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Title: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on January 22, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
Wife an I are going to be in Chicagoland in April for our anniversary.

Our tastes are rather traditional, budget middle of the road - $90 for dinner for two territory (is this unrealistic?)

We'll be staying downtown as my hotel points are going to buy the lodging, no car so cabs and public trans.

I'm already aware of Lou Malnatti's, Girodanos, and Portillos, and to be honest the Chicago basics (Itallian Beef, hot dogs and deep dish) are high on my list, but I'd like to venture to a few neighborhoods for some of the "deeper cuts".

Not so into Asian or Indian but itallian, Greek and French is more our speed. Seafood in Chicago?  Perhaps, but that's not where my head is. At least not unless its walleye cheeks from the Northwoods. I'm into that.

Also, some watering holes and record stores would be nice. Gonna look into shows. Where's that CMUG show thread when a brother needs it?



Preeshiatit.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: deleted account on January 22, 2013, 02:14:22 PM


this place comes highly recommended by MadJohnShaft
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: I,Galactus on January 22, 2013, 03:03:55 PM
Kuma's Corner - Heavy Metal Burgers

http://www.kumascorner.com/
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on January 22, 2013, 03:43:46 PM
If you don't get some good responses, try posting this in Gen Disc. Or bmail MF, he will have some good ideas.

There's a Greektown on the south side, not terribly far from downtown. Not sure which are the good places, so look on Yelp. I love all that stuff... saganaki (flaming cheese), taramousalata (spread with fish roe). Which is the spread with mashed potatoes and garlic? That rules. Avagolemono, yum (chicken/lemon soup). I think a couple places make their own gyros, as opposed to selling the stuff that is mass marketed, which you can get at any fast food place. If they don't brag about gyros being home made, it's from the distributor (I still enjoy that stuff, I'm just saying). Home made gyros is less homogenized, it's more like ham than bologna, if you know what I mean. I don't know how authentic these Greektown places are, and a lot of the food is not cooked to order (big pans of moussaka? No way) but they are usually enjoyable.

There's a Little Italy, I never went there (except for Italian Ice and Italian Beef) so I can't tell you if any of the restaurants are good. Probably nothing worth driving across town for. Red sauce joints, but "classy"... $$

There's some good Mexican food in Chicago.

For shows (and restaurant reviews), you could look at the Reader online
http://www.chicagoreader.com/ (http://www.chicagoreader.com/)

Reckless records:
http://www.reckless.com/ (http://www.reckless.com/)

Dusty Groove:
http://www.dustygroove.com/ (http://www.dustygroove.com/)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on January 22, 2013, 03:54:23 PM
Quote from: Pissy on January 22, 2013, 12:48:08 PM$90 for dinner for two territory (is this unrealistic?)

You should be able to crush, with that budget. I don't think I've ever spent that much money on dinner (maybe if you get a bottle of wine, then you're right on target). Very realistic.

The Hideout is a bar you might wanna check out. Kinda hard to find (tucked behind a Home Depot)
http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-hideout-chicago#query:country%20bars (http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-hideout-chicago#query:country%20bars)

There's tons of bars with character, almost too many to list. Good dive bars too. I haven't lived there in a long time, so I'll let somebody else recommend places.

Maybe consider renting a car, it will really free you up. Take a drive on Lake Shore Drive, all the way across town. It's a great view of the lake (and the city).
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on January 22, 2013, 04:45:34 PM
You couldn't feed the hogs for $90 in this town, son.   I would expect every place to be pretty packed - last time we stayed on a Saturday for fun we gave up and just got room service.

El Barco is kind of fun
http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-barco-chicago (http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-barco-chicago)


Are you just staying downtown?

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=fun+places+to+eat&find_loc=Chicago%2C+IL#l=p:IL:Chicago::The_Loop (http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=fun+places+to+eat&find_loc=Chicago%2C+IL#l=p:IL:Chicago::The_Loop)

River North has lots of restaurants

http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=fun+places+to+eat&find_loc=Chicago%2C+IL#l=p:IL:Chicago::River_North (http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=fun+places+to+eat&find_loc=Chicago%2C+IL#l=p:IL:Chicago::River_North)


Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on January 22, 2013, 05:08:18 PM
No we're into going wherever. Want to hit the musuem there, walk the park and such. Hop a train or a cab out wherever we want to go. But I've run into the issue of not being able to get a cab back home before on Halloween. Cabs all were where the partying was. Hoofed it for 10 blocks and finally flagged one down.


Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on January 22, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
Should be extra fun then.  I would get an Italian beef from Al's or one of those places.


I might suggest taking the train to one of the 'Ethnic Neighborhoods'.  We visit lots of world cities and have had good luck going to the local markets, neighborhoods, and street fests, do a few and just stay an hour or so.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Chicago (http://wikitravel.org/en/Chicago)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on January 22, 2013, 07:25:14 PM
You could visit the City of Evanston

http://wikitravel.org/en/Evanston (http://wikitravel.org/en/Evanston)


Evanston is a city in Illinois, north of Chicago, along the shores of Lake Michigan. Evanston has many identities: college town, dining destination, cultural center and gateway to the wealthy North Shore, although the city itself is anything but homogeneous in regards to economic status, culture and race.


That last part means watch out for blacks.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on January 22, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
Have you been to Chicago before? If you get outside of downtown, Chicago gets a lot more ummm... funky?

Have you had Italian Beef before? I like to order it dry. "Wet" means the whole sandwich is dipped in the au jus, which gets the bread soggy and -- IMO -- gross. It's still plenty juicy, dry (you could ask for juice on the side? I never tried that). And "hot" means hot giardinara (as opposed to sweet peppers). The locals would say 'Beef, dry and hot'. I never ordered it sweet. Hmmm. Maybe I missed out.

You should try Al's Beef and then head over to Mr. Beef to compare.

Take him on the Grand Tour, MJS.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on January 22, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
I have been before working trade shows.  Stayed downtown, rode out to a few places, saww The Sword and YLD with Woodgrain, then went and saw Eagles of Death Metal at the same venue.  Can't remember the name, it was newish then, Near Oprah's studio somewhere.

Took a cab about 7 miles out to see LogicalFrank's avante noise set, but didn't work out and that's when I had trouble getting that cab back to the hotel.  On the way back we stopped off at some hipster corner with a few bars to hang and drink some more, which was memorable on halloween.

Never had Italian beef, nor a genuine hot dog- that came from Chicago.  There is a Chicago dog place here that I imagine does pretty damn good though.  Has all the elements - neon relish, sport peppers.

Good to know about the beef.  I'll likely try it both dry and wet.


Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on January 22, 2013, 08:50:54 PM
I think the venue you went to is Reggies'? It wasn't open when I lived there.

Srsly, try the Hideout, they have alt. country stuff there, and punk rock. When Touch & Go did the anniversary show, it was in the street outside the Hideout. Good place to check out, even if there is no show.

The Reader is a good resource for your research. If you can manage having a car at your hotel, it really does free you up for cramming in tons of activities. Get one with GPS and no more getting lost, unless you want to.

Looks like Quimby's is still open... a store full of graphic novels, comic books, fanzines, etc
http://www.quimbys.com/ (http://www.quimbys.com/)

The Empty Bottle is a good place for music.
http://www.emptybottle.com/ (http://www.emptybottle.com/)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on January 22, 2013, 09:02:01 PM
It was The Bottom Lounge.

http://bottomlounge.com/

Empty Bottle has Killing joke for 2 nights that weekend
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: neighbor664 on January 22, 2013, 10:35:02 PM
Harry Caray's Italian Steakhouse
http://www.harrycarays.com (http://www.harrycarays.com)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: neighbor664 on January 22, 2013, 10:40:40 PM
Drank and ate at Kroll's a few times. It was a crew favorite.
http://www.krolls-chicago.com/about (http://www.krolls-chicago.com/about)
Reggie's up stairs is cool.
http://www.reggieslive.com/ (http://www.reggieslive.com/)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on January 24, 2013, 07:44:26 PM
Where's MF?  This tour of yours will not be very Punk Rock if you don't get a list of used CD stores and some other snooty places to patronize.

Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on January 24, 2013, 08:02:47 PM
Browse around here, if you need to get psyched up:

http://www.greasefreak.com/ (http://www.greasefreak.com/)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on January 26, 2013, 09:05:36 AM
You chicken shit yuppies - you should go to Punk Rock Burgers, then go to some dirty punk rock used CD store, then look at some disturbing punk art rock, and then stand around on a street corner in the ghetto freaking out the squares.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MF on January 27, 2013, 09:16:08 PM
I didn't even know this place had a Food forum until today.

Get out of downtown Chicago if possible. The heart of Chicago is in its neighborhoods, not downtown. If you must eat downtown - I dunno, the Omni hotel does have a pretty nice restaurant.

For semi-fancy Italian in a nice romantic setting, check out A Tavola:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/a-tavola-chicago
It's a straight shot down Chicago Avenue from Downtown. Take the 66 Chicago bus or get a cab for maybe $12.00? This will come closer to your $90.00 limit but it will be a memorable experience. The gnocchi is probably the best I've ever had.

Lula Café in Logan Square is reliably good. Whatever their special is will probably be excellent. It's very close to the Logan Square Blue Line El stop. Can get pretty busy though so maybe go earlyish? Can be kind of loud sometimes. You could eat extremely well there for less than $90.00.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/lula-caf%C3%A9-chicago-2

I really like Hachi's Kitchen
http://www.yelp.com/biz/hachis-kitchen-chicago
Great sushi, always tastes very fresh, and even if you aren't into sushi, they have great salmon terriyaki, the people who work there are lovely, and the ambiance is really nice. This is a short walk from the California Blue Line stop.

If you are looking for the usual kind of meaty food that stonerrock.com heart operation victims like to consume, I'd recommend:
Owen & Engine
http://www.yelp.com/biz/owen-and-engine-chicago
Very good quality British pub style food. The Bubble and Squeek is really delicious and a must order. I don't eat red meat but my wife really likes their steaks. Get a reservation. Very close to the Western stop on the Blue Line.

I could care less about places like Kuma's (even though I live less than a mile from there I still haven't been) and Hot Dougs because I don't eat burgers and hot dogs and refuse to wait an hour to sit down or plan for perfect timing in order to find the exact moment when a place won't be a pain in the ass to eat at.

Have fun! Chicago is great. Evanston is really good for getting a parking ticket while you take a nice walk along the lake and that's about it.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MF on January 27, 2013, 09:22:43 PM
If you want to see the old-timers, take note that one night of Killing Joke is sold out so you should buy tickets for the other night (if you must). I'm not sure which night is the sold out night.

Also, and this is so obvious I forgot to mention it... EAT MEXICAN FOOD! Chicago has tons of great Mexican food. Look around on Yelp and pick something.

Chicago Record Stores aren't nearly as good as they should be for a city of our size. Go to Reckless in Wicker Park I guess (or stop in the little one downtown on Madison if it's close to your hotel) or hit Dusty Groove.

The record store at Reggie's in the south loop is awful. Don't even be tempted just because it's sort of close to downtown.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MF on January 27, 2013, 09:25:23 PM
Also, if you want to go to a museum, go to the Art Institute of Chicago. It really is one of the best museums in the country.

Also check out the Cultural Center downtown - walk up the stairs to the second floor and make out with your wife in the room with the beautiful stained glass dome ceiling. It's still free to visit the Cultural Center. Surprisingly our stupid fucking asshole piece of shit mayor Rahm hasn't managed to sell it off or charge a fee to walk inside the building yet.

Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: neighbor664 on January 27, 2013, 09:31:42 PM
Out in Wood Dale http://www.u-gazdy.com/ (http://www.u-gazdy.com/)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MF on January 27, 2013, 09:46:01 PM
You shouldn't have to travel this far to find good Polish food. Here's a place in my new neighborhood that I haven't been to yet but the reviews look really good:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/staropolska-restaurant-chicago-3

This is fairly close to the Belmont stop on the Blue Line.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on January 28, 2013, 01:30:09 AM
If you're remotely interested in baseball, Wrigley Field is (I believe) one of the smallest and oldest stadiums still operating. I'm not a baseball fan but I might be persuaded to go there anyway, just for the spectacle. It's also smack dab in the middle of a residential neighborhood, and is easily accessible.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on January 28, 2013, 06:13:22 AM
Yeah, I love baseball, but I already looked into it and they're out of town that weekend.   :(
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: deleted account on January 28, 2013, 11:33:04 AM
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on January 28, 2013, 02:48:35 PM
Quote from: Pissy on January 28, 2013, 06:13:22 AM
Yeah, I love baseball, but I already looked into it and they're out of town that weekend.   :(

I wonder if they would give you a tour of the stadium? They might... Tell them you're a big Cubs fan ;)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MF on January 30, 2013, 05:00:22 PM
Oh hey, you're welcome for all of the suggestions.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Adam on January 30, 2013, 11:51:01 PM
I would imagine if the Cubs are out of town than the White Sox should be around. Won't be Wrigley though, which is a special place. Easily my favorite ballpark I have had the chance to visit, which isn't a ton but includes some of the good ones.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on January 31, 2013, 02:52:01 PM
Quote from: MF on January 30, 2013, 05:00:22 PM
Oh hey, you're welcome for all of the suggestions.

Oh shit. Somehow I missed them.   /spaced.

Thanks man. I'll look into them.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on February 10, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
Well unfortunately this trip isn't going to happen.  Fucking dentist bills.

I thoroughly appreciate the effort though folks.  We'll get up there, I'm sure.  And when we do, these suggestions will be  gold.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: crissgill on March 25, 2013, 12:18:44 AM
This is so obvious I forgot to mention it.EAT MEXICAN FOOD! Chicago has tons of great Mexican food.Look around on Yelp and pick something.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: mortlock on March 26, 2013, 02:02:14 AM
fuck chicago deep dish..ny thin crust is where its at!!
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Chovie D on March 26, 2013, 12:21:04 PM
Quote from: mortlock on March 26, 2013, 02:02:14 AM
fuck chicago deep dish..ny thin crust is where its at!!

mega-word. deep dish is a doughy mess...its not even pizza.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on March 26, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
Deep dish can be good, lets not go overboard. Supposedly Chicago is the only place they have good ones (and there's only a few places that do it right...)

Deep dish cold for breakfast > regular pizza cold for breakfast.

I haven't lived there for 15 years, but Giordano's spinach/mushroom deep dish was good. That's the one to order, wherever you are (spinach/mushroom). Meat ones are too heavy and gross.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Chovie D on March 26, 2013, 06:16:32 PM
deep dish is more like a wadded up calzone...just a big goey dough ball...only an american would do that to a pizza. >:(
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on March 26, 2013, 06:33:30 PM
Deep dish is definitely not for purists. It's not supposed to be gooey though. I guess it's a little wetter than a regular slice though.

I personally like a cracker-style crust. Runner-up: thin crust with a little corn meal in there (Two Boots does it like that). Floppy pizza is bad. Deep dish isn't floppy, you can pick it up like a plank.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: neighbor664 on March 26, 2013, 11:08:05 PM
http://www.jaysbeef.com (http://www.jaysbeef.com)
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: mortlock on March 29, 2013, 11:25:30 PM
basically deep dish is a calzone that hasnt been folded over..
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on March 30, 2013, 08:07:42 AM
This information on our deep dish pizza is both ignorant and wrong, what an abomination.

Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Demon Lung on March 30, 2013, 08:26:15 AM
In my personal opinion deep dish pizza isn't real pizza. It's more like a meat casserole. Traditional pizza has a thin crust. It's not droopy and has no more than 2 toppings. Even Californians are on some kick where they think salad is a pizza. Some of those foofoo brick oven places do make good pizza though
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: sleestak on March 30, 2013, 11:23:38 AM
Sorry, wrong.  Deep dish is good.  Who complains about pizza?  Don't order it!
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Jor el on March 30, 2013, 11:36:03 AM

Seems some of you are confusing pizza with quiche.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Demon Lung on March 30, 2013, 11:44:22 AM
I'm not saying that deep dish isn't good. It's fantastic. It's just not pizza.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Jor el on March 30, 2013, 11:52:41 AM

Deep Dish Prizza is just as redonkulous as the Meatball Sub
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: RAGER on March 30, 2013, 01:18:41 PM
Spaghetti pizza is pretty ridiculous. :-X
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Lumpy on March 30, 2013, 04:15:04 PM
Quote from: Demon Lung on March 30, 2013, 08:26:15 AM
In my personal opinion deep dish pizza isn't real pizza. It's more like a meat casserole. Traditional pizza has a thin crust. It's not droopy and has no more than 2 toppings.

Deep dish pizza only comes with meat if you order it that way. I already told you that the best Deep Dish pizza to order is spinach/mushroom. It's gross with meat.

Also, deep dish is not droopy. Where are you getting your deep dish from, Pizza Hut?

Also, i think some of you guys are confusing Thick Crust for Deep Dish. because you have been buying some bunk deep dish. To get a good Deep Dish pie, you probably have to be in the Chicago area.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on April 01, 2013, 10:45:17 AM
I think the West Coast confuses their sprout avocado covered toast for Pizza

Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 21, 2013, 11:21:11 PM
What ever you do, do not go to Billy Goat Tavern. No one eats there because the food is any good.
SNL. Nostalgia is the only reason this place is even open.  F'n McDonalds had better cheeseburger, cheeseburger.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on April 22, 2013, 09:09:36 AM
I suppose - I went to the one on Franklin a lot when our office was over by there.   Atmospheric.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: neighbor664 on April 26, 2013, 07:10:26 AM
I am quite enamored with Heaven On Seven over on Rush St. I've been there twice this week.
Totally makes up for the ho-hum meal I had at Dixie Kitchen.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: MadJohnShaft on April 26, 2013, 07:38:13 AM
Dixie Kitchens been there 15 years so they are getting complacent....


I like El Barco Mariscos in Chicago.


Did I mentioned evanston's Found in this thread?  The Morton's family opened it some time ago and it is always packed.  It's on Chicago across from whole foods by NU.
Title: Re: Chicago eating and drinking.
Post by: Pissy on June 17, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
I hadn't been over in the F/D forum in a while, so I didn't notice the Chicago thread was still going.

I've had deep dish in Chicago at Lou Malnatti's and it was absolutely awesome.  Butter crust special.

Also, the last time I went through O'Hare I got a dog at one of those "three tastes of Chicago" food carts (deep dish, Italian Beef, hot dogs), and it was awesome as well.  I was really surprised.  Perhaps the young lady working that day was exceptional because she made it look just like the menu picture.