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Title: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Baltar on September 03, 2011, 04:46:07 PM
?  Killer, killer fuzztones.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 05:20:17 PM
So Watt?

(https://taweber.powweb.com/store/sowatt_sm.jpg) (https://taweber.powweb.com/store/kits_weber.htm#sowatt)

Sorry, it always makes me laugh ;D
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Baltar on September 03, 2011, 05:25:34 PM
Is that a clone?  Looks wicked and clean.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 05:37:51 PM
I wish the board would highlight it or something, the pic is a link. It's a prebuilt chassis for experimenters.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Baltar on September 03, 2011, 05:39:06 PM
10 4.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: RacerX on September 03, 2011, 06:28:35 PM
This clone is the one I'd get if I wanted one. Mercury Magnetics tranny and Weber speakers. $800.

http://www.celticamps.com/Aislinn.html

(http://www.celticamps.com/Aislinn_files/a231_3.jpg)
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 09:01:09 PM
Celtic Amps from TX?

Shome mishtake surely ;D
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: RacerX on September 03, 2011, 09:34:18 PM
Watts in a name, anyway?

You won't find a better bang for the buck.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 09:44:08 PM
Err $240 for the So Watt ;) and it's already assembled.

But then it is sans tubes, cab and speaker.

$400 - $500 seems to be the average kit price.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: RacerX on September 03, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Right, but the Celtic is not a kit.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Baltar on September 03, 2011, 10:12:45 PM
$1000 for a JTM clone is a killer price.  It never ends....
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: bitter on September 03, 2011, 10:23:06 PM
Quote from: Baltar on September 03, 2011, 10:12:45 PM
$1000 for a JTM clone is a killer price.  It never ends....

Mmm-hmm  ;)

Looks clean. Daddy like.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 10:29:53 PM
Quote from: RacerX on September 03, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Right, but the Celtic is not a kit.
Yeah, but that's no fun, plus the guy says he takes an assload of time to build anything ???

So does this guy, but he's cheaper http://www.littledawgamps.com/prices.php (http://www.littledawgamps.com/prices.php) :)
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: spookstrickland on September 03, 2011, 10:37:38 PM
Quote from: Baltar on September 03, 2011, 04:46:07 PM
?  Killer, killer fuzztones.

Is that what Neil used for his Cinnamon Girl tone?  if so I want one.  Which model is the best to get.  I'm really starting to get into that old Fender Tube Tone with no pedals.

Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 10:50:05 PM
I hear Hydrozeen Electronics are about to make a killer one ;D
(http://music-electronics-forum.com/attachments/13726d1303856946-deluxe_5e3_layout.gif)
(http://www.kilback.net/homebrewtweaks/amps/5e3/deluxe_5e3_schem.gif)
http://thrasherswheat.org/ptma/equip.htm (http://thrasherswheat.org/ptma/equip.htm)

Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: spookstrickland on September 03, 2011, 11:25:39 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 10:50:05 PM
I hear Hydrozeen Electronics are about to make a killer one ;D
(http://music-electronics-forum.com/attachments/13726d1303856946-deluxe_5e3_layout.gif)
(http://www.kilback.net/homebrewtweaks/amps/5e3/deluxe_5e3_schem.gif)
http://thrasherswheat.org/ptma/equip.htm (http://thrasherswheat.org/ptma/equip.htm)



If I was not so scared of High Voltage (Electrocuted as child) I'd be all over building one of them :-)
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 11:58:28 PM
They're not actually too bad on this, theres +/-340AC on the rectifier tube, and it puts out about 330DC or so. That's low for tubes, some people run them down to 260DC.

I got my first shock at 4, 240V courtesy of UK domestic supply and a lamp in my aunts. Over the years, I've had blasts from the backs of monitors, and oscilloscopes when I've been silly, this 120V stuff that you call power over here ain't terrible :)

You could build this, and it could work first time, you'd never have to deal with the live unit ;)

Anyways, despite what I say, never do something your not comfortable with, say no to peer presure ;D

I really hate working under cars on jacks and stands :o

Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 04, 2011, 12:10:17 AM
OK this guy is making works of art, that board is beautiful. All the leads are sleeved too :o
(http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/joeyvelour/Velour5E3angle.jpg) (http://www.trinityamps.com/)
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 04, 2011, 12:17:43 AM
I've been trying to wrap my head around this for a while, when the layout mentions sending something to ground, is it a common ground, or do you find the nearest possible ground to put it to? Wouldn't that make a bunch of loops?
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 04, 2011, 12:22:54 AM
Usually it's grounded to the chassis. Which is usually fairly quiet, as it's a single solid conductor. Or at least my Alamo is :)

http://corbettwall.com/fender-5e3-amp-project/grounding.php (http://corbettwall.com/fender-5e3-amp-project/grounding.php)

Picture ;D
http://www.el34world.com/charts/grounds.htm (http://www.el34world.com/charts/grounds.htm)

Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 04, 2011, 12:42:28 AM
Right, I understand that, but I count 13 points to be grounded on that layout, how do you avoid making a shitload of ground loops? Perhaps it's just something you have to see to understand?
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: spookstrickland on September 04, 2011, 12:53:57 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on September 03, 2011, 11:58:28 PM
They're not actually too bad on this, theres +/-340AC on the rectifier tube, and it puts out about 330DC or so. That's low for tubes, some people run them down to 260DC.

I got my first shock at 4, 240V courtesy of UK domestic supply and a lamp in my aunts. Over the years, I've had blasts from the backs of monitors, and oscilloscopes when I've been silly, this 120V stuff that you call power over here ain't terrible :)

You could build this, and it could work first time, you'd never have to deal with the live unit ;)

Anyways, despite what I say, never do something your not comfortable with, say no to peer presure ;D

I really hate working under cars on jacks and stands :o



I seem to be one of those people that if there is a bad ground on something I'll find it.  50 other people can touch it and nothing I grab it and Zap >:(
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 04, 2011, 01:02:34 AM
http://web.archive.org/web/20070213041559/http://www.sonic.net/~ktstrain/Groundtutor.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20070213041559/http://www.sonic.net/~ktstrain/Groundtutor.htm)

bloody ipad erased my original whimsical pist >:(
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 04, 2011, 01:13:27 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on September 04, 2011, 01:02:34 AM
http://web.archive.org/web/20070213041559/http://www.sonic.net/~ktstrain/Groundtutor.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20070213041559/http://www.sonic.net/~ktstrain/Groundtutor.htm)

bloody ipad erased my original whimsical pist >:(


"That is why we usually have a "ground buss" to hook up to.  If  you can't put all the wires to a ground buss on one solder lug, connect several together with a heavy guage solid conductor."

100% understanding.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 04, 2011, 01:22:33 AM
Quote from: spookstrickland on September 04, 2011, 12:53:57 AM
I seem to be one of those people that if there is a bad ground on something I'll find it.  50 other people can touch it and nothing I grab it and Zap >:(
Did that Thursday, stupid mistake. Despite having a grounded cord, my B100 has one of those 3 way power switches, that reverses polarity in one direction. Silly bugger was trying to find a working speaker cable, and was holding the metal case of the input jack in one hand, and of the speaker jack in the other.
OWCH :-X
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: bitter on September 04, 2011, 01:38:41 AM
Got shocked through my instrument last week... Thought I was poked by a burr from a string between the saddles and bridge, but then got it off the fret wires on other hand. Not sure what it was, though I suspect the box fan sharing the amps electrical outlet contributed to the situation.

Couple years back, I tried plugging into that same outlet while leaning/extending over. I had my guitar on so I was focusing more on not knocking shit over with the headstock. Had my ring finger under the ground of the 3 pronger when I inserted and got this really strange throbbing sensation.

Both were very mild, and more nuisance-like than anything, but I don't care to be shocked regardless.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 04, 2011, 01:48:07 AM
2-prong power cord + telecaster + no shoes + pedal switch = electrocution.
Title: Re: 5E3 who's got one? Clones included.
Post by: spookstrickland on September 04, 2011, 05:04:19 AM
One of my next projects is going to be a Isolation transformer pedal for my guitar and mic so no more shocks at shows I hope.