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Title: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: everdrone on July 08, 2012, 06:00:42 PM
its really easy to download and use.  you can pick out your fav music!  I found some rare stuff that I could not buy, so I am pretty stoked, way better than xmradio pandora.com radio or buying CDs IMO, wave of the future, best thing since sliced bread!  I am sure most of you already knew about it and are using it, but just in case: https://www.spotify.com/us/signup/

its gonna make your day, cheers (I dont get paid by spotify, I just have been stoked on it after discovering it yesterday)  :)
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: clockwork green on July 08, 2012, 06:18:55 PM
It's pretty shitty for getting bands paid but then again that's the world we live in.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: neighbor664 on July 08, 2012, 11:24:56 PM
If fools would actually subscribe and pay rather than looking for a free ride they could actually have the coin to pay bands. The free version is pretty meh, I dig my subscription. More of everything. Money well spent.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: everdrone on July 08, 2012, 11:26:31 PM
the artist gets paid every time no matter if it is the free version that user chooses or not...  not sure how the royalty setup works with spotify tho, but it is certainly the waive of the future billion dollar company just legalized in USA a year ago ;)
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: neighbor664 on July 08, 2012, 11:28:44 PM
Sure, but were is this money supposed to come from if no one pays? They're not printing their own.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: everdrone on July 09, 2012, 12:36:44 AM
I dunno, advertizers in the future? did not see many advertizers now... lol not sure, certainly not like the 70s selling beatles albums and all that good stuff for teh rock godz! 
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: Pundan on July 09, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
I can also recommend you guys Grooveshark, in my opinion there's more stuff on Grooveshark that falls into my liking. Only downside to Grooveshark is that it doesn't have a iPhone/iPod/iPad app. Apple has rejected the app.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: clockwork green on July 09, 2012, 03:20:03 AM
I really love bandcamp.  There are some good bandcamp player apps so I can listen to stuff there but in terms of finding new bands and making sure they get money for the songs I'm about to download they're pretty damn good...apple isn't so bad either.  Spotify pays bands $0.0056 per stream so it would take 10,000 streams to make $56. Now if it's a doom song that's 20 minutes long then good luck with getting 10,000 people to listen to anything.   If 100 people on itunes buy your song you'll get about $65.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: moose23 on July 09, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Pundan on July 09, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
I can also recommend you guys Grooveshark, in my opinion there's more stuff on Grooveshark that falls into my liking. Only downside to Grooveshark is that it doesn't have a iPhone/iPod/iPad app. Apple has rejected the app.


Pretty sure Grooveshark pays zero royalties to anyone.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: everdrone on July 09, 2012, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: clockwork green on July 09, 2012, 03:20:03 AM
I really love bandcamp.  There are some good bandcamp player apps so I can listen to stuff there but in terms of finding new bands and making sure they get money for the songs I'm about to download they're pretty damn good...apple isn't so bad either.  Spotify pays bands $0.0056 per stream so it would take 10,000 streams to make $56. Now if it's a doom song that's 20 minutes long then good luck with getting 10,000 people to listen to anything.   If 100 people on itunes buy your song you'll get about $65.

capitalism = grand scale corporate plunderer externality ripoff masterminds on a large scale!   :'(
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: grimniggzy on July 09, 2012, 09:32:20 AM
spend money on music? NOPE
Title: Re: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 09, 2012, 10:31:19 AM
I buy from bands direct, only.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: Pundan on July 09, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: moose23 on July 09, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Pundan on July 09, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
I can also recommend you guys Grooveshark, in my opinion there's more stuff on Grooveshark that falls into my liking. Only downside to Grooveshark is that it doesn't have a iPhone/iPod/iPad app. Apple has rejected the app.


Pretty sure Grooveshark pays zero royalties to anyone.
There's some kind of royalty system there, I put my music on there but haven't filled in the royalties thing. I just like it because you can find much stuff there. It's not like Spotify let's me listen to Karp without commercials for free!
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: sleestak on July 09, 2012, 11:34:04 AM
Quote from: Pundan on July 09, 2012, 12:41:28 AMI can also recommend you guys Grooveshark, in my opinion there's more stuff on Grooveshark that falls into my liking. Only downside to Grooveshark is that it doesn't have a iPhone/iPod/iPad app. Apple has rejected the app.

They released a jailbreak app that you can find in the Cydia store.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: RAGER on July 09, 2012, 11:56:25 AM
Been using Spotify for about a year now.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: moose23 on July 09, 2012, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: Pundan on July 09, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Quote from: moose23 on July 09, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Pundan on July 09, 2012, 12:41:28 AM
I can also recommend you guys Grooveshark, in my opinion there's more stuff on Grooveshark that falls into my liking. Only downside to Grooveshark is that it doesn't have a iPhone/iPod/iPad app. Apple has rejected the app.


Pretty sure Grooveshark pays zero royalties to anyone.
There's some kind of royalty system there, I put my music on there but haven't filled in the royalties thing. I just like it because you can find much stuff there. It's not like Spotify let's me listen to Karp without commercials for free!

Cool I'll stand corrected. Also listening to Karp is extremely important.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: rayinreverse on July 09, 2012, 06:09:37 PM
Im pretty sure we have gotten paid from Spotify.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: Pissy on July 09, 2012, 09:29:43 PM
interesting article here about the royalties system.

http://www.spotidj.com/spotifyroyalties.htm

I'm pretty sure our music is on there somewhere, and we never did anything to get it on there, aside from put our CD's available on CDBaby -- which is really all it ever takes.  That would mean that our royalties go to CDBaby, who then pays ASCAP who then promptly distributes it to Madonna and Aerosmith.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: Pissy on July 09, 2012, 10:04:52 PM
heh.

(http://www.spotidj.com/images/onlineindiemusic.png)

Dammit, it got re-sized.  Basically that graph shows that you need to get 250,000 streams in a month in order to make minimum wage off of Spotify.

PROTIP: Right-click/View Image for blown-up. - Jake
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: moose23 on July 10, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
If you're relying on one streaming service for your source of income you're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: Pissy on July 10, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
Quote from: moose23 on July 10, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
If you're relying on music for your source of income you're doing it wrong.

I feex for you.

;D
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: moose23 on July 10, 2012, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: Pissy on July 10, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
Quote from: moose23 on July 10, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
If you're relying on music for your source of income you're doing it wrong.

I feex for you.

;D

Touché my friend.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: clockwork green on July 10, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
It's just a little sad that with all of the bullshit careers that pay just fine out there music is far from being remotely viable for just about everyone.  It doesn't change my interest in making music but still, it would be nice to break even once in awhile.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: fallen on July 10, 2012, 04:27:32 PM
That infographic makes it super clear... and that monthly wage level is brutal. There is no way anyone is going to get by on that small a wage either unless it's a full band living in an old house somewhere in the burbs.

Another way to think of it is what does $1000 a month go towards on a bands ongoing costs in a bigger city where a lot of support shows are available. $500 a month for a lockout jam space, insurance, van payments and insurance, strings, cords, sticks, heads, posters, website.

But how can it ever change. Everyone steals music even though it's just as easy to buy it. People say they buy merch but some bands don't tour so they're fucked. The only way the major labels stay in business is that they usually get the music for free in exchange for loans.

The way things have gone downhill in the last 30 years is crazy. Tony Iommi is a multi-millionare living in a huge mansion and in 10 years Matt Pike will still be working a part-time job on the side to pay his rent. It's fucked.
Title: Re: Spotify is super awesome for FREE DOOM music! Doom on! \m/
Post by: mawso on July 11, 2012, 02:41:19 AM
i like checking out releases i don't have on spotify, tho it is a bit unnerving to get halfway through an album full of badass rock jams and suddenly justin bieber comes on