I was wondering what the current draw at 9v was with the pharaoh supreme, or even better, just a loose range like '100-200mA or something for all your pedals.
then I was wondering if you saw anything wrong with daisy-chaining 2 of those USB 5v 1A supplies to build a 10v (that may sag a hair under load anyway) 1 A pedal supply in a pinch?
Low consumption, All under 12mA.
When a one spot can be had for under 20 bux, and deliver plenty of power in a relatively clean manner, I cant condone fucking around with any lesser option.
Concur with Mark
ok, this one spot is the info I am looking for. right. I would rather not rig shit either but i'm not paying $100 for a 9v octopus either.
thx for the info. ya 12mA is nice low consumption
and this is why we ask lots of questions before we try things. make all mistakes on paper. way cheaper.
ok, this has helped.
I looked up the 1 spot system. nice. and decent pricing. 1700mA is some beef.
so rather than jerk with usb supplies, I can just splice more taps into my trusty old 9v enercell I have been using for 1 pedal at a time.
it is an 800mA supply.
I looked up the malekko delay and it uses 50mA. so that and the pharaoh are no sweat.
I already added an extension to it, so I can just tap the parallel wad of wires into there.
then if I need a second one, I just get a one-spot and a power plug array for maybe $30 total.
thank you gentlemen.
one more concept checked off the list of thousands.
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Yes sir.
8)
Quote from: jibberish on October 31, 2014, 04:19:12 PM
and this is why we ask lots of questions before we try things. make all mistakes on paper. way cheaper.
Or instead of overcomplicating everything in your head, you could start simple before you decide to make a Rube Goldberg machine to wind power your pedals.
Be practical, be fine. Mantra.
I have several of these usb power supplies, so it would be a simple matter to hack 2 usb cables into a 10v 1000mA supply for free for a second pedal supply in 5 minutes.
so not rube at all. more instantly doable. but maybe 10v isn't so good. usually 10% overvoltage is no sweat, but I cant assume that.
the key info was the current draw. any tard can splice more taps into a 9v wall wart now that I see the draws are so low. so this tard is gonna commence to splicing.
but you see, I did all my exploring on paper. at the end of the day, I find that old dead universal radio shack supply, steal the correct sized end and solder it to the other splice for a second power tap, which is all I need for now. I ended up with the cleanest cheapest solution at the end.
Not sure if they're selling them officially yet but I got a couple of samples of usb cables that had a built in transfomer and regulator that you plugged into those usb power supplies and gave you a regulated 9V 700mA output. Also runnable off the usb port on the laptop.
Looks like this one but it's 9V not 12V:
(http://frodo.digidave.co.uk/files/images/product/449/3/AA906ML_no_border_250x250.jpg)
http://myvolts.com/product.php/16220/0/12V_Acoustic_Solutions_MK-928_Keyboard_USB_power_supply
^nice to see others think along the lines I do at times.
ps. someone needs to market pharaohs to keyboard/organ players.
after playing with my greta "tube driver" and the pharaoh "transistor driver" and comparing them, the feel of the distortion is different. tube is floppy sloppy goodness whereas the transistor is a tighter buzz. liquid's song is a great example of transistor buzz. exquisite tone. and when an organ patch is compared through both, the difference is big between tube slop and ss slop. both are great.
then the pharaoh supreme has the tone booster which leaves subtle higher freq stuff alone. my MT-2 just hammers everything into oblivion. MT-2 is a guitar only effect IMO.
i'm thinking about a second one for stereo stuff.
also synth bass is the shit with the pharaoh. it was built with bass use in mind and it does not disappoint when used for synth bass. if I play bass in a project, that's how I will go: keyboard-pharaoh->
mostly because I can play keys 10x better than bass guitar heh.
The metal zone will forever be the worst sounding distortion I have ever heard, next to the DOD death metal pedal.
Wow. That's a hell of an endorsement.
Thanks for the thoughtful analysis, and I must commend you for your discerning ear of impeccable taste.
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Yeah, my Pharaoh is pretty alright.
:-*:-*
Yeah I've been using my to great............effect :P
That affects me deeply. :D
Where specifically? Asking for a friend.
Hey Jake, do you like any of those 80's DOD pedals?
Quote from: VOLVO))) on December 05, 2014, 12:31:40 AM
Where specifically? Asking for a friend.
Down to my solar plexus , meow meow meow.
Thx for asking.
As I read this page, I was wondering why I ain't got no pharaoh yet.
The "meow meow meow" sealed the deal.
It is time.
Can I get a special Don Gato Edition?
Artwork should be the funeral procession:
"It wasn't very merry meow meow meow
Going to the cemetery meow meow meow
For the ending of Don Gato..."
Hah. I love it.
Lemme talk to my printer, see what he can do. Id love to do a limited edition Don Gato Pharaoh. ;D
Shit, it would only be my third Pharaoh, but I'd like to be in on that. DO IT!
Lemme Know
Quote from: The Shocker on December 05, 2014, 09:38:34 AM
Hey Jake, do you like any of those 80's DOD pedals?
AMERICAN METAL
Back when the Dimebag sound was all the rage (CFH - Vulgar Display era), that MetalZone was pretty popular. For some time the HM2s were second hand bargain bin items, and everyone had at least one that they weren't using - at least in my circles. Once they were discontinued and Ebay popped up, they were collectible vintage effects. I recall at the time that the metal zone was even moreso.
not that that makes either of them sound good or bad.
the original MT-2 is strange. look at the schematic. strange.
I don't like any of the boss full on distortions. the 3 knob one is really bad.
The thing that makes the MT-2 special is a certain tone it has. Keep the distortion knob off or 9 o'clock max or so just to put a slight haze of distortion in. the circuit is working a little even with the knob all the way down. Then play with the 2 tones in the middle to get just the right sound. Nothing else like this that I have heard and it is really nice. i'll have to make a track with some mt-2 settings. So I won't get rid of it. It just isn't part of the daily toolbox any longer.
my beef is that the distortion is just full on crap out mode and the pedal is noisy. a synth has too much going on and it just all gets blurred together.
it is fun for the guitar for screwing around, but I have a roadkill, which is arguably the crappiest dist ever made, for if I want pure crap driver. it is so rough and ugly heh.
Yeah, for some reason, the original MT-2's go for a lot.
didn't helmet do an album with an mt-2? was it betty? I should listen to that to really listen to what they are doing.
I believe I found a great MT-2 example. This was sequenced bass+drums onto roland HD recorder. it has add-on onboard effects processors and I hear reverb on the tracks.
There is a rhythm and a lead guitar.
the rhythm has the MT-2 with the dist turned up being used as a distortion box proper. notice it works in the mix and all, but it is not all that nice. both tracks were with the cortez 197x LP. the recording is clean, maybe too clean heh, but that helps get a good listen to the guitars.
what is nice is the lead of the outro. this is with the dist on, but the dist knob all the way off and you can hear weird harmonics at times and some dist on hard hits, but mostly it's just weird tone and it leaves the highs alone pretty much, well you can goose the highs with the knobs too...sounds like a familiar theme: goose highs to hear wtf is going on.
the song proper ends at like 2:50 and it then goes into the long outro jam. so 3:00 is just the rhythm. it sounds nicer, the lighter the strums, then gets pretty lost when really hitting it. I think the lead is some of the prettiest sounding guitar noise I have ever made and just that touch of the MT-2 is key.
ps: bonus points for noticing where I pay homage to Twiggy in buck rogers 21st century haha. Also, I linked this in a thread before so it isn't anything new, just a new look at it.
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/doktordeath/whiterabbit-cover-doktor-death[/soundcloud]
so the little beast stays.
Um, yeah.
The Metal Zone is an absolutely hideous sounding pedal.
Why would you shit up a thread about Dark Arts Toneworks products with mention of it, nevermind providing a fecal sound sample—even if you did start the thread?
I think he thinks it sounds good?
IMO, all of these devices are tools for sound shaping. No tool is bad in itself. 8)
That said, if I ever wanted to sound like a bakers dozen of tapeworms chaotically trying to escape a baking can of scat, then I would find the MZ a fucking awesome tool.
Its all in a properly executed application.
BTW, I didn't listen to the sound sample. ;D , nor do i have an unfavorable reaction to cavorting with shit worms.
ok, nevermind. trying to show something and the monkeys cant handle it.
If the Riffer is a monkey, I'll be a monkey's uncle.
Settle down Jib. I'm no stranger to crap:
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/08/2dc008610eac6a825b93ec53d9755200.jpg)
Picked it up for the price of lunch.
Shitty lunch.
Shit Sandwich
Did you record that metal zone directly into a boombox, inside of a metal trashcan?
If not, you emulated thay effect really well.
Did you catch the subtle robot reference Jake?
so, in conclusion, this is why the PS has replaced the MT-2 for all general uses.
and that is why I am still keeping the MT-2 on the shelf next to the road kill, for when I want that one special sound.
and definitely, no more questions. heh
Please, just one more?
fwiw, I don't have a metal zone. I have an original run HM-2 heavy metal. the ones that people pay $100 for because they sound better than the metal zone version.
I also have read that a bunch of other people use it like I do: dist on zero, lots of gain and tones to suit.
y'all probably have never even heard an original one. your loss.
Yeah... I keep a Japanese HM-2 on my guitar board... You know, Entombed worship...
Quote from: jibberish on December 13, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
fwiw, I don't have a metal zone. I have an original run HM-2 heavy metal. the ones that people pay $100 for because they sound better than the metal zone version.
I also have read that a bunch of other people use it like I do: dist on zero, lots of gain and tones to suit.
y'all probably have never even heard an original one. your loss.
How many times in this thread did you say you have an MT-2? Ten times and then you say "oh actually I don't have a MetalZone I have a HM-2". Don't ever change.
I think this is a troll thread. And that song is trolling too.
oh shit. yeah, I was fucking up. I got mt-2 in my head. it's an hm-2.
and the end of this thread was really about how even the hm-2 is getting retired except for one tone
sorry about the confusion. my bad.
should I edit all those into hm-2?
I hate my Boss DS-1.
Or is it an SD-1?
Ah, fuck it; I can't remember...
I've got a metal zone. I modded it. Still sounds crap, but I used it for distorted vocals and it was pretty cool. The eq is helpful, but I think my mods screwed with it because now it (the eq) acts funny.
Quote from: VOLVO))) on December 04, 2014, 01:01:44 PM
The metal zone will forever be the worst sounding distortion I have ever heard, next to the DOD death metal pedal.
Both are raging tone machines next to a DOD Supra Distortion.
But yeah, it kills the fun of a Six Feet Under cover..."turn that fucking MT2 OFF! For fucks sake man, that pedal? That's your tone?"
I wonder if the Keeley modded ones are worth a shit...but really, aren't there a million better "metal" dirtboxes on the market by now? Get a Joyo or Biyang copy of a real pedal :D
I keeed...not really though...