So from what I've heard the peavey butcher is a jcm 800 clone-ish amp with 6l6's in the power amp. I know for a fact that this will rule with a fuzz pedal for doom. The only thing I'm not sure is if it will be able to deliver enough crunch and tight palm mute stuff for other styles of metal. Has anyone messed with this amps own natural overdrive? I don't really like super high gain extreme metal more like something along the lines of old school death metal or thrash.
So from what I've heard the peavey butcher is a jcm 800 clone
People also try to con themselves into believing the same thing about VTM's. But at the end of the day it's still a Peavey.
PEAVEY........when it just doesn't matter.
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
So from what I've heard the peavey butcher is a jcm 800 clone
People also try to con themselves into believing the same thing about VTM's. But at the end of the day it's still a Peavey.
PEAVEY........when it just doesn't matter.
Shut up.
I loved my butcher. Did the early Incantation tone with a slight boost. It's a clear and articulate amp. It'll do you right.
PEAVEY ......for broke ass niggas
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
So from what I've heard the peavey butcher is a jcm 800 clone
People also try to con themselves into believing the same thing about VTM's. But at the end of the day it's still a Peavey.
PEAVEY........making people go why the fuck did I spend all that money on something with a fancy nameplate for 50 years >:(
PEAVEY.......the sound of the eighties
PEAVEY.......at least it's not a Crate
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 03:53:57 PM
PEAVEY.......for when the sound is more important than the nametag
PEAVEY.......for people who don't worry about the label on their jeans
PEAVEY.......for when your too smart too piss your money away
PEAVEY.......for when it just has to work
PEAVEY.......show your not a sad blues lawyer
That's a good one. ;D
PEAVEY.....for when it just has to work ok.
Almost without exception every death metal band I have seen live used a clean amp with some kind of pedal like those Marshall thrash masters. All the European bands I've seen fly here with guitars and pedal and rent a couple of 5150 stacks locally.
Another trick if you want to use the amp gain is leave the eq neutral and put a graphic eq in the effects loop to get your low end boost and midrange scoop. I had a JCM800 with a 12 band studio eq in the loop scooped down at 250k and it sounded amazing for downtuned metal.
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
That's a good one. ;D
PEAVEY.....for when it just has to work. ok.
Corrected punctuation
Scoop nothing!
Have fun with your superlead going down every 14 minutes, Rager! :D
Marshall........for when your penis is this small
Quote from: SunnO))) on October 26, 2011, 04:04:28 PM
Scoop nothing!
Have fun with your superlead going down every 14 minutes, Rager! :D
hey I thought you'd been jonesin for 1959
People
Everywhere
Are
Very
Envious
Y'all
I dunno, when you think about it, Marshall started because Fender was too expensive to import, Peavey probably started because people couldn't afford Marshall's.
Also why were there so many more popular amp makers from the UK? Fallout from the British Invasion(s)?
PEAVEY.......from Deaner's home state so it probably has she-male jizz on it.
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 04:25:05 PM
PEAVEY.......from Deaner's home state so it probably has she-male jizz on it.
Marshall......working class in the UK, wanking class in the US
Quote from: Hemisaurus on October 26, 2011, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 04:25:05 PM
PEAVEY.......from Deaner's home state so it probably has she-male jizz on it.
Marshall......working class in the UK, wanking class in the US
funny.
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 04:25:05 PM
PEAVEY.......from Deaner's home state so it probably has she-male jizz on it.
Are there she-males in my state? If so, point me to them!
I do want a 1959 pretty bad...
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Wow I go for a hike and look what I come back to :o Thanks sunno. I'm glad to hear that early incantation is actually exactly the tone I was talking about. I effin love the tone of onward to golgotha brutal but very defined. Btw rager you're a moron. Pretty much every example of life footage from the early 90's death metal bands shows them using peaveys. In fact, peavey's are highly sought after in europe for death metal and metalcore artists much the same as marshalls are in the united states.
Quote from: hashbrowns on October 26, 2011, 07:02:42 PM
In fact, peavey's are highly sought after in europe for death metal and metalcore artists much the same as marshalls are in the united states.
The grass is always greener......
Except I don't know anyone who "soughts after" Marshall amps. Know people that have one or two, but they all want, like, Hiwatts, older Oranges and Matamps and stuff like that. At least those are the Brit brands people I know want. :P
Hell, every sad rocker wants a Marshall, until they get one. Many of the guitarist I've played with, and several more I know. Very few want a Fender though.
Dont be callin' people morons, man. He's just foolin'. We all do it. Stick around a while, we prod one another often. Gear is so subjective, and we all vary. Just be cool.
I play a jcm800, for the record. I just love me some Peavey.
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Quote from: Hemisaurus on October 26, 2011, 07:28:44 PMVery few want a Fender though.
Metal dudes don't care about Fender amps. But that's a small minority ;)
Yeah, then they find out what a Marshall is. :P Or they find out that when it's stripped down it's more like a Fender Bassman then they realized. The fuck is it with people not wanting a Fender amp? Seriously, I want to get a Bassman just so I can run effects through it. Great platform. :P
But yeah... Whatever.
I'm not going to even bother getting into the "Br00tals Def Meatlz usan Peaveez" argument that seems to have been put out. :P
Ampeg vh-140c, ampeg vl1002, and JCM800S with a boss hm-2 = swedish death metal tone.
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Quote from: SunnO))) on October 26, 2011, 07:58:07 PM
Ampeg vh-140c, ampeg vl1002, and JCM800S with a boss hm-2 = swedish death metal tone.
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don't forget the peavey bandit!
I imagine the only reason that Peaveys were used is because they were relatively cheap and the SS amps had the most disgusting (quite literally) distortion ever.
Yep I love poking fun about Peavey. Just for the record I own 3 pcs of Peavey gear, one of which is a bass amp that I love. I also own a 72 Orange. And (gasp) I have Fenders too and some other various other stuff. And yes I have a very "soughts" after 1969 Marshall Super Bass metal panel. Same exact guts as a Plexi. And fuck you Sunno))))), it can run a full 20 minutes before crapping out. And man does it sound bad fucking ass
I cant even get a full four minutes, what's your secret, moron?
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Quote from: SunnO))) on October 26, 2011, 08:05:43 PM
I cant even get a full four minutes, what's your secret, moron?
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you're the moron if you don't know!!
do you house yours in a fridge?
98.6 degrees like all men. I think its because i get warmed up so fast, I just cant handle it. I usually eat a sandwich after, then it works again.
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Hal, ya moron!
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PEAVEY......until I can get a MARSHALL
Quote from: SunnO))) on October 26, 2011, 08:11:30 PM
Hal, ya moron!
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At least I a gear moron. ;D
I'm not taking this too seriously either haha. I like all sorts of amps I just found a good deal on this one and it's got the power I need so I'll make it work. I'm glad it's got a tight overdrive. Sounds like a really versatile amplifier.
Quote from: RAGER on October 26, 2011, 08:11:35 PM
PEAVEY......until I can get a MARSHALL
i will probably never own a marshall 800. so little low end.
The reason Marshall's sounded so much better than Fenders to many people is not the amp, but the cabinet. If Fender had made their combo's closed back, they would have sounded a lot ballsier.
The thing about amps, is even something as small as changing the value of a coupling cap, can alter the tone of the whole amp, forget EL34 vs. 6L6 or whether Dagnall's sound better than Partridge vs. whatever the heck Fender were using, just changing a cap value can do it.
Mine is a beast. Has the same low end as my T... just sayin'
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What was that pink Behringer pedal again, the HM-2 replacer?
every time I listen to this clip, I dig out my Entombed CD's again.
Hm300 or something?
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Yeah I found it, hence the vid ;D
Yeah i like the sound of all those behringer old school clones. They have one for the fz-2 or whatever that pedal that the guy from ewiz supposedly uses. It also sounds pretty spot on. Thats one of the nice things about a butcher is that I've heard that it takes distortion and fuzz boxes well so I could go for that swedish tone if I wanted.
I miss mine, nonoman owns it.
Quote from: SunnO))) on October 26, 2011, 08:30:32 PM
Mine is a beast. Has the same low end as my T... just sayin'
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Peavey's seem to have some great low end. My VTX has the most low end of any amp I've ever played.
Ashdown, mine has the most low end, even without the subharmonic on, probably explains why Tim Bagshaw still uses his, even thoiugh he's switched instruments ;D
Peaveys have GREAT lowend for guitar amps, My vtm's Transformers go down to 50 hz. And that muther sounds great on bass too. Of course I have a hiwatt inspired cab. Slot Ports on the back. Shallow. But bassy as hell even with the bass on my vtm120 at 0.