for my guitar. It came with duncan design brand pickups that aren't doing the job.
What I am looking for are some humbucker pickups to give a good tone for crushing doom and black metal guitar without all the mud.
(EDITED FOR POLITENESS. ;D ;D ;D)
Well, since you said please, I'll offer GFS pickups of almost any type. Mid-output pickups are usually the best, they maintain clarity and are perfect for doom.
May I suggest Humbucker sized P90s?
Pretty please, with sugar on it.
mid-output. A lot of people use those p90's. How do they sound for black metal?
F&B, I know your bro has a guitar with some of those Mean 90's. Maybe he'd let you give 'em a spin.
Those are the exact pick ups I would recommend. I have no idea what ridiculous gobs of distortion people are after when they tell me that 90s don't get enough distortion, because I can get way more than plenty.
everything on my bandcamp was done with a mean 90 loaded mockingbird except for the solo in Death Perception. I'll let you decide, but I fucking love 'em and I have for years.
http://psychedelicsexorgan.bandcamp.com/
The Mean 90's will give you more of a jangle if you EQ bright, but they certainly mix for black metal... I did this with a tele, hahaha.
clarity of a single (if you want it) with all the power of a bucker. They'll fuzz up real quick if that's what you're after
Okay, cool..but I looked up the p90 pickups and there's a dimarzio, a gibson one, a seymour duncan one, etc...
Which one would you suggest?
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Mean-90-True-Alnico-P90-Pickup-in-Humbucker-Case-Our-FATTEST-Bridge-Pickup_p_480.html
Do not let that price fool you. In fact, revel in it.
Yeah, they're all hella economically priced. How do they do that?
Says right there. No dealers, just direct. Those are the pick ups I use. No more buckers for me.
maybe a Lace Drop & Gain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI3A7b0V6Ew
scott wino approved
Quote from: mutantcolors on February 09, 2012, 01:50:24 AM
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Mean-90-True-Alnico-P90-Pickup-in-Humbucker-Case-Our-FATTEST-Bridge-Pickup_p_480.html
Do not let that price fool you. In fact, revel in it.
Damn! I like those prices. http://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Guitar-Pickups_c_7.html
Will keep these guys in mind.
Quote from: yesca on February 09, 2012, 03:37:32 AM
maybe a Lace Drop & Gain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI3A7b0V6Ew
scott wino approved
Great tone there. I'm really glad I bought an SM57, looking forward to using it.
Some folks in this thread said that these pups have an almost active type sound and stay clear sounding-
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2541312-Lace-drop-n-gain
Guitar tone is such a massive thing. From your pick style to strings on down through and to the speakers there are so many ways to tweak things. It's kind of maddening actually.
The lace & drop sound good, but I can't tell if it's wino or his guitar that makes it sound so good. It says they're especially made for drop D tuning. I usually play in C. It might make it too bassy?
Ever thought you were thinking way too hard?
When was the last time some doom guy spouted off about getting pick ups specifically for like, drop G or whatever?
Well, I don't wanna spend a bunch of cash on a crappy guitar to continue the crappy sounds.
Look at Motorcity Pickups. I've tried about every medium output pickup out there, I'll never use anything but his stuff again. If you want something a little hotter look at the Afwayu, hot like a Super D. and cleans up like a PAF.
Thanks for the help, but I went against the grain and got me one of these: http://www.guitarcenter.com/DiMarzio-DP102-X2N-Pickup-302021-i1127585.gc?source=4TEM8XOC
Check out BKP Warpigs or Pig 90's (P90 version, I have these in my SG and they're absolutely perfect for doom. Absolutely HUGE and clear low end)
Quote from: franksnbeans on February 13, 2012, 03:49:52 PM
Thanks for the help, but I went against the grain and got me one of these: http://www.guitarcenter.com/DiMarzio-DP102-X2N-Pickup-302021-i1127585.gc?source=4TEM8XOC
Ask for recommendations.
Does the total opposite of what is recommended.
Rad.The X2N is super hot. Cool, though. John Petrucci approved.
The x2n is in the chuck shuldiner tribut bc rich guitar. I think it may be right for black metal and stuff.
That's just for the bridge though.
What should I use for the neck?
Sounds like you need to get one of these 90's urrbody talkin bout.
That way ya got black in the bridge, doom in the neck, blackened doom in the middle.
/compromise
You'll never vet the exact perfect pickup on here...too many factors. You may have the same guitar, amp, pedals and tuning as someone else and love their sound but their string brand, pick position or touch may make your setup sound like crap. Just look for the right ballpark and either hope you get lucky or try and build around that sound. I have AlNiCo Warpig's in two Gibson V's with the same strings and action but to me each guitar sounds quite a bit different. Another huge tip that an absurd number of people overlook is pickup height. Super minor adjustments to the entire pickup or pole-pieces can change the sound quite a bit.
Quote from: franksnbeans on February 13, 2012, 03:49:52 PM
Thanks for the help, but I went against the grain and got me one of these: http://www.guitarcenter.com/DiMarzio-DP102-X2N-Pickup-302021-i1127585.gc?source=4TEM8XOC
seems an odd choice, given your initial specs and all
I would have said a BKP nailbomb or painkiller
it's all kinda just spitballin tho, given that we don't know what gat you're puttin it in, or what you're plugging it into
Nor does it matter, with that pickup. ;D
I just want it to sound raw and ugly.
I'm putting it into a silvertone paul stanley sovereign pro, 12-52 gauge light jazz strings, and through a sovtek mig 100u, with lots of overdrive and holy grail reverb.
the darn guitar is made of agathis. What does that mean for the pickups?
Quote from: franksnbeans on February 14, 2012, 05:23:33 PM
the darn guitar is made of agathis. What does that mean for the pickups?
well, very little, honestly.
Quote from: franksnbeans on February 14, 2012, 05:23:33 PM
the darn guitar is made of agathis. What does that mean for the pickups?
You'll be mounting them on Agathis.
thanks for simplifying it.
Okay, I got this dimarzio x2n pickup put in my guitar and it totally sucks! The old pickup wasn't that great, but this one loses all feeling. I gotta take it out and return it now. Fuck!
It sounds crazy, but for $5 get some sprague orange caps from GFS, use your stock pickups, roll off the tone just a bit. Be amazed! I am serious, it will breath new life into your stock pick-ups.
What do I do with those?
X2N does suck..ah well, now you can verify that.
I'll re-up my advice of the MotorCity Afwayu. You wont be disappointed.
Yeah, you all were right. The x2n is not what I wanted. It sounds like a bc rich or jackson shit-tone. They got no feeling.
Those motorcity's are a little pricey though. Plus, which one would you recommend? Where can I find some soundbites of those?
Using http://www.guitarfetish.com/Alnico-Fat-Pat-Boutique-Humbucker-Chrome_c_43.html in my SG. They have that lustrous "wide", and "open" sound (not sounding compressed), while still being high output (10k neck, 14k bridge). Basically hot-wound PAF pickup copies.
You should really check out GFS pickups; especially since you won't have to deal with customs, awful shipping rates etc. Even though they are cheap, they don't sound cheap
Edit: by the way, I've heard that agathis basically is "rich man's plywood"; i.e. really dead sounding, though I've also heard that it can sound pretty ok. Anyone got any experience with it? Do all agathis geetars sound dead or are there actually some examples of agathis fiddles which doesn't sound dead?
LOL.
You're welcome for all the good recommendations!
I'll suggest GFS pickups, again, but this time you'll buy some stock pickups out of an Ibanez on ebay, I think. Good luck to ya!
Just want to throw in my .02 on the gfs suggestions. I have a hagstrom that was really noisy so I swapped the stock pups and wiring with a gfs wiring/pots/caps kits and a set of fat pats. I will say they are an improvement over the hags stock '58 style buckers and reduced the noise.
But there is one downside... they sound a little cold and sterile when compared to the stock paf style pups in both my hag and agile. They're not bad (still very usable), just not really juicy or as lively as the stock agiles. I didn't want any thing higher output but they left me wanting a little more juiciness. Not sure why that is but it could be the hag as it has always felt like a lemon to me.
Send that motherfucker to me, I'll make it play like fire. FAT PATS are the cheapest option from GFS, drop the extra ten bucks and get the best you can from 'em. It makes a difference...
I'm buying my brother's 490's that came out of his sg. They were replaced in his sg with gfs p90's if that makes you all happy? :)
Quote from: franksnbeans on February 23, 2012, 12:36:47 AM
I'm buying my brother's 490's that came out of his sg. They were replaced in his sg with gfs p90's if that makes you all happy? :)
Well, at least you didn't buy some chinese surplus pickups in bulk from a Nigerian named Mumumbo.
well, there is a flea market this weekend...
Quote from: SunnO))) on February 23, 2012, 12:25:07 AM
Send that motherfucker to me, I'll make it play like fire. FAT PATS are the cheapest option from GFS, drop the extra ten bucks and get the best you can from 'em. It makes a difference...
I got it setup so it's playing fine, but it just pales in comparison to that agile I asked you about a while back. Just a better player in every way
out of box and was cheaper. I also use it with lighter strings and D standard as apposed to the C stnd heavy strings on the hag, so I wonder if that's the reason? Plus the agile has a thicker cap so it's a lot less dark than the hag.
Nah, strings shouldn't make that big of a difference. Maybe there's something else afoot. I always go for as heavy as I can for the tuning I'm in... 58-11 in Eb. B... 68-14
Yeah I scaled down from skinny top heavy bottoms to those dunlop heavy cores. kinda liking .09's-.10's sets currently.
I use the biggest shit available to me, it just sounds...bigger. Derpish statement but that's how it is.
I like the Ernie Ball Power slinkies, large w/o requiring nut filing. 13-54 off the top of my head with a plain .22 3rd string. And jazz III or big stubby picks. I can't believe I used to use a .68 dunlop. Might as well be paper. The pick makes more difference than anything.
Daddario 4 lyfw. Higher tension. Gator grip 2.0s
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