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Title: Bi Amping Live
Post by: Ombrenuit on September 20, 2012, 11:36:33 AM
Currently use 2 1x12 combo amps. One a tiny terror and another a home brew based off a 70s orange. The mix of distortion is great in practice. Bass player said if we gigged the sound guy would only mic one speaker. Anyone bi amp live? Is it really a pain to get the sound guy to mic both amps? Any tips? I use a stereo chorus pedal to get things trippy.
Title: Re: Bi Amping Live
Post by: AgentofOblivion on September 20, 2012, 12:10:24 PM
I've never tried it, but I'm not sure why they would care since they presumably have the equipment to mic multiple guitar players.  Do you have another guitar player as well?  I would guess it depends on the soundman.
Title: Re: Bi Amping Live
Post by: justinhedrick on September 20, 2012, 12:17:30 PM
Quote from: AgentofOblivion on September 20, 2012, 12:10:24 PM
I've never tried it, but I'm not sure why they would care since they presumably have the equipment to mic multiple guitar players.  Do you have another guitar player as well?  I would guess it depends on the soundman.

this. i used to do this all the time and when they would say "ugh dude man dude, i only have 1 mic for guitar cabs" I would say "yes, but you have 3 vocal mics, my band only needs one". problem = solved.
Title: Re: Bi Amping Live
Post by: RacerX on September 20, 2012, 01:03:51 PM
Depending upon the size of the venue, I sometimes just mic one amp/cab. For bigger rooms, I prefer micing both.
Title: Re: Bi Amping Live
Post by: Pissy on September 20, 2012, 01:43:17 PM
If you're nice to the sound guy, introduce yourself and explain what you're doing, most guys will accommodate. The ones who like mixing can and often do appreciate multiple sounds to mess with during the course of the set.

The guys who don't care about how the band sounds or are old enough to be deaf, not much you can do about it I guess. 

Just try it and see how it goes. I'd wonder about him getting a useable signal from one 12, depending on how loud you have it turned up. That one speaker will need to be pretty loud in order to get stage volume, and likely will clip at the slightest crack of the trim.

I'm also curious about ground loop hum. You have a workaround for that at BP?
Title: Re: Bi Amping Live
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 20, 2012, 01:45:44 PM
I never had a problem sticking two mics on a guitar when I did sound, I worked regularly with a guitar player who had a stereo rig. If it is a problem for the sound dude, couple of things you could try.


(http://test.modemaudio.com/cras_mics/images/000000047_imgmic.jpg)

I'd try Vee-ing the amps at practice, see how they sound.
Title: Re: Bi Amping Live
Post by: Ombrenuit on September 20, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
The 1x12s together sound loud enough dimed for a matt pike sludge. I've mic'd them for recordings no problem in a band setting. They'd need to be mic'd live though for sure. Ground loop hum? Certainy is hum when I'm not playing but it's not too bad...

No other guitarist. We're a power trio. Bass player still bitches I'm all up in his frequencies haha