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Title: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: Submarine on September 04, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
Both sound different, both sound great. Which would you choose? Why?  I need some perspective.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: Jake on September 05, 2012, 12:13:28 AM
Those type of amps get very little love around here. But I'm down with either, since I am not one to use a pedal for disto.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: I,Galactus on September 05, 2012, 08:14:36 AM
I'd go for the lonestar m'self.  Primarily because I'm a boogie whore.

Are you looking at heads or combos?
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: VOLVO))) on September 05, 2012, 10:08:15 AM
Boogie gets my vote. You don't pay for an amp with Orange, you pay for Orange with Orange.

Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: Submarine on September 05, 2012, 02:36:59 PM
I just sold my Orange TH30 head.
I really liked it - the distortion was phenomenal but it needed at least 3 band eq on it.
Its was easy to get buried in a two guitar situation when all you needed was a bit of presence.

It seems like the Rockerverb is similar with a bit more eq functionality but the Lone Star crossed my mind
as a contender.  Its built like a tank and sounds like a great Marshall.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: Jake on September 05, 2012, 03:06:20 PM
Get both and let them duel it out to the death.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: RacerX on September 05, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
Quote from: Jake on September 05, 2012, 03:06:20 PM
Get both and let them duel it out to the death.

Fuck that. Buy/run 'em both!
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: moose23 on September 05, 2012, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: Submarine on September 05, 2012, 02:36:59 PM
I just sold my Orange TH30 head.
I really liked it - the distortion was phenomenal but it needed at least 3 band eq on it.
Its was easy to get buried in a two guitar situation when all you needed was a bit of presence.

It seems like the Rockerverb is similar with a bit more eq functionality but the Lone Star crossed my mind
as a contender.  Its built like a tank and sounds like a great Marshall.

With the two band bax eq turning the bass and treble below 12 will boost the mids.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: dunwichamps on September 05, 2012, 05:16:36 PM
Quote from: moose23 on September 05, 2012, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: Submarine on September 05, 2012, 02:36:59 PM
I just sold my Orange TH30 head.
I really liked it - the distortion was phenomenal but it needed at least 3 band eq on it.
Its was easy to get buried in a two guitar situation when all you needed was a bit of presence.

It seems like the Rockerverb is similar with a bit more eq functionality but the Lone Star crossed my mind
as a contender.  Its built like a tank and sounds like a great Marshall.

With the two band bax eq turning the bass and treble below 12 will boost the mids.

its more like that just cuts lows and highs so much that your overall signal is quite attenuated. you would need a large increase in flat gain previous to the stage to get the mid boost feel. Better to say that it doesnt cut mids at noon on the controls. just my 2 cents after building half dozen baxandall amps
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: moose23 on September 05, 2012, 06:10:31 PM
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: everdrone on September 05, 2012, 06:57:57 PM
I like my tv50, I bet it has waaayy more low end than the rv50 that most complain is not enough low end to do heavy downtuned rock

what style and what guitar you use need to be mentioned, maybe what pedalz too ;)
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: Instant Dan on September 05, 2012, 07:35:10 PM
Neither, get a Mesa Boogie Electra-Dyne.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: eoin_not_ian on September 05, 2012, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Submarine on September 05, 2012, 02:36:59 PM
I just sold my Orange TH30 head.
I really liked it - the distortion was phenomenal but it needed at least 3 band eq on it.
Its was easy to get buried in a two guitar situation when all you needed was a bit of presence.

It seems like the Rockerverb is similar with a bit more eq functionality but the Lone Star crossed my mind
as a contender.  Its built like a tank and sounds like a great Marshall.

I nearly bought a TH30 combo. Great distortion but yes I would have preferred some kind of EQ alongside, or instead of, the 'shape' knob. The clean tones on the amp were really nice though.

Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: I,Galactus on September 05, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on September 05, 2012, 07:35:10 PM
Neither, get a Mesa Boogie Electra-Dyne.

Fuck the fuck yeah.  EDs are the business.  Super minimalist (for Boogie anyway) yet versatile as hell.

Kim digs 'em.

(http://mesaboogie.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Kim6.jpg)
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: the diddler on September 05, 2012, 09:12:48 PM
Played an RV50 through the orange 4x12 for awhile in a shop, seemed cool but compressed enough in all settings that I knew I'd always be trying to dial some air into the tone.  And I played that fucker pretty loud and I'm sure pissed some people off.  Plugged into a Soldano next and walked out with it 20 minutes later.  I could see the rv50 working for some people though, not a bad amp by any stretch
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: planet doom on September 06, 2012, 12:29:40 AM
i sold a mesa to buy my orange thunderverb 50. mesa does one sound really well if you want to sound like lamb of god or old metallica. i've owned marshalls peaveys mesa laney and some lower end stuff but nothing sounds a good as my tv50. i owned the mesa for less than 30 days.
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: I,Galactus on September 06, 2012, 08:19:06 AM
Quote from: planet doom on September 06, 2012, 12:29:40 AM
mesa does one sound really .... i owned the mesa for less than 30 days.

:P
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: everdrone on September 06, 2012, 09:26:10 PM
I hang out on this other forum, check it out if u want more info on teh ultimate amp tonez http://forum.orangeamps.com/viewforum.php?f=2
Title: Re: Mesa Lone Star or Orange Rockerverb 50
Post by: Submarine on September 07, 2012, 12:57:44 PM
After all that: a Carr Slant 6 deal came my way.  I pulled the trigger on it.  Its a bit more hi-fi but I have a great overdrive unit to push it.
Gotta say though that Mesa Electra Dyne seems very cool.