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Title: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: hayseed on February 04, 2012, 06:02:14 PM
The last time i saw Fu Manchu they were using Marshall JCM2000 TSL 100's with 2x1960 cabs. I can recall them using very minimal pedals but they did use something like a fuzz or distortion in front of the amp. Anybody know what kind of pedal FM uses to get that thick milky distortion?  

Its a dumb question but I would like to thicken up my TSL for future endeavors.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: RAGER on February 04, 2012, 06:54:02 PM
i actually don't have the faintest care
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: hayseed on February 04, 2012, 07:19:07 PM
umm...thanks?
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Ayek on February 04, 2012, 07:41:18 PM
(http://www.fu-manchu.com/content/picturesection/equipment/balchgear0101.jpg)

(http://www.fu-manchu.com/content/picturesection/equipment/fupage01superfuzz.jpg)

Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: hayseed on February 04, 2012, 07:51:05 PM
I remembered it being an orange box! I found a couple sites that said it was a Fuzz Face and a couple that said it was an "ordinary Fuzz", whatever that is. Thank you for the answer.

Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Corey Y on February 04, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
They have a section on their website that details all their gear. Plus Bob has a website, playthisriff.com, that has Fu Manchu song lessons and some gear rundowns.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Glitchyghost on February 04, 2012, 08:33:28 PM

For whatever reason, Rager enjoys spending the energy to answer posts with general rudeness and negativity.  I guess that works for him.

However, Fu Manchu's bass player, Brad, makes pedals, and is very accessible.   He would tell you exactly what Fu uses if you asked him.   He makes a version of Superfuzz as well. 

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Creepy-Fingers-Effects/116391141734461

Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: hayseed on February 04, 2012, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: Corey Y on February 04, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
They have a section on their website that details all their gear. Plus Bob has a website, playthisriff.com, that has Fu Manchu song lessons and some gear rundowns.

Bob's website is very cool. Thanks.
I actually just learned about Brad making pedals about 5 minutes ago.. Thanks for the link! I am going to check it out. What company made the Super Fuzz originally? I was thinking it was a Univox but i could be wrong.



Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Glitchyghost on February 04, 2012, 08:51:14 PM

You're correct, it's Univox.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Jake on February 04, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
If I'm not mistaken, a big part of their "signature" fuzz sound that shines through on the early albums came from a Crown fuzz, no?
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: RAGER on February 04, 2012, 10:45:24 PM
Honesty isn't the best approach??  Fuck that.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: mutantcolors on February 04, 2012, 10:56:47 PM
S-ing TFU was the best response. You chose poorly if unless you were out for second best.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: mawso on February 04, 2012, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: RAGER on February 04, 2012, 06:54:02 PM
i actually don't have the faintest care

then why open the thread?
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: VOLVO))) on February 05, 2012, 12:20:09 AM
-facepalm-

Y'all chill out.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Lumpy on February 05, 2012, 12:41:13 AM
Pooping on legitimate threads that you're not even interested in is considered bad form. I've done it. You're better off clicking over to something else.

"In Search Of..." has some of the best sounding fuzz guitar ever recorded IMO.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: RAGER on February 05, 2012, 11:48:56 AM
The people gettin all bent out of shape are new people here until I read Lumpy's post.  Come on Lumpy.  sheesh :-\

So I recommend staying out of General Disc.  You will get hurt.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Mr Neutron on February 05, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
IIRC, the band had a bunch of gear stolen around California Crossing time, supposedly why that album isn't as overly fuzzy as the previous releases.

i could be remembering incorrectly.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: hayseed on February 05, 2012, 01:49:20 PM
This is a forum for gear and the people that play it right? Yeah, i dont go to the GD board because its not really relevant  to discuss how a fart smells or which teen pop star you jack off to. Don't care and highly doubt anyone could "get hurt" from a discussion board. Don't be an elitist, man....Nobody likes it and most importantly, that really hurts a scene. Just saying...

Moving on.......
I couldn't find any info on the Crown Fuzz. I was really surprised by their choice in amp heads. It just seems like the JCM 2000 series is not preferred to play "this" type of music. I am not sure what the deal is with the Peavey Standard head in Scott Hill's gear, I am guessing that he ABY's them to separate cabs. I missed a chance a couple months back to pick up a Dan Armstrong/Ampeg guitar(not see thru). I decided to grab a Blacktop Tele instead(very happy with that purchase btw).

I have been in the market for a fuzz pedal for a while. I think with this little exploration i may have my search narrowed down a bit finally. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: RAGER on February 05, 2012, 01:52:30 PM
some of us are cross trainers.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: moose23 on February 05, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: hayseed on February 05, 2012, 01:49:20 PM
This is a forum for gear and the people that play it right? Yeah, i dont go to the GD board because its not really relevant  to discuss how a fart smells or which teen pop star you jack off to. Don't care and highly doubt anyone could "get hurt" from a discussion board. Don't be an elitist, man....Nobody likes it and most importantly, that really hurts a scene. Just saying...

Moving on.......
I couldn't find any info on the Crown Fuzz. I was really surprised by their choice in amp heads. It just seems like the JCM 2000 series is not preferred to play "this" type of music. I am not sure what the deal is with the Peavey Standard head in Scott Hill's gear, I am guessing that he ABY's them to separate cabs. I missed a chance a couple months back to pick up a Dan Armstrong/Ampeg guitar(not see thru). I decided to grab a Blacktop Tele instead(very happy with that purchase btw).

I have been in the market for a fuzz pedal for a while. I think with this little exploration i may have my search narrowed down a bit finally. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.

The Peavey Standard and Dan Armstrong are in homage to Greg Ginn/Black Flag. Crown Fuzz is very similar to a SuperFuzz and Creepy Fingers Rising fuzz is apparently a clone of the Crown. The TSLs are a recent (2000s) addition but I'm not sure what amps they used before them.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: bitter on February 05, 2012, 03:48:18 PM
I think they were using ampeg (reverb rockets???) prior to the tsl's. I don't recall what came before those though.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: hayseed on February 05, 2012, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: moose23 on February 05, 2012, 03:09:19 PM


The Peavey Standard and Dan Armstrong are in homage to Greg Ginn/Black Flag. Crown Fuzz is very similar to a SuperFuzz and Creepy Fingers Rising fuzz is apparently a clone of the Crown. The TSLs are a recent (2000s) addition but I'm not sure what amps they used before them.

So the Peavey is ABY'd through one of the cabs then?
I don't recall him having the Peavey when i saw them last, but it could have been borrowed equipment or something to that nature.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: The Shocker on February 05, 2012, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: hayseed on February 05, 2012, 01:49:20 PM
This is a forum for gear and the people that play it right? Yeah, i dont go to the GD board because its not really relevant  to discuss how a fart smells or which teen pop star you jack off to. Don't care and highly doubt anyone could "get hurt" from a discussion board. Don't be an elitist, man....Nobody likes it and most importantly, that really hurts a scene. Just saying...

Moving on.......
I couldn't find any info on the Crown Fuzz. I was really surprised by their choice in amp heads. It just seems like the JCM 2000 series is not preferred to play "this" type of music. I am not sure what the deal is with the Peavey Standard head in Scott Hill's gear, I am guessing that he ABY's them to separate cabs. I missed a chance a couple months back to pick up a Dan Armstrong/Ampeg guitar(not see thru). I decided to grab a Blacktop Tele instead(very happy with that purchase btw).

I have been in the market for a fuzz pedal for a while. I think with this little exploration i may have my search narrowed down a bit finally. Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.


Looks like Crowns were rebadges:

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/crown/superfuzz
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Instant Dan on February 06, 2012, 01:49:11 AM
Quote from: moose23 on February 05, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
The TSLs are a recent (2000s) addition but I'm not sure what amps they used before them.

Scott used a Mesa Boogie Mark model on the earlier albums and Eddie Glass used a Master Volume 100 watt Marshall head. I remember reading that Bob Balch used vintage Marshalls in the studio but used the DSL/TSL stuff on the road.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Baltar on February 06, 2012, 06:55:15 PM
Which teen pop star should I jack off to?
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: RacerX on February 06, 2012, 07:26:53 PM
Quote from: Baltar on February 06, 2012, 06:55:15 PM
Which teen pop star should I jack off to?

Justin Beiber.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Baltar on February 07, 2012, 07:23:27 AM
But seriously, I think Eddie Glass used a Green Russian Muff on Daredevil and In Search Of... At least that's the pedal he was using when Nebula first started.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Glitchyghost on February 08, 2012, 01:29:45 AM
Quote from: Jake on February 04, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
If I'm not mistaken, a big part of their "signature" fuzz sound that shines through on the early albums came from a Crown fuzz, no?

The Crown is a rebranded Superfuzz.

Here are some other Superfuzzes, under a different brand.  Look for these on Ebay if you want a good price on a vintage Superfuzz.   I snagged an Apollo superfuzz-wah for about $120 a couple weeks ago.    But, sssssshh, don't tell anyone  :-X



Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: Lumpy on February 08, 2012, 03:16:36 AM
Quote from: koi on February 08, 2012, 01:29:45 AM
Quote from: Jake on February 04, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
If I'm not mistaken, a big part of their "signature" fuzz sound that shines through on the early albums came from a Crown fuzz, no?

The Crown is a rebranded Superfuzz.

Here are some other Superfuzzes, under a different brand.  Look for these on Ebay if you want a good price on a vintage Superfuzz.   I snagged an Apollo superfuzz-wah for about $120 a couple weeks ago.    But, sssssshh, don't tell anyone  :-X


  • Apollo no. 846 Deluxe Fuzz Tone Expander
    Avora FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Companion FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Crown Super Fuzz
    Hohner MF-50 Master Fuzz Control
    Honey Baby Crying
    J.H. Experience FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Jax FY-6 Fuzz Master
    LRE Super-Fuzz
    Mana FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Mayfair Model No. 9540 Super Fuzz
    Mica-Tone Super Fuzz
    Oscar FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Rands FY-6 Fuzz
    Shaftesbury Duo Fuzz
    Teisco TF-1 Fuzz
    Tempo TR-6 Fuzz




Dude, awesome.
Title: Re: Fu Manchu gear question????
Post by: hayseed on February 08, 2012, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: koi on February 08, 2012, 01:29:45 AM
Quote from: Jake on February 04, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
If I'm not mistaken, a big part of their "signature" fuzz sound that shines through on the early albums came from a Crown fuzz, no?

The Crown is a rebranded Superfuzz.

Here are some other Superfuzzes, under a different brand.  Look for these on Ebay if you want a good price on a vintage Superfuzz.   I snagged an Apollo superfuzz-wah for about $120 a couple weeks ago.    But, sssssshh, don't tell anyone  :-X


  • Apollo no. 846 Deluxe Fuzz Tone Expander
    Avora FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Companion FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Crown Super Fuzz
    Hohner MF-50 Master Fuzz Control
    Honey Baby Crying
    J.H. Experience FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Jax FY-6 Fuzz Master
    LRE Super-Fuzz
    Mana FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Mayfair Model No. 9540 Super Fuzz
    Mica-Tone Super Fuzz
    Oscar FY-6 Super Fuzz
    Rands FY-6 Fuzz
    Shaftesbury Duo Fuzz
    Teisco TF-1 Fuzz
    Tempo TR-6 Fuzz



Thank you. That is a very helpful list.