I'm usually a big muff or some kind of muff variant type guy, but recently I've been wanting to check out how something more "traditional" or "splatty" sounds. I've been thinking about checking out some fuzz faces or something along those lines, but I can't for the life of me find ANY FUCKING VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T PLAYING AT AN ALMOST CLEAN LEVEL. Anyways, I know the Big Muff can get pretty "splatty"/nasty sounding, doesn't seem to work too well on my Model T's though, I notice it works best on amps like Marshalls, Fenders, (non-master) etc. Yes, I know about the swollen pickle, used to have one, regret getting rid of it. >:(
The only videos I can find to my liking would be the Oxfuzz videos, but, I'm not sure how close to Fuzzface's they are..
I feel the pain with the youtube demos. No one seems to be able to get fuzz demos right. I don't even think FBG does it right every time.
Anyway, the dood who makes the OxFuzz says it's based on the Arbiter Fuzz Face, of course with upgrades, but if we take the Fender Model T as an example, just because something is said to be an upgraded version of something doesn't really mean that. I think the OxFuzz definitely has the Fuzz Face vibe just with much, much more tonal variations available from it.
I use a Mountainking Electronics Megalith, which does have the ability to get splatty. Also use a Sunn Buzz, but only to add a lot of mids and a bit of highs to on tap distortion from the amp I'm running it through (in this case it's my betas). The Buzz is indeed quite traditional, but it's pretty gutless, it's not one for a lot of low end. I just use it as a supplement, heh.
I have a fuzzface pedal here which I just built with a FAC type control. they are pretty tight if its silicon transistors. I also have a germanium fuzzface which I built is much more wild, very raw. It can get sorta ragged if you adjust the internal trimmer to bias the output transistor in a hard manner
Are you looking to buy one or just fuck with it?
If you wanna test drive one let me know, you can borrow the Ge FF I have.
I love my Meatheads, MJM London Fuzz and Devi Ever TP, all based on the fuzz face (well, not sure about the TP, but it sounds like one). Great thing about the MJM especially is how it cleans up by lowering the volume on the guitar, all the way to mild overdrive type sounds. The Meathead does that too, but it also gets treblier, the MJM sounds more natural through the whole range.
I'd like a good Muff too. Which are the ones do you like best?
Quote from: Volume on October 14, 2011, 03:19:02 AM
I love my Meatheads, MJM London Fuzz and Devi Ever TP, all based on the fuzz face (well, not sure about the TP, but it sounds like one). Great thing about the MJM especially is how it cleans up by lowering the volume on the guitar, all the way to mild overdrive type sounds. The Meathead does that too, but it also gets treblier, the MJM sounds more natural through the whole range.
I'd like a good Muff too. Which are the ones do you like best?
LSTR and Pharaoh, more LSTR for very clean amps, Pharaoh for overdriven amps
Quote from: dunwichamps on October 14, 2011, 03:02:53 AM
Are you looking to buy one or just fuck with it?
If you wanna test drive one let me know, you can borrow the Ge FF I have.
Not sure yet... Mostly to fuck with for now, just to see if it's something I could get into. That's a cool gesture on your part dude. I may take you up on that someday.
Quote from: Volume on October 14, 2011, 03:19:02 AM
I'd like a good Muff too. Which are the ones do you like best?
I have a ramshead clone I made, the tone is awesome BUT it lacks a little low end. There's another I made from GGG (general guitar gadgets) but added some new things to it (white LED's for diodes, higher valued resistors in the gain stages, mid-range knob, different tone stack, etc) and it sounds pretty bitchin'. VERY loud output, it'll put my amp into distortion even with the sustain level all the way down.
I guess I'll just demo a few out from some people and see what happens? Or I could always just make a FF, at least they don't require a lot of parts.
I got a lot of gear hanging around so if you want to check it out no problemo. You could always build one, there super easy. Mine is a GGG kit but with NOS Ge parts and a powder coated chassis
For a frame of reference here is a demo of one my amps where I use 3 different pedals, BAT Pharoah, LSTR, and then my GeFF. Demo is long so you gotta scroll around to see when I use each pedal. I use them in the order listed here and you know i change when the gain is cut to 0 and there silence for a few moments.
Heres the same amp but just clips
GeFF
http://soundcloud.com/new05002/metro-clipped-with-homebrew-ge
BAT Pharaoh
http://soundcloud.com/new05002/metro-clean-clipped-with
http://soundcloud.com/new05002/dark-pharaoh-less-gain
LSTR
http://soundcloud.com/new05002/metro-clean-with-lstr
From memory, pickle, supercollider are both Muff derivatives. You can do like Duwich with a FAC or like the Supercollider with a pot and big capacitor, but being able to adjust the first capacitor drastically effects the sound of the whole circuit. It's like a 10uF and a 100K pot across the input cap. Or a rotary switch and a selection of caps for FAC. Grab your muff, suck it and see.
I gotta get a demo up soon, damn neighbors
Quote from: dunwichamps on October 14, 2011, 03:02:53 AM
I have a fuzzface pedal here which I just built with a FAC type control. they are pretty tight if its silicon transistors. I also have a germanium fuzzface which I built is much more wild, very raw. It can get sorta ragged if you adjust the internal trimmer to bias the output transistor in a hard manner.
Could anyone tell me which (silicon or germanium) would best get me into the stooges' Funhouse territory ?
I'm not sure what Ron used. I'm gonna go with Ge, based on how raspy it is. The Ox Fuzz was the best FF I've ever heard/owned.
Thanks. :)
There can never be too many Fuzz threads, imho.
Asheton mainly relied on simple setups with very few effect pedals.[6]
Guitars
Reverend Ron Asheton Signature guitar (Custom Volcano 390)
Reverend Jetstream guitar
Gibson Les Paul
Gibson Flying V
Fender Stratocaster
Gibson SG Jr.
Effects
Vox Wah
Reverend Drive Train
Mosrite Fuzzrite
Ibanez Tube Screamer
Vox Tone Bender
Amplification
Vox Super Beatles Amp
Marshall 1959
Marshall JCM 800
Marshall JCM 900
Sunn 2000S
from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Asheton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Asheton)
Perhaps peoples definition of splatty and nasty differs, I dont think of muffs as splatty at all, but the splattiest nastiest fuzz I own would be the Mosrite Fuzzrite...that thing is just rude and crude.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/156057_1438742100365_1587410632_30895139_7240439_n.jpg)
other splatty ones I own...Maestro Fuzz Tone...and the zvex fuzz factory gets some super splatty velcro shit going on but I find it unusable for the most part. I also have a JOrdan Boss Tone thats has nice vintage sound, but its more smoooth than splatty.
none of this sounds like what you want tho..kinda sounds like you want something thats juts a bit gnarlier than a big muff. like maybe a Tone Bender or a superfuzz?
(http://eu11.stripper.jp/pulcino/blog/images/Fuzzrite_in.jpg)
Beautifully simple.
yes really simple...the maestro also...i love these old fuzzs with like 5 components!
there is a germ version and a silicon version of the fuzzrite..and a couple variants on those as well I think...including one where the components are sealed into an orange glob like so
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sS1ZIOmvLCQ/TZoLlUHSr7I/AAAAAAAAAMY/PRpgUjorRlw/s1600/IMG_0336.JPG)
the version I have has(had) masking tape covering the board, the board looks like this
(http://sp.j-guitar.com/uploads/1352/r/productphoto_4e16f919-c834-4d.jpg)
I think someone makes a well regarded clone...the Buzzrite?
maestro fz1
(http://liveassets.rationalpathinc.netdna-cdn.com/usercontent/gear/2836851/p5_usxk3pm2t_so.jpg)
I prefer hybrid when it comes to Fuzz Faces. Silicon for the first transistor and germanium for the second. That way you don't have the temperature instability of an all germanium Fuzz Face, but the "Fuzz"-transistor is germanium, so the tone is more like a germanium Fuzz Face. I've had great results with OC140 or 2N1308 for the germanium transistor and a low gain silicon, like 2N2369A or 2N3440 for the silicon transistor. The original silicon Fuzz Faces are said to have high gain transistors (BC108C), but believe me, it sounds better with low gain silicons. Higher gain transistors make the Fuzz Face sound too bright and scratchy. You can smooth out the silicon transistor a little by placing a small ceramic cap (like 100pF or 220pF) between the base and collector, which I suggest you do. Low gain Si with ceramic cap for Q1 + Ge for Q2 makes a smooth and fat sounding Fuzz Face. At least, those are my experiences with this circuit.
If you want a more splatty sound then you just need to bias the second transistor a little higher than recommended. Maybe 5,5-6 volts? BTW, if you DO want an all germanium Fuzz Face, you really need an external bias pot for the second transistor. Otherwise it will be unuseable if you aften play at different temperatures.
If you want it to sound less woolly you can decrease the 2,2uF input cap to 1uF (film) and/or the 22uF on the Fuzz control to 15uF or 10uF. I also like the output cap to be 22nF instead of 10nF to let more 'clean' bass out.
My version has switchable input transistors one has a normal HFE of ~100 while the other has one from 5k to 7k. So it gets you supersaturated. I am still messing with 2nd transistor but I have one currently in there with hfe around 100
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/317097_10150483233839552_403563559551_11438588_1040676218_n.jpg)
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Grimnigzy, most of that gear you listed was pretty new stuff. I'll bet anything he used a Fuzzrite on the first albums. Chris Woojek was Ron's last tech, and I know him. But I'm sure he prolly wouldn't know if I asked him either since he delt with Ron's last rig. Ask Jor el, he met Ron too.
Quote from: Chovie D on October 14, 2011, 01:38:29 PM
maestro fz1
(http://liveassets.rationalpathinc.netdna-cdn.com/usercontent/gear/2836851/p5_usxk3pm2t_so.jpg)
Sounds like utter shit. I've had to fix a couple, I think they sound better when they don't pass a sound.
Yeah, I heard the Maestro was horrible. It didn't sound very good on the Stones' 'Satisfaction'.
Maybe it's value was in the launching of an idea.
Supposedly Ron said he used a Fuzz Face for Funhouse.
I realize that sometimes people get mixed up and don't remember everything correctly. He may also have had various fuzzboxes at the time. Saw that on the interweb, too.
Quote from: Baltar on October 14, 2011, 05:10:27 PM
Grimnigzy, most of that gear you listed was pretty new stuff. I'll bet anything he used a Fuzzrite on the first albums. Chris Woojek was Ron's last tech, and I know him. But I'm sure he prolly wouldn't know if I asked him either since he delt with Ron's last rig. Ask Jor el, he met Ron too.
It's just the shit that was listed on the wikipedia. Bet it was the Mosrite though.
Either way, the Mosrite seems to be a good choice. Never had one, but that apparently it was the box Iron Butterfly used for In-a-Gadda-da-Vida, which sounded really cool.
Kind of a shot in the dark here, but after seeing Dave Chandler use one, I've been curious about the Micro Metal Muff?
Can somebody explain to me why vids from an Ampeg Scrambler are so different in sound? The first vid is an original Scrambler, the second vid is a clone.
Example 1
Example 2
In the first vid I find it one of the best fuzzes, it's thick (on some settings) but in the second vid it's awfully thin and more a noisemaker ala some Z.Vex pedals which is cool if you want that but I want fuzz thickness with that upper octave. Is it the way of playing? The fact that in the second vid it's a clone? Recording techniques? I'm at a loss here.
If you're looking for a Scrambler clone with balls I'd look at the
Creepy Fingers Pink Elephant or this...
http://paisleypedals.webs.com/paisleyquasar.htm (http://paisleypedals.webs.com/paisleyquasar.htm)
there are some clips here...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/paisley-tubby-effects-quasar-ampeg-scrambler-clone-553770/ (http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/paisley-tubby-effects-quasar-ampeg-scrambler-clone-553770/)
Awesome thanks! That Paisley Quasar sounds real good.
Ronsound makes a Scrambler too called the Over Easy. Yeah Wikipedia was pretty correct on Ron's gear. Those Marshalls he had were fucking purple!
Ah, those purple ones look so fucking cool.
Bought the Vintage Modern cab mainly because of the color.
(http://www.gearnuts.com/images/items/215/VM425A.jpg)
I have one of these and it's fucking bonkers and I love it. It sounds awesome with vibe type pedals and wah and can do a kind of Hendrix through Weedeater's guitar rig sound but it's not as extreme as a DAM Meathead.
something like this first riff, but with WAY more bass would be nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPGfUKrs_w
Im getting a godzilla.
godzilla looks cool.
octave fuzzes are where its at for sure. Its not so much teh octave (which usually blows) its the crazy delicious overtones..:)
all my fave fuzzes are octave fuzzes. Superfuzz, BYOC leeds fuzz, and zvex octane 3.
I dig the octane 3 alot, check it out at :040 in this vid...
All your favourite fuzzes are Superfuzzes! ;) Well I think the 3 might be slightly different but the Octane II was a straight up Superfuzz clone with the scoop switch replaced with a pot.
Quote from: moose23 on October 17, 2011, 01:05:05 PM
All your favourite fuzzes are Superfuzzes! ;) Well I think the 3 might be slightly different but the Octane II was a straight up Superfuzz clone with the scoop switch replaced with a pot.
LOL you are right.... :D
I DO like the other octave fuzzes tho too, i just dont own them ;). would love to have an octavia, a foxx tone machine, etc.
I lucked into a univox superfuzz and its awesome..theres something about the byoc clone of it tho that i really like also Its a bit more scooped.
The octane 3 sounds diffren than either of those. Its not as smooth and at times gets that breaking apart rumble thing like Neil young or like inthe vid I posted. When you hit a low chord on it its like this complete rumbling mess that slowly forms into a recognizeable note after a few second...love that sound. like the first couple seconds here....
Sounds deadly, I need to make myself a Superfuzz at some point soon. Have a few Tone Machines and two Psychtars on the bench waiting to be housed. Really like the Tone Machine on bass but still want that Beastie Boys Gratitude sound.
Quote from: Chovie D on October 17, 2011, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: moose23 on October 17, 2011, 01:05:05 PM
All your favourite fuzzes are Superfuzzes! ;) Well I think the 3 might be slightly different but the Octane II was a straight up Superfuzz clone with the scoop switch replaced with a pot.
LOL you are right.... :D
I DO like the other octave fuzzes tho too, i just dont own them ;). would love to have an octavia, a foxx tone machine, etc.
I lucked into a univox superfuzz and its awesome..theres something about the byoc clone of it tho that i really like also Its a bit more scooped.
The octane 3 sounds diffren than either of those. Its not as smooth and at times gets that breaking apart rumble thing like Neil young or like inthe vid I posted. When you hit a low chord on it its like this complete rumbling mess that slowly forms into a recognizeable note after a few second...love that sound. like the first couple seconds here....
Shit man, I've been trying to sell my Guyatone TZ-2 here for forever...
http://www.guyatone.com/Tz2.php
well i guess everyone has a differnt idea about what sounds good to them in a fuzz.
some of the first fuzzes plugged right into your guitar, like the boss tone from jordan (lower right). The boss tone is a very good sounding smooth fuzz. I built a pedal that the thing plugs into so I didnt have to have it hanging off my guitar and so I culd step it on and off easily.
the lil izzy is some kind of pickup impedence matcher and the newer looking middle one is a 'boo-wah' button.
You plug it into the side of your steel guitar and when you smash that button it goes "Boo-wah". In the old days they used doorbells wired to a tone cap :D its lke a kill swith type switch, when you press it the swithc operates and stps operating when you release it, so you tap the button to get the desired effect
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39621_1320369701129_1587410632_30675704_8025855_n.jpg)
and a shot of the boss tone's board, like other early fuzzes its failry simplistic
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-mUhI0cxA7mzL_yjm6kKIh909PKUQWEc5JleGic58BYwv9XYAZLtnP97rAw)
Reminds me of the original muff fuzz I've seen in stores. Lovin' it.
Somebody should buy Deaner's Guyatone "the Fuzz" pedal, it's a nasty and wild fuzz. Inexpensive for a superfuzz clone, too.
How much, Deaner?
^ I love mine for a "tame" superfuzz sound
Quote from: Lumpy on October 17, 2011, 07:01:10 PM
Somebody should buy Deaner's Guyatone "the Fuzz" pedal, it's a nasty and wild fuzz. Inexpensive for a superfuzz clone, too.
How much, Deaner?
Damn Lumpy, that pedal price link's not working anymore.
How about $45 shipped? It's in like new condition.
(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff336/buttons-mags/IMG_0117.jpg)
Don't mind the dog hair, I'll clean it off.
That's probably the cheapest way to get into a superfuzz clone. Cheaper than buying the parts and building it yourself, maybe. I have an FZ2, it's a screamer. Why you selling it, Deaner? What fuzzes are you using?
Superfuzz is my favorite type of fuzz too (I haven't heard a bunch of other types though, like the Fuzzrite or the Bosstone -- not that I know of). I like lots of gravelly texture (I don't like 'smooth fuzz' that seems to be pointless, to me).
Just not using it. I'm strictly a bedroom player & I've been concentrating on playing clean lately.
Save it for later. Give it to your kid, when he starts playing guitar. It'll be vintage by then... 'collector's item'!
Some pedals, I can see selling (expensive stuff you'll never use, or stuff you hate) but some pedals are potentially useful, and the money you'd get in return might not be worth it... going to the post office, and all that.
Quote from: Baltar on October 15, 2011, 11:07:44 AM
Ronsound makes a Scrambler too called the Over Easy. Yeah Wikipedia was pretty correct on Ron's gear. Those Marshalls he had were fucking purple!
Ronsound also makes some great reproduction muff clones. I had the Ramhead with the 3 way mid switch. That thing sounded good. I regret selling that pedal.
Quote from: Lumpy on October 18, 2011, 01:15:28 AM
Save it for later. Give it to your kid, when he starts playing guitar. It'll be vintage by then... 'collector's item'!
Some pedals, I can see selling (expensive stuff you'll never use, or stuff you hate) but some pedals are potentially useful, and the money you'd get in return might not be worth it... going to the post office, and all that.
I see your point, but I'm more of a if I'm not using it why not sell it guy. If down the road I want a fuzz I'll try something else out. Still, it's not like I'm putting it on ebay.
I enjoy owning the mosrite and teh maestro fuzzes as collectors items...but the sound? Its useful for nostalgic purposes i guess.
Fuzzes other than superfuzzes that I like are Tonebenders and Fuzz Faces...I only have clones. would like a real tonebender some day.
I LOVE my rams head big muff but it's not what I think of as fuzz, its more of a tighter distortion sound. no splat, great note clairty even on chords, etc.
Quote from: Lumpy on October 18, 2011, 01:15:28 AM
Save it for later. Give it to your kid, when he starts playing guitar. It'll be vintage by then... 'collector's item'!
Some pedals, I can see selling (expensive stuff you'll never use, or stuff you hate) but some pedals are potentially useful, and the money you'd get in return might not be worth it... going to the post office, and all that.
Just checked and the Guyatone is discontinued. May be better to hold onto it for a while. ;)
By the time your kid learns to play the guitar, he'll be like "I want a fuzz that I can play on the computer". You'll download your effects from a streaming cloud database, or whatever they call it.
True, but there'll be some dudes our age that want one...
yeah , if your gonna sell any effect for $40..your better off just keeping it.
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yeah , if your gonna sell any effect for $40..your better off just keeping it.
*Unless you're flipping it for another $40 pedal. Or two $20 pedals.
Quote from: RacerX on October 18, 2011, 02:04:40 PM
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yeah , if your gonna sell any effect for $40..your better off just keeping it.
*Unless you're flipping it for another $40 pedal. Or two $20 pedals.
or trading it for a gram of coke...then yeah ....sure....
Chovie D wants to trade me his unused POG2 for my used original POG.
My bandmate mentioned she may be picking up the Verellen Big Spider this week.
^^for some reason this has a two minute intro - skip ahead to hear what it sounds like with a guitar.
sounds great!
really bad clips tho...
It cracks me up that people try and audition gear on YouTube
Mmm, this 4" Altec Lansing sounds just like my 4x12 ;D
QuoteOf course it sounds realistic, I've got a sub
Quote from: Chovie D on October 18, 2011, 05:17:04 PM
sounds great!
really bad clips tho...
Eh.. That's what was out there.
Quote from: Discö Rice on October 18, 2011, 05:21:07 PM
Quote from: Chovie D on October 18, 2011, 05:17:04 PM
sounds great!
really bad clips tho...
Eh.. That's what was out there.
yeah , just a lil dark and meandering..but the tones sound really good. I wish that guy all the success in the world.
Im skeptical of listenng to anything thru compu speakers too Hemi.
Its kind of amazing tho how sometimes you can get a pretty good idea of the sound of an effect from a vid.
The Big Spider sounds pretty awesome, especially the mid boost. Sounds thick.
Oh yeah, a friend gave me this strange device (because she didn't want it, she had inherited it from someone and apparently has 2 more) Pots inside date to 84.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/michaelsims/IMG-20111108-00760.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/michaelsims/IMG-20111108-00761.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/michaelsims/IMG-20111108-00762.jpg)
Quote from: Mike_Sims on November 08, 2011, 11:23:10 PM
Oh yeah, a friend gave me this strange device (because she didn't want it, she had inherited it from someone and apparently has 2 more) Pots inside date to 84.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/michaelsims/IMG-20111108-00760.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/michaelsims/IMG-20111108-00761.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/michaelsims/IMG-20111108-00762.jpg)
OH YEAH! Bigtime score.
Mine is a black label one from the early 90's and looks like its been through a war. Both sides are completely brown with no paint left (it was this way when I got it.) But its the best dirt pedal I've ever owned. Now yours on the other hand looks great and is even older. Thats a damn good friend you got there.
white label rat...thats no fuzz, but it IS an awesome distortion pedal.
Very nice with the box and papers and everything...just sweet. grats.
the rat isn't a fuzz pedal, but if you stack 2 of them together it CAN get pretty fuzzy.
i can't wait to get my big muff back from hemi . . . that is if i ever send it out!!!
I have the black label verison of that pedal. lm308 chip. Its such a great pedal. The white label version is highly collectible.
Quote from: Chovie D on November 09, 2011, 11:52:52 AM
I have the black label verison of that pedal. lm308 chip. Its such a great pedal. The white label version is highly collectible.
i have the "vintage rat" lm308. i like it a lot. i also have the newer one with the non-308 in it. i like that one too.
Sims, get me one. I'll pay you/chovie d will blow you for oen.
I'm not shitting you, Mike!
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 09, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
Sims, get me one. I'll blow you for one.
FIXED
I will apologize in advance for any offense taken by this. But I really just couldn't resist.
HAhA. you guys crack me up. Though the blowjob offer sounds great, I'm pretty picky about Bj's. Shit, I was thinking of selling the RAT I have. Shoot me an offer?
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I just got one of these in a trade deal tonight: http://www.heavyelectronics.com/GF.html (http://www.heavyelectronics.com/GF.html)
Only been able to try it out through my shitty practice amp with headphones so far, but it seems pretty cool. Does what the description says... kind of an overdrive/fuzz cross at lower gain settings, with the voltage up all the way. Dial the voltage back a bit, and it gets way fuzzier. Crank up the gain, and it also get's fuzzier but still with some definition. Seems to be more fuzz on tap then I'll ever need, and plenty heavy so far. Will have to see how it works with the main rig on Tuesday.
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 11, 2011, 03:39:25 PM
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cock shots or gtfo!! anyways, back on subject. That grind fuzz sounds pretty cool. I've been looking for a "grindy" sound.. I guess kinda like something really fucking midrangy and just nasty
I want something that'll honk on open notes, and smooth out on fretted notes... perfect example, lowrider - ode to Io...
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Fuck buyin pedals anymoar. Ima finna jus billd my won from now on. Anythang i wawnt.
Im finna build me one o'dem Rodent kits. I want a rat somethin' fierce.
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You'll love it. I used to live in Kalamazoo and almost every guitar player in town had one. They'd just be laying around in basements like empty beer cans. Everyone knew someone that worked at ProCo and would get 'em dirt cheap. I shoulda, coulda, woulda....
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 17, 2011, 02:43:16 PM
Im finna build me one o'dem Rodent kits. I want a rat somethin' fierce.
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Rodent kit doesn't come with the lm308 chip like the byoc does but you could just buy that separate for like $5
Quote from: RAGER on November 17, 2011, 04:00:09 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 17, 2011, 02:43:16 PM
Im finna build me one o'dem Rodent kits. I want a rat somethin' fierce.
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Rodent kit doesn't come with the lm308 chip like the byoc does but you could just buy that separate for like $5
Really? the big upgrade that lets everybody charge extra for their Rat customs/clones is a $5 chip? How hard is it to install?
Quote from: Lumpy on November 17, 2011, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 17, 2011, 04:00:09 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on November 17, 2011, 02:43:16 PM
Im finna build me one o'dem Rodent kits. I want a rat somethin' fierce.
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Rodent kit doesn't come with the lm308 chip like the byoc does but you could just buy that separate for like $5
Really? the big upgrade that lets everybody charge extra for their Rat customs/clones is a $5 chip? How hard is it to install?
Easy if you source the parts yourself and know the business end of a soldering iron
It's pretty easy to drop one in, I think they make sockets for IC chips so you can change them out like Atari cartridges.
Just pulled the trigger on a reissue Fender Blender. Any fans?
BYOC mighty mouse is a really good rat clone. I have an old lm308 rat and did a side by side comparison and they were damn close if not impossible to tell apart.
I built alot of BYOC, but there came a point where i just needed to own the original pedals they were cloning...the ones I could afford anyway. For example , in my mind there is no need to buy a BYOC 250+ as both those effects are widely available for cheap. a tonebender clone on the other hand, Im unlikely to find at a price I can justify paying, and the BYOC tonebender sounds great so why not? That said I still regularly use the BYOC delay (still on my live pedalboard)and the leeds fuzz, fuzz face and tonebender.
Deaner, ive never tried a fender blender but have always wanted to. ampeg scrambler is another one ive never had the opportunity to try.
RE: Fender Blender.
I think it does a better octave up than any of the Octavias I've played with (Voodoo Lab Proctavia, Dunlop Jimi Hendrix Octave Fuzz), but the fuzz is kind of weak unless you have the boost button on. I just leave mine on all the time. It's like night and day.
I've been playing a lot lately with a Boss FZ-3 (their OTHER analog fuzz pedal), and I keep the tone and fuzz all the way down. It still sounds good, with lots of sustain. I haven't opened it up, but I've heard it's all discrete transistors, no ICs. Some compare the tone to a Tone Bender, but they may have been emulating a silicon Fuzz Face. Any thoughts on the FZ-3? Any fans?
The Fender Blender has some great sounds in there. You can dial in a subtle Ring Modulator aspect with your fuzz. Better for indie/garage wildness than metal or stoner tones though. Can sound extremely abrasive. Thumbs up.
So how many original fuzz circuits are there? Seems like most everything is a clone of something else.
BTW, I've got a serious boner for one of these:
http://www.foxxpedals.com/tone_machine.htm
Quote from: deaner33 on November 29, 2011, 08:27:32 PM
So how many original fuzz circuits are there? Seems like most everything is a clone of something else.
BTW, I've got a serious boner for one of these:
http://www.foxxpedals.com/tone_machine.htm
you should watch the movie "Fuzz" if you havent already, all of you should it is awesome.
http://www.amazon.com/Fuzz-Sound-That-Revolutionized-World/dp/B000VUFJ14 (http://www.amazon.com/Fuzz-Sound-That-Revolutionized-World/dp/B000VUFJ14)
foxx tone machine is an octave fuzz and a very cool one. danelctro frenct toast is a good clone used for $25 or so.
the early fuzz circuits were fairly simple, the fuzztone, the fuzzrite, the boss tone
The most replicated ones are the superfuzz, big muff, and fuzz face it seems.
Saw that when it came out, but I'm gonna watch it again.
Apparently I like octave fuzzes.
Quote from: deaner33 on November 30, 2011, 08:12:41 AM
Saw that when it came out, but I'm gonna watch it again.
Apparently I like octave fuzzes.
me too broseph and its not for the octave, most of the octave functions are pretty mild, I love em because of the weird overtones, they can sound massive. superfuzz is my fave.
Ran across this site, which some of y'all may already be aware of:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/
Pretty much every pedal ever made is in the database and I really like how it shows a pedal's relationship to others.
For example, my Guyatone TZ2:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/guyatone/micro/tz2