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Title: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: bbottom on January 15, 2012, 02:33:57 AM
Their really isn't much to them yet you can't find a new one for less than $800.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: clockwork green on January 15, 2012, 03:41:08 AM
I guess suggesting a Collins is out then. I got lucky and got mine on a MusiciansFriend blowout sale for $550 new. There is really something special from guitars that simple. If you really think it's the guitar for you, don't let money get in the way.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Hemisaurus on January 15, 2012, 03:53:01 AM
because people will pay it.
(https://guitarfetish.3dcartstores.com/thumbnail.asp?file=//assets/images/XV400CSB_C.jpg&maxx=175&maxy=0) (https://guitarfetish.3dcartstores.com/mobile/home.asp?#page-25)

Title: Re: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 15, 2012, 05:49:28 AM
I like dem dere reach around bridges!

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Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: The Shocker on January 15, 2012, 08:54:02 AM
Gibson prices are all out of whack.  Melody Makers are around $500.  Guess I'll post this baby again:

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff336/buttons-mags/Whammy/IMG_0086.jpg)

Best $150 Guitar evah!
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Baltar on January 16, 2012, 07:50:54 AM
Because Gibson is run by capitalist pigs.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Ranbat on January 16, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
Because Henry Juszkiewicz, Gibson CEO, wants you to have a better perceived value of your instrument.
Title: Re: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: inductorguitars on January 16, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on January 15, 2012, 05:49:28 AM
I like reach arounds!

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Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: justinhedrick on January 16, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: deaner33 on January 15, 2012, 08:54:02 AM
Gibson prices are all out of whack.  Melody Makers are around $500.  Guess I'll post this baby again:

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff336/buttons-mags/Whammy/IMG_0086.jpg)

Best $150 Guitar evah!

deaner, what's underneath that pick guard? any routes or anything?
Title: Re: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: VOLVO))) on January 16, 2012, 06:10:45 PM
That's a cute guitar....

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Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: The Shocker on January 17, 2012, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: justinhedrick on January 16, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: deaner33 on January 15, 2012, 08:54:02 AM
Gibson prices are all out of whack.  Melody Makers are around $500.  Guess I'll post this baby again:

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff336/buttons-mags/Whammy/IMG_0086.jpg)

Best $150 Guitar evah!

deaner, what's underneath that pick guard? any routes or anything?

I don't recall any routes, but I'll check this evening.

Aww Sunn, thanks.  You know I'll send it to you at some point so you can play with it.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Chovie D on January 17, 2012, 04:24:51 PM
I dunno. The vintage ones seem to be relatively cheap.
Right now I know where I can buy a 1965 Gibson Melody maker for $800. a 60's gibson for $800....wowza!

same with starts. i can buy a 70's strat for about $1200 or i could buy a new replica of a seventies strat for $1400..doesnt make any sense does it?
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Jake on January 17, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah, but...

Melody Maker is not really a Les Paul Jr.

I'd venture to reason the Melody Makers are not as expensive is because they're less desireable instruments in the marketplace.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: RacerX on January 17, 2012, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: deaner33 on January 17, 2012, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: justinhedrick on January 16, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: deaner33 on January 15, 2012, 08:54:02 AM
Gibson prices are all out of whack.  Melody Makers are around $500.  Guess I'll post this baby again:

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff336/buttons-mags/Whammy/IMG_0086.jpg)

Best $150 Guitar evah!

deaner, what's underneath that pick guard? any routes or anything?

I don't recall any routes, but I'll check this evening.

Aww Sunn, thanks.  You know I'll send it to you at some point so you can play with it.

You fools talkin' 'bowt "routs" or "routes"?
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Hemisaurus on January 17, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
I went up Route 66 to get a new bit for my router to route out a cable channel for my router. ;D
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Chovie D on January 17, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: Jake on January 17, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah, but...

Melody Maker is not really a Les Paul Jr.

I'd venture to reason the Melody Makers are not as expensive is because they're less desireable instruments in the marketplace.

for sure! but even the Paul Jrs I see , the creamy old vintage jammies are reasonable..like $1K or so.


was in a band with a guy with a newer Jr. and man i gotta say it was a really nice guitar. no clue what he paid but it couldnt have been much as he was a cheap unemployed  thrifty kinda guy.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: RacerX on January 17, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on January 17, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
I went up Route 66 to get a new bit for my router to route out a cable channel for my router. ;D

Nah, that's where you're wrong: A router (the woodworking tool) "routs"; it does not "route". A wireless router (PC/modem connection) routes.

Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Volume on January 19, 2012, 03:13:52 AM
Quote from: Jake on January 17, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah, but...

Melody Maker is not really a Les Paul Jr.

I'd venture to reason the Melody Makers are not as expensive is because they're less desireable instruments in the marketplace.

I love this guitar. It's the cheapest guitar I've bought and it's been my main recording guitar for two albums.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/Stickerr/Photoon2010-06-14at1127.jpg)

It's a Melody Maker, but the guy I bought it from modified it to look more like a Jr.

Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Hemisaurus on January 19, 2012, 04:01:36 AM
Quote from: Jake on January 17, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah, but...

Melody Maker is not really a Les Paul Jr.

I'd venture to reason the Melody Makers are not as expensive is because they're less desireable instruments in the marketplace.
Whats the diff? I see Gibson make Melody Makers in all their shapes for about $500. Can't you just add a second pickup?
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: justinhedrick on January 19, 2012, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on January 19, 2012, 04:01:36 AM
Quote from: Jake on January 17, 2012, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah, but...

Melody Maker is not really a Les Paul Jr.

I'd venture to reason the Melody Makers are not as expensive is because they're less desireable instruments in the marketplace.
Whats the diff? I see Gibson make Melody Makers in all their shapes for about $500. Can't you just add a second pickup?

it's the body of standard melody maker thinner? i personally like melody makers for their "cobbled up in wood shop" look.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Hemisaurus on January 19, 2012, 10:24:42 AM
Dunno, that's why I asked, I thought the Melody Maker was the Jr :-\
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: The Shocker on January 19, 2012, 08:48:22 PM
The headstocks are different.  Anything else.  ???



Haven't had a chance to look under the pickguard on my SG JR copy.  Will get to it at some point...
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 28, 2012, 05:06:06 PM
Epi Paul Jrs cost almost nothing  ;D

On that note, although I should just replace mine with a higher quality instrument, who makes the cheapest usable replacement bridge with individually adjustable saddles for intonation? Mine is never properly intonated. The 2 screws do not cut it.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: neighbor664 on January 28, 2012, 05:16:14 PM
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Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: clockwork green on February 16, 2012, 01:45:21 AM
Saw this today.  AXL is the Chinese company that bought out VHT...but for $500 you get a LP jr with a Fralin pickup, TonePro's bridge, and assembled in the US (odd choice of Hayward).
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: the diddler on February 16, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
I'd love to get another Jr. but I'm partial to the doublecut version- seems a little harder to find. 
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Jake on February 16, 2012, 02:38:18 PM
I prefer the doublecut as well. Singlecuts always looked a bit peculiar to me without a toggle switch to full up that space.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Chovie D on February 16, 2012, 02:41:33 PM
like a nipple-less boob?
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Lumpy on February 16, 2012, 03:26:26 PM
Leslie West prefers the single cut, the extra wood provides stability to the neck or something like that.

I'm trying to decide between the Billie Joe Armstrong and Joan Jett signature models (just kidding, I bet they are both awesome guitars).
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: the diddler on February 16, 2012, 03:37:43 PM
Jake- you still got that Nashville Jr?  SELL IT TO ME!!
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Jake on February 16, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
Quote from: the diddler on February 16, 2012, 03:37:43 PM
Jake- you still got that Nashville Jr?  SELL IT TO ME!!

Hellsyeah I still have that Junior. Everyone thay plays it says it's one of the best Juniors they've ever played. The only way I'd sell it is if I fell into a raging crack habit or something.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: clockwork green on February 16, 2012, 10:57:25 PM
A good Jr is a very special thing.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: justinhedrick on February 17, 2012, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: Jake on February 16, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
Quote from: the diddler on February 16, 2012, 03:37:43 PM
Jake- you still got that Nashville Jr?  SELL IT TO ME!!

Hellsyeah I still have that Junior. Everyone thay plays it says it's one of the best Juniors they've ever played. The only way I'd sell it is if I fell into a raging crack habit or something.

tell me more about this. is it nashville branded?
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Jake on February 17, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
The Nashville Junior was Gibson's Guitar of the Week #41. Unique in that it's got an ebony board and stock Grovers (and there's only 400 made). I swear mine is only about 5.5 lbs. Resonates for days. If it had a vagina, I would have gotten it pregnant a bunch if times by now.

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Divisions/Gibson%20USA/Guitar%20of%20the%20Week/Nashville-LesPaulJr-Week41/

(Gib's specs erroneously list a 3-way switch)
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: sheikyerbouti on February 18, 2012, 06:44:02 PM
are the new gibson juniors worth the price?there don“t seem to be any alternatives here in germany afaik ???.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: clockwork green on February 18, 2012, 08:37:54 PM
Fuck Gibson (although I own 4)...there has to be some good German makers.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: MichaelZodiac on February 18, 2012, 08:48:20 PM
Both GFS & Rondo ship overseas if you wanna more guitar for less money.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: the diddler on February 19, 2012, 01:24:45 AM
JAKE,  YOU WILL SELL ME YOUR LP JR.
              thisishypmotisms

IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO
               don'tdenyfate

YOU ARE MOVING TO A NEW PLACE
           not all societes accept LPjrs-don't standout, it's DANGEROUS!

BALLS
   
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Pissy on February 24, 2012, 02:35:51 PM
For Jr's, I've found that the '96 models or so seem to be the cheapest true to form, non-faded thing. They got a good finish with a bound neck.

Now, i do wonder why that is, considering that the newer tru to form models are so gawdawful pricey. Are those mid '90s models crap?
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 01, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-limited-run-les-paul-melody-maker-electric-guitar
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: RacerX on March 01, 2012, 12:06:12 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 01, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-limited-run-les-paul-melody-maker-electric-guitar

Humbucker equipped? In Blue? What a weak piece of shit. Probably that new baked maple on the fretboard, too.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: The Shocker on March 01, 2012, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 01, 2012, 12:06:12 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on March 01, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-limited-run-les-paul-melody-maker-electric-guitar

Humbucker equipped? In Blue? What a weak piece of shit. Probably that new baked maple on the fretboard, too.

The jack placement bugs me on those.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 01, 2012, 12:50:55 PM
absolute hunk of shit, by the way^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Jake on March 01, 2012, 12:51:25 PM
I really like the idea of an affordable Gibson. But I have deep reservations that it will hold a candle to other $400 guitars.

Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 01, 2012, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: Jake on March 01, 2012, 12:51:25 PM
I really like the idea of an affordable Gibson. But I have deep reservations that it will hold a candle to other $400 guitars.



Touch one. They don't file the fret ends or anything on those. It's like playing a Hondo, but worse quality. FUCK TORRIDIZED MAPLE.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: RacerX on March 01, 2012, 01:09:41 PM
Betcha my upgraded Indonesian Epi Jr with the P-94 would kick its ass.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: VOLVO))) on March 01, 2012, 01:11:25 PM
Quote from: RacerX on March 01, 2012, 01:09:41 PM
Betcha my upgraded Indonesian Epi Jr with the P-94 would kick its ass.

I bet you a bolt-on Plywood Univox that was dropped out of the back of a Scirocco would kick its ass.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: the diddler on March 01, 2012, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on March 01, 2012, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: Jake on March 01, 2012, 12:51:25 PM
I really like the idea of an affordable Gibson. But I have deep reservations that it will hold a candle to other $400 guitars.



Touch one. They don't file the fret ends or anything on those. It's like playing a Hondo, but worse quality. FUCK TORRIDIZED MAPLE.


Troof.  Had one and it was literally painful to play- usually it's my playing that causes the pain.  Felt like a toy, too- I hate light guitars
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: liquidsmoke on March 01, 2012, 02:12:39 PM
Yowza! Sorry! I wouldn't buy one of those things by the way. 1 pup and 1 knob for $400? No thanks. My Epi Junior has 1 pup and 2 knobs and was 4 times cheaper brand new although I think the frets are totally fucked and in need of grinding.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Metal and Beer on March 01, 2012, 02:25:26 PM
A 400 dollar Gibson in 2012 is gonna be fucking garbage. I'd be delighted if time proved me wrong...
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: the diddler on March 01, 2012, 02:47:02 PM
The melody maker i had was the 2 p'up version that came out a few years back- think I paid 325 at the time.  figured there was a good chance it'd be whack and it surely was.  the neck pickup sounded fucking sweet though, so I kept it for awhile.  Eventually traded to some old bastard for a Beta lead
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: grimniggzy on March 01, 2012, 02:48:11 PM
Quote from: the diddler on March 01, 2012, 02:47:02 PM
The melody maker i had was the 2 p'up version that came out a few years back- think I paid 325 at the time.  figured there was a good chance it'd be whack and it surely was.  the neck pickup sounded fucking sweet though, so I kept it for awhile.  Eventually traded to some old bastard for a Beta lead

damn, good trade... for you.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: the diddler on March 01, 2012, 03:19:08 PM
yeah- I saw that guitar hanging in a shop less than a week later, dude said he was just gonna trade it on some acoustic he'd been buying on layaway.  The store had a $500 tag on it and, of course, they hadn't bothered to file the frets or do a damn thing to it.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: The Shocker on April 17, 2012, 01:01:06 PM
Quote from: justinhedrick on January 16, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
Quote from: deaner33 on January 15, 2012, 08:54:02 AM
Gibson prices are all out of whack.  Melody Makers are around $500.  Guess I'll post this baby again:

(http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff336/buttons-mags/Whammy/IMG_0086.jpg)

Best $150 Guitar evah!

deaner, what's underneath that pick guard? any routes or anything?

Long overdue update - no routs as confirmed by my superawesome guitar tech.   ;D

If you are interested, ask him nicely and he might post a video of it in it's glory...
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Instant Dan on April 17, 2012, 06:45:37 PM
If I was going to do a LPish Junior guitar, I would just get this.
http://elderly.com/images/new_instruments/30N/SEN290-WR_front.jpg (http://elderly.com/images/new_instruments/30N/SEN290-WR_front.jpg)
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: Hemisaurus on April 17, 2012, 07:41:44 PM
I like Reverends, but that binding is ugly :-[
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: grimniggzy on April 17, 2012, 08:00:12 PM
yeah, not diggin it, I usually like damn near everything they put out.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 17, 2012, 11:49:06 PM


Yeah, yeah, this is garbage playing, but it was amusing to hear this little bastard do what it was.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: mutantcolors on April 18, 2012, 02:00:36 AM
whatever, you're better than me and I've been at this since i was 14
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: VOLVO))) on April 18, 2012, 02:15:33 AM
Quote from: mutantcolors on April 18, 2012, 02:00:36 AM
whatever, you're better than me and I've been at this since i was 14

I'm a hack on guitar... and everything else.

WAIT UNTIL I GET A STEEL. Then I can be mediocre at that, too!

anyways, buy one of these Arbors. they're cool. Moar p90s in my future if I decide to keep doing this stupid shit.
Title: Re: Why do Les Paul jrs cost so much?
Post by: grimniggzy on April 18, 2012, 09:32:55 AM
ah shit, there are pink ones too!