up.


also, the more connections you make in a chain, the more noise it picks up

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

lumpy, just FYI and your mental pedal database, i saw an LSTR in the GC used gear for $119.   

i also predict a huge crash in the pedal market leaving only the genuinely unique ones standing at these higher prices.
pedals are the one niche product where hand-work and custom stuff survives the price they ask.
However, the big boys are saturating the market with digital stuff since it cost pennies vs analog.
they are going to fuck themselves. there are so many pedal brands it is off the hook
i think behringer is a good example of the beginning of the crash with their $30 pedals that work
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 08, 2015, 08:41:37 PM
met a potential drummer for the band. craigslist find. we got a jam scheduled for next weekend. i hope this guy works out. he seems like everything we want the next guy to be. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on December 09, 2015, 12:59:27 AM
First jam session with a bassist.  I finally don't have my feet planted on my Taurus Pedals 100% of the time - I'm unchained!  Also picked up an MIM Fender Precision.  Looks like lots of low end in my immediate future.   ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 09, 2015, 01:29:31 PM
Did an interview with a local online music publication:

http://www.soundprofilemagazine.com/wp/?p=2418


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 09, 2015, 01:57:20 PM
Nice!

How did the Cheetah Chrome gig go?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 09, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
Fun!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on December 09, 2015, 07:13:28 PM
Story time!  I was at GC picking up some mics and looking at sound boards when some dude brings in a 5 foot long board, Mackie, in a real case, with a rack mount somethingorother.  I over hear him asking for $200.  I ask him Wha?! $200?! Yeah we are down sizing he says.  I can't even process how many channels and crap this thing has.  And I want it, I want to take it home, but where the fuck am I going to put it?  It wouldn't fit on the dining room table.  It's too fucking huge.  I don't ever want to record a symphony orchestra.  I could try selling it for a profit on clist?  no, walk away from it dogfood, just walk.  So, I walked away.  From 48 channels of stupidity.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 10, 2015, 04:05:00 AM
too bad I don't need to mix the Cleveland orchestra either.

A while back I scored a Mackie 16 ch there for $300. It was one of the nice old school ones, just a straight 4-buss mixer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 11, 2015, 08:11:11 PM
when is the 2x15 bass cab going to start being made again. it seems like no one makes them anymore.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 11, 2015, 08:31:37 PM
Not sure, but I think bass speakers have advanced so that speaker size isn't a big factor anymore. People also don't want to haul big cabs (cars are smaller now, etc). So there's lots of 10 and 12 speaker cabs.

What about buying used?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 11, 2015, 09:10:21 PM
Trace Elliot and Mesa both make 2x15s.

Check these guys out too- http://www.440live.com/products/category/8
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: giantchris on December 12, 2015, 03:58:12 AM
You can always go for a used Peavey 215D or a Kustom 2x15 Tuck N Roll can all usually be had cheap used. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 12, 2015, 11:13:55 AM
my gallien 410s weigh 40 pounds each, they are a dream!  they sound great, so Ill recommend lightweight gallien 115s to stack if that speaker type is needed.  I do prefer my 810 sound over that though.

115 new cheap and light:  http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MB115-II

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CX115
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 12, 2015, 02:09:15 PM
If you can track down a Dietz 2x15 with EVs, DO EET!!!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 12, 2015, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: everdrone on December 12, 2015, 11:13:55 AM
115 new cheap and light:  http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MB115-II

200 watts is rather old timey by today's standards. I use 600s and sometimes need most of that power handling.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 12, 2015, 06:21:07 PM
ya true, I would prolly get the 115 non combo versions and a head if I wanted the 15''s
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 14, 2015, 12:14:16 AM
I wanted to buy a pedal on Ebay, it was listed for $50 "Buy It Now" but it said "Make Offer" too. So I offered him $40. He sent me back a counter-offer for $48 and a note saying that was as low as he would go.

WTF? ??? Why even  take offers, if you're only willing to go down by $2?
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Post by: socket on December 14, 2015, 12:30:18 AM
Just offer like 43 back. Fuck it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 14, 2015, 02:22:13 AM
lol what a conundrum ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 14, 2015, 03:44:21 AM
I was so mystified that I let the counter-offer expire (eBay gives you like 2 days to reply).

Here's something else - some "make an offer" deals are set up so that it's an 'instant agree' and Ebay asks you to pay immediately.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 12:03:34 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 01, 2015, 12:10:52 AM
Will report. It's got all the bells and whistles. My RMC is sounding way too trebly these days for whatever reason no matter how much I tweak the knobs although to be fair the last time I used it for E tuned psych rock was a few years back with a different guitar and amp.

how is the weeping demon wah pedal?  I got a need for that!  I do not like my footswitch mode wah and want an auto mode wah pedal :) can I haz?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2015, 03:43:26 AM
Quote from: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 12:03:34 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 01, 2015, 12:10:52 AM
Will report. It's got all the bells and whistles. My RMC is sounding way too trebly these days for whatever reason no matter how much I tweak the knobs although to be fair the last time I used it for E tuned psych rock was a few years back with a different guitar and amp.

how is the weeping demon wah pedal?  I got a need for that!  I do not like my footswitch mode wah and want an auto mode wah pedal :) can I haz?

I like it. The tone is good and it's super adjustable and easy to operate so I'm going to use and record with it for awhile. If you need thee '60s wah sound this isn't the one though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 01:02:04 PM
cool man, Im prolly gonna get one too! Like you said the tone is good for the downtuned heavy rock stuff.  I like the bass wah function too.  win! 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 16, 2015, 05:28:32 PM
The only tricky part with the Weeping Demon (for me) is getting the wah to "ease in" and not jump in suddenly (which you can do, with some adjusting). That's my first and only wah though, maybe they're all like that? I like to use it subtly too, like a filter - just barely there sometimes (and not working the treadle up and down). YMMV. It can come in dramatically too, if that's what you need.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 06:27:12 PM
my jerry cantrell wah annoys me cause I am just not calibrated to it.

I turn it on and cant really hear it on in the mix, then I start wondering if I activated it.  so ya it comes on subtle sounding in the mix.  I could see how the active wah not being subtle is less wanted though.  I was looking at the Tremonti active wah too, but I like the weeping demon bass guitar option and just wanna hear more youtube videos of it.

Tremonti Wah:

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2015, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 01:02:04 PM
cool man, Im prolly gonna get one too! Like you said the tone is good for the downtuned heavy rock stuff.

I've actually been working on more '60s style E standard psych stuff lately but I don't want to mess around trying a zillion wahs in search of the Clapton/Hendrix/etc sound again so I'm just using this one. I can't play for shit anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Quote from: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 06:27:12 PM
my jerry cantrell wah annoys me cause I am just not calibrated to it.

I turn it on and cant really hear it on in the mix, then I start wondering if I activated it.  so ya it comes on subtle sounding in the mix.  I could see how the active wah not being subtle is less wanted though.

If your dirt is after the wah it's going to be subtle. Try a distortion pedal in front or maybe try sticking it in your effects loop if you are using amp distortion.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2015, 11:45:27 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on December 16, 2015, 05:28:32 PM
The only tricky part with the Weeping Demon (for me) is getting the wah to "ease in" and not jump in suddenly (which you can do, with some adjusting). That's my first and only wah though, maybe they're all like that?

Got mine brand new and the dial only controls the delay of the easing off, only it doesn't ease because it's sudden when it happens. They may have changed the unit. I suspect that every wah on the market is suddenly on with no easing option, stomp or 'switchless'. I think I generally mute the strings right before kicking or stepping unless I want that sudden sound. Timing rocking it off during a song is taking me a bit of getting used to because I have a bit of delay for that set to avoid the thing turning off and on over and over when my heel goes down.

Not analog, not trve bypass! Oh my!  ::)  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 17, 2015, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2015, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 01:02:04 PM
cool man, Im prolly gonna get one too! Like you said the tone is good for the downtuned heavy rock stuff.

I've actually been working on more '60s style E standard psych stuff lately but I don't want to mess around trying a zillion wahs in search of the Clapton/Hendrix/etc sound again so I'm just using this one. I can't play for shit anyway so it doesn't really matter.


If your dirt is after the wah it's going to be subtle. Try a distortion pedal in front or maybe try sticking it in your effects loop if you are using amp distortion.

cool man, my rat and pharaoh fuzz are in front of it, but in a band setting with the other guitarist I cant hear squat cause its so loud in a small room, and with the wah on I think possibly I get a volume drop if the pedal is on certain settings and... well I think I just like the idea of active no switch style so I can do a little wah whenever I want without the fusss :-) 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on December 17, 2015, 01:00:29 AM
Quote from: everdrone on December 17, 2015, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2015, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 01:02:04 PM
cool man, Im prolly gonna get one too! Like you said the tone is good for the downtuned heavy rock stuff.

I've actually been working on more '60s style E standard psych stuff lately but I don't want to mess around trying a zillion wahs in search of the Clapton/Hendrix/etc sound again so I'm just using this one. I can't play for shit anyway so it doesn't really matter.


If your dirt is after the wah it's going to be subtle. Try a distortion pedal in front or maybe try sticking it in your effects loop if you are using amp distortion.

cool man, my rat and pharaoh fuzz are in front of it, but in a band setting with the other guitarist I cant hear squat cause its so loud in a small room, and with the wah on I think possibly I get a volume drop if the pedal is on certain settings and... well I think I just like the idea of active no switch style so I can do a little wah whenever I want without the fusss :-) 

Can you turn it's volume up? The treble part of the sweep should come through loud and clear.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 17, 2015, 02:38:59 AM
I forget how I set the Weeping Demon to ease in more... it's been a while since I used it. I'll fire it up again, but right now I have it set for "normal" on the Range slider switch (not low) with the "Lo" knob turned almost all the way up. I test it from zero to 10% engaged, and try to make that sound as smooth as possible.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 17, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 17, 2015, 01:00:29 AM
Quote from: everdrone on December 17, 2015, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2015, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 01:02:04 PM
cool man, Im prolly gonna get one too! Like you said the tone is good for the downtuned heavy rock stuff.

I've actually been working on more '60s style E standard psych stuff lately but I don't want to mess around trying a zillion wahs in search of the Clapton/Hendrix/etc sound again so I'm just using this one. I can't play for shit anyway so it doesn't really matter.


If your dirt is after the wah it's going to be subtle. Try a distortion pedal in front or maybe try sticking it in your effects loop if you are using amp distortion.

cool man, my rat and pharaoh fuzz are in front of it, but in a band setting with the other guitarist I cant hear squat cause its so loud in a small room, and with the wah on I think possibly I get a volume drop if the pedal is on certain settings and... well I think I just like the idea of active no switch style so I can do a little wah whenever I want without the fusss :-) 

Can you turn it's volume up? The treble part of the sweep should come through loud and clear.

nope, no volume control.  I would like it if it was auto wah, I mean I notice it is on after a few seconds of pumping the wah pedal since then my ear can pick up on the treble part of the sweep.  but ya I just really want the weeping demon now, thanks for the heads up, cheers :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on December 27, 2015, 01:23:31 AM
I just debuted my epic 20 minute song, "Jibb's Bolero" for my friends from NC. I also played my whole Christmas set and the songs i'm working on for our much revered HS band director, uncle Kenny. they really liked it, so maybe I video it.

uncle Kenny (ken mehalko), is mr music of strongstucky now and runs all the community music events. 
my buddy and I and my other best friend with the trombone all graduated together, and we are still terrorizing the countryside

the really awesome part was that I want nervous at all. I was 100% having fun with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on December 27, 2015, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: everdrone on December 17, 2015, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 17, 2015, 01:00:29 AM
Quote from: everdrone on December 17, 2015, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on December 16, 2015, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: everdrone on December 16, 2015, 01:02:04 PM
cool man, Im prolly gonna get one too! Like you said the tone is good for the downtuned heavy rock stuff.

I've actually been working on more '60s style E standard psych stuff lately but I don't want to mess around trying a zillion wahs in search of the Clapton/Hendrix/etc sound again so I'm just using this one. I can't play for shit anyway so it doesn't really matter.


If your dirt is after the wah it's going to be subtle. Try a distortion pedal in front or maybe try sticking it in your effects loop if you are using amp distortion.

cool man, my rat and pharaoh fuzz are in front of it, but in a band setting with the other guitarist I cant hear squat cause its so loud in a small room, and with the wah on I think possibly I get a volume drop if the pedal is on certain settings and... well I think I just like the idea of active no switch style so I can do a little wah whenever I want without the fusss :-) 

Can you turn it's volume up? The treble part of the sweep should come through loud and clear.

nope, no volume control.  I would like it if it was auto wah, I mean I notice it is on after a few seconds of pumping the wah pedal since then my ear can pick up on the treble part of the sweep.  but ya I just really want the weeping demon now, thanks for the heads up, cheers :)

Talk to Joe Gagan, he can either build you a wah or fix your wah to do anything you need, he is a nice guy and will give you the time and talk you through this.

https://www.youtube.com/user/joegagan?app=desktop&persist_app=1
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 28, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
Brad Davis (Creepy Fingers) is building wahs now


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 28, 2015, 11:21:11 AM
Ocean of Stars bassist is swinging by this afternoon to finalize the bass line for the single we're recording.

There are some variations in the kick/snare that'll be locked in, and maybe a few other minor tweaks.

Can hopefully track soon, bass is the final piece and eager to get this mixed!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 31, 2015, 08:42:49 AM
Ok pre-pro bass is done tho the days had to be switched.

Forgot Deann Rene band had moved rehearsal from Tuesday to Monday at same time. So was able to reschedule with Melanie for Tuesday. DR rehearsal went great. Then spent about 3 hours going through the Ocean of Stars song section by section and it sounds great. Now to schedule studio time to knock it out and begin mixing.

Stoked!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on December 31, 2015, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: Danny G on December 28, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
Brad Davis (Creepy Fingers) is building wahs now


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He built me a custom fixed wah pedal years ago that I really love.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 02, 2016, 12:19:52 AM
I guess the theme of this post is "Boogie Woogie is a really cool piano style"

so , during the holidays "Nutrocker" got played a few times.  That song kicks ass and I was curious as to where it came from. They only play the Trans Siberian version now.

It turns out that a totally awesome boogie-woogie dude, Kim Fowler, arranged the nutcracker suite theme into awesome boogie woogie.
he did flight of the bumble bee into bumble boogie all around 1962.  It's on an ELP LP that I have. I never thought anything more than it was something keith emerson cooked up like his other western honky-tonk sounding compositions

I can't help wondering if JoAnn Castle, who was a 21yr hotty piano phenom and he were like pals or w/e in that circle in that day...something else to look in to.

so here is the original. I dig how this guy rolls.

B. Bumble and the Stingers  heh awesome name.


SO, you bet i'm going to learn this. I have found page 1 and page 4 of the original sheet music haha and I am scoping this dude out so I should be able to figure out the middle from his clean video

the really fun[ie mind bender] part is the boogie woogie bass with the slow melody being chorded on top....I assume it will take a month or two to get that, but the rest is deceptively easy


here is JoAnn Castle from like 1960. I was hypnotized by her piano playing, and Liberace's also when I was really little even. then I found out he was a fag.  but then it made sense why he dressed that way, and why he died that way....what a waste.

anyway she rules. total phenom. every video rules

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 02, 2016, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: RacerX on December 31, 2015, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: Danny G on December 28, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
Brad Davis (Creepy Fingers) is building wahs now


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He built me a custom fixed wah pedal years ago that I really love.

Don't fix it if it 'aint broken.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 02, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 02, 2016, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: RacerX on December 31, 2015, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: Danny G on December 28, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
Brad Davis (Creepy Fingers) is building wahs now


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He built me a custom fixed wah pedal years ago that I really love.

Don't fix it if it 'aint broken.

Speaking of DFiiiAB, I'm still in love with my old Hendrix Crybaby.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 02, 2016, 10:21:27 PM
I have something even more scarce than my original Dunlop jimi Hendrix wah from maybe 1990ish


wait for it.....







the original box it came in.

that was the lentine's music store era.   I got my HM-2 and that pedal and the first run alesis sr-15 drum machine and boss GM synth module all from there, plus 2 awesome reader's digest piano books. and maybe the Yamaha 4-track cassette too....  cakewalk version 1.0 that ran on DOS 4.0 or higher, all text mode graphics using ASCII characters, but it worked...

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regarding classical music: The main reason i would not want to be in a classical orchestra is that those are 100% cover bands.  that whole thought of doing nothing but learning someone else's art sounds deathly boring. like being condemned to learning kiss and toto covers for the rest of your life

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free bandname :     Analog Skywalker


edit: this time i got the HM-2 right, vs mt-2 heh, but i needed to say crybaby not jimi Hendrix. i have a straight original crybaby, nothing to do with jimi

it's a GCB-95.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 02, 2016, 10:43:29 PM
jib, not to get technical but there are modern composers who write original compositions for orchestras currently.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 02, 2016, 11:25:14 PM
no arguments there ^.

i was thinking more from the perspective of the person sitting there with his/her French horn or clarinet or something and getting ANOTHER slab of sheet music to conquer.
learning songs to develop skill or because you like the song and want to play it too is a lot of work, but it is highly motivated.

that learning new strange piece after piece like a job is what i was bumming about.

and , of course there are people who love playing and getting something new to learn is part of their fun, and those are the people in the orchestras i guess heh.

everyone here is more into floating their own boat, which is great, and way more unique things happen.
and generally, if people around here cover something, they do it their way.

you are testimony with your really fun version of paperback writer.  and i know you were highly motivated to give that one the royal treatment heh.

i believe i felt the same thing when i heard "boot scootin boogie" i wanted to rage and destroy anything within my reach.  i almost lost my shit when those goobers said "blackjack, Cadillac, baby meet me out back.." just no.
i got them back tho.  my version will go viral and smother the sad original(which IMO, they stole their shit from the older sing "The Stroll")
"The Cloven Hoof Boogie"

more importantly, this gives us an avenue to slag other art we don't really like by turning it into something we do like

edit: i got a little xmas present green. Its name is Kandy. it must be heavy sativa because this is some righteous head tripping happening. i highly(nyuk nyuk) recommend this particular flavor
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 03, 2016, 09:46:05 PM
There is also an enormous thrill of being part of a group of 100+ musicians playing highly sophisticated music. Covers or not.  Not that i have done it, but I have mixed world class orchestras and I am absolutely blown away by the collective technique, cohesiveness and mastery of dynamics.  It really puts you on the edge of your seat at times.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 03, 2016, 10:00:57 PM
one of my most favorite and heaviest records in my collection is this..
(http://cdn.discogs.com/TRhBSPYWbDAfymU9IseI85gCStI=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb()/discogs-images/R-3693940-1366882278-3452.jpeg.jpg)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 04, 2016, 06:17:18 PM
Any of you ever record a full length album to a click track and then find a drummer to record on it?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 04, 2016, 06:55:17 PM
Not even once.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on January 04, 2016, 07:31:17 PM


   Twice ?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 04, 2016, 08:21:19 PM
 :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on January 04, 2016, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 04, 2016, 06:17:18 PM
Any of you ever record a full length album to a click track and then find a drummer to record on it?

I've been the studio drummer for this situation once, for an industrial band. Some of that shit was barely even possible to play as a human with only four limbs. But I gave it my best shot. It was fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on January 04, 2016, 08:39:14 PM
Sure, blame it on a shortage of limbs!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 04, 2016, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: agent of change on January 04, 2016, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 04, 2016, 06:17:18 PM
Any of you ever record a full length album to a click track and then find a drummer to record on it?

I've been the studio drummer for this situation once, for an industrial band. Some of that shit was barely even possible to play as a human with only four limbs. But I gave it my best shot. It was fun.

My shit is very easy to play along to. No odd timings and generally very few tempo changes other than half or double speed changes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 04, 2016, 09:24:49 PM

Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 04, 2016, 06:17:18 PM
Any of you ever record a full length album to a click track and then find a drummer to record on it?

I do that with my own music. Allows me to figure out exactly what kick/snare patterns work best for which parts.

Also the Ocean of Stars EP was recorded this way so the drummer could play to existing reference tracks.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 05, 2016, 01:18:15 AM
Quote from: Danny G on January 04, 2016, 09:24:49 PM

Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 04, 2016, 06:17:18 PM
Any of you ever record a full length album to a click track and then find a drummer to record on it?

I do that with my own music. Allows me to figure out exactly what kick/snare patterns work best for which parts.

Also the Ocean of Stars EP was recorded this way so the drummer could play to existing reference tracks.


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#srs useful info 4 me#
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 05, 2016, 01:30:20 AM
Quote from: Submarine on January 03, 2016, 09:46:05 PM
There is also an enormous thrill of being part of a group of 100+ musicians playing highly sophisticated music. Covers or not.  Not that i have done it, but I have mixed world class orchestras and I am absolutely blown away by the collective technique, cohesiveness and mastery of dynamics.  It really puts you on the edge of your seat at times.

so subby, heh, what part of that cohesive orchestra blew you away the most?

for as much as I enjoy the orchestra, I actually have not taken advantage of severance hall and the clevo orch.  maybe I have been there 3 times my whole life? I r dum
BUT, when I was there, the part that blew me away each time was watching the violin/viola sections and hearing that incredibly rich buzz of w/e 3 dozen people playing the same thing, yet not exactly the same thing. and the bows are hypnotic.
it is jaw dropping and the French horns too. what a sound... anyway, I cant fault anyone who is one of those symphony addicts. live is the only way to hear that like that.

I kind of think being in the band and being assaulted by an orchestra operated by a bunch of fuck-off HS kids every day kind of took the shine off that scene for me.
We actually were chasing after guys like Maynard Fergusen and Chase(RIP what a waste) like the big prog jazz horns more in HS and that kind of set my future bias I guess.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 05, 2016, 12:15:56 PM
Quote from: jibberish on January 05, 2016, 01:30:20 AM
so subby, heh, what part of that cohesive orchestra blew you away the most?

for as much as I enjoy the orchestra, I actually have not taken advantage of severance hall and the clevo orch.  maybe I have been there 3 times my whole life? I r dum
BUT, when I was there, the part that blew me away each time was watching the violin/viola sections and hearing that incredibly rich buzz of w/e 3 dozen people playing the same thing, yet not exactly the same thing. and the bows are hypnotic.
it is jaw dropping and the French horns too. what a sound... anyway, I cant fault anyone who is one of those symphony addicts. live is the only way to hear that like that.

I kind of think being in the band and being assaulted by an orchestra operated by a bunch of fuck-off HS kids every day kind of took the shine off that scene for me.
We actually were chasing after guys like Maynard Fergusen and Chase(RIP what a waste) like the big prog jazz horns more in HS and that kind of set my future bias I guess.


Getting a 4 or 5 piece band to play something tight is an accomplishment.  To get 100+ to play something tight amplifies that feeling.  And yeah, hearing a string section all playing the same thing just makes the sound richer.  I like classical stuff but I'm not an expert by any stretch, however because i get to work with these types once in a while its always a positive experience.  The Zoolander II soundtrack orchestral recordings are going on right now in the venue i work in.  Its awesome.  I'll post some pics later today.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 05, 2016, 02:17:13 PM
Orchestral Recording Setup for the Zoolander II score.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 05, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
Dude that's awesome


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 06, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Looking for a new drummer. Scored a headlining gig on New Years Eve, same place we paid £15 each to get in to year before, so bit of a score, and he took too much drugs to be able to play. Then complained our next gig is a shitty opening slot and we should push for better slots. Explained that you get better slots by not fucking up when you get given a great slot. The suggestion being in a band is not just something to fit around being off your face didn't sit well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on January 06, 2016, 07:11:53 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on January 06, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Looking for a new drummer. Scored a headlining gig on New Years Eve, same place we paid £15 each to get in to year before, so bit of a score, and he took too much drugs to be able to play. Then complained our next gig is a shitty opening slot and we should push for better slots. Explained that you get better slots by not fucking up when you get given a great slot. The suggestion being in a band is not just something to fit around being off your face didn't sit well.


HA!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 06, 2016, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on January 06, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Looking for a new drummer. Scored a headlining gig on New Years Eve, same place we paid £15 each to get in to year before, so bit of a score, and he took too much drugs to be able to play. Then complained our next gig is a shitty opening slot and we should push for better slots. Explained that you get better slots by not fucking up when you get given a great slot. The suggestion being in a band is not just something to fit around being off your face didn't sit well.

Sorry to hear it, but hopefully you'll get someone who can either hold his drugs or maintain an acceptable level of sobriety.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 06, 2016, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: RacerX on January 06, 2016, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on January 06, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Looking for a new drummer. Scored a headlining gig on New Years Eve, same place we paid £15 each to get in to year before, so bit of a score, and he took too much drugs to be able to play. Then complained our next gig is a shitty opening slot and we should push for better slots. Explained that you get better slots by not fucking up when you get given a great slot. The suggestion being in a band is not just something to fit around being off your face didn't sit well.

Sorry to hear it, but hopefully you'll get someone who can either hold his drugs or maintain an acceptable level of sobriety.

Maybe an unpopular opinion but, "why be fucked up onstage?"  Isn't playing live a rush in and of itself?  I could understand taking a shot to calm nerves but that is about it.  It would seem that there are only a handful of folks who are truly good enough to play well when fucked up. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 06, 2016, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Submarine on January 06, 2016, 10:21:47 PM
Quote from: RacerX on January 06, 2016, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on January 06, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Looking for a new drummer. Scored a headlining gig on New Years Eve, same place we paid £15 each to get in to year before, so bit of a score, and he took too much drugs to be able to play. Then complained our next gig is a shitty opening slot and we should push for better slots. Explained that you get better slots by not fucking up when you get given a great slot. The suggestion being in a band is not just something to fit around being off your face didn't sit well.

Sorry to hear it, but hopefully you'll get someone who can either hold his drugs or maintain an acceptable level of sobriety.


Maybe an unpopular opinion but, "why be fucked up onstage?"  Isn't playing live a rush in and of itself?  I could understand taking a shot to calm nerves but that is about it.  It would seem that there are only a handful of folks who are truly good enough to play well when fucked up.  

I think that generally you're right.

I would never take the stage too fucked up to play, but I generally have a toke & a beer before going on.

That said, there are definitely people who can hold their shit down while totally schnockered, as you point out.

Examples: pre-dryout Matt Pike, Brent Hinds from Mastodon.

I don't know how they do it, but they do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 07, 2016, 12:42:52 AM
 nurse a beer to dilute the endorphins a bit and that's it. 
I burn with the greatest human chimneys alive, but not before playing.
it seems that every now and then I trip out and get lost as to where I am in the song if I am baked

the one exception is a song that i composed and practiced superbaked. it is a 20+ minute mind-fuck exercise and i get as baked as possible to play it
i have already performed it for people a couple times and i was barely staying in my chair heh.
just climb into the song and leave the realm, like one of the pilots from dune and the mélange.
i just looked, holy crap, my eyes are half blue already...

anyway,
regarding partay boi there... there is a respect issue there as soon as you commit to being involved with other people. so he disrespected the whole rest of the band=not cool.
ask dave mustaine about what being a stu with the substance can cost you in the long run haha

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i am becoming more and more of a string-thru guitar fan.     the guitar is more connected to the strings and that little schecter can sustain all day, even with amp quiet.
  whatever passive emg's are on the schecter, they sound beautiful on tube amps plugged straight in

that tele is super rich too (humbuckers on it) and you can really get it singing. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 07, 2016, 12:50:50 AM
Quote from: RacerX on January 06, 2016, 10:29:33 PM
That said, there are definitely people who can hold their shit down while totally schnockered, as you point out.
Examples: pre-dryout Matt Pike, Brent Hinds from Mastodon.
I don't know how they do it, but they do.

I've seen Dimebag pull it off but I have never toured with any band that partied before the show.  On one specific tour a rather well known hard partying guitarist made sure we did not stay in hotels anywhere in Holland as he felt the temptation would be too great.  We stayed in Cologne and would drive into Holland, do the show and then drive back to Cologne.   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 07, 2016, 01:44:06 AM
His problem was he can't cope with being sober for any length of time, but also can't hold his drugs in the slightest. Dude could get incomprehensible and starting fights with randoms on 4 beers. Starting fights is really not ideal when he's 5'7" and 8 stone, its basically getting me into a fight. 2 joints and his eyes vanish - -.

Already booted a guitarist who couldn't play drunk, after fucking a couple of gigs, brought in a one before, one after, but he'd do the 'if someone else buys it, it doesn't count' thing and run around tapping people up for beers while I did all the loading. Last straw there was when he flaked on recording because he got drunk while we were putting drums and bass down. On one of the earlier live recordings on youtube you can hear him play a bunch of off key notes and get pulled from the PA.

Guitarist in Caricatures could play fine 6 pints in, but it would go wrong sometimes, if there were super strong ales available.

I just go for not drinking at all before playing, nail a pint of coke for sugar and caffeine before I go on, I got over the nerves thing at this point.

But after my shit's off the stage, I nail 2 pints then deal with load out stuff, then go on the fuck myself up mission. got to damp down the gig buzz as won't sleep.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 07, 2016, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: jibberish on January 07, 2016, 12:42:52 AM
I burn with the greatest human chimneys alive

Best thing I've read all day. ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 07, 2016, 04:45:59 PM
I never get fucked up before I play. I mean I have in the past but as a rule I don't. ill have a beer or 2 but I save it until we are done. I never play stoned, my mind wanders too hard. cant focus.

I posted this in the tech help thread, but ill put it here too..

help needed. as you guys know, im pretty clueless when it comes to electronics/electric stuff, among other things.

heres the issue. i have a stock fender jazz bass with one mod. i had both pick ups wired together so the controls work like a p bass. one tone and one volume. recently ive noticed that at any volume [the louder i turn it up, the more pronounced it gets], the bass has a terrible hum/static issue with the tone setting rolled to the full treble side [which is where i play]. if i roll to the full bass side of the knob the hum/static goes away. i also noticed a lot of static/crackling when i turn the tone knob. is that pot fucked or maybe something else?

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 07, 2016, 09:15:44 PM
hey mortay, sounds like maybe some aftermarket soldering went cold or is falling apart. possibly ground wires soldered to pot cases since those are a harder joint to make than std wiring.

when you turn a pot and it makes noise this means the wiper is not cleanly maintaining contact with the resistance wire windings.
oxidation or maybe micro dust or something.
old stereos always get noisy pots or sections cut out = very irritating
you can try pot cleaner spray and work the knob (l ron can show u if u r not sure how to REALLY work a nob)   (#TEAM*BOLT#)
or if the axe is older, just replace the pot because it may be wearing out and losing tolerance = noisy forevermore

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so, due to the song I play where I have to get baked into the 6th dimension, I ordered a new "piano bench"
I ordered it from Recaro. it will have side-G force wings and a full racing harness. maybe I can stay in my chair the whole song from now on.

(http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-11/13/17/enhanced/webdr11/enhanced-8895-1415918852-4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 07, 2016, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 07, 2016, 04:45:59 PM
heres the issue. i have a stock fender jazz bass with one mod. i had both pick ups wired together so the controls work like a p bass. one tone and one volume. recently ive noticed that at any volume [the louder i turn it up, the more pronounced it gets], the bass has a terrible hum/static issue with the tone setting rolled to the full treble side [which is where i play]. if i roll to the full bass side of the knob the hum/static goes away. i also noticed a lot of static/crackling when i turn the tone knob. is that pot fucked or maybe something else?

thanks in advance.

There are various ways to wire two pickups together, the two should be humbucking if done right, but might not be wired like that, and both on full will always give you a mid scoop somewhere. Whe  you say bass side/treble side, do you mean jsut tone control positions or do you have some sort of fun wiring to mix between pickups?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 07, 2016, 10:56:29 PM
no, as far as i know both J pick ups are wired to work together and function as as one pick up, like a P bass. with one volume and one tone knob controlling both pups.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 15, 2016, 01:29:27 AM
I got the HM-2 going.  The on-off switch under the stomp plate was sticky from ancient dirt and was stuck off. it is a little latching switch
this thing does not like 9v batteries any longer, but runs fine on the 9v supply, oh well good enough there.
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the next thing I want to do is make a direct "true bypass" device external to the pedal.
since the HM-2 is using a power supply, the input can stay plugged in.

I am imagining the function to be like 2 A-B boxes back-to-back.
let's say have A1 go right over to A2. then have B1 go to the non-true-bypass pedal and back out to  B2

you would have to switch both A-B boxes together from A to B.  

In box form, there would be only 4 1/4" jacks since the A1->A2 connection would be direct wired inside the box. so you would have:

Main In and Main Out, then Pedal In and Pedal Out. there would be 1 DP4T switch to move all 4 lines at once.
seems good on paper. anyone see any obvious traps aside from needing to pay attention to shielding and grounding to keep the signal as clean as possible

or are these for sale for $19.95 somewhere and it isn't even worth dicking around with at that price?

does anyone see the need to be able to switch the A-B AND turn the pedal on/off simultaneously...I kind of do..heh.....

that would require thinking out one further step. this is why all fucking up should be done on paper. get shit ironed out eventually
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 15, 2016, 12:22:39 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160115/1bb13796ba5e34936da0e6262c6a5ad8.jpg)

Bass is done for the Ocean of Stars single!

Now to finalize the mix and get it mastered. And then get it out there and hopefully generate some booking interests.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on January 15, 2016, 01:41:02 PM
Mass Driver did an interview and had a mention about our show on Saturday.

When I saw the A team van I lost my shit

http://www.wbir.com/life/top-5-music-acts-to-see-in-knox-this-weekend/15172946

http://knoxvillemusicwarehouse.com/blog/2016/1/13/mass-driver#.VpfLC5MrIcg=


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 15, 2016, 06:12:46 PM
Played my friend's Made In Japan floyd equipped Ibanez RG today and it lacks chug and palm muting is harder/weird. Meh.

Trad bridges for the win.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 15, 2016, 08:14:57 PM
you mass drivers are pretty fun.  your interviewer is a dweeb, but nice...

ok, so I have been basically describing a "loop effects switcher"
but where and when do you kick in the looper to engage the vintage pedal?
do you just leave the pedal on and use the looper stomp?

I keep thinking about disengaging the true bypass and simultaneously engaging the effect's circuit, but I guess if the effect just stayed on this issue is solved.
I believe the problem is solved: just leave the vintage effect turned on.

ok, off to steal a loop-switcher circuit....

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 15, 2016, 11:41:32 PM
Trying to build community in an area that just is so resistant.  I hear complaints about not having a more unified artistic scene but it feels like many are content with their ipad/netflix/on demand lifestyle.   I think I live at the consumptive end of the creative process.     I always refer to the phrase "be the change you wish to see".  Some days it feels futile.  I need a new approach.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 16, 2016, 02:36:21 AM
^go herd cats, way easier heh.

so, the battery connector in the HM-2 has some of that blue crystally crap on it, so I cleaned that off and it works like a champ now.
that thing is about 30 years old. crazy. and it just needed a good going over.

FWIW, if anyone gets one of these, they are so old school that the AC adapter is really an AC adapter as in 9v AC.
you would have to bypass the rectifier circuitry to use a regular DC supply or maybe splice in to where the battery is...some kind of mod...
I steal one of my old school adapters from another module if I can't find a battery or for testing.

the bonus is that you don't have to worry about whether the center pin is + or - haha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 16, 2016, 06:34:02 AM
Splicing in to the battery, or jsut putting a socket on a battery snap is probably best way, if its 9v AC in, it gives more than 9v rectified, so have to find where the voltage is stepped down/regulated from there, or possibly have a sound change from running at different voltage.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 16, 2016, 07:59:10 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on January 16, 2016, 06:34:02 AM
Splicing in to the battery, or jsut putting a socket on a battery snap is probably best way,

that's it!  the super clean, super EZ2 use idea.   and for some reason I have a half dozen virgin snappers just waiting for the hot tip heh.
just now scavenged a socket from some old powered PC speaker rig

IOU beers

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does anyone ever get the suspicion that the metal mic stand is part of midrange mic howling problems when shit gets loud?

also, danny, tree branches, I believe, are the future of ghetto mic stands. heh.

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bet with your brains , not with your heart. thank you tom for making me a nervous wreck at the end there and almost not beating the spot.
fucker. that's ok. Me=me+$200 heh fuckin A. 1/2 of a used synthesizer..combined with the $200 I didn't lose ...wonder which one I should get?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 17, 2016, 02:29:58 AM
a black SC-550

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epiphone-SCROLL-70s-Guitar-Black-Metal-Gibson-/311499952568?hash=item4886d811b8:g:YfYAAOSwHQ9WZEDe

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YfYAAOSwHQ9WZEDe/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on January 17, 2016, 10:01:49 AM
has black scroll been offered as a potential band name yet?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 17, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
I like that. Might be doing a name change on one of my 'projects'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 17, 2016, 04:57:28 PM
especially if you played nothing but scrolls....

.................................................

random band names heh:

killer beat keepers

9mm loogie

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I am encouraged by the nice cleanup and solid plan to start using my HM-2 again.
use the HM-2 just using the crazy tone section to feed the super pharaoh should give me some unique luscious sounds

the schematic is WAAAAAY too complex for a distortion box.  they tried to use every trick in the book.
take a look at this link to see what those insane roland engineers kludged up. the power section is a nightmare alone. they combine ac with dc from the battery
lots of zener and rectifier diodes all over to deal with that. the tones aren't just old school stacks, they each have their own op amp, and so on.
good luck stealing this circuit.    there is more description at the top of that schematic page

http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/s/hm2-heavy-metal.php

anyway I am encouraged to drag the Dunlop wah out and go over it. my son had it forever and I got used to not using it. I think it squeaks and sucks up batteries like a thirsty camel sucks up water. he registered some beef about it, but it's been a while..i will find out heh.

I may actually have a halfway respectable pedal board here when the smoke clears:

some combo of crybaby/HM-2/pharoah supreme-->deja-vibe-->malekko delay
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 18, 2016, 12:49:08 PM
Was playing through the axes on the holiday & snapped that I didn't have a single guitar in standard tuning.

Now I have retuned my OM and am revisiting the songs of my youth. Think I'm gonna leave it this way for awhile.

Looks like I'm gonna have to tighten the truss rod a bit, though—she's not set up right for that much tension.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 18, 2016, 04:55:36 PM
What tunings were you using?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 18, 2016, 05:06:16 PM
That guitar was set up for DADGAD, but my 12-string acoustic is also in that tuning, so no loss. The SANDIA MAN material is in drop C, and I've got another electric set up for slide in open E, and my hollow body electric and my resonator in open G.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 18, 2016, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 17, 2016, 02:29:58 AM
a black SC-550

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epiphone-SCROLL-70s-Guitar-Black-Metal-Gibson-/311499952568?hash=item4886d811b8:g:YfYAAOSwHQ9WZEDe

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YfYAAOSwHQ9WZEDe/s-l1600.jpg)

I keep looking at this, how do they sound? Do they weigh a lot?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 18, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on January 18, 2016, 06:49:14 PM
I keep looking at this, how do they sound? Do they weigh a lot?

The 450 and 550 are maple and I think I remember reading that they are quite heavy. The 350 is mahogany and is fairly weighty.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on January 18, 2016, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: RacerX on January 18, 2016, 05:06:16 PM
That guitar was set up for DADGAD, but my 12-string acoustic is also in that tuning, so no loss. The SANDIA MAN material is in drop C, and I've got another electric set up for slide in open E, and my hollow body electric and my resonator in open G.

DADGAD is a lot of fun.  I also use the "Jimmy Page" tuning CACGCE
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 18, 2016, 09:56:50 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 18, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on January 18, 2016, 06:49:14 PM
I keep looking at this, how do they sound? Do they weigh a lot?

The 450 and 550 are maple and I think I remember reading that they are quite heavy. The 350 is mahogany and is fairly weighty.

Well thats no good for me(bad back) at list for a gigging guitar, but I bet that mahogany one has great tone...im going to be on the look out for one anyway for a home/studio player

thanks for the info!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on January 18, 2016, 10:03:27 PM
spook. have you ever played a Hagstrom ultra swede?

the thing is like a toy small body les paul. very comfortable to play and it even has coil taps for lots of different sounds

it isn't as rich as an LP, no bs there, but it is very precise to play and sounds nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 19, 2016, 08:44:26 AM
Quote from: Submarine on January 18, 2016, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: RacerX on January 18, 2016, 05:06:16 PM
That guitar was set up for DADGAD, but my 12-string acoustic is also in that tuning, so no loss. The SANDIA MAN material is in drop C, and I've got another electric set up for slide in open E, and my hollow body electric and my resonator in open G.

DADGAD is a lot of fun.  I also use the "Jimmy Page" tuning CACGCE

It's hard not to sound pretty in DADGAD—very ornate tuning.

Another one I like to use occasionally is CGCGCD.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 19, 2016, 11:38:39 PM
Quote from: jibberish on January 18, 2016, 10:03:27 PM
spook. have you ever played a Hagstrom ultra swede?

the thing is like a toy small body les paul. very comfortable to play and it even has coil taps for lots of different sounds

it isn't as rich as an LP, no bs there, but it is very precise to play and sounds nice.

Ive not got to play one yet but its for sure on my list!

Thanks
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Omlet on January 21, 2016, 09:22:54 PM
No time to record a new black metal album. I'm almost done with creation of 2 hours of ambient music for the cosmetics shop in Dubai but still it consumes all my creativity...

(it was rather long break...)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 22, 2016, 12:51:50 AM
im not a big fan of digital releases being given the same status as analog physical copies of releases. am i on point or has time passed me by?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 22, 2016, 03:39:09 AM
I concur.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 23, 2016, 11:18:35 PM
Playing a show next Saturday. The promoter is finally making an event page on Facebook right now... a week (less than a week) away. It's really annoying. 3 or 4 days ago he emailed me to say the lineup is all set, load-in times, etc. Hard enough to promote shows without waiting until the last week.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 25, 2016, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 23, 2016, 11:18:35 PM
Playing a show next Saturday. The promoter is finally making an event page on Facebook right now... a week (less than a week) away. It's really annoying. 3 or 4 days ago he emailed me to say the lineup is all set, load-in times, etc. Hard enough to promote shows without waiting until the last week.


should have made the page yourself. No such thing as too much promotion.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 25, 2016, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: mortlock on January 25, 2016, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 23, 2016, 11:18:35 PM
Playing a show next Saturday. The promoter is finally making an event page on Facebook right now... a week (less than a week) away. It's really annoying. 3 or 4 days ago he emailed me to say the lineup is all set, load-in times, etc. Hard enough to promote shows without waiting until the last week.


should have made the page yourself. No such thing as too much promotion.

Always do your own promotion.  Flyers, hand bills, internet.  If you live close enough to the venue make one of those little folding A frame sighns and put that out in fron of the club for a werk so all the drive by and foot trafgic will see it...many times ive found a good show this way.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 25, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
I didn't even know who the other performers were, until a couple days ago. When it seemed like he wasn't getting it done quickly, I offered to make the FB page and he said he would do it. Took him like 2 days.

Whatever, just complaining.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on January 26, 2016, 02:25:39 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 25, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
I didn't even know who the other performers were, until a couple days ago. When it seemed like he wasn't getting it done quickly, I offered to make the FB page and he said he would do it. Took him like 2 days.

Whatever, just complaining.

Dont wait to find out, start promoting your band immediately.  The other bands can fend for themselves, you never want a low turnout because you held off promotion.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 26, 2016, 02:38:09 AM
Always promote yourselves.

The Ortiz Brothers (Amplified Heat) have started up their jam again on Mondays. I am happy about this.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 30, 2016, 02:22:34 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160130/616b4fc4e4dd69b605b55add71300e8a.jpg)

Finally got around to cutting a piece of wood in half to make a mandolin pedalboard


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 31, 2016, 07:49:40 PM
Dammit, think new drummer is flaking because band is more serious than he wants to be doing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on February 01, 2016, 12:53:52 AM
Between my three band the next few months are going to be super busy but I'm really looking forward to it. Mass Driver has two out of town shows back to back so I'm really pumped about that. The annual beerfest that my surf band is playing is coming up and that's always a hell of a good time. A d my new band (kind of 90's rock) has their first show in two weeks and the material is thankfully  beginning to sink into my brain.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on February 01, 2016, 01:00:04 PM
My new band played this weekend.  We are very black sabbath sounding.  I am really stoked!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 01, 2016, 05:58:22 PM
Quote from: bbottom on February 01, 2016, 12:53:52 AM
Between my three band the next few months are going to be super busy but I'm really looking forward to it. Mass Driver has two out of town shows back to back so I'm really pumped about that. The annual beerfest that my surf band is playing is coming up and that's always a hell of a good time. A d my new band (kind of 90's rock) has their first show in two weeks and the material is thankfully  beginning to sink into my brain.
that's awesome. I don't know how you do it. im struggling to play in 2 bands right now. I have no one to blame but myself. ill put that right into the 'be careful what you wish for' category.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2016, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: everdrone on February 01, 2016, 01:00:04 PM
My new band played this weekend.  We are very black sabbath sounding.  I am really stoked!

Nice!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2016, 06:58:34 PM
What is up with 2 knob 2 pup guitars? What if you for whatever reason want to have a louder pup in one position but don't want to lower it all the way down to balance the volume? I get it on cheap guitars but if you spend real money on an axe it should have a volume and a tone knob for each pup.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on February 01, 2016, 07:41:57 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2016, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: everdrone on February 01, 2016, 01:00:04 PM
My new band played this weekend.  We are very black sabbath sounding.  I am really stoked!

Nice!

thanks brutha, Ill see if I can get some video proof of this shizzle up soon...
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dangling Fury on February 01, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Mine and everdrone's offering from Saturday. First gig so have mercy, this was two weeks notice and we weren't anticipating playing out till march.
http://youtu.be/q180ztAK1u8


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 01, 2016, 11:22:48 PM

Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 01, 2016, 06:58:34 PM
What is up with 2 knob 2 pup guitars? What if you for whatever reason want to have a louder pup in one position but don't want to lower it all the way down to balance the volume? I get it on cheap guitars but if you spend real money on an axe it should have a volume and a tone knob for each pup.

Never understood that either.

And if there are two vol/one tone I'll route the tone knob so it only affects the neck pickup. I don't think I've used a tone knob for bridge position (on purpose)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 02, 2016, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: Dangling Fury on February 01, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Mine and everdrone's offering from Saturday. First gig so have mercy, this was two weeks notice and we weren't anticipating playing out till march.
http://youtu.be/q180ztAK1u8


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Good track, definitely Sabbathy. Are you guys recording?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dangling Fury on February 02, 2016, 07:40:52 AM

Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 02, 2016, 01:10:37 AM
Quote from: Dangling Fury on February 01, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Mine and everdrone's offering from Saturday. First gig so have mercy, this was two weeks notice and we weren't anticipating playing out till march.
http://youtu.be/q180ztAK1u8


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Good track, definitely Sabbathy. Are you guys recording?
Thanks
Nothing right now hopefully soon.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on February 02, 2016, 09:20:09 AM
Quote from: Dangling Fury on February 01, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Mine and everdrone's offering from Saturday. First gig so have mercy, this was two weeks notice and we weren't anticipating playing out till march.
http://youtu.be/q180ztAK1u8


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Groovy Sabbath!  Sounds like that was a fun night.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 02, 2016, 12:32:54 PM
Yeah, purty cool, guys—Sabbathy with Candlemassish vox!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on February 02, 2016, 06:19:44 PM
right on, thanks yall  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on February 02, 2016, 06:30:32 PM
Im the dude on the far right playing through the orange stack but yall prolly guessed that ;)

Dangling Fury is the bassist
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dangling Fury on February 03, 2016, 12:25:37 AM

Quote from: RacerX on February 02, 2016, 12:32:54 PM
Yeah, purty cool, guys—Sabbathy with Candlemassish vox!
appreciate that thanks man


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 03, 2016, 02:33:30 PM
yeah, the fury and droney show rocks.  I even watched a few more songs from your set.
the actual crowd pleaser was that "eyes of madness" song.  people dug that little stop and bass thing a'la Sabbath.
I did too heh.

**************************************************************

so the fulltone mini deja-vibe shows up today, great except...

the online lit said "9v supply internally doubled to 18v" cool.
the one I got expressly states "18v supply only", not so cool
and fulltone threw in a 9v supply heh, leaving realm of cool totally here.

i'm glad this was thru sweetwater. they don't fuck around taking care of issues and he had an 18v supply on the way from fulltone within 2 hrs.

so, at the end of the day, I wait a couple more days to hear what this beauty sounds like, but I get a free extra 9v supply...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 05, 2016, 02:22:34 PM
STOKED!!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/conan%20flyer_zpsb138hfw0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on February 05, 2016, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: jibberish on February 03, 2016, 02:33:30 PM
yeah, the fury and droney show rocks.  I even watched a few more songs from your set.
the actual crowd pleaser was that "eyes of madness" song.  people dug that little stop and bass thing a'la Sabbath.
I did too heh.

Cool thanks friend!  rock on!!!!    8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: fallen on February 07, 2016, 06:33:09 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 05, 2016, 02:22:34 PM
STOKED!!

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Racerx420/Music/conan%20flyer_zpsb138hfw0.jpg)


I might have to make a trip down to the USA for this since it doesn't seem like Conan is ever going to cross the border.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on February 07, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
Dude, fuck yes. I randomly missed Conan when they came through last May, had no idea they were here. Glad I get to rectify that. Y'all coming east at all?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2016, 12:36:44 AM
That super heavy (fake out) chord you do on guitar when you run out of frets and want to keep going lower? I love it but playing the low root note of it on bass is a problem if you don't have an extra low string. I was actually considering getting a long scale 5 string for F# (guitar is in C# standard) for recording but I remembered my EH Pitch Fork. 1 octave down with no blend and I'm good. You can set the stomp switch to work only when it is pressed rather than make it turn on. This thing rules.

Also sounds awesome on bass for easy fake power chords when you blend in a 5th up. With 2 of them, 2 rigs, and a splitter box a bass player could play roots notes and 1 octave up guitar range power chords at the same time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on February 08, 2016, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2016, 12:36:44 AM
That super heavy (fake out) chord you do on guitar when you run out of frets and want to keep going lower? I love it but playing the low root note of it on bass is a problem if you don't have an extra low string. I was actually considering getting a long scale 5 string for F# (guitar is in C# standard) for recording but I remembered my EH Pitch Fork. 1 octave down with no blend and I'm good. You can set the stomp switch to work only when it is pressed rather than make it turn on. This thing rules.

Also sounds awesome on bass for easy fake power chords when you blend in a 5th up. With 2 of them, 2 rigs, and a splitter box a bass player could play roots notes and 1 octave up guitar range power chords at the same time.


Cool ideas.  Got a soundclip?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 08, 2016, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: agent of change on February 07, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
Dude, fuck yes. I randomly missed Conan when they came through last May, had no idea they were here. Glad I get to rectify that. Y'all coming east at all?

We're just the local openers—Conan & Serial Hawk are the touring bands.

Here's the tour:

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1918628_1077671518951292_7965089566569185153_n.jpg?oh=b1ff5041682ba2aeb229d5faeaa38d0c&oe=572C5820)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 08, 2016, 10:25:57 AM

Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2016, 12:36:44 AM

Also sounds awesome on bass for easy fake power chords when you blend in a 5th up. With 2 of them, 2 rigs, and a splitter box a bass player could play roots notes and 1 octave up guitar range power chords at the same time.

Cool.

Amber from Full Stride was running her guitar rig and bass rig with an ABY. Dirty signal and effects went to guitar rig, clean signal to bass rig. I think she experimented with an octave pedal too briefly.

Sounded bad ass.


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 08, 2016, 10:29:53 AM
Still scrambling to complete the mix on the Ocean of Stars single.

It's close, but with all the layering it still needs some work.

Current version currently being mastered, as I have a radio interview taping Tuesday afternoon. But since it airs later, it may buy time to get the completed version to them beforehand.

But at the very least I'd like to go in there with something. However, if it sounds too "off" I may just talk about it as "in the works" and focus on promoting the EP.

I hate doing things half-assed (going to radio with an incomplete mix), but at the same time when you get opportunities you can't pass them up... :/


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 08, 2016, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Submarine on February 08, 2016, 08:27:46 AM
Cool ideas.  Got a soundclip?

I don't have one for the octave down on bass but so far I'm getting I think about the same clarity that a low F# string would produce or better. I only have 1 pitch fork so I haven't tried the dual rig bass and guitar octave up idea.

Quote from: Danny G on February 08, 2016, 10:25:57 AM
Cool.

Amber from Full Stride was running her guitar rig and bass rig with an ABY. Dirty signal and effects went to guitar rig, clean signal to bass rig. I think she experimented with an octave pedal too briefly.

Sounded bad ass.

I do this for Emerald Douglas with the bass side(also with dirt) during most single string parts. My baritone is tuned down to F# so it's kind of muddy using the octave down function on chords. At 0:26 you hear the bass rig come in low-

https://emeralddouglas.bandcamp.com/track/dwellers-in-sealed-crypts

At 3:00 there is a sort of lead part also with the pitchfork on 1 octave down. We had a lot of fun playing this stuff live even if it presumably bored a lot of people because there are no vocals.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on February 08, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 08, 2016, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: agent of change on February 07, 2016, 11:19:07 PM
Dude, fuck yes. I randomly missed Conan when they came through last May, had no idea they were here. Glad I get to rectify that. Y'all coming east at all?

We're just the local openers—Conan & Serial Hawk are the touring bands.

Here's the tour:

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1918628_1077671518951292_7965089566569185153_n.jpg?oh=b1ff5041682ba2aeb229d5faeaa38d0c&oe=572C5820)

Damn. I thought we were getting a Sandia Man tour. Well great spot to open, man, congrats. I will definitely be present for at least one of these SE shows.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 09, 2016, 07:00:53 AM
very cool racerx.   hope you slay.

they are playing in clevo at the same place dinger and that band we were all supposed to forget about, played at.
the venue isn't the coolest, but the hood it is in is super sleepy = super safe = very nice, especially after the show.

===========================================================================


I really respect people that kludge shit together and generally fuck around outside the box in the pursuit of more crazy audio.
I have thoroughly assimilated liquid's information, and I like it. I also like this amber person (sound the amber alert, "Psycho may be stalking you, be ever vigilant")
I don't know her but I know I like how she rolls.

I always mention jucifer basically for the same reasons. her only rules are the ones that suit her. 

Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 09, 2016, 11:07:48 AM
This is Amber from Southern Gun Culture

Got the initial master back.

Holy shitballs. Sounds HUGE. Even with the mix still in need of some tweaks this sounds great!

Went from looking at a drawing of a rhino to standing in front of an actual rhino.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 09, 2016, 07:47:37 PM
(Serial Hawk is good, so even if you're not into Conan for some reason, still worth checking that show out)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 10, 2016, 02:59:59 PM
reverb.com is a good place to shop for used gear  - maybe better than eBay? It keeps getting better, anyway.

ANYHOO, they have cheap 1/4" cables (10 feet for $7), mic cables and seatbelt straps (comfy). Also, guitar shipping boxes (3 for $36).

https://reverb.com/shop/merch (https://reverb.com/shop/merch)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 10, 2016, 07:16:22 PM
I have been curious about their guitar cables. Couple of my 20 footers are cutting out.

I'm happy that dunlop is now releasing pancake flat patch cables.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 10, 2016, 11:04:03 PM
If it's a brand Guitar Center sells, they will swap out cables at no cost with no receipt.

(you didn't hear that from me tho)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 11, 2016, 02:28:16 AM
I don't like the kind of cables with a fabric wrap (they look nice, but in my experience they kink up easier, plus the potential problem of soaking up beer). The plain black ones seem fine. I'm going to order a couple from Reverb, in the next couple days. They're affiliated with Chicago Music Exchange (store) BTW.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 11, 2016, 05:43:24 AM
good to know danny.  I usually grab most of my random doo-dads and cables from GC.
Had to run my dad up to the eye surgery clinic literally right down the street from GC yesterday. 
So when he went in under the knife I shot over to GC and grabbed a 3-pack of shorty pedal cables and a replacement whammy bar for my schecter.

the dude just looked at my model online and said "yup std  Floyd, here's what you want" and i'm GTG as of today.   also it probably helps when they ask my phone# and a whole list of prior purchases shows up.  "yeah it's me again JR the Strongstuckian" haha

I wish everyone could visit the North Olmsted GC. those people in there are all heroes. totally having fun. the vibe in there is better than any other retail store I have ever been in.

I need to surprise the gang with a couple random 6-packs of nice beer some evening just before closing...maybe I get locked in and we have a coke party heh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 11, 2016, 10:57:50 AM
An old problem has finally been resolved regarding PC recording.

When I had my winXP PC, I had the best audio card ever for my uses. It was a soundblaster Audigy platinum.
the platinum meant it had a whole faceplate that replaced a  5.25" floppy/CD drive space and added a boatload of I/O in addition to all the usual stuff on the back of an audio card.
I could connect, record, route, playback anything from anywhere any way. That was so slick.

Later when I moved into the 64bit realm, soundblaster only offered crap cards mostly highlighting 7.1 surround or wtf, and PC BIOS' are all waaaay too user friendly. They wont let you do certain more subtle tweaks in the routing. I got one anyway because it has quiet DAC's vs stock onboard soundcards.  I could not get the routing where I could record something I was playing generated by the PC itself, like to copy a soundcloud for a pile-on or snatch really anything I wanted cool tune, sound effect, etc

Now that I decided to upgrade to Win10(the prompts were getting very annoying), I am glad I did.  One of the first things I did was try out that little question box with all the answers "how can I record what I hear on the PC" and I was led to use an updated version of audacity and this driver called the WASABI LOOPBACK. haha.

I looked at the devices in control panel to see if anything puked, and it turns out win10 turned both soundcards on and no fights.
So I set up the new audacity with the wasabi loopback and fucked around with the record input selection and playback output selection.
Much silence, then I got the combo, but it was looping and piling up and feeding back heh. BUT it recorded shit from the PC so I knew I was close.
Anyway, I just picked any different output that couldn't play and it worked like a champ. BOOYAH!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 11, 2016, 11:12:12 AM
I've been kind of frustrated in my stacking with OD and fuzz options.

I get a good crunch rhythm sound with my OCD and decent mid tempo fuzz sound with my Pharoah or Ramshead Muff but stacking both just means too much compromise on one or the other.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 11, 2016, 11:32:26 AM
^getting my old HM-2 going, then running that thing as a tone shaper with a touch of distortion still there even with Dist all the way turned down,
into the pharaoh, I have noticed a problem too:  the second guy in the chain owns the sound too much.  I have a ton of pedal-order swapping to do because a wah is a tone shaper too and is it easy to just go straight to garbage sound with all those distortion and tone circuits at once. this is a whole new adventure

i'm starting to see why many multi-pedals have switches to reposition either effect as 1st or 2nd in the chain.  Any order the pedals are in makes for a whole new master circuit with its own unique "cool" and "garbage" settings.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on February 11, 2016, 02:15:35 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on February 11, 2016, 11:12:12 AM
I've been kind of frustrated in my stacking with OD and fuzz options.

I get a good crunch rhythm sound with my OCD and decent mid tempo fuzz sound with my Pharoah or Ramshead Muff but stacking both just means too much compromise on one or the other.


The Black Arts Sarcophagus is good for going from thick rhythm to full out nasty.  At least for me, your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on February 12, 2016, 01:02:08 AM
Hello?.....................I buy amplifier!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2016, 05:38:49 PM
whoa
(http://alembic.com/club/messages/449/9456.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2016, 05:40:16 PM
(http://media.fanaticguitars.com/2015/05/warwick-buzzard-je-signature-4-hp-nirvana-black-9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 12, 2016, 07:45:13 PM
That makes me miss John Entwistle.

Trying to decide between picking up one of those Superfuzz clones, the BYOC Leeds, or an octave fuzz like the Homebrew UFO.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 12, 2016, 10:07:24 PM
I have a UFO, it's really good. The basic fuzz sounds great, and the octave is more noticeable than other octave fuzzes (based on Youtube videos and A/B'ing it with a couple of other octave fuzzes). You can dial the octave in to taste, too. I would offer to sell mine, but the last owner changed the octave stomp to a momentary switch (octave is on, as long as you hold the switch down) which seemed like a good idea, but it turns out I'd rather leave the octave on all the time. If you can replace the switch or if you like the idea of a momentary octave, let me know.

The Zvex Octane is a great octave fuzz too, expensive, but heavy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2016, 10:57:56 PM
Tell me if this is correct- Gibson intentionally puts the fatter "50s" neck on their lower priced guitars knowing that some people don't like them and will spend considerably more money on 'standards'/etc that generally have a '60s/slim taper/medium neck.

Pretty much every $400/500/600 Gibson I see on the used market has the 50s neck. Blah.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 13, 2016, 02:57:33 AM
^my cortez LP is a 69 black beauty copy, and then I got that 2000 LP studio.
both have the fat necks. I never really focused on the difference until I horsed around with red giant's LP's.
They were both the '63 or w/e thin necks and both those guys swore they were faster.

I call bullshit.    They all play the same to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 13, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
I like the fatter necks just because of the way they feel as opposed to any increase/decrease in playability.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 13, 2016, 02:36:34 PM
^^I typo'd 59 up there, but I figure everyone gets it.

I can grab around the cortez  59 neck super comfy. in fact that will be my comfy guitar thread comfy guitar when I play some comfy song.

I was thinking back on the red giant days. i'm glad alex let me fuck around with the gear every now and then.
But what I was thinking about was how dead set they were on one specific pile of gear:  lp std -> big muff -> marshall stack. both of them had that same setup.
they had their thing going so I never said anything. I once asked them if they ever thought about getting a female singer. that did not go over well haha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2016, 02:54:15 PM
I find thin necks more comfortable and easier to fret although I probably have somewhat small hands for a 6 foot dude. I have no problem with big necks but I just don't like them as much.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 13, 2016, 03:06:58 PM
ok, so you have a comfort thing going on too.   That's the way I see it: which feels better.

I think the neck profile that messes me up the most is the wide thin profile, like shred guitars or 7 strings.

Have you ever horsed around with a musicman?   that thing feels like a toy. the neck feels like a piece of pipe it is so small and round, but wow can you grab onto that little guy.
I don't really like those guitars overall though, even if they weren't $1000+, which makes me really not like them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 13, 2016, 05:11:38 PM

Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 13, 2016, 02:54:15 PM
I find thin necks more comfortable and easier to fret although I probably have somewhat small hands for a 6 foot dude. I have no problem with big necks but I just don't like them as much.

My hands are pretty dainty too. Surprised I can even play bass haha


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 13, 2016, 06:48:00 PM
My first real guitar, gibson SG gothic, has a '59 neck carve. So learning on that and trying to play a jackson or Ibanez compound radius neck makes me feel like I am going to break it.

I am an average sized guy too with small purdy hands.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2016, 03:53:51 AM
Never messed with a musicman.

I partly misspoke about Gibsons and necks. They do/did make the '60s tribute Les Paul and '60s studio. Most of these seem to have P-90s but some don't. Some have the 'faded' finish and are more in line with those prices.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 14, 2016, 11:58:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2016, 10:57:56 PM
Tell me if this is correct- Gibson intentionally puts the fatter "50s" neck on their lower priced guitars knowing that some people don't like them and will spend considerably more money on 'standards'/etc that generally have a '60s/slim taper/medium neck.

Pretty much every $400/500/600 Gibson I see on the used market has the 50s neck. Blah.
A spokeshave can fix that. I'd offer that as a service if people weren't so "but omg its a new Gibson! Omg!"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on February 14, 2016, 09:33:33 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on February 12, 2016, 01:02:08 AM
Hello?.....................I buy amplifier!




ummm, I might be that guy, fuck, I am that guy.  I can't let go. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2016, 11:50:19 PM
http://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the-tone-garage/different-woods-different-tones

Interesting.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 14, 2016, 11:53:27 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on February 14, 2016, 11:58:51 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 12, 2016, 10:57:56 PM
Tell me if this is correct- Gibson intentionally puts the fatter "50s" neck on their lower priced guitars knowing that some people don't like them and will spend considerably more money on 'standards'/etc that generally have a '60s/slim taper/medium neck.

Pretty much every $400/500/600 Gibson I see on the used market has the 50s neck. Blah.
A spokeshave can fix that. I'd offer that as a service if people weren't so "but omg its a new Gibson! Omg!"

AKA "zero resale value"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 15, 2016, 03:28:11 AM
^well then, after the thin job, you may as well have him scallop the frets for you too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 15, 2016, 10:49:30 AM
He just scalloped the frets on a Squier for me :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 15, 2016, 10:21:06 PM
"That's what i'm talkin' 'bout"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 16, 2016, 01:07:53 AM
(http://www.seriouseats.com/images/2015/07/20150727-how-to-sear-scallop-recipe-09.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 16, 2016, 01:09:01 AM
pan seared
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 16, 2016, 03:57:30 AM
Squier 51:

(http://s22.postimg.org/5awby4za9/scallop2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 16, 2016, 10:58:29 AM
Tip:

When learning new songs, licks, chord shapes, etc., practice 'em right before bed to "tack" them into your brain; then, do a short review session in the AM to nail 'em in proper.

ymmv.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 17, 2016, 01:18:41 AM
^ yup
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 17, 2016, 02:37:52 AM
Could this partly explain weak lead tones?

stock Epi F/trem/wide spaced bridge pup
(camera wasn't 100% parallel, it's worse than it looks)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12742619_10208293781119436_1758510146444415688_n.jpg?oh=e35cfb80b3f0d0e50cbae91971a8b998&oe=572492AD)

'standard' spaced
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/10262143_10208293779959407_7882975333716543209_n.jpg?oh=933d6137c281edbb719310239ddc8b35&oe=576BD6D7)


Obviously I realize that the stock Epi pup is problematic(tone wise) but it's the spacing that I'm talking about.

Another example of liquidsmoke trying to reinvent the wheel or time to try blade pups?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on February 17, 2016, 07:11:40 AM
Can probably move it closer to the strings, see if that helps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 17, 2016, 09:09:38 AM
I had to reseat the neck pickup of my Paul Stanley Iceman as it was mounted wrong to the point where the pick guard didn't fit right.

Korean factory for you.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 17, 2016, 11:25:27 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on February 17, 2016, 07:11:40 AM
Can probably move it closer to the strings, see if that helps.

Tried that on the thin string sides and now the pups are cocked a little bit on that side which lines the poles up a little bit more and closes the distance too. I think the tone has improved and the volume sounds more even among the strings. Good tip, thank you. Case closed.

Also raised the low side action a bit on one of the guitars and palm muted chords now have more chunk and clarity. I get wanting low action but when it makes your guitar sound like a trash can, no. A friend of mine claims not to notice this on his guitars and to me they are pretty much unplayable. I'm baffled but whatever works for him, eh. He's 10 times better a player than I am so there is that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 17, 2016, 11:31:20 PM
Hey Gibson, make your adjustable zero fret nut more like this one-

http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Nuts_and_Saddles/ZerO_Glide_Nuts.html

(http://www.stewmac.com/product/images/19249/ZerO_Glide_Nuts.jpg)

An actual fret that is adjustable is appealing to me. I've had strings wear down/slice into nuts over the years.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on February 20, 2016, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 12, 2016, 10:07:24 PM
I have a UFO, it's really good. The basic fuzz sounds great, and the octave is more noticeable than other octave fuzzes (based on Youtube videos and A/B'ing it with a couple of other octave fuzzes). You can dial the octave in to taste, too. I would offer to sell mine, but the last owner changed the octave stomp to a momentary switch (octave is on, as long as you hold the switch down) which seemed like a good idea, but it turns out I'd rather leave the octave on all the time. If you can replace the switch or if you like the idea of a momentary octave, let me know.

The Zvex Octane is a great octave fuzz too, expensive, but heavy.

Thanks for the offer! I will definitely consider it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 21, 2016, 04:44:59 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 17, 2016, 11:31:20 PM
Hey Gibson, make your adjustable zero fret nut more like this one-

http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Nuts_and_Saddles/ZerO_Glide_Nuts.html

(http://www.stewmac.com/product/images/19249/ZerO_Glide_Nuts.jpg)

An actual fret that is adjustable is appealing to me. I've had strings wear down/slice into nuts over the years.

this is an awesome concept.  also the open won't sound like an open, just another fretted note.

also, yeah, a G-string slicing into a nut would take any dude out of his game pronto. can't have that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 23, 2016, 04:43:46 AM
sounds like a country song..

"Ahhh just broke the e on mah cortez,
and a g string sliced into mah nut
the sounds are pretty horrific
lahk a cello shoved up ______'s butt"


also provides generic fill in the blank name availability, like the chicken joke:

"Why did _______ cross the road? Because he couldn't get his dick out of the chicken.
everyone needs this one in their arsenal, i'm tellin' ya...
it has served me well ever since I heard it when I was working at a restaurant in like early 80's
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 25, 2016, 12:11:24 AM
The interview I did with the incomparable Laurie Gallardo of 98.9fm KUTX in Austin will air this Monday Feb 29 at 10pm CST. Will preview the new Ocean of Stars single "Great Divide"

Tune in online at www.kutx.org!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 25, 2016, 02:09:41 AM
Quote from: Danny G on February 25, 2016, 12:11:24 AM
The interview I did with the incomparable Laurie Gallardo of 98.9fm KUTX in Austin will air this Monday Feb 29 at 10pm CST. Will preview the new Ocean of Stars single "Great Divide"

Tune in online at www.kutx.org!


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that's great :).  so I was poking around that station's website(nice layout btw) and found this band called Casual Strangers.

they weave a serious psychtrance tapestry like hawkwind-floyd.  would that be a fit for OoS to do a show with??? these guys are cosmic

I played the "holocene Dream" song

https://www.facebook.com/CasualStrangers/videos/vb.293630384102424/753524611446330/?type=2&theater


oh yeah, danny, link some of your RPM challenge results into the gen discussion hobby thread and also a video of OoS.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 25, 2016, 06:05:23 AM
Sweet, I'll check them out. Thanks!

I didn't mean to set out to play instrumental music, it just kinda happened, so I've been finding myself at a loss as to who to try to play with haha

Re: Hobby thread, heading there now


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 25, 2016, 01:09:40 PM
that song was instrumental. that's what gave me the idea.
although both Floyd and hawkwind have vocals, in hindsight, I was referring to the music itself.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 25, 2016, 02:29:41 PM
\m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 26, 2016, 05:50:48 PM
my band just got rejected by a company we are having a cassette made with. they are making the tape, but they farm out the j-card to a local print shop. he told me he couldn't send them the artwork because its run my middle aged christain women and the art work of satanic naked chicks combined with the band name [unholy semen] might be too offensive for them and hurt his business relationship with them.

I just laughed and said ok. ill find someone else to print it. on some weird level I actually feel good about this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 27, 2016, 07:02:53 AM
dammit mortay, I keep looking at those scallops. damn those really REALLY look good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 27, 2016, 12:49:18 PM
I've just noticed a pattern of something I do occasionally. if there is a bunch of associated words like especially in a title or name, I sometimes grab the wrong one.
I have corrected quite a few that I have caught. I remember calling the ac/dc song thunder haha

then when I got my HM-2 switched with MT-2, everyone went apeshitstorm on me when i'm trying to explain that a MT-2 sounds great. haha

I just did it again "Rain on the Plow" I could have gone with blood on the scarecrow too I guess . ferfuckssake, I am working inside the song and I still do that shit.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 28, 2016, 09:19:42 PM
Picking up my bass again after taking a really long break, and thinking about switching to pick-style. I'm a decent fingerstyle player - I've been playing (off and on) since 1982. But it's been non-stop problems with my callouses (building them up, taking care of them, avoiding blisters, dealing with blisters when they inevitably come). Yes, I think it's possible to play everything fingerstyle that pick players can do (play fast, etc) -- if you're willing to dedicate the time to the instrument. But for people who are multi-instrumentalists (my goal now) I suspect it's easier to get good (good enough to play rock music) using a pick.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on February 28, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
I agree, I think it really is all about note selection, unless you are playing for a crowd of bassists and guitarists and slap-bass funkmasters
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on February 29, 2016, 04:44:03 AM
Do you know what is an automatic blister?

Too much smoke and alkeehaul and "they call me the breeze".

..because it never ends until fingers fail.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on February 29, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
Stopped in for strings and saw this weird little thing.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12800225_10208382145288485_1381839848935126175_n.jpg?oh=40f428e909993d853ec256c976c37fbc&oe=576C00AD)

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/8277_10208382145328486_3408485279667610960_n.jpg?oh=7c8c65608cf58b392f7d073529c1472d&oe=575888DC)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 29, 2016, 10:57:12 PM
where is that thing? i kind of want it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 01, 2016, 02:29:49 AM
Madison, WI

I kind of want it too but already have a small short scale bass. It looks cheap and junky but for a weird psychedelic band it could be the ticket.

I bet VOLVO would be willing to make you something better out of a guitar for pretty cheap.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 01, 2016, 06:27:22 AM

Quote from: liquidsmoke on February 29, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
Stopped in for strings and saw this weird little thing.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12800225_10208382145288485_1381839848935126175_n.jpg?oh=40f428e909993d853ec256c976c37fbc&oe=576C00AD)

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/8277_10208382145328486_3408485279667610960_n.jpg?oh=7c8c65608cf58b392f7d073529c1472d&oe=575888DC)

That thing probably sounds and plays terrible.

You bought it, right?!?


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 01, 2016, 08:45:39 PM
heh.

has anyone horsed around with a ukulele?  I don't give those a second look usually, but there is a chris cornell song on the radio that makes really good use of one.
I would rather try out a mandolin or a cello first, but who knows, GC seems to really be stocking a large variety of those now.

I saw a used anniversary tele at Bruno bros music store today. I touched it.   I covet it. 

I must admit, I still like playing keyboards best of all. I can play for 2+ hours and not even notice the time passing. I wonder when stoner rock is going to need more keyboards now that it needs more sax, jazz, and metal, heh. although, there is no playing and singing for me on keys.  that is for the guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 01, 2016, 08:51:31 PM
the only thing chris cornells songs should make good use of is a garbage can. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 01, 2016, 08:58:39 PM
heh.     stay with me here, it was about the ukulele.   otherwise I basically agree.

edit:  I am having a blast swiping songs from youtube or wherever, then putting them in reaper, playing them at half speed(with NO pitch correction) and then doing a live take to get the half speed track recorded.   drums sound building sized haha. voices, handclaps suck.   but instant downtuned feeling.

I lost it on mambo number 5. too fucking funny.  well I guess it is mambo number 2.5 now BWAHAHA
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2016, 12:01:23 AM
Quote from: Danny G on March 01, 2016, 06:27:22 AM
That thing probably sounds and plays terrible.

You bought it, right?!?

I did not. It's very easy to play but I didn't plug it in.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 02, 2016, 12:04:11 AM
at least you got to touch it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on March 02, 2016, 12:05:17 AM


   That's What She Said

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2016, 02:02:49 AM
I touched it good and it liked it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 04, 2016, 05:31:14 AM
as long as you didn't bust a   the nut, no harm no foul
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 04, 2016, 05:33:27 AM
mortay, I sense that in the future, you and I will play in an avante-jazz-noise band called "The Sun Ra Always Rises"

edit: reserve that name for your label.   watching those guys do their controlled spazzing really gets me fired up to jump in too.

too bad my older cousin lives in salt lake city. he is a true Hammond prodigy. damn is he good, except he stopped playing.
hard core jazz aficionado and player. pure old school Hammond.  what a waste. like my buddy's wife. a frickin concert level harpist.
she used to do afternoon shows in the big atriums downtown n shit. then she dropped it like it was hot.  zero further interest ever since..

...just too bad...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 04, 2016, 05:47:08 PM
jib, it would be awesome to make that happen.

there was a band in my town that pretty much was what you are talking about. they were called the blood and bone orchestra. I was friends with the guys in the band. they were so awesome. on a few occasions I got the call to sit in on bass when their bassist couldn't make it.

one of the gigs was in buffalo and I got the call the afternoon of the show, so I jumped at the chance. the sax player drove me out there. on the ride out we were talking, and I knew most of what they did was largely improvised, but I didn't know if they worked off a general theme or anything. so I asked him what we were going to do so I had a game plan in my head. he looked at me and said 'we got one rule in this band, we don't talk about we are going to play.' that was it.

we got to buffalo and unloaded our gear then we went outside and the rest of the band plus one of the other bands were circled up passing a joint around so we jumped in. I got high as fuck, then the sax player [who was like in his early 70s at the time which was massively inspirational to begin with, this was 2007] grabs me, pulls a joint out of his pocket and says, 'you want to smoke this?' so we did. I was super uber baked, we go in, i strapped on my bass. I play electric [their bassist played an upright]. we got set, the squawking started and we were off and soaring like motherfuckers. it was one of the best gigs of my life. 

unfortunately they are not around anymore, they were so fucking good. 
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 05, 2016, 10:51:44 AM
^^^Bad ass.

First Ocean of Stars rehearsal since our last gig in December. Felt good to knock the rust off, and sounded pretty damn good considering.

Room recordings don't sound as bad ass as I remember them being tho.

Note to self: check the intonation on my guitars. Not sure if it was me or the horn player that was a little off in places but I'll just start with assuming it's me haha

We have one gig for SXSW and we want to kick ass! Will also be cool that we're playing right before Eric Tessmer Band, whom I exited in 2013 to put Ocean of Stars together (I've still filled in on bass for them dozens of times since).

Family reunion!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 06, 2016, 04:58:28 AM
awesome tale from the road.   that is one killer rule. it demands absolute freedom.


my Mexican blackface tele shrunk and went out of tune. 4yr curse. one of the tailpiece pieces cant go back any further towards the neck but I got it back tuned to the octave ok.
if it shrinks any more I will have to do some kind of redrill and fill horseshit which I really don't want to do.

about that USB interface. i know this isn't bambi's 1st time in the woods. i always try to tell about the state of some piece of gear if i see a trend or w/e, but all that info is to use or not as one sees fit.


why doesn't anyone audition egnator tweaker 15's when checking out tiny terrors/dark terrors?  that thing can sound like a ton of different amps. i think they are about $400 new.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 06, 2016, 12:38:10 PM
Bleu Edmondson's new-ish bassist came into the picture using a Tiny Terror bass amp pushing his 6x10.

Sounded tits!

He has since gotten an Ashdown something or other which sounds good, but lacks some of the character of the TT


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on March 06, 2016, 06:30:47 PM
Bandmates are now cancelling practice more often than not. Tonight one has a headache and has to open the restaurant early in the morning, and the other wanted to watch the debate tonight. Seriously. I love these dudes so much, but am starting to look for other people to play with. GRRR...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 06, 2016, 07:27:16 PM
yeah, unfortunately that sounds like playing isn't very important to them.  It happens.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on March 06, 2016, 07:49:16 PM
I kinda do that. The guitar player in my band is super duper into it, but the drummer and I both have day jobs, hate bars and just wanna have fun. Dude wants to go on tour, and play big clubs and shit. I wanna play houses, in town, and chill...

We do get to open for Eyehategod though, so...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on March 06, 2016, 09:22:56 PM
that sucks, agent. wish i could help, but...time. already ain't got enough.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on March 07, 2016, 10:44:46 AM
Just add me to your band, combs! I'll play second drums, second bass, third vocals, or even first triangle.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on March 07, 2016, 02:37:59 PM
how many kazoos can you play at once?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on March 07, 2016, 06:11:29 PM
666
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 08, 2016, 05:51:10 PM
What do you guys do for rehearsal space in Asheville?  Garages? Basements?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on March 08, 2016, 06:34:29 PM
mostly storage spaces. one particular place is pretty open about being cool with bands. us lucky few get the climate-controlled ones. we used to have the other kind and holy fuck that sucked. currently sharing one space between two bands.

theoretically basements are cool too, but it depends on the neighbors.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 08, 2016, 08:08:18 PM
We did that once. It was a new addition to their facility.  We were the only tenants over there.

Then it flooded. There was a water mark on the kick drum about 3" up. Power amps that were on the floor were toast. A Carvin X100 took the whip too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on March 08, 2016, 09:00:40 PM
No disasters yet, but they do "forget" to turn on the a.c. in the summer, put toilet paper in the bathrooms at all, and they raised the rate without telling me. Fuckers. Used to be all good, no problems, and then another company took over and now there's a family living there "managing" the place, which mostly seems to mean standing around smoking, and drinking out of plastic cups.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: khoomeizhi on March 08, 2016, 09:17:41 PM
yeah, new owners kinda suck. they renamed it dumber, too. fwiw, there's no bathroom at all at our end - just the portapotty by the office. we're on top of the hill, so we probably won't flood.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 09, 2016, 05:31:14 PM
I have to really watch my hands better.  I was wrangling a big ash that finally fell over way in back and half crunched my hand between 2 of the larger pieces.
this got me thinking:   fucking either hand up would take me out of my game.

also, I was sort of scoping out the back for stuff to record outdoors or w/e and the highway is just too loud.  I would definitely have to go offsite to do any nice outdoor recording.
which is too bad, because the birds really are awesome sounding around here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 10, 2016, 04:46:32 AM
Next to being out of tune nothing fucks up my lead tone like fret buzz. Horrible. PLEK or nothing from now on. Fret jobs are expensive anyway, might as well have a German machine do it.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on March 10, 2016, 08:43:50 AM
Well, after more talking than playing at practice last night, the band is a month or two away from demise. We knew bassist was leaving for Portland at the end of the year, but now guitarist is moving in a different direction with life priorities. Have the sadz today. Been playing in bands with guitarist since 1989. Brings up all those questions: Will I be able to find the right players for the next project? Am I getting to the age where it's more toil, frustration and physical pain than it's worth?

???   :'(  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 10, 2016, 10:03:29 AM
You'll be fine. Plenty of toil and frustrations available doing things that suck way more than jamming music :)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on March 10, 2016, 10:55:57 AM
In over three decades I have had three main bands. There have been occasional, short-term side projects, one-offs and guest sittings, but those three have/are my main bands. The first two last almost a decade each. The current one has been at it for 13-14 years and counting.

Like yourself, aoc, the eminent (and sudden) demise sent my head spinning. I had all the same questions as you, even when I was in my 20's and 30's. My playing style--to me at least--was intricately woven into the abilities and personalities of my band mates. I was frightened and in despair. Yet like the same way deep love and bonding can happen, so can another project. I realize one could "advertise" and sometimes that can work. I have found re-connecting with past acquaintances have proved to be a better way. For me at least. Like love, a solid band can be fleeting. I feel so fortunate that the "chemistry"--both musically and personally--with my current bandmates is so solid and aligned. This band has lasted longer than any of my marriages or relationships and believe it or not, we have never had aa band fight or disagreement. We all have been in other bands before this one and realize who rare that is and how lucky we are.

I guess my point in that uninvited biography is for you to hang in there and never give up. One is never too old or too physically compromised to throw in the towel. The frustration, doubt and negative feelings are natural, but time is still on your side. You have a gift. A talent. A passion. And that will not go unanswered by the lifeforce.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 10, 2016, 01:49:30 PM
Great post, Black.



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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 10, 2016, 05:57:42 PM
Fired up now. Damn.

:-*
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 10, 2016, 05:58:51 PM
On the negative side, dude who owned Catalinbread pedals died at age 37, when his car was hit by a falling tree. RIP.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on March 10, 2016, 08:20:35 PM
Thanks Black. And SR peeps.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 11, 2016, 01:59:02 AM
Alright, let's skip the liquidsmoke you never learn blah blah blah. Just tell me what guitars have the heaviest thickest tones for low tuned metal. If they are under a grand that's all the better. If they have necks thinner than the '50s' Gibson neck that's also better. I need the most thunderous ground shaking sound because I'm an idiot. No baritones. Go.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on March 11, 2016, 02:01:19 AM
Quote from: agent of change on March 10, 2016, 08:43:50 AM
Well, after more talking than playing at practice last night, the band is a month or two away from demise. We knew bassist was leaving for Portland at the end of the year, but now guitarist is moving in a different direction with life priorities. Have the sadz today. Been playing in bands with guitarist since 1989. Brings up all those questions: Will I be able to find the right players for the next project? Am I getting to the age where it's more toil, frustration and physical pain than it's worth?

???   :'(  ???


This is my problem.... i get to be too good of friends with my band mates and all we do is shoot the shit and barley play.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 11, 2016, 03:00:56 AM
liquid, what guitars show up most in other way downtuned bands? maybe that would be a good starting point: a known performer.


also, I guess I owe everyone in the jamroom an apology for dragging horseshit in here with me in my wake.
no one minding their music business in here needs that drama crap from general. It is very disrespectful.
i'll take full responsibility for their behavior and assume it's also my responsibility not to agitate them into taking a shit in the wrong place again.

I guess since some of the children cant handle their shit, i'll just back off of general with the hopes they stay in general with the crap.
see how that works out.

seriously guys, sorry about that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 11, 2016, 04:48:07 AM
"When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary   [sound of needle across record horror-scratch style]  ..nm....

I reach for old Santana albums. I find peace in them. wow did he crank out a ton of albums in the 70's.
also I dig his whole "latin /drum/percussion" thing a lot. so that's where i'll be hiding when I need to let it be, let it be.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 11, 2016, 03:34:44 PM
Quote from: jibberish on March 11, 2016, 03:00:56 AM
liquid, what guitars show up most in other way downtuned bands? maybe that would be a good starting point: a known performer.

A full weight older Gibson LP is at the top of the list. Seeing studios for as low as $500. This is the duh answer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 12, 2016, 02:09:58 PM
Played my friend's '00 something faded LP studio last night, it's quite light, gotta be chambered. Going to look for a pre chambered studio with actual paint and the '60s/slim tapered neck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 13, 2016, 03:19:27 AM
I know, of the 3 LP models, one of them weighs a ton. 

Waaaay long ago before guitar center was here, I had all 3 models at sam ash and was just checking all 3 over, right next to each other.  the faded/weathered wtf studio series didn't exist at that time.

one of the original models weighed far more than the other 2, either the std or ?classic I forget the other more expensive one's model name.
studio is lighter

My cortez 59 black beauty copy is actually quite light, so it is chambered, but it sounds really nice.  they copied the LP exactly including gold plated hardware and all the same like grovers etc triple binding...piece of 40yr old art. check out some of those. I see them floating around occasionally. total steal for $200-$300

My 2000 wine red studio definitely is heavier than the cortez LP. it feels like a slab TBH, but I really don't know what's in there. but it isn't as heavy as the really heavy LP model

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 13, 2016, 04:22:48 AM
I did some digging and it sounds like Gibson has been doing the swiss cheese thing since the early '80s at least on some models. Part of it is supposedly due to them having a harder time getting lighter mahogany.

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/pippy59/gibson-weight-relief-bodies_zps6b6cdc7b.jpg)

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/weight-relief-gibson-les-paul-guitars-0615-2012.aspx
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 14, 2016, 04:14:07 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 13, 2016, 04:22:48 AM
I did some digging and it sounds like Gibson has been doing the swiss cheese thing since the early '80s at least on some models. Part of it is supposedly due to them having a harder time getting lighter mahogany.

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/pippy59/gibson-weight-relief-bodies_zps6b6cdc7b.jpg)

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/weight-relief-gibson-les-paul-guitars-0615-2012.aspx

You want an SG that's had the guts replaced and therefore  should cost a little less. Headstock repaired well could make it even more affordable. Then look for pickups that bring out low mids, not simply low end because that turns to mud real quick. Mud isn't heavy , mud is mud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 14, 2016, 04:20:39 PM
The amp is going to make up about 70% of your sound though. Billy Gibbon's les Paul in your hands through a shitty sounding amp is gonna sound like a shitty setup.

So make sure your quad EL34 based tube amp has real iron transformers and 3 knobs max pushing 4 12" Swamp Thangs or Man O Wars. Preferably in a 16 ohm configuration to utilize the entire beautiful richness of that genuine iron transformer.  8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 14, 2016, 10:55:26 PM
Had a very close look at some '14 and newer pauls today. Couldn't believe how light they are. I'd rather have an SG than a chambered or 'modern weight relief' LP. I don't want a 12 or 13 pounder but what is the point in an 8 if you don't particularly care about that body shape? I'm not saying they sound bad, I see bands use them on a fairly regular basis but no. And the fit and finish on some of them does not look good. I like the look of the '60s tribute SG but otherwise I'd get something older. I'm not paying $700 for a beat to shit standard though. I'll figure something out, I won't be seriously recording for many months.

I like my Swamp Thangs a lot. My Carvin head doesn't have the headroom I'd like for live use but it's fine for recording. Got any suggestions for pickups that bring out low mids? For the project I'm working on now I prefer low to medium output as it seems to be smoother with lots of dirt. High output pups and less distortion doesn't offer the same sound in my experience.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 15, 2016, 08:04:20 PM
Lots of choices. But at the end of the day, having them set up well is going to make the most difference. I think most people that aren't happy with their pickups don't have them set up well and at the right height. My SG sounded way muddy when the pickups were too low. I took it to a really good setup guy here in town and it's a completely different guitar than it was when I brought it to him. Mine are t-tops I think. Stock anyways and it's a '77 model standard.  Sounds bitchen now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 15, 2016, 11:00:58 PM
SXSW is already here. Jesus.

Playing a day gig with Deann Rene Band 2:15 at Darwins (fully backlined!) then Ocean of Stars 8pm at Key Bar. Thursday night Adrian Conner headlines Key Bar. Friday Adrian plays Dogwood at 3pm for a cool day party then hauling ass to Houston to play with Bleu Edmondson. Saturday could feasibly play a set with my lady if I get back in time. Sunday Bleu is playing Willies in Buda (yes that is a real town) for his manager's birthday.

This on top of gigs with Bleu Friday and Saturday (with new guitarist and added keys player). Sunday day gig with Thunderosa followed by 3-song session with Taking Back Thaxton. Had Monday and Tuesday during the day off but rehearsals both nights (Adrian last night and TBT which I am currently at.)

SXSWhy do I do this to myself. But you should see Gian Ortiz's schedule. It's truly insane #hero


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 16, 2016, 01:00:57 AM
Quote from: Pissy on March 15, 2016, 08:04:20 PM
Lots of choices. But at the end of the day, having them set up well is going to make the most difference. I think most people that aren't happy with their pickups don't have them set up well and at the right height. My SG sounded way muddy when the pickups were too low. I took it to a really good setup guy here in town and it's a completely different guitar than it was when I brought it to him. Mine are t-tops I think. Stock anyways and it's a '77 model standard.  Sounds bitchen now.

I've noticed that if my pickups are too close to the strings my tone can be too noisy. I experiment a lot with everything.

Just discovered that I left my head on for 24 hours... I'll see if it works tomorrow.  :-\
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on March 16, 2016, 01:02:14 AM
Quote from: Pissy on March 14, 2016, 04:14:07 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 13, 2016, 04:22:48 AM
I did some digging and it sounds like Gibson has been doing the swiss cheese thing since the early '80s at least on some models. Part of it is supposedly due to them having a harder time getting lighter mahogany.

(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp254/pippy59/gibson-weight-relief-bodies_zps6b6cdc7b.jpg)

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/weight-relief-gibson-les-paul-guitars-0615-2012.aspx

You want an SG that's had the guts replaced and therefore  should cost a little less. Headstock repaired well could make it even more affordable. Then look for pickups that bring out low mids, not simply low end because that turns to mud real quick. Mud isn't heavy , mud is mud.

What's the sound like in the different styles of clambering vs solid? More hollow more feedback?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on March 16, 2016, 01:28:49 AM
First show with the new(ish) band finally scheduled for April 9th.  Streets of London in Denver.  Should be a good damn time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 16, 2016, 03:31:32 AM
nice.   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 16, 2016, 07:17:41 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 16, 2016, 01:00:57 AM
Quote from: Pissy on March 15, 2016, 08:04:20 PM
Lots of choices. But at the end of the day, having them set up well is going to make the most difference. I think most people that aren't happy with their pickups don't have them set up well and at the right height. My SG sounded way muddy when the pickups were too low. I took it to a really good setup guy here in town and it's a completely different guitar than it was when I brought it to him. Mine are t-tops I think. Stock anyways and it's a '77 model standard.  Sounds bitchen now.

I've noticed that if my pickups are too close to the strings my tone can be too noisy. I experiment a lot with everything.

Just discovered that I left my head on for 24 hours... I'll see if it works tomorrow.  :-\

Do you use the neck pickup?  You might get what you're after using that instead of the bridge. Also playing the bigger strings higher up on the neck contributes to that hefty tone it sounds like you're looking for.  If you experiment a lot, then I imagine you have noticed this, though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 12:14:42 AM
Accidentally left my Carvin on standby for 24 hours. Update: now it makes a 'puft' sound every 3 or 4 seconds. If I place my hand on the top of it I notice a little bit of vibration that I don't think I did before. Otherwise it sounds the same but that puft thing isn't going to work for recording. Fantastic..



Quote from: Pissy on March 16, 2016, 07:17:41 AM
Do you use the neck pickup?  You might get what you're after using that instead of the bridge. Also playing the bigger strings higher up on the neck contributes to that hefty tone it sounds like you're looking for.  If you experiment a lot, then I imagine you have noticed this, though.

Have noticed this. Have also noticed that playing the same notes on the next string up lower down on the neck can make for more chug with palm mutes because the strings are vibrating more. Sometimes I blend in some of the neck pup for more thickness although it doesn't really provide that much more low end. Thinking about getting an Agile AL or a '13 Gibson SG '60s Tribute, something that might be worth putting money into if need be(fret work, etc). I should have invested in an SG Standard or LP Studio 15 years ago instead of a Faded SG(bat thick neck heavy) and then various cheap guitars.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 11:14:59 AM
Hmmm. I might be able to help if you want an agile.  Neck I think is more like a 60s than a 50s. Sounds like up your alley.

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/5F92F7EA-9F02-4066-89B1-7A5B81BF5088-35667-000033340D7EAE5F_zps3a97bd85.jpg)

Also, if you like thin necks, the Hagstroms are pretty thin. 
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 11:18:25 AM
Scale length gets floppy with those. If they made me a 25.5 SG or LP, I'd be into it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 11:14:59 AM
Hmmm. I might be able to help if you want an agile.  Neck I think is more like a 60s than a 50s. Sounds like up your alley.

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/5F92F7EA-9F02-4066-89B1-7A5B81BF5088-35667-000033340D7EAE5F_zps3a97bd85.jpg)

Also, if you like thin necks, the Hagstroms are pretty thin.  

Aside from the pick guard it looks very nice. Which model? About 10 lbs? Any uneven frets? Stock pups? Why do you want to sell it?
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 11:18:25 AM
Scale length gets floppy with those. If they made me a 25.5 SG or LP, I'd be into it

25.5 only helps a little. I use a custom 14-68 set for A/A# these days. Can't believe I used 13-56 for A and B for so many years, now I'm in C# with those strings on one of my guitars.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 11:14:59 AM
Hmmm. I might be able to help if you want an agile.  Neck I think is more like a 60s than a 50s. Sounds like up your alley.

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/5F92F7EA-9F02-4066-89B1-7A5B81BF5088-35667-000033340D7EAE5F_zps3a97bd85.jpg)

Also, if you like thin necks, the Hagstroms are pretty thin.  

Aside from the pick guard it looks very nice. Which model? About 10 lbs? Any uneven frets? Stock pups? Why do you want to sell it?

Yeah about 10lbs or so. Never noticed any uneven frets, matter of fact this was the first never been touched guitar I'd ever played and I was amazed how nice it was to play mirror finished frets. Everything else I'd ever played was either used or off the shelf, so the frets had been scratched. I'll look at it tonight to decide and inspect.

I never play guitar anymore and if I did I'd be playing my SG. I bought it when I was feeling vulnerable during a 2 week lonely work trip.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 12:28:08 PM
Yeah about 10lbs or so. Never noticed any uneven frets, matter of fact this was the first never been touched guitar I'd ever played and I was amazed how nice it was to play mirror finished frets. Everything else I'd ever played was either used or off the shelf, so the frets had been scratched. I'll look at it tonight to decide and inspect.

I never play guitar anymore and if I did I'd be playing my SG. I bought it when I was feeling vulnerable during a 2 week lonely work trip.

Okay let me know. Is it an AL-2000? Set neck? I've heard good things about Agiles for years.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 02:48:40 PM
3100 MAP I believe it was called. They change model names a lot.

3/4" maple top. Ebony fretboard. Bound set neck. Solid Mahogany. Intended to mimic a plain top tobacco burst. Bone nut. I don't think I've ever changed the strings on it. It didn't really have a place in my lineup so it's still very much like new.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
I have a customer like you, LS. He reads all kinds of shit online posted by people who really don't know a damn thing about what they're talking about. You've NEVER been satisfied with anything you've had. I'm starting to think there isn't an instrument out there for you. You could probably spend a thousand bucks with me having one completely, from the ground up refretted, board radiused, neck reset, new wiring, new pickups, and still find something wrong with it. You're looking for perfection in 300$ guitars when you can't even get a perfect guitar for 3000$.

We play pretty similar music. Hell, a hundred thousand people play similar music. They all use either pure garbage, or the tried and true SG/LP/Tele/Strat/pointy guitar with too many amps combo. There seriously has to be a point where you're satisfied. Get a custom made or something. Where you have total control. 26.5 inch scale or something weird like that.

Hell, my main bass was 35$. It's a hondo copy of a Dano longhorn bass. It's got 6 strings, 105-80-78-65-56-45. That's just about as heavy as you can get. 34 inch scale length. But you know what? The dude from Conan plays a piece of shit Gibson melodymaker SG, one of the 300$ ones. Chip from the Body? A gretsch chet atkins with completely flat frets. The guys from Thou play off the shelf Gibbys.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 17, 2016, 05:18:39 PM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PM


Hell, my main bass was 35$. It's a hondo copy of a Dano longhorn bass. It's got 6 strings, 105-80-78-65-56-45.
I was wondering what that was in the pics you posted. looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 05:48:40 PM
Yeah, it was a bass originally. Someone else hacked the rest of the stuff in. I just finished it with parts from my parts bin. Sounds like thunder.

https://threshing.bandcamp.com/ (https://threshing.bandcamp.com/)

Sounds just like a bass really, just has more strings and handles chords a lot better.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 06:15:57 PM
I think Jake took the blunt short cut to the point I was eventually going to get to.

My bass and my SG weren't purchases I decided I wanted to go after, rather the result of circumstance. The bass I got in 96 from a dude that practiced in our building.  Our shit was stolen and he'd recently moved to guitar and let me borrow it, then hounded me (rightfully so) until I bought it. 92 music man stingray that I grew with.

The SG I took as payment when I worked as a screen printer. In 99 or so.  My buddy and boss had taken it as payment for work too, and he didn't care for it as much as his other guitar so I got it for pretty cheap. A week's paycheck or so. Headstock repaired 1977 square inlayed harmonica bridge neck volute Cherry SG.

I'm married to them in both cases because I played them for so long. This other stuff I got is just fringe shit to try out but nothing will replace the main instruments that ive grown attached to.

In that same spirit my sound (at least for bass) is very much my own, rather than something I had in my head at any point. I grew into that as well, and all I REALLY need is the bass and the amp to get it.  I use effects, but not inherent to my sound.

My gear is dialed for the most part too. If it ever isn't, it's obvious to me at least. My bass at the moment needs the nech adjusted and it's so apparent that we couldn't tune right the other night at BP.   A good setup is pretty critical, and a Gibson off the wall isn't going to be there. Not in my experience anyways. And when the guitar is right, holy shit that blew me away more than anything else I've ever bought. I took everything I wasn't ashamed of owning to get set up.

I would try to influence you to marry your instrument rather than casually date it roll in the hay with it and flip it back and forth, smack it's ass and trying every position in the kama sutra looking for something that blows your mind. If that makes any sense.

I say this only because it worked for me. Instead of constantly going after gear, I'm in sell mode, because I want for very little.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 06:54:29 PM
That Carvin... X100 or whatever?

We had one years ago and there is a heat dissipating resistor with really short leads somewhere in there that got hot enough to melt the solder that held it in. Sprung right out of place.  Perhaps that's the issue here.  Lots of different sounds can come out of that head. Tons of dudes from differing styles play them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 08:01:50 PM
Looks like a new one costs less than I'd sell mine for. Here's one with a slim, compound radius neck. Aside from color, the only differences I can see are the maple top and this has a Tusq nut. Mine is bone from the factory.

http://www.rondomusic.com/3010secrcsbfslim.html.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 11:26:24 PM
Here we go again..

Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
You've NEVER been satisfied with anything you've had.

Incorrect. I'm quite happy with my basses. I have been/am somewhat satisfied with some of my guitars. I'm not going to go through each one in detail. Generally I make do with what I have. Right now I need something better, that happens.

Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
You're looking for perfection in 300$ guitars when you can't even get a perfect guitar for 3000$.

Incorrect. I've defended inexpensive guitars because they can play pretty good for the money. The main problem with them is that their pickups tend to be lacking and their frets often need work. You do your own fret work, that's great, I do not.

Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
Get a custom made or something. Where you have total control. 26.5 inch scale or something weird like that.

No need. 24.75, 25.5, and 27 suit me well. 26.5 may be YOUR fix for the floppiness you recently mentioned.


Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PMHell, my main bass was 35$.

Excellent.

Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 17, 2016, 04:26:19 PM
The dude from Conan plays a piece of shit Gibson melodymaker SG, one of the 300$ ones. Chip from the Body? A gretsch chet atkins with completely flat frets. The guys from Thou play off the shelf Gibbys.

That's great. I've seen Pallbearer destroy with 'nu' 'shit' Faded SGs and with Teles.

All I really care about is comfort and tone. If it sounds good and feels right it is good. We are just moving air. Right now however I am in need of a quality guitar for recording and I don't want to spend money for fret work on something that isn't that good to start with. Rant about that if you want. Yes I want a really heavy sound and I'll admit that part of that is just for my own satisfaction when I'm playing by myself. True all of that crushing low end in that certain way you can't get just by turning the bass knob isn't always so great in the mix live or on recordings. Feel free to rant about that as well, I do my thing and need what I need. I'm a bit of a Goldilocks regarding many things in life, so be it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 06:54:29 PM
That Carvin... X100 or whatever?

We had one years ago and there is a heat dissipating resistor with really short leads somewhere in there that got hot enough to melt the solder that held it in. Sprung right out of place.  Perhaps that's the issue here.  Lots of different sounds can come out of that head. Tons of dudes from differing styles play them.

It's the combo version that was built into a head. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a solder issue.

Quote from: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 06:54:29 PM
Looks like a new one costs less than I'd sell mine for. Here's one with a slim, compound radius neck. Aside from color, the only differences I can see are the maple top and this has a Tusq nut. Mine is bone from the factory.

http://www.rondomusic.com/3010secrcsbfslim.html.

I've read "all kinds of shit online posted by people who really don't know a damn thing about what they're talking about" that leads me to believe that these guitars are great for their low cost. My roommate has a 2000 and I think it's nice and could probably handle massive strings and very low tunings quite well. The finish on your's is more up my alley though.
Title: Re:
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 18, 2016, 12:58:05 AM
I wasn't trying to be a dick, I was just sayin'. It's been almost a decade I've seen your posts. How many pieces of wood have you fondled since the beginning? Seriously, there's nothing mystical, magical, or even remotely complicated. I've been doing this as a professional for a long time. I've seen some serious shitboxes. I own and play nothing but shitbox guitars.  You don't have to tell me cheap shit plays well. I just don't understand how you can be so pissy about such miniscule shit. It's just... I dunno, maybe it's just that we're so opposite. I'd play a 2x4 with strings and find something good about it. You can barely touch a guitar without an aneurysm over some string noise, haha.

My point is maybe you oughta lighten up, or just pay someone to unfuck a guitar and make it perfect. Spend the money, and stop searching. Just do it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on March 18, 2016, 01:32:05 AM
Quote from: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 17, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
Quote from: Pissy on March 17, 2016, 11:14:59 AM
Hmmm. I might be able to help if you want an agile.  Neck I think is more like a 60s than a 50s. Sounds like up your alley.

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/5F92F7EA-9F02-4066-89B1-7A5B81BF5088-35667-000033340D7EAE5F_zps3a97bd85.jpg)

Also, if you like thin necks, the Hagstroms are pretty thin.  

That thing is Beautiful! 

Aside from the pick guard it looks very nice. Which model? About 10 lbs? Any uneven frets? Stock pups? Why do you want to sell it?

Yeah about 10lbs or so. Never noticed any uneven frets, matter of fact this was the first never been touched guitar I'd ever played and I was amazed how nice it was to play mirror finished frets. Everything else I'd ever played was either used or off the shelf, so the frets had been scratched. I'll look at it tonight to decide and inspect.

I never play guitar anymore and if I did I'd be playing my SG. I bought it when I was feeling vulnerable during a 2 week lonely work trip.
Title: Re:
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 18, 2016, 02:31:05 AM
Quote from: VOLVO))) on March 18, 2016, 12:58:05 AM
I wasn't trying to be a dick, I was just sayin'. It's been almost a decade I've seen your posts. How many pieces of wood have you fondled since the beginning? Seriously, there's nothing mystical, magical, or even remotely complicated. I've been doing this as a professional for a long time. I've seen some serious shitboxes. I own and play nothing but shitbox guitars.  You don't have to tell me cheap shit plays well. I just don't understand how you can be so pissy about such miniscule shit. It's just... I dunno, maybe it's just that we're so opposite. I'd play a 2x4 with strings and find something good about it. You can barely touch a guitar without an aneurysm over some string noise, haha.

My point is maybe you oughta lighten up, or just pay someone to unfuck a guitar and make it perfect. Spend the money, and stop searching. Just do it.

I'm not putting $300+ into one of my $100 backup guitars. The search will go on until I find/can afford the right replacement for the scroll. I would also play a 2x4 with strings if I had to, trust me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 18, 2016, 09:10:25 AM
Forgive me, but what was this scroll of which you speak?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 18, 2016, 01:22:05 PM
Hopefully the scroll hasn't fallen into the crooked hands of Sarumon.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 18, 2016, 02:30:55 PM
It's crooked alright, going into the hands of the Ebay buyer who wants to fuck with a warped twisted neck. 25.5" scale, solid mahogany.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/382549_10201391343722815_1662290916_n.jpg?oh=4bf311f7a790220c222e8540d6c66299&oe=57547B0B)
I have the neck pup ring, just wasn't on when I took this picture. I did manage to lose the truss rod cover though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 18, 2016, 05:34:32 PM
Ah now I remember. What did the Warped neck guys tell you again?  Not fixable?  Or did they fix it and the twist returned?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 18, 2016, 07:42:44 PM
Quote from: Pissy on March 18, 2016, 05:34:32 PM
Ah now I remember. What did the Warped neck guys tell you again?  Not fixable?  Or did they fix it and the twist returned?

It's been worked on by 2 different shops for warp and twist. Huge waste of money. The neck guy got rid of much of the twist. The luthier did his thing with the frets. But slowly some of the twist returned. You have to have the action pretty high to get clear sounds out of it. I'm done with it. Sometimes you fuck up in life, this was one of those times for me. Should have immediately sent it back to the guy I bought it from on ebay when I first got it but they are fairly rare and I was instantly in love with it so I thought for sure that it could be fixed without too much trouble.

I'll sell it without pickups to any of you for $150 plus shipping.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 18, 2016, 09:57:44 PM
What about putting a replacement neck on it?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 18, 2016, 10:46:33 PM
i would, id frankenstein that just because the body is so awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 18, 2016, 11:23:47 PM
he went through this on his warped neck vs new guitar thread.  not worth much with a replacement neck.  He's stuck with something more than fully depreciated for the rest of his days.  Unless he wants to pay it forward on Ebay (which would be bad juju) or throw it in the wood stove and provide precious heat for his family during the cold winter months.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 19, 2016, 01:55:18 AM
If he likes everything about the guitar except the neck, then a new neck seems like a good idea. Forget about resale value. (Include the old neck if you have to sell it).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 19, 2016, 03:41:26 AM
A new neck, fitted by a pro, is a great idea but I'm not going to put another cent into it. Color matching the body would be pretty much impossible also. Going to have my pops take some high quality well lit photos for the ebay listing. Full discloser.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 19, 2016, 03:48:48 AM
Opened for Conan & Serial Hawk tonight—helluva show.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 19, 2016, 07:38:00 AM
Nice
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on March 19, 2016, 07:14:23 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 19, 2016, 03:48:48 AM
Opened for Conan & Serial Hawk tonight—helluva show.

Sweet!  Any video or audio share?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: justJon on March 19, 2016, 07:46:36 PM
Got audio of pretty much the whole show. haven't uploaded it or rendered it yet. Still recovering.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 20, 2016, 03:42:49 AM
I saw the wofat, mothership, and black pussy show tonight!  killer.  next week my band plays with some heavy rock bands. stoked!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on March 22, 2016, 08:17:23 PM
Them Wofat boys!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 26, 2016, 07:37:02 AM
I was looking at a motorcycle battery somewhere along the way at the store. it was solid. no more liquid filled lead-acid reality evidently.

anyway, they are compact and solid and I think this would make THEE best pedal supply in the world. I would use the 4 IN4007 rectifier diodes to buck the voltage down to 9.2V and put several levels of fusing in the distribution wiring layout.
you use a standard every day charger on it since it is a standard type battery still.

If you want the ultimate in silent/clean/infinite reserve current/   pedal supplies, there you go.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 29, 2016, 08:25:16 PM
Not really. its a real short circuit problem,  they're expensive ($65 for a motorcycle battery at autozone the other day plus core charge) and if you don't know things like AHrs vs info you normally get with a battery for a vehicle -cold cranking amps or marine cranking amps then you have no idea how long it'll last. Plus you have to recharge it.
And the dirty little secret about industrial batteries is that they are dead at 40% capacity.
And it's heavy if you play out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 30, 2016, 02:56:48 AM
Quote from: Pissy on March 29, 2016, 08:25:16 PM
Not really. its a real short circuit problem,  

this would be the "several levels of fusing" I referred to, keeping that in mind.

Quote from: Pissy on March 29, 2016, 08:25:16 PM

if you don't know things like AHrs vs info you normally get with a battery for a vehicle -cold cranking amps or marine cranking amps then you have no idea how long it'll last.

cold cranking AMPS.  pedalboards use mA. it would last many hours.  that info is in the battery lit on the side of the battery.
Would it be too much of a stretch to assume one would read the label and then KNOW the specs whilst shopping??

and the fact that it uses a std charger makes it no problem.
  bad news chief: ALL batteries need recharging/replacing so i'm not even sure where that came from as an argument against a specific battery vs ANY other battery


have you been pricing these fancy pedal supply rigs lately? some of those supplies cost over $100.


they weigh w/e 10 pounds only and are compact. cant fuck up if it gets knocked over.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 30, 2016, 05:40:59 AM
You'd be better off using the charger from your garage with the step down diodes. Pedals draw 125mA or so, which means 8 draw 1 amp. 1 hour worth of use is 1 Ahr. The more reserve you find, the bigger the battery is going to be. If a motorcycle battery has 10 Ahr reserve I'd be surprised. And you'll only get to use 60% of that.

You said it was the perfect power supply.  I'm saying otherwise.  Building the terminal strip for the barrel connectors alone would be a pain in the ass.

And I don't know about your motorcycle and/or marine batteries, but mine don't have any info on the label describing Ahrs. I looked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 30, 2016, 07:04:40 AM
ok, i'll give you that it isn't perfect. you make good points.

the design goal was super clean power and enough to get through a long show or day

let's assume we find a battery with decent capacity such as this 20 amp hour 13pound beast for $50
http://www.batterysharks.com/SigmasTek-STX20H-BS-p/stx20h-bs_m12-18-310-d.htm

ok, it has to be securely mounted in an enclosure to eliminate any accidental shorting across the battery terminals.
the first level of fusing would be a large auto blade fuse like maybe 10 amps for ctastrphic short protection
the second level of fusing would be all low current glass fast-blo fuses, maybe 250mA in case of a local power tap short, it only blows the local fuse.

I would build the charger circuitry right into the enclosure. they have IC's that make that chore monkey work.
then add an AC relay that activates when you plug the AC power cord into the wall. the relay would kick out the battery->device circuit and engage the battery charger circuit

one could easily use a zener clamp inversely as a min voltage sensor and trip an indicator light(instead of being an actual voltage limiting clamp) when the battery V level is getting "iffy"

and use the good old IN4007 rectifier diodes to buck the battery voltage down to 9.2V


IDK, that's kind of where my ideas are going.

edit: ammo box maybe....a camo ammo box, yeahh heh
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 30, 2016, 07:56:35 AM
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 30, 2016, 08:13:05 AM
not my bag jibby, but have at it.

Might I suggest LiPo batteries. They have no fluid , are smaller and lighter and pack a bigger punch. Abrupt drop off instead of steady decline. They require smart charging and cell monitoring to do so (specialty charger) but are far superior to sealed lead acid. You can get them in a 9.6v configuration (3 cells I think). They can charge really fast too. Some upwards of 65 C.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 30, 2016, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: Pissy on March 30, 2016, 08:13:05 AM
not my bag jibby, but have at it.

Might I suggest LiPo batteries. They have no fluid , are smaller and lighter and pack a bigger punch. Abrupt drop off instead of steady decline. They require smart charging and cell monitoring to do so (specialty charger) but are far superior to sealed lead acid. You can get them in a 9.6v configuration (3 cells I think). They can charge really fast too. Some upwards of 65 C.

I will study new technology.  maybe elon musk has what i'm looking for heh. also the price and long term lasting ability have to be considered.

too many rigs are too noisy. once I get past this silent supply thing I am going to look into in-line filtering along the signal path thru a pedal chain.
some pedals make their own noise(pharaoh supreme for example) and the next buffer strengthens it and so on, so it has to be attenuated somewhere early on.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on March 31, 2016, 05:52:14 AM
ehhhhhhh  ["dismissing wave of the hand" goes here] pedal power is small potatoes.
Imma start working on an array of tent/lanai deals with solar panels for the roofs that can power a generator-less desert jam. well at least during the day..
haha.

anyway.....

in other news:  So much wood results in getting even MORE wood. It's magic or something.

(http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r678/86jibberish/wood2_zps3aeaji8n.jpg)

these just happen to be the 2 whipping boys du jour, and those 2 guitars in my little POS woodsy woods stands looked really nice.
I just need Jethro Tull's turntable from "Songs From the Wood"

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 01, 2016, 04:01:16 AM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 01, 2016, 07:08:57 AM
it's hard to hate on Gibson after watching that.

I wonder who's RF ID system they use to track those necks? That was what I was involved with when I worked for the electronics mfr.
tThat overall place is basically the same as every other production place, and I was in tons of them supporting my product line.
I was the product mgr so when the shit hit the fan, I had to ultimately clean it up, or if there was trouble closing a sale, I had to go out there and try to help out.etc etc etc
anyway, that is a big part of why I don't care to travel any longer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 01, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Our band was just named #13 in best Asheville bands on Invisible Oranges. Pretty stoked.

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/17-bands-you-need-to-know-from-asheville-nc/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top (http://www.invisibleoranges.com/17-bands-you-need-to-know-from-asheville-nc/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 01, 2016, 10:50:38 PM
Quote from: agent of change on April 01, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Our band was just named #13 in best Asheville bands on Invisible Oranges. Pretty stoked.

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/17-bands-you-need-to-know-from-asheville-nc/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top (http://www.invisibleoranges.com/17-bands-you-need-to-know-from-asheville-nc/?trackback=fbshare_mobile_top)
thats awesome.i got a kick out of the descriptions.

NEOCRUST = whats up with the crust
SPACECRUST = more crust
BRUTECORE = sounds gay like brometal
SPACETHRASH = probably cool
CAVE METAL = sounds cool
SLEAZY SLUDGE = no clue what the sleazy means here
METALLIC CRUST - even more crust
DSBC (Depressive Suicidal Black Crust) = best crust of all

who comes up with this stuff??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 01, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
i feel like you guys should have been higher on the list.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 02, 2016, 05:04:44 AM
I agree

Quote from: mortlock on April 01, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
i feel like you guys should have been higher.

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as far as who comes up with this, I bet they are fun to party with.

I came up with a name for a brootal hardcore country band: Chiggerface
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on April 02, 2016, 09:47:40 AM


   FLAVORED CRUST

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 02, 2016, 11:38:14 AM
STUFFED CRUST


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 02, 2016, 02:41:46 PM
then there is thee more massive and even huger than huger pizza:

EARTH'S CRUST !!!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 02, 2016, 04:21:35 PM
Lotta crust in Asheville. Whatever that is. They "dress" the same and can't play their instruments that well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on April 02, 2016, 06:09:00 PM
After checking out the other bands in that article I too belive y'all should be placed at the top.
Really cool stuff.
At least Radiant Beings of Light hold the Number 1 spot for Sexiest Band.

also;

Chiggerface is a brilliant name!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 02, 2016, 07:11:33 PM
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y387/agencyofchange/blush_zpsthnkyduz.gif) (http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/agencyofchange/media/blush_zpsthnkyduz.gif.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 03, 2016, 06:57:13 AM
WOW!!!!!

Santana is getting his whole original lineup back together to make albums.

that keyboard player was every bit as key to the early success of Santana as Santana was

the conversations between those 2 during songs was some of the most brilliant music I have ever heard.
I still play the shit out of Santana albums maybe more than any other band these days. it was so brilliant.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on April 03, 2016, 10:31:30 PM
This Saturday!!!  Ancient Tools' first show at the Streets of London Pub!  Super excited.  It's been almost three years since playing live.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 03, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
"Ancient Tools"  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 05, 2016, 05:27:51 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on April 03, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
"Ancient Tools"  :D

what a beautiful segue into what I was going to rant about: this old guy band thing

somehow, some way, "Nitro Methusela and the 4 Barrel Fossils" (or whomever) has to
establish the new ground rules for rock n roll 2016.
establish the rock of ages as the norm.
it has to be done.



  pleistonercene music

"play" "stoner" "scene" music     ...ahhhh of course, that's what the ancients wanted.  I get it.













I sure hope rock doesn't die like big band did.................


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hi widget. nice to hear from you. what do you have cooking these days?
maybe tour with monobrow some day !! yeah!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 05, 2016, 09:23:00 AM
Random pro tip:

If you join an established band, you are in no position to make demands.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 05, 2016, 03:35:06 PM
kinda depends if they recruited you or not.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 05, 2016, 04:14:06 PM
After our first bassist quit, Ramon basically volunteered his services outta the blue.

I suppose we could've treated him like a hired hand, but when he joined SANDIA MAN, Jon & I agreed to give him a full vote and the option to veto any decision, same as we do. Never regretted it.

That's just how we roll: as a team.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 05, 2016, 07:10:17 PM
Being a team player is important. Previously mentioned individual is not acting like one.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 05, 2016, 07:24:29 PM
Quote from: Danny G on April 05, 2016, 07:10:17 PM
Being a team player is important. Previously mentioned individual is not acting like one.


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spill the beans man. let me guess, your sax player is making demands. its always the sax players and drummers. they are like cats because cats are assholes. that's why they used to call jazz musicians 'cats'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 05, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
Ha!

No not him. He's hella cool.

Waiting to see how the situation plays out before going into any further details.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 06, 2016, 01:57:21 AM
Back to the woodshed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 06, 2016, 09:50:49 AM
Heh


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 08, 2016, 12:17:36 AM
I am a newborn baby. It's awesome when you figure out that the washing machine is fucking with your amps and that they aren't in fact fucked up.  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 08, 2016, 12:24:31 AM
^ That is very awesome.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 08, 2016, 12:28:45 AM
I learn something every decade!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 08, 2016, 02:56:05 AM
how was the washing machine fucking up your amps?

also, being an electrical trouble-shooter my whole life, my instincts tell me this is a "too quickly jump to solution" situation.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 08, 2016, 04:23:56 AM
When it's on my amps cut out and/or make weird sounds. It goes away when the machine is done with a load.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on April 08, 2016, 06:50:45 AM
I go away when I'm done with a load too. 

What sort of washing machine do you have, fucking with time-space?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 08, 2016, 07:58:45 AM
thats why I have a furman p1800 conditioner, this one: http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=P-1800PF

all those lights, PA, bad 50 year old bar elctrical wiring...everyone hits low e string at same time...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 08, 2016, 10:13:45 AM
Quote from: jibberish on April 08, 2016, 02:56:05 AM
how was the washing machine fucking up your amps?


Putting them in the washing machine will certainly fuck them (and the washing machine) up ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 08, 2016, 02:38:46 PM
ahhh, maybe it is a power sharing load problem.

are both the washer and amp on the same breaker?

are you in an ancient 25amp main breaker alva Edison original apartment? haha



wiss-CAN-sin.  it's more north than parts of Canada. this is the most likely ghost in the machine.

I heard the story about neil young and his amp. it was his baby for so long he could tell within a volt or 2 what the mains voltage was at wherever he was playing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 08, 2016, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: Pissy on April 08, 2016, 06:50:45 AM
I go away when I'm done with a load too.

I'm a cuddler.

Quote from: Pissy on April 08, 2016, 06:50:45 AM
What sort of washing machine do you have, fucking with time-space?

I got the base model when Sears was briefly selling that Stephen Hawking line. I might remove the sweet emblem of him in his chair and put it on my XXX which should give the tone a neo-space rock edge.

Quote from: everdrone on April 08, 2016, 07:58:45 AM
thats why I have a furman p1800 conditioner, this one: http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=P-1800PF

all those lights, PA, bad 50 year old bar elctrical wiring...everyone hits low e string at same time...

Good idea but they aren't cheap. I think I'll just not play and wash at the same time.

Quote from: jibberish on April 08, 2016, 02:38:46 PM
ahhh, maybe it is a power sharing load problem.

are both the washer and amp on the same breaker?

are you in an ancient 25amp main breaker alva Edison original apartment? haha



wiss-CAN-sin.  it's more north than parts of Canada. this is the most likely ghost in the machine.

Probably on the same breaker, I think the whole basement is. I imagine I could fix that if I had any knowledge of that stuff but I don't. It was probably upgraded at some point but evidently not very well/not enough/keep in mind I don't know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 08, 2016, 11:41:21 PM
ya do that, dont settle for a cheaper version.  they are nice to protect expensive amps from unforseeable stuff, if you can cut off the problem at the start it might even be better for that one instance. 


later on just think of the horrible hole in the wall clubs and tons of lights, fans and everything plugged in with front of stage loud as possible!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 09, 2016, 04:23:34 AM
I'll keep it in mind if I play out live again but the P1800 costs more than any of my amps. What's wrong with the cheaper ones?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 09, 2016, 03:57:09 PM
I have some cheaper ones and you can hear appliances in them a bit like I plug a fan into the same furman strip and I hear it in my speakers some, to me that is not good

youll just wanna upgrade really

mainly consider a surge protector as cheaper defense, Ive seen dudes amps get fried cause of bad electrical sockets
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on April 09, 2016, 04:02:33 PM
First show tonight with the new band.  Hardest part is not drinking beers yet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 10, 2016, 02:18:39 AM
Quote from: everdrone on April 09, 2016, 03:57:09 PM
I have some cheaper ones and you can hear appliances in them a bit like I plug a fan into the same furman strip and I hear it in my speakers some, to me that is not good

youll just wanna upgrade really

mainly consider a surge protector as cheaper defense, Ive seen dudes amps get fried cause of bad electrical sockets

Both very bad things.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 10, 2016, 03:30:47 AM
ok here is the winner plan:

get yourself 400 semi truck batteries and then you......


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 10, 2016, 11:44:35 AM
I was at the former Emo's location indoors at South by Southwest festival (famous venue, they changed locations)

first band plugged in to that socket, amp died

next band plugged into that wall socket, amp died
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 10, 2016, 01:06:44 PM
Did these amps not have fuses?  ???
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 10, 2016, 01:07:53 PM
Hmmmm, coincidence?  Receptacles unless improperly wired spit out 115-125v depending on the utility company.  Usually they like to push the voltage towards 125v so as to reduce voltage drop.  If the ungrounded and grounded conductors were swapped some sensitive electronics could be fucked, I've seen a fancy tv take a shit because of this.  Also, some moron could have managed to wire the receptacle hot + hot = 240v but this sort of thing gets notice real fucking fast.  I don't see the receptacle being the only outlet on the circuit so lights and other receptacles would also get the incoming voltage that the amps took and the entire building is being fed from the same transformer.  So, unless you are an electrician with a proper tester I'd go with E.D.'s solution and use a power conditioner and a pocket of fuses.  Clubs are wired for shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on April 10, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: dogfood on April 10, 2016, 01:07:53 PM
 Clubs are wired for shit.

Just did a show the other night. All power was non-grounded 2 prong outlets. that put me 30 minutes behind schedule running around looking for a hardware store to purchase some ground lifts. I carry one in my bag for emergencies, not 10+ to cover everything. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on April 10, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
We tripped the breaker at the Lion's Lair (Denver) twice in one set.  Was a good night. ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 10, 2016, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: dogfood on April 10, 2016, 01:07:53 PM
Hmmmm, coincidence?  Receptacles unless improperly wired spit out 115-125v depending on the utility company.  Usually they like to push the voltage towards 125v so as to reduce voltage drop.  If the ungrounded and grounded conductors were swapped some sensitive electronics could be fucked, I've seen a fancy tv take a shit because of this.  Also, some moron could have managed to wire the receptacle hot + hot = 240v but this sort of thing gets notice real fucking fast.  I don't see the receptacle being the only outlet on the circuit so lights and other receptacles would also get the incoming voltage that the amps took and the entire building is being fed from the same transformer.  So, unless you are an electrician with a proper tester I'd go with E.D.'s solution and use a power conditioner and a pocket of fuses.  Clubs are wired for shit.

yes

this
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on April 10, 2016, 09:25:07 PM
Mains tester plugs are pretty readily available. Tell you if the pins are connected how they should be.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 10, 2016, 11:05:40 PM
I want to check out a good mains tester plug, which do you recommend?

With all Danny G's amp problems I would like to hear him chime in, he prolly played at Emos a bunch.  Austin clubs are notorious for bad electrical design.  I bet he would say he does not crank his amps past the point of no return and takes good care of them. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 11, 2016, 03:01:23 AM
fwiw, dogfood is a srs pro electrician IRL,   
so no problem here for me to defer to his wisdom and knowledge in that arena.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 11, 2016, 03:08:30 AM
this is a good place for a public service reminder:

vintage 2 prong AC cord gear is deadly if the plug is reversed and the hot is tied to the transformer chassis/ground plane instead of the white common being connected to the chassis.
The first connection between anyone and anything grounded = mambo ground fault and generally much energetic and lively electrocution ensues as the full wall I+V goes thru that person to ground. lose the green manalishi with the 2 pronged plug and get a 3 pronger in there instead.

your occasional mic electrocution death in bare feet is a good example of this
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 11, 2016, 03:18:45 AM
Quote from: Submarine on April 10, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: dogfood on April 10, 2016, 01:07:53 PM
 Clubs are wired for shit.

Just did a show the other night. All power was non-grounded 2 prong outlets. that put me 30 minutes behind schedule running around looking for a hardware store to purchase some ground lifts. I carry one in my bag for emergencies, not 10+ to cover everything. 

I wonder if you could have run like a car jumper cable thick, cable from the circuit breaker box ground buss out to where the stuff was plugged in and made your own central positive ground point.  it seems at some point, this would be easier than rewiring the entire venue heh. just thinking out loud.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 11, 2016, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: everdrone on April 10, 2016, 11:05:40 PMI want to check out a good mains tester plug, which do you recommend?

With all Danny G's amp problems I would like to hear him chime in, he prolly played at Emos a bunch.  Austin clubs are notorious for bad electrical design.  I bet he would say he does not crank his amps past the point of no return and takes good care of them.

Never had any problems at the old Emo's, but was also playing there when I didn't know much about amps.

Then, as now, I don't push my amps any harder than I need to because They Are Very Expensive To Fix. I also use a power conditioner when I can get away with. It's one of the entry level ones, doesn't exactly regulate voltage, just acts as a glorified power strip that tells me what the wall voltage is
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 11, 2016, 12:20:33 PM
cool man I was curious to see what you would say thanks
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 11, 2016, 05:56:29 PM
\m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 13, 2016, 01:33:12 AM
ok, next iteration of refining my oldster shit-kicker band bandname:

Nitro Methusela and the Fuel Fossils

edit: I really hate the eagles. hotel CA  came on the radio and I "auto-changed" the station like instinctively. haha. fuck that noise.
I do like playing the outro to hotel CA tho, because it is a wicked chord progression. I like good chord progressions. hangar 17, stairway to heaven, time in a bottle, all for example have amazing chord progressions in them


editz: hey liquid!! I think I heard that this Sat. on "vinyl record day", metallica is supposed to be in some small record store in wissCANsin. 

PLEASE, for me, take a Diamondhead album thru the signing line. give that to them to sign haha.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 13, 2016, 02:17:22 AM
ahh. beatles worship. just noticed the Offspring doing some serious beatles worship

this song is great too. not complaining:  get a job


ok now the beatles tune: obla-di obla-da

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 13, 2016, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: jibberish on April 13, 2016, 01:33:12 AM
editz: hey liquid!! I think I heard that this Sat. on "vinyl record day", metallica is supposed to be in some small record store in wissCANsin. 

PLEASE, for me, take a Diamondhead album thru the signing line. give that to them to sign haha.

They would either throw a fit or excitedly sign it. I'd have to first buy a Diamond Head album on vinyl. Hours in line for their lame signatures?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 14, 2016, 08:09:01 PM
I need to learn that resizing trick.

This is the easiest form of receptacle tester.  If the receptacle is wired 240v it will cook.  



(http://www.kleintools.com/sites/all/product_assets/catalog_imagery/klein/rt600.jpg)

I have a receptacle tester, a hot stick, and a digital tester in my "pouch" at work.  The digi will tell you the critical shit if you know where to stick the leads!

(http://www.coast-coast.co.za/Fluke/Images/t5-h5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 14, 2016, 11:41:21 PM
Okay so if you are just using something like that Klein tester and it reads something other than 'correct wiring' you don't use the outlet and refuse to play if you can't find a better one or are some of the other lights okay? I assume venue managers/sound people would just laugh and tell you 'everyone uses that outlet, it's fine'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 15, 2016, 12:03:39 AM
thats cool!  I see it is $20.  can you plug it into a multi-plug power strip and it does what it is supposed to? 

usually the tiny stage that I have played on has me plug into power strips cause front of stage sound and lighting has monopolized everything.

here is what I shopped for that is about $20:

klein Cat. No. RT500

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=klein+Cat.+No.+RT500&newwindow=1&tbm=shop
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 15, 2016, 12:26:08 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 14, 2016, 11:41:21 PM
Okay so if you are just using something like that Klein tester and it reads something other than 'correct wiring' you don't use the outlet and refuse to play if you can't find a better one or are some of the other lights okay? I assume venue managers/sound people would just laugh and tell you 'everyone uses that outlet, it's fine'.

ya I wonder if some that are not correct wiring are still useable and if my furman would correct the problem for my purposes

for $20 seems pretty cool though if you use the same plug all the time at the practice room or your apartment
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2016, 12:56:32 AM
New band name:

Receptacle Tester


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Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2016, 01:08:16 AM
Might be playing bass with a pick this weekend.

Have been having some shoulder trouble (where all the finger-picking/forearm muscles connect) in addition to my intermittent elbow pain (also where everything connects). Haven't been playing as much bass lately and somehow over-exerted myself playing a three songs with 2 bands at a showcase where Ric Furley (Ocean of Stars drummer) played 2 songs with as many of his bands could fit into an hour and a half. Did two tunes with Rick Hornyak and closed the evening with a Deann Rene song. Somehow that did it and my shit was hurting immediately afterwards.

Figured it would subside by Thursday morning but no dice. Had to call Deann Rene that day (before rehearsal with a fill-in drummer) that I'd be questionable for the gig that Sunday. Limped through rehearsal sitting down and using a pick. Her bf is an accomplished bassist who could sub if need be. Cool. Had two gigs with Bleu Edmondson on guitar (doesn't seem to aggravate it), but I was still feeling achy and didn't want to push it as I still had 2 rehearsal, two gigs on bass, then leaving for Arizona for a 4 date run with Adrian for the upcoming week...!

Been icing it and taking ibuprofen, seems to be helping. Tonight did a rehearsal using mainly a pick and felt good but didn't want to push it.

So might be using a pick tomorrow with Eric Tessmer and Saturday with Deann Rene.

Will be weird, but it'll work.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on April 15, 2016, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on April 14, 2016, 11:41:21 PM
Okay so if you are just using something like that Klein tester and it reads something other than 'correct wiring' you don't use the outlet and refuse to play if you can't find a better one or are some of the other lights okay? I assume venue managers/sound people would just laugh and tell you 'everyone uses that outlet, it's fine'.

Im wondering the same thing, are there any work arounds?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 15, 2016, 10:36:39 PM
so my bandmate has this piece of shit sears bass [right handed, he is a lefty and a guitar player, not a bassist] that he got for like $5 years and years ago. he never plays it and really cant because he is a lefty. it just sits in the corner of the jam room. it only sees action if I end up using it. for some stupid reason ive grown fond of the bass and I want to buy it off him. he needs money and id be willing to give him a very fair price, more than what its really worth. I wouldn't mind doing that, one because I want it and two because it would help him out financially speaking.
heres the problem, the second I ask him to sell it to me, he will suddenly have a need for the bass. he is just that guy. we all know people like that. so the question is, how do I get him to sell me the bass?? I need to psychologically trick him somehow. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 16, 2016, 12:54:54 AM
just puke on it  = yours.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 16, 2016, 03:28:05 AM
theres always that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: dogfood on April 16, 2016, 05:41:29 AM
ask the owner to plug his laptop in first.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 16, 2016, 06:41:32 PM
heh, someone is playing my colour haze mountain ripoff jam. it is up to 139 plays, and I don't remember any double digits before.

well colour haze inspired it, so it probably has to be good ..mweep mwow

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/colourhazemtripoffjam104[/soundcloud]

just wish it started a bit more strongly, but oh well
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 18, 2016, 12:26:59 AM
I wish the price of solar panels would drop more.  this is the future of stealth outlaw pirate generator jams: silent generator

the only rub is when the sun goes down

now that the music room is finished (2+ year adventure inspired by jake's awesome basement)
the next step is a trailer, like one of those landscape/dirtbike sized trailers. this will be the portable mobile music setup

btw, the Stanley generator is still too loud. plus it really could use some power conditioning too. it is too hard core really
i'm going to have to bite the bullet and get the Honda like I should have at the start.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 18, 2016, 07:21:04 PM
looks like he is willing to part with the bass for a half ounce of some green. pics soon.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 20, 2016, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: jibberish on April 18, 2016, 12:26:59 AM
I wish the price of solar panels would drop more.  this is the future of stealth outlaw pirate generator jams: silent generator

the only rub is when the sun goes down

now that the music room is finished (2+ year adventure inspired by jake's awesome basement)
the next step is a trailer, like one of those landscape/dirtbike sized trailers. this will be the portable mobile music setup

btw, the Stanley generator is still too loud. plus it really could use some power conditioning too. it is too hard core really
i'm going to have to bite the bullet and get the Honda like I should have at the start.


Tesla Powerwall!  ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 21, 2016, 07:33:25 PM
I booked some time for tomorrow at an hourly rehearsal studio with a great drummer that you all know and my brother on bass.
Time to shake off the rust and make some damn music!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on April 22, 2016, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 21, 2016, 07:33:25 PM
I booked some time for tomorrow at an hourly rehearsal studio with a great drummer that you all know and my brother on bass.
Time to shake off the rust and make some damn music!

For those about to rock....... ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 22, 2016, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 21, 2016, 07:33:25 PM
I booked some time for tomorrow at an hourly rehearsal studio with a great drummer that you all know...

Is it priest, by any chance?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 22, 2016, 12:49:00 PM
Quote from: RacerX on April 22, 2016, 12:36:08 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 21, 2016, 07:33:25 PM
I booked some time for tomorrow at an hourly rehearsal studio with a great drummer that you all know...

Is it priest, by any chance?

Nope. The drummer is Johann.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 22, 2016, 01:15:16 PM
Johann of... ??
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 22, 2016, 01:53:51 PM
Quote from: RacerX on April 22, 2016, 01:15:16 PM
Johann of... ??

Sebastian Bach? ???

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Sebastion_Bach_2012.jpg/220px-Sebastion_Bach_2012.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 22, 2016, 02:35:14 PM
Quote from: RacerX on April 22, 2016, 01:15:16 PM
Johann of... ??

Totimoshi, (Men of)Porn, Diesto, Greenhouse Effect, etc.
Posted as Johannslam on the old board.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 22, 2016, 03:27:13 PM
Aha! Good on you guys!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 23, 2016, 01:09:05 PM
The jam went as well as it could for three guys who have been away from it for so long. The gear we got to play on was decent. Adequate PA, Fender Super Sonic, Tama Star Classic, Acoustic bass rig (i don't know the model).

Some great moments and some clunkers. Things go best when we slip into a stream-of-consciousness improv and just go where the sounds may lead us.
The thing with us is that the chops and eclectic tastes are there. Once upon a time all three of us could play anything we'd set out to do. The possibilities are so endless it is paralyzing.
I'm striving towards a Cactus and Blue Cheer like interpretation of Captain Beefheart's version of the blues as approximated by a Cobham's `Spectrum' tribute band in a Muscle Shoals session lead by John Fogerty's beer soaked flannel and Dan Aykroyd.

It probably actually just sounds like really bad George Thorogood on weed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 23, 2016, 06:37:51 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 23, 2016, 01:09:05 PM
I'm striving towards a Cactus and Blue Cheer like interpretation of Captain Beefheart's version of the blues as approximated by a Cobham's `Spectrum' tribute band in a Muscle Shoals session lead by John Fogerty's beer soaked flannel and Dan Aykroyd.

sounds killer to me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 24, 2016, 01:53:58 AM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 23, 2016, 01:09:05 PM
The jam went as well as it could for three guys who have been away from it for so long. The gear we got to play on was decent. Adequate PA, Fender Super Sonic, Tama Star Classic, Acoustic bass rig (i don't know the model).

Some great moments and some clunkers. Things go best when we slip into a stream-of-consciousness improv and just go where the sounds may lead us.
The thing with us is that the chops and eclectic tastes are there. Once upon a time all three of us could play anything we'd set out to do. The possibilities are so endless it is paralyzing.
I'm striving towards a Cactus and Blue Cheer like interpretation of Captain Beefheart's version of the blues as approximated by a Cobham's `Spectrum' tribute band in a Muscle Shoals session lead by John Fogerty's beer soaked flannel and Dan Aykroyd.

It probably actually just sounds like really bad George Thorogood on weed.

that's funny.
"so out the door you went" heh
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on April 26, 2016, 01:44:22 PM
Bridge pup with tone knob at 5 or 0 vs neck pup. Go!

Bridge at 0 for the win! Getting into that half cocked wah like tone when I want something less traditional metal sounding.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 26, 2016, 02:14:46 PM
I use the bridge at about 4 for most applications; neck p/u tone is set to 1 for "fat woman tone."
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 26, 2016, 05:28:01 PM
On my 79 Iceman I have the neck coil tap switch wired to take the tone cap in/out of circuit. So can dial in a woman tone and go back and forth with the flick of a switch rather than dialing it back then forgetting to return it to 10 for the next song.


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Post by: liquidsmoke on April 27, 2016, 12:12:57 AM
Nice and nice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 27, 2016, 02:13:43 PM
I am clueless in regards to using the tone and volume knobs on a guitar (I'm more of a bass player, 1 volume knob and 1 tone knob is all I want... Fender Precision Bass)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on April 27, 2016, 04:37:53 PM
^ there are some dudes that tweak constantly.   I tend to use them in a more overt way to obviously change the sound for another part of a song.
the only exception I can think of off-hand is when you are feeling the tube's sound and you need to chill out the guitar output a bit to work the tubes correctly. but that is more like dialing in a sweet spot I guess.

edit: I like to roll the volume like adjusting the attack on an ADSR filter. get that violin sounding attack shit going. try it, it's fun, especially with delays and reverbs all going

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I was thinking about the problem with the PUP selector switch and me always knocking it to the bridge PUP. I play the neck 95% so I should reverse those switches.
Then, if I bash the switch down , it already is on the neck PUP and nothing happens. That's the real problem for me.


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so GC has some kind of masterclass dealio with Zakky baby. he wrote some ghey song like a ballad, and his solo blows. I think he knows it too so he is having a video contest for people to add their solo to the backing track.  it is at guitarcenter/masterclass.
anyway, they hook you up with some youtube acct  and the backing track and you have to make a video and then host it. the 5 winners get lessons in LA and a pile of gear.

HERE IS MY IDEA. heh.   time to unleash some noise solos, hades mining company style.  in other words, let's all troll the fucker.

edit: you can google the entries. they show up in a couple search type places. it is interesting to see all kinds of ideas and styles and weird looking people.
there seems to be quite a few that I would sort of just like to smash their rigs across their heads.   you'll see.  and that's what gave me the evil idea.  bunch of limp wristed wah's

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so the nutrocker is coming along nicely.   (wow, is THAT a setup or what)
the original bee bumble and the stingers version is actually easy


so, dogfood, what if you learned that guitar solo part????muahaha

Since we lost Keith Emerson, I want to learn his version. his kicks ass with more boogie in the middle anyway.
I found this Italian dude who is a really good keyboard player and a huge emerson fan
I think I can learn it from his video.  working on the 3 chord boogie woogie bassline in the middle right now
imagine Mr Bucci playing along with drums and a bass like ELP did. it would slay.

Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 27, 2016, 04:46:56 PM
I ride my volume knob quite a bit on bass (p-bass).

Often I'll turn my amp up slightly higher than it needs to be and roll the bass knob back a little. That way if I need a little more it's right there on hand. I'll also roll it back further for quieter parts.

Tone knob I don't mess with a whole lot, unless I'm using someone else's amp. Then it's a quick fix for EQing rather than jacking with someone else's amp settings.


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Post by: black on April 27, 2016, 05:13:35 PM
^technically wise and socially polite.^^
Coolness.
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Post by: agent of change on April 27, 2016, 08:06:15 PM
Speaking of knobs, I just played with a guy off Craigslist. He said he played Moog but then showed up with a guitar and two pedalboards full, some of them Moog pedals. I should mention he showed up 30 minutes late with no indication of how late he was running. Then he set up but couldn't figure out how to get all his shit working. He was also wearing hippie pants and a tie dye shirt. Then he was sure it was the input jack on his guitar that he had just changed out, and I said "why don't you switch out a cable" and he did and it worked, which was kinda disappointing cuz then I had to actually play with him. He didn't connect with me at all, just played some notes and then mostly twiddled his knobs. Absolute lack of musical connection. Then I told him I had to do some other shit, and helped him pack up his gear. On the way out I told him "30 minutes late killed if for me. I can give you more feedback if you want it." He declined and said he understood.

What a fucking knob.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 27, 2016, 08:31:08 PM
People who constantly hunch over their pedalboard chasing after sounds can be hard to deal with. Commit to something...

I like that "boost on tap" way to use the volume knob Danny.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 27, 2016, 08:35:30 PM
I like to set it and forget it.

If I have to tweak shit it's mainly a case of resetting my phaser, or some pedals like the FT Bass Drive seem to need to be dialed in a bit every time I play.

I try not to touch my amp once the set starts.


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Post by: mortlock on April 27, 2016, 08:44:23 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on April 27, 2016, 08:31:08 PM
People who constantly hunch over their pedalboard chasing after sounds can be hard to deal with. Commit to something...

agreed. i usually limit myself to a fuzz or distortion and one other fx. flanger or phasor or delay. thats the options. it forces the discipline.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 28, 2016, 08:05:15 AM
I think he fancied himself a psychedelic noise guy and had no idea he was boring as fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 28, 2016, 08:49:56 AM
^^^^


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on April 29, 2016, 12:37:41 AM
Im not much of a knob tweeker, once its diald in it might stay there for years.  I do like to swap pedals out a lot so things sound fresh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 29, 2016, 02:23:24 PM
Holy shit.

So a good friend works at a second hand store that is moving.

She called me today to see if I could come by immediately and check out some of the musical gear that's been sitting in the back storage room for years. Either it needed to go or they would just have to move it to the new location. She had already claimed a 1940s mandolin and an electric violin for herself (which I may purchase both from her).

Dug through the rest of the dusty piles and claimed:

A small Yamaha acoustic guitar in gigbag
A violin or fiddle in a soft case (for my gf)
A classical guitar from Spain and a hard shell acoustic case
A set of Sabian and Meinl cymbals and hats
A crate acoustic? amp
A five-piece woodgrain drum set which I am trying to ID. No faceplates, no stamps, Pearl kick pedal
A metal toolbox full of tools
Some kind of headphone amp? thing
A 2 space gator rack case (empty)

Trying to remember what else.

All for free.

Just, holy shit. Sometimes the universe throws me a bone. This is one of those times o_O


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 29, 2016, 02:25:45 PM
Update: the drum set is a Pearl. Trying to ascertain series/era now.


Dude.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 29, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
Update: could be a 70s Pearl


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Post by: neighbor664 on April 30, 2016, 01:20:13 PM
Score! What a haul!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 30, 2016, 04:46:44 PM
I'll have to take it to a drummer friend for a full inspection, but yeah it's either a stripped 70s Pearl Export or a custom home made set.

Won't really know how is sounds until I can change heads (literally ALL of them, top and bottom) and get a spare kick drum leg.

So either these will sound awesome or sound what you'd expect a free mystery drumset to sound like.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on April 30, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
Nice score dude. Those Meinl cymbals are probably worth what you paid for em though. Don't hit em too hard.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 30, 2016, 11:16:18 PM
nice dude!  killer friend there  :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 01, 2016, 12:29:17 AM
Quote from: agent of change on April 30, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
Nice score dude. Those Meinl cymbals are probably worth what you paid for em though. Don't hit em too hard.


I paid nothing for it and am happy to have it m/,
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 01, 2016, 12:32:06 AM
Can't wait to hear what these drums sound like, but I'll be having to replace most of the heads. Which costs money :/

Curious to hear how these compare against my 70's Slingerland kit. I plan to keep one kit and sell the other. Because bills.


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Post by: jibberish on May 01, 2016, 12:52:05 AM
fuckin a chief!  just about had to call omar the tentmaker to adjust my pants after reading the body count wow!!!!

and I can't think of a more deserving person of a random cosmic bonus.

final answer: fuckin a!

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"Watch it, that AC/DC guitar guy is one g away from being a total asshole..js"
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i'm being lazy. does someone already play fred bear? I would dig if someone could hit record and lay the rhythm guitar down

I was thinking about using the audacity/WASABI trick and get the real song into audacity. the more complex plucking is between the vocals and he just hits much duller and simpler chords while he sings.  then i'll cut all the vocal phrases out and record one nice take of those 3 dull chords and paste paste paste paste haha.


OR learn the fucking song because it is 7 minutes of 3 very similar parts repeating. but that's why I don't wanna: 7 minutes is an eternity to fuck up a "one-off" performance just to record a gadget song.

WTF am I doing dancing with fred bear?  Well, this song struck me as a cool tune with ghey lyrics. and just like bricks and dumb found out, when I think your song is ghey, I get to fixing it up.  the song is now "Friend Beer" and I believe the chorus is too much fun, so I need to make this become reality haha.

edit: I was thinking that I am accumulating a large pile of these "evil weird al" songs I do. I bet some day I could do a really long set and hand out printed out lyric sheets so the crowd could sing new words to songs that everyone knows so well.
I also want to start a karaoke revolution, but the show killer is if there are backing vocals =  U R FUCKED
I think my version of turn the page would slay the crowd on karaoke night. then they would be wondering what I promised for next week

y'all haven't seen my new version of that old "my baby , she wrote me a letter" song.  it's now called "Going to see a slayer show" haha.

..got me a ticket to a aeroplane slayer show.   they kick ass and I gotta go....  and so on. 
so I have to get that laid out..busy busy busy...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 01, 2016, 11:19:21 AM
In asking about the drums online, one person brought up a good point that with the wraps removed the rims may not seat properly >:(


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 03, 2016, 05:02:41 AM
I was getting worried about figuring out the part that emerson added to his version of nutrocker.
the original Switzerland 1970 film and the bucci video are both unclear as to the detail of the playing.
I have been mostly searching for some kind of piano score while I burn the left hand pattern into my brain.
I may finally have found something: a crappy as hell ?korean? MIDI piano-roll style video.

the left hand is totally wrong, BUT the right hand clues, the ones I need, are there frozen in print.

This POS video is going to let me do this. (the emerson part starts at 1:39 and goes a few bars until it goes back to the main theme)



my nephew started talking about playing around on some piano a dude fixes up and leaves randomly around the towns (that dude is awesome for doing that=more music on this world. mega kudos)
anyway..my nephew said he digs boogie woogie and is starting to learn how to play it.
Talk about a massive segue,
so I got to play a fairly intact round of the original nutrocker.  the flow is still choppy becaue I haven't really practiced the entire thing much.  I had to work out the rough parts before even thinking about assembling the whole song
I did it on a massive synth sound though heh, any stu can use a piano.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 03, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
Well this is cool.

Have two friends/projects that are wanting me to come in the studio to do harmony vocals.

Both are projects I've been heavily involved in, but not currently "in". At least one will pay.

Awesome! I've never been brought in as a ringer to do vocals before. #hugeconfidenceboost


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Post by: jibberish on May 05, 2016, 03:02:23 AM
ringer has a nice ring to it. nice.

Mortay, are there any noise bands that use ?"noise vocals"?
i'm not even sure I know what I am asking, but I guess a band where some kind of vocals is a fair fraction of what the music[sic] is all about.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 05, 2016, 10:50:50 PM
yeah, if i understand you right, id say there are plenty. tons of P.E. bands/artists use vox as part of their 'sound'.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 06, 2016, 12:44:44 AM
cool. I like to screw around with vocal sounds and different voices, so that would be a fun angle to explore.

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I/O trick:

The Problem:   if you are trying to drive a hi-impedance input (like the mic input on my video camera) with a lower impedance source that has some drive to it(like the korg synth line outs), the input gets blown away before you can even really crack the volume on the source and climb above the noise floor.

What is happening is that the circuitry of the synth is designed to flow a certain amount of current to set up max volume(voltage). A hi-impedance input really only wants to "SEE" a voltage, not choke down a pile of current, so it all craps out.

The Solution:  look up the output impedance of the device that wants to drive too much current and get a resistor of that same value.
Put that resistor right across the output from signal to ground. You now are giving the hot output exactly the impedance match to get the optimal V and I AND it sounds the best.

Meanwhile, at the top of the dummy load resistor, the hi-impedance input is calmly watching the voltage that has been set at the top of that resistor, and easily monitors even full volume (max voltage) without having to choke down a bunch of current. the dummy resistor is doing that chore.

make sense?  we are playing with an electrical concept known as "The Maximum Power Transfer" theory.

[this would be sophomore year electronics after full calc sequence is completed freshman year, so you can understand via the math wtf is really going on.
if you don't know how to use calculus you cant even begin to fully look into the frequency domain and definitely are missing out on a Godzilla sized pool of really cool information. how can you do complex hooke's law calculations? that is the most universal physical equation in the universe, except it is a 2nd order differential equation that algebra can barely slog through.  good thing scraping road pizza only requires keeping your grubby fingers out of your mouth]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 06, 2016, 04:28:51 PM
Step 2 of I/O trick: do the homework.

What I know at the start: the korg output immediately blows the camera mic input away.

What is the korg line output impedance?
The manual says 1.1k and it can drive a 100k load.  <-the clue is this will be the best load for the best sound

What is the camera mic input impedance? it turns out that the impedance isn't all that high but it is super high gain and cant even take much voltage along with little to no current.

this now requires a 2-step resistor which provides
a) a 100k load for the korg output to see
b) and some way to really take the starch out of the line level signal and kill the voltage and the current. this is called an attenuator circuit

anyway, you build what is called a pad
here is a link to one with some nice explaindo, and the nice 100k look to the input side the korg would need to see, and a thousandfold reduction in schmoltz across that 100 ohm resistor the mic input is seeing

http://arrakis-systems.com/pdfs/Microphone%20Input%20to%20Line%20Level%20Adapter.pdf
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 10, 2016, 01:48:47 PM
Got together with my buddy who I'll be recording vocal harmonies for. Went great! In fact he's also doubling my workload of songs as well as pay.

We used GarageBand, he played the existing tracks and I recorded over them, first experimenting, then finding what works, then fine tuning. Did six songs and he still has a few more.

Felt great to work out my voice (I need to start warming up for gigs), as well as really listen back to myself and see what I can improve (opening my throat more, projecting more or less depending on the needed dynamics etc)

We have one more sit-down next week to do the last few songs and better fine-tune what we've worked out. Full day session next week Thursday, which we'll be prepared as hell for.

Interesting listening back to my own voice. By itself/too loud in the mix it still sounds weird, but when mixed to the proper level really blends well with other voices. Cool :)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 12, 2016, 09:22:35 AM
First Ocean of Stars rehearsal since SXSW last night.

Went great considering it's been two months m/, (however I have yet to listen the jam room recordings)

Two rehearsals next week, gotta be right for our gig in the 21st


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 14, 2016, 06:20:54 AM
^^ I remember I kind of freaked out the first time I heard the playback of my voice recorded on a nice setup.
(hi end blue mic, avalon tube pre, mac, pro-tools, mackie monitors)

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ghetto fix for neck divers:  put an oversized lag screw with a standoff that holds the strap a distance away from the guitar body.
one inch makes an amazingly big difference. the screw has to be long and well seated because of the increased force created by the leverage from the strap now being out from the body. (the correct term for that pivoting force caused by the strap is "torque moment-arm")

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boogie woogie bassline indoctrination is going well. initially, it is tiring due to muscles fighting each other. after the patterns get burned in, the speed goes up nicely

then the real fun is splitting that hand out from your right hand and add something while maintaining the boogie woogie bass

the emerson bassline is a pure 12-bar blues.  that in itself is fine.
the problem is the pattern is one that moves, not a mindless 1-2-3-4 over and over.

so I have been just drilling that pattern and trying to do stuff with the right hand, even drinking coffee while playing the bassline helps split the hands apart. heh.
the rubber meets the road right as I have to check that the coffee cup is sitting ok so it doesn't tip when I let it go. the rest of the time is robo-drink, like your shake in the car = zero thought needed. pretty cool realizing what things you can and cant do sans conscience thought.

the other bummer is that there isn't a whole lot of schmaltz left in my left hand after an hour of those drills, and the guitar playing time has suffered.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 16, 2016, 11:06:46 AM
So the West Texas run with Adrian Conner/Chasca almost ended before we even loaded drums into the van.

Vincent Van Go (her van) had a busted turn signal light. In replacing the bulb it shattered in her hand and cut her index finger pretty bad (and RIGHT where she holds a pick).

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For scale, the smaller blood droplets pictured are the size of nickels.

The initial amount of blood led us to wonder if an ER visit was required. But the old guy who works at the rehearsal space had a first aid kit on hand and was able to stop the bleeding and get her patched up.

She would have to hold her pick with middle finger (index finger now a mummy of band aids), so we'd have to strike a few of the more complex numbers from the set, but the show went on!

Marfa, Alpine and San Angelo all got rocked proper. Much fun, and much respect to Adrian for being such a fucking trooper.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 18, 2016, 04:57:45 PM
Finally cleaning up the new drums with lemon oil and giving all the lugs some WD-40.

Man, this is a gorgeous kit.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Bro. Righteous on May 18, 2016, 09:18:07 PM
I dip the lugs in vasoline, just the tip, not as greasy or slippy as wd40...keeps the tuning tight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 19, 2016, 08:52:34 AM
Yeah I've seen people do that but no Vaseline here.

Guess I could have gone organic and used coconut oil, heh


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 19, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
Last Ocean of Stars rehearsal in prep for Saturday last night. We sounded good. Stoked for the gig!

Still need to do the media blast for the digital single.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 20, 2016, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: Danny G on May 19, 2016, 08:52:34 AM
Yeah I've seen people do that but no Vaseline here.

Guess I could have gone organic and used coconut oil, heh


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Hey now, save that stuff for General Discussion.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 21, 2016, 07:37:44 PM
Heh :) I'm a hippie.

Here's the archive of the interview I did with Laurie Gallardo of KUTX:

http://kutx.org/features/ocean-of-stars-interview-with-danny-g


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 24, 2016, 10:47:04 PM
I may need to come up with down payment money fast. I am considering selling my 1972 Ampeg V4. It's in beautiful shape. Would anyone here be interested?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on May 26, 2016, 11:31:57 PM
MD spent the night making a music video at a local barcade. It was super awesome and we even got a few of the bar patrons in on it.

We're going to do one more shoot in the practice space for some cut scene rocking out stuff and then we should be done.  What we did tonight looks pretty good and is pretty damn funny.

(http://s33.postimg.org/r58advkn3/video_shoot.jpg)

Me getting pissed at the drummer using Blanka and pulling some cheap electrocution bullshit

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on May 28, 2016, 09:07:23 PM
^is that second pic the correct one for the caption?? I can't make the connection.

I have a feeling you guys may become famous, moreso than anyone else that posts.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: agent of change on May 29, 2016, 10:40:17 AM
Been jamming with a bassist, guitarist, and cellist/guitarist. It's all been improv and for some guys who don't know each other that well, really really good. I plan to pick up a digital recorder today so we can start lifting pieces out of the improv and crafting the bones of songs. Then I hope to add more musicians.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 29, 2016, 01:42:34 PM
Bad ass.

Music is such a universal language. People who don't know anything about each other and may not even speak the same language can all still sit down and have a "conversation"


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 02, 2016, 12:21:57 PM
Can someone explain to me the protocol on fb response time. If you msg a band about playing a show, how long should you be expected to wait for an answer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 02, 2016, 12:40:20 PM
Couple of days.

Sometimes people are busy. Sometimes people are lazy.

Wait a few days and send a follow up message. If no response to that after a few more days, there's your answer.

If it's about a last minute slot you are trying to fill, contact other bands.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 02, 2016, 12:47:48 PM
Wtf is wrong with a band responding and simply declining or accepting the invite. Maybe I'm old fashioned  but I feel like it's bullshit to ignore shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on June 02, 2016, 12:55:34 PM
if you cant reach by phone, one thing you could do is put a response deadline in your invite

they might not have gotten the message or have their own internal deadlock so that they do not know how to respond, maybe they have a bunch of things to do on their docket
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 02, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
There's a venue id like Ocean of Stars to play. Booker does mostly FB messenger.

Repeated occasional messages over the course of many months. Not a single response. We've already played there.

Sometimes you just gotta take a hint and move on.


Edit: For the record I still like this club and have nothing against the booking agent. I get the sense he doesn't want to book us. Fair enough. I'll still go there and hang out, and there are plenty of other places to play.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 02, 2016, 02:54:10 PM
If it's a key place to play in Austin, when you're there hanging out, bring it up in person; at least he'll be forced to give you a straight answer...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 02, 2016, 04:24:29 PM
I'll just keep asking friends to be on a bill there.

#backdoorman


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 02, 2016, 05:34:01 PM
I get it, people are busy. I guess I can see where someone wouldn't have an extra 4.5 seconds in their busy day to type a yes or no response and hit send.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on June 02, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
if they are busy and they know the answer is "no" then maybe there is a reason they dont respond.  maybe they got backlash on facebook or google reviews from a band in the past or something.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 03, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
^^^^^^^ i'm tellin 'ya,  somehow, someway, the bands have to grab the reins and create their own venue concepts

big label/physical media  days have evolved away

but if you think about it, this whole booking gigs at a venue method has been going on since rock started.

there is a better way. people just have to try stuff and figure it out.


my immediate suggestion is to talk to non-venue bar's and other public stores/facilities about playing there. assume they have zero sound system and be ready to show up with the whole deal.
but this means you could play a parking lot behind some local mom n pop place that will be slinging frappe's like they never have slung frappe's while a group of people is hanging out watching the band = win+win

I bet anyone could march up to city hall and level with them.:we want to play music and we would like to support this charity____, can we play in the town square gazebo????

the jackyl 40' flatbed trailer stage idea is huge and uber-portable.    maybe the ghetto version of that is like 3 landscape trailer rigs, whip in, the trailer doors fly open and all the shit is there to set up and go.

I keep getting the sense that everyone hates this system but begrudgingly suffers it, and mostly to a frustrating end because dildo's have too much control.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 03, 2016, 08:51:42 AM
in better news, my buddy is stopping by so we can put together a couple concepts.

The Xanax Chimps noise/exp project will have its first band practice.  we plan on practicing mass consumption and obscene noise generation.
this guy can blow john pigman away(George Carlin reference RIP). he was a legend in highschool

Also, my buddy really REALLY wants a marching dumpster (big steel rolling percussion device).
I know frank zappa is smiling from the other side when we talk about thee marching dumpster

edit: the Xanax Chimps play cripple-hop and dambient manifestations, ya that sounds good...
(making this up as I go, so....), and it's guaranteed to "rip your face off!!!!!!!11!!!!"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on June 03, 2016, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: jibberish on June 03, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
^^^^^^^ i'm tellin 'ya,  somehow, someway, the bands have to grab the reins and create their own venue concepts


around here at small clubs they get one band to book the rest of the bands on the ticket
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 03, 2016, 01:19:38 PM
Quote from: everdrone on June 03, 2016, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: jibberish on June 03, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
^^^^^^^ i'm tellin 'ya,  somehow, someway, the bands have to grab the reins and create their own venue concepts


around here at small clubs they get one band to book the rest of the bands on the ticket

see, somehow everyone has to start thinking beyond this model of club venue.
I think it was sunno that commented they just play house parties and have a lot of fun, no bullshit. sounds heavenly.

that is one small way around the bigger problem. what if everyone had a dozen ways like that to elude the system? you probably could play out as aften as you like.

around here, there is a dude who has run open mic nites since the dawn of time. for a while he got himself set up in a little coffee shop which has a liquor license heh and a small kitchen. it sort of felt like being at a wedding at open mic, but those shop folks were full on a normally dead night and were loving life.

I bet there are lonely head shops that you could talk them into getting some beverages and snacks if they don't have that already and set up a little acoustic hippie corner

host your open mic nites.

I don't know what all... scope events and offer to play those free, i'm sure the possibilities are many if thought about.
every bar has a patio to smoke on...tell me they wouldn't let a band play their patio in the interest of attracting more attention to their bar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 03, 2016, 01:28:12 PM
pseudo-bandpractice was funny. I told my buddy mortay's golden rule of playing noise and he dropped his coffee laughing. (ok he had a whole armload of crap and was on the way out. he saved the drum )

"Do not discuss what you will be playing"

mostly we practiced walking and playing for a different project.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on June 03, 2016, 08:38:45 PM
We player a killer all ages show last week. The guitar player ended up moshing with the kids while taking solos. I was getting my "rock on" with some chick, who was closer to my age a few feet off of the stage. I think that she appreciated my hard rocking ways and beads of sweat.

We also finished up shooting our video last night. I felt like such an ass miming playing and singing.....but I guess that's how you have to do it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on June 03, 2016, 09:48:37 PM
thats cool you shot a video, good advertising!  miming, is that how everyone does it?  I figured everyone still got sound and was really singing, just they switch out the backing track. 


like you see a guitar solo and it looks note for note on the album so I figure he must be getting some sound to help him hit the same notes.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 03, 2016, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: bbottom on June 03, 2016, 08:38:45 PM
We player a killer all ages show last week. The guitar player ended up moshing with the kids while taking solos. I was getting my "rock on" with some chick, who was closer to my age a few feet off of the stage. I think that she appreciated my hard rocking ways and beads of sweat.

We also finished up shooting our video last night. I felt like such an ass miming playing and singing.....but I guess that's how you have to do it.

total milli vanilli action!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on June 04, 2016, 12:56:00 AM
Quote from: mortlock on June 03, 2016, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: bbottom on June 03, 2016, 08:38:45 PM
We player a killer all ages show last week. The guitar player ended up moshing with the kids while taking solos. I was getting my "rock on" with some chick, who was closer to my age a few feet off of the stage. I think that she appreciated my hard rocking ways and beads of sweat.

We also finished up shooting our video last night. I felt like such an ass miming playing and singing.....but I guess that's how you have to do it.

total milli vanilli action!!
yup pretty much
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 04, 2016, 01:43:06 AM
HADES MINING CO.
NORTH AMERICAN TOUR de CRAP 2016.
*6/29 International Noise Conference. Bug Jar. Rochester NY. USA
*7/14 with Uncle Ray / Barbarian / Stoked To Die. The Lair. Buffalo NY. USA
*9/13 with Sedem Minut Strachu / Anal Butt / Scab Addict / American Terrorist. Bug Jar. Rochester NY. USA
*9/30 - 10/2 No London Noise Fest. London, Ontario. CANADA

more shows tba
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 04, 2016, 01:45:25 AM
that was funny. I remember they were called phony baloney after that.

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regarding my 2 clip-on tuners after having them for a while now:

a) overall, fuckin A! they rule.
b) the snark is excellent as a setup tool. dials in like a gauge.  while playing, tuning on the fly, it basically sucks because it is difficult to see unless it is at the correct small range of angle.
c) korg sledgehammer is a pain to use as a setup tool.  it even gets disorienting at a glance whether you are sharp or flat. the housing is symmetrical and can be spun all around.
BUT wow is it awesome on the fly. you know you are flat, so you know you are going to tune up, so all you need is the bright blue line that turns bright green. you can see it across the room and at a wide range of angles because it is an active LED, not a backlit LCD screen like the snark.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 04, 2016, 01:54:06 AM
anyone that has an ipad or iPhone MAY want to check this MOOG model 15 app out.
it is an entire old school actual moog modular all in an app. super smooth, super sexy, and sounds most excellent
the user interface is flat out sick. if anyone REALLY wants to learn modular. here is the king of all, and the app is $30 GTFO!!!!!

I don't have an I-gadget otherwise this would have been on order 5 minutes after I stumbled across it.

this truly is fucking awesome...especially for $30. shit.
here is a demo vid on an ipad, watch the knob tweaks and other subtle stuff



here is more of a review and explaindo

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on June 06, 2016, 01:16:12 AM
started putting the bandcamp up for the Secret Hidden Chamber Orchestra, "channeling the void" album..  The bandcamp deal is layed out very nicely.

watching the realtime sales happening is fucking inspiring. someone bought a pentagram 2 LP set on yellow vinyl for $27. that's the only one I recognized.
what else was cool was someone bought someone's music and overpaid because they must be a fan or relative. $200 is mondo righteous to receive for a single album sale.

I can dig that.

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i'm still trying to finalize the form factor of my 50dB pad to cool off a hot signal going into my camera mic in.  the correct thing to do would be to build a little box with 1/4" F ins and RCA F outs. the cheat thing to do would be to butcher 2 cables into a custom cable with the pad in-line....hmmmmmm...jury still out......

Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 09, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
Well the Universe has tossed another oddball piece of gear onto my lap.

A good friend was coming out to a gig I did Sunday. Said, "I have an amp for you! My neighbor left it on the curb..."

Well that doesn't bode well. But fuck it, who knows.

Solid state Fender Showman 1x15 combo. Finally investigating it now. Weighs a goddamn ton.

It fires right up! Channel 1 works, but Channel 2 (gain channel) does not. Parametric EQ works. Reverb works. Effects loop works to a point, but makes some weird noises.

Will report back my findings when I can do more research.


Update: Rivera era, 1980's

Would fetch $450 if it was working properly... Damn!

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on June 10, 2016, 09:32:41 AM
Are the channels fused seperately?  Might get lucky.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 10, 2016, 09:48:52 AM
I'll look into that. However I am highly suspicious of the missing pot with three clipped wires sticking out, with a sticker labeled "LOTS O' treble"


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on June 10, 2016, 06:04:12 PM
So here is the music video that we shot a few weeks back.  ;D

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on June 11, 2016, 12:45:22 AM
 cool! who is milli and who is vanilli  ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black on June 12, 2016, 02:37:33 PM
Cool song bbottom!

(and a fun video)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on June 12, 2016, 11:14:10 PM
Thanks guys! We got a nice article written about it as well

http://knoxvillemusicwarehouse.com/blog/2016/6/10/mass-drivers-new-music-video-features-the-downtown-arcade#.V12a4xQrLwc=
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on June 13, 2016, 07:03:45 PM
ya its good stuff
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 13, 2016, 11:23:26 PM
Awesome! The Ripple Effect really really likes Ocean of Stars!

"Great Divide" single review:

http://ripplemusic.blogspot.com/2016/06/ocean-of-stars-great-divide.html?m=1


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on July 08, 2016, 03:59:39 PM
Drummer is back in town for a couple months and we are working 2/3 new songs for an ep release.

Using the XXX clean channel with the hyper fuzz and liking it better than my Carvin.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 12, 2016, 01:00:31 PM
The Ocean of Stars Tuesday July residency begins tonight at Beerland! 7:30-9pm!

If you live in or around the Austin area, come on out SRL-ers!

No cover!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 15, 2016, 11:05:41 AM
I'm going to play in a reunion of a screamo punkish band I was briefly in in the nineties called Üblisch. We'll have a very limited time to pull it together. Should be fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 15, 2016, 05:21:45 PM
I just bought an electronic drumset and plan to write and record a new song each weekend :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on July 16, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
Me and my buddy are gonna cruise the pawn shops today, looking for some hidden treasure.  Been working on a new track, so I may post that shit up later for some feedback while it's still being worked on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on July 20, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
That moment when you learn that you've been making some very basic, detrimental mistakes in recording.  Embarrassment and excitement combined.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 22, 2016, 08:27:24 AM
So earlier in the month I was amicably dismissed from Bleu Edmondson.

I haven't been talking about because I am dealing with more pressing shit in my life and I was planning an exit strategy anyway.

He was actually really nice about it (text, go figure). I was relieved.

Yes this band has been my chief source of income and I have been playing guitar as opposed to bass.

But his July/August were looking light as hell, which was going to be a major issue for me (bills don't pay themselves).

Onwards and upwards. Back to being my usual musical whorish self and playing with everyone. It's fun. I like being in control of my own calendar.

And now I can actually book Ocean of Stars on weekends.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 22, 2016, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: black aspirin on July 20, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
That moment when you learn that you've been making some very basic, detrimental mistakes in recording.  Embarrassment and excitement combined.

Examples? (If you want to share). I do think fidelity is overrated (good material is most important). Look at black metal, or any SST recording by Spot, for example. But if mistakes are avoidable, then sure, why not?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 22, 2016, 04:13:57 PM
Those breakthroughs are always game changers m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 24, 2016, 05:19:10 AM
if anyone is being physically torn down from guitar/bass playing but wants to keep making music, switch to keys.  I can play for hours, take a break and get right back to it and never really feel whooped like after a good 2 hr guitar practice. it also is easy on your tennis elbow, carpal tunnel and weird neck/shoulder strains.

I am NOT abandoning guitars, just saying that keys practicing per hour is way less mean to you overall and if axes are just too much, keys are still an option.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 24, 2016, 05:29:20 AM
bbottom, these guys may have some more "moves" for your Mass Driver stage moves arsenal. that guitar player rules IMO




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thx for the video editing info droney.  I was playing with a shareware program called filmora after I studied up on that sony studio13 platinum info and the video you linked, to see what I could see before starting to buy stuff. like how you did. heh..
got it installed and I went right for the split screen stuff. filmora is fully functional except it watermarks any output or buy it for $50, just like the sony.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 24, 2016, 09:36:35 AM
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on July 24, 2016, 11:50:32 AM
cool man, Sony works good for me, with too many big file videos going at once my computer crashes, so I render the split screen video and then splice parts together of videos in Reaper and mix with the final audio.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 24, 2016, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: Danny G on July 24, 2016, 09:36:35 AM
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haha. I wasn't implying anything. I just was noticing that from a perspective of playing both.

BTW, those three guys just ruined everything.
actually those things are fun. 
keyboards cannot replace guitars and guitars cannot replace keyboards. people really need to be able to play both AND drums actually..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 25, 2016, 01:13:30 AM
Mortay,  does your friend, or you, or whomever owns that Moog Voyager want to sell that thing?
those are not cheap, in fact those may be the most expensive small synth there is.

not even sure why I am asking, but you never know what the deal is until you find out..
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on July 25, 2016, 05:04:04 PM
Quotenot even sure why I am asking

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 25, 2016, 10:58:03 PM
Quote from: jibberish on July 25, 2016, 01:13:30 AM
Mortay,  does your friend, or you, or whomever owns that Moog Voyager want to sell that thing?
those are not cheap, in fact those may be the most expensive small synth there is.

not even sure why I am asking, but you never know what the deal is until you find out..

money talks and he is hurting a little financially speaking now but he wouldnt let it go cheap if at all. you want me to ask him?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: jibberish on July 26, 2016, 11:35:16 PM
Quote from: mortlock on July 25, 2016, 10:58:03 PM

money talks and he is hurting a little financially speaking now but he wouldnt let it go cheap if at all. you want me to ask him?

thx, but no. don't trouble your pal.  
I knew that would be out of my range, but I had to check.

like if he had an old lambo in the garage, you just have to find out the scoop just in case.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on July 30, 2016, 11:51:02 PM
The Knoxville Roller Derby team put on a carnival, of sorts, to benefit a dog rescue and some other local organizations. They had fire jugglers, a burlesque show, some aerial trapeze chick (who's body was just dynamite) a bunch of cross dressers, vendors and some bands. Well Mass Driver was the last to go because....we're the best.

The thing took place at the roller girls practice facility. Which is basically a warehouse. It was a million degrees in the place. But we went at it just as hard as we always do. It was the first time that I ever really thought about playing without a shirt on.

It was super awesome. The girls were skating around in front of us while we played. And since I always use my 30ft cable with that band, I was able to run out there with them while they skated around. It was a blast.

The guy who manages them really dug us and is going to have us play during half time at one of their games (apparently they are called "bouts") next season. 

Next Saturday we're playing at the Tennessee Arm Wrestling Championship.....and I am super pumped about it. Two hundred Arm Fighters (that's the actual term) and us bringing the thunder. Then as soon as we're done we're going into surf mode and the Appalachian Surf team is going  to play at a wedding.

Good times!!!

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on August 03, 2016, 02:25:40 AM
Friend of mine scored an Ampeg V4 for $50 at a thrift store. The power tubes are mismatched but he replaced the power cord(fireworks!!!) and it actually works.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 05, 2016, 07:32:43 PM
wow those ampeg v4s sound great, good luck to him!  Nice Mass Driver gigs!

here is my update:

I am getting ready to record a doom song this weekend.  also I want to start some collaborations on bandhub.com in the next week or so.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on August 13, 2016, 10:18:42 AM
Productive month!
Did a ton of research on Tunecore vs CD Baby vs Distrokid.  They are all good but each has their pros and cons.
One of my tracks got picked up by ESPN for some MMA promo stuff. Might even get to do another for them.
Tentative album release on Sept 2 providing all goes well.  Already getting prepared for another release.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 13, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
wow thats awesome, congrats!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Mr. Foxen on August 13, 2016, 03:51:29 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on August 03, 2016, 02:25:40 AM
Friend of mine scored an Ampeg V4 for $50 at a thrift store. The power tubes are mismatched but he replaced the power cord(fireworks!!!) and it actually works.

If he wants to revalve it, don't go for the JJ 7027, they don't work like they should.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 17, 2016, 07:49:14 PM
So this past weekend my buddy flew in from AZ and we got together to have band practice for this screamo thing I played with back in the 90s. Üblisch. First band practice in 18 years.

http://www.valuegeardetails.com/Downloads/01LetMeSleep.mp3

http://www.valuegeardetails.com/Downloads/02YouGotsLipstickOnMyBoBiscuit.mp3

I'm not on these recordings, but this is the music.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 18, 2016, 11:08:44 AM
Ocean of Stars finally got together to work on some new music.

We're still doing the Tuesday residency gig at Beerland and will talk extending through September as well.

Crowds have of course been mostly lackluster haha but for now the point of these is to get us playing regularly and get the existing music tight, so when we meet to rehearse its for new material.

Finally able to juggle schedules for that yesterday. Working in three new pieces of music.

Some much more intricate and darker/weirder/heavier shit to balance out our two newest songs which were more melodic and straight forward.

And of course we can't rehearse again as a band until after the Tuesday gig in 2 weeks, so it'll take some time before it's ready to debut. Will meet with the sax player next week to hash out parts.

The original solo recording of one tune is 9 minutes long...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on August 19, 2016, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: Danny G on August 18, 2016, 11:08:44 AM
Ocean of Stars finally got together to work on some new music


New material is always refreshing for the band - feels like progress. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 19, 2016, 02:08:23 PM
Right?

I'll also have to meet with the bassist and sax player individually to show them parts. Saves time over showing them the parts in the jam room. And also a good excuse to hang out with them outside of a gig/rehearsal :)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 19, 2016, 07:25:48 PM
Actually restrung BOTH of my basses today. Can't remember when I did that last.

It's like planets aligning or some shit.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 19, 2016, 09:36:15 PM
What strings do you use. I usually just grab whatever is available at the time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 20, 2016, 11:59:40 AM
I stupidly tried shit out and found out what I like. Which of course, is usually pricier than cheaper shit, and harder to find in a pinch.

Steel wound/hex core. In order of brand preference:

1- DR (grey box)
2- Dean Markley Blue Steel
3- D'addario Pro Steels


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 24, 2016, 10:48:28 PM
I think I'm done with George L cables.

One went out on my guitar board awhile back. Redid it. Still doesn't fucking work >:(

Fuck it. Replacing them with the cheap shit as they fail.

Yes they sound better. But the cheap shit WORKS.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 25, 2016, 09:53:00 AM
Yeah, fuck the GL cables.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 25, 2016, 12:01:05 PM
Anyone ever mess around with a 6 string bass. Been thinking about getting one for some stupid reason. Are they all active. Can you get one that's passive?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: black aspirin on August 25, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
I think they're only available as passive-aggressive
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 25, 2016, 06:25:14 PM
For George L's, you have to use a new (or very sharp) razor blade. Cut the wire perpendicular and don't distort the round shape (if you use a dull blade, you can distort the shape of the cable). Be sure to jam it (straight) into the jack as far as possible/impale it all the way. Screw the cap on tight, all the way. (That breaks through the cable wrap and creates the connection.) Don't fiddle with the cable a lot. If you do all that, it should be fine. It does require some hand strength, and if I'm making more than a couple cables at a time, I'll rest a little in-between.

Try again, just trim the end off your current cable and re-do.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 25, 2016, 06:50:17 PM
No. Fuck that shit.


No offense to you. Just done with expensive shit with an unacceptably high failure rate.

At this point I should just solder my own patch cables.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 25, 2016, 07:17:57 PM
I've only had problems with George L's once or twice, and I have a bunch. Once, when I was first trying them, and once when I was using a pre-used one that was old and beat up. It takes a little practice, you might have to try making one a couple of times to get the hang of it. They're my favorite cables because I can fit more pedals in tight places, low profile jacks, custom lengths etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 25, 2016, 07:22:13 PM
I've been using them off and on for 10 years.

I initially gave up on them due to high failure rate.

Gave them another shot. Fine for awhile.

Now have had two fail (one on guitar board, one on bass board) in rapid succession. And ALWAYS 60 seconds from downbeat. Never at rehearsals.

"OK, let me fix this broken one real quick." Still didn't work.

Fuck it. I was using them initially because there is a clarity they add to your tone. But they are too fucking delicate. My tone will be fine without them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 26, 2016, 02:17:20 PM
Danny, do you think they're intended for bedroom giggers?  Do you think much equipment that is available is like that?

I ask because you're the only consistently gigging dude I keep up with, and I know you have had your fair share of equipment related problems. I'm curious to know if your experience is unique among gigging musicians playing 10 sets or so a month or more, and how much that might relate to moving your gear so often. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 27, 2016, 08:00:27 AM
Have no clue if they are meant for bedroom use or heavy gigging. Like I said they held up for a few years but starting to fail again.

If I cared about guitar players I'd ask around more what other people use haha ugh. (It's ok, I don't care about bass players either)

I can't afford to constantly drop money on the latest toys (music doesn't pay much unless I'm playing bro country, unfortunately)

If I spend money on something, it better goddamn fucking work.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 27, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
Playing 3 sets with 3 bands tonight, 2 back to back at same venue, another not far but too far to walk/carry shit.

Should be interesting navigating these logistics. And it's the drummers birthday for one band.

Hope nothing breaks...


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
My George Ls are on a pedal board where everything is permanently fixed in place. I wouldn't use them in a situation where you plug/unplug pedals repeatedly, move the cables around around etc. Also, whenever I can possibly use a sturdier cable, I do (if there's enough space, cable is the right size or whatever). The George Ls are indispensable for me, for squeezing a bunch of pedals into a limited area. I don't have a fancy board, it's just pine (no slats with a space underneath). It's possible that the slats type of boards would make George L's less important (you can snake your cables underneath with no obstructions).

Here's an early pic of my junk, before I started using George Ls. Now I can fit like 4-5 more pedals in here since I started using them. My cables are now relatively neat, and out of the way. That makes a difference for me. It probably only matters if you have a whole lot of pedals. Most people probably don't have a need for George Ls. A soldered cable will undoubtedly be sturdier. I'm just saying that Georg Ls have been a big help for me.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on August 27, 2016, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on August 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM


Here's an early pic of my junk...

:o BLOCKED.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 27, 2016, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 25, 2016, 12:01:05 PM
Anyone ever mess around with a 6 string bass. Been thinking about getting one for some stupid reason. Are they all active. Can you get one that's passive?
I use one exclusively. It's a Hondo Dano Longhorn copy that I drilled two extra tuner holes in. I play C to C an octave higher than a standard bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 27, 2016, 06:33:50 PM
Oops, there are already a couple of George L cables in that pic. Since then, there's more pedals and more George Ls.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on August 28, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
I've never used george Ls for fear of what Danny is talking about.  In my opinion, you need a ass soldered joint for reliability over time, stronger if done rjght and less prone to oxidation.  I use the planet waves d'addario patch cables they are affordable and long lasting, howevet they are not customizable like george ls but they deliver everytime all the time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on September 01, 2016, 11:30:26 AM
UGH! After Psycho fest I can't shake this need to get back to making music with people. I really don't know how much time I can devote to doing the IRL, real time way.
Let it be known that I am VERY interested in any sort of long distance recording project situation as vocalist, guitar or bass. I would even do a fly-in for the right situation.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on September 02, 2016, 11:32:21 AM
^^ PM sent.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on September 02, 2016, 01:19:14 PM
At least I think I did. nothing in my outbox. Let me know if you didn't get a pm from me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 02, 2016, 02:04:33 PM
Ruh-roh, Rorge—I just bought a Ditto looper pedal & I'm off 'til the 12th—this could be a seriously dangerous situation...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 02, 2016, 03:32:31 PM
Sweet.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on September 03, 2016, 02:24:23 AM
I'm also open to `guest' on stuff if anyone will have me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 03, 2016, 09:32:39 AM
Sweet.


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 04, 2016, 03:07:49 PM
Lost another George L cable yesterday. This time mid set.

Bad news is I plugged straight in rest of the set and had no tuner or my bass drive.

The good news is that the provided backline was an old SVT into 2 vintage 8x10s so I was plugged straight into that.

Good lord. It was glorious.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 09, 2016, 10:55:12 PM
update: its hard to record a big production video!  with all the audio and video sync'd up.  Its easy to write a riff or do a karaoke song.  but I managed to finish one.  Ok Im a little proud of myself, **pats self on the back**

I just wrote a new song, inspired by the Black Sabbath show I just saw two days ago.  I wrote it and sang and played the guitar, bass, and guitar solo.  Free download here:

https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance/contemplating-the-vastness-of-space-doom-metal

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/earthalliance/contemplating-the-vastness-of-space-doom-metal[/soundcloud]


video:
https://youtu.be/byPYOwDwUls



lyrics:

Contemplating The vastness of space
Destroyers seeking out, lasers beaming through our minds
Im falling out, beyond my dreams
Death ray pointed at me, blinding light pierces through the veil
Im tripping out, slipping into oblivion

A sound of lightning, The high priest the coming
Im levitating, truth unraveling
A cloud of smoke, light form beings arrive
Welcome presence, intake erase

Given gifts of light, given all the eyes can see
Seven flying tigers find the key

Contemplating
The vastness of space
Im Counting down
Vanish without a trace
DESTROYERS MIND ERASE
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 15, 2016, 03:21:56 PM
Been doing an interview with Ripple Music via email.

Let y'all know when it posts \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 17, 2016, 10:23:22 PM
i got to sit in and play drums for anal butt. it was awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 10, 2016, 03:40:06 PM
hehehe...

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on October 10, 2016, 04:40:47 PM
Ive hated chorus pedals every since I bought a vintage Boss CE2 and was never happy with it.  I kept reading how awesome the Small Clone was but never tried one until now, It is Awesome and so sweet sounding got one ordered.  What chorus pedals do you love and hate?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 11, 2016, 10:12:31 AM
I liked the small clone quite a bit.

I used chorus for years and just outgrew it at some point.

Danelectro Cool Cat sounds good too but is 18v. I made good use of the top mounted stereo outputs to use two amps.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 11, 2016, 11:07:57 AM
I am currently learning "Big Bottom" on bass.

8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on October 11, 2016, 04:15:09 PM
Quote from: Danny G on October 11, 2016, 10:12:31 AM
I liked the small clone quite a bit.

I used chorus for years and just outgrew it at some point.

Danelectro Cool Cat sounds good too but is 18v. I made good use of the top mounted stereo outputs to use two amps.


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I'm going to check out that Dano pedal, Ive got the french toadt and the octave down one too love them both.  Im thinking it might be the buffers Boss uses on their pedals because everyony on of them had this brittleness that I cant stand but the same circuit with no buffer or a different buffer seems to always sound better to my ears anyway.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 12, 2016, 01:16:36 AM
This is the large all-metal version. Built like a damn tank.

I should see if mine still works


I used a Boss Chorus Ensemble early to late 90s. It sounded good but sounded like Boss chorus if that makes sense.

The Small Clone is def more rich sounding. But not very sturdy as are a lot of EHX


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on October 12, 2016, 08:26:29 AM
I only use two effects....fuzz and a bassballs. And I bet in the last 10 years I've been through five bassballs. They all break or just stop working (don't get me started about EH quality control)

So I contacted a professional pedal builder that I know and he's going to reinforce and upgrade my current BB with better parts to make the thing last and more reliable. Hells yea!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on October 12, 2016, 09:24:30 AM
Quote from: Danny G on October 12, 2016, 01:16:36 AM
This is the large all-metal version. Built like a damn tank.

I should see if mine still works


I used a Boss Chorus Ensemble early to late 90s. It sounded good but sounded like Boss chorus if that makes sense.

The Small Clone is def more rich sounding. But not very sturdy as are a lot of EHX


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I'll be on the lookout for one of those, I love my liitle cheapy Danos but do not trust them for gigging. 




Quote from: bbottom on October 12, 2016, 08:26:29 AM
I only use two effects....fuzz and a bassballs. And I bet in the last 10 years I've been through five bassballs. They all break or just stop working (don't get me started about EH quality control)

So I contacted a professional pedal builder that I know and he's going to reinforce and upgrade my current BB with better parts to make the thing last and more reliable. Hells yea!

I've pretty much never played an EHX pedal I did not like.  I wish they would build them into a boss style enclosure, I'd gladly pay more for the reliability.....I've really tried to like boss because they are sturdy and easily replaceable but their tone just grates on me.  I bet if boss came out with a line of bufferless true bypass pedals they would sell a ton!
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 12, 2016, 10:58:41 AM
Most EHX pedals would benefit from a re-house and replacing any cheap external pots/switches/wiring.

Hell, see if you can find a kit or find someone to build a military-grade BB clone


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 21, 2016, 01:16:46 AM
When a drummer you admire and respect (and who you've played with a couple of times) you finally see play and realize he plays open instead of overhand, because you were standing in front of him when y'all played.

Mind. Blown.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 08, 2016, 01:12:19 AM
Made my recorded debut as a mandolin player on the new Stupid Drama album. Stoked!

That, and the student model Ibanez mandolin my former lady got me few years back sounds surprisingly good!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 19, 2016, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: Danny G on October 11, 2016, 11:07:57 AM
I am currently learning "Big Bottom" on bass.

8)

;D

The local Tap tribute here played that one again this Halloween.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 19, 2016, 03:26:33 PM
Bad ass. Literally :D

First Ocean of Stars rehearsal since we last played together on Aug 30, in prep for next week Friday. We won't need a second rehearsal.

Holy shit I'm so happy about this band :)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on November 19, 2016, 03:51:18 PM
Moon Curse in Milwaukee last night with 2 bass rigs

(https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15109476_10210828485085451_8266522125339012109_n.jpg?oh=53cfebaf58795655e4118c59c51121df&oe=58C23350)

https://mooncurse.bandcamp.com
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on December 02, 2016, 08:45:59 PM
I took a trip about two hours south today to Asheville NC. I've always wanted to check the town out but I've never really had the opportunity.

From the short time that I was there I thought that it seems like a pretty cool place. The whole place kind of reminds me of the 90's. Cute chicks with skirts and knee socks with funky hair....record stores....lots of coffee shops.

As I was walking around I stumbled upon this

(https://s11.postimg.org/szfbu5pnn/moog.jpg)

I totally forgot that Moog was in Asheville. Even though I'm not into that stuff it was pretty neat and the tour was cool. I didn't realize that all of that stuff is still built there and by hand.

The only "bad" thing about the day, if you want to call it that. Is the drive from TN into NC through the mountains is absolutely insane. My back and neck are sore because I was gripping the wheel so tight
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: amadkins on December 02, 2016, 10:14:36 PM
^ Yankee drivers. Scurred to death of a few turns.  (TN isn't yankee, but I have to use the term as much as possible before the social justice warriors call it hate speech).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on December 02, 2016, 11:31:09 PM
I'm actually from Pennsylvania, so I'm totally a Yankee driver.


And by Yankee driver I mean I know how to merge, use a turn signal, and talk on the phone while I'm driving  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on December 13, 2016, 11:44:45 AM
Our new swag arrived yesterday

(https://s24.postimg.org/ncr1nd9rp/pins.jpg)

(https://s30.postimg.org/jmpcr9kfl/sticker.jpg)

(https://s24.postimg.org/kt3jp0t05/t_shirt.jpg)

(https://s23.postimg.org/fg5gw3yh7/swag.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on December 30, 2016, 07:06:05 AM
Are you the guy in Knoxville?  Can't remember.

I've been to that Moog store. I was instantly overwhelmed. Cool place for sure though.

Asheville is awesome for walking around. Once a year , a show comes through that I want to see and me and my buddy get a hotel room downtown and barhop, eat at Curaté (fucking awesome) go to the show, stop at the Yacht Club for a pitcher of tater tots and stumble back to the room.


I wouldn't want to live there though.  It's a world of extremes.  Left and right, and very little middle mentality.


The Iberico ham plate at Curaté, showcasing three distinct curing ages from left to right:

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on January 19, 2017, 10:21:38 AM
Ocean of Stars just ordered its first run of shirts!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 04, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
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Boom.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on February 04, 2017, 02:57:36 PM
^I'll take a large.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on February 04, 2017, 03:58:48 PM
my updates:

I joined a rock cover band as lead singer, we will probably play out in 2-3 months.  we play some godsmack and alice in chains.

I have been collaborating online (newsflash lol), bandhub is like the second coming for me!!  here are the collabs I need help with from other musicians:

https://bandhub.com/everdrone#/collabs

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on February 07, 2017, 10:55:34 PM
Recording with a new band on Saturday that I've practiced with all of 3 hours.  Fun music.  Hopefully don't take all day recording shit.  They made me a handy little playlist, but the guitar player doesn't tune to anything other than himself so it makes it a bit difficult to match.  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4yvkF7kVifYsR1RpElqUgFtEYvYn8zOH
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 08, 2017, 12:28:22 AM
Hey bbottom did you make the tiger/lightning bolt graphic? That's pretty cool! (Maybe lifted from a fireworks package? Wild guess).

Why no lightning bolts on the band name? (lightning bolts also cool). If you had to pick one or the other, I might have put them on the band name and not the phrase below.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2017, 08:08:34 PM
Anyone aware of any inexpensive flanger pedals that one can in one way or another adjust the volume on? I'm done buying pedals without some type of level/mix/volume knob.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on March 03, 2017, 12:53:22 AM
New band's album finished mastering today & I dig it.  We're playing our first show a week from Saturday (March 11th).  Opening slot at a local spot, but that's alright.

Also got my Mockingbird back from the shop.  Has a brand new set of electronics.  Ripped out the active pre and pickups.  Installed a couple Killing Floor P pickups and new pots.  V/T V/T.  Sounds a lot better, I think.

Before:
http://www.zachhegwood.com/music/bb800/mock_before.mp3

After:
http://www.zachhegwood.com/music/bb800/mock_after.mp3
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 03, 2017, 12:56:10 AM
Got a new band going, kind of like Emerald Douglas but maybe a little darker and less cosmic/stoner and we have a vocalist. So a 3 piece but no bass and instead of two rigs I'm using just the bass side but without the EH Pitch Fork for 1 octave down notes. Epi carved top LP in G#(14-68), Boss Hyper Fuzz > a few psych pedals that I'm using sparsely > Aquilar Tone Hammer preamp > 1,100 watt SS class D power amp > two 600 watt bass 1x15s. No guitar amps, no guitar cabs. The tone is blowing my mind, maybe the heaviest I've achieved so far. The bass speakers are super warm sounding and the FZ2 into Tone Hammer sounds really mean. I think I'll be loud enough live. Super fun. Completely separate from my strictly studio clean vocal doom metal project.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2017, 08:08:34 PM
Anyone aware of any inexpensive flanger pedals that one can in one way or another adjust the volume on? I'm done buying pedals without some type of level/mix/volume knob.

Maybe you can get a blend pedal and keep the pedals you have?

Wouldn't a Boss LS-2 do that? A+B Loop, one loop effected, one loop clean, with the levels mixed to taste?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 05:19:35 AM
I bought a Roland sp404-SX sampler, it hasn't arrived yet. Anybody used one of those?

Anybody here use Logic at a high level? How did you learn it? I see there are classes but they're expensive, like $1,000 for a 2 day weekend seminar. No way I would ever pay that much, I wouldn't even pay that much for two days of one-on-one private instruction.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 03, 2017, 11:04:27 AM
Last night played an Amplify Austin event at the local public access studio. Quick duo set with Stupid Drama on bass and backing vox.

Knew Deann Rene was on the bill (play bass with her) but thought we were going to miss her. But she was setting up solo when I got there so played bass/harmony vox for her too haha :)

Tonight going down to San Marcos to do a radio thing with Heather Bishop (guitar) and talking Ocean of Stars. Then on bass for gig with a blues cat.

Had a gig fall in my lap then fall through for Saturday so will probably go see friends play with an AZ friend in town for the weekend.

Sunday playing with Deann Rene  for her monthly residency at Saxon Pub. May hit up a friend's documentary opening and hit an open jam later that night. But may just call it after the gig.




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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 03, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2017, 08:08:34 PM
Anyone aware of any inexpensive flanger pedals that one can in one way or another adjust the volume on? I'm done buying pedals without some type of level/mix/volume knob.

Maybe you can get a blend pedal and keep the pedals you have?

Wouldn't a Boss LS-2 do that? A+B Loop, one loop effected, one loop clean, with the levels mixed to taste?

Something like that could work but I'm trying to keep things simple. I'm happy with my vibe clone and my delay as they are fully adjustable, don't currently have a flanger though, never owned one actually. Only seeing more expensive units with actual volume knobs on them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
Backing off on "Depth" should give you more subtle flanger results. Maybe you're referring to problems with volume drops/increases, want a boost for solos, etc.

The "Zero Point" flanger from Catalinbread is super subtle. So subtle that people say there's "Zero Point" to using it (you can barely hear it). It's got a cool "reset" momentary switch on it, which brings you back to the beginning of the flange cycle. You can ride that, in time with your riffs, which is nice than a typical flanger that doesn't reflect what you're playing. No other controls on it, just two stomp switches though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 03, 2017, 06:23:58 PM
cool stuff liquidsmoke

my updates:
old cover band collapsed due to bassist working on weekend and others too busy to do otherwise.   I joined a new startup coverband as Axl Rose and we are looking for our Slash and Duff :)  also Im having fun collaborating to do covers with folks on bandhub:

https://bandhub.com/everdrone#/collabs

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 04, 2017, 12:17:59 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
Backing off on "Depth" should give you more subtle flanger results. Maybe you're referring to problems with volume drops/increases, want a boost for solos, etc.

Yes volume is the issue as some modulation effects pedals are too quiet or too loud when switched on.

I like pedals that can do subtle but can also do extreme sounds that dominate the signal path. That can cost real money but not always.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 04, 2017, 12:21:35 AM
Quote from: everdrone on March 03, 2017, 06:23:58 PM
my updates:
old cover band collapsed due to bassist working on weekend and others too busy to do otherwise.   I joined a new startup coverband as Axl Rose and we are looking for our Slash and Duff :)

Almost everyone at least likes Appetite so you should be in for some good times.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 04, 2017, 10:18:37 PM
Almost everyone at least likes Appetite so you should be in for some good times.
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cool thanks brutha we are gathering the slash and bassist 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on March 05, 2017, 09:53:52 PM
We spent the day in the studio recording a song that we're going to make a video for. It turned out really rad


I love my GnL's but my old Fender sounds so good recorded. I've used it on damn near everything that I've ever recorded
(https://s12.postimg.org/65g308jvh/fender.jpg)

The guitar player picked up this 3 watt Carr amp a few days ago. It sounds absolutely fantastic recorded. He used it for his lead and for another guitar track over his JMP. Pure tone zone!

(https://s4.postimg.org/v6ex0do59/carr.jpg)

I used my new Union tube and transistor sub buzz fuzz pedal for a part at the end of the song. The last few times that I recorded I would run the P straight into the big orange head and overdrive the shit out of it.
I wanted to try something a bit different this time. The pedal sounds fantastic. It has huuuuuuuuuge bottom end to it

(https://s14.postimg.org/wtm0qdqvl/fuzz_pedals.jpg)

Guitaro with his sweet ass Les Paul

(https://s9.postimg.org/lfbigfw1b/s_b.jpg)

Me trying out like 6 vocal mics at once before hollering and  dropping some dope rhymes

(https://s18.postimg.org/yttv7pqzt/me_voc.jpg)



We also just got asked to play like three more out of town shows. So there is a ton of shit going on with MD right now!:thumbsup:
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 06, 2017, 10:43:42 AM
Always interesting what works live vs in the studio.

Some of the best recorded bass tone I've ever achieved was my epiphone valve standard 15w guitar amp chassis pushing a lower-end Ampeg 4x10 haha *shrugs*

Stumbled across that out of necessity as that little piece of shit was my only functional amp at the time :D


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 06, 2017, 01:07:38 PM
Nice track pants.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on March 06, 2017, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: mortlock on March 06, 2017, 01:07:38 PM
Nice track pants.

Hell yea! I have like four pairs.  Nothing wrong with rocking in comfort  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on March 13, 2017, 10:24:36 PM
The guy that shoots all of our video stuff made up a teaser for the studio video that he shot last week. It's pretty funny, I'm looking forward to seeing what the completed thing looks like

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 15, 2017, 02:32:30 AM
SXSW 2017

Tomorrow Stupid Drama kicks off Texas Rockfest.
Thursday Ocean of Stars plays Key Bar at 6pm
Friday Stupid Drama plays Key Bar 7pm, then Thunderosa at 311 at 10:30 I think
Saturday Thunderosa somewhere by Houston, then we play Key Bar at 9pm
Sunday play a Meals on Wheels benefit at High Road on Dawson with Heather Bishop. Then Heather and I will also perform with Tim Abbott and Arcana Mundi
Monday will attend Eric Tessmer's last Monday Residency at Friends, and stop in the jam at Beerland for the open jam hosted by the Amplified Heat brothers

Who's in town? Let's grab a beer


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Post by: Lumpy on March 15, 2017, 04:47:46 AM
Holy smokes! That's a lot of running around. You're in 4 bands?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 15, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
5 or 6 haha.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 15, 2017, 08:20:40 PM
Heh, Danny is that guy that fest-goers see and look at each other and say "THAT GUY AGAIN!" all week.

Did you sign your ICE compliance amended contract?  :D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 15, 2017, 09:55:01 PM
Hahaha

Not doing any official events. No concerns for deportation


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on March 16, 2017, 01:43:02 AM
Bunch of stuff... New album out
https://soundslikewords.bandcamp.com/releases

First show last weekend too went super well.

(https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17264685_10158322396215641_4574682225566442727_n.jpg?oh=9f56f48d63ef1b470da189f8359af3c4&oe=5959B353)

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 16, 2017, 01:35:34 PM
Do you find that blocking the women's bathroom causes problems, or raises opportunities?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 20, 2017, 07:43:07 PM
This TC Electronics Mimiq pedal looks kinda cool. Doubles your guitar track in real time. In my experience, some of the other TC Electronics effects are missing something (I've tried the delay, reverb and vibrato mini pedals) but maybe this one will be different. I saw a demo where they were doing Metallica type riffs, and it seemed cool. Chorus thickens your signal too, but adds a cheesy gloss.



Keeley has a pedal like this too, with reverb and chorus options too, but I think I like the straight doubling better... skip to "Brown Sugar" around 4:00 if you're bored.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 29, 2017, 02:59:45 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 20, 2017, 07:43:07 PM
This TC Electronics Mimiq pedal looks kinda cool. Doubles your guitar track in real time. In my experience, some of the other TC Electronics effects are missing something (I've tried the delay, reverb and vibrato mini pedals) but maybe this one will be different. I saw a demo where they were doing Metallica type riffs, and it seemed cool. Chorus thickens your signal too, but adds a cheesy gloss.


Definitely sounds cool. And it's not expensive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 29, 2017, 03:07:09 PM
I don't post on here much anymore but would like to acknowledge that I used to sometimes act like a complete jackass. I'm sorry. I've been making real strides over the last few months with getting my shit together mentally. Having said that, I will continue to fuck up at times but I'm trying to minimize these occurrences. This post is partly a fuck up but at the moment it seems worthwhile.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 29, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
I think I posted on here a few weeks back inquiring about a flanger with a volume knob. This Boss is a solution to the problem of effects that are too loud or too quiet when switched on. An EQ in the loop could provide even more perfection. Old hat to many of you of course.

(https://static.roland.com/assets/images/products/gallery/ls2_gal.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 29, 2017, 04:08:38 PM
I'm a genius.

Quote from: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2017, 08:08:34 PM
Anyone aware of any inexpensive flanger pedals that one can in one way or another adjust the volume on? I'm done buying pedals without some type of level/mix/volume knob.

Maybe you can get a blend pedal and keep the pedals you have?

Wouldn't a Boss LS-2 do that? A+B Loop, one loop effected, one loop clean, with the levels mixed to taste?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 29, 2017, 05:53:47 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 29, 2017, 04:08:38 PM
I'm a genius.

Quote from: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2017, 08:08:34 PM
Anyone aware of any inexpensive flanger pedals that one can in one way or another adjust the volume on? I'm done buying pedals without some type of level/mix/volume knob.

Maybe you can get a blend pedal and keep the pedals you have?

Wouldn't a Boss LS-2 do that? A+B Loop, one loop effected, one loop clean, with the levels mixed to taste?

;D totally forgot about your recommendation. My brain isn't right. May get one soon.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 29, 2017, 06:45:40 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 29, 2017, 05:53:47 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 29, 2017, 04:08:38 PM
I'm a genius.

Quote from: Lumpy on March 03, 2017, 05:13:47 AM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 02, 2017, 08:08:34 PM
Anyone aware of any inexpensive flanger pedals that one can in one way or another adjust the volume on? I'm done buying pedals without some type of level/mix/volume knob.

Maybe you can get a blend pedal and keep the pedals you have?

Wouldn't a Boss LS-2 do that? A+B Loop, one loop effected, one loop clean, with the levels mixed to taste?

;D totally forgot about your recommendation. My brain isn't right. May get one soon.

Hey, Einstein! Your brain's delay pedal is set to 26 days, and it's ON.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 29, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
Ever use a delay at the end of a song and then forget to turn it off before the next one starts? That's super fun live.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 30, 2017, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 29, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
Ever use a delay at the end of a song and then forget to turn it off before the next one starts? That's super fun live.

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 14, 2017, 01:05:13 PM
I've left my loop station on when I shouldn't have.

Was well into the next part and was like "What's that weird noise? Oh."


Played Grizzly Hall last night with Thunderosa. The backline rig was 2 Marshall 4x12s.

God I miss using a full stack.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 14, 2017, 02:21:45 PM
I was playing around last night trying to see if I could pull off a sort of one-man-band kinda thing. Playing one-handed bass or guitar while playing drums. It worked surprisingly well. I'm not sure that is something I want to pursue, but it sure was fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2017, 04:32:27 AM
Sweet.

The EV-B sounded great in the Fender Showman combo.

Sounded even better after the lady who flipped us off for being too loud left and we actually turned up to normal volume.

Added a Creepy Fingers Harikiri Fuzz into the mix. Sounded bad ass. Now need a bigger pedal board to accommodate. Was nice having an extra gain stage.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: zachoff on April 18, 2017, 12:46:13 AM
Apr 20th show...

(https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18033517_10155456533582323_5969432235110815130_n.jpg?oh=14b3d776fee732d4e6205e73787ea3f2&oe=5995E13C)

Apr 27th show...

(https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17903599_1917174338513244_5953560488633535264_n.jpg?oh=d41cd4f5f87602b7ff50281568915630&oe=5983D5F4)

Mooovin' on up!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 27, 2017, 02:08:37 AM
Being single on the road kind of sucks when you don't want to be single.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 28, 2017, 03:03:11 PM
Recently hooked up with a good older bassist who wants to make The Heavy.

Hope springs eternal & all that...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 28, 2017, 03:33:52 PM
I thought it was "Hope springs in turtles" which is kind of the same thing haha


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on April 29, 2017, 05:54:06 PM
My new band Stonechaser just jamed with a friend that plays Harmonica and we all clicked really well together....I think we are just about ready for our first gig.

We are doing 60's/90's Grunge-Psych Fusion.  Our vision is:  If  90's Grunge band traveled back into the 60's in a Time Machine.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on April 29, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on April 29, 2017, 05:54:06 PM
My new band Stonechaser just jamed with a friend that plays Harmonica and we all clicked really well together....I think we are just about ready for our first gig.

We are doing 60's/90's Grunge-Psych Fusion.  Our vision is:  If  90's Grunge band traveled back into the 60's in a Time Machine.

that sounds pretty cool....cool name too!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on April 30, 2017, 01:53:21 AM
Quote from: Danny G on April 27, 2017, 02:08:37 AM
Being single on the road kind of sucks when you don't want to be single.


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Dude... our day jobs are are at desks drinking coffee.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: SpaceTrucker on April 30, 2017, 04:41:39 AM
Blog 1 a

4 26 am

Fuck it all, life as we know it has boiled down to monetary transactions... That nagging thing that insatiable appetite, we are all fiends and our drug is the green glow of green backs. Without we are nothing. With it, anything is at our fingertips...

Running out of pot, the one green thing not full of evil. Everywhere you go there is a price, there is not freedom left, no space that doesen't have a human looking back at you. The point of the whole human race is gone. Nothing left to explore worth going to. no wilderness to hide. Hell NO FUCKING WOODS at all!!! Google earth is scary when you get past the green and see its just someone elses lawn! Ban THEM!! the end of global warming, if we just didn't cut our grass and let old growth take over we wouldn't have to worry too hard about climate change...

and WOMEN don't even get me started on this subject, I will make enemies of them all. Never in my life have I seen a group so obsessed with being right. Can't talk to anyone anymore

DDOon't know why.. Just not fast enough, the curiosity soon fades to a bored tedium. The eyes glaze over when it's known they might have to listen or even use that brain we have... Life is now a digital collection of photos and  detailed bad taste.  Is it not odvious we are being segregated to the lifestyle imposed by marketing? You will fall in line to a type, do as that type does, do not stray from the type and you will have a life, Your a rocker, you will buy what they do, you won't even see what they don't. Not with our new algoriddims. Its like reggea Mixed with algebra!! BRO its the new YOGA for your MIND!
4321 have a blast!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 30, 2017, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: Pissy on April 30, 2017, 01:53:21 AM
Quote from: Danny G on April 27, 2017, 02:08:37 AM
Being single on the road kind of sucks when you don't want to be single.


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Dude... our day jobs are are at desks drinking coffee.


I know. Feel like I'm letting you guys down.

Lemmy would have scolded me, or made fun of me at least.


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 30, 2017, 10:56:32 AM
Basically was playing some private party thing in Ft Worth for a company somehow affiliated with apartments or some shit.

Anyway, free booze. Lots of people, huge place. Staying the night. Had already messaged an area lady friend about meeting up afterwards, still haven't heard from her.

Lots of women there. Lots.

And as I'm walking around checking out the scene, quickly realized that I wasn't particularly interested in any of them, and they didn't seem particularly interested in me either, which I was fine with.

If it was hundreds of cool rocker women instead, different story entirely.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on April 30, 2017, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: bbottom on April 29, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on April 29, 2017, 05:54:06 PM
My new band Stonechaser just jamed with a friend that plays Harmonica and we all clicked really well together....I think we are just about ready for our first gig.

We are doing 60's/90's Grunge-Psych Fusion.  Our vision is:  If  90's Grunge band traveled back into the 60's in a Time Machine.

that sounds pretty cool....cool name too!


Thanks, hoping to have a decent recording to share soon too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 09, 2017, 09:40:55 AM
Experimenting with adding a delay pedal to my Ocean of Stars rig.

Instead of adding to my main board, put it on auxiliary board and only coming through second amp.

Holy David Gilmour, Batman!

Looking for ways to keep noise/sound/loops going between songs so the transitions between them are seamless and the music never stops.

It's not really a "chat with the crowd" project either, and I never know what to say anyway haha. Problem solved


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 09, 2017, 05:40:03 PM
Silence in between songs can be a good palate-cleanser (but also leaves room for hecklers).
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Post by: Danny G on May 09, 2017, 08:45:48 PM
True dat, and true dat.

Guess will see what sounds good and feels best when we finally get around to rehearsing again :)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 10, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
A chaos pad might be the ticket danny. I think they'll loop or at least decay a long ways out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 12, 2017, 12:42:32 AM
Man the Harakiri does some weird shit in reaction to a wah pedal.

Gets crazy feedback rocked all the way back, sounds like a ring modulator rocked all the way forward. Cool :)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 15, 2017, 08:38:25 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170516/f38fced0c1cb665bc7b10a301335d5f0.jpg)

Bout to build a splitter box for myself and get the EP Booster clone working.

Finding that I don't need a true ABY box.

So if I'm going to rewire the one I got to do what I need it to do, I might as well just build one that's better and more roadworthy.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 16, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
Any of you folks play trumpet or tried to learn? I've had one sitting in my storage for years. I just pulled it out, oiled the valves and dicked around on it for a bit. I want to try and learn. I have a long way to go before it sounds even remotely `like music. Wind instruments have always eluded me, but damn it I  wanna learn. The trumpet will do, but I'd really like to try trombone eventually.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 17, 2017, 11:35:48 AM
Get a wireless clip on mic system and run it through delay and a wah pedal \m/

Probably cheaper than lessons in the long run


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 17, 2017, 11:36:49 AM
So the EP booster didn't work when housed, same problem I had with it last year.

Will scrap it for now and build a splitter box.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 17, 2017, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on May 16, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
Any of you folks play trumpet or tried to learn? I've had one sitting in my storage for years. I just pulled it out, oiled the valves and dicked around on it for a bit. I want to try and learn. I have a long way to go before it sounds even remotely `like music. Wind instruments have always eluded me, but damn it I  wanna learn. The trumpet will do, but I'd really like to try trombone eventually.

I played trombone for about 5 years, and my brother still plays trumpet. In a way, trombone is easier because there are lower expectations for what the instrument can do. The trombone's bigger mouthpiece may be easier too. The slide positions aren't too complicated. If you like the sound of the trombone better, then play the trombone. Your level of interest is more important than anything else. There's not a lot of crossover except using your facial muscles and breath. BTW they have cheap plastic trombones now, and they're supposed to be pretty good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 17, 2017, 10:30:40 PM
The thing is I own a trumpet already and I'm pretty broke lately. It's beat to shit but it seems to work. I do want to eventually get and learn trombone. I have way more chance of that happening than vibraphone or marimba which are also on my bucket list of instruments to learn to play. A kid's xylophone may be as close as I ever come to that.

I should clarify....I'm sure I could learn to play marimba or vibes. I know enough percussion and piano to get me started. I just don't know how I'd ever have them around to actually play. I will have to be content to worship Ruth Underwood.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 17, 2017, 11:00:04 PM
From what I remember, be ready for some sore lips. Also, emptying the spit valve regularly is pretty key.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 18, 2017, 08:55:51 PM
Those plastic trombones are like $150 bucks. The slide is the most important part (kinda) so when buying older trombones, you gotta be careful that the slide isn't dinged or bent (they are fragile). Search for trombones at Musician's Friend and sort by Price. Even a student model (metal or plastic) will be good for getting you started. Or look in pawn shops, Craigs List, just make sure the slide travels easily, all the way to 'full reach'.

Takes a while to build up your "lip" aka embouchure. Practice sessions should be short until you build up some endurance in your face.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on May 19, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
He doesn't want a $150 trombone because he already has a trumpet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 19, 2017, 02:12:16 PM
Do the Dizzy Gillespie thing and puff your whole face out


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 19, 2017, 02:15:24 PM
Hitting the road with Thunderosa today, west Texas this weekend en route to AZ for next week. Will report back shenanigans as they occur.

If any of y'all live along the way hit me up.

Fredericksburg TX
San Angelo TX
El Paso TX
Tucson AZ
Phoenix AZ
Flagstaff AZ
Bisbee AZ


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 19, 2017, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 19, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
He doesn't want a $150 trombone because he already has a trumpet.

He said he'd rather play the trombone. Cut to the chase. Starting on the trumpet won't be a shortcut to the trombone. I don't think $150 is an issue, maybe Im wrong though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on May 25, 2017, 06:53:09 PM


   Spotted a Les Paul I really liked the finish on....and discovered it has a G-force tuner block on the headstock.

    :-\

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 26, 2017, 01:56:00 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 19, 2017, 04:02:33 PM
Quote from: RacerX on May 19, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
He doesn't want a $150 trombone because he already has a trumpet.

He said he'd rather play the trombone. Cut to the chase. Starting on the trumpet won't be a shortcut to the trombone. I don't think $150 is an issue, maybe Im wrong though.

$150 is totally the issue. The reason I started messing around with the darn thing in the first place was money.
I had been grabbing some items from my storage unit to sell, because I'm kinda broke lately. I'd kinda forgot about the trumpet. I knew it wouldn't fetch me much due to it's condition but thought it would be fun to try and learn to play.
If I had the $150 to spare you damn well can bet a trombone is really low on the list of things it would go towards.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 26, 2017, 08:17:57 AM
Bummer
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 26, 2017, 03:30:39 PM
Yeah I need to come up with money fast. It pains me to even think about this but I've got to start selling off gear.
For instance thinking I may have to park with my V4. What's the going rate for one of those these days? Not what you'd like to pay for it, but what they seem to be going for?
I don't think I could part with it for anything but top dollar.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 26, 2017, 03:33:17 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on May 26, 2017, 03:30:39 PM
Yeah I need to come up with money fast. It pains me to even think about this but I've got to start selling off gear.
For instance thinking I may have to part with my V4. What's the going rate for one of those these days? Not what you'd like to pay for it, but what they seem to be going for?
I don't think I could part with it for anything but top dollar.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on May 26, 2017, 03:34:08 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on May 26, 2017, 03:30:39 PM
Yeah I need to come up with money fast. It pains me to even think about this but I've got to start selling off gear.
For instance thinking I may have to park with my V4. What's the going rate for one of those these days? Not what you'd like to pay for it, but what they seem to be going for?
I don't think I could part with it for anything but top dollar.


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Dont do it, some of the biggest mistakes in my life were selling gear.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 26, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
I'm not making much use of it anyway. I'm going to have to face so much more painful sacrifices if I don't.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 27, 2017, 11:52:05 AM
Quote from: neighbor664 on May 26, 2017, 03:30:39 PM
Yeah I need to come up with money fast. It pains me to even think about this but I've got to start selling off gear.
For instance thinking I may have to park with my V4. What's the going rate for one of those these days? Not what you'd like to pay for it, but what they seem to be going for?
I don't think I could part with it for anything but top dollar.


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I dunno for sure, but a ballpark guess is $700 if it's been tuned up recently, but you can confirm with Ebay, Reverb and Craigslist searches.

I thought you've been working a lot, flying all over doing trade shows. Sorry you have to deal with that. I agree selling equipment is a drag, but if you're not using it, then maybe it's okay. I hate having unused equipment around (and I have some which I should sell).  Also, equipment comes and goes. Tube amps need to be played, if they sit on the shelf unused, that's not good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 27, 2017, 09:43:27 PM
^ One thing that has really contributed to my plight is that up until the middle of last year I used to get advances for my expenses for those trips. I'd often drop the whole check into a CC payment. The new ownership now requires me to lay it out and then won't reimburse me till at least the pay period following an event. In addition to that I got stuck with a few bills from week long stays at expensive hotels. By the time I got reimbursed the damage to my finances had spread like cancer. my rent and cost of living have gone up considerably too. Stupid tech boom.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 31, 2017, 08:37:02 PM
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Man. I am really digging this 2-amp setup.

I'll start using it when I can get away with it.

Will be doing a one-off show with Bleu Edmondson this Saturday, covering all guitar (back in the day I was one of 2 guitar players).

I'll be using the 2-amp setup with the loop station too. Haha this is gonna be awesome sounding!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on June 01, 2017, 10:19:21 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on May 27, 2017, 09:43:27 PM
^ One thing that has really contributed to my plight is that up until the middle of last year I used to get advances for my expenses for those trips. I'd often drop the whole check into a CC payment. The new ownership now requires me to lay it out and then won't reimburse me till at least the pay period following an event. In addition to that I got stuck with a few bills from week long stays at expensive hotels. By the time I got reimbursed the damage to my finances had spread like cancer. my rent and cost of living have gone up considerably too. Stupid tech boom.

That sounds bloody awfully! How can they justify making an employee front his own expense money? Your the one making them money!  Goddamn cheap ass trumpster vampire capitalists!!!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on June 02, 2017, 05:21:08 AM
^If you follow the money all the way to the top, it is ultimately everyone's favorite corporate douchebags holding the purse strings. Rhymes with Soldmman Gachs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 02, 2017, 10:15:25 AM
Old Man Yaks?


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 02, 2017, 11:03:32 PM
Oh wow. Might be doing a show end of July in south of France with Bleu Edmondson.

Hell yeah!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on June 03, 2017, 01:03:06 AM
Quote from: neighbor664 on June 02, 2017, 05:21:08 AM
^If you follow the money all the way to the top, it is ultimately everyone's favorite corporate douchebags holding the purse strings. Rhymes with Soldmman Gachs.

Man thats shitty, Im sure many more of us will be feeling the boot of capitalism on our necks before captain cheeto is through.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 05, 2017, 10:30:51 AM
So looks like TRIO BRAVO, a side project/super group with Marc Reddix on drums and bass/guitar/vocal duties by Jen Leigh and myself switching off, might actually be happening.

Basically we've been talking for months about putting together a for fun side project and making a little extra bread on the side with it.

But also do it to blow people's fucking minds. Originals, jams, mutated covers. Jen and Marc are truly amazing players and I'm glad they consider me amongst their ranks. All three of us sing, too.

I may see if the B3 player in Jen's solo band plays bass with his feet. That would allow Jen and myself to play guitar at the same time o_0

I'll dig up some links on Jen and Marc.

Sludgelord3000's heavy soul band Sugarfly was recently looking for a guitar player (Jen was considering moving back to LA). I recommended her and the job was hers had she moved, sight unseen, no need for an audition. That kind of player.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 05, 2017, 10:35:17 AM
Here's Jen with her band:

https://youtu.be/k6JJ6thZ4aU


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 05, 2017, 12:38:02 PM
Good shit. Obviously a fan of jimi and srv.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 05, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
She is hands down thee funkiest white girl I've ever met :)

Style wise we'd like to take this project in more a heavy groove stoner psych sound.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 16, 2017, 01:43:22 PM
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Me, also me.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on June 19, 2017, 03:22:59 PM
I've got a black Big Muff and a green Small Stone that are in pieces. Wooden boxes included. They had always worked before being disassembled with the intent of upgrading the stock jacks and switches. Nothing has been removed or modified from the boards. I never got around to it and now am feeling too lazy and in need of $ to do it.
Make me a reasonable offer+shipping and they can be yours.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 21, 2017, 01:31:32 PM
Chester's gorilla, she go, "Oink!"
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 21, 2017, 11:05:24 PM
Quote from: RacerX on June 21, 2017, 01:31:32 PM
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does that mean sandia man is back?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on June 22, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
Chester's gorilla, she go, "Quack."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 25, 2017, 11:32:34 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170625/46f70f9c08c57f0608afb3ed9e83be12.jpg)

So yeah my Thursday was pretty awesome :)

Adrian Conner at Empire Control Room opening for Zeparella


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 26, 2017, 10:45:40 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=181&v=9UEEj3--pbs (https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=181&v=9UEEj3--pbs)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 19, 2017, 10:25:47 PM
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on July 23, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Mass Driver played halftime at a roller derby game this past weekend and it was an absolute blast! There were like 3 or 400 people there including a bunch of kids that rocked out with me.

(https://s22.postimg.org/upkeaxbox/rd1.jpg)

(https://s21.postimg.org/vy46isarr/rd2.jpg)

(https://s11.postimg.org/lujlnlc2b/roller_team.jpg)


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on July 24, 2017, 11:12:49 AM
Bad ass \m/,

Thunderosa hit the studio yesterday evening to demo out two new songs for an interested record label.

Blew through main tracks (drums, singer's guitar, me on bass) live in two takes.

Then I switched to guitar and nailed both songs on my end in one take. Did a quick overdub of a chord I missed haha, but other than that did the entire songs, rhythm and leads, in one shot.

Holy shit. Feeling very on top of my game.

Can't wait til these are done (singer cutting vocals Wednesday), they already sound crazy fucking good o_O


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 24, 2017, 10:28:15 PM
Quote from: bbottom on July 23, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Mass Driver played halftime at a roller derby game this past weekend and it was an absolute blast! There were like 3 or 400 people there including a bunch of kids that rocked out with me.

That is super awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on August 24, 2017, 06:36:35 PM
I have played 3 shows with my Guns N Roses tribute.  I am Axl.  its going good!  yay :)


playing with Dokken and Motley Crue tributes this weekend

give us a like :)          https://www.facebook.com/GUNSOFTEXASGNRTRIBUTE/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on August 26, 2017, 07:39:20 PM
Good interview in Tape Op with Greg Wilkinson at Earhammer Studios.
http://tapeop.com/interviews/106/greg-wilkinson/

Did both Damnweevil albums at Earhammer. Greg and Sal on the 1st, just Sal on the 2nd.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on August 30, 2017, 11:59:51 AM
Kal-El is opening for Brant Bjork in Stavanger, Norway Sep.27th!

This should be fun  :)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on August 31, 2017, 12:11:21 AM
Follow the smoke toward the new Big Muff `reissue'.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYcRiBJlPv8/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 03, 2017, 12:44:41 PM
Drop out of life with bass in hand?


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on September 09, 2017, 08:56:45 PM
I updated my DOOM BAND logo:

check it out and give us a like :)   here it is:     

https://www.facebook.com/earthallianceband/

ROCK ON!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 12, 2017, 11:21:34 PM
i need some advice.

i want to take a live recording of a band thats all on one track and break it up into many tracks. what do you guys recommend. i prefer it to be free and easy to use. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on September 13, 2017, 01:03:35 AM
Quote from: mortlock on September 12, 2017, 11:21:34 PM
i need some advice.

i want to take a live recording of a band thats all on one track and break it up into many tracks. what do you guys recommend. i prefer it to be free and easy to use.

Audacity

http://www.audacityteam.org/download/ (http://www.audacityteam.org/download/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dave J on September 13, 2017, 08:41:16 PM
+1 for Audacity.

I record all our band practices (although I multi-track now, I started out with one mic in the room) and then cut the stuff we want and make mp3s.  Free and easy to use.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 14, 2017, 04:57:16 AM
Reaper, Garage Band, Sound Forge (I think that's the name). The cheapest and easiest way is to ask a friend to do it for you.  :P

At first, I thought you were asking how to separate the bass, guitar and drum parts (impossible).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on September 17, 2017, 02:20:53 AM
I've got a pretty noobish question.  I'm wanting to get an ABY pedal.  I understand the splitting capabilities, but I'm having difficulties visualizing how I would make my signal path to run two amps.  Basically, I'm only looking to run one amp dirty, and the other clean.  I'm also looking to run certain effects on one amp and the other. Does the ABY become my "conductor", as in I plug my guitar into the in/out, use the a circuit to run the effects I need, and the same with B?  Am I looking at this all wrong?  Clarification would be great!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 17, 2017, 02:30:46 AM
It sounds like you have it right... it doesn't sound like you're confused (?)

The Boss LS-2 is cheap (like 50-60 bucks used) and is a Swiss Army knife (versatile). But lots of pedals have a Clean Out or two outputs, look at the pedals you already have, you might not need anything else. Especially if both amps are always on.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 17, 2017, 10:55:35 AM
When using two amps I have my loop station and delay only going to one amp.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 17, 2017, 01:04:03 PM
I guess I didn't understand the question, sorry.

It might help you to make a diagram of what you want. Or even a list
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 17, 2017, 07:43:03 PM
Quote from: johnny problem on September 17, 2017, 02:20:53 AM
I've got a pretty noobish question.  I'm wanting to get an ABY pedal.  I understand the splitting capabilities, but I'm having difficulties visualizing how I would make my signal path to run two amps.  Basically, I'm only looking to run one amp dirty, and the other clean.  I'm also looking to run certain effects on one amp and the other. Does the ABY become my "conductor", as in I plug my guitar into the in/out, use the a circuit to run the effects I need, and the same with B?  Am I looking at this all wrong?  Clarification would be great!

There are a couple of ways you can use an ABY.

Up front, you can split your guitar through two different effect chain signals, each to a dedicated amp. Then you can use one, the other, or both amps. Not as commonly used, but for a clean/dirty setup, if you want a different effects chain for each, it's the way to go, but get ready for a lot of tap-dancing.

The "usual" way: you send one guitar signal through a single effects chain into the ABY, using it to run one, the other, or both amps.

Grounding issues are possible either way you go, get an ABY with a ground switch. If it's buzzing, flip the switch.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 18, 2017, 08:35:42 AM
Also, I'm wondering now whether you just need a A/B pedal.

Do you need both amps to run at once, or just either/or?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: tombhex on September 20, 2017, 05:04:29 PM
It sounds to me like they're asking "If I am running A+B (Y), am I then able to run effects into the clean amp and separate effects into the dirty amp" to which the answer is a simple "yep."

I do this myself, it'll work exactly how you're envisioning it. Guitar > Tuner > ABY box > SIGNAL TO CLEAN / SIGNAL TO DIRTY > amp. You can run a verb and a delay in front of the clean amp, using the signal from output A, and then maybe just have a noise suppressor for example in the signal chain from output B into the dirty amp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 27, 2017, 08:44:45 PM
Speaking of recording, can anyone recommend a phone app that allows one to adjust the input level down enough to record band practice without clipping? Such a thing would be great as I have the dropbox app on my iPhone and it's super easy to upload files.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on September 27, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
The Band-aid over the mic holes app might work.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on September 28, 2017, 10:59:06 AM
Backstage last night. Fun times.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 28, 2017, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: RacerX on September 27, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
The Band-aid over the mic holes app might work.

Hmmmm something like that could work.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on September 30, 2017, 07:11:01 AM
That would work.  An app that reduces the mic level won't really work because the mic itself is being pushed to the max. Reducing a signal that's already clipped by the time it makes it to processing would yield a clipped signal that happens to be quieter.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 30, 2017, 04:23:53 PM
Use a bandaid which is meant for drop tuning.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 01, 2017, 02:19:24 AM
I drop tune down to H flat so it will have to be super thick I suppose.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: liquidsmoke on October 01, 2017, 03:01:58 AM
Quote from: Pissy on September 30, 2017, 07:11:01 AM
That would work.  An app that reduces the mic level won't really work because the mic itself is being pushed to the max. Reducing a signal that's already clipped by the time it makes it to processing would yield a clipped signal that happens to be quieter.

That makes sense.

Found some stuff, wish I would have known about these types of mics years ago-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=151&v=--FVSsSTTeM

https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/handy-recorder/zoom-iq7-professional-stereo-microphone-ios

https://www.zoom.co.jp/products/handy-recorder/iq6-xy-stereo-microphone-ios

http://www.micreviews.com/guides/top-10-best-ios-microphones

Some can handle 120 or 125 db. Perfect.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 11, 2017, 11:25:32 AM
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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 11, 2017, 05:25:51 PM
Bout to start watching YouTube tutorials until Danimal Johnson (Hank III, Jackson Taylor etc etc etc) gets back from Vegas.

Carter Starter 10-string pedal steel.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 13, 2017, 04:34:49 PM
Carvin is closing its doors. 71 years.  Damn.

https://carvinaudio.com/blogs/news
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on October 14, 2017, 12:07:40 PM
Im Axl Rose in my band.  Check us out:  https://www.facebook.com/GUNSOFTEXASGNRTRIBUTE/

compilation:


Rocket Queen


Mr Bbrownstone
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 18, 2017, 12:10:58 PM
I'm currently living one of those arthritis drug commercials—the "before the drug" part—freakin' Groundhog Day-level reoccurrence.

Every day it gets harder to play through the pain. I'm leaning HARD on turmeric extract, NSAIDs and slide guitar.

/whinyblogging
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 18, 2017, 02:24:41 PM
Old timers i used to work with swore to me that localized application of WD-40 helped. I'll leave it to you to decide if you want to try it or not- read the label, but if you do, i'd be interested in knowing if its hogwash.  These same guys swore that carrying a buckeye nut in your pocket got rid of hemorrhoids.  Never tried either.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 18, 2017, 02:33:10 PM
heh—that made my day, Pissy!

I'm not quite desperate enough to try that (yet), but I may give the CBD extract topicals a whirl.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: johnny problem on October 19, 2017, 04:20:49 AM
Thank you for the answers, and my apologies for just seeing them now.

Ultimately, I'd be running both amps at once.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 19, 2017, 09:27:16 AM
Put the reverb tank back into the Fender Showman (didn't think was working).

It works!

Finally fired up the pedal steel through it. Damn. Instant great tone.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 20, 2017, 03:30:03 PM
^
Sweet! Showman should be a bitchin' steel amp.

My practice amp just stopped working—a Blackstar HT-5. Turned it on, heard a short, faint, fart of static & then nothing.

Pre and power tubes seem to be glowing, and there's apparently no fuse, so I guess that's not blown. Gonna try replacing the preamp tube first, and the power tube next if that doesn't work...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on October 20, 2017, 03:43:57 PM
In Phoenix this weekend for Lost Lake. How is it this hot in October? My fragile Chicago body can't handle this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 24, 2017, 07:40:18 PM
I picked up an irving ca made 2x15 randall bass cab. it sounds pretty great. tight and punchy. tighter and punchier than I expected a 2x15 to be. might become my main live cab. its on wheels which is a big bonus.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 24, 2017, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 24, 2017, 07:40:18 PM
I picked up an irving ca made 2x15 randall bass cab. it sounds pretty great. tight and punchy. tighter and punchier than I expected a 2x15 to be. might become my main live cab. its on wheels which is a big bonus.

You can ride it to the gig, no more taxis.

I'm trying to set up a show for my friend's band, the clubs I've contacted don't even reply, which makes me want to kill people.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dangling Fury on October 26, 2017, 08:47:42 AM
Been a while since I posted but I'll m always lurking. Ran across a splawn 412 small blocks 25 at right around 400$. I'm planning on checking it out this weekend just wondering if any y'all played thru one? Doom thru a Laney 100 pro tube. I have a Marshall JCM 900 cab that sounds fine but I've been playing thru it for 20 years like to try something else. I suspect it will prob sound similar to the JCM.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 27, 2017, 12:23:23 AM
So the current drummer of one of my main projects has come out as a flat earther.

*facepalm*

Not sure if we should keep him on so I can lead him back to reason, or fire him now so I don't kill him.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 27, 2017, 12:31:42 AM
We got deep South Texas dates next weekend. That's gonna be an interesting ride.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: SpaceTrucker on October 27, 2017, 05:02:02 PM
^ just tell him the  truth that its a world map type causing confusion due to it being rather awesome for military use.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 07, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
Did the weekend with flat earth drummer. He didn't drive down with us (stayed for an extra beach day, I had a Sunday gig).

We got along fabulously and we even roomed with each other. He played heroically and the shows were great (seriously amazing chops on this cat).

The subject never once came up :)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 07, 2017, 10:01:47 PM
The venue (patio gig in Brownsville TX) went live for most of a set:

https://www.facebook.com/dannygrocks/posts/10212697206299021


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 07, 2017, 10:14:01 PM
Like seriously, watch that whole video if yall can.

The 6/4 breakdown part at 6:25 is worth it. Then he does a drum solo. A long one. Then we blow everyone's minds going into "Goodbye Blue Sky" by Floyd.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dave J on November 07, 2017, 10:37:50 PM
That was a killer set, Danny. You all sounded great. That drummer is really good, throughout the set, not just talking about the drum solo. (I'm not big on long drum solos so I did skip parts of it). "Goodbye Blue Sky" was awesome as well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 07, 2017, 11:41:54 PM
Thanks man!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 12, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
I don't know if yall ever visit the FB group Pedalboards of Doom, but one of the moderators is a total cock.

Haha ugh. Fuckin people


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 20, 2017, 11:12:06 AM
Recently crossed off my music career checklist:

- "Totally dickfinger and butcher the intro of 'What If God Was One of Us' by Joan Osbourn in front of the Mayor of Austin."

:D


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 26, 2017, 08:29:40 PM
So things are actually going really well (so far) with the flat earther drummer.

Being that we like each other immensely as people, we can actually talk about shit instead of regressing to insults.

And even if we don't convert the other we can at least investigate what the other believes and if we don't agree we can just make each other laugh.

This is actually a good thing. Gives me the opportunity to see why these people believe what they do and I can ask really specific and tough questions without being called a "sheeple."


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 02, 2017, 10:19:01 PM
A month or so into trying to learn pedal steel:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171203/32c175b70e0b4900247746c6fc316d12.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Bro. Righteous on December 03, 2017, 09:44:43 AM
^Ha!
Throw a wah on it and jam!

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 03, 2017, 06:02:47 PM
Fuck haha.

Drums are easier than pedal steel. Drums, man.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on December 14, 2017, 05:51:33 PM
HUH?!?!?!?
???
https://www.guitarpedalsonline.com/2017/12/14/how-to-sound-like-kyuss-on-guitar-on-a-budget/ (https://www.guitarpedalsonline.com/2017/12/14/how-to-sound-like-kyuss-on-guitar-on-a-budget/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 14, 2017, 05:55:49 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on December 14, 2017, 05:51:33 PM
HUH?!?!?!?
???
https://www.guitarpedalsonline.com/2017/12/14/how-to-sound-like-kyuss-on-guitar-on-a-budget/ (https://www.guitarpedalsonline.com/2017/12/14/how-to-sound-like-kyuss-on-guitar-on-a-budget/)

It's a stupid clickbait website, they had one for Throbbing Gristle (etc). Yawn... I mean LOL!!!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Roodbaerd on December 15, 2017, 03:07:15 AM
Quote from: neighbor664 on December 14, 2017, 05:51:33 PM
HUH?!?!?!?
???
https://www.guitarpedalsonline.com/2017/12/14/how-to-sound-like-kyuss-on-guitar-on-a-budget/ (https://www.guitarpedalsonline.com/2017/12/14/how-to-sound-like-kyuss-on-guitar-on-a-budget/)
Thanks man! Now I know how to dress like the guys from Kyuss!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on December 15, 2017, 04:23:07 AM
When the sound guy and door guy make $50, and the musicians make $10
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: spookstrickland on December 16, 2017, 04:11:28 PM
Got a new project going its in its early stages but the chemistry is good!  Going for a Brian Jonestown Massacre kind of sound with some Stoner Doom influences.... just need a tambourine player like Joel Gion.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on January 06, 2018, 01:54:03 PM
I sold my last "Big Iron" amp (which was a 50 watt JCM800 2204 clone). I haven't really been jamming with anyone in a while since I had to move to a different city and I no longer having an appropriate place to get her juices flowing. I hate just having small amps but it's probably for the best until I can get a house one day


Before I sold it, I finally figured out the way to get more bass and not as peaky of a midrange in that amp which should have been obvious, speakers.

The 65 watt celestions were apparently designed for JCM800's sound help with their bright nature. I was lucky enough to plug into a cab that had them at a local music store. It was totally the tone I was looking for, dark but still could sit get in a band mix.

Otherwise, I have been really re-vamping my playing. The big thing I have been focusing on is really just getting a better handle on my rhythm, make sure I have more of a groove. Listening to old Sabbath, ZZ Top, and Hendrix seems to help with this.

I also have started to try and really write some stuff again. Nothing mind-blowing but it gets the creative juices flowing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 27, 2018, 09:31:15 PM
If you play slide guitar, these are the SHIT. The cutaway, the internal taper, and the dead-finger rest combine to make these the best I've ever used. I bought an aged brass pinky slide for blues and a middle finger glass for rock. Now I don't use any of my old slides anymore.

https://www.therockslide.com (https://www.therockslide.com)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 28, 2018, 05:48:49 PM
Don't try to play heavy music with a guy who plays Chapman Stick through a Line 6 pod.

(https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/more-you-know.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Bro. Righteous on January 28, 2018, 09:06:11 PM
Ha^ - our running gag would always be...dude uses a Roland Cube that ain't heavy and gay as fuck,
what, you wanna go around making fart sounds all day - that's some weak-ass shit.
....poor, poor Roland Cube wanker...never understood, never meant to be, a disgrace, go back to becoming
a burgeoning livid ass lawyer or accountant. Your services are not needed here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on January 29, 2018, 10:00:51 AM
Skronky.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: showdown on January 29, 2018, 03:28:47 PM
Kal-El is going over the pond for a few west coast dates with Wizzerd this spring, this should be fun!

3/31 - Seattle, WA @ Substation w/Year of the Cobra, Witch Ripper
4/1 - Eugene, OR @ Old Nick's Pub w/White Wail
4/2 - Sacramento, CA @ Blue Lamp w/TBA
4/4 - Los Angeles, CA @ The Viper Room w/OLD BLOOD, Mountain Tamer
4/5 - Pacifica, CA @ Winters Tavern w/The Bad Light
4/6 - Eureka, CA @ The Siren's Song Tavern w/FHOG
4/7 - Portland, OR @ World Famous Kenton Club w/Stoner, Sunless

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on January 29, 2018, 06:07:34 PM
^I'm hoping I can catch that Pacifica show. Winters Tavern is an all right spot , but don't expect much of anyone from SF or Oakland to show up to that venue.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on February 02, 2018, 01:24:03 PM
I am actually going to be playing a gig in two weeks. I haven't played in public since Damnweevil's last show in 2009.
The gig is a bit out of my normal realm. The music is contemporary R&B. The gig is opening for a rapper's record release show.
The other day I got a text out of the blue. It was from a female singer was referred to me by an acquaintance. She was looking to add a jazz/bluesy vibe and some solos to her stuff. She's emailed me four sparse acoustic piano and voice mp3s of the songs. We will only be able to get in a couple rehearsals before playing out, but I am practicing to the recording and totally got this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 02, 2018, 04:13:02 PM
Break a leg!

I wish something would just take me by surprise like that—I've been woodshedding for like 2 years now...  >:(
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on February 03, 2018, 10:39:28 PM
The Jamming went well. I was at the singer's parent's house and I'm pretty sure I'm older than her mom and dad. It felt awkward in that regard.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 05, 2018, 12:50:44 PM
On the bright side, my repair guy finally replaced the tuners on my 12-string, which hasn't been able to hold its tuning for about 2 years.

On the darker side, when I was playing with some of the guitars at his shop, some asshole ripped off my prescription sunglasses, which I had stupidly set down on the chair next to mine. eh, I needed a new prescription, anyway...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on February 05, 2018, 07:55:54 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 05, 2018, 12:50:44 PM
On the darker side, when I was playing with some of the guitars at his shop, some asshole ripped off my prescription sunglasses, which I had stupidly set down on the chair next to mine. eh, I needed a new prescription, anyway...

Well that's pretty fucked up. Any idea who is was?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 05, 2018, 09:13:41 PM
Yeah, it was one of 3 dudes who came in all at once and swarmed all over everything before buying a few guitar picks & splitting. Fuckers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 07, 2018, 12:04:19 AM
probably illegals. you should call ICE.

GO MURICA.
#trumpsamerica #maga
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 07, 2018, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: mortlock on February 07, 2018, 12:04:19 AM
probably illegals. you should call ICE.

GO MURICA.
#trumpsamerica #maga

Now that you mention it, they were Native Americans, you racist shithead.

Now take your politics back to General Discussion where they belong.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 07, 2018, 11:08:48 PM
Quote from: RacerX on February 07, 2018, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: mortlock on February 07, 2018, 12:04:19 AM
probably illegals. you should call ICE.

GO MURICA.
#trumpsamerica #maga

Now that you mention it, they were Native Americans, you racist shithead.

Now take your politics back to General Discussion where they belong.
you need to get your sarcasm detector fixed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on February 08, 2018, 08:00:02 AM
Maybe after I get my amp fixed.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on February 08, 2018, 08:16:59 AM


   Prescription Sunglasses?

   Fancy

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on February 09, 2018, 04:12:56 PM
Our song "Jurassic Mutha" became available for streaming today. We also released this crazy video for it at the same time. Check it out



Here's the spotify link if you'd like to stream it
https://open.spotify.com/artist/3g6LAb4pLRtcGrKGqJSjhZ?si=vOlw89uJSp6G44a4gCS-og
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dangling Fury on February 10, 2018, 07:45:15 PM
That's badass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on February 12, 2018, 04:59:48 PM
Thanks dude!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on February 18, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
The gig backing the singer went well. I'm hoping someone documented it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 20, 2018, 12:51:45 AM
(http://www.bluemaize.net/im/jackets/neighborhood-watch-jacket-0.jpg)
bbottom you guys could probably steal this. lol
tiger crossover
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 20, 2018, 09:53:18 AM
Tracking the Thunderosa album yesterday at Clock Right Studio

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180220/7ea88c8e4804695b818d1dea1bdde4d5.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180220/8e0930f3b42c228ed9e3c855cfcf470b.jpg)

Kin. Late 70s Icemen

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dangling Fury on March 05, 2018, 10:33:10 PM
Dismissed our bass player the other day and need a cheap bass amp quick for gig in a few weeks. I found a peavey alpha bass for 150$ at GC in Albany. I'm not even sure where the fuck that is but I called the store and they said its in good shape. Anyone played one of these?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on March 23, 2018, 04:01:59 PM
 Our latest single and video was released today. Check it out yo





Stream our shiz here
https://open.spotify.com/artist/3g6LAb4pLRtcGrKGqJSjhZ
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Katzenkönig on March 27, 2018, 07:03:23 AM
Me with my heavy psych band at a gig :D

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 05, 2018, 02:32:26 PM
$10k for scrap wood?
https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/music-memorabilia/instruments/the-who-a-pete-townshend-stage-used-and-smashed-1964-sonic-blue-fender-stratocaster-guitar-from-the-band-s-december-1-1967/a/7176-89636.s
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 09, 2018, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 05, 2018, 02:32:26 PM
$10k for scrap wood?
https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/music-memorabilia/instruments/the-who-a-pete-townshend-stage-used-and-smashed-1964-sonic-blue-fender-stratocaster-guitar-from-the-band-s-december-1-1967/a/7176-89636.s
scrap wood with a cool story from a famous musician. i can see some rich person snagging this for a wall hanging in a den or some shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 16, 2018, 12:59:57 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180416/66d43f9afc3c67bb414b2112fd64b211.jpg)

Finally rocking a full stack again!

Haven't really needed to until now. Don't think I've rocked this entire rig since Ironclad...!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on April 19, 2018, 01:03:46 AM
How did Model T's get to such ridiculous prices? I want one but I can't justify spending $2000 on one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 20, 2018, 08:25:38 AM
I actually got upset and stormed out of a rehearsal earlier this week due to band members "wasting my fucking time."

Bring your A game or stay the fuck home.

If the guy who's been playing this music for 4 months knows it better than the people who wrote it and have been playing for 20 years, that is a problem.

This is also one of my issues with needless complexity: why write music so hard you can barely fucking play it? 

All this really does is create a huge possible margin for error live. And makes you have to rehearse and rehearse and rehearse. Them, at least.

"I'm ready for the gig. YOU GUYS need to get your shit together."

This has been Danny G. Please don't waste my fucking time.



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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Instant Dan on April 28, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
I've come to the conclusion that for SG's and humbuckers, i've really only heard four that I liked with them.

Gibson 57 classics.

Gibson T-top's.

Dimarzio 36th Anniversaries.

Dimarzio Super Distortion.

I currently have a pair of T-top clones in my SG which are great for pedals as I can pile on the gain without it ever becoming too harsh. I'm about to throw in a pair of cream Super D's and it sort of a Wino look.

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/db/2f/8c/db2f8c0fba7241e28450a2bbe17b5713.jpg)





Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on May 04, 2018, 06:58:55 PM
Our newest single "Boss Fight" was released today on all of the streaming services

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31924682_1016317295184498_7794626113296138240_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeE63TcYgqFLmeRLvSMVaAuVmN73TzWiMkAK6HoJ7KGknNdVwoOp-7SyHylJBd5zd57YF7Gcmi3ivTpEwEMUfjbJ1pp3IsD5kPea51U3YGcvwA&oh=213bd630eeb7d481b6be2d4ae6958545&oe=5B961249)

https://open.spotify.com/artist/3g6LAb4pLRtcGrKGqJSjhZ


The video for the song is also complete and turned out pretty fucking funny. Here's a quick clip


We're playing a film fest next week and we're going to premier the whole thing there.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 08, 2018, 12:26:46 AM
anyone wanna play the house of guitars outside stage on 9/8?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 08, 2018, 01:45:14 AM
Quote from: mortlock on June 08, 2018, 12:26:46 AM
anyone wanna play the house of guitars outside stage on 9/8?

Hmmmm. Not me, but I could tell some people near me about it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on July 10, 2018, 12:03:19 AM
Dick!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on July 23, 2018, 01:57:51 AM
My band opened for EYEHATEGOD on Thursday. Killer show... Mike IX is a funny guy, and EHG of course puts on a good show.

Wasn't really that packed though... I think a combination of Black Label Society coming through a few days earlier and being a Thursday. So, not likely that we'll ever be asked back to THAT venue again... ah well.

Here's a video somebody captured of our first song:



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on August 04, 2018, 08:06:01 AM
our latest single "Heavy Ton" has been released today.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/chpan4a8v/HEAVY_TON_HISS.jpg)

You can check it out all over the freaking place

https://open.spotify.com/album/1lspBvfegGpE20OPfhBuP3

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/heavy-ton-single/1412169024?i=1412169289

https://massdriverrockpower.bandcamp.com/track/heavy-ton

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 09, 2018, 11:18:26 AM
Quote from: bbottom on August 04, 2018, 08:06:01 AM
our latest single "Heavy Ton" has been released today.

(https://s33.postimg.cc/chpan4a8v/HEAVY_TON_HISS.jpg)

You can check it out all over the freaking place

https://open.spotify.com/album/1lspBvfegGpE20OPfhBuP3

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/heavy-ton-single/1412169024?i=1412169289

https://massdriverrockpower.bandcamp.com/track/heavy-ton


you guys ever gonna tour?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on August 09, 2018, 06:00:30 PM
We've talked about doing a few short tours. Right now though our surf band (it's the same guys) have a bunch of shows and we're writing and recording stuff for the next Mass Driver album as well as shooting some videos.
So it'll be some time next year before we can get out on the road
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on August 14, 2018, 02:18:43 AM
I have these all fully charted out.
[cloudset]https://soundcloud.com/ericdemby/sets/charted[/cloudset]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on September 18, 2018, 02:26:40 PM
Heading into the studio later this week to track drums. Been practicing ~1.5-2 hours a day for the last month and a half, which mainly has made me acutely aware of how bad I am at my songs. Still, I think I've narrowed down the parts I'm bad at enough to get through tracking efficiently.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on September 28, 2018, 11:40:46 PM
This is a great thread. It's like a chaotic neutral how-to manual combined with postmodern theater. I have learned a lot.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 10, 2018, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: RacerX on December 24, 2013, 06:57:22 PM
Re: 432hz tuning (warning: mini shitstorm):

http://riffrocklives.com/forum/index.php?topic=9086.0

So, I was reading through this thread and came across this little discussion of 432hz tuning. It's funny because I recently started playing music with a couple dudes, one of whom (the drummer) is one of these 432 == TRUTH zealots. Like, 20 minutes of campaigning for our *need* to use that and escape the tyranny of 440 after every practice. "You will feel the vibrations, I swear". I think he wants to lead us in an OM chant.

This all really annoyed me at first but, who fucking cares, it's silly drug cult amp massage music, might as well do it at a frequency that hoists my guy's mast whether by placebo or not.

Maybe that will be our whole thing, that on stage we spend half the set lecturing the audience about 432 and leading them in an om chant. We could call ourselves "OM" ..... shit.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 13, 2018, 05:31:48 PM
I think im getting to the point where I don't want to play in a band anymore. I never thought id ever say it. im sick of flaky band mates fucking up everything. you put so much work and time into it and one dude can fuck it up in an instant. ive been in active bands since 1988 and I cant really see myself NOT in a band. im at the point where my desire to try an maintain an active band, book shows, load gear in and out, juggle real life work schedules with band life is starting to annoy the fuck out of me. I used to love it and still do but it has to be with the right people and one guy is fucking that up for me right now. cut him loose and start over. probably going to happen. maybe a fresh start with more dedicated people will snap me out of my depression over this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on October 15, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
Might be worth taking a break for a bit, or look for a role where you don't have to lead shit. I'm only 6 years into my "band career" but it definitely sucks herding all the cats required to put shit together. Fortunately my band only plays like 5-6 shows a year right now, and all in our hometown (Chicago) so the herding requirements are minimal.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 15, 2018, 01:20:22 PM
That new-ish Electro Harmonix Op Amp Big Muff is dope. I found a used one for $60. Loads of upper harmonics if you want them.

(https://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg640h/op-amp-big-muff-pi.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 16, 2018, 06:57:24 PM
we have worked out the bs I was talking about. now I just need to see the dude back up his words with action. I also need my bass back from the shop. getting a small crack in the neck repaired.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on October 17, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
I've wasted the past two or three years being depressed about the demise of SANDIA MAN & hiding out behind a wall of smoke, and I'm fucking over it. SANDIA MAN is dead, and I'm done grieving about that and the ruined personal relationships that went along with it.

Today I started writing material for a new, HEAVY project. I don't know whether or not to involve other musicians or try a solo thing, but I do know I gotta get rolling on this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 17, 2018, 09:38:04 PM
Quote from: RacerX on October 17, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
I've wasted the past two or three years being depressed about the demise of SANDIA MAN & hiding out behind a wall of smoke, and I'm fucking over it. SANDIA MAN is dead, and I'm done grieving about that and the ruined personal relationships that went along with it.

Today I started writing material for a new, HEAVY project. I don't know whether or not to involve other musicians or try a solo thing, but I do know I gotta get rolling on this.
fuck yeah man. good to hear.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 12, 2018, 07:44:26 PM
Drummer of my work-in-progress heavy psych two-piece showed up belligerently drunk like he does every other practice. In between not being able to hold a fucking beat he proceeds to rant about how any song longer than 2 minutes is too long, how he's really a "Beatles guy" and how we need to think about appealing to "the masses".

This is the same douchebag who *needs* us to tune to 432hz reference because of spiritual enlightenment. (We also need to play while bathed in red lighting, because of something to do with the heart chakra...)

Time to pull the plug.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 12, 2018, 08:36:39 PM
Musicians are flakes (he said, flakily).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on November 27, 2018, 05:28:29 PM
I've been hearing an octave fuzz in my new material, but didn't have one.

Just took delivery of an Earthquake Devices Fuzz Master General; now preparing to run it through its paces.

Will report back.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 29, 2018, 08:00:20 PM
Well? Where's our mosquito
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on November 30, 2018, 01:46:52 AM
My band just put out a promo video for our upcoming album... Thought you guys might appreciate it:

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on December 27, 2018, 02:47:18 AM
Was at a show tonight and someone knocked their Green Matamp off of a 2x12. Part of me died a little inside... Didn't look like it was going to make sound again that show, but at least the chassis was intact.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on January 02, 2019, 10:38:04 PM
Are there other artists doing this sort of "package deal" on signature models?

http://litafordguitars.com/ (http://litafordguitars.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 30, 2019, 05:52:17 PM
i came across this place and was wondering if anyone here has any experience with it.
http://www.rareguitarheaven.net/ (http://www.rareguitarheaven.net/)

i can get a fake copy of my dream bass. a wal mk1. prob get it for like $600 as opposed to the real thing which would run well over $6000 which aint happening.

anyone know anything about this place?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: nyarlathotep on January 30, 2019, 06:28:31 PM
Hmm... WHOIS result comes back with an actual person in California, but Googling the name comes back with some iffy threads of people generally not liking the idea - not much in the way of real results or photos.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on February 27, 2019, 11:41:53 PM
We were going to play our first show this Saturday but it got cancelled. I forgot about how fucking anxious I get, like waking up at 5am going "OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK" level pre-stage fright anxiety. I'm relieved and disappointed. We're playing Stone Cold Crazy and I can barely handle it, gotta leave out some notes if we take it above 105bpm.... I'm working on it!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 28, 2019, 12:32:16 AM
I got onto a big show in April and starting to feel some pressure. In my experience, the best way to combat the anxiety is more cowbell practice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 28, 2019, 01:06:12 AM
end tymes. thats heavy.   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on February 28, 2019, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 28, 2019, 12:32:16 AM
I got onto a big show in April and starting to feel some pressure. In my experience, the best way to combat the anxiety is more cowbell practice.

Yeah, that's the plan. I've got it up to 110!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 05, 2019, 10:21:55 AM
Fuck!  I missed out on this 77-78 cab today with black backs. Goddammit!  Was gonna go nab it this morning.

(https://i.imgur.com/7KVl2y1.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/NSmz3mW.png)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 05, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
1000 dollars for a "Marshall canb" - why so expensive?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 05, 2019, 12:07:16 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 05, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
1000 dollars for a "Marshall canb" - why so expensive?
you think pink fur is cheap?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 05, 2019, 12:08:24 PM
It's not a regular cab. It's a canb. But really m super disappointed. It's not a 69 like my head and top cab. But it'll do. I'd pull the speakers if I found a 69 and put them in that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 09, 2019, 08:44:15 PM
First time playing an instrument in front of a live audience in about 15 years tonight \m/

I'll let you know how it went
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Post by: RAGER on March 09, 2019, 09:43:00 PM
Awesome.  Destroy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 10, 2019, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: renfield on March 09, 2019, 08:44:15 PM
First time playing an instrument in front of a live audience in about 15 years tonight \m/

I'll let you know how it went
pics or it didnt happen.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 10, 2019, 03:22:47 PM
Wild time. This was behind an apartment building in Inglewood. I heard somebody yell at their neighbor for having the radio on too loud. Good thing we're scheduled first because the cops are definitely going to come and make us stop, right?

I got there first and unloaded and started thinking...hmm.. there's no lights, no PA, no nothing.

(https://i.imgur.com/lQv3dgV.jpg)

I guess somebody was supposed to show up with this stuff. I happened to have a few packs of christmas tree lights in my car which turned out to be a lifesaver. We stalled and played made up bullshit waiting for PA to show up so we could play our actual songs with singing. Never happened, so we did them as instrumentals. People danced and grooved, I had a fucking blast, fucked up more than I would have liked but oh well. The subsequent bands didn't even bother to play and the party kinda dissolved after our set.

Actual song:


Just fucking around:



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Post by: neighbor664 on March 10, 2019, 03:30:40 PM
"This video is unavailable."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 10, 2019, 03:31:53 PM
I changed it from Private to Unlisted, try again?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 10, 2019, 05:38:59 PM
Maybe they brought the PA to the wrong viaduct? 

You play bass with your fingers? Kudos!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 10, 2019, 08:01:27 PM
Th-thanks man. Usually more successfully, I would like to imagine, but...no excuses!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 11, 2019, 05:50:42 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 10, 2019, 05:38:59 PM
Maybe they brought the PA to the wrong viaduct? 

You play bass with your fingers? Kudos!
finger snob. ill have you know theres only one billionaire bass player on the planet and he plays with a pick.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on March 11, 2019, 06:09:18 PM
Chris Squire often played with a pick. All arguments for fingers only are pointless.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 11, 2019, 06:41:17 PM
I only play with fingers because I find muting easier. I intend to learn to use a pick. Don't want to limit myself to one technique....
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 11, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: mortlock on March 11, 2019, 05:50:42 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 10, 2019, 05:38:59 PM
Maybe they brought the PA to the wrong viaduct? 

You play bass with your fingers? Kudos!
finger snob. ill have you know theres only one billionaire bass player on the planet and he plays with a pick.

Nikki Sixx?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 11, 2019, 08:54:13 PM
Sir Paul
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 12, 2019, 01:08:55 AM
Quote from: RAGER on March 11, 2019, 08:54:13 PM
Sir Paul
i hate the beatles but that is the correct answer.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 12, 2019, 01:09:39 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 11, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: mortlock on March 11, 2019, 05:50:42 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 10, 2019, 05:38:59 PM
Maybe they brought the PA to the wrong viaduct? 

You play bass with your fingers? Kudos!
finger snob. ill have you know theres only one billionaire bass player on the planet and he plays with a pick.

Nikki Sixx?
personally gets my vote over any beatle.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 12, 2019, 10:35:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/oKQCuYP.jpg)



Paul was good, you guys.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 12, 2019, 04:27:31 PM
Paul was great on bass, and we already had a pick vs. fingers debate (it was a tie). I am not anti pick, for example I pick my nose. It's good to be able to play both ways. For some types of music, a pick is almost mandatory.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 12, 2019, 07:05:27 PM
I am a huge Paul fan and I finger my nose and other things.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on March 12, 2019, 07:16:10 PM
I'm gonna pick my ass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 13, 2019, 08:14:55 AM
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 13, 2019, 10:05:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bGxhoBk.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 13, 2019, 10:23:23 AM
(https://data.whicdn.com/images/37856231/original.gif)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 14, 2019, 01:37:08 PM
I just can't seem to get motivated to play music lately. I've got two newish pieces of electronic gear that have new firmware updates available and a new pickup for my SBG and I'm just not stoked about doing it.

My little studio is at max capacity so I've planned on moving out to the main basement area so I can have my drums set up again and room for my 8x10 bass rig. Maybe if I start that project I'll get jazzed about playing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 14, 2019, 11:12:38 PM
can you upload your own bands shit to spotify. sorry for the dumb question in advance.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 14, 2019, 11:18:52 PM
Yes you can. Edit. I read that as SoundCloud. No idea about Spotify.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 14, 2019, 11:21:13 PM
Yes but there's some red tape.
QuoteTo be eligible to release through Spotify for Artists, you must control the distribution rights to your music, and you must have a US bank account and tax ID.
https://artists.spotify.com/guide/upload


..I might be pointing you in the wrong direction, this is just the first info I found  :)
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Post by: mortlock on March 14, 2019, 11:29:37 PM
thanks. seems complicated. ill stick with bandcamp and sound cloud.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Roodbaerd on March 15, 2019, 05:54:42 AM
Quote from: mortlock on March 14, 2019, 11:12:38 PM
can you upload your own bands shit to spotify. sorry for the dumb question in advance.
I signed my bands through Distrokid (https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1152726). It's fairly cheap, hassle-free and releases your music on all the popular platforms.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Zero on March 15, 2019, 10:00:22 AM
Quote from: Roodbaerd on March 15, 2019, 05:54:42 AM
Quote from: mortlock on March 14, 2019, 11:12:38 PM
can you upload your own bands shit to spotify. sorry for the dumb question in advance.
I signed my bands through Distrokid (https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1152726). It's fairly cheap, hassle-free and releases your music on all the popular platforms.

Seconded on DistroKid. Makes it very easy
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 28, 2019, 01:20:07 PM
I cracked the neck on my jazz bass. Fuck. Is getting a replacement neck worth it or after the cost of the neck and having it put on and set up would i be better off getting a different bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 28, 2019, 02:41:00 PM
Can it be glued?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 28, 2019, 03:56:50 PM
has been repaired twice. keeps coming apart. im sure its because I abuse the fuck out of it when I play. the neck is warped anyhow. in the winter when theres no humidity its like a bow. in the summer with the humidity it straightens out a little. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 28, 2019, 04:52:15 PM
I would look on Reverb.com and Talkbass.com for a used replacement neck, you gotta be careful because if the models aren't the same then theoretically the replacement might not fit perfectly in the neck pocket. I probably wouldn't buy a new neck from Fender or Warmoth, I would just buy another used bass for the same price. I try not to buy new stuff, it depreciates in price so much. You could ask at House of Guitars if they have a neck lying around that would fit it? Or whoever is doing a lot of repair work. Are you like throwing your bass around? Did you break it at a gig?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 28, 2019, 04:55:46 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on April 28, 2019, 04:52:15 PM
Are you like throwing your bass around? Did you break it at a gig?
yes and yes. it got crazy at the wcpc last gig on Friday and it got caught in a mosh so to speak.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 04, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
We are playing the Whiskey on May 11th. Need to come up with band name between now and then.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 04, 2019, 03:05:22 PM
I got you. What kind of music, like trad. Heavy Metal? I listened to your clip, I just forget stuff.

If there's any stylistic keywords let me know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 04, 2019, 10:07:35 PM
It's like, pentatonic rock n roll. We cover I Just Wanna Make Love to You by Foghat and have another song that is a rip off of Highway Star. Stoner rock but fast and with cheesy vocals.

They have not been into any of my suggestions. Thunderfuck, MEGABOSS!, Astropussy...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 04, 2019, 10:40:37 PM
Tutu Jellybean. Eye Sosceles. Eyesaw. Obtuse Angel. Al Gore Rhythm. I am so fucking bad at this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on May 04, 2019, 10:44:51 PM


   THUNDERFUCK


   Bold and in All Caps

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 05, 2019, 12:32:10 AM
FRÖNTBÜTT (with or without umlauts)

GREASEFREAK (name of a food blog, I don't think it matters)

KANKLE (knee + ankle = fat ankle)

POINTED LITTLE HEAD (Jefferson Airplane reference)

ON TIME MOVERS (or with hyphen: ON-TIME MOVERS)

GOPHER

BLONDE HASH (or Honey Blonde Hash)

I tried to check and it looks like all these names are technically available. There was a FRONTBUTT hiphop group but looks like they are defunct. I used AllMusic.com and Googled "_____ Band". You should probably check Facebook too.

I really like local and regional references, for you that would be like ALCATRAZ (I know, already taken) but see if there is some local wildlife, historical, geological etc reference. Drug references are always good, duh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 05, 2019, 11:14:56 AM
Band names are dumb and hard to come up with.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 05, 2019, 05:21:48 PM
I don't think all the good names are taken though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 07, 2019, 12:34:35 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, I have submitted them all the rest of the boys to be completely ignored  :o

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 07, 2019, 03:58:03 PM
Have everybody submit like 5 names (or as many as possible), then vote by putting the names into three categories - "I like it", "I can live with it" and "No fucking way".
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 07, 2019, 04:36:29 PM
Sounds like a plan \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on May 07, 2019, 07:19:36 PM
Drink shots to decide the name. Last man still conscious `chiefs' the new name on the foreheads of the others in permanent marker while they're passed out.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 07, 2019, 07:41:11 PM
Hades Mining Co. and Unholy Semen are both good band names.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 07, 2019, 10:46:38 PM
ironically they both started out as potential song titles before either band had a name. unholy semen is for sale if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 07, 2019, 11:41:11 PM
Bands should lend each other their names more often. I remember Circle did that with some other band, and they like toured and released albums as each other for a spell before trading back.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 08, 2019, 12:10:43 AM
Lots of bands got their name from a song - either their own song or somebody else's song. So, it's not ironic.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 08, 2019, 12:34:43 AM
How dare you contradict me.









Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 08, 2019, 12:35:21 AM
lol
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 08, 2019, 03:02:35 PM
The Pistol Whipper Snapper Turtle Neck Braces
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 08, 2019, 10:58:06 PM
when changing strings on a guitar or bass should you take all the old string off first then restring or do one at a time?   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 08, 2019, 11:16:30 PM
I always did one at a time because obviously if you remove tension from the neck for a split second the instrument will immediately behave like a scuba diver that has been rocketed to the surface and just self destruct, but I hear that's an unreasonable fear.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 08, 2019, 11:23:31 PM
thats why im asking. it seems like it could cause neck issues but ive also heard it doesnt. i have always taken all strings off. easier to wipe down the instrument. the neck on my bass was kinda fucked to begin with so im not sure it that had any effect.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 09, 2019, 02:51:51 AM
There's a lot less tension on a guitar neck, if that means anything...

One reason to change the strings one by one, is if the strings are keeping the bridge in place.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 12, 2019, 03:42:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DX4PhXt.png)

Our guitarist who got us this show just ignored everybody else's suggestions and went with their own thing I guess. I don't know if I could actively think of such a shitty band name if I was trying, but even so we might not have been the worst-named artist on the bill
(https://i.imgur.com/Etvwj5l.png)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Jor el on May 12, 2019, 04:27:13 PM


   You're in Hoity Toity ?

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 12, 2019, 04:35:18 PM
I wish
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 12, 2019, 05:00:09 PM
Kankle is better than those names.

You could have a pretty cool "metal" logo for Kankle with like lightning bolts and stuff.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 12, 2019, 07:55:37 PM
How was A mart?  I've been to H mart. It was pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 14, 2019, 10:53:27 PM
that flier art is impeccable.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on May 16, 2019, 11:51:23 PM
Nice.Bass.Pose. Whats the pay on a gig like that? Nice Gig.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 17, 2019, 10:58:50 AM
Quote from: Muffin Man on May 16, 2019, 11:51:23 PM
Nice.Bass.Pose. Whats the pay on a gig like that? Nice Gig.

Negative 150 USD, it's pay to play.

You put down a $50 deposit, they give you tickets, you sell them to friends and family and if you cough up $100 more the day of you are allowed to play?

I wasn't asked to help or contribute to this and only found out about the arrangement afterwards. It's an expensive way to practice one's stagecraft I suppose? The result was a bill where none of the acts had anything to do with each other musically, and none of the audiences deigned to watch any of the acts but the one they were attached to.

I'll post a video of Amart later, you guys will be fucking amazed.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2019, 11:30:37 AM
Jesus!  They still do that?  I remember playing exactly two of those in the early 90s.  One was like you said and totally sucked so we were Dicks and they shut us down after our bass player got naked. The second one we commandeered the ticket sitch with other friends bands and it turned out cool except for about 200 people in a place designed for 1500.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2019, 01:48:08 PM
In other blog news, the other day I went into my studio and fired everything up for the first time in months. Played some synths, from red up the Marshall and Orange. Man that shit sounds killer. Immediately got bored. I need some inspiration.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 17, 2019, 03:27:44 PM
Deadlines have a way of focusing the mind. Maybe you should schedule a gig.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 17, 2019, 05:12:56 PM
I've played innumerable shows but that sounds terrifying.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 17, 2019, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 17, 2019, 03:27:44 PM
Deadlines have a way of focusing the mind. Maybe you should schedule a gig.
this is so true. shit never gets stale when you got gigs on the books.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on May 18, 2019, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: renfield on May 17, 2019, 10:58:50 AM
I'll post a video of Amart later, you guys will be fucking amazed.

subscribed
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 19, 2019, 12:45:57 AM
Shake those tiddies for Amart

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Post by: Muffin Man on May 19, 2019, 02:04:20 AM
unsubscribed

OMG more like tramA. Cool show though, you have to re-book.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 19, 2019, 05:30:54 PM
Those chicks are probably ringers he hired on Craigs List. For one thing, they don't know how to dance. And they don't know his songs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 27, 2019, 10:19:39 PM
I'm interested in Boss pedals now, and DOD. The ones I didn't buy like 30 years ago. Feels like life is coming around full circle.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 28, 2019, 10:52:24 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on May 27, 2019, 10:19:39 PM
I'm interested in Boss pedals now, and DOD. The ones I didn't buy like 30 years ago. Feels like life is coming around full circle.
i love my dod pedals.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on May 28, 2019, 11:04:57 PM
My friend loaned me his Boss HM-2. It kills. The price went way up on these though, which sucks. It's got that grinding, 90s Godflesh kind of sound. It sounds like destruction.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on July 18, 2019, 09:16:08 AM
If Dora plays like me all's lost. 

Are they still teaching kids this, or have they come up with something less sexist?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 05, 2019, 03:34:42 PM
Those HM2's. I used to be a dumping ground for those things in the early 90's. They'd just appear out of nowhere, at one point I had 4 of them collecting dust.  When the MetalZone came out, everyone moved on to those. 

Then of course i lost them or whatever over the years, and everyone is all about them again.  Of course, they sounded best when the battery was dying.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 10, 2019, 02:24:14 PM
Fuck this cheap JBL shit.

It's time for some QSC.

(https://i.imgur.com/Vd1gVbu.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 10, 2019, 03:21:07 PM
I need some PA speakers too :(

I don't want to spend QSC money, it's for really limited use. Which means they won't sound that great.

Desolation

#haiku
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 12, 2019, 03:16:18 PM
I'm just tired of the performance of flimsy shit. It's the same old thing everybody does.  I spend all this money on top notch synth gear then run it all through cheap speakers. Kinda dumb.

I've a good friend (BRIZBOMB look him up) that had an under the radar noise venue a few years back and he blew up or caught fire to every other brand except QSC. I get in moods when I just want punishing volume without the fire and smoke.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 12, 2019, 04:23:07 PM
I figured out that I can get by without buying speakers, so crisis averted. But I agree, QSC seem to be more sturdy than the competition. The tweeters in particular will withstand punishment that fries other speaker brands.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 25, 2019, 10:38:11 PM
Free copies of Ozone 8 Elements mastering software (just need to sign up for their mailing list). I have it, it's pretty easy to use. Get your mix levels up, adjust EQ, compress if needed, etc etc. Opens as a plug-in inside your DAW software. I paid for my copy, you guys can get it for free. If you record at home and need mastering software, this is really good.

https://www.izotope.com/en/learn/get-your-free-copy-of-ozone-8-elements.html (https://www.izotope.com/en/learn/get-your-free-copy-of-ozone-8-elements.html)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 01, 2019, 08:12:23 AM
I think tomorrow (Oct. 2nd) is the last day to get a free copy of Ozone 8 Elements. But I'm not sure.

https://www.izotope.com/en/lp/ozone-elements-free.html (https://www.izotope.com/en/lp/ozone-elements-free.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 01, 2019, 01:23:50 PM
Worthy bass preamp under $200?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 01, 2019, 05:27:56 PM
You want a rack unit or pedal? This is not my wheelhouse but that's an important distinction.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 01, 2019, 05:46:06 PM
hmmmmmm

That's a good question. I was thinking pedal, but it's to go with my rackmount QSC poweramp so rack is a possibility as well. Would need a bigger rack to accommodate them both.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 01, 2019, 06:13:58 PM
Do you ever look at TalkBass.com? You should try doing a search there. You could post your own question but it's probably been covered a lot already. One caveat- there are slappers and tappers there, so you'd want to make the distinction for "classic rock" or whatever description suits your music best. Thrash, doom etc.

Doing a search might be good, to see some older answers. Older answers will bring up older equipment which will be cheaper now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 01, 2019, 06:45:06 PM
Cool, thanks for the wisdom dude
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 01, 2019, 06:55:41 PM
This is the most rock and roll website ever

QuoteRule #2: Do not post profanity or obscenity. Because this forum is viewed by bassists of all ages, all posts must be suitable for viewing by minors. All profanity must be completely covered with asterisks, or completely substituted with "@%$#" symbols. Better yet, leave it out. Any use of creative lettering or partially masked profanity is not allowed. Obscene material, Strategically covered nudity, Sheer or see-through clothing, Lewd or provocative poses, Close-ups of breasts, buttocks, or crotches is not permitted, nor are links to websites containing such material or anything deemed inappropriate for minors. If what you have to say wouldn't be suited for network TV, the workplace, or your family, don't post it here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 01, 2019, 07:02:25 PM
Wrought with worship band turds.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 01, 2019, 07:36:17 PM
There's all kinds of people on there, including people who like Stoner Rock.

They have a lot of forum rules like no trolling, no fighting etc, it does seem to keep everything on topic.

Lots of members just pass through occasionally, so not much point in fighting with people you disagree with, because you might not see them again for months.

I think it's a good place to get leads to research. You have to sift through the comments and decide for yourself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 01, 2019, 07:37:26 PM
I didn't mean to impugn them. It seems like a great resource
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 01, 2019, 10:33:07 PM
im registered on talk bass. i use it for research. i barely ever post there like pretty much never.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 03, 2019, 11:54:41 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on September 10, 2019, 03:21:07 PM
I need some PA speakers too :(

I don't want to spend QSC money, it's for really limited use. Which means they won't sound that great.

Desolation

#haiku

Get the best
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 03, 2019, 11:58:53 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 01, 2019, 10:33:07 PM
im registered on talk bass. i use it for research. i barely ever post there like pretty much never.

Are you itching for a new bass? I think I'm signed up there.

I need a 2nd option to P bass for weird 4-track recording shit CLEAN tone. I got pedals for earpain.
What do I got over at Eastwood?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 04, 2019, 12:39:09 AM
Eastwood has a copy of the Ampeg scroll bass (comes in fretless or fretted). The real ones are rare and super expensive. I don't know what they sound like but they look nice. I think it's the Eastwood EAB-1 (not certain)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 04, 2019, 01:49:27 AM
Owe you one, sir




I got it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 04, 2019, 02:37:01 AM
No weird drugs boss
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 04, 2019, 03:34:20 AM
Dang!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 11, 2019, 03:57:44 PM
I can't decide between getting rack or pedal. I'd have to lug around the heavy ass poweramp anyway so maybe it's not too bad to add ten pounds to it and keep everything in one unit?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 11, 2019, 05:04:49 PM
You should be able to find a rack unit for not too much money. I think Ampeg makes some that people like, there's also one by Alembic that is supposed to be good (?) Im not sure what's available in pedal form.

You might be able to trade your 2 space rack for a 3 space rack.

How did you get started with the power amp setup? What have you been doing for a preamp so far?

I find a regular amp simpler, takes up less space, maybe slightly more expensive or same price once you factor in the case, cables etc. The one time I had to use a power amp, I used a Bass Pod as a preamp. It worked, it looked dumb but it worked fine and had lots of tone shaping options.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 11, 2019, 05:15:32 PM
Sometimes when I'm shopping for gear I'll just see whats available on Craigslist or what's cheap on EBay or Reverb or Talkbass, then look for reviews. Sort of shopping based on easy availability.

As usual, Peavey probably makes a good one that is under valued.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 11, 2019, 05:21:17 PM
If I was shopping for a bass amp from scratch now, I would consider one of the Quilter type amps which weigh like 5 pounds and are the size of a football. Because I'm old. I think Mesa has one too (the Subway?) something like that. There's a bunch of these mini high powered amps now. But they may look dumb to your band mates, which is kind of a factor.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 11, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
I got the poweramp because it was practically free on craigs, and I have an amphead (Ampeg SS-140c) whose built in poweramp has issues.

I've been borrowing our singers Fender Rumble for gigs, but he's not in the band anymore, so I need some sort of replacement. It certainly doesn't have to be a preamp. I guess I have the idea that I can get more power per $ if I combine something with the poweramp.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 11, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
I certainly don't give a shit what those morons think of my rig  ;D
I've played through those little Markbass units and they sound fine to me.

By the way, the cabinet is this (i think? could just be some bullshit with the Acoustic logo slapped on for all I know):
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/acoustic-6x10-cabinet-help-i-cant-find-specs.1271981/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 11, 2019, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: renfield on October 11, 2019, 05:44:32 PM
I got the poweramp because it was practically free on craigs, and I have an amphead (Ampeg SS-140c) whose built in poweramp has issues.

I've been borrowing our singers Fender Rumble for gigs, but he's not in the band anymore, so I need some sort of replacement. It certainly doesn't have to be a preamp. I guess I have the idea that I can get more power per $ if I combine something with the poweramp.

It's hard to beat free wattage :)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 14, 2019, 03:44:51 PM
I can't find any specs on this guy. I dig the ugly color though
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/msg/d/long-beach-bass-cab-bad-cat-1x15/6994760943.html

I should probably grab this guy instead
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/msg/d/long-beach-acoustic-b115-mkii-450w-15/6989668847.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 14, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
No idea on those cabs. I think the Acoustic is a modern one (made in China) if that means anything. Do you need a cab too? Does it need to be easy to move?

Avatar is good on a budget:
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/msg/d/hacienda-heights-4x10-bass-cab-avatar/6994728631.html (https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/msg/d/hacienda-heights-4x10-bass-cab-avatar/6994728631.html)

More speakers is more better...

No idea (except turn that tweeter down):
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/msg/d/signal-hill-gk-galien-krueger-bass-cab/6995062459.html (https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/msg/d/signal-hill-gk-galien-krueger-bass-cab/6995062459.html)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 14, 2019, 05:37:26 PM
I'm scared about blowing out the speakers on my cabinet because I'm pretty sure they're guitar speakers. I also dislike how big it is and want something smaller. Every time I plug into 15s I am pleased by their sound
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 12, 2019, 10:37:39 PM
I finally replaced the pickup in my Les Paul. I like what's in it already but thought I'd try something different.

(https://i.imgur.com/hh8Oaut.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Omn9N7h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AoWze1b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 12, 2019, 10:47:39 PM
nice rig. what year is your lp?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 12, 2019, 10:55:14 PM
It's a 60's vintage spec. Can't remember the year. It's got an ugly neck repair but it's a full on player. I sold the 78. 12 pounds is too much.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 12, 2019, 11:00:15 PM
Gonna put the Les pickup in this Yamaha

(https://i.imgur.com/OoYtTSL.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on December 02, 2019, 11:50:07 PM
I've been thinking about getting one of these as a lightweight, more portable amp for jamming.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 15, 2020, 12:15:33 PM
Probably staying home for 2 weeks—so what better time to disassemble, cull from, add to, clean up and reassemble my pedalboard?

Ordering new patch cables today, a new Son of Pharaoh is on its way, and I'll be pulling my Fulltone Fat Boost to make room.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 16, 2020, 12:13:25 AM
I could probably use to rewire my studio. But alas I still have to go to a job.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 16, 2020, 08:47:59 AM
I still have to work (from home), but likely won't be getting out much, so might as well do this. Got the new flat patch cables from Ernie Ball on the way—should save a bit of space on the board.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 18, 2020, 05:32:33 PM
band name: Bridget Jones's Diarrhea
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 18, 2020, 08:02:39 PM
^
Woh. And I thought Turgid Sturgeon (an old project of mine) sounded stinky!

The new Pharaoh Jr. and patch cords arrived today—can't wait to try out my new fuzzbox!

EDIT: Fuck, this is a burly farking fuzz!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 21, 2020, 09:53:26 AM
Is it the same as the reg one just smaller. I bought one (regular size white) from the dude direct when he used to post here.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 21, 2020, 12:58:42 PM
Yep, same hand-wired components in a smaller housing w/ smaller knobs.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 22, 2020, 03:13:53 PM
Well, that didn't take too long—about an hour to do the pedalboard.

Those pedals were filthy dirty, though...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on March 23, 2020, 12:33:56 PM
Did you make a false bottom for the pedalboard and route the wiring underneath?  Screw the boxes to the false bottom?  Once completed, it all gets a clean refined look.  Like a Pro-job.

Just a suggestion if you want more to do to keep you occupied. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on March 25, 2020, 11:38:40 AM
Thanks, Pissy, but I didn't. I've already moved on and have been furiously inventing new riffs & writing lyrics—two completed songs so far!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 25, 2020, 11:50:03 AM
I still haven't created the cutout to secure my pedalboard in the suitcase I built it to match with. Maybe when my covid check comes I'll get the necessary materials
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 25, 2020, 01:29:12 PM
Been jamming with my SDRUM and the MXR Clone looper. Might post a clip later I don't know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 25, 2020, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: renfield on March 25, 2020, 11:50:03 AM
I still haven't created the cutout to secure my pedalboard in the suitcase I built it to match with. Maybe when my covid check comes I'll get the necessary materials

I just use foam padding, bubble wrap etc. it does mess up my knob positions. But that might happen anyway? I put cables in there too...

My pedalboards are just pine that I paint flat black. Velcro sticks just fine. I can't see spending $150 on a pedalboard (and I have a few different ones - bass, guitar, electronics). I spend money on George L cables instead  :P  then I can squeeze more pedals onto the board. I guess they get you one way or another. If I was a touring musician then maybe a professional type of pedalboard and road case would make sense.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 25, 2020, 05:03:57 PM
They shut down my practice space because of coronavirus. Hundreds of people practice there... no word on whether rent is suspended too ;)

I have a solo project so I could have still used the space and maintained social distance but I guess there's no way to guarantee that, and you literally have to close down spaces to prevent people from gathering, getting too close etc. This is a park kind of near where I live, photo taken last Friday after the mayor recommended people shouldn't gather in groups etc:

(https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/FCXcbeEUZH48DQVKnc3B8hceSPg=/415x276/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BH4PJSWLT5FVXKXHPBKUUTMB7E.JPG)

Brooklyn's McCarren Park bustles even as state goes 'on pause' over coronavirus

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/ny-mccarren-park-bustling-amidst-coronavirus-20200321-z2bb2estxraj5gwlytgcxnpaeu-story.html (https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/ny-mccarren-park-bustling-amidst-coronavirus-20200321-z2bb2estxraj5gwlytgcxnpaeu-story.html)

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 29, 2020, 02:27:01 PM
Brought all my small stuff home from the jam space (anything that's not an amp) and now cleaning up and rearranging my home space, something I should have been doing all along anyway.

I have a variety of equipment I want to sell, but that's all on hold now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on March 30, 2020, 12:06:26 AM
April will be peddle-board month i guess
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 30, 2020, 10:39:48 AM
Let's see 'em.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 30, 2020, 05:22:03 PM
My Tae Kwon Do experience is invaluable here.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F1a%2F53%2F86%2F1a5386d893bd9833d8318173f2a4ce27.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

Just kidding, I never took Tae Kwon Do.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 01, 2020, 11:51:00 AM
Is that your guitar rig?  Nicely organized. Obviously use an effects looper. Did know you had a Super Lead.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 10, 2020, 09:34:17 PM
I really enjoy certain uses of spoken word clips in music. Astronaut radio chatter in 35007, AlexRedGiant's schizophrenic friend ranting in "Ring of the Acid Pope", YOB, etc.

I want to find some obscure podcast I can pillage for audio chatter in the background of the bullshit I record. If anybody has any recommendations I'll give you 50% of the proceeds from the millions of dollars I'll make from my recording career
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 10, 2020, 11:28:44 PM
What kind of chatter? I recommend YouTube, it's kind of searchable. There are websites you can use to download the files (or just press play and record). I don't think you need to worry about fidelity too much for this purpose.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 11, 2020, 11:33:49 AM
Im starting to get super bummed that my band is shut down for now. Sucks not being able to jam. Even when i smashed my pelvis we werent down long. Id get dropped off. Crutch into the jam room and sit down to play. Im sure im not the only one but fuck me. Worst part is no end in sight.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 11, 2020, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on April 10, 2020, 11:28:44 PM
What kind of chatter? I recommend YouTube, it's kind of searchable. There are websites you can use to download the files (or just press play and record). I don't think you need to worry about fidelity too much for this purpose.

Youtube was my first thought too. I really don't know what sort of content I want. Something in another language might be good. I looked up an audio version of Herodotus but the guy reading it is kinda cheesy, not the vibe I'm looking for.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 11, 2020, 12:02:24 PM
I'm working on something with my SP 404 where I've sampled some of this guys dialogue along with some of synth loops. Might not be what you're into but it is interesting nonetheless.



I also did some stuff with number station recordings like this one. I'll see if I can't find it but check this out. Bunch of this stuff out there.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 11, 2020, 12:03:14 PM
Now is the time for us all to ponder work out all the bugs of internet jamming. I am already starting to see posted collaborations and jams  done on Zoom Meetings and Streamyard. I plan to give it a go in the next couple days. Added bonus for me is that any knowledge gained may be applicable to my work if I ever get to do that again.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 11, 2020, 12:32:21 PM
Agghhh. Can't find it but here's a snippet from a few years ago on my dumb Instagram doing something similar.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHyFKihhTBc/?igshid=hk5tgs6xe42r (https://www.instagram.com/p/BHyFKihhTBc/?igshid=hk5tgs6xe42r)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 11, 2020, 12:36:26 PM
Have you seen that website where you can hire celebrities (using that term loosely) to do things like call your friend on their birthday, etc? Maybe hire one of those people to read the text you like? Some of them are shockingly cheap.

https://www.cameo.com/ (https://www.cameo.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 11, 2020, 12:47:05 PM
Santa will do it for 10 bucks. I mean it is the offseason.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 11, 2020, 07:16:26 PM
All really cool ideas, I appreciate it. Your checks are in the mail.

I could also just read something myself and like pitch shift my voice or something so it doesn't sound idiotic.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 12, 2020, 06:12:59 PM
Hey is that BeatBuddy, can you load/save your own sounds? I'm actually looking at the Aeros first.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 13, 2020, 01:07:54 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 30, 2020, 05:22:03 PM
My Tae Kwon Do experience is invaluable here.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F1a%2F53%2F86%2F1a5386d893bd9833d8318173f2a4ce27.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

Just kidding, I never took Tae Kwon Do.


I used to have a, I think they call them, 50-watt metal panel early 70's. It was all tuned up by a pro. Pretty good but not the best for me although I prolly needed the proper 4x12/cones, didn't have. But whatever



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 18, 2020, 02:49:28 PM
Fucking love my old Marshall and my old Orange but man do they sound different. Here's a side by side. Marshall first. Boogie rock.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BqDmQzWh1ML/?igshid=qm6so5grmdye

Also here's my office rig today.

(https://i.imgur.com/oFJnIkO.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 18, 2020, 04:37:38 PM
I love les pauls. My guitar player had one..rare left handed model and sold it to buy christmas presents. He mostly plays cheap guitars but he has an sg that he bought in the early 90s that is awesome but for some reason he never plays it. Ill never understand him. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 18, 2020, 06:39:01 PM
Quote from: RAGER on April 18, 2020, 02:49:28 PM
Fucking love my old Marshall and my old Orange but man do they sound different. Here's a side by side. Marshall first. Boogie rock.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BqDmQzWh1ML/?igshid=qm6so5grmdye

Also here's my office rig today.

(https://i.imgur.com/oFJnIkO.jpg)

That's a nice groove man \m/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 21, 2020, 12:22:36 AM
Boogie man. Boogie.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 26, 2020, 10:42:50 PM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 28, 2020, 12:50:38 AM
Toasty and Roasty!

My small amps were the worst, absolute dragons. Still 100 Watt Wins!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 28, 2020, 12:54:02 AM
GET THE RAT

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on April 28, 2020, 09:45:37 AM
headstock repair on that les paul?   I have a 77 SG with the same.  If the house burns down and the fam is safe, I'm going back in to get it. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 28, 2020, 11:04:35 AM
How can you tell?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 28, 2020, 03:12:36 PM
It's wearing a neck brace?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RacerX on April 28, 2020, 03:27:44 PM
I think that's one of those string-dampener thingies.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on April 28, 2020, 07:33:41 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/HrW0smK/DAF075-A7-D538-4838-8-FCC-8-F292-C8-B342-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HrW0smK)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 03, 2020, 01:38:40 AM
I'd be up for jammin anybody in Portland area. Oh wait. Never mind.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on July 24, 2020, 07:32:54 AM
According to an email today from Reverb.com, the average sale price on fuzz pedals is up 11% over last year. Not what I expected, considering how the economy has crashed due to the pandemic. Maybe all the forced time at home has people spending their bar and restaurant money on things like musical equipment. I suppose economic prospects vary widely for people, based on location and industry.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on July 24, 2020, 11:37:48 AM
Similar to how everybody started baking bread, maybe some people started soldering their own fuzz circuits. I mean I'm not sure what that has to do with a price bump but, it would be cool
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on August 24, 2020, 10:59:23 AM
I tried to get a couple of people here interested in putting on a show in the park, or on a roof or something. It would be outside, really small turnout so social distancing would be no problem. In the bigger parks here, people will have a small sound system for parties, and use a generator. I couldn't get any interest from the friends I asked. To move all the equipment into a park would need a group effort. Could also play through battery powered amps. They seem expensive and maybe not loud enough for live music outdoors.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 03, 2020, 04:05:16 PM
Free tone-shaper plug-in here, for people who mix and master at home:

https://www.waves.com/account/tone-shaper-free?fbclid=IwAR1D4GgbE3bUVIE36nNqPHFMl3ASKddUpNSQuS9byziLRQNJsdLool_9oDg (https://www.waves.com/account/tone-shaper-free?fbclid=IwAR1D4GgbE3bUVIE36nNqPHFMl3ASKddUpNSQuS9byziLRQNJsdLool_9oDg)

QuoteManny Marroquin on the MM Tone Shaper: "Parallel compression plays a huge part in my mixing technique. It adds richness and really brings out the full character of almost any sound and helps different elements stand out within a mix. Tone Shaper is a parallel compressor with four separate bands plus EQ and a few other 'secret ingredients' that make it quick and easy to change tonality of a track to match your mix. I've found that when a mix is like 80% there, instead of EQ or volume, adding the Tone Shaper makes things jump out, without sacrificing space in the mix."

My OS is too old to use this, but I bet it's worth a try.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 06, 2020, 10:36:04 AM
Gonna take my 69 Plush 1000 in to be resurrected this week. It's blue sparkle.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on September 06, 2020, 01:20:29 PM
I have the same amp (P1000S) which I need to get tuned up, so I can sell it. But it's a money losing proposition.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 06, 2020, 06:21:22 PM
Well it's not worth anything the way it is so I figure I'll fix it so I can use it. I gutted our basement a couple weeks ago so I'll start moving stuff from my little room out into the main area so I'll have room to set everything up. I already set up my drums.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on September 06, 2020, 06:57:55 PM
Awesome. Totes jelly
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 15, 2020, 05:28:17 PM
Frankenstein Ludwigs all set up.

(https://i.imgur.com/VN5PH0X.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 16, 2020, 10:02:49 AM
My kit is crappier than your kit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 16, 2020, 10:34:55 AM
It's actually pretty cool. Just mismatched. I'll break it down.

'74 24"  Ludwig Vistalite
'66 16" Blue sparkle floor
Supraphonic snare. My old drummer who is a Ludwig nerd says its the oldest Blue olive badge Supra he's seen. It's als lived its entire life right here as a part of a church kit. It has the church name engraved on it from 42nd ave. And is in spectacular shape.
Early 70's 13" blue olive badge rack tom

Cymbals are mainly Zildjian. Hardware is varied. Kick pedal is basic Pearl model. I used to buy one when I found one. I like them but I'd break them too.

Wooden beater used to belong to Janet Weiss while in Sleater Kinney and before.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on September 16, 2020, 01:05:13 PM
Bow-Wow Equiped
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 16, 2020, 02:38:34 PM
It goes hand in hand with my VW sign.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 16, 2020, 03:14:22 PM
No break down necessary. Garbage kit. Genny can floor tom.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZLBmMFZ/20200916-151235.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZLBmMFZ)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 08, 2020, 02:08:22 PM
Had to take my Orange to the shop yesterday. Not sounding right at all. Pulled it out of the head sleeve to take a visual. Found a grid resistor had come loose but had also melted some wiring. So it'll get that fixed. NOS screen grid resistors, caps and some Svetlana EL34's.

I took an old Plush in to be resurrected too.

(https://i.imgur.com/Rf9wB9c.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IzaNVjd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 09, 2020, 02:40:42 AM
Proper love.

I've got some Winged-C's for my Marshall.

Viva l'Orange! I've never played one but was on an 80 watt kick for a minute. Actually never heard that one in person but I loooove 2x12 combos. How aboot that early JCM800 2x12 (good god, a beast of an amp. Beast mode city) 2x12 Ampeg blue stripe (sold off to a national act and where it needed to go). Prefer EL84 based 2x12 amps myself (had several dangit let 'em go, rare ones ) for the jangle-pop and whatnot. That Ampeg was a beast though. Actually loved that one alot. TOO LOUD though.

RAGER, nice treatment you are giving the those old amps. Play on!


80 watt. Are they any good?
(https://shop.guitarpoint.de/media/images/org/Orange76OR80R61845_8.jpg)


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 09, 2020, 10:24:18 AM
That looks like an OR80 with reverb maybe. I see the two small tubes where two more EL34's would be in a 120.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 09, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
Oh yeah, that's a spring tank. Funny!  Damn, those tranny's are giant. I realize now how unrealistic it would be to own that amp. Way too much of everything - I mean the volume to get it roasting. I should be looking at a tiny terror signature model or something. Even just an Orange in a pedal for the silly things I do would work goood enough. /rambling.

I thought of the 50 watter Orange heads last night. Retro 50 or something.

One day when I was at Soldano's shop, he's a huge Orange nut - and had one in the showroom - some kinda 100 watt graphic full stack or something. I tried to buy it from him. Duh, no-go. Unobtanium. At least I got to gawk.

EARTH played tiny terror. Kinda genius in terms of his setup. (or plain ole cheap) Gorgeous tone though, for days.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 09, 2020, 03:50:10 PM
Big ol Orange graphic full stack you say?  Yeah I got one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 09, 2020, 04:35:45 PM
Quite a piece of kit indeed! Giant fog or something.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 09, 2020, 09:32:22 PM
High F
https://www.musicradar.com/news/jason-everett-i-thought-what-the-heck-i-might-as-well-have-the-high-f-string-too?fbclid=IwAR0q65zIANZR6mES8vUkipbeMAHuLOKTQkoAunPBTrdrZK0IUYuSCY8Yy-U (https://www.musicradar.com/news/jason-everett-i-thought-what-the-heck-i-might-as-well-have-the-high-f-string-too?fbclid=IwAR0q65zIANZR6mES8vUkipbeMAHuLOKTQkoAunPBTrdrZK0IUYuSCY8Yy-U)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 09, 2020, 10:18:26 PM
so B-E-A-D-G-C-F?
i suppose it makes sense to not use the smaller G-B interval that guitars use because you're not playing chords
but why would you want to play such high pitched notes on a bass anyways.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 09, 2020, 10:31:12 PM
4 bangers or GTFO.

Not exactly, but kind of.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 10, 2020, 02:52:44 AM
That's my view as well.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 10, 2020, 10:24:02 AM
I was that way for a long time, but after playing standard tuning for so long, I found where a 5 string would have opened up a lot of space.  I've never owned one though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 10, 2020, 12:06:29 PM
Jaco is outraged j/k
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 10, 2020, 01:49:45 PM
My buddy for 20 years is a huge fan of more strings on his bass. I however am not. It's probably the reason we've never played in a band together.  That and he's not huge fan of the heavy. He's super particular about stuff too like really expensive cables and gadgets.

I did always say we would start a heavy stripped down blues influenced heavy 3 piece. Hasn't happened yet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 10, 2020, 06:02:37 PM
Im a 4 string player. Never had the desire for anything more. I played a 5 when i went to arizona for the burn victim anniversary show in 2018. I pretty much used it like a 4 and used the b like an e string. We tuned super low so it worked out. It was a borrowed yamaha bb405 or something like that. It was a cool bass.
Major rager on the 4 string motherfucker.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 12, 2020, 11:52:05 AM
I'll probably purchase the Eastwood Hooky. I've been hankering for a second bass to my P. The red one would match my faded Fiesta telecaster but I think the white version will get the go ahead.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on October 12, 2020, 03:43:24 PM
Going out of my brain wanting to play some real metal with folks who get it. Since March I have been really good about sticking to home. Therefore I have been playing with a very limited circle of players. My brother is a great bass player, but not always available. Most specifically it's the drummer situation. One is a great jazz funk/fusion drummer mostly, and a flake. The other is just not that good and kinda clueless about more than just playing metal. He's also my housemate and a friend of my brother so he feels he needs to be in on whatever goes down and ends up bringing down the whole endeavor.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 12, 2020, 04:46:44 PM
That last thing you posted reminded me of a heavier Deep Purple kind of feel. I had a guitar Rig in my office and I riffed along to it a bit.

I used to have a couple friends who were just novice players That like to come over cuz I had all the gear. It was like a candy store to them and they'd wanna bash on my drums and just make noise. I'd always cut it short because for me I was down ther with full band 2 or 3 nights a week for hours and to have just racket going on wasn't too respectful to my lady at the time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on October 12, 2020, 08:09:59 PM
I should be more specific. Speed metal and thrash with a healthy dose of fist pumping anthems. I am sick to death with endlessly jamming tepid, meandering, psudo-hippy stuff. I want to find a sick mother fucker who can pound out relentless, brutal, shreddy shit.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 17, 2020, 10:50:02 AM
Started building stuff again!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/c894e99276ca0bb824a207699e6201aa.jpg)
New and upgraded tremolo pedal. Up top stomp switch selects between a fixed sweet spot trimpot and an adjustable rate knob

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/957c11a23c038e80259cd2117d6d3ea7.jpg)
Tube Screamer clone with diode clipper switch for a bandmate

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/a26d43639551e920cf8c04caeed08038.jpg)
Germanium Fuzz Face. Good Lord. I've only used Silicon fuzz up til now. Like going from margarine to actual butter. Building another PNP version when the parts come in.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/ee8024a319f7dddf8df80c10c2bb9bd0.jpg)
Tube Screamer clone for myself. It unseated my DIY modded Turbo Overdrive as low gear dirt on my board. Then it was unseated by my goofy looking Klon Centaur clone.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201017/4960679bd6eb4b33d6a20c2d2905efd6.jpg)
Dual Phase 90 prototype. Still not happy with the arrangement. Have two other enclosures I'll try


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 17, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
Right on man. Good to hear from ya.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 17, 2020, 06:15:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on October 17, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
Right on man. Good to hear from ya.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 17, 2020, 09:15:37 PM
Glad this place is still here!

How is everyone?


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 17, 2020, 10:07:07 PM
Best year ever! 

/sadtrombone
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 17, 2020, 11:29:43 PM
Better than Austin probably. Has it gotten even more "normal" since you were here last?

edit: sorry, slightyl emotional -  I was into FXFW (from the audience) when it was running. It was kind of a wreck too (intentionally?). Good times. I used to party with one of the originators, or one of the originals at SXSW HQ. I miss Austin. Glad I never saw it flood.

How's Red River????  EMO's still RIP?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 17, 2020, 11:44:29 PM
ps. Danny looks like he has the paint down real good. What clear coat is that?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on October 18, 2020, 05:59:16 AM
Quote from: Danny G on October 17, 2020, 10:50:02 AM
New and upgraded tremolo pedal. Up top stomp switch selects between a fixed sweet spot trimpot and an adjustable rate knob

Great idea...
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 18, 2020, 02:12:35 PM
I started paying the extra money for finished enclosures haha.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 18, 2020, 02:16:39 PM
Bars/venues are still mainly shut down due to Covid. 1/3 of them have shuttered for good. Very sad. Red River has already been dead for years but Valhalla (former Room 710) is keeping it alive. Much of RR folks now gather at The Lost Well (hope that place survives).

I was getting more into recording and engineering anyway so I've been busy as fuck with album projects tho I haven't played a gig since March. Have had a few offers but don't feel safe doing them yet.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 18, 2020, 02:19:51 PM
Who knows how the concert industry will look after this.

Trying to remain optimistic tho. Sucks to be losing so many places, but when we're finally past COVID hoping for a golden age/Jazz Era/Harlem Renaissance like after the 1918 pandemic.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 18, 2020, 02:25:53 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201018/1c558e6388d70f402b7f1f28c7ec58fb.jpg)

Anyway, current board. But things are still shuffling around like a game of RISK.

Klon Centaur (2nd from top R) has unseated the Tube Screamer clone as low-gear overdrive. Already tracking with it.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 21, 2020, 07:23:09 PM
Bad news on the Orange.   Blown OT.  meh  It was already a replacement Mercury Magnetics.  Found some some shoddy wiring that had been enabling the amp for years then finally gave out.  Every time I opened it I looked at stuff and thought that's gonna be a problem.  Well finally it is. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 23, 2020, 01:53:16 AM
Whelp. It's a boat anchor now
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 23, 2020, 09:17:59 AM
Hardly. New OT on its way. Hopefully done by Wednesday but you know amp guys. Who knows about the Plush. Probably be a while on that one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 23, 2020, 01:16:15 PM
Cool. That'll be a blast to play, I'd imagine. Huge.  8)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 27, 2020, 10:43:16 AM
I hopefully get my Orange back today.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 29, 2020, 12:48:14 PM
Got my Orange back. Man it sounds really good so far a bit cleaner. Not nasal at all. Had a bunch of stuff done. Caps, Svetlana EL34's, screen grid resistors, cleaned up a bunch of shitty wiring and of course new Mercury Magnetics OT.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 01, 2020, 02:58:03 PM
Trying out this little doodad on my Les Paul. This little bar helps the angle on your middle four strings and keeps that pesky g string in tune better.....supposedly.

(https://i.imgur.com/20Lg32A.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 05, 2020, 06:26:42 AM
Interesting.  Does it just kinda clamp on to the strings?

You running that Orange at 16ohms?   It'd be useful to see how it responds to different loads in terms of headroom.  I say that not knowing if you have 4, 8 and 16 ohm options. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 05, 2020, 01:05:10 PM
Yes pretty much. The string tension holds it in place. Notice how after the nut there's no severe angle to the tuner?  That's what it's accomplishing so the strings, mainly the G, don't bind at the nut if you bend a lot which I do.

Since I'm
Using to 16 ohm cabs I'm running it at 8. With just one cab I do prefer 16. I don't use any dirt or overdrive with it. It's a bit cleaner now which I like. I prefer to use volume and just playing hard to get the sound I want.

It's got a 4,8,16 ohm impedance range.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 08, 2020, 11:03:12 AM
Looks weird. Doesnt the tilt on the headstock give you enough angle?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 08, 2020, 02:14:08 PM
That's not the angle I'm referring to.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 08, 2020, 10:24:42 PM
My #1 has staggered tuning posts. The 90's Strat with Sperzels. Damn fine shit. When Floyds came out they locked that shit down and then Eddie...

Not sure what the staggered's do but I never had a problem. Well, one problem, no "tinkle chimes" behind the nut.

Apparently thats one thing Ed gave up, or dis-liked?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 08, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
On the beginning of Runnin it sure sounds to me like behind the tunomatic Gibson bridge to my ears but probably the destroyer which would be the same concept/sound.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 08, 2020, 11:39:47 PM
Gimme two clips and I can tell you
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 09, 2020, 02:07:28 PM
I MIGHT be able to pick up my Plush n a couple days.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 10, 2020, 08:39:19 PM
I'll pick up my Plush tomorrow. I've never played it so it'll be like a new amp. 

To cheer myself up I bought a new guitar last night online. One of those cheap ass Xavier GFS jobs. White Les copy with a Floyd Rose. If it's not to my liking I'll donate it to school of rock.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 11, 2020, 10:11:45 AM
Sometimes cheap guitars are killer. My guitarist will go to his cheap samick fake les paul over his 80s gibson sg or his fender strats.
On a side note my drummer has/had covid. Ive havent jammed since last march because i knew he was not very responsible and his gf is a nurse. Him and my gtr guy have been doing the occasional 2 man jam. He (gtr) calls me the other day to tell me the drummer has covid and was about to show up to jam WITH A FEVER. He (gtr) called off the jam but wtf. Thats why im out for now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 11, 2020, 10:30:54 AM
Oh for fucks sake.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 12, 2020, 11:15:20 AM
I've already been amicably released from a band cause I ain't playing shows right now.

Roommates father has a form of leukemia which is flaring up again.

I get it, roommate gets it.

Roommate get it, roommates father will get it and will die.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 17, 2020, 12:55:24 PM
Thought I'd try out the tremolo circuit on the Plush today. No pedal so.....

(https://i.imgur.com/Txa9zBs.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on November 18, 2020, 01:23:34 AM
Had a 2.5 hour private master class on mixing today with a producer friend.

Good Lord. My brain still hurts.

I feel like a guerilla field commander who captured a tank, and knows at least how to make it go forward, turn, and shoot the gun at shit.

But it's time I learn how to properly operate and maintain a tank. Still digesting.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 19, 2020, 12:57:20 PM
Man I don't have the patience for mixing/engineering at all. Then there's mastering. Gaaahhh! 

I had to change up my cheap guitar order so now it'll be here on Monday. I didn't add a HSC at first. Ain't no way I'm having it shipped from Florida with out one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 19, 2020, 03:59:46 PM
How's the Plush sound?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 19, 2020, 04:12:09 PM
I actually really like it. Even through that hashed together cabinet. The spring reverb is nice too. Not sure I'll really use the tremolo. It's labeled vibrato but I guess they didn't know the difference in 1969. I'm using a Mr Black Super Extra Five Thousand for gain cuz it's super clean.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 19, 2020, 11:01:21 PM
ATTN RAGER,

Just retrieved from my mailbox after not picking up for a couple days:

(https://i.ibb.co/JdPPbQr/IMG-6954.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JdPPbQr)



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 19, 2020, 11:28:56 PM
Fresh out of storage. Dangit! forgot to throw in the white bic.

(https://i.ibb.co/mBfBszG/IMG-6970.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 20, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
I've heard those are nice reverbs. I'm real finicky about what how and where it's used. Hardly ever use it on guitar. Great for synths. I may have hooked up the Big Sky to guitar once or twice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 20, 2020, 12:37:14 PM
Quote from: Muffin Man on November 19, 2020, 11:01:21 PM
ATTN RAGER,

Just retrieved from my mailbox after not picking up for a couple days:

(https://i.ibb.co/JdPPbQr/IMG-6954.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JdPPbQr)

Rad. There's a big multi part podcast they did too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 20, 2020, 10:50:59 PM
Update on the condition of that cover. I had a few knock-backs last night and near the end had a moment of grief looking at the cover, thought, folded it in half, and into the bin. Like closing a coffin. This morning I retireved it inna WTF moment. It shall continue to be abused! It's now an "art project". Further weathering ahead...


(https://i.ibb.co/RYTRDqD/IMG-7000.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RYTRDqD)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 22, 2020, 04:47:55 PM
Currently negotiating on this beauty.

(https://i.imgur.com/psKyL4C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z94Fv7O.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 23, 2020, 07:56:41 AM
What year?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 23, 2020, 08:48:36 AM
1969. Speaker codes for three speakers are 69 one is 72. Trying to buy just the cab. Those speakers make it too pricey for me. I don't need 50 year old speakers. Or want them.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 23, 2020, 01:05:55 PM
Done. It's mine. Picking it up in the morning.

STOKED!!!  Full 1969 Marshall stack.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 23, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Congrats. Looking forward to pics and audio.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 23, 2020, 10:59:08 PM
I'll try but I'm super bad about that. I just wanna play. Prolly gonna pick up a squad of speakers for it. Scumbacks or Green Berets. Then I gotta stop spending money.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 24, 2020, 09:13:38 PM
Got the new old cab home this morning. Full stack from my birth year and my birthday is tomorrow.

I ordered some WGS Green Berets. They'll be here Friday.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 24, 2020, 10:25:48 PM
band name: Nether
album name: Region

get on it people
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 24, 2020, 11:30:28 PM
There was a band here about 10 years ago called Nether Regions.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 25, 2020, 01:33:48 AM
then our task is complete
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 25, 2020, 09:51:53 AM
Quote from: RAGER on November 23, 2020, 10:59:08 PM
I'll try but I'm super bad about that. I just wanna play. Prolly gonna pick up a squad of speakers for it. Scumbacks or Green Berets. Then I gotta stop spending money.

We all know spending money on yourself after Halloween and before xmas runs afoul to those who can't figure out what to get you for xmas.     

Unless of course you make a cabinet purchase to create a gift channel for others to fulfill.  At that point you're actually doing a service.   Hell, it's almost required.   ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 26, 2020, 06:24:15 PM
Pulled out the tape echo last night.

(https://i.imgur.com/PQLyrSY.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 27, 2020, 10:31:11 AM
Need advice. So i read throught the online collab thread and im not sure if thats what i need or not.
What is best way for me to lay down bass tracks on songs with guitar and drums? How do you mix it for best sound and volume levels?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 27, 2020, 12:45:10 PM
You mean collaborating long distance?  I'm probably not the one to answering but I think it's just files sent back and forth. The ou just load the files into your daw and do your thing. Keep it and do your own mix or send to somebody else with your tracks on it and let them have a mix at it. I guess?  Sorry if not helpful.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 27, 2020, 05:27:49 PM
Im not sure what im trying to do. The band wants to record but im not in a position to fly out and join them so im trying to figure out how i can remote record bass trax.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 27, 2020, 07:32:28 PM
Get their track and record along to it. Do you have an interface for your computer? (1/4" input for your bass, and USB output into your computer)? Behringer makes a cheap one, for a little more you can get a Focusrite one which is better quality but that difference might not matter.

Have you recorded into your computer before?

You could also do it outside the computer by wearing headphones that are playing their track, while recording your part.

Either way it will be challenging because when you're all playing together, little mistakes get covered up. But you won't have that, this time. So it might mean doing a lot of takes and really practice the shit out of your part.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on November 28, 2020, 06:38:56 PM
There's always six different ways to skin a cat. Depends on what hardware you got (laptop vs. recorder etc) and what source material the bandmates are providing you. You can even record your bass parts clean, directly into a computer (no amp) and make it sound good with plug-ins. Some people say it's good to have a clean version of your take anyway, in case you need to add some clarity back in. (Not two different takes, but a split signal of the same take). You can do that with a stereo output pedal that you don't turn on, also some tuners can do it, etc.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 29, 2020, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on November 27, 2020, 07:32:28 PM
Get their track and record along to it. Do you have an interface for your computer? (1/4" input for your bass, and USB output into your computer)? Behringer makes a cheap one, for a little more you can get a Focusrite one which is better quality but that difference might not matter.

Have you recorded into your computer before?

You could also do it outside the computer by wearing headphones that are playing their track, while recording your part.

Either way it will be challenging because when you're all playing together, little mistakes get covered up. But you won't have that, this time. So it might mean doing a lot of takes and really practice the shit out of your part.

My experience swapping files back and forth with neighbor is exactly this, takes much more effort for me to get a sufficiently mistake-free take.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 29, 2020, 04:36:11 PM
Yeah, that's a great point. Also what makes jamming "the shit". Sometimes one-or-the-other throw out "a clam" and quickly covers it up. Or, it leads to the next switcheroo. Man, I miss jamming.

Mort, there are internet programs for rehearsing online. Somehow, I've never done it, where bandmates log on and rehearse. I would think that could be recorded, as in the old always roll tape. Takes a good connection and computer I would guess. If you want a link for further resaerch I can go find it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 04, 2020, 11:09:05 AM
I think I may be getting to the bottom of my recent building slump.

Past half dozen builds have either been non-functional or kinda worked but sound like shit.

Which is annoying as hell in and of itself, but I'd like to get back into building things for people as a way to make extra money as don't feel safe playing out yet.

Putting together a commission circuit for a friend realized what I thought were 10k resistors in a bag were actually 1k. Upgraded to metal film so the color codes are hard to read. But figure they're within 1% of the value so don't bother testing them.

Oops.

Looking back several of the problem circuits had 1k and 10k resistors swapped around.

Fuck. Hoping this has been the problem all along.

Knew something was up as having this much bad luck in a row all of a sudden was highly suspect.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 04, 2020, 12:07:43 PM
My eyesight is a huge reason I haven't built anything in a long time. The last thing I built was a very intricate multifunctional small box synth that had two boards and acajillion things soldered to both sides. It was a bitch and I kept second guessing myself. I can't always tell the color bands on those damn little resistors. 


But I will be digging into my old Holy Grail because it seems to have microphonic. Probably a bad solder joint I think rather than a failing component so it'll just being chopstick and solder time.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 04, 2020, 03:17:23 PM
Time for some glasses gramps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 04, 2020, 04:08:12 PM
I've had these glasses for a long time.

It's hard to see at night too so I just get in the left lane and go as fast as I can to get home. Just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 04, 2020, 05:55:20 PM
My night driving vision sucks ass. Ive been wearing glasses since the 8th grade.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on December 09, 2020, 09:19:28 PM
Ok finally sitting back down to the album mixes after the crash course from a producer friend 3 weeks ago.

Was utterly overwhelmed for the first 12 hours but it's all making sense now.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 28, 2020, 07:07:45 PM
when this shits all over i want to start a new band. super slow and sludgy. im pretty sure it will be hard finding people near me who want to do it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on December 28, 2020, 07:18:36 PM
look forward to you moving out to southern california to start a sludge project with me
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 28, 2020, 07:21:57 PM
nothings off the table at this point in my shitty existence.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 28, 2020, 07:24:32 PM
im talking a band where 4 bpm is considered fast.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on December 28, 2020, 07:54:37 PM
did i share this Sabazius record yet? fucking cowards gave up after just 11 hours...

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Post by: mortlock on December 28, 2020, 08:03:12 PM
i wonder what the record is for longest.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 28, 2020, 10:31:15 PM
I was gonna offer to play drums but you think it's hard to play fast?  It's even harder to play slow.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 28, 2020, 10:39:04 PM
you all need to move to western NY and it can happen.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on December 28, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 28, 2020, 10:31:15 PM
I was gonna offer to play drums but you think it's hard to play fast? It's even harder to play slow.

I've never labored under this misapprehension. The slower you play, the more it exposes your lack of synergy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 28, 2020, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: renfield on December 28, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 28, 2020, 10:31:15 PM
I was gonna offer to play drums but you think it's hard to play fast? It's even harder to play slow.

I've never labored under this misapprehension. The slower you play, the more it exposes your lack of synergy.
ive never seen a more eloquent counter argument.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on December 28, 2020, 11:36:24 PM
Quote from: mortlock on December 28, 2020, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: renfield on December 28, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
Quote from: RAGER on December 28, 2020, 10:31:15 PM
I was gonna offer to play drums but you think it's hard to play fast? It's even harder to play slow.

I've never labored under this misapprehension. The slower you play, the more it exposes your lack of synergy.
ive never seen a more eloquent counter argument.

Well. Now what.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on December 28, 2020, 11:41:04 PM
Now, we play.

(C chord rings out for all eternity)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 29, 2020, 12:28:23 AM
/justplayscirclejerksdrumbeatscuzitseasierthanplayinfalongwithearth
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 30, 2020, 03:48:47 PM
Meet my new band.

(https://i.imgur.com/3tkGRgE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 30, 2020, 04:15:54 PM
Where the fucks my hartke?
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Post by: RAGER on December 30, 2020, 05:21:54 PM
Ok. It's a 1x15 sorry. The last thing I used it for was when I was in a two piece. A couple small clubs we'd play didn't mic the drums so we put a 57 in the kick and run it through a head and into that 1x15.

I'll double check it's functionality when I get a second and then box it up and ship it to ya.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 30, 2020, 05:25:14 PM
I was just messing around with you. You cant ship that to me, it will cost a small fortune.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 30, 2020, 05:31:50 PM
Don't tell me what to do.
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Post by: mortlock on December 30, 2020, 06:53:23 PM
youre not the boss of me.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on December 31, 2020, 04:22:15 AM
An associate of mine once said the bass player controls the music. Said associate was probably a bass player though so grain of salt
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on December 31, 2020, 04:31:18 AM
Quote from: RAGER on December 30, 2020, 03:48:47 PM
Meet my new band.

(https://i.imgur.com/3tkGRgE.jpg)


I can see the practicality for sure. What are you tracking to?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 31, 2020, 12:02:46 PM
I rarely track anything. I'd rather just play.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on December 31, 2020, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: mortlock on December 30, 2020, 04:15:54 PM
Where the fucks my hartke?

which hartke did you get?
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Post by: mortlock on December 31, 2020, 03:41:09 PM
Whatever one rager is giving me apparently.
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Post by: renfield on December 31, 2020, 04:58:02 PM
Ah, I wasn't paying attention.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on December 31, 2020, 09:49:32 PM
Was watching an interview/product showcase (meinl) with John Jabo Starks and Clyde Stubblefield and the interviewer ask's what's the best advise for up an coming drummer and Clyde shouted out "pay attention". In reference to how to play in one of the hardest workin bands in show business.
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Post by: Muffin Man on December 31, 2020, 10:30:54 PM
2:25

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 02, 2021, 09:54:25 AM
Guess I'll take a guitar to work today.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on January 02, 2021, 12:22:31 PM
So like I really want to get a baritone / bass vi style instrument, but i'm getting the sense that the plague means I might just have to make a blind purchase? Several instrument merchants have laughed in my face at the suggestion they would have such a thing stocked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 02, 2021, 12:42:57 PM
Build one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on January 02, 2021, 01:21:28 PM
So buy a short scale bass and convert it?

That might be pretty doable. Only have to worry about the bridge, tuning knobs, and nut right?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 02, 2021, 01:23:22 PM
I think fender reissued the bass vi not that long ago. Shouldnt be that hard to find one.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 02, 2021, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: renfield on January 02, 2021, 01:21:28 PM
So buy a short scale bass and convert it?

That might be pretty doable. Only have to worry about the bridge, tuning knobs, and nut right?

Or just buy a baritone neck and tuners and slap that on a guitar body.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 02, 2021, 01:45:32 PM
Like a squire jazz master should be cheap to find.  Warmoth neck or stewmac if they have it
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 02, 2021, 06:58:19 PM
im putting my fender nate mendel p bass up for sale. if anyones interested let me know.
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Post by: Lumpy on January 02, 2021, 10:34:16 PM
Squier was making a Bass VI for a while, maybe they still are. That's what Jared from Big Business plays, I think.

Mortlock why you selling your bass? You went back to your Jazz Bass?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 03, 2021, 12:03:55 AM
He quit the FF tribute band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 03, 2021, 02:02:00 PM
I never left my jazz bass. It will always be my number 1.
Im selling the nate because i dont need it and i still have my kramer if i need a back up. Im not playing much due to covid and if/when things return ill just stick with the jazz bass.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 03, 2021, 02:02:36 PM
And i quit the ff tribute band.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 04, 2021, 12:37:57 AM
You quit the Fist Fuckers? Dang.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on January 11, 2021, 01:38:32 PM
I stumbled onto this and got all nostalgic. Technically, one of these babies in red was my first "electric guitar".
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Post by: renfield on January 11, 2021, 08:42:16 PM
Amazing. Mortlock, we'll have to use that for our 20 bpm project
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Post by: mortlock on January 12, 2021, 10:23:28 AM
Hell yeah.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on January 12, 2021, 02:05:35 PM
I have an old cassette somewhere of me and my brother "playing music" from when I was 9. He's 3 years younger. I would make him bang on boxes and pans so I could play the Starguitar and singing about video games and aliens.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 29, 2021, 11:01:12 AM
I subscribe to this guy on youtube named beneller.  He's a teacher and a total wizard player.  Everything from 7 string chug djent to chicken pickin.  Anyways something he said on a recent vid struck me.  I don't ever play full songs anymore and I need to.  My playing consists of warm up noodling then rehashing some of my old riffs with some more noodling then I'll come up with some new riffs which I don't record like a fool then I forget them when  I could go back and put some stuff together for like an actual song.  Then I'll play some VH riffs cuz it just sounds cool through my gear and then I get bored. 

I need to write a few songs and start playing them.  Or even go back through some of my last bands recordings and pull down the guitar tracks and play along at least.  Imma try and do something different. 
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Post by: mortlock on January 29, 2021, 12:32:15 PM
Thanks to this pandemic im so fuckin discouraged. 2021 is a total loss. Im starting to think i prob wont step on a stage ever again.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on January 29, 2021, 02:39:35 PM
This is a perfect time to work on your solo noise project.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 01, 2021, 09:53:53 AM
I'm taking this break from gigging to get better at recording.

Which poses its own new set of problems.

Have a Roland Studio Capture 16 channel interface.

Turns out they have an inherent flaw which causes them to pop and crackle from time to time while recording. Reading online many people have this issue. Most of the remedied it by getting something else.

So I'm looking at either:

1. (Recommended by a producer friend) A Focusrite Clarett 8prex 8 channel thunderbolt interface for $1200.

Not as many tracks I would like (I could add my Scarlett for 4 more if need be) but for the price it's the best currently out.

2. Go the cheap route and hope for the best: a lesser Focusrite 8 channel interface for $600. Then get another of the same unit for 16 channels total. Can at least split up the $1200.

I am really tired of buying shit. There are plugins to get rid of the pops and crackles but they also noticeably degrade the sound quality.

For current album project(s) tracking drums requires 9 tracks. If singer/guitarist and myself record live scratch tracks with him, that is 12 tracks.

Hopefully they'll finally cut those $2000 checks I keep hearing about and I can buy both #1 *and* a #2 as an expansion unit.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 01, 2021, 10:54:01 AM
Quote from: Lumpy on January 29, 2021, 02:39:35 PM
This is a perfect time to work on your solo noise project.
to what end? If i cant 'play out' with it, im super uninspired to do anything. I know thats more on me than anything else.
I kept busy for awhile compiling the Tomsk-7 tracks for the discography cd but thats done now. I had it in my mind that things would be better by summer but that obviously will not be happening. Well like i said before at least this is happening at the tail end of my musical 'career'. I feel bad for all the people in their prime who had to put their bands on hold. You dont get that time back.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 01, 2021, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: Danny G on February 01, 2021, 09:53:53 AM
I'm taking this break from gigging to get better at recording.

Which poses its own new set of problems.

Have a Roland Studio Capture 16 channel interface.

Turns out they have an inherent flaw which causes them to pop and crackle from time to time while recording. Reading online many people have this issue. Most of the remedied it by getting something else.

So I'm looking at either:

1. (Recommended by a producer friend) A Focusrite Clarett 8prex 8 channel thunderbolt interface for $1200.

Not as many tracks I would like (I could add my Scarlett for 4 more if need be) but for the price it's the best currently out.

2. Go the cheap route and hope for the best: a lesser Focusrite 8 channel interface for $600. Then get another of the same unit for 16 channels total. Can at least split up the $1200.

I am really tired of buying shit. There are plugins to get rid of the pops and crackles but they also noticeably degrade the sound quality.

For current album project(s) tracking drums requires 9 tracks. If singer/guitarist and myself record live scratch tracks with him, that is 12 tracks.

Hopefully they'll finally cut those $2000 checks I keep hearing about and I can buy both #1 *and* a #2 as an expansion unit.


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Don't know if this helps but I have a Soundcraft MTK 22 mixer interface all in one. USB connect from mixer right into your daw. I paid less than a thousand for it 5 years ago so they gotta be fairly cheap used.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 01, 2021, 02:59:39 PM
I initially wanted a board interface, but the portability of the rack mount has proven it's worth. Since I don't have a dedicated studio area I have to go the players to record. Have converted my bass rack case into a mobile recording rig.

At first I bought a Presonus 16 channel board to use as an interface. My bandmate has the 24 channel version and I used it to record an album with them. So I'm already familiar with it.

But turns out, Presonus isn't updating the driver for the latest version of iOS, which is of course what I have.

While I was initially furious about this, I have since fallen in love with the board as a live mixing console for live streams.

Glorious overkill haha. Like building a sandcastle with a bulldozer.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 01, 2021, 08:25:44 PM
Finished. Germanium Fuzz Face for the bassist in a current project.

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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 02, 2021, 09:36:04 AM
Ok reading up on the issue with the Roland Studio Capture, I went and adjusted the audio buffering rate as that should in theory help.

The only problem is I'll have to do another tracking session and see if it still crackles or not.

Don't have much confidence it will remedy the issue, but I sure would like to save myself $1200.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 06, 2021, 12:20:09 AM
I've been having a similar prob with recording through my iRigII onto my iphone.  Tried airplane mode.  Turning off blue tooth, turning off apps.  I think its just too hot signal.  I should just use my daw.  I'm old it's just like I want a tape reorder to just push record.
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Post by: Danny G on February 06, 2021, 10:14:06 AM
Whelp, the StudioCapture was still cracking last night.

Brought my little Focusrite 6i6 as well just in case, and wound up tracking with that instead so we could still work.

Seems tracking down a Focusrite Clarett 8prex will be a bit tricky, as Sweetwater/GC/Musicians Friend doesn't carry them. And the store on FocusRite's homepage is currently down. Because of course.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 06, 2021, 08:25:30 PM
Looking at the Allen&Heath Qu-16.

16 channel board/interface. $1700 but I can use it as a recording console *and* as a live mixing board for livestreams. Can sell the Presonus board to help fund, tho I do like it.

A bandmate has the 24 channel version, which I will be learning anyway when that project and his other band start recording again.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 06, 2021, 08:39:04 PM
Someone mentioned the board the other day in another thread somewhere for a good one. Hmmm. Let us know! edit are there discrete recording-outs (8+) or only 2 channels at a time? OLd cassettes had 4 channels! /just sayin'
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Post by: Danny G on February 07, 2021, 09:56:23 AM
From what I understand this can be a 16 in/out USB interface, and can also be used as a L/R board mix via USB.

There are two USB slots, one for the flat end on the front and one for the other square end on the back.

Apparently you can also link the faders to the DAW so if you move a fader on the computer the fader on the board moves too


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 09, 2021, 11:48:49 PM
Whelp, never mind. New board may have to wait a bit.

My vehicle has been kinda hiccuping, and today the check engine light finally came on.

Getting an oil change tomorrow to see if that miraculously clears it up. From what it's doing it "feels" dirty fuel injector-ish, and I know a mobile mechanic who can check it out so not terribly concerned.

But if my suv is being weird maybe I shouldn't buy a $1700 board this week


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Post by: Pissy on February 10, 2021, 08:42:21 AM
Its a sensor.  It's always a sensor. 
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Post by: Danny G on February 10, 2021, 02:35:22 PM
Hopefully a cheap sensor.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 10, 2021, 05:00:17 PM
Have you checked out the Soundcraft  MTK22. It's not 1700 and doesn't have auto faders but it is for recording and live sound. Built in interface.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 10, 2021, 10:53:10 PM
Hrmmm....

I keep forgetting that right before I got the Presonus board I bought a Soundcraft board used off a guy for cheap. Got it home and realized its usb out was just L and R audio. He was VERY understanding and offered me a refund.

Hadn't thought about Soundcraft since but will look into that

Another thing I almost forgot about. When I got my SUV used last spring I opted for the $2200 Platinum + warranty. Just found the paperwork, calling them in the morning.

36 month/40,000 miles. I think my deductible is $100 \m/,


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Post by: neighbor664 on February 11, 2021, 12:20:47 AM
Quote from: Danny G on February 10, 2021, 02:35:22 PM
Hopefully a cheap sensor.


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Cheap sensors almost always involve expensive labor.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 11, 2021, 09:03:00 AM
"Oh this sensor is kinda cheap and fragile. We better build the rest of the car around it to protect the sensor."


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 11, 2021, 09:55:09 PM
Well this is cool. Have two commission Big Muffs to build.

One friend wants one similar to the one I just built for myself, another wants an op amp Big Muff (which I've never built) with some tweaks.

Sweet!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 12, 2021, 06:17:39 PM
okay I'm hankerin' to get my muff out. Back in a while with a pic. Its an odd one for sure.

(https://i.ibb.co/cXmn8jw/IMG-7898.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cXmn8jw)(https://i.ibb.co/xMN6GgW/IMG-7897.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xMN6GgW)(https://i.ibb.co/ryMmYkV/IMG-7896.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ryMmYkV)
(https://i.ibb.co/Wnp7kKj/IMG-7900.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wnp7kKj)
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Post by: Muffin Man on February 12, 2021, 07:01:30 PM
Special pedal #1 from G. Wyllie (Glen) RIP. I asked him one day about a cocked-wah and before I finished the question he said "oh you mean an umgawah". A what?

Here she is, ye olde #1. Proof that there are indeed unicorns.

(https://i.ibb.co/yqym6hn/IMG-7902.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yqym6hn)(https://i.ibb.co/BLPB7Yq/IMG-7901.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BLPB7Yq)

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Post by: RAGER on February 13, 2021, 09:14:54 AM
I'm not familiar with those pedals.
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Post by: Muffin Man on February 13, 2021, 10:51:59 PM
The muff was from the builder's ca.1990's ebay listing. I don't know much about him other than being a muff modder. Just want to post a couple obscure pedals. Motivated to make some clips, been awhile since these have been in boxes. I've got a Wyllie fuzz pedal that's super ragged, thick toothed - he made a lot of fuzz variants. Cult like following I guess.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 13, 2021, 11:27:22 PM
Ranger, you were right about the Isla but I might get lucky if an email comes this week or next.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on February 14, 2021, 01:59:49 AM
Did Wyllie make the etched pedals, kind of dome shaped maybe? They were beautiful.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on February 14, 2021, 09:37:59 AM
Bad ass!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 14, 2021, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on February 14, 2021, 01:59:49 AM
Did Wyllie make the etched pedals, kind of dome shaped maybe? They were beautiful.

Indeed he did! one was called the Moon Rock.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 15, 2021, 10:36:28 AM
Quote from: Muffin Man on February 13, 2021, 11:27:22 PM
Ranger, you were right about the Isla but I might get lucky if an email comes this week or next.

That thing is impressive. If I was gassing for synth gear I'd buy one. A steal at the introductory 900. Damn! 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 15, 2021, 11:09:13 PM
Indeed, all indications point to a winner. I'll try to make some boom bap stoner with it. I never even heard the term boom bap until last year so will be a real mashup or something. As soon as it gets here I'll give it a whirl and post.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 16, 2021, 12:14:38 AM
I see a shipment hit NY about a week ago then customs so should be on its way. Looking forward to hearing about your experience with it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 16, 2021, 12:24:16 AM
Right, okay good. Some guy that ordered in March hadn't got his email as of yesterday but even though I'm September it's sure to be in port or, by now?, on-site at their build bench in FL. I mean, mine was on the boat because "the big man" said all orders on backorder will be fulfilled in this batch. And as you said, "the boat has arrived". I'm kinda excited to see if I can operate the thing. haha.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 16, 2021, 12:43:24 AM
Let me know if you don't love it.

Cascadia represent! 


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on February 16, 2021, 12:50:24 AM
These voids havin a blast with SP 404's.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 16, 2021, 12:58:38 AM
I can get with that. Tajima hal is on Tidal, got it streaming. Some kinda chill lounge or something. My Mt Everest in this category is live Portishead.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 23, 2021, 05:51:43 PM
Dave mustaine is with gibson/kramer now. Good to see kramer getting some exposure.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on March 02, 2021, 01:11:08 AM
That's cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 12, 2021, 10:47:31 PM
Bandmates were condescending to me today over a point of music theory that they ended up being wrong about. I'm not normally sensitive about this sort of thing but I can't let it go for some reason  :o
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 12, 2021, 11:32:33 PM
Sarcasm is always effective. But hopefully they're your friends. But you can also needle your friends.

Since you can credibly double on guitar and bass, odds are pretty decent that you're the best musician in the band.

Everybody is super stressed out in general now, so probably you are too.

Maybe you should write a new song that features that point of music theory, and every time you get to those parts you look at them and be like "uh huh, yeah."
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on March 13, 2021, 12:02:41 AM
Sounds like they need a band leader. I'd set that shit straight pronto. Oh, it's fun for a minute, but then let's get to work...

;D
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 13, 2021, 10:34:26 AM
Bandmates suck. Im at a serious crossroads in my musical life. This past year is the longest ive gone without playing with people since ive been 19. Im 52 now. I cant wait to get back at it but im not sure exactly what i want. I would like to resurect an old band but i dont think the other guys are down. Ill probably pick up where i left off but after a year off, the things i was less satisified with outweigh the things i was really happy with. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 13, 2021, 10:55:23 AM
I really wonder if I'll ever be in a band again.  I would really have to want to play out.  But yeah bandmates can suck.  I've always preferred to keep them at a minimum.  2 or 3 piece.  That's it.  You gotta play something and haul gear.  No lead singers.  No fukn way.

I'm curious what you guys were arguing about as far as theory goes.  If it sounds good who cares about the theory.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 13, 2021, 11:10:57 AM
I love playing out and hauling gear doesnt bother me. I was only playing 4 or 5 shows a year so it wasnt a big deal. I need to get back at it asap because im not in good playing shape anymore. I can hardly wait to see how sore im going to be after my first 2 hour jam back at it. I havent stood for 2 hours since the pandemic hit let alone with a bass strapped around my shoulder.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on March 13, 2021, 10:24:13 PM
we need that build-out. 2-18 pieces who cares
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on March 13, 2021, 11:35:04 PM
3 piece with Cajun rice.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 14, 2021, 01:57:39 AM
The holy trinity.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on March 14, 2021, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on March 13, 2021, 10:55:23 AM
I really wonder if I'll ever be in a band again.  I would really have to want to play out. 

This hits hard.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on March 15, 2021, 02:43:52 AM
Boo-hoo geezers. I've been skeeming to build a live venue for the past few years. A bar, small caddilac (quality sound mix) venue 50 cap with foqua on sex, drugs, and alcohol. Mix and match.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on March 15, 2021, 10:37:43 PM
Quote from: mortlock on March 13, 2021, 10:34:26 AM
Bandmates suck.

These are honestly good guys, and I consider myself fortunate to play music with them. But what you say holds true regardless.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on March 16, 2021, 03:23:41 AM
Whats that book 5 kinds of love or something. Bassists aer usually the problem for me - double edge though because they can do wonders. (as a guitar player)  I loved my #1 drummer though. That fucker was tits. You have to have someone that will put up with you and your quirks. Drummers are best at that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 16, 2021, 10:50:50 AM
My best friend of 20 years is a bass player. We've never played in a band together.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 16, 2021, 12:22:42 PM
I didnt realize its been 20 years already. Where does the time go.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 16, 2021, 03:43:13 PM
Time do fly.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 18, 2021, 09:52:57 AM
I learned back in the mid 2000s that if I'm going to spend 9 months putting a lineup together around an album's worth of tunes I wrote it should be MY BAND.

I was crystal clear about my goals for the project and all agreed, but I made the mistake of making it a democracy.

What happened? After the first 3-day weekend of out-of-town shows I booked, we get back and half the band is bitching about travel, and didn't want to do it again until it was "worth their while."

"If we do this route 3 times, by the third it WILL be worth our while. That's how it works."

I get that some people have no desire to travel, or simply cannot due to life and family obligations etc.

But when I'm literally telling them on the phone "This will be a project that TRAVELS" and they say they are ok with it, then suddenly change their minds once we do.... ugh. Pussies.

I should have disbanded the project then and there or fired them both. But, I stupidly made it a democracy.

Singer wanted to use the business model of "Let's make a REALLY GOOD ALBUM and if it gets picked up, *then* we can travel."

I have never. Ever. Seen. That. Business. Model. Work. Ever.

And even *if* it did, the band would implode on the first actual tour, because (1) they are not already acclimated to touring as a unit and (2) the people who didn't want to travel would make life miserable for those in the band who did, which destroys morale.

"Build an army of PROFESSIONALS."
- Sun-Tzu, "The Art of War"


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 18, 2021, 10:49:51 AM
The only way that's gonna work is if it doesn't cost anybody other than your self and you pay them a per diem. Just like if you were to play as a touring musician. I'm sure you've done exactly that. If it's gonna be YOUR band. Oh there's always gonna be bitching about something.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 18, 2021, 05:53:43 PM
Yup.

When I did put a band together that was my band, we couldn't do much cause I'm broke.
Haha well, shit.

So the least I could do was make it as pleasant and fun experience to be in as humanly possible.

We make any money, I give it to them. Work around their schedules. Help everyone load their gear. Drive everyone who wants a ride to/from the gig. Never EVER yell at or get mad at anyone onstage or off. Pay for the hourly jam room myself. Even tho I wrote pretty much every note on every instrument, let them still have their own voice and take on it.

Basically take everything from every good (and bad) band leader I've ever worked with, and be the type of band leader l would want to work with.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 18, 2021, 06:28:47 PM
And still they complain.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 19, 2021, 12:08:19 AM
No, actually haha.

Since I knew I couldn't pay anyone and we couldn't do a whole lot, I made sure to get cool chill people who wanted to be there \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on March 19, 2021, 10:14:35 AM
I've tried a different approach because of the pandemic.  I just write everything and play everything except drums.  I just tried AirGigs for the first time and found a great drummer to remote record drums for me.  I put in programmed drums to set a general vibe and I just let him interpret it as he saw fit. $75 for a song.  I'm really happy with the results.  I'm now feeling like I can do a whole album.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on March 19, 2021, 12:00:49 PM
Bad ass!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 01, 2021, 04:13:59 AM
Seems like the prices on used pedals is up by about 35%. The days of deals (and steals) seems to be long gone. On Reverb, the cheapest Boss Metal Zone is $50 plus shipping. They used to be found easily for half that price. The only DOD pedals on Reverb under $50 are just A/B switchers, Loop/Gates, and (terrible) Supra Distortions. Even the less desirable DODs are over $50. I think it's the pandemic, which caused a price increase in "home hobbies" across the board. But in recent years there's dozens of Chinese knockoff versions (Mooer etc) of everything, and even those prices are kind of high. You would think that having so many pedals on the market would drive prices down, but it apparently hasn't.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on April 01, 2021, 09:08:52 PM
I think on Reverb prices are generally higher but you can often throw out a lower bid.  I just sold a few pieces on Reverb and I got lower bids than my asking price on two items but only like 5-10%.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 03, 2021, 03:20:25 PM
I've been running an extension cord out to the garage since I moved in here, on account of there's only a single two pronged outlet in there.

Finally did the diagnostics I need to replace it, and sure enough it's on the same ungrounded circuit as the office and bathroom.

I'm going to replace it with a GFCI but I really wanted a reliable source of power for the power amps and power tools and stuff. From cursory research it seems like a difficult thing to achieve.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 03, 2021, 03:53:16 PM
Power tools are dangerous and not recommended for home use. I prefer to let my shit fall into a state of disrepair. Dont fight entropy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 03, 2021, 04:39:25 PM
Well surely you need to use a drill and a sander, I mean what sort of masochist do you think I am.

Shouldn't I be worried about damaging my amps and stuff though?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 03, 2021, 04:45:56 PM
You need to replace your garage wiring with 3 conductor romex 12 awg. Th gfci won't work if there's no ground. Ground fault circuit interrupter. You can have up to 5 outlets on gfci governed circuit including the gfci outlet itself.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 03, 2021, 06:19:52 PM
I guess I'm misunderstanding what I'm reading on thee internet
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 04, 2021, 10:20:24 AM
Certain vintage parts for pedals are becoming hard to find all of a sudden. Silver mica caps, germanium diodes and resistors.

Guess I'm not the only one who got back into building during the pandemic :/


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 05, 2021, 11:01:03 PM
Looking into this guy for rewiring my LP Studio

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210406/1bea70087cfb600e3df9e6519472f9aa.jpg)

Yeah seems a little cork-sniffingly/blues lawyerly steep, but the prewired set is actually cheaper than buying the individual parts.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 05, 2021, 11:10:01 PM
Been seeing those on webpages lately. There's also rsguitarworks. com who were very early in the pre-wired drop in kits. I've got one in my SG from 2004 or something, I'll have to open it up and see what it is (forgot) which model.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 05, 2021, 11:50:00 PM
That's doesn't seem too bad. I've done the RS kit on a couple guitars. I'll vouch.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 08, 2021, 11:47:48 AM
There was a sale that included a pre-wired toggle switch as well ($54 by itself).

Got that because fuck it at this point.

I've done so much rewiring to that thing that I should probably redo everything, but have since settled into a pickup configuration that works so I won't be rewiring it much if at all in the future.

And this is infinitely nicer than my own best soldering work haha ugh...

(It arrives tomorrow \m/,)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 08, 2021, 03:11:32 PM
I'm bummed. My 1992 USA Strat took a fall from a wall hook. It fell face first pretty hard. There was obvious damage to the tone pot. I wasn't too concerned about superficial dings or paint as it's had plenty. I used to kick this thing around on stage. I pulled off the pickguard to put in some new pots. My heart sunk. Very visible cracks in the wood behind the bridge posts. I was gearing up to have the frets done on it, now they are the lesser problem. The cracks don't seem to go through or too deep. I've dripped wood glue down them in hopes that holds well enough. We'll see. What sucks even more is I had really got it dialed-in to a Jeff Beck whammy-tastic setup. I could pullup a step and a half. Now I'm just hoping its stable.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 08, 2021, 07:16:15 PM
that sucks. i once cracked the neck on my main bass and damn near gave myself a heart attack in the process when i realized what happened. i got it repaired but i find myself always worrying about bumping the headstock into the wall or amp in our tight jam room. they say the cracked area is actually stronger after a repair but i dont know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 08, 2021, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 08, 2021, 03:11:32 PM
I'm bummed. My 1992 USA Strat took a fall from a wall hook. It fell face first pretty hard. There was obvious damage to the tone pot. I wasn't too concerned about superficial dings or paint as it's had plenty. I used to kick this thing around on stage. I pulled off the pickguard to put in some new pots. My heart sunk. Very visible cracks in the wood behind the bridge posts. I was gearing up to have the frets done on it, now they are the lesser problem. The cracks don't seem to go through or too deep. I've dripped wood glue down them in hopes that holds well enough. We'll see. What sucks even more is I had really got it dialed-in to a Jeff Beck whammy-tastic setup. I could pullup a step and a half. Now I'm just hoping its stable.

That is a total bummer.  I can feel the impact from here, I have a '93 and would freak out if it hit the floor that hard. Good luck, I imagine it'll fine based on your fix for it. I had mine re-fretted and plek'd. I haven't taken a microscope to it but speced the frets to not anhcor into the fingerboard any wider than stock - to keep the fingerboard tension the same. It's got to be different though I have't tried to hear it. - otherwise that would freak me out - every mod I've done on mine has been completely unneccesary (except frets) and I wish I'd kept it stock. Since it's a "good one" I doubt if I improved it much but the last 5% if that. I've never really used my whammy could do just as well with a hardtail. But been looking at a wiggler humbucker guitar though.

Looking forward to hearing more of your musics.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 09, 2021, 09:03:55 PM
I'm taking all my guitars off their wall hooks now due to this traumatizing story
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 09, 2021, 09:07:58 PM
ive never used the wall mount for that exact reason.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 12, 2021, 12:52:31 PM
Working on a new pedalboard. Pics in a couple weeks. Just wanted to plant the seeds of anticipation.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 13, 2021, 04:08:17 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210413/309b7f0d87887741a9cdab1d665ef28e.jpg)

Done! It works!

Will still be a few days before I can truly field test it on my stage rig but sounds great thusfar. The word that comes to mind is CLARITY.

May talk to Emerson about an endorsement deal as I have two other guitars I'd like to rewire, but both of those would have to be custom deals:

Paul Stanley Iceman is 2 Vol/1 Tone, but I have it wired such that the tone control only affects the neck pickup. I'll also need a treble bleed on neck vol control.

79 Iceman has standard 2 Vol/2 Tone, but with the added coil tap switches I have the neck switch take the tone cap in/out of circuit, so I can dial in a "woman tone" but go back and forth with flick of a switch.

With it I could easily upgrade to push/pull tone pots, but the holes for the switches will still be there in the body. And by now I like the switches.

Their stuff just looks nicer than mine haha. I could buy the parts and do it myself, but if I talk to them maybe they'll give me a discount \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 13, 2021, 05:04:15 PM
Well shit. Most of the individual parts on Sweetwater are sold out (need short/split shaft for Icemen).

Guess I will have to talk to Emerson anyway, as even if I ordered through them they aren't showing short/split shaft 500k in their inventory :/

And looking at wiring for both Icemen, I'd rather not get a prewired harness for a diff guitar and have to bend and contort it to fit.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 14, 2021, 11:43:45 AM
Came across this if interested.

https://theartoftone.com/taot-wiring-kit-gibson-les-paul-short-shaft-cts-taot-450s-525k-pots-orange-drop-caps-500k/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 14, 2021, 04:15:57 PM
Nice job, Danny!

So far so good on the Strat.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2021, 09:58:36 AM
Catching up on more much-delayed projects:

Pedalboard for a bandmate
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2021, 10:02:30 AM
Also, FINALLY completed these two commissioned builds last week:

Big Muff Pi clone with Ge/Si clipper switch

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210415/d0bb799b6f99b6606bb6f763ed130a03.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2021, 10:03:18 AM
Op Amp Big Muff clone with mid boost switch. The color scheme was specifically requested :D

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210415/9f05a4bcdb974987bcb0569839f0004e.jpg)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 15, 2021, 12:52:02 PM
Okay question for you DIY savants.

For this pedalboard, I'm integrating the power and instrument cable jacks into the board along these lines:

(https://i.imgur.com/5YIS2ui.png)

It will have one instrument cable input on right side, and two outputs on the left.

I had the idea that I could dismember my ABY pedal and integrate it into the pedalboard itself. Is that plausible? James1214 tells me I'll have shielding/noise issues. Basically I want to go from this:

(https://www.radialeng.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/BigShot-ABY-thumb-768x844.png)

to something like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/0keo9ao.png)

(^ this is a highly precise engineering schematic of the pedalboard, viewed from above)

What do you think, doable?
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 15, 2021, 02:08:37 PM
Should be totally doable, and James1214 has a good point re: shielding/noise.

It's boggling my brain the more I think about how to do it tho, but making the board itself into an ABY is fucking genius.


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Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 15, 2021, 03:40:54 PM
I think she's going to be okay.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210415/5846cbe37a9f2256cd5fb016de063361.jpg)

Being able to have this much float and still be dead stable is a challenge even without damage or repairs.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210415/954b75345577606f5f9a0196d6eb4efd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 15, 2021, 07:02:34 PM
Quote from: renfield on April 15, 2021, 12:52:02 PM
Okay question for you DIY savants.

For this pedalboard, I'm integrating the power and instrument cable jacks into the board along these lines:

(https://i.imgur.com/5YIS2ui.png)

It will have one instrument cable input on right side, and two outputs on the left.

I had the idea that I could dismember my ABY pedal and integrate it into the pedalboard itself. Is that plausible? James1214 tells me I'll have shielding/noise issues. Basically I want to go from this:

(https://www.radialeng.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/BigShot-ABY-thumb-768x844.png)

to something like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/0keo9ao.png)

(^ this is a highly precise engineering schematic of the pedalboard, viewed from above)

What do you think, doable?

Are you trying to delete that Radial Bigshot or incorporate it?  If you're deleting it then you'll have ground hum probably. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 15, 2021, 07:06:59 PM
Quote from: neighbor664 on April 15, 2021, 03:40:54 PM
I think she's going to be okay.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210415/5846cbe37a9f2256cd5fb016de063361.jpg)

Being able to have this much float and still be dead stable is a challenge even without damage or repairs.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210415/954b75345577606f5f9a0196d6eb4efd.jpg)
good to hear. sweet guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 15, 2021, 08:25:32 PM
Eh. Fenders bounce. Gibson's break. Unfortunately I like Gibsons. But have bolt-ons too. I'd rather drop one of those.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 15, 2021, 08:33:05 PM
my fender jazz can take some abuse. i look at it like a muscle car. like a chevy, theres tons of hotrod parts and original parts always available. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 15, 2021, 08:39:21 PM
I think that's why this damage was so unexpected. after 29 years of abuse I'd come to take it for grated that it was near indestructible. I have another Strat(Squire) that had been thrown by it's original owner from a 3rd floor balcony at his wife's moving car down below. It suffered little more than a bent tuner.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 15, 2021, 10:24:13 PM
That fuckn bitch!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 15, 2021, 10:30:08 PM
it had to be pretty bad, whatever it was that she did.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 15, 2021, 10:38:12 PM
I think she had the audacity to go buy groceries instead of take him to score junk.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 15, 2021, 10:41:11 PM
the nerve of some people.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 16, 2021, 11:47:53 AM
Quote from: RAGER on April 15, 2021, 07:02:34 PM
Are you trying to delete that Radial Bigshot or incorporate it?  If you're deleting it then you'll have ground hum probably. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

I'm not sure I grasp exactly what you're asking but I think the answer is "incorporate" rather than delete. Since the instrument input and outputs are integrated into the board, it makes intuitive sense to me to integrate the ABY switching as well. It'll look rad and will free up hella real estate on the board.

Basically my idea is to open up the ABY, and see if I can detach the LEDs and switches and run longer wires from the pedal's enclosure to the lights and switches, which I'll embed in the board itself. Affix the pedal enclosure to the bottom of the board, and tape over the gaps and exposed wiring with faraday tape or something.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 16, 2021, 01:27:49 PM
"and will free up hella real estate on the board."

Ok.  This is the answer.


Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 16, 2021, 02:29:42 PM
pulled the trigger on a two notes captor X so I could use my ORANGE THUNDERVERB tube amp and fuzz pedals
DEMO OFIT:
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 17, 2021, 09:29:26 AM
LP Studio is fully rewired and fully functional.

Passed initial tests on stage rig, tho the tone pots seem a little microphonic and pick up lots of jostling noise.

New bridge pickup (Rio Grande BBQ) didn't seem as "hot" as it should be but have since raised it.

Re: the extra tone pot noise, I did completely gut the thing and even removed the metal plate the previous pots mounted to. Not sure if that has anything to do with anything. The only thing I didn't change out electronics-wise was the neck pickup (57 Classic).

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Ordered parts to rewire the Paul Stanley Iceman next. Two separate orders from Emerson and StewMac to find everything (weird parts shortages)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Roodbaerd on April 18, 2021, 08:37:40 AM
My band King Drive finally got to do (sort of) a gig again. The spotlight is in Dutch and I hope the actual gig is released soon.

It was part of a local competition so we could use some votes. (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=nl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.p60.nl%2Fpopprijs)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 18, 2021, 07:17:08 PM
looks like the band is going to resume activities in may sometime. im looking forward to playing. im going to be pretty out of shape but i need it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Roodbaerd on April 20, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
The two songs we did were posted today.

It's still possible to vote here (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=nl&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.p60.nl%2Fpopprijs).
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 21, 2021, 08:08:20 PM
Rest of parts come in tomorrow to rewire the Paul Stanley Iceman.

I'm apprehensive now to rewire the 79 as well. It came with coil taps and after market pickups so I'm not worried about ruining any vintage wiring.

What I am concerned about is if I swap out the electronics will it change the sound of the guitar in any way?

It's been perfect forever and the original pots/wiring is still solid, so it doesn't need it anyway.

The LP and PS Iceman however, both needed it BAD. (Wiring issues after years of Frankensteining them)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 21, 2021, 08:45:48 PM
If the taper is ok. If the tone control works to your liking. If there's no glitches in the switches and no jack cut out then I'd leave it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on April 22, 2021, 02:28:52 PM
Yeah, I'd leave it just because it's not necessary.  Not related to collectibility.  Because fuck those lawyers, and those dealer douchebags too.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 22, 2021, 05:04:43 PM
Got into a conversation with a guy on Imgur who claims to have a '57 Goldtop.  All gold. Back and neck also with Lifton OHSC. Has never heard of HIWATT amps and didn't know about The Who live at Isle of Wight. Huh?  That's about a $100k guitar.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 22, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
Don't tell anyone, but there are fewer MIJ 1979 Icemen then there are 59 LP's.

Only 330 were made per year between 1977 and 1979.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 22, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
I probably wouldn't route it for a Floyd or anything like that
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 23, 2021, 04:28:08 PM
Would probably increase the value as they are not exactly "in demand" hahaha


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 24, 2021, 09:35:01 AM
Paul Stanley Iceman is rewired. Not as pretty as the Emerson harness but it works! Mostly

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210424/c5d92fc63342b4a2bb7b999b00b1aee4.jpg)


For some reason middle position on toggle switch is still just neck pickup instead of both mixed together.

I'm ok with this. I only use either the neck or the bridge pup, and if I'm not using the neck I roll the volume off and use the toggle as a kill switch.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 25, 2021, 02:37:09 AM
Hey if it works.

So I went to a hang/jam thing tonight. My best friends house who is a bass player but has the whole set up so anybody can play. Everybody is vaxxed so fukn cool. It was fukn great. Beside me there were 2 other guitar players so I just played drums for the most part. One dude is a pedal reviewer so he had all manner of shit. Played a little jazz too. I can kinda fake it on drums.

First time hanging with peeps.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 25, 2021, 12:11:19 PM
Man, that is awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on April 25, 2021, 12:33:52 PM
That must have felt amazing. 
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Post by: renfield on April 25, 2021, 02:11:17 PM
That's awesome.

The 3/5 of my band that is still in my band because they're not anti mask/vax shitheads are all inoculated (noc'd up?) so we've been practicing again. God damn it feels good.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 25, 2021, 07:27:10 PM
thats awesome. im about to resume soon. im fully vaxxed as of tomorrow. the drummer had covid back in november so i think he has natural immunity. the gtr/vox guy has not been vaxxed but says he will. im more of a risk to him than he is to me and he wants to jam so im going to do it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 27, 2021, 01:09:08 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/f710f124fd9c90bb09cc863387e0217a.jpg)

Still needs rubber feet, but finally completed my by pedalboard!


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 29, 2021, 09:58:12 AM
Does anyone know where the tripod to my zoom h1 is? I cant find it anywhere. Fuck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 29, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
FUCK

do you have these rubber thingies? work like a charm

(https://i.imgur.com/Br9XCrQ.png)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on April 29, 2021, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: Danny G on April 27, 2021, 01:09:08 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210427/f710f124fd9c90bb09cc863387e0217a.jpg)

Still needs rubber feet, but finally completed my by pedalboard!


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Kudos for a pedal board where you've built half the pedals yourself!
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on April 29, 2021, 09:06:27 PM
Thank you!

There'd be more home-builds but half the shit I build doesn't work haha grrrr

Have tried to build like 4 Orange Squeezers to replace the MXR CAE boost. None of em worked.

Will finally try my hand and building a Blues Driver clone. My current DIY modded version has slayed every other dirt box I've built.

The wah is modded to hell too \m/,


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on May 18, 2021, 07:54:46 PM
question for the people in bands who sell merch on line. what do you use? or do you use several different options? what is / has worked best?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 22, 2021, 08:38:07 PM
FINALLY have the new Presonus board fully up and running.

Linked it to Logic no prob but could not for the life of me get it to where you could actually HEAR any of the sound going through it on headphones, monitors or mains.

Read the manual. Searched some forums. Watched some videos. Printed out the addendum for Logic which didn't come with the manual.

What was never explained in any of these processes is you have to hit the USB button, then MAINS, then LINK to have it in stereo.

Bloody fucking hell.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on May 22, 2021, 11:05:17 PM
hope it works. Do you capture a safety backup session is that n the works?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on May 26, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
Quote from: Danny G on May 22, 2021, 08:38:07 PM
FINALLY have the new Presonus board fully up and running.

Linked it to Logic no prob but could not for the life of me get it to where you could actually HEAR any of the sound going through it on headphones, monitors or mains.

Read the manual. Searched some forums. Watched some videos. Printed out the addendum for Logic which didn't come with the manual.

What was never explained in any of these processes is you have to hit the USB button, then MAINS, then LINK to have it in stereo.

Bloody fucking hell.


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I've been using Logic with various AIs for years and everything you just wrote is chinese to me
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on May 27, 2021, 02:31:29 PM
I've been a caveman as far as recording technology so this has def been a weird process.

Finally started dabbling with the virtual instruments in Logic which has been a fun rabbit hole.

Record a basic track to a click and add a drummer. And an R&B horn section. And a Cuban percussion ensemble.

It sounds impressively good.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on May 30, 2021, 09:51:23 AM
I love pedals, I hate pedals, my pedalboard is never right, my pedalboard is complete.....no its not.  >:( ;D ::)
arrgh, fuck, kill.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 04, 2021, 01:41:10 AM
Gonna have to clean up a bit after the last year and a half of nobody but me in my jam space.  Might be having some people over in the future. Ya never know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 04, 2021, 09:43:22 AM
I thought my pedalboard was complete, but finally getting back to full band rehearsals and actually trying out all the shit I've been building.

Kind of bummed that the dual Phase 90 clone I built (phase 90 with stomp switch for 2 diff rate pots) doesn't exactly sound like my Phase 90. Will tweak the bias pot and hope that remedies.

Phase 90 is a pedal ive built many of and none of them sound as good as store-bought.

I may just have to hack an existing phase 90 board. There are 2 main settings I use: knob at 9:30 + R28 for slow loud swish, and knob at 11:30 - R28 for a more Univibe sound.

Basically a phase 90 with a second stomp switch which selects between 2 rate knobs with R28 in/out of circuit depending on which setting, and additional red/green LEDs to let you know which setting you are on.

Seems totally doable in theory, but having problems with it >:(


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 04, 2021, 06:26:28 PM
I was watching a bass vid on steve swallow/jazz and the dude was showing off a riff and walking line. He talked about how, as your stringing the walking line together, you can use a 'cromatic approach note'.
No more bad out of key notes for me. They are now called cromatic approach notes.

Stoked!!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on June 05, 2021, 02:45:50 AM
I'd never heard of him so I'm late. I listened to some tunes. are you off into jazz now? I'm guessing that note expression you are taling about will push the music? just aksing

Hey, I might have a lucky score coming on a new bass you would freak if I got it. I'd actually have to learn some new bass if I got it. Starting from zero but this is evern better. Thanks!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on June 05, 2021, 03:55:14 AM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 05, 2021, 10:10:20 AM
Quote from: Muffin Man on June 05, 2021, 02:45:50 AM
I'd never heard of him so I'm late. I listened to some tunes. are you off into jazz now? I'm guessing that note expression you are taling about will push the music? just aksing

Hey, I might have a lucky score coming on a new bass you would freak if I got it. I'd actually have to learn some new bass if I got it. Starting from zero but this is evern better. Thanks!
ive been a jazz head for decades. Thats where the real deal is. I love avant garde free jazz. The more wacked out the better. I love how the line between noise and jazz is blurred in the extreme free jazz. Is borbetomagus jazz or noise?? Hope you score that bass and check out 'coltranes spit' for a small taste of some smokin free noise from my band live back in 2019 i just posted. I stumbled into jazz from my love of all things zappa and capt beefheart.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on June 05, 2021, 10:08:26 PM
excellent. I dig the noiser side myself. Also the Cobham type stuff. Also big on Rahsaan Roland Kirk.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on June 06, 2021, 01:50:43 AM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 07, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
anybody know a good guitar tech who can modify my jazz bass to be like the tractor bass?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on June 09, 2021, 10:29:31 AM
Quote from: mortlock on June 07, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
anybody know a good guitar tech who can modify my jazz bass to be like the tractor bass?

Greg Platzer at BCR guitars https://bcrmusic.com/
He is amazing and often works with top artists.  He would like this kind of project.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 09, 2021, 12:42:22 PM
No expense spared.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on June 09, 2021, 07:28:59 PM
Quote from: Submarine on June 09, 2021, 10:29:31 AM
Quote from: mortlock on June 07, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
anybody know a good guitar tech who can modify my jazz bass to be like the tractor bass?

Greg Platzer at BCR guitars https://bcrmusic.com/
He is amazing and often works with top artists.  He would like this kind of project.
thats actually possible. hes in driving distance to me. thanks man.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 10, 2021, 01:21:31 AM
Tone is in the fingers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on June 10, 2021, 05:37:51 AM
chasing the dragon and why not
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 10, 2021, 11:52:28 AM
If that jazz bass is your #1, tried and true, why mess around with a good thing. Find a nice Squier jazz or another bass and modify that.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on June 10, 2021, 12:28:21 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on June 10, 2021, 01:21:31 AM
Tone is in the fingers.

I've been trying to figure out the hierarchy of tone.  I think the fingers are the primary source of tone, guitar 2nd, amp 3rd, pedals/fx being last. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on June 10, 2021, 01:22:07 PM
It goes in order from most to least expensive. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on June 10, 2021, 01:44:03 PM
tone is in the power source. i prefer to only play on amps powered by thermonuclear reactors
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 10, 2021, 02:20:14 PM
Your cables have to be oriented in the right direction.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 10, 2021, 03:36:20 PM
Apparently I am the only one here who understands directional signal flow. Check your cables! One side is IN, the other side is OUT.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on June 10, 2021, 03:37:06 PM
Thank you ^^all^^ for correcting me.  Tone is in the wallet.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 12, 2021, 10:53:04 AM
Can confirm the cable polarity thing, I used to think it was just schizo-affective disorder on Eric Johnson's part.

Was doing an album project in a swank millions of dollars studio. We had some time to kill setting up and guitarist was talking about it.

So we tried out *all* of my cables in the pristine acoustics of the studio.

I'll be damned. It's very subtle, but it's there.

It won't make it break your tone by itself, but it's something to consider.

I also realized the main speaker cables I'd been using sounded "flabby" compared to the shorter cables I kept as backups.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 12, 2021, 10:57:13 AM
Eric Johnson can tell what kind of batteries are in his fuzz face - alkaline or cadmium (wait, are those the two types...) He likes the vintage type.
Title: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 12, 2021, 11:29:08 AM
Years back EJ was sound checking at the previous Antones location.

He would chug some bass heavy chords, then point to spots in the ceiling rafters 30 feet above.

They had a tech on a very high ladder stuffing bar napkins in the problem areas until they stopped rattling. This process was repeated until they got them all.

The guy who ran sound and telling me the story: "It seemed excessive at the time, but I gotta say... the room sounded better after that."


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on June 12, 2021, 01:03:05 PM
Tone is in the ear of the beerholder.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on June 20, 2021, 09:44:28 AM
Tone is stored in the Tonads.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Lumpy on June 21, 2021, 08:48:20 PM
This guy shows how to get the Exodus guitar tone (at home) with EQ's etc. I love the high, scratchy tone that cuts through. His channel has a bunch of these "how to sound like ____" classic thrash band videos.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on June 21, 2021, 09:41:47 PM
My Reverend whammy bar guitar is so fun, also, it's a "good one". Can brutalize the dive bar and it comes back to in-tune every time. Incredibly useful.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on June 25, 2021, 11:28:04 AM
Cool. I unlike many others really like Diver Down. I hate these pre orders on these guitars though. Canceled the Frankenstrat purchase. Taking too long and the price went up $200. Now there an Alex Lifeson Epi Les Paul that looks really nice but pre order of course.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on June 25, 2021, 11:45:30 AM
I've always been a fan of the "Super Strats".  Fun to play and feels better in my hands.  If only they made a Les Paul with the dimensions of the Strat neck. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 05, 2021, 02:14:16 PM
Wife spilled water on my Big Sky last night. I sprang into action and saved it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 05, 2021, 08:08:17 PM
grounds for divorce. 
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Post by: mortlock on August 05, 2021, 08:09:02 PM
springing into action and saving it, that is.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: neighbor664 on August 06, 2021, 01:18:16 PM
Of the group of guys I sometimes jam with, three of the four of us currently have hand injuries limiting our abilities to play for a while. My brother (bass) is having tendon trouble in his right hand. I have a broken index finger on my left. Our drummer friend has a bad burn on his hand too now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 06, 2021, 04:47:35 PM
That sucks. Quick recovery to all of yous.

My biggest source of pain is my picking hand thumb joint where the thumb attaches to the hand. Years of picking have fucked that joint up to the point where it always hurts. It actually woke me up last night it was hurting so bad and i didnt even play yesterday.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 07, 2021, 06:11:30 PM
Hahaha!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/k4Y8hRw.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 09, 2021, 07:56:57 PM
the dilemma i was worried about just landed. one of the main venues in my city just put a proof of vaccination to enter policy in place. im vaxxed and quite frankly fine with the decision. of my 2 band mates, one is vaxxed and the other is not. he had covid last year and is fine. his gf is a nurse and is vaxxed so i dont think he is dead set against it but i can tell from convos that hes not into getting it right now.
hes a friend and im not his mother so i dont push my opinions too hard. however now things are different. this can and will have a neg impact on the bands ability to play out. we scrape up shows as it is. im sure more venues will follow. if he remains unwilling this will mean we probably wont be playing out. which is unacceptable. im sure im not the only person in a band that is going to go through this.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 09, 2021, 09:05:44 PM
I ain't fucking playing out. Shits spreading like wildfire in Texas, even among the vaccinated.

Drummer of a project now has it. His 17yo son too. Drummer is vaxxed, don't know about the son.

None of my dumb bands are worth risking the health of the ones you love.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on August 09, 2021, 09:06:36 PM
I currently know more people who have it or just got over it than an at other time is this whole damn mess.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Dylan Thomas on August 21, 2021, 06:32:12 AM
Dang man, that's tough to hear.  It's not that bad up here right now, like I know one person who has had it recently.  Last winter, it was brutal.  Hang in there, and I hope that things improve down there!
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Post by: Submarine on September 02, 2021, 10:02:29 PM
I may have finished my pedalboard.  Now i just need Covid to end so I can rehearse with people and use it.(https://i.ibb.co/XkFNQ2G/pedalboard-Sept2021.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XkFNQ2G)
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Post by: RAGER on September 04, 2021, 12:42:56 PM
Still using a pedal tuner huh?  I really like the headstock tuners. Some don't like the aesthetic to the point it angers them that one would play live with one still attached to the headstock. I get worked up when I see drinks on amps.

Do you have any problem hitting your compressor or does it just stay on?
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Post by: Submarine on September 04, 2021, 04:40:13 PM
This compressor stays on always because it adds a touch of color and grit that I like.  I have the mix knob at 55% wet so the original signal is still in there.  I'm not into the tuner on headstock thing only because I think it looks weird.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on September 04, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
Snark clip on tuners are great for tuning pre show in a pinch, but I always either (a) lose them or (b) break them


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 08, 2021, 07:57:53 PM
theres a music store going out of business sale this sat that im going to. not sure ill find anything but ill report back if i make a good score. last i heard there was an acoustic 4x10 bass cab there for not too much. its probably gone. im pretty sure the place has been picked clean. ill be happy if i score a pack of bass strings for a discount.
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Post by: mortlock on October 09, 2021, 07:23:39 PM
didnt get the cab but strings were buy one get one free. i snagged these.
(https://i.ibb.co/yRFzcfD/20211009-182513.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yRFzcfD)
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Post by: Pissy on October 10, 2021, 09:06:05 AM
Nice.  I managed to clean out all of the best buy's in Charlotte of all their Ernie Ball Bass Slinky's when they decided providing music equipment was an overreach and put all that stuff on clearance.  $5/pack.   Still have a pack I haven't used yet. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 19, 2021, 08:07:02 PM
i dont know if a band has ever done this before but i suspect it probably has. im thinking of doing an open mic night tour and just randomly showing up at various places open mic nights with the band and playing for whatever their time limit is. just in my area at first but it could technically be expanded anywhere. world open mic tour 2022!!
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Post by: Pissy on October 20, 2021, 06:17:44 PM
Tom Morello does that as The Nightwatchman
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Post by: Danny G on October 21, 2021, 09:13:43 AM
Guerilla touring.

Dig.


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 22, 2021, 12:21:40 PM
I just learned that DiMarzio holds a trademark on double cream humbuckers.
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Post by: mortlock on October 23, 2021, 08:07:11 PM
im now jamming bass through my peavey bandit 1x12. that amp kicks ass for bass. sounds as good as my ampeg rocket that just died.
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Post by: RAGER on October 24, 2021, 12:26:30 PM
Just for home?  Not loud enough for a drummer though.
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Post by: mortlock on October 24, 2021, 07:28:43 PM
its loud af. no problem for living room jams with the full band. i have more headroom than i did with my ampeg that was damn near maxxed out to hear it. probably half the reason it died.
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Post by: bbottom on October 26, 2021, 03:28:48 PM
For the past few months my band (mostly me) have been putting out a podcast on Spotify called "Super Action Talk". We play a bunch of songs from a wide variety of genres and talk a ton of shit.
The big thing that we're doing now is running a bracket for the Worst cover song of all time. This week it's Lenny Kravitz "American Woman" vs Ozzy's cover of "Mississippi Queen".  The first weeks songs of "Simple Man" by Shinedown and "Whiskey in the Jar....O" from Metallica kind of turned into a shit show. But we had a ton of fun with it.



We been running the polls in the bands Instagram stories @massdriverband and on our facebook page.

And in case you ever run out of podcasts to listen to. You can listen to ours here
https://open.spotify.com/show/716G31eCV1tGa9glvWu6Ok?si=fccd2f6ea8af4698 (https://open.spotify.com/show/716G31eCV1tGa9glvWu6Ok?si=fccd2f6ea8af4698)

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Post by: mortlock on October 27, 2021, 09:32:34 PM
im not sure if i like this or not.
(https://i.ibb.co/cJTrs45/turantula-les-paul.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cJTrs45)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 28, 2021, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: bbottom on October 26, 2021, 03:28:48 PM
For the past few months my band (mostly me) have been putting out a podcast on Spotify called "Super Action Talk". We play a bunch of songs from a wide variety of genres and talk a ton of shit.
The big thing that we're doing now is running a bracket for the Worst cover song of all time. This week it's Lenny Kravitz "American Woman" vs Ozzy's cover of "Mississippi Queen".  The first weeks songs of "Simple Man" by Shinedown and "Whiskey in the Jar....O" from Metallica kind of turned into a shit show. But we had a ton of fun with it.



We been running the polls in the bands Instagram stories @massdriverband and on our facebook page.

And in case you ever run out of podcasts to listen to. You can listen to ours here
https://open.spotify.com/show/716G31eCV1tGa9glvWu6Ok?si=fccd2f6ea8af4698 (https://open.spotify.com/show/716G31eCV1tGa9glvWu6Ok?si=fccd2f6ea8af4698)

This is pretty cool.  Did you know I moved to Johnson City?  Been here since June 2020.
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Post by: RAGER on October 29, 2021, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: mortlock on October 27, 2021, 09:32:34 PM
im not sure if i like this or not.
(https://i.ibb.co/cJTrs45/turantula-les-paul.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cJTrs45)

It's Les Paul shaped so there's that. But what is it? 
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Post by: mortlock on October 29, 2021, 07:45:08 PM
its a real tarantula, deceased obviously, encased in some sort of resin, backlit with leds and put in the neck pup position (obvs). i kind of like it but something about a dead tarantula weirds me out.
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Post by: bbottom on October 30, 2021, 07:41:56 AM
Quote from: Pissy on October 28, 2021, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: bbottom on October 26, 2021, 03:28:48 PM
For the past few months my band (mostly me) have been putting out a podcast on Spotify called "Super Action Talk". We play a bunch of songs from a wide variety of genres and talk a ton of shit.
The big thing that we're doing now is running a bracket for the Worst cover song of all time. This week it's Lenny Kravitz "American Woman" vs Ozzy's cover of "Mississippi Queen".  The first weeks songs of "Simple Man" by Shinedown and "Whiskey in the Jar....O" from Metallica kind of turned into a shit show. But we had a ton of fun with it.



We been running the polls in the bands Instagram stories @massdriverband and on our facebook page.

And in case you ever run out of podcasts to listen to. You can listen to ours here
https://open.spotify.com/show/716G31eCV1tGa9glvWu6Ok?si=fccd2f6ea8af4698 (https://open.spotify.com/show/716G31eCV1tGa9glvWu6Ok?si=fccd2f6ea8af4698)

This is pretty cool.  Did you know I moved to Johnson City?  Been here since June 2020.
No I didn't. That's cool man. What do you think of it? We'll play up there from time to time. Usually at the hideaway.


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Post by: Pissy on November 01, 2021, 07:27:25 AM
I like the small town aspect vs Charlotte.  Haven't ventured out to venues yet.  The Hideaway doesn't post anything calendar related to anything but Facebook and I'm not in there, so it's tough to know what's going on.  No marquee either.  And since their shows are from 10-3am a little unattractive to me. 

Downtown is a little gunshot crazy right now.  Bunch of businesses in an uproar.  I think that's happening all over the country right now though.
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Post by: bbottom on November 01, 2021, 08:58:34 AM
The Hideaway is on Instagram at _thehideaway_ if you're on there.

Capones will have decent bands from time to time. There is a "club" in the backside of that place where all of the college kids go. I wish the bands played in that area instead of the front. The room looks like it's something out of the Matrix and has a much cooler vibe.

I haven't spent a ton of time in Johnson City except for when we've played there. They do have a couple of cool music stores downtown that I'll check out if we have time. And there is a German bar/ restaurant that we'll usually grab a drink at before a show that's worth checking out. 
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Post by: Danny G on November 02, 2021, 10:23:49 AM
Getting to field test string brands now that I have some shows to play.

Trying DR Pure Blues vs GHS Burnished Nickel Rockers, 10-46 in E standard. 2 sets of each, alternating brands between string changes.

No obviously noticeable diff in sound, but the DRs seem to stay in tune a little better.

The plus of the GHS is on the high strings the little pokey end that sticks out from where the ball end is tied is *much* smoother and I don't have to be as meticulous on orienting them such that the pokey end isn't sticking out (they tear into my pinky finger).

Have one more set of GHS for the following weekend and will complete my findings then.

So far advantage: DR

Taking a little extra time when changing strings to properly orient those lil pokey fuckers is worth not having to tune between every goddam song.


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Post by: RAGER on November 03, 2021, 10:37:50 AM
I've been using Beefy Slinky's on my drop tuning guitars for years and have always used Regulars on my standard and tremolo set ups for even longer. My number 1 needs a string change. I'll do that today.

Haven't fired up the big rigs in a few weeks. I'll do that today too.
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Post by: Danny G on November 05, 2021, 10:54:29 AM
I've never had good luck with Ernie Balls but know tons of folks who swear by them.


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Post by: RAGER on November 05, 2021, 01:19:58 PM
I edited the typos and autocorrect so my last post sounds like a sane person.

Anywho, while I did all that I realized I had my Chase Bliss Automatone on my upstairs HIWATT rig so I grabbed my old Dirty Little Secret. Used to be my #1 OD pedal. Man that thing rips. Now I remember why I used it so much but....nothing beats the versatility of the Automatone. That and I've been using  Mr. Black Super Extra Five Thousand.

I have a lot of pedals.
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Post by: Danny G on November 06, 2021, 11:47:53 AM
I currently have 10 on my main board haha ugh.

Used to use my DIY Keeley modded Blues Driver as all-in-one dirt. But realized I needed a lower gear OD too which a DIY Klon Centaur is covering nicely.

Then I got into fuzz and liked the raunch of the Creepy Fingers Harakiri, while also enjoying the butteriness of a DIY germanium fuzz face.

2 ODs, 2 fuzzes. And don't really even stack them. Each pedal is its own sound.


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Post by: RAGER on November 06, 2021, 01:53:44 PM
That four dirt pedals scenario is one reason I like the Automatone.
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Post by: Danny G on November 12, 2021, 12:47:01 PM
Stumbled onto a cool and fun tuning for a remote recording project.

Needed to re-record some guitars, but the original is on a 7 or 8 stringer and in C

Tried tuning a guitar to C G C on the bottom strings. Then tuned the B string to C

So the guitar is C G C G C E

Strings are flapping in the breeze but it's been fun playing around with it. Probably an old blues slide tuning that's been around for 100 years.


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Post by: Submarine on November 13, 2021, 03:36:08 PM
Quote from: Danny G on November 12, 2021, 12:47:01 PM
So the guitar is C G C G C E

pretty sure that is the Jimmy Page Bron-Y-Aur tuning.
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Post by: RAGER on November 13, 2021, 04:23:29 PM
C F C F A C is Bron y aur
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Post by: Submarine on November 13, 2021, 05:18:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 13, 2021, 04:23:29 PM
C F C F A C is Bron y aur
I was wrong by one string, Bron Y Aur is CACGCE.....at least the way I learned it. But to the original point, I love that low C on an acoustic guitar.
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Post by: RAGER on November 14, 2021, 09:14:56 AM
I'll try that tuning too.
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Post by: Danny G on November 14, 2021, 11:01:08 AM
I thought page liked DADGAD tuning.

Here's a first: my D string the wrapping had separated and was in sections on the string.

Noticed this literally 3 seconds before we began the set so there was not much I could do but hope for the best.

String was dead but held the entire set.

Have a backup guitar and extra strings but they were all in the trunk of a car some distance away (very very small venue).

The singer kept wanting me to solo more to fill out extra time hahaha fuck.


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Post by: Danny G on November 16, 2021, 08:56:04 AM
So out of curiosity and general laziness I played the Paul Stanley Iceman instead of my main 79 Iceman for the next show.

Have had the PS since 1996 but the 79 has been my undisputed main guitar since getting it in 2004.

The 79 has a 50s baseball bat neck and slightly arched top and thicker body over the slimline PS. Have also had lots of problems with the PS over the years.

But fuck it, see what happens.

Was fine but felt weird and was struggling with it a bit. Still has some tuning issues, tho it's tuning keys (updated Grovers) felt much smoother and nicer than the originals on the 79 haha.

The bridge pickup (early 2000s Rio Grande BBQ) didn't have the same punch as the 79's SD Custom 5, but may just be the guitar itself.

Neck pickup was alright, tho neck pickup has been a long-standing issue with the PS. Currently have what I think is a 490T SG bridge pickup, because everything else ive tried (even my preferred 57 Classic) has sounded muddy.

With the lighting band mates didn't even realize I was playing a different guitar at first hahaha

Was fun to finally bust it out as Amber from Southern Gun Culture was on bass and that was my main guitar back then \m/,

But long story short, the 79 blows the Paul Stanley out of the water and I need to just change strings more often


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Post by: RAGER on November 16, 2021, 09:08:54 AM
If you'd have left that guitar in a trunk around here the tweaked would've sniffed it out and stole it. I keep hearing that shit every week it seems. Why leave your stuff in a car?  It's as good as gone.
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Post by: Danny G on November 16, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
Ordinarily would have had both on hand with spare in the case. This place was so small there was literally no room for anything extra.

Car was parked in the venue lot in full view of the open front door so felt safe-ish at least.


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Post by: neighbor664 on December 22, 2021, 11:30:22 PM
Weird! An old friend may be the new singer for Smashmouth.
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Post by: RAGER on December 23, 2021, 12:23:33 PM
My condolences.


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Post by: neighbor664 on December 23, 2021, 02:06:30 PM
Actually, him getting in is pretty neat and a bit of an FU to normies. A huge Zappa fan who may take perverse pleasure in singing a Volman Kaylan song. Him  auditioning makes sense. For a long time I've said that his biggest shortcoming as a singer is that he has a tendency to sound like the SM guy. Some say the key to success is to take your weaknesses and make them your strengths. This may be one of those cases.
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Post by: renfield on January 07, 2022, 05:48:23 PM
Today, I will finish recording a song that I have been working on for a while.

(posting here make the deadline real)
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Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2022, 09:12:18 AM
Well?
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Post by: mortlock on January 08, 2022, 09:40:25 AM
Missed the deadline apparently.
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Post by: renfield on January 12, 2022, 08:26:37 PM
yep. stuck on the guitar solo
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Post by: neighbor664 on January 14, 2022, 08:58:27 AM
My latest thing has been applying the same discipline and persistence to practicing vocals as I have towards my guitar playing. I feel this was sort of kicked into gear when I'd broke my finger and started doing karaoke to fill the void.
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Post by: RAGER on January 22, 2022, 07:16:36 PM
Got to ham with some peeps last night. I was the only one who could play drums so I was relegated to the kit all night. Always a room full of guitar and bass players.
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Post by: Danny G on February 09, 2022, 09:57:08 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220209/5664b84633a208c58692ec04819fd1c6.jpg)

Getting back to work here. Remote recording some bass tracks for Big Mean (ex-Love Mound). Later this week recording the pedal steel player for the Heather Bishop albums. Cautiously getting back into gigs as the Austincron surge seems to be winding down 


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Post by: neighbor664 on February 13, 2022, 05:41:00 PM
Anyone on here using the Acapella app?
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Post by: Pissy on February 14, 2022, 01:27:47 PM
You looking to collaborate? 
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Post by: neighbor664 on February 14, 2022, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: Pissy on February 14, 2022, 01:27:47 PM
You looking to collaborate?
On a few different fronts.
Doing jazz standards with my brothers. Finding a female voice for my Americana tunes.
And doing some heavier stuff as well, if anybody needs vocals, guitar or bass.


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Post by: bbottom on March 11, 2022, 10:08:44 AM
I'm super pumped that we're opening for Atomic Bitchwax next week. They've been one of my favorite bands for a very long time so I am really looking forward to it. Especially after the madness of the past two years




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Post by: Danny G on March 21, 2022, 10:06:33 AM
We still have your track on standby Neighbor. Crazy busy and it was just SXSW. But soon \m/,


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Post by: RAGER on March 22, 2022, 07:58:38 PM
Great video. I've never really believed much in tone woods for electrics. The sound is the electronics, pups, amps, pedals.

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Post by: everdrone on March 22, 2022, 08:01:10 PM
went on hiatus for awhile not being in a band and just doing career stuff...now I am back in a band, I am usually lead singer that plays some rhythm so I am doing that again.  Funny how everyone is getting back into music now covid is over...cheers mates :D

I was just starting to get into writing for my solo project and getting gear for that to get ready for a heavy rock/doom/sludge type thing that my Orange Thunderverb 50 would excel in, heavy riffage type band like Down, Sabbath etc...so maybe I can do both once the cover band lifts off...still gonna make quick recordings, whatever comes out in an hour or two on Sundays most likely
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Post by: everdrone on March 22, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
bitchwax wow cool!  famous touring band been around awhile...let us know how the gig goes cheers :D
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Post by: RAGER on May 05, 2022, 02:19:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/14BbKk4.jpg)

I've been playing the HIWATT mostly lately of course. Mostly through with this 4x12 I got a couple months back or the Yorkville 1x12. Thought I'd go back to just the 10's in the amp. Nothin. Had to re solder the plug from the speakers.

Sounds great but ya know, 10's. Then I thought huh what about the 4x12 AND the 1x12. The amp has a 4 ohm tap. Bam!! 

Sounds huge!  Fun stuff. Love this amp.
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Post by: everdrone on May 07, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
wow cool stack!  Zepp tones and awesome stoner doom goodness  8)
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Post by: Muffin Man on May 07, 2022, 09:05:14 PM
that is a cool collection of blistering tools RAGER has. I've been eyeballing Reeves for decades, from the little combo to the big heads. I could use a little combo, lemme get to that. One or two of the best amps I ever had was one or the other of a couple 2x10 open back combo's. frightening when the EL84's were dimed. I had a (original company) VHT 1x12 combo, could almost want that one back.
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Post by: mortlock on May 08, 2022, 12:55:17 AM
that marshall is a ligit museum piece.
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Post by: RAGER on May 08, 2022, 10:14:09 AM
The Brown Sound.

I also have a VHT Special 6 1x10 combo. Sounds pretty good through that Yorkville 1x12.
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Post by: mortlock on June 05, 2022, 07:43:28 PM
its finally happening. got my bands first show on the books slated for the end of july. waiting on a few details before the official announcement. we havent played live since november 2019. ill give away one hint. if you live in the states, you will need a passport to see us.
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Post by: Danny G on June 10, 2022, 06:48:01 PM
Nice!


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Post by: RAGER on June 10, 2022, 10:43:26 PM
Get video dude! 
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Post by: mortlock on June 14, 2022, 07:43:48 PM
https://www.facebook.com/events/694188858223479 (https://www.facebook.com/events/694188858223479)
Slinging trash in Toronto!!!!
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Post by: Pissy on June 26, 2022, 11:08:34 PM
Had Husky practice today for the first time in about 5 years.  Not much playing, mostly catching up with Nate.  But it felt good to make noise.  Now it's a 3 hr drive for me to get there, and it'll be about $70 in gas every time I go.  But it's still worth it. 
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Post by: RAGER on June 26, 2022, 11:13:26 PM
Rad dude! 

I drunkenly jammed with a neighbor who kinda plays drums the other night. He nearly peed himself when I showed him the "downstairs".

He's a normie.
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Post by: renfield on July 14, 2022, 03:43:45 PM
Guitar lesson from the dude from Arbouretum, whose lead playing is some of the best in the world in my opinion.



This stuff never helps me, I have never been able to think of music in terms of scales and modes. Colors and shapes baby, colors and shapes
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Post by: Danny G on July 15, 2022, 09:15:56 AM
I think of patterns. Like star patterns of constellations.

I don't know what fucking note I'm playing half the time. Either it's a right note or a wrong note.


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Post by: Danny G on July 19, 2022, 11:09:02 AM
First out of state gigs in a few years. Stoked!

Thunderosa running up to Ohio for the Van Nationals on Thursday, Cleveland on Friday, and Quincy IL on Saturday.

HOWEVER

I will be completely missing Ripple Fest. Every single day of it. And I live a mile from the venue. I could walk there.


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Post by: Pissy on August 01, 2022, 02:19:44 PM
Went to the local mom and pop to put a fender tweed case on order for this strat I just bought.  Said it would be 12 months before they could get one in.  I politely told them how much that sucks given I can get one online in a few days, and I'd rather keep my money local.  They understood. 


Amazon will have one to me by Thursday.


GC was no help either.  Said they sell as soon as they come in.
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Post by: RAGER on August 01, 2022, 02:38:32 PM
Did you check GFS? 

https://www.guitarfetish.com/Guitar-Cases-Fits-StratregTelereg_c_655.html
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Post by: Pissy on August 01, 2022, 03:10:31 PM
I didn't.  But it says Out of stock. Nice price, might have swayed me from the OEM.
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Post by: RAGER on August 01, 2022, 03:33:10 PM
I've heard they're very nice. The one that my Les Paul copy came in is nice. White guitar, white case with orange fur. It's like a creamsicle.
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Post by: Danny G on August 13, 2022, 12:34:53 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220813/95ae697b9b0d3db7286e75ac5c07b31f.jpg)

Custom pedalboard order. Guy asked if I could make the trim lime green, and turns out yes I can


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Post by: RAGER on August 13, 2022, 01:19:20 PM
Rad. Nice job.
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Post by: Danny G on August 13, 2022, 01:42:30 PM
Thanks! I haven't built one of these in YEARS.

And the process to paint the aluminum trim is the same as painting a pedal enclosure. Hello new crossover skill!


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Post by: James1214 on August 16, 2022, 01:02:50 AM
Looking good Danny! I can attest to how solid you build stuff, Jason's Hiwatt case was built like a tank, saw a fuckton of mileage and hardly showed any wear after years of abuse.

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Post by: mortlock on August 23, 2022, 06:37:10 PM
last night i got an offer to join an 'international' grindcore band. basically members from all over the world. i guess ill record all my bass parts and send the raw bass tracks to one of them who mixes everything together. drummer from oregon, vox from czech republic. more vox from germany. guitar from brazil. we will see where it goes. it would be cool if we recorded some cool shit and somehow ended up playing obscene extreme next year as a one off show. i think one of the members has the connections and played it this year.
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Post by: RAGER on August 23, 2022, 07:33:35 PM
Wow. That's rad dude. Drummer from Oregon?  I probably know him. Lol.
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Post by: mortlock on August 23, 2022, 07:37:18 PM
you ever hear of these bands? badxmouth, immoral majority or rotting slab? i believe that person plays various instruments in those bands.
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Post by: Submarine on August 25, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Just having the ability to be able to do this opens up so many possibilities.  I hope you get some cool results.
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Post by: mortlock on August 27, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
i am super stoked. we just got asked to play this.
https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404 (https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404)
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Post by: Muffin Man on August 27, 2022, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 27, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
i am super stoked. we just got asked to play this.
https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404 (https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404)

wow that looks huge.
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Post by: mortlock on August 27, 2022, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Muffin Man on August 27, 2022, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 27, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
i am super stoked. we just got asked to play this.
https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404 (https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404)

wow that looks huge.
lots of out of town bands coming in. lots of regional acts. very stoked!!
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Post by: Muffin Man on August 27, 2022, 11:19:10 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 27, 2022, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Muffin Man on August 27, 2022, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: mortlock on August 27, 2022, 10:01:17 PM
i am super stoked. we just got asked to play this.
https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404 (https://www.facebook.com/events/434635331729404)

wow that looks huge.
lots of out of town bands coming in. lots of regional acts. very stoked!!

congratulations! and I hope there's a stream or vids. 7 days is an excellent thing!    very cool.
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Post by: mortlock on September 10, 2022, 09:35:36 PM
i cant even begin to tell you how annoying this is to me at band prac. my ocd is not pleased at all. im not sure you could twist the strap any more without fucking up the guitar.
(https://i.ibb.co/vmn8hy1/toms-strap.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vmn8hy1)

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Post by: RAGER on September 11, 2022, 11:52:44 AM
I use straps that are quite beefy for my Pauls.
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Post by: Danny G on September 11, 2022, 11:59:23 AM
Yeah. Like that old commercial, Wider Is Better


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Post by: mortlock on September 11, 2022, 07:22:09 PM
thats my point. that is a normal 2 inch width guitar strap that he has so twisted up it that its like a rope. annoys the shit out of me.
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Post by: Muffin Man on September 12, 2022, 02:01:38 AM
this is why we have to have velcro "shoelaces"
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Post by: Pissy on September 15, 2022, 07:46:53 PM
I dropped off my G&L El Toro to have the fretboard replaced.  Possibly the truss rod too. It's going to be expensive.  Oh well.
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Post by: Muffin Man on September 15, 2022, 08:28:38 PM
holy smokes cool bass. I've been eyeballing jazz type basses for a couple years. never knew of those. Or maybe Rick bass the 4003/5. Just ruled out Warwick, not getting with the tone (over the internet). Fretless is on my radar because it would be radically different than my pbass. My pbass I like to brag about.

Pissy, I'm sure you have a ton of good old fashion braggadocio around your El Toro. Super cool. What color? That black hardware/pickps is pretty awesome on those. What a treasure.
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Post by: Pissy on September 16, 2022, 06:53:53 AM
Mine is no treasure.  It spent the 90's getting trashed pretty hard.  The pickups in those things are very unique HB-2 MFD humbuckers that are a little larger than a jazz bass pickup and have 4(!!) pole pieces per string. 


Mine is transparent red over an ash body.  I thought I documented it here somewhere.  I'll try to find it.  Old pics from old phone are on a computer or thumb drive somewhere.
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Post by: Pissy on September 16, 2022, 07:02:36 AM

(http://[url=http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/F4226A4F-FFA9-4396-8913-2A13FC10930D_zpshqawrizi.jpg%5Dhttp://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/F4226A4F-FFA9-4396-8913-2A13FC10930D_zpshqawrizi.jpg%5B/url%5D)(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/EXKid1975/F4226A4F-FFA9-4396-8913-2A13FC10930D_zpshqawrizi.jpg)

Mine looks like this, but the pickups were long gone before I got it along with the rest of the electronics.  Jazz bass pickups in it now.  The neck is sorta twisted as well.  Actually the treble side of the neck has more relief than the bass side.  It's a bit of a mess, but it sounds great when it's playable.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 25, 2022, 07:32:02 PM
my bass neck on my fender jazz has been pretty much like that for the longest. its been exposed to wild temp shifts while touring. its super sensitive to the humidity. in the winter the action gets real high, in the summer its a little easier to play. the truss rod is shot. i wouldnt change a thing. ive had it since 1992 and could pick it out of a line up of 1000 fender jazz basses blindfolded.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 07, 2022, 09:27:45 AM
Last night playing an outdoor venue.

Hear a weird cracking sound to my left. Wearing earplugs, so can't tell what it is or where exactly it's coming from.

Noise stops. Keep playing.

Hear cracking sound again. Can't tell what it is or where it's coming from.

Hear the noise again, and an entire half of a TREE comes crashing down. Get blasted by a cloud of dust like someone lit up the fog machine.

THANK GOD no one was under it or in its path because it would have killed someone. Came close to taking out singers lady but she was fine just like WTF?!?

It was a live oak, trunk a foot thick. Snapped off completely halfway up the trunk.

Wasn't an unkempt tree dropping branches and wasn't fault of the venue, just a freak occurrence. The tree was just DONE. And live oaks are sturdy as fuck and can live 1000 years, so for this to happen with zero wind blowing is even crazier.

Hard to tell the scale but this is the tree:

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FUUUUUUUCK


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 07, 2022, 11:44:44 AM
Maybe termites or something.  But yeah live oaks routinely survive hurricanes, that's pretty rare for an out of nowhere break. 



Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Danny G on October 07, 2022, 04:08:08 PM
Now I know the sound of a tree cracking and about to give way.

There's a volley ball area 100yds to the left. They were shutting down and thought maybe someone was noisily stacking chairs or something. Nope.

It was loud enough that I heard it (twice) standing next to my bass amp and a drummer, with ear plugs in, before it came crashing down (that noise I *did* recognize)


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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 08, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
Taking a break outside band practice at Lordfinesse's house one time, we were sitting on the porch.  It was about 6ft off the ground.  We heard noise like an animal chewing on the underside of the deck.  Start, then stop, start, stop.  Then it got more often, and in a matter of seconds was constant then BOOM!   Deck came crashing down, all but one corner so we were collected in the low corner.  We laughed for about 30 minutes. 


But the curious noise, and how it changed over about 30 seconds stuck with me. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on October 10, 2022, 02:21:32 PM
holy shit Danny G, a tree god sacrificed its life to send yall a portent.

epic stuff, glad nobody was hurt
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on October 18, 2022, 10:56:09 PM
10:50 wood tapping wood strains.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 29, 2022, 09:01:50 PM
so i have an opportunity to buy a gibson eb1 violin bass copy. not a real gibson. im not sure what the brand is but i can get it for under $200. i know the guy selling it and i bought a 2x15 cab off him that i use all the time. hes a good dude and would not try and screw me.

anyone know anything about non gibson eb1 copies?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 30, 2022, 07:37:57 AM
I can tell simply by imagining it that the thing will neck dive like a motherfucker.  For me that's a deal breaker. But to each their own.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 30, 2022, 11:11:02 AM
Its a no go. I asked him about it, he was honest.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 04, 2022, 05:17:08 PM
That's why I don't have an explorer. If I could find an Ibanez explorer that'd be another story. But those are 10k.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 04, 2022, 09:09:36 PM
anyone have any experience with eastwood guitars and basses? they make what seem like really nice copies of retro instruments. they make a mosrite bass copy that i cant seem to get out of my head. i really need a reason not to buy one other than i cant afford it.
https://eastwoodguitars.com/ (https://eastwoodguitars.com/)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 04, 2022, 11:43:57 PM
Have not had one in my hands. I had a pre-order deposit on a Hooky bass but backed out. Mike, the owner, was very accommodating and I've been meaning to look again. I want the TB64 bass.
Yeah I like that Sidejack bass too. Gotta have one of those or the geetar.

Hohner has some budget violin basses - $250. I've been meaning to post a link or DM you mortlock, will over the weekend once I find the link I've been oogling.

KALA U-Bass makes a nifty little bass, rubber string, or whatever they are. pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 04, 2022, 11:52:52 PM
dealer with some Hohner from low to high. Not affiliation and I've never bought there but they have a couple nuggets I drool over:

[spoiler]https://www.guitarstobeplayed.com/bass-guitars/?mode=grid&limit=12&sort=popular&max=4000&min=0&sort=popular&brand=2765350[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 05, 2022, 08:27:48 AM
I've been on Eastwood's email list since they started I think.  In the beginning, those Mosrite copies were actually copies of Univox Hi Fliers - copies themselves. 


I had a hi flier back in the early 90's.  I thought it was awesome, but at the time was all about pointy hesdstock guitars.  It felt great and sounded great.   I removed the bridge P-90 and put it into a crappy (pointy) Memphis thing in order to make the pointy thing sound better.  Never mind that the p-90 doesn't fit in a humbucker spot. 


It didn't change the sound, which surprised me.  Actually I'm still surprised.  The sound of that Memphis didn't change until I moved the pots and wiring from the Univox to it. 


Years later I bought some replacement p90s, new pots and caps and put the Univox back together.  It was alright, but I had moved on to an SG that is still my No. 1 so it didn't get played much. I ended up giving it away to a buddy of mine's kid.  That kid (now probably 25 or so) still has it and it's his No. 1.  he's taken it to a tech who went over it with a fine toothed comb and apparently it kicks ass now again.


The Univox HiFliers like the one I had now have 1k asking prices on Reverb.  Kinda kicking myself, but you know I was like 16 and stuff.  But, to gift someone their favorite guitar, when I paid $100 for it... I'm good with that. 


The Eastwood prices used to be much less for what they offer.  Now I'm not so sure I'd get one instead of the originals (univox, not mosrite) because of how close the prices are.  Of course the cycle for "Vintage Eastwoods" is probably close to coming back around. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 05, 2022, 08:46:41 AM
now, i remember, myrareguitars
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on November 05, 2022, 11:02:23 AM
My current #2 guitar for C standard is an Eastwood RD, I love the thing. Plays great, sounds great, I have zero complaints about it except that no one makes replacement RD pickguards, and I have a whole "only white pickguards belong on black guitars" thing. So I made my own. And like the aesthetic much more. The only photo I have with the new guard is pretty potato quality, but yeah, it rips.

Given the price point, they do a have reputation for being "light" but mine clocks in at just over 9 pounds. The other guitar player has a '78 Custom that is around 10.
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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 05, 2022, 11:22:23 AM
Does anyone know where to source 5w resistors?  Like a kit box of them?  Mouser and the like sell them in singles, which works, but a kit full would last me a lifetime.   I can find 1W and below, but not the larger 5W.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on November 05, 2022, 11:53:00 AM
Man now i really want to buy one. Thankfully the eastwood univox bass is currently out of stock.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on November 05, 2022, 12:44:14 PM
Pissy, what resistance?

I've  bought smaller bulk parts (like 20 pieces) from https://www.parts-express.com.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 05, 2022, 03:01:34 PM
Seems like i see 47k, 250k, 1k and 1.5k most often in 5W.  I suppose that's not very many different values to order individually.


Looks like all they have in 5W are ceramic.   I'll keep looking.  Thanks though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 05, 2022, 09:17:26 PM
Noice looking RD guitar
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 05, 2022, 09:29:38 PM
check out this specimen

https://eddiesguitars.com/product/bass/bass-guitar-categories/4-string-bass-guitars/ernie-ball-music-man-bfr-stingray-special-hh-slugger-66-of-105/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 05, 2022, 11:12:22 PM
Even the knobs are tone wood.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 06, 2022, 12:24:33 AM
I saw that! Then I saw this. It's wack-a-mole bass night.

https://www.pitbullaudio.com/aluminati-orion-dark-matter-bass-aluminun-neck-fretboard-lucite-clear-body-alumi-orionb-2x2.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 06, 2022, 01:10:16 PM
Wow. Kinda cool.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 06, 2022, 09:31:26 PM
slow rolling a bass but I'd like to end up here. one can dream

(https://i.ibb.co/WnBTQ0t/T.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laKt80x0E4k
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: bbottom on November 21, 2022, 03:17:54 PM
Boy it's been a minute since I posted here. We played a big show a few weeks back and I just got the video back from it.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Zero on November 26, 2022, 11:17:43 AM
https://lostrelics.bandcamp.com/ (https://lostrelics.bandcamp.com/) just finished recording a new EP. Should be out in March. Had a blast recording this one. Pics for content.

(https://i.ibb.co/djWbDg3/IMG-1233.jpg) (https://ibb.co/djWbDg3)(https://i.ibb.co/fFYMDnb/IMG-1190.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fFYMDnb)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on November 26, 2022, 06:40:13 PM
Been converting my barn into a art/music studio moved about 2/3 of my amp collection in there today and damn, it's cool to see what I've got up here all in one place.  Still have an Acoustic full stack and an Earth b2000/Kustom 315 to bring up from my studio in the Bay Area.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221126/96bb73b61b886f19ba0def2825306ce3.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on December 23, 2022, 06:29:13 PM
anyone ever play a bass or guitar with fanned frets? what are they supposed to do? how weird is it?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on December 24, 2022, 06:35:41 AM
My head tells me to stay away, but my heart tells me to run away. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on December 24, 2022, 11:52:02 PM
Morty, they "help" with the extremity of lower tunings. I no that if you have a  5 string bass, you can have your low B be a 36" scale, and your G be a 33", or whatever.  I'm not a huge fan, have played (not owned, just fucked around on) 2 multiacale basses and 1 guitar. Not for me, it's not that its super weird, in fact there's almost no learning curve. It's more that the tension on the strings wasn't what I was used to, and I'm not an extended range player anyway, so the added B strings didn't do much of anything for me. I will say they were all comfortable instruments, probably to do with the fact that they're more of a boutique thing, and the craftsmanship was of a high quality.

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Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on December 25, 2022, 01:00:04 AM
duplicate
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on December 25, 2022, 10:10:11 PM
Quote from: Muffin Man on December 25, 2022, 01:00:04 AM
garbled. it just pisses me off about goofy* fanned frets. what a bunch of goofy*. why? who cares. it's obviously wrong at worst, at best fiddling-about, for basement dwellers. It makes NO goofy* SENSE. is it about tuning, or micro-tuning? double-good luck.

*expletives deleted. sheesh
ps. I just remembered I've got an eurorack Euclidean sequencer here, and also Wendy Carlos alternate tuning wavetables for a keyboard. Not sure if they relate to fan-frets but still, I should like, go fly a kite.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 06, 2023, 11:11:59 PM
Quote from: mortlock on December 23, 2022, 06:29:13 PM
anyone ever play a bass or guitar with fanned frets? what are they supposed to do? how weird is it?

Hung out with one of my bass player buds today. He just got an Ibanez EHB 1506ms multi scale abomination.

My man!  I Love you but Jesus. Play bass. This is probably why after 20 years we've never played in a band.

(https://i.imgur.com/3kWdRMt.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 07, 2023, 12:24:54 AM
its a good shred bass. licks and tricks. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2023, 10:49:56 AM
No. That's the thing. No bass shreds. Unless it's Cliff style.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on February 25, 2023, 08:32:07 PM
AMM style avant garde noise jam and some humboldt london. god save the queen.
(https://i.ibb.co/zSjL4mZ/humboldt-london-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zSjL4mZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/Yk0v5yv/20230225-202003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yk0v5yv)
(https://i.ibb.co/bPW7p5p/20230225-190527.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bPW7p5p)lion (https://emoticoncentral.com/category/lion)
rager, i suppose you dont consider this bass playing either.  ;)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 25, 2023, 11:45:05 PM
Quote from: mortlock on February 25, 2023, 08:32:07 PM(https://i.ibb.co/yXfVLFL/20230225-190527.jpg)

If you think that sounds good, and I have no question that it does, you should hear my Toro lawnmower. Back in action soon.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on February 25, 2023, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: mortlock on February 25, 2023, 08:32:07 PMAMM style avant garde noise jam and some humboldt london. god save the queen.
(https://i.ibb.co/zSjL4mZ/humboldt-london-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zSjL4mZ)
(https://i.ibb.co/Yk0v5yv/20230225-202003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Yk0v5yv)
(https://i.ibb.co/bPW7p5p/20230225-190527.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bPW7p5p)lion (https://emoticoncentral.com/category/lion)
rager, i suppose you dont consider this bass playing either.  ;)

How is the intonation on that bass? I have the OCD complex when I look at bridge saddles. I always look at those. Tony Levin's saddles are straight across. Then I see some $10,000 guitars where the saddles are wonky af. I have a booteek Tele from a master builder...saddles, wonky. I have the 50's Blackguard Tele hardcover book, worth a $mint now. Every saddle (brass tele saddles mind you) are fairly even across. Nowadays, of course, we have modern nuts and bridges, saddles, and tuning methods. But everytime I see a pro guitarist's number #1, the saddles are even-steven.  it's OCD, I know.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on February 26, 2023, 09:55:15 AM
I read somewhere recently that the reason intonation needs to be set is to compensate for the string stretch when pressing down on the frets.  It never occurred to me until reading that why a straight up half way point between the nut and the bridge at the 12th fret wouldn't make it perfectly intonated.  

Armed with that knowledge, action height, neck relief and string gauge would dictate how much compensation at the saddles would be necessary to intonate.  Why it might be wonky.  String gauge likely being the biggest wild card. 
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Post by: mortlock on February 26, 2023, 07:29:01 PM
my bass neck is shot. the intonation is good but it bows real bad in the winter dry months and kind of goes the other way in the summer humid months.
you ever hear someone say the neck is shaped by the player. i never knew what that meant until recently. my neck, a fender jazz bass, has a noticeable curve from about the 4th or 5th fret to the head stock. the e string side slightly rolls over and i think its from my hand position and motion from playing in that spot on the neck. ive had that bass and have used it almost exclusively since 1992. i literally reformed the neck through use. the wood is malleable.   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on February 27, 2023, 07:57:10 AM
That sucks.  I'm getting one of my fretboards replaced now because of a similar issue.  Not cheap because most all of the cost is labor.  
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on March 18, 2023, 01:58:12 AM
Late nite sando in the synth lab a while back.

Mortadella, cheese

(https://i.imgur.com/zz6nlZ7.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on March 18, 2023, 10:19:41 AM
Quote from: RAGER on March 18, 2023, 01:58:12 AMLate nite sando in the synth lab a while back.

Mortadella, cheese

(https://i.imgur.com/zz6nlZ7.jpeg)
this post would be equally at home in any number of threads.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on March 19, 2023, 05:36:48 PM
I moved to Austin....south by southwest happened this weekend, many cool shows and saw Nebula and The Atomic Bitchwax for free yesterday yay! 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 18, 2023, 05:36:19 PM
Question for yall, and I'm sure there's already been ink spilled on the topic..

Any tips for minimizing feedback on vocals? It's not really an issue for my project because we just bellow atonally, but my buddy sings with a very loud band with very dynamic vocals and he's at wits end trying to figure it out. He's playing through a boss VE-20 if that helps
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 18, 2023, 07:00:45 PM
Is this at shows or at practice? 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on April 18, 2023, 09:38:41 PM
i notice for us in the jam room, we have to have the mic not facing the monitors. im sure you guys have already thought of that.
youd think with the ve20 there would be some way to control the feedback problem.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 18, 2023, 10:12:44 PM
they probably play too loud for any kind of correction
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on April 19, 2023, 12:13:33 AM
Power. Lots of power equals head room.

Obviously the size of room and mic placement In conjunction to the mains  is a factor. But if you're trying to squeeze every bit of power out of an underpowered system you're using too much gain.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on April 19, 2023, 04:21:10 AM
1-2-3 kaboom!
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on April 19, 2023, 10:32:57 PM
I have relayed your wisdom.

I do think metal is just too loud for clean vocals in general. It sounds good when they're buried deep in the mix like in doom. Otherwise you should just do cookie monster to cut through
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on April 20, 2023, 07:14:29 PM
use a directional mic like sm58beta or audix om7 to shield frequencies ...I use both

I use IEMs to stop the shrieking feedback of the mic too close to a monitor and monitor GAIN turned up too loud/much....but there are great monitors nowdays that you can fine tune out the feedback
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 02, 2023, 10:53:21 AM
I saw the dude from Caroline Guitar Co. talking about his HIWATT Custom 20 so I very interested cuz. Never see anybody talking about these. It's such a great amp. I'll post the video. Anyways he talked about a certain setting so I took a screenshot and used those settings to great success. It looks weird but works great with a little overdrive.

(https://i.imgur.com/iV3dwZ0.jpg)

And here's a strange thing too. If you turn alll the EQ all the way down you get no sound. Not even if you turn the gain and master to 10. Weird.

Here's the vid.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 05, 2023, 02:45:55 PM
Here's what I'm talking about with my HIWATT. Not sure if the audio will work so I'll include the link too.

(https://i.imgur.com/wk4GBZg.mp4)

https://i.imgur.com/wk4GBZg.mp4
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on May 05, 2023, 08:28:18 PM
Really cool.

I wired that goldtop up with standard LP wiring and turning the volume all the way down on either pickup with the switch in the middle kills the signal like that.    I thought something was wrong, until i read about it. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on May 06, 2023, 01:06:17 PM
All my LP's are wired like that. Shunt to ground at zero setting. Like my HIWATT.

My latest experiment is to turn the gain to 10 and everything to zero and bring things up individually to see what happens. It's like having 4 master volumes but 3 with their own frequency. I've searched around and haven't seen any use this approach and can't figure out if the HIWATTs are wired this way. Pretty fun though.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 15, 2023, 08:58:15 PM
We had Husky band practice today.  The guys drove up from Charlotte and we rented a rehearsal room locally.  $25/hr.  I thought that was more than reasonable.  We knocked the rust off and played 12 songs plus a few new things.  They actually record there with a house engineer for $45/hr, which is pretty low. BUT it's really more of a rehearsal room with recording capabilities.  

The room itself was sound treated and sounded great, very clean.  Had bottled water and coffee included.  It was also equipped with a JCM 2000 212 combo and a Vox AC30.  The bass amp was an Ampeg SVT3 through some 410.  Drums were a 4 piece DW kit with cymbals if needed, we brought our own.  Also it was air conditioned quite cool, which was strange because band practice was always a hot and sweaty thing in the past.  I was pretty impressed. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 17, 2023, 10:35:14 AM
Just for fun or any shows in the future? 

Figured you had room at your place for jamming or you didn't wanna scare your neighbors. Anyways sounds fun.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 17, 2023, 08:28:49 PM
I do have room, and in the future we'll probably do it here.  It was nice to be there though, and so cheap for 4 hours. 

We have some plans revolving around recording.  For us the best kick in the pants we could give ourselves is to schedule a show.  We probably should if we still have any connections with the venues.  Most of the bands we used to play with are gone, but there are a few with members of those old bands.  

To be honest I personally got tired of the bullshit of playing out.  Playing was fine, even playing for no money was fine.  But dealing with some of those other bands was not my favorite thing to do.  I have stories I won't air out here of some of the bands decently known in this corner of the internet that are less than flattering.  Just not into those politics at this stage of my life. 

I don't think the other guys feel that way, and I'll go along with the intentions of enjoying myself.  but if it were up to me alone, I'm content to jam and record and release maybe even try to make videos. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 18, 2023, 11:48:22 AM
Oh dude I hear ya loud and clear. Between being the singer/guitar player/ song writer/booker and trying to be social enough to get on some good shows, the whole thing burned me out. It eased up a bit when we brought our bass player in. He'd been
In some well known bands in the Midwest and knew some people and was willing to take some of the vocal duties too. But there were other things going on that slowed our momentum and I just said nah fuck it.

That and standing around a club until 3am. Fuck that.

Honestly don't know if I'll ever play out again. The whole process gives me the heebies.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on July 18, 2023, 08:03:14 PM
yeah i hear you guys on that. im at the point where i want to play out, but barely. i want opening slots at like 2 pm on fests that have tons of bands.

why the fuck are there not more matinee shows ffs.

   
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 18, 2023, 10:07:14 PM
Good question, but if you want that I think you have to make it happen. Host your own Mortlock Monthly Matinee Saturday Afternoon Day Drink Event Thingy®.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on July 19, 2023, 03:28:35 PM
shaft was going to do that..remember? some kinda stoner matinee venue "downtown" or something. I think it would be good for seniors. you could run a Sunday brunch with music after brunch. problem is most people would leave immediately after brunch to go watch football at the sports bar.

ps. I used to frequent a weekly Sunday midday jazz/groove/hip hop showcase. It was great.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on July 20, 2023, 01:30:07 PM
This show was 2011 I think. Fukn awesom. The Tube is now a hot girl dance club nowadays. It is tiny and it was such a blast to play and see shows at. It's just a few doors down from where Torche played their first show in Portland.

Sunday brunch show. Cheap champagne and eggs bennie. Awesomely tasteless flier and I do believe True Widow opened cuz I remember it being daylight and drunkenly talking guitars and tuning with that dude and Rob Wrong.

(https://i.imgur.com/Kkk5KU9.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on July 21, 2023, 07:35:37 AM
So I take it you're a fan of the brunch show. 
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Post by: Muffin Man on July 25, 2023, 11:03:52 PM
never heard this band but are my entry for the matinee.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 10, 2023, 03:10:00 PM
(https://hiwatt.org/Schematics/AB_SA210.jpg)

Rager I think this is your Hiwatt's schematic. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 10, 2023, 03:42:34 PM
Maybe not. It says DR210.   The link at the bottom of this page said SA210. 

https://hiwatt.org/tech2.html
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 11, 2023, 03:16:19 PM
Think maybe DR210 and SA210 are the same basically but a slight different layout. Built in two different eras by different ownership.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on August 15, 2023, 12:55:38 AM
hiwatt is a great name. I had a Matchless (two types) not a good name but one heckuva an amp. The DC30 weighed a ton but golly wow.

I've always had my eyes on a Reeves. ps. there's is poop-all about hiwatt ownership changes on wiki. c'mon.

eeghads. I can't look https://www.hiwatt.org/
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 18, 2023, 12:38:17 PM
HIWATT is such a convoluted story. Weird knockoffs, dodgy facts and other weird stuff. Some were made in China beer one ownership and sone brand new ones to date still are. Namely the solid state and hybrid shit. HIWATT in name only. Sorry my HIWATT doesn't have an aux. in or Bluetooth. Ffs. And sone were made in n California around 83-84.

Mine I think is a 2003 and made in Doncaster. That's been verified and it's listed on the HIWATT World Registry. Purists will say it's not a real HIWATT and that's ok. Maybe some day I will have a 70's DR103. But I love this little Custom 20 and is hand wired on a turret board just like the old ones. It's a work of art.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 18, 2023, 01:57:23 PM
I've been trying to look at the tone stack in that schematic to determine why it would kill the signal at all pots zeroed.  I'm not getting it.  That might be just me.  

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 18, 2023, 07:12:14 PM
I really should spellcheck
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Post by: RAGER on August 22, 2023, 09:18:06 AM
Text I received yesterday

" Hey Rager, Vern @ Sweetwater here. It's been a bit since we've reached out and just wanted to check in and see how everything's going with you! Are there any projects that I can be helping with?"

So I was thinking of asking him to help me organize the garage, build a kayak hoist and maybe haul away the old water heater I still have in the garage.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 22, 2023, 01:34:46 PM
They're all aboot customer service. 
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Post by: mortlock on August 22, 2023, 07:53:23 PM
they would probably send you the little bag of candy if you asked.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 22, 2023, 08:38:27 PM
Just send a $5 gift card. I got ants one time from that damn candy.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 24, 2023, 01:48:01 PM
A friend of mine inherited her friends property and assets. HAM/electronics nerd hoarder hermit. Ramshackle house in about 3 acres with money squirreled away in CD's and accounts. Quite the windfall for her which is good as she's over 70. Fun lady to hang out with. Anyways she took me over there yesterday to assess as there is a motor home and sone guitars and amps. It was suggested I might have my pick of sone things if the stepson didn't take it. Tried not to envision Marshalls, Laneys and HIWATTS. There was of course none of that. MG series Marshall junk and a couple other things. Junk guitars etc... but the house is full of electronics stuff. Grabbed a variac, nice Craftsman meter, Walker Wes-50 iron and one of those little toy HOTONE mini amps. The Purple Wind one.

There's some very cool 50's Gonset transmitter receivers and several oscilloscopes and partially built chassis and on and on. Then there's the shop. Oh man I would've been really excited 15 years ago but I just don't do that stuff anymore.

I'll probably get one more trip through or I might just help her get stuff out if she needs the help. Maybe I'll grab some tools idk. Weird. I used to get really stoked about stuff like this. Meh.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on August 24, 2023, 02:37:13 PM
I could use some NOS JAN tubes in their original boxes. Just get the whole carton we I can go through them later. Also, a good 'scope to watch synth waveforms - 4-channel, or 2 channel. (make sure to get the probes). How about an arc-welder? I could use one of those.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 24, 2023, 03:29:09 PM
I did set aside a box that had some NOS  National 6CA7's made in England. But the other dude spied those and I didn't make a fuss. Meh.

And yes I'm sure there's a welder in the shop along with 4 riding mowers, several weed walkers, chop saw, generator, air compressors and a bunch f huge fricken transformers. Must be for the HAM antenna that's 40' tall. Shit that thing must be worth some dough.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 24, 2023, 03:53:10 PM
Yeah, as the baby boomers start dying off, there's going to be a surplus of all types of collections getting the estate sale treatment.  Cool you had the opportunity to cherry pick, albeit sloppy seconds.  I need a new scope. Last time I tried to use mine, I didn't have much luck. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 28, 2023, 11:58:46 AM
Jammed with my neighbor who plays drums yesterday. He's way out of practice and sold his drums about a year ago. And they were electronic and mine are vintage Ludwigs. It was fun for a bit. Also he doesn't know "our" music.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on August 28, 2023, 06:24:23 PM
But that's not a bad thing in my mind.  I could totally benefit from doing a top 40 gig.  I've been in a blues box rut for longer than I wasn't.  

Should you decide to pursue further, it might surprise you how fun the riff to Beat It, or something can be.  
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on August 28, 2023, 11:42:15 PM
Fuck that.

I've had this delusion of a three piece for so long it's just a dream. I had it once in real life kinda. It was great for a while but I felt I had to write "songs" with vocals and blah blah.

I really just wanna play some riffs with some drawn out solos where the drummer and bass player just shrug at each other and are down.

Drummer the other day never raised his sticks above his head. Iykyk.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on August 29, 2023, 04:12:22 AM
you need mort and I to come in and wreck the place with ya. one week of record everything fix it in the mix
you would of course provide room and board 3 squares. or at least 3 squares.p i could sleep in the car
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on August 29, 2023, 08:15:21 PM
im down.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 06, 2023, 11:57:46 AM
Ok back to the estate thing. Got back in there the other day. We're trying to get a game plan together so we can eliminate all the actual junk and make sense of what's worth dough for the estate. Then there will probably be a couple sales.

There's one room in the house I never even went into. I thought it was just filled with cat shit for some reason. Went in there and of course it's filled with more vintage electronics stuff and this Oh baby!! 

Collins 212V 1 audio console. 1967 or thereabouts. I'll bring it home and open it up to see what's what.

(https://i.imgur.com/U2vzFGM.jpg)

Did actually find a box of tubes and grabbed those. Not anything I can use probably but this stuff was on the bottom. Probably some values I can use.

(https://i.imgur.com/XOrhtHz.jpg)

It's an ongoing adventure.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on September 06, 2023, 08:09:06 PM
im kind of into these basses. i never heard of them until today. accidently stumbled upon someone playing one in a YT vid. carbon fiber neck. wood body. passive pups, which is a huge thing for me as i hate active electronics. normally youd see active in a bass like this. not unreasonably priced.
anyone know anything about these? they make guitars too.
https://klosguitars.com/products/electric-bass (https://klosguitars.com/products/electric-bass)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 30, 2023, 10:39:18 AM
I brought this thing home last week. Haven't tried to apply power via a variac and not sure I will. Think I'll just sell it. If anybody actually wants the damn thing.

(https://i.imgur.com/6YlRIxA.jpg)

Also check this out. Found n a pile in f junk out in the shop. Basket case. Beyond repair. Might just bring home the faceplate and gang it on the wall. What a waste.

(https://i.imgur.com/7CIeumf.jpg)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on September 30, 2023, 10:39:55 AM
This is from the estate thing I'm doing.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 01, 2023, 07:50:47 AM
Is that mixer powered?   With 4 channel output that you can use those little joysticks to pan 360°?  Interesting. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 01, 2023, 03:02:44 PM
No. They're just 3 way toggles.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 03, 2023, 09:20:12 AM
Anyone going to use this when it goes live? Ampwall is going to be the pepsi to bandcamps coke.
Ampwall.com (http://ampwall.com)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 03, 2023, 10:50:21 AM
I'm m intrigued since Bandcamp just sold.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on October 10, 2023, 10:36:40 PM
how come theres not a stonerrock.com fest?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on October 11, 2023, 07:27:07 AM
You mean Emissions 2023?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on October 11, 2023, 10:01:38 AM
We should have it n a central location, line Portland.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 04, 2023, 09:11:52 PM
Played about 30-40 steel string acoustic guitars over the last couple days. I have been living with an entry level nylon string classical guitar as my only acoustic for a while, and this amex gift card I got from work has "new guitar" written all over it

Since when does EVERY goddamn acoustic guitar have pickups in it? About 75% of the models in the three shops I visited had dorky electronics in them. Perhaps I am being judgmental but I am interested in a guitar that sounds good unplugged, is my whole game here.

Anyways, played some fancy Martins and stuff but the one I liked the best so far was a Fender Dreadnought

https://www.fender.com/en-US/acoustic-guitars/dreadnought/pd-220e-dreadnought/0970310303.html

...but I don't know if I loved it.

Gonna take my sweet ass time with this one
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 05, 2023, 11:05:01 AM
I too am perplexed with the high concentration of Acoustic/Electric offerings. 

I'm going to recommend a Yamaha to you.  I have one i got used at GC for $99 and after I set it up with some relief, fret level/polish and fingerboard oiling it sounds absolutely awesome.  I look for them on the cheap quite regularly.   If you get a chance to A/B/C vs current Martin and Taylors I think you'll find a lot of bang for the buck, tone wise.  Mine is a Model SCF08. No electronics.  Or maybe I just got lucky- which rarely happens to me.

(https://i.ibb.co/V2w2zT9/IMG-2150.jpg) (https://ibb.co/V2w2zT9)

I would also recommend D'Addario Nickel Bronze strings.  I found they have the best balance of bright to boom across the spectrum.

  (https://i.ibb.co/nMXr2Vf/IMG-2190.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nMXr2Vf)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 05, 2023, 11:09:39 AM
Also, see the logo on the headstock?  I look for that style logo in a Yamaha, vs the tuning fork or tea leaf logo.  
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 05, 2023, 11:59:23 AM
Those Yamahas look absolutely gorgeous. I'll keep a lookout.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 05, 2023, 04:20:53 PM
I told myself I'd play more acoustic if I had a nice one. So I bought a Gibson Songwriter a few years ago. It has Fishman pickup and no knobs or anything just an input built into the strap pin. It sounded great but I just never played it. T jus sat in the case and I always worried about keeping it the right temperature and would move it around the house depending on the weather. A lot of worry for something I rarely touched. So I sold it. Still have a couple cheapies.

Pussy us right. Sone of those Yamahas and Takamines are great and inexpensive.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 05, 2023, 08:53:37 PM
Hahaha... Pussy?
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 05, 2023, 10:36:41 PM
My Fukn thumbs. Jfc. Lol.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 03:19:32 AM
Quote from: renfield on November 04, 2023, 09:11:52 PMPlayed about 30-40 steel string acoustic guitars over the last couple day

yep. get at it. OG.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 03:31:32 AM
Quote from: renfield on November 04, 2023, 09:11:52 PMI have been living with an entry level nylon string classical guitar as my only acoustic for a while

My $139 nylon acoustic is probably my best acoustic. Mail order pure luck.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 04:24:38 AM

eee-cats turn that up
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Pissy on November 07, 2023, 06:42:57 AM
Quote from: renfield on November 05, 2023, 11:59:23 AMThose Yamahas look absolutely gorgeous. I'll keep a lookout.
Also, depending on your budget, the late 60's to early 70's Yamaha FG180 sound really great.  Elliot Smith played them.  The caveat is to find one that doesn't need a neck reset given their age.   Try to get one made in Japan, red label in the sound hole, but the ones made in Taiwan are supposed to be great too. Easily attainable for $500 or so. 
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
Quote from: Pissy on November 07, 2023, 06:42:57 AM
Quote from: renfield on November 05, 2023, 11:59:23 AMThose Yamahas look absolutely gorgeous. I'll keep a lookout.
Also, depending on your budget, the late 60's to early 70's Yamaha FG180 sound really great.  Elliot Smith played them.  The caveat is to find one that doesn't need a neck reset given their age.   Try to get one made in Japan, red label in the sound hole, but the ones made in Taiwan are supposed to be great too. Easily attainable for $500 or so.

awesome.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 09:08:47 PM
Quote from: renfield on November 04, 2023, 09:11:52 PMreplying

Highly reccomend getting a baritone acoustic - it might blow your mind. Mine was. I'm even considering a second one now that I see them in black. I feel really lucky because the one I got is really something special. You can beat the ever loving bananas out of it an it refuses to collapse. Or play it ever so gently at tickle whisper level and it rewards sweetly. Could be honeymoon but I don't think so. Honestly, okay, I've yet to put a microphone in front of it. Will do that soon! But in the room it is just spectacular. For $500? C'mon.

The point of it is is that it's farily different and lands you in a different space for song writting or just tooling around. Fun city. Is it a bass or is it a guitar? If you want pure acoustic dreadnaught and whatnot this isn't it. Its more bass than not.

Right, not a dreadnaught maybe more of a 4-5th guitar but I would seriously try one. Man I love mine.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/alvarez-abt610e-baritone-acoustic-electric-guitar/j57125000001000

ps I don't know about their different model numbers.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 10:29:42 PM
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Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 10:48:42 PM
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Post by: Muffin Man on November 07, 2023, 11:08:36 PM
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: renfield on November 11, 2023, 01:08:54 PM
Yeah, the more I play, the more I'm not seeing the value add of getting something above $500 as compared to some of the sub-300 offerings.

Also realized I'm just not a Martin guy. They have this really fragile and tinny feeling to them. Almost a "texture" to the feel of the strum that is kinda gross to me.

And I played a baritone that really blew my mind. An 8-string baritone. Actually I think I might have to get it. I think I am realizing it with certainty as I type these words right now.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 11, 2023, 10:09:58 PM
I forgot to mention my "carboard" $149 parlor. It's a tiny monster. Again, I need to put a mic to it and the reality of doing that could ruin the party. But in terms of inspiration the little parlor is a freak.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on November 11, 2023, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: renfield on November 11, 2023, 01:08:54 PMn 8-string baritone. Actually I think I might have to get it.
One of the cats back in the day played an 8 string electric bass (not baritone), or maybe an electric 10ner. Real odd-ball stuff but an 8-stirng baritone acoustic would be really cool. If it grabs you, grab it.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on November 30, 2023, 12:49:44 PM
I've said it before and I think there's only a couple others here who agree or at least used to post here but, I'm not a big fan of Bonamassa. I don't own any of his stuff and probably 95% of his stuff I don't listen to but.....I like his approach, I appreciate how he came to be and all with hard work, his appreciation and knowledge of gear, and most of all a certain setup he used a lot. Don't know if he still does but 4 different voiced heads into two split 4x12's is where it's at to have your bases covered. Very cool. He's obviously an amazing player. He'll straight up admit he rips Eric Johnson and Clapton riffs cuz the shits gotta come from somewhere. Even though I normally play heavier stuff you can definitely hear Eddies double stops, Alex's chords, and Page pentatonic Phrygian stuff in my playing.

Anyways, great interview just posted on YouTube with Rick Beato, another total guitar nerd and nice guy.

Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Submarine on November 30, 2023, 03:38:25 PM
I never was a booster/pedal stacker guitarist but I just saw (heard) the light.  Maxon Tubescreamer into a Violet Menace (muff rams head clone).  Gamechanger for me.
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Post by: Pissy on November 30, 2023, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 30, 2023, 12:49:44 PMI've said it before and I think there's only a couple others here who agree or at least used to post here but, I'm not a big fan of Bonamassa. I don't own any of his stuff and probably 95% of his stuff I don't listen to but.....I like his approach, I appreciate how he came to be and all with hard work, his appreciation and knowledge of gear, and most of all a certain setup he used a lot. Don't know if he still does but 4 different voiced heads into two split 4x12's is where it's at to have your bases covered. Very cool. He's obviously an amazing player. He'll straight up admit he rips Eric Johnson and Clapton riffs cuz the shits gotta come from somewhere. Even though I normally play heavier stuff you can definitely hear Eddies double stops, Alex's chords, and Page pentatonic Phrygian stuff in my playing.

Anyways, great interview just posted on YouTube with Rick Beato, another total guitar nerd and nice guy.


Yeah, I feel like I shouldn't like the guy, but he's really knowledgeable and can play great, and it seems like he'll talk to anyone who will sit down with him.  
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Post by: RAGER on November 30, 2023, 06:05:58 PM
Im honestly not sure I'd like him. He's a know it all nerd that probably does know it all. Lol. And he seems like one of those artists/musicians that only want to talk to peers. If that makes sense. Good interview though. And yes people hate him but fawn over Mayer?  Fukn dipshit blues fans.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: James1214 on December 03, 2023, 02:12:10 PM
Ol' Joe Bonermaster. Worked at a clients house a few months back who "was a guitar guy" had a goldtop LP and a plexi in his livingroom, and watched live Bonamassa all day long.... the guy can play, hes got some wicked chops, but it just didn't make me feel anything. It was a far cry from the chills I get listening to Howlin Wolf, BB king, Robert Johnson, or SRV.
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Post by: mortlock on December 04, 2023, 11:49:20 AM
As far as modern blues guys go, i like kingfish better than bonamossa.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: RAGER on December 04, 2023, 01:08:41 PM
I don't really like any of them. I mostly can't stand any of that shit.

There's one clip I enjoy of Bonermaster. It's a live thing and he plays a medley and part is Just Got Paid and the tone is fukn bomb. And I think he's using a V and the 4 head 2 cab thing I don't but it sounds really good to my ears. Not too much gain and woody.
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Post by: neighbor664 on December 04, 2023, 01:29:27 PM
Not a fan of any of Joe's earlier work.  Most usually don't care for his originals, but  his playing and tone are great. His production and collaborative work with other artists has been on point.

https://youtu.be/fHjD_M_0J70?si=ZOh-kOu98nJutdeg
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: everdrone on December 16, 2023, 05:24:14 PM
used to really like Black Country Communion and Joe Bonamassa's guitar   on that...they get such a huge sound for a power trio or if they have keys
thought Joes vocals were good too on his solo type projects

as for me I did a black sabbath tribute audition last night for the Ozzy position...it was fun they sound killer!  Hope I get it!
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Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2024, 12:13:28 PM
Dinner, a pint and my new book.

(https://i.imgur.com/GHdOQXW.jpeg)
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Post by: Pissy on January 08, 2024, 03:37:38 PM
For you that plate is almost slumming it. Looks tasty though. 
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Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2024, 06:10:30 PM
I made shitty pub food purposefully but the melt was really good. I took leftover potatiskorv, chopped it up and added my pork rub then sautéed it for the melt  pepper jack and provolone was the cheese.
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Post by: mortlock on January 08, 2024, 10:53:50 PM
let me know how the book was. i need a new book to get into. i read both the metallica and black sabbath books mick wall wrote. i thought they were both really good.

who wrote that one??
 
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Post by: RAGER on January 09, 2024, 11:14:20 AM
It was written by Gershon Eliezer Weinrib
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Post by: James1214 on January 20, 2024, 09:08:31 PM
Been working hard on the barn. Spent my free time the last few weeks finalizing the electrical, insulating, drywalling, yesterday I framed out the doom closet for all the gear.


(https://i.ibb.co/C0VcVmM/20240118-171422.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C0VcVmM)
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on January 25, 2024, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: James1214 on January 20, 2024, 09:08:31 PMBeen working hard on the barn. Spent my free time the last few weeks finalizing the electrical, insulating, drywalling, yesterday I framed out the doom closet for all the gear.


(https://i.ibb.co/C0VcVmM/20240118-171422.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C0VcVmM)

diggin' the rafter beams, man.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 25, 2024, 11:58:35 PM
me too. super awesome rafter beams.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: Muffin Man on January 26, 2024, 01:41:48 AM
I pre-ordered the Vox Real McCoy Limted Chrome Wah. Stll time to cancel  let me know. I have backstock of a (1ea) ChaseTone halo inductor, unused part grab, if I have to fit that . If this new Vox pedal and inductor is the beesknees then all well and good. $300. I've had Tease Wheels of Fire but sold it, wen't to a better home. This NAMM 2024 Vox is a total gamble. TGP has nothing on it, or a few quibbles. Hey, I'll just find out. Only thing I hope for is some meat and some meat floss on the strings and some whizzer bits.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1806593-REG/vox_vrm1_ltd_real_mccory_wah_limited.html
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Post by: everdrone on January 27, 2024, 01:08:13 PM
So I'm the Ozzy in the sabbath tribute. First gig in one week.
Title: Re: The Jam Room Blog Thread.
Post by: mortlock on January 27, 2024, 08:05:33 PM
Quote from: everdrone on January 27, 2024, 01:08:13 PMSo I'm the Ozzy in the sabbath tribute. First gig in one week.
big shoes to fill. doing covers and being in a tribute band are two very different things. i want to hear it. im way too chicken shit to be in a tribute band from the vocal perspective. i cant sound like anyone but myself. my band covers born too late but i dont give a fuck that i dont sound anything like wino, we just put our own stamp on it. tribute bands are a whole different animal. respect to you for that.
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Post by: Submarine on January 28, 2024, 02:16:07 PM
Quote from: everdrone on January 27, 2024, 01:08:13 PMSo I'm the Ozzy in the sabbath tribute.

You are going to have a blast.  You just need a white shirt with fringes.
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Post by: Submarine on January 28, 2024, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: RAGER on January 09, 2024, 11:14:20 AMIt was written by Gershon Eliezer Weinrib

I got the audio book and Geddy narrates: he is really funny.  The stories are great, especially about Hawkwind.
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Post by: RAGER on January 28, 2024, 06:48:45 PM
I'm still reading it so I don't know if the story is in there but I've of my favorites is Alex as The Bag and how Ace loved the bag but Gene and Paul didn't.
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Post by: everdrone on February 01, 2024, 02:01:47 PM
Thanks y'all

My Ozzy gig is this Saturday

I think I sound good and that it will go well cheers

Great material and the band is very solid
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Post by: everdrone on February 02, 2024, 11:53:54 PM
FLIER
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Post by: Muffin Man on February 03, 2024, 04:31:17 AM
enjoy your set. congrats on the gig
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Post by: everdrone on February 04, 2024, 11:07:16 AM
awesome thanks the fans were great and my bandmates thought I did a great job last night!  my prior tributes were Billy Idol and Axl Rose GNR and I put a lot of work into my Ozzy.  We only do the Ozzy Black Sabbath tunes.

no videos from last night but here is my old videos tribute bands


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Post by: Muffin Man on February 05, 2024, 01:18:28 AM
well done on those.
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Post by: James1214 on February 06, 2024, 04:34:25 PM
Work continues on the barn, this time on the non-amp/music side of things. Skinned the door in some luan. Did some taping, mudding, texturing, priming and painting. Also skinned the tool wall with plywood and added french cleats, made a few holders/organizers. Now to tape, mud, paint the wall with the music gear will live. Really shooting to have the building infrastructure done by the end of the weekend so I can begin building shop infrastructure like my workbench, also I can move my big shop tools in from the container in the yard (the better half is tired of it, and so am I)


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Post by: everdrone on February 06, 2024, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: Muffin Man on February 05, 2024, 01:18:28 AMwell done on those.

thanks brutha cheers :)
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Post by: Pissy on February 07, 2024, 06:11:50 AM
I like a wall lined with french cleats.  
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Post by: James1214 on February 10, 2024, 01:54:42 PM
Me too, Pissy, Me too....

Last coat of paint went up. When the shit gets somewhat organized I can hang the PA, run all the speaker cable, my snake, audio interface in (running digital for audio stuff until I can fix my stereo 1/4" reel to reel, then that'll be my main recording method)..... Can't wait to get the fun shit started in here.
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Post by: Pissy on March 10, 2024, 07:28:52 AM
Asheville Guitar Show was yesterday.  I met Lordfinesse who came up from Charlotte.   

Lots of high priced guitars, and a large percentage of them were acoustics.  

I picked up a strap, a hard to find in the wild bridge for this Washburn 35 that I'm working on-and it fits perfectly- and a cheaper (Cadine?) reverb pedal.  

I should be able to get that Washburn restrung this morning, or I might go through the trouble of leveling/crowning/polishing the frets.  I'm probably going to do that at some point anyways, might as well do it now.  
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Post by: RAGER on March 10, 2024, 04:11:16 PM
So you didn't hold out for the DG-335?  Lol. Jesus!  Is that guy gonna ever go away? 
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Post by: mortlock on March 10, 2024, 09:06:16 PM
best logo in the business.
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Post by: Pissy on March 11, 2024, 07:21:44 AM
Quote from: RAGER on March 10, 2024, 04:11:16 PMSo you didn't hold out for the DG-335?  Lol. Jesus!  Is that guy gonna ever go away? 
No. I saw an original Trini Lopez though.  It was $14k.   

I have a couple vintage guitars.  A 1977 SG Standard, a 1975 Jazz Bass.  The SG has a headstock repair done long before I got it in 1997 or so.  The Jazz Bass has almost all aftermarket hardware and the paint was removed from the body.    I never think of them as items that anyone would give me any real money for.  And I'm sure that's accurate, but if any of those dealers were to flip them giving me say, $600 for either, they would not hesitate to put $1800 on either one.  
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Post by: mortlock on April 06, 2024, 09:10:58 PM
if anyone out there in a band that wants a show in rochester ny, i can point you in the direction of a dude that is the promoter for a new venue opening. its going to be pretty diy/underground but super awesome. i can comfirm the venue is an old church. should be pretty wild.