best sounding high gain solid state guitar amps for metal?

[clockwork green]

Having another man make your clothes is like having another man farm your food which is like having another man generate your electricity which is like having another man build your dream amp which is like having another man father your children which is like the best thing ever because kids fucking suck. 

[Hemisaurus]

"It's just an amp, for fuck's sake, if you don't like the sound, turn one of the knobs, and quit crying about it on the internet."

Whoa, uh, sorry, dude.

Wow, a real life illustration of the old joke, about saying out loud at a party, the trouble with women is they take everything personally and see how many say well I don't

ROFL

[liquidsmoke]

"It's just an amp, for fuck's sake, if you don't like the sound, turn one of the knobs, and quit crying about it on the internet."

Whoa, uh, sorry, dude.

Wow, a real life illustration of the old joke, about saying out loud at a party, the trouble with women is they take everything personally and see how many say well I don't

ROFL

BAM!
If you need me I'll be building my dream amp, texts would be best.

[Hemisaurus]

If you need me I'll be building my dream amp, texts would be best.

Cool

[Hemisaurus]

Having another man make your clothes is like having another man farm your food which is like having another man generate your electricity which is like having another man build your dream amp which is like having another man father your children which is like the best thing ever because kids fucking suck. 

Wow, so you rate sex, clothing, food and your amp on the same level, that's either really great, or really sad for you, I'm going with the latter.

[Hemisaurus]

Oh yeah, and can Sunn have your gf's number please

[clockwork green]

Shouldn't you be in another thread complaining about how much stuff costs or out dumpster diving for lunch?

[VOLVO)))]

Cut the shit, you fuckers. If you want to argue, argue in gen disc. 

[Hemisaurus]

Shouldn't you be in another thread complaining about how much stuff costs or out dumpster diving for lunch?

Bit of a leap? It costs too much to impregnate your girlfriend (the after effects will )? Or do you pay as much for your lunch as you do for your amp? I kind of find it difficult to follow you.

Would Field of Dreams have been cooler if Kevin Costner had a bunch of guys come in, level the ground, plant grass, paint lines etc. etc. well it probably wouldn't have been much worse, but it would have been an even more boring story.

If I'm gonna lay out $2K for an amp, I'm gonna spend all that money on the amp, and craft it myself, not pay $600 for parts (maybe Nick can correct me here) and $1400 for some dude. If all you want is the amp, go to Guitar Center, go to Sam Ash, they've got walls of it. I'm quite happy to play an amp, and drive a car, but for the dream, I'm gonna do it my damn self for sure, it's not worth shit to me otherwise.

[dunwichamps]

Shouldn't you be in another thread complaining about how much stuff costs or out dumpster diving for lunch?

Bit of a leap? It costs too much to impregnate your girlfriend (the after effects will )? Or do you pay as much for your lunch as you do for your amp? I kind of find it difficult to follow you.

Would Field of Dreams have been cooler if Kevin Costner had a bunch of guys come in, level the ground, plant grass, paint lines etc. etc. well it probably wouldn't have been much worse, but it would have been an even more boring story.

If I'm gonna lay out $2K for an amp, I'm gonna spend all that money on the amp, and craft it myself, not pay $600 for parts (maybe Nick can correct me here) and $1400 for some dude. If all you want is the amp, go to Guitar Center, go to Sam Ash, they've got walls of it. I'm quite happy to play an amp, and drive a car, but for the dream, I'm gonna do it my damn self for sure, it's not worth shit to me otherwise.

Parts cost varies based on output power. For a 100W parts is usually 1200-1300 dollars. If you interested in seeing a quote sheet let me know

My policy on amp builds right now is to charge $200 for labor + plus parts and then when the time comes, customer pays for shipping after I have shipped it.

Maybe after all is said and done I might break even, that 200 labor charge is quickly consumed by solder, gas to drive around to my dads and back for drilling, often a few components I might have forgot, and or the gf fund...haha.

you might pay 600 for amp parts if u buy a weber kit but i could never get a complete amp parts for that money. I always buy new stuff, mil grade pots, well made iron, ect ect. Parts are never very cheap but customers always know what I am putting into amps. Its all spelled out in a quite sheet

I could charge a lot more I guess but currently I do not. I try to be honest about where your money is going into for each amp.

[Hemisaurus]

You're missing a market niche Nick, amp building and girlfriend impregnating, your doing your doctorate right, smart sperm sells

You're right, I do tend to look only at the electrical and iron costs, and forget chassis, headcase fab, panel fab, tube costs, etc. Probably why most of my projects are in recycled or odd cases

How would you feel if someone came to you and wanted their dream amp, but wanted to participate, like you wire the board, and they build it in the chassis, or something like that. I mean I get some people can't solder, but everyone can usually do something, build the headcase, design the art for the panels, something. Ship it sans knobs so they can put the knobs on

I think I'd find a quote sheet fascinating if you have a generic-y one that you feel happy to release on the world. I think the scary thing is, you can't build an amp for less than $1200, yet you can buy an amp, new for $400, just the sheer price scale down of mass manufacture, plus corner cutting of course.

[clockwork green]

You're all about the sex. All I said was that I didn't like kids. Maybe you're using too much Peavey brand birth control. Also, love the font in your signature...really subtle.

[dunwichamps]

I wouldnt mind someone who wanted to do a collaborative work. I am actually doing this with someone, they simply wanted me to design it, provide a layout then they would build it but i would also be open to doing more split work like say McNeese/Joel style. If someone wanted to do something of this nature they would just need to email me and propose the idea.

send me ur email ill send you my Wizard amp quote

[Hemisaurus]

Not for public consumption?

[dunwichamps]

Not for public consumption?

I will give it to anyone but I prefer to do it by email. It is an excel spreadsheet

[VOLVO)))]

I wouldnt mind someone who wanted to do a collaborative work. I am actually doing this with someone, they simply wanted me to design it, provide a layout then they would build it but i would also be open to doing more split work like say McNeese/Joel style. If someone wanted to do something of this nature they would just need to email me and propose the idea.

send me ur email ill send you my Wizard amp quote

[dunwichamps]

I wouldnt mind someone who wanted to do a collaborative work. I am actually doing this with someone, they simply wanted me to design it, provide a layout then they would build it but i would also be open to doing more split work like say McNeese/Joel style. If someone wanted to do something of this nature they would just need to email me and propose the idea.

send me ur email ill send you my Wizard amp quote

yes yes i mentioned them now move on

[bitter]

The Ampfinder General will now darken your doorstep.   

[Hemisaurus]

Not for public consumption?

I will give it to anyone but I prefer to do it by email. It is an excel spreadsheet

Would it be OK if I then translated it to BBCode, I wrote a script somewhere to do that.

[dunwichamps]

Not for public consumption?

I will give it to anyone but I prefer to do it by email. It is an excel spreadsheet

Would it be OK if I then translated it to BBCode, I wrote a script somewhere to do that.

sure. i give you permission

[Hemisaurus]

 

[Hemisaurus]

 

[dunwichamps]

the 50W quote yes!

[Hemisaurus]

100W EL34, no 

[Hemisaurus]

	The Wizard Amp Quote
	Part Type	Part Name	Quantity	Price Per	Cost	Supplier
	Iron Set
	PT	ClassicTone 40-18069	1	121	121	Triode
	OT	ClassicTone 40-18072	1	111	111	Triode
	Choke	ClassicTone 40-18058	1	19.23	19.23	Triode
	HeadShell
	Headshell	Cab Guy	1	135	135	Cab Guy
	Tube Sockets
	9 Pin	Belton 9 Pin	3	1.6	4.8	CE
	9 Pin Shield	Belton 9 Pin Shield	4	2.25	9	Watts
	8 Pin	Belton 8 Pin	4	1.95	7.8	CE
	El34 Retainers	El34 Retainers	4	1.8	7.2	CE
	Chassis
	Chassis	Custom Chassis Ceriatone	1	110	110	Ceriatone
	Circuit Board
	Turret Board Material 1	3.125 x 16 Turret Board	1	16	16	Watts
	Turret Board Material 2	3.125 x 6 Turret Board	1	6	6	Watts
	Turrets	Turrets	150	0.27	40.5	Watts
	3/4 Standoff	Watts 3/4 Alumnimum Standoff	12	1	12	Watts
	12 Turret Strip	Watts 12 Turret Strip	1	10.5	10.5	Watts
	Switches and Jacks
	1/4 Mono Signal Jack	Cliff Jack	4	1.4	5.6	CE
	3 Way Impedance Switch	CE Rotary Impedance Switch	1	6.75	6.75	CE
	Heavy Duty DPDT Switch	Carling DPDT	3	5.4	16.2	CE
	MBB Rotary Switch	PPP 12 pos toary	1	3	3	PPP
	Stock Caps
	250uF Cap Can	JJ 250uF Cap Can	2	9.25	18.5	CE
	50uf + 50uF Cap Can	JJ 50uF x 2 Cap Can	3	7.5	22.5	CE
	Cap Can Clamp	S-H122 Clamp	5	0.95	4.75	CE
	100uF 450V Cap	F&T 100uF 450V Cap	2	6.95	13.9	CE
	50uF Cathode Cap	Sprague Atom 50uF Cap	3	1.7	5.1	CE
	100nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 100nF Cap	3	2.5	7.5	Tube Depot
	68nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 68nF Cap	5	2.45	12.25	Tube Depot
	47nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 47nF Cap	4	2.15	8.6	Tube Depot
	22nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 22nF Cap	3	2.15	6.45	Tube Depot
	10nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 10nF Cap	3	2.15	6.45	Tube Depot
	4.7nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 4.7nF Cap	3	2.05	6.15	Tube Depot
	2.2nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 2.2nF Cap	3	2.05	6.15	Tube Depot
	1nF Coupling Cap	Sozo 1nF Cap	3	1.95	5.85	Tube Depot
	820pF Silver Mica	TD 820pF	3	0.65	1.95	CE
	470pF Silver Mica	TD 470pF	3	0.65	1.95	CE
	330pF Silver Mica	TD 330pF	3	0.65	1.95	CE
	220pF Silver Mica	TD 220pF	3	0.65	1.95	CE
	100pF Silver Mica	TD 100pF	3	0.65	1.95	CE
	Bias Cap	F&T 100uF 100V Bias Cap	2	1.7	3.4	CE
	Misc
	Breaker	4A Breaker	1	1.75	1.75	Weber
	Diodes	Weber 1N5407	10	0.1	1	Weber
	Hardware	Nuts and Bolts	1	20	20	Misc
	Bias Taps
	Red Bias Tap	Weber Bias Tap	2	0.45	0.9	Ted Weber
	Black Bias Tap	Weber Bias Tap	2	0.45	0.9	Ted Weber
	Wire
	22 AWG Teflon	Weber Black	15	0.3	4.5	Ted Weber
	22 AWG Teflon	Weber Yellow	15	0.3	4.5	Ted Weber
	22 AWG Teflon	Weber Blue	15	0.3	4.5	Ted Weber
	22 AWG Teflon	Weber Red	15	0.3	4.5	Ted Weber
	22 AWG Teflon	Weber Orange	15	0.3	4.5	Ted Weber
	22 AWG Teflon	Weber Green	15	0.3	4.5	Ted Weber
	18 AWG Teflon	TD Red	0.85	5	4.25	Tube Depot
	18 AWG Teflon	TD Black	0.85	5	4.25	Tube Depot
	18 AWG Buss Wire	TD Buss Wire	20	0.25	5	Tube Depot
	16 AWG Buss Wire	TD Buss Wire	20	0.25	5	Tube Depot
	Resistors
	5W Cement 39k	TD 5W Cement 39k	5	0.45	2.25	Tube Depot
	5W Cement 1K	TD 5W Cement 1K	5	0.45	2.25	Tube Depot
	220k 2W Metal Film	Weber Metal Film 220k 2W	5	0.17	0.85	Ted Weber
	10k 3W Metal Oxide	Tube Depot 3W Metal Oxide	5	0.25	1.25	Ted Weber
	4.7k 3W Metal Oxide	Tube Depot 3W Metal Oxide	5	0.25	1.25	Ted Weber
	1M 1/2W 1% MF	Tube Depot 1/2W Dale	10	0.25	2.5	Tube Depot
	1k 1/2W 1% MF	Tube Depot 1/2W Dale	10	0.25	2.5	Tube Depot
	1M 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	470k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	220k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	100k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	82k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	68k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	47k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	33k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	27k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	22k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	10k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	4.7k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	2.2k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	2k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	1k 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	680 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	470 1W Carbon Film	Tube Depot 1W Carbon Film	10	0.115	1.15	Tube Depot
	1% 1 ohm 1/2W Sense Resistor	Weber 1% 1R MF Resistors	4	0.22	0.88	Weber
	Pilot Light
	Fender Style Pilot Light Housing	1	1	2.95	2.95	CE
	Pilot Light	1	1	3	3	CE
	Bezel (Your choice of color)	1	1	2	2	CE
	Faceplates
	Set of Faceplates	Precision Design Faceplates	1	75	75	Sandy
	Knobs
	Chickenheads	Weber White Chickenheads	7	1.1	7.7	Weber
	Tubes
	12ax7	JJ 12ax7	3	7.75	23.25	CE
	El34 or 6ca7s	JJ EL34/6ca7 Quad	1	58	58	CE
	Pots
	1M Log	Precision 2W Mil-Spec	4	8.5	34	CE
	500k Log	Precision 2W Mil-Spec	1	8.5	8.5	CE
	5k Linear	Precision 2W Mil-Spec	1	8.5	8.5	CE
	50k Linear Bias	Weber 50k Lin Bias	4	1.8	7.2	Weber
	All Prices Below Do Not Include Shipping	Shipper	Costs
		Sandy	15
	Stock Wizard	Ted Weber	30
		Tube Depot	8
	1412.31	CE	12
		Triode	20
		Watts	15
		Stock Shipping Total	100
		GGG	10
		Tap Plastic	20

Futzed it about to fit in one post.