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Title: Model T Clones
Post by: Swurve on August 22, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
So I was emailing Conrad Sundholm a bit ago about making a Model T clone. He said he was into it and would call it a Model C(onrad).
Quoted me $2500.00
I ended up with a failing leech field at my hut, and had to forgo my plans of a ridiculously cool amp.
Anyway if someone is interrested you can reach him at www.conradamps.com

Swurve out.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: dogfood on August 22, 2012, 10:43:12 PM
(http://www.biytoday.com/leachfield.jpg)

Scum Liquid Sludge!
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: Instant Dan on August 22, 2012, 11:56:16 PM
I always wondered if he would do a clone or not of it or the 2000S.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: rayinreverse on August 23, 2012, 12:00:53 AM
If you're patient,you could buy an original for less couldn't you?
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: dunwichamps on August 23, 2012, 12:21:39 AM
I could build either the 2000s or Model T for around 1800-2000k if you used top quality iron.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: Mr. Foxen on August 23, 2012, 06:32:20 AM
Given the choice, I'd always take a new amp made the same as an old one, pretty familiar with how much fucking about old amps are.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: dunwichamps on August 23, 2012, 09:06:22 AM
the model Ts are wicked price gouged, and will most likely need work when you get them. Need to replace the 20uF and 60/80uF filter caps since I often see they are not replaced.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 23, 2012, 11:37:43 AM
Quote from: Swurve on August 22, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
So I was emailing Conrad Sundholm a bit ago about making a Model T clone. He said he was into it and would call it a Model C(onrad).
Quoted me $2500.00
I ended up with a failing leech field at my hut, and had to forgo my plans of a ridiculously cool amp.
Anyway if someone is interrested you can reach him at www.conradamps.com

Swurve out.
I can relate, just found out some bad things about my septic system, had to cut into the outlet pipe to get the jet in, found out they used upside down field pipe, instead of solid pipe, to connect the tank to the field. Thankfully it jet'd out OK, put a T over the hole to aid future maintenance, and a piece of drain and a cover over the access hole that had been chipped into the tank.

Good luck ;)
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: justinhedrick on August 23, 2012, 11:39:31 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on August 23, 2012, 11:37:43 AM
Quote from: Swurve on August 22, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
So I was emailing Conrad Sundholm a bit ago about making a Model T clone. He said he was into it and would call it a Model C(onrad).
Quoted me $2500.00
I ended up with a failing leech field at my hut, and had to forgo my plans of a ridiculously cool amp.
Anyway if someone is interrested you can reach him at www.conradamps.com

Swurve out.
I can relate, just found out some bad things about my septic system, had to cut into the outlet pipe to get the jet in, found out they used upside down field pipe, instead of solid pipe, to connect the tank to the field. Thankfully it jet'd out OK, put a T over the hole to aid future maintenance, and a piece of drain and a cover over the access hole that had been chipped into the tank.

Good luck ;)

the joys of country livin', eh??!!
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: ap on August 25, 2012, 02:43:07 AM
The Eagle twin guys who started Hex cabs are now making Model T clones.
They're rad and not $2500.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/apangry/hexT.jpg)
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: clockwork green on August 25, 2012, 06:24:48 AM
Maybe I'll lose a million cool points but those Hex cabs are fugly.  I didn't like the pictures but when I saw them in person when I saw Gaza live they were even worse.  The amps look good though. 
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 25, 2012, 10:11:01 AM
Quote from: ap on August 25, 2012, 02:43:07 AM
The Eagle twin guys who started Hex cabs are now making Model T clones.
They're rad and not $2500.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/apangry/hexT.jpg)

I would buy that in a fucking heartbeat...
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: apekillman on August 25, 2012, 09:58:41 PM
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the hex cabs either.   The heads look a little better.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 25, 2012, 10:00:56 PM
Wow, motherfuck do I dig those cabs and heads.

Y'all folks are silly. Those things look hot AF, and those heads look even better...
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: +--Stonah--+ on August 26, 2012, 08:00:08 AM
Ok, so how much exactly do these Hex Model T clones cost?
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: I,Galactus on August 26, 2012, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: clockwork green on August 25, 2012, 06:24:48 AM
Maybe I'll lose a million cool points but those Hex cabs are fugly.  I didn't like the pictures but when I saw them in person when I saw Gaza live they were even worse.  The amps look good though. 

But how did they SSSSOOUUUNNNDDD, maaaan?!

/considering a couple of giant killers
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: Discö Rice on August 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
Do they have an official website? All I can find are photos. I WANT DETAILS!
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: I,Galactus on August 26, 2012, 09:35:24 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on August 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
Do they have an official website? All I can find are photos. I WANT DETAILS!

Just a facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/hex.cabs (http://www.facebook.com/hex.cabs)
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: rayinreverse on August 27, 2012, 10:50:26 AM
Quote from: I,Galactus on August 26, 2012, 01:17:06 PM
Quote from: clockwork green on August 25, 2012, 06:24:48 AM
Maybe I'll lose a million cool points but those Hex cabs are fugly.  I didn't like the pictures but when I saw them in person when I saw Gaza live they were even worse.  The amps look good though. 

But how did they SSSSOOUUUNNNDDD, maaaan?!

/considering a couple of giant killers

I know quite a few people playing Hex cabs, including the bass player in my band. I havent heard a giant killer on its own. I heard it mixed in with a few other cabs in Gentry's rig when I saw Eagle Twin awhile back.
Title: Re: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 27, 2012, 10:54:28 AM
Those T's look fucking sick.
Title: Re: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 27, 2012, 10:55:38 AM
Nick, is there a non-invasive way to on
Install those backlit LEDS? The circuit cant be too difficult. Can it?
Title: Re: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: dunwichamps on August 27, 2012, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on August 27, 2012, 10:55:38 AM
Nick, is there a non-invasive way to on
Install those backlit LEDS? The circuit cant be too difficult. Can it?

No its not difficult at all. In fact I just did it for Rons GT120. I made a full wave recto off the heater lines to get ~4V then ran that to an RCA jack with a 100R series resistors. You need 2 diodes, 1 cap (anything will work just rate it for > 10V or whatever, a 100R resistor, 1 RCA jack, and 1 470k resistor (to bleed to supply when its off)

In this pic

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/480097_10151368801329552_1962626754_n.jpg

That large looking radial cap is the filter cap for it. I fit it on a 3 turret strip or it also could be done using some terminal strips 2
Title: Re: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 27, 2012, 11:11:30 AM
Im gonna have to figure out how to do it with my T. Some white LEDS. Any way to make them fade or brighten when I really dig in?
Title: Re: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: dunwichamps on August 27, 2012, 11:38:15 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on August 27, 2012, 11:11:30 AM
Im gonna have to figure out how to do it with my T. Some white LEDS. Any way to make them fade or brighten when I really dig in?

that would need a more advanced approach. Most likely use an op-amp to take your signal and buffer it, rectify the output and use that to drive an active device like a BJT or a FET in linear mode to modulate the current going through a LED. If you go that route a linearly regulated supply would be needed so another small PT would be required.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 27, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
Bummer. BACK LIT LEDS ON MY MODEL T, soon as I figure out everything Nick said to do.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: dunwichamps on August 27, 2012, 12:08:46 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on August 27, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
Bummer. BACK LIT LEDS ON MY MODEL T, soon as I figure out everything Nick said to do.

Schematic for you.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/196747_10151380639489552_116826005_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: Jake on August 27, 2012, 12:13:00 PM
I know it's a lot less challenging/fun to do, but...

http://shop.christmascentral.com/Items/sienna%2022372912?sck=15708859&caSKU=sienna%2022372912&caTitle=10%20Battery%20Operated%20Warm%20White%20Clear%20LED%20Wide%20Angle%20Christmas%20Lights%20White%20Wire (http://shop.christmascentral.com/Items/sienna%2022372912?sck=15708859&caSKU=sienna%2022372912&caTitle=10%20Battery%20Operated%20Warm%20White%20Clear%20LED%20Wide%20Angle%20Christmas%20Lights%20White%20Wire)
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 27, 2012, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on August 27, 2012, 12:08:46 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on August 27, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
Bummer. BACK LIT LEDS ON MY MODEL T, soon as I figure out everything Nick said to do.

Schematic for you.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/196747_10151380639489552_116826005_n.jpg)

Gangster, How do I splice it into the heater supply/How do I find it since the Second Gen T has a different schem that apparently doesn't exist on the internet? Does LED placement matter, I'm assuming some drilling in the chassis will have to be done.
Title: Re: Model T Clones
Post by: dunwichamps on August 27, 2012, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on August 27, 2012, 12:36:33 PM
Gangster, How do I splice it into the heater supply/How do I find it since the Second Gen T has a different schem that apparently doesn't exist on the internet? Does LED placement matter, I'm assuming some drilling in the chassis will have to be done.

Heaters are always wired to pins 7 and 2 of the power tubes and pins 4+5, and 9 of the preamp tubes. So trace the wires from pins 7 and pin 2 of any of the power tubes back to the winding and splice into those wires. LEDs are quite direct, they have a directional light that needs to be dispersed using reflectors or surfaces, placement will need experimentation.