(old man curmudgeon sounding on purpose) :P
If they made a solid state amp that sounded good to me, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Because, at the end of the day, I don't really care how something sounds good, just that is does.
Jimmy Page's Tele/Supro tone is not good on those first couple of albums. Listening to How The West Was Won, with his Les Paul and Marshalls will change your mind if you disagree. (I will admit that it may have something to do with velvet dragon suits and wizard pants.)
A lot of super-downtuned music gets boring for me quickly. It seem like there's a lack of a solid melody in most of it. But for bands able to combine the two, I'm a fan for life.
Unless you're Jimi Hendix, I'd prefer you not step on that wah pedal.
Your turn, amigos.
Don't give me a fucking flyer to come see your band! I already have enough shit to throw away, TELL me about the show, and I'll remember if I want to go.
Yeah, I DO use all of the pedals on my pedalboard.
"Have you ever heard of Sleep?" -while I'm wearing a Sleep shirt.-
No, you can't use my rig because you didn't feel like loading in your equipment like I did.
Scooped mids = fuck off, Unless you're in Sloth.
BURZUM IS ONE PERSON. WHAT THE ~ACTUAL~ FUCK?
Putting .....s in your reply email to me. what the fuck are you alluding to.
Asking about making a super cheap amp... and bitching about the lack of me doing it
Fender Strats..just dont dig them
very much dislike strats. but love tele's.
Hey...... Nick, I was just thinking about my cheap amp............................................................................................
Quote from: apekillman on March 17, 2012, 11:02:31 PM
very much dislike strats. but love tele's.
you are the fuckin man. I love teles!
just dreaming of a black korina tele with p90s
like this
http://www.warmoth.com/Showcase/images/bodies/large/T2808A.jpg
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 17, 2012, 11:03:42 PM
Hey...... Nick, I was just thinking about my cheap amp............................................................................................
cheap is relative, 1500 hand wired amps are cheap but I dont mind trying to find a solution for a friend
I've got 47 dollars and a frozen turkey. ;D ;D ;D
I keep watching that Curse the Son video with his amps, and drooling. :D
Yeah, that's retarded. Your pricing is fine, Nick. I had an amp built and I couldn't see it being profitable at a cheaper price point.
I've had it with CL musicians wanted ads. Why does everyone want to start a cover band? I saw an ad today for one based on flogging molly ???
http://tallahassee.craigslist.org/muc/2907905851.html (http://tallahassee.craigslist.org/muc/2907905851.html)
So, yeah... this is my town's musician ads...
:D Yikes.
There was totally a chick around here that was into COC and similar "groove" metal, plus doom and black metal. I was stoked when I saw that but she was only looking for other females. oh well.
Love Strats, can't feel a Tele.
Don't get The Melvins, Don't get Tool.
FuManchu's "Start the Machine" rocked. HARD.
Playing in a band that attracts chicks is o.k.
Scene beards are icky.
Don't like Zeppelin AC-DC or Kiss.
Love P bass's.
Hate the look of Tele's.
Own a LP studio and am fine with it.
I LOVE strats, and teles. I can get major heavy tones out of both, all day.
I'd like to build a '72 deluxe-esque tele w/ p90's down the road.
HAHAHAHAHA that same guy posted in my local CL just now as well. What a clown.
...oh and, I don't even like Les Pauls.
tele was my first guitar but id love to make a guitar someday so its a good place to start
thinking 3 p90s, medium/lower gain versions
Quote from: The Riffer on March 17, 2012, 11:43:37 PM
Love Strats, can't feel a Tele.
Don't get The Melvins, Don't get Tool.
FuManchu's "Start the Machine" rocked. HARD.
Playing in a band that attracts chicks is o.k.
Scene beards are icky.
what is a scene beard?
Ask RealJake. :D
Matt Pike's live tone is horrible
Pentagram is incredibly overrated
I like Goatwhore much more than Acid Bath
I'm not too good at this shit... I'll always go see High On Fire, Pentagram have a handful of genre-defining classics, and Acid Bath was awesome !
Goatwhore fucking sucks
Acid Bath is overrated but great
Wino's vocals don't do it for me
It ain't CoC without Pep, fucking fight me!
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 02:30:48 AM
Goatwhore fucking sucks
Acid Bath is overrated but great
Wino's vocals don't do it for me
It ain't CoC without Pep, fucking fight me!
CoC was CoC before you where born or Pepper was in the band. ;D
Deliverance/Wiseblood > all CoC output.
;D ;D
Blasphemy, okay I'll bite but very few here are going to like what I'm chewing.
When "doom" isn't short for doom metal it means next to nothing to me.
Stoner rock, sludge, and doom metal are not generally anymore interchangeable as genre terms than death metal, black metal, and thrash metal are.
If someone referred to all death, black, and thrash bands simply as "death" nobody who knows anything about these genres wouldn't be annoyed but yet just about anything heavy and not fast and/or at all Sabbathy is now simply "doom".
Yes, some bands are more or less hybrids or are hard to classify or have songs that vary.
(http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/285x214/36406_1.jpg)
Quote from: Jake on March 17, 2012, 09:47:32 PM
If they made a solid state amp that sounded good to me, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Because, at the end of the day, I don't really care how something sounds good, just that is does.
I agree completely. Same for digital vs analog.
Quote from: neighbor664 on March 18, 2012, 02:41:03 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 02:30:48 AM
Goatwhore fucking sucks
Acid Bath is overrated but great
Wino's vocals don't do it for me
It ain't CoC without Pep, fucking fight me!
CoC was CoC before you where born or Pepper was in the band. ;D
I agree with Sunn0)) on this. Pep did a lot for COC. But I still think his lyrics are dumb.
I'm doublewide ??? What the hell was he talking about? And for that matter, what's a goodbye window? :D
Past regrets and future fears turn a boy into a man sooner than planned, all the same, the boy remained, even know he can't fly with these heavy chains...
I get them. hahaha, That song and Born Again for the Last time are the best on the album.
I like newer QOTSA... Them Crooked Vultures and Eagles of Death Metal even.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 01:48:16 AM
Ask RealJake. :D
Scene beard v.2 is about 4 months deep right now. Whisker Wars here we come.
It = On = Voltron.
1. The Misfits are terrible and not in an endearing too angry to play in tune/time sort of hardcore way but in a
"we care more about our look than our songs" kind of way and I will always hate them for that.
2. The Ramones are terrible but at least when they sang about sniffing glue they were white trash and literal enough to actually be singing about sniffing glue.
3. I really wish digital amps would actually get good enough to get me to give up my tubes.
4. I give up on Tele's....I'll never stop sounding thin and nasty with them. I've spent a lot of money and time trying to fatten them up but I just can't do it without just giving up and using humbuckers or Tele's and to me, those aren't real Tele's.
5. I wish digital amps would actually stop trying to be tube amps and became their own unique tool.
6. Cookie monster/growled/constantly screamed vocals aren't at all heavy. Anything that is completely devoid of dynamics just gets old fast.
7. I hate hearing people talking about gear and money. Some people have expensive gear because they have better jobs or because they're willing to sacrifice more. Nobody ever said they care more or are better musicians but to that same point, a wall of peavey combos and squirer guitars doesn't mean you're better or a "real" musician. I care about the music you make, not how much you spent or how much you didn't spend. The only musicians I've known that really complained about the cost of gear usually sucked and were bitter and weird.
8. I'm not going to lie, I love rocking a wah pedal and can waste hours doing it. I'm usually too ashamed to really do it live though.
1. I don't get a lot of hardcore punk. It's hard to listen to bands like Black Flag. That includes a lot of "My War".
2. I like Marshalls. A lot. I've built a Metroamp 1987 copy.
3. I like blackface Fenders too. Best amp I probably ever owned was a Pro Reverb.
4. I own Stevie Ray Vaughan AND John Mayer albums.
5. When I'm not playing "Caught in the Crossfire" on my Strat through my Tube Screamer into said blackface Fenders, I play a hollowbody Epiphone.
6. I'm so over black. I'm going to recover all my amps and paint all my guitars white.
How is it even possible to John Mayer and not come to the conclusion that it is the most god awful shit to ever exist? Whether it's his bland mini-van, white "sneakers", college girl blues-pop or his lifeless elevator jazz it's all unquestionably very, very bad.
1. Never been a fan of Dio, especially his lyrics.
2. With the exception of his work with St Vitus, I find Wino's work boring (even though I met him and talked to him a while - great guy).
3. I liked Karma to Burn with vocals.
4. Instrumental bands bore me.
I LOVE Brussels Sprouts.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 03:20:09 AM
Past regrets and future fears turn a boy into a man sooner than planned, all the same, the boy remained, even know he can't fly with these heavy chains...
I get them. hahaha, That song and Born Again for the Last time are the best on the album.
Yeah i generally get whats he's hinting at but there's still times where the lyrics are dumb. Other times, he nails it. I still can't listen to stare too long without tearing up like a bitch. something tied to the 1st time I heard it back in '03 makes it super poignant. I hope they do another album with pep.
I can't get into priest, maiden, motorhead. There are so many classic groups that defined heavy that I just can't dig. Same with the melvins (still respected highly in my book), black flag, early punk/hardcore. At least there's always Sabbath, Bathory, and the Frost.
I know a lot of people harp on this subject but I'm deeply saddened by the influx of hipsters into heavy music. they just seem to be everywhere.
Quote from: deaner33 on March 18, 2012, 09:12:14 AM
1. Never been a fan of Dio, especially his lyrics.
2. With the exception of his work with St Vitus, I find Wino's work boring (even though I met him and talked to him a while - great guy).
3. I liked Karma to Burn with vocals.
4. Instrumental bands bore me.
GET THE FUCK OUT.jpg
How the FUCK can you not like DIO?
Quote from: clockwork green on March 18, 2012, 05:30:10 AM
4. I give up on Tele's....I'll never stop sounding thin and nasty with them. I've spent a lot of money and time trying to fatten them up but I just can't do it without just giving up and using humbuckers or Tele's and to me, those aren't real Tele's.
1:50 would like a word with you
2:02 would also like a word with you.
If you guys can't make teles sound good, it's you, not the guitar... :D
Señor))),
I have a sneaking suspicion that one could plug a handful of cotton candy into those amplifiers and the end result would that same doom-pacolypse earthquake tone.
Quote from: Jake on March 18, 2012, 12:12:12 PM
Señor))),
I have a sneaking suspicion that one could plug a handful of cotton candy into those amplifiers and the end result would that same doom-pacolypse earthquake tone.
I'm buying the Hello Kitty strat.
You should definitely do that. Then you must name your band "Hola Gato."
i dont have a fucking clue what im doing.
pffft, like that is going to stop me......
Rainbow wasn't that great.
1. Get off the wah pedal already
2. Les Pauls are all there is. Everything else is secondary
3. P90's are nothing
4. Peavey is not Marshall and never will
5. Kyuss blew and blows
6. Why cover up that great vintage tube amp with all those pedals. Just get a Crate.
7. When you do a gear demo on youtube get somebody who can actually play
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 18, 2012, 01:06:23 PM
Rainbow wasn't that great.
Yes they were. It was Elf that wasn't that great ;D
Quote from: RAGER on March 18, 2012, 01:09:28 PM
1. Get off the wah pedal already
2. Les Pauls are all there is. Everything else is secondary
3. P90's are nothing
4. Peavey is not Marshall and never will
5. Kyuss blew and blows
6. Why cover up that great vintage tube amp with all those pedals. Just get a Crate.
7. When you do a gear demo on youtube get somebody who can actually play
'
haha, you should have 10
(http://nickgrantham.com/wp-content/uploads/Ten-Commandments1.jpg)
3 more then ;D
8. Just because you have a band doesn't mean you should play out.
9. Black Flag sucked but had a cool logo
10. Most of the doom/stoner shit sounds the same but Yob in fact does rule.
Quote from: bitter on March 18, 2012, 03:05:54 AM
Quote from: neighbor664 on March 18, 2012, 02:41:03 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 02:30:48 AM
Goatwhore fucking sucks
Acid Bath is overrated but great
Wino's vocals don't do it for me
It ain't CoC without Pep, fucking fight me!
CoC was CoC before you where born or Pepper was in the band. ;D
I agree with Sunn0)) on this. Pep did a lot for COC. But I still think his lyrics are dumb.
I'm doublewide ??? What the hell was he talking about? And for that matter, what's a goodbye window? :D
I never stated that one was better than the other. Just that CoC was already known and highly regarded before Pepper. The kids at my high school where into them long before Keenen took over.
I like both. I regard them as two different bands. The changes where too drastic to really rate them in a linear fashion. Like Small Faces vs. The Faces.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
Quote from: clockwork green on March 18, 2012, 05:30:10 AM
4. I give up on Tele's....I'll never stop sounding thin and nasty with them. I've spent a lot of money and time trying to fatten them up but I just can't do it without just giving up and using humbuckers or Tele's and to me, those aren't real Tele's.
1:50 would like a word with you
2:02 would also like a word with you.
If you guys can't make teles sound good, it's you, not the guitar... :D
Maybe it sounded better in person ;)
One more to add. I like old Earth a lot more than the newer stuff. If you just put all the riffs and melody lines from one of the newer albums all together you'd get a great song but to separate them all out just drags. I can't just turn my brain off like I can when listening to drone so it's mental torture. It's listening to someone with a horrible stuttering problem. At first it's okay and a bit novel but afterwards I'm just like "speed the fuck up and get to the next part.!"
Peavey > Marshall
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Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 02:46:55 PM
Peavey > Marshall
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Okay, first "Goatwhore fucking sucks", then Cavity gets dissed, and now THIS??
I'M TELLING MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!11 ;D
I cannot listen to a whole "stoner rock" album w/o nodding off. If you're "whiskey-soaked, hard-drivin' Skynyrd-meets-Sabbath-at-a-biker-bar!!" and using riffs that were already torn back by 1972, it's gonna put me to sleep.
I VASTLY prefer Soilent Green over Eyehategod
Des Kensel probably would benefit from smaller drums
Long "ethereal" hypnotic intros are largely bullshit, get to the point !!
Movie samples in songs: Just stop, it was barely tolerable when Buzzoven overdid it
While I'm blasphemin', the "good" Buzzoven can fit onto one full-length, maybe even just an EP
Quote from: Metal and Beer on March 18, 2012, 03:15:55 PM
While I'm blasphemin', the "good" Buzzoven can fit onto one full-length, maybe even just an EP
My knee jerk reaction was to tell you how wrong you are, good sir. But after a deep breath I will concede that you may be right. However, IMO, that would be one mighty fucking facemelter of an album.
Lololol goatwhore was the most boring show Ive ever seen. Ever. Ive seen them four times by accident, and they sucked worse each time.
Fuck 'em!
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I haven't liked a High on Fire album since Surrounded by Thieves. The over drumming just kills it for me, they should bury it more in the mix, or play something with some groove once in a while. I still buy every one though, and go see 'em when they come close. I reckon they are better live than on cd.
Quote from: fuzzfarmer on March 18, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
I haven't liked a High on Fire album since Surrounded by Thieves.
That's the troof right there. How long have I been saying this??? :)
Of bands spawned from Sleep:
Om >>>>>>> HoF.
Blasphemy.
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p90s are everything
:D
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 06:56:24 PM
Of bands spawned from Sleep:
Om >>>>>>> HoF.
Blasphemy.
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this, all day err day. first 2 records are some of my fav jams
I like every High on Fire song with the exception of Razor Hoof, but even then the bridge nearly gives it a pass. And Om looks better on paper than it sounds on record.
Quote from: clockwork green on March 18, 2012, 05:30:10 AM6. Cookie monster/growled/constantly screamed vocals aren't at all heavy. Anything that is completely devoid of dynamics just gets old fast.
This applies to way more than just vocals.
Quote from: Metal and Beer on March 18, 2012, 03:15:55 PMMovie samples in songs: Just stop, it was barely tolerable when Buzzoven overdid it
Hear hear. When done live, I like to yell "I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT MOVIEEEEE! YOU GUYS, WHAT MOVIE IS THAT FROM? IS IT A GOOD ONE?"
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 18, 2012, 06:56:24 PM
Of bands spawned from Sleep:
Om >>>>>>> HoF.
Blasphemy.
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Damn, this thread was made for me. ;D
- Over genrification is stupid, you really want to sound like that ALL the time?
- I still prefer the sound of my $150 Behringer modeller to all the bass tube amp heads in the world.
- Any project featuring any person who was once in Pantyra sucks.
- HoF were good, for one EP.
- E.Wiz are not now, and never have been, the heaviest band of all time.
- If you include gear references in your musicians wanted ad, you are a dick.
- I don't need to play out, an audience is not a necessary part of my musical experience.
I think that's enough to be going on with...
Any project featuring any person who was once in Pantyra sucks. :D
eh? ???
Wot's a "Pantyra"?
I never liked "stoner rock". none of it. not a single band.
Rebreather!
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Sunn amps suck.
love gibsons hate epiphones
might only like flatwound strings
Quote from: Orthodox Caveman on March 19, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
Sunn amps suck.
don't be mad that you can't get them over there... I understand you're jealous... :D
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 19, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: Orthodox Caveman on March 19, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
Sunn amps suck.
don't be mad that you can't get them over there... I understand you're jealous... :D
What makes you think you can't get them over here? (I love Sunn.)
The whole Om thing being better than High on Fire isn't all that blasphemous because Al Cisneros is a whole lot better at music.
I don't like other people's music tastes even if they're in-line with mine. Fucking hate talking about other people's music in a circle jerking manner. Even talking in a scholarly manner about music tends to piss me off. Music sucks, plain and simple. Mainly because people make it, and we all know people suck.
If you can't make the cheapest of gear sound good then you probably shouldn't be making music.
Using picks is for the weak.
And some other stuff that's really blasphemous and apparently offensive that I can't think of right now. :P
Quote from: Orthodox Caveman on March 19, 2012, 07:14:48 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 19, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: Orthodox Caveman on March 19, 2012, 06:39:11 PM
Sunn amps suck.
don't be mad that you can't get them over there... I understand you're jealous... :D
What makes you think you can't get them over here? (I love Sunn.)
LIAR <~~~ in dutch
Hey, Hal, what happened to you? I noticed your FB posts sayin' you were all laid up?
Sunn are kool period.
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 19, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
Sunn are kool period.
I'm going to start editing your posts. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 19, 2012, 07:17:02 PM
Hey, Hal, what happened to you? I noticed your FB posts sayin' you were all laid up?
Kidney stone. Snuck up on me and decided it wanted to steal two weeks from me. Had a stent taken out today, which was the most uncomfortable thing that has ever happened to me. At least now I finally feel better. Shit can get back to normal.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 19, 2012, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 19, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
Sunn are kool period.
I'm going to start editing your posts. ;D ;D ;D
doin your best to get a dunwich i see
hahahahaha trolled softly :D
customer wants to replace their Sovtek badge with this, which I made for him
(http://acapella.harmony-central.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=343898&d=1332205507)
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 19, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
customer wants to replace their Sovtek badge with this, which I made for him
(http://acapella.harmony-central.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=343898&d=1332205507)
http://brokershandsontheirfacesblog.tumblr.com/ (http://brokershandsontheirfacesblog.tumblr.com/)
You don't need a bass player in your band.
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 19, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
customer wants to replace their Sovtek badge with this, which I made for him
(http://acapella.harmony-central.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=343898&d=1332205507)
Different strokes...a bit tacky for my tastes. Maybe living and growing up in the bay area has me tired of pot-puns.
Quote from: clockwork green on March 20, 2012, 02:42:37 AM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 19, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
customer wants to replace their Sovtek badge with this, which I made for him
(http://acapella.harmony-central.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=343898&d=1332205507)
Different strokes...a bit tacky for my tastes. Maybe living and growing up in the bay area has me tired of pot-puns.
not my style either but the customer requested it
i dont smoke or drink so that kind of humor doesnt usually appeal but i try to work with customers on whatever they want
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 20, 2012, 01:11:49 AM
You don't need a bass player in your band.
I don't need a band in my bassplayer. ;D
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/420967_2739227966782_1439903504_32010094_1662659791_n.jpg)
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 20, 2012, 01:11:49 AM
You don't need a bass player in your band.
Not bad. what is that?
My rig set up for playing in a band without a bassist.
Model T - 4x12
Peavey - 8x10
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'nother one
- I use my ears, rather than a badge, or an online opinion, when selecting gear (this one is worse than saying solid-state is OK
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 21, 2012, 12:25:01 PM
My rig set up for playing in a band without a bassist.
Model T - 4x12
Peavey - 8x10
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Impressive. I thought I was hearing octave down sounds for the "bass" parts through some sort of gizmo.
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 21, 2012, 10:42:38 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 21, 2012, 12:25:01 PM
My rig set up for playing in a band without a bassist.
Model T - 4x12
Peavey - 8x10
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Impressive. I thought I was hearing octave down sounds for the "bass" parts through some sort of gizmo.
Oh it is, lol, EHX POG. In action. We jammed this tune once before recording it... excuse the fuckups.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 22, 2012, 02:00:47 AM
Oh it is, lol, EHX POG. In action. We jammed this tune once before recording it... excuse the fuckups.
That's one thick head of hair you've got sir. I dig the song. Couldn't hear the POG as much in that one, how does it handle power chords?
Oh you could hear it, they're just really well blended. I was playing full chords there. Its polyphonic, never glitches. Tracks perfect. I play the riff once with just guitar. When the drums come in, everything comes in.
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nice barefoot, white trash cutoff situation you got going on there.
Quote from: bitter on March 22, 2012, 12:52:29 PM
nice barefoot, white trash cutoff situation you got going on there.
(http://rclol.com/img/redneck-randal-and-i-told-that-teaching-lady-that-the-only-three-letters-i-need-to-know-are-u-s-and-a.jpg)
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 22, 2012, 10:30:02 AM
Oh you could hear it, they're just really well blended. I was playing full chords there. Its polyphonic, never glitches. Tracks perfect. I play the riff once with just guitar. When the drums come in, everything comes in.
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Ah. I'll listen again. Pretty neat that it tracks perfect, good to know. Got a 3 piece going now but if I ever do the duo thing in the future again I'll get a POG.
It makes a huge difference.
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
^ I see your point, but you have to admit there is a difference playing in front of tube amp vs. solid state.
On a similar note...
Alot of cats want the most tweakability possible from pedals and amps. Is it blasphemous to say that less controls is usually better? Added together the tone controls on your guitar , 3 or 4 tone controls on pedals, tone controls on your amp, start to work against each other. Maybe I just prefer simplicity over options..IDK..get off my lawn.
Mark, build me a Pharaoh with no knobs.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 22, 2012, 03:07:22 PM
Mark, build me a Pharaoh with no knobs.
(http://acapella.harmony-central.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=343312&d=1330629275)
Quote from: The Riffer on March 22, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
^ I see your point, but you have to admit there is a difference playing in front of tube amp vs. solid state.
Hey this is the
blasphemy thread, remember. I'm still laughing ;D
I stand by not liking Les Pauls. Yet, to further my LP blasphemin', I like the maple fretboard customs.
(http://cdn1.gbase.com/usercontent/gear/2775068/p1_ui2xc2vfw_so.jpg)
Good lookin' axe for a fake.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 22, 2012, 03:07:22 PM
Mark, build me a Pharaoh with no knobs.
How about no tonestack, gain dimed and one volume knob. Stompswitch Thats what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
Quote from: RacerX on March 22, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
I've found it weird to see people buying Matamps for 2500 dollars, and using Big Muffs too. You can run a Big Muff in front of any amp. If you're going to use a Matamp, let it sound like a Matamp. Or a Sunn Model T, or whatever.
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 22, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
I've found it weird to see people buying Matamps for 2500 dollars, and using Big Muffs too. You can run a Big Muff in front of any amp. If you're going to use a Matamp, let it sound like a Matamp. Or a Sunn Model T, or whatever.
a while ago I would have said the same thing, fuck pedals but after playing pedals in front of a wide variety of amps, the pedal itself doesnt necessarily kill the character of the amp. If the amp you play doesnt get the gain level you want, there isnt much else you can do it get more saturation other than run a pedal
I rely more on the sound of my RAT than any of my amps. :o
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 22, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
I've found it weird to see people buying Matamps for 2500 dollars, and using Big Muffs too. You can run a Big Muff in front of any amp. If you're going to use a Matamp, let it sound like a Matamp. Or a Sunn Model T, or whatever.
a while ago I would have said the same thing, fuck pedals but after playing pedals in front of a wide variety of amps, the pedal itself doesnt necessarily kill the character of the amp. If the amp you play doesnt get the gain level you want, there isnt much else you can do it get more saturation other than run a pedal
True. But why buy a 2500 dollar amp that doesn't do everything you want it to do? Why not buy the the right amp, or buy a less expensive amp and then you can use Big Muffs to muddy up the sound?*
*flame bait
Like, don't tow your trailer with a Z-28. Don't put mag wheels and a spoiler on your Pacer. Right tool for the job, etc.
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 22, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
I've found it weird to see people buying Matamps for 2500 dollars, and using Big Muffs too. You can run a Big Muff in front of any amp. If you're going to use a Matamp, let it sound like a Matamp. Or a Sunn Model T, or whatever.
a while ago I would have said the same thing, fuck pedals but after playing pedals in front of a wide variety of amps, the pedal itself doesnt necessarily kill the character of the amp. If the amp you play doesnt get the gain level you want, there isnt much else you can do it get more saturation other than run a pedal
True. But why buy a 2500 dollar amp that doesn't do everything you want it to do? Why not buy the the right amp, or buy a less expensive amp and then you can use Big Muffs to muddy up the sound?*
*flame bait
Like, don't tow your trailer with a Z-28. Don't put mag wheels and a spoiler on your Pacer. Right tool for the job, etc.
I think the reason is that a Matamp GT120 with a meathead sounds a bunch different than a Crate Blue Voodoo with a meathead. Anyone can bury the amp in an awful pedal mess but I dont think you should confuse someone who buries the amp sound with many pedals/FX as compared to someone who compliments the character of an amp with a pedal.
I understand the cost sentiment, why doesnt a 2k+ amp give you the sound already but thats not how it shakes down in reality. I have seen 300 dollar Ampeg V4 destroy 3k newly made Marshalls.
I wants a $300 V4
Quote from: grimniggzy on March 22, 2012, 04:48:43 PM
I wants a $300 V4
a little while ago u could get them that cheap but price gouging has made them closer to 500-600. Still not a bad vintage amp for that cost. they are clean and loud, awesome EQ. Rougher to retube tho.
Hey wait a minute. Pacers did come with a 304 V-8
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: The Riffer on March 22, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
^ I see your point, but you have to admit there is a difference playing in front of tube amp vs. solid state.
Hey this is the blasphemy thread, remember. I'm still laughing ;D
...and still laughing ;D
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 22, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
I've found it weird to see people buying Matamps for 2500 dollars, and using Big Muffs too. You can run a Big Muff in front of any amp. If you're going to use a Matamp, let it sound like a Matamp. Or a Sunn Model T, or whatever.
a while ago I would have said the same thing, fuck pedals but after playing pedals in front of a wide variety of amps, the pedal itself doesnt necessarily kill the character of the amp. If the amp you play doesnt get the gain level you want, there isnt much else you can do it get more saturation other than run a pedal
True. But why buy a 2500 dollar amp that doesn't do everything you want it to do? Why not buy the the right amp, or buy a less expensive amp and then you can use Big Muffs to muddy up the sound?*
*flame bait
Like, don't tow your trailer with a Z-28. Don't put mag wheels and a spoiler on your Pacer. Right tool for the job, etc.
I think the reason is that a Matamp GT120 with a meathead sounds a bunch different than a Crate Blue Voodoo with a meathead. Anyone can bury the amp in an awful pedal mess but I dont think you should confuse someone who buries the amp sound with many pedals/FX as compared to someone who compliments the character of an amp with a pedal.
I understand the cost sentiment, why doesnt a 2k+ amp give you the sound already but thats not how it shakes down in reality. I have seen 300 dollar Ampeg V4 destroy 3k newly made Marshalls.
Now that is some true blasphemy for this board where quality is inversely proportional to cost.
Some more blasphemy for this board...I like expensive cables. I like nice speaker cables, patch cables and leads. I even think I hear a bit of a difference.
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 22, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
I've found it weird to see people buying Matamps for 2500 dollars, and using Big Muffs too. You can run a Big Muff in front of any amp. If you're going to use a Matamp, let it sound like a Matamp. Or a Sunn Model T, or whatever.
a while ago I would have said the same thing, fuck pedals but after playing pedals in front of a wide variety of amps, the pedal itself doesnt necessarily kill the character of the amp. If the amp you play doesnt get the gain level you want, there isnt much else you can do it get more saturation other than run a pedal
True. But why buy a 2500 dollar amp that doesn't do everything you want it to do? Why not buy the the right amp, or buy a less expensive amp and then you can use Big Muffs to muddy up the sound?*
*flame bait
Like, don't tow your trailer with a Z-28. Don't put mag wheels and a spoiler on your Pacer. Right tool for the job, etc.
I think the reason is that a Matamp GT120 with a meathead sounds a bunch different than a Crate Blue Voodoo with a meathead. Anyone can bury the amp in an awful pedal mess but I dont think you should confuse someone who buries the amp sound with many pedals/FX as compared to someone who compliments the character of an amp with a pedal.
I understand the cost sentiment, why doesnt a 2k+ amp give you the sound already but thats not how it shakes down in reality. I have seen 300 dollar Ampeg V4 destroy 3k newly made Marshalls.
Also Matamp are supposed to be clean and transparent, with the exception of some of the Dave Green era dirt monsters, so you have to put dirt in to get dirt out.
Quote from: clockwork green on March 22, 2012, 06:40:14 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 22, 2012, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on March 22, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 22, 2012, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 22, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
'nother one :)
- I laught at people who spend $500 or more on a tube amp, and then put a stompbox with transistors in front of it ;D
Really? I don't get it. How/why is that funny?
I've found it weird to see people buying Matamps for 2500 dollars, and using Big Muffs too. You can run a Big Muff in front of any amp. If you're going to use a Matamp, let it sound like a Matamp. Or a Sunn Model T, or whatever.
a while ago I would have said the same thing, fuck pedals but after playing pedals in front of a wide variety of amps, the pedal itself doesnt necessarily kill the character of the amp. If the amp you play doesnt get the gain level you want, there isnt much else you can do it get more saturation other than run a pedal
True. But why buy a 2500 dollar amp that doesn't do everything you want it to do? Why not buy the the right amp, or buy a less expensive amp and then you can use Big Muffs to muddy up the sound?*
*flame bait
Like, don't tow your trailer with a Z-28. Don't put mag wheels and a spoiler on your Pacer. Right tool for the job, etc.
I think the reason is that a Matamp GT120 with a meathead sounds a bunch different than a Crate Blue Voodoo with a meathead. Anyone can bury the amp in an awful pedal mess but I dont think you should confuse someone who buries the amp sound with many pedals/FX as compared to someone who compliments the character of an amp with a pedal.
I understand the cost sentiment, why doesnt a 2k+ amp give you the sound already but thats not how it shakes down in reality. I have seen 300 dollar Ampeg V4 destroy 3k newly made Marshalls.
Now that is some true blasphemy for this board where quality is inversely proportional to cost.
Some more blasphemy for this board...I like expensive cables. I like nice speaker cables, patch cables and leads. I even think I hear a bit of a difference.
sometimes that happens, sometimes it does not.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 22, 2012, 03:43:52 PM
Good lookin' axe for a fake.
???
I grabbed the first photo of a black one I saw. Even if that one a fake, they were made.
What is with all of this fighty defensive shit, bud? I never said they weren't made. I was just sayin' it looked good even though I doubt THAT PARTICULAR GUITAR's legitimacy as a real Gibson.
Relax, we're all family here.
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Sigh. Nevermind.
Les Paul using the neck pup + high gain metal tube amp with no pedals can = tones similar to Matamp/Orange
How does that work when Orange and Matamp are low gain?
Is this an implication that Matamps are muddy? Mine aren't but I've never played through a vintage one although I wouldn't call the vintage Orange I've played through muddy. My Mat's are Plexi bright or anything like that but they certainly are clear, especially at high volume which is the only way to play one.
Vintage ones are squeaky clean too, maybe bit compressed if valve rectified ones pushed, but not tried those. Basically the muddy distorted thing is from that numpty bodging 6550 into EL34 amps to sell them as bass amps so they are all fucking up.
QuoteBasically the muddy distorted thing is from that numpty bodging 6550 into EL34 amps to sell them as bass amps so they are all fucking up.
??? ??? ???
Please translate from the British vernacular.
Quote from: RacerX on March 23, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
QuoteBasically the muddy distorted thing is from that numpty bodging 6550 into EL34 amps to sell them as bass amps so they are all fucking up.
??? ??? ???
Please translate from the British vernacular.
J*** W****** is a cunt.
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: RacerX on March 23, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
QuoteBasically the muddy distorted thing is from that numpty bodging 6550 into EL34 amps to sell them as bass amps so they are all fucking up.
??? ??? ???
Please translate from the British vernacular.
Joel Wheeler is a cunt.
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/GREENMAN_8799ca_1706355.gif)
Don't think you'll get a lot of disagreement with that statement around here.
Wouldn't be surprised to find him signed up under some name and send me nonsensical PMs in his distinctive style like he does on various forums
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: RacerX on March 23, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
QuoteBasically the muddy distorted thing is from that numpty bodging 6550 into EL34 amps to sell them as bass amps so they are all fucking up.
??? ??? ???
Please translate from the British vernacular.
J*** W****** is a cunt.
BUTTPUSSY!!!111!!!111!!!
You'll get no argument from me on that one.
He's always been good to me both with amp sales and he even wanted to sign us to 12th Records.
You're alright, Clockwork, but we gotta agree to disagree on this one.
That vato is loco.
Oli, edit his actual name out for me, I don't want that cocksucker here shitting the place up...
I like reissue Model T's.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 23, 2012, 11:25:32 AM
Oli, edit his actual name out for me, I don't want that cocksucker here shitting the place up...
Good point. My quote is fixed.
I've too much respect for John MacNeece to make that kind of statement :)
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 23, 2012, 11:25:32 AM
Oli, edit his actual name out for me, I don't want that cocksucker here shitting the place up...
Done. also wish to note that although associated, John McNeece is a totally sound dude.
Quote from: RacerX on March 23, 2012, 11:18:38 AM
You're alright, Clockwork, but we gotta agree to disagree on this one.
That vato is loco.
I'm not saying he isn't crazy, just that I've actually done repeated business with him and he treated me fine. Most of the people that talk shit about him here haven't and I can see why they're put off by him. The customers that have issues with him exist but it's a smaller pool
I love John. Fantastic dude. He's one of the best techs/builders in the country, hands down.
Paging Benberry Lazer for his recent Mondo experience...
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Back to blasphemy: I wish I could somehow get the same crappy, nasal tone out of my rig that I get playing slide through my little Supro/Smokey amp with the tone on the guitar rolled back.
I think a lot of it is from the 2" plastic driver.
Quote from: clockwork green on March 23, 2012, 09:23:12 AM
Is this an implication that Matamps are muddy? Mine aren't but I've never played through a vintage one although I wouldn't call the vintage Orange I've played through muddy. My Mat's are Plexi bright or anything like that but they certainly are clear, especially at high volume which is the only way to play one.
That's what I'm saying too. They sound great when they are 'clear' and loud.
How's this: "Dirt" can be overrated --- or it can be over-used or used poorly, anyway.
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 22, 2012, 10:06:14 PM
What is with all of this fighty defensive shit, bud? I never said they weren't made. I was just sayin' it looked good even though I doubt THAT PARTICULAR GUITAR's legitimacy as a real Gibson.
Relax, we're all family here.
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IDK where you thought I was being all that stuff. It wasn't intended.
...anyway, BLASPHEMY. STUPID SHIT IS AWESOME.
Oh here's a good one. I did all this with my Boss BR600 recorder and I really, really like the tone. No amp or microphone anywhere. It's all "fake" with my pedal board doing the heavy lifting.
http://psychedelicsexorgan.bandcamp.com/ (http://psychedelicsexorgan.bandcamp.com/)
Quote from: rayinreverse on March 23, 2012, 11:40:25 AM
I like reissue Model T's.
doesnt bother me so much if they just renamed the goddamn amp to something else.
Several of the guitar tracks on my latest RPM album were presets in my 8-track, plugged straight in.
And I left it like that cause it sounded GOOD. Other tracks were my JCM800/V30 4x12. So it's not like I didn't have a good amp and mic laying around.
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
How does that work when Orange and Matamp are low gain?
My Matamp was mid-gain, about like a JCM800 I would guess or a high gain amp with only the gain from one gain knob.
A Les Paul's thickness can cut through the fizz of high gain amps, which can also be run without the gain all the way up.
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 23, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
How does that work when Orange and Matamp are low gain?
My Matamp was mid-gain, about like a JCM800 I would guess or a high gain amp with only the gain from one gain knob.
A Les Paul's thickness can cut through the fizz of high gain amps, which can also be run without the gain all the way up.
I understand you, I always use the neck pickup for large and fuzzy. My 800 does a really pretty thick mush fuzz set up like that. I enjoy it.
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 23, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
How does that work when Orange and Matamp are low gain?
My Matamp was mid-gain, about like a JCM800 I would guess or a high gain amp with only the gain from one gain knob.
A Les Paul's thickness can cut through the fizz of high gain amps, which can also be run without the gain all the way up.
What one was it? I kind of consider the Dave Green era stuff to be atypical, but they are mostly what was shipped out to the States, he wasn't really in the spirit of original Matamp stuff, if you dig that sort of stuff, a mate is selling an Ashdown Peacemaker Custom100 he designed, its built like a Matamp but they are worth fuck all money because everyone thinks they are bass amps.
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 23, 2012, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: rayinreverse on March 23, 2012, 11:40:25 AM
I like reissue Model T's.
doesnt bother me so much if they just renamed the goddamn amp to something else.
This is my argument with it, I actually like the tone they can get, but it's not a Model T, or even a reissue of the Model T, it's something entirely different.
Here's some blasphemy, I got punched pretty hard for this one yesterday, I don't like pure clean tube tone. At all.
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 23, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
How does that work when Orange and Matamp are low gain?
My Matamp was mid-gain, about like a JCM800 I would guess or a high gain amp with only the gain from one gain knob.
A Les Paul's thickness can cut through the fizz of high gain amps, which can also be run without the gain all the way up.
What one was it? I kind of consider the Dave Green era stuff to be atypical, but they are mostly what was shipped out to the States, he wasn't really in the spirit of original Matamp stuff, if you dig that sort of stuff, a mate is selling an Ashdown Peacemaker Custom100 he designed, its built like a Matamp but they are worth fuck all money because everyone thinks they are bass amps.
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/mazeofliquidsmoke/MAT1.jpg)
Great amp but it wasn't worth the money to me so I sold it for a bit less than I paid for it and got into Laneys. To be fair I was trying to get a Paul tone with an SG out of it which is impossible.
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 23, 2012, 06:23:19 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 23, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Foxen on March 23, 2012, 08:54:42 AM
How does that work when Orange and Matamp are low gain?
My Matamp was mid-gain, about like a JCM800 I would guess or a high gain amp with only the gain from one gain knob.
A Les Paul's thickness can cut through the fizz of high gain amps, which can also be run without the gain all the way up.
What one was it? I kind of consider the Dave Green era stuff to be atypical, but they are mostly what was shipped out to the States, he wasn't really in the spirit of original Matamp stuff, if you dig that sort of stuff, a mate is selling an Ashdown Peacemaker Custom100 he designed, its built like a Matamp but they are worth fuck all money because everyone thinks they are bass amps.
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i137/mazeofliquidsmoke/MAT1.jpg)
Great amp but it wasn't worth the money to me so I sold it for a bit less than I paid for it and got into Laneys. To be fair I was trying to get a Paul tone with an SG out of it which is impossible.
that model is much different than the ones oli is referencing. The old GT120s where non master amps with much less controls than this one
Quote from: At_Giza on March 23, 2012, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 23, 2012, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: rayinreverse on March 23, 2012, 11:40:25 AM
I like reissue Model T's.
doesnt bother me so much if they just renamed the goddamn amp to something else.
This is my argument with it, I actually like the tone they can get, but it's not a Model T, or even a reissue of the Model T, it's something entirely different.
Here's some blasphemy, I got punched pretty hard for this one yesterday, I don't like pure clean tube tone. At all.
It's like New York and Chicago pizza. My girlfriend is a New Yorker and refused to try Chicago pizza. I'm from California so I really don't care. I got her to try and actually admit that she can like Chicago, deep dish pizza but she won't call it pizza. Both amps sound good but they have nothing to do with each other.
Quote from: RacerX on March 23, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Back to blasphemy: I wish I could somehow get the same crappy, nasal tone out of my rig that I get playing slide through my little Supro/Smokey amp with the tone on the guitar rolled back.
I think a lot of it is from the 2" plastic driver.
You probably could, if you stick a bright cap somewhere to strangle the tone :)
I've never really understood the difference between the master/non-master Matamps. Oddly, I have a master volume GTL-140 and a non-master Electric (although British built). They each only have one channel, gain and volume. I get master volume on channel switchers but my amps operate the same but the GTL does have more preamp gain.
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 23, 2012, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 23, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Back to blasphemy: I wish I could somehow get the same crappy, nasal tone out of my rig that I get playing slide through my little Supro/Smokey amp with the tone on the guitar rolled back.
I think a lot of it is from the 2" plastic driver.
You probably could, if you stick a bright cap somewhere to strangle the tone :)
I don't think so, man. Squelching the Q only gets it so far. The plastic driver makes it sound like some old blues dude singing with a head fulla cocaine snot.
Hmm. I wonder if I could make a cheap cabinet with a larger plastic driver or a few of the little ones then mic it.
Are you wanting the same sound, only louder, or the same sound from a higher power rig?
The latter should be easy, you'd get a speaker like the original, in a crappy box, and a big load resistor (shunt).
Making the same sound, but louder, might be trickier, I suppose you could get an assload of those 2" drivers and mount them on a piece of plexiglass or something. Or you could try making an analog model, as it were, of the original sound using filters and distortion circuitry.
Quote from: clockwork green on March 23, 2012, 06:27:35 PM
Quote from: At_Giza on March 23, 2012, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on March 23, 2012, 12:52:18 PM
Quote from: rayinreverse on March 23, 2012, 11:40:25 AM
I like reissue Model T's.
doesnt bother me so much if they just renamed the goddamn amp to something else.
This is my argument with it, I actually like the tone they can get, but it's not a Model T, or even a reissue of the Model T, it's something entirely different.
Here's some blasphemy, I got punched pretty hard for this one yesterday, I don't like pure clean tube tone. At all.
It's like New York and Chicago pizza. My girlfriend is a New Yorker and refused to try Chicago pizza. I'm from California so I really don't care. I got her to try and actually admit that she can like Chicago, deep dish pizza but she won't call it pizza. Both amps sound good but they have nothing to do with each other.
Exactly, their only similarity is that they are an amp, like deep dish and thin crust pizza are both pizzas. That's it.
There was a music store that replaced the Sunn logo with a classic Fender logo, and the faceplate logo was removed, as well as all things saying "Sunn" on the back, and they also took off the "model" and replaced it with the Fender logo. They had it marketed as a Fender T on the price tag, it was pretty amusing, despite making sense.
Actually I think I have something you can try, if you can find it, RadioShack made a horn loudspeaker, 8ohm a handful of watts, something like that is pretty ratty and tinny sounding, it may be just what you need, this one is $10, just google paging horn.
(http://www.allelectronics.com/mas_assets/cache/image/2/6/2/6/9766.Jpg) (http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PHS-20/20W-8-OHM-HORN-SPEAKER/1.html)
Quote from: Hemisaurus on March 23, 2012, 07:01:16 PM
Actually I think I have something you can try, if you can find it, RadioShack made a horn loudspeaker, 8ohm a handful of watts, something like that is pretty ratty and tinny sounding, it may be just what you need, this one is $10, just google paging horn.
(http://www.allelectronics.com/mas_assets/cache/image/2/6/2/6/9766.Jpg) (http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PHS-20/20W-8-OHM-HORN-SPEAKER/1.html)
That's an idear, alrighty. For 10 bucks, I cant go wrong!
Sick thought, this one is 40W and square, with screw holes for cabinet mounting you could make a faux 4x12 with four of them.
http://www.google.com/search?q=mg+electronics+hs12sbp&hl=en&safe=off&rls=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=KRRtT4jvJ8WztwfN6MijBg&ved=0CFAQrQQ&biw=980&bih=1192 (http://www.google.com/search?q=mg+electronics+hs12sbp&hl=en&safe=off&rls=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=KRRtT4jvJ8WztwfN6MijBg&ved=0CFAQrQQ&biw=980&bih=1192)