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Title: So now I want to make speaker cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 08, 2012, 05:49:01 PM
Now I'd like to source some coily cable for connecting my guitar to my board/board to amp. Any of you guys know of a place that would carry this? Extra points if you know of somewhere where I can buy different colors.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: Hemisaurus on January 08, 2012, 05:57:09 PM
Weird, I was gonna ask this too, sort of. We used to wind cables round a wooden dowel, and leave them in a low heat for half an hour to coil them, but I don't know if that works nowadays, was what I was gonna ask. ???

I don't think you can buy it, except made in cables, because you need a straight bit on each end to solder jacks to, well you don't need it, but it's the normal way.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 08, 2012, 06:06:52 PM
Yeah, that's the one thing I thought of before I began my search. I feel bad using $10 radio shack coily's now that I've re-done my whole board with mogami's w/ pancake jacks. But I'm not ready to give up the mojo of the coily's.
Most places I see online are like this...
http://www.philatron.com/
and you have to request a quote.
I seriously doubt I'll need enough to make this cost effective.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: clockwork green on January 08, 2012, 06:21:08 PM
Lava Cable has some nice stuff but they're not cheap.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 08, 2012, 06:26:38 PM
Yeah, the seem great, but :o at their prices. They don't seem to sell the coiled stuff in bulk either. Obviously because they want to charge you $75 for their Retro Coil jawn.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: rayinreverse on January 08, 2012, 06:45:59 PM
What is cool about a coily cable?
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 08, 2012, 06:53:23 PM
I can throw them in my pedaltrain box and not have to worry about them getting tangled up.
Plus they have mojo.
(http://johnkvintageguitars.homestead.com/190B/redding.jpg)
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: clockwork green on January 09, 2012, 02:57:32 AM
Then there's the hours of fun you'll have untangling especially if you get two.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 09, 2012, 04:48:19 AM
I asked a cable making guy if he'd do decent coilys, but he said he has to order the cable 100 lengths at a time, the straight end means can't just buy a roll.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: moose23 on January 09, 2012, 08:15:42 AM
Warwick Rock Cables are the cheapest coily cables I found but that's with the jacks and I've no idea of the quality.
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: rayinreverse on January 09, 2012, 11:06:24 AM
yeah that outfit has mojo too. doesnt mean I'd wear the fucking thing.  :)
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: Hemisaurus on January 09, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
You would if you had that hair ;D
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: rayinreverse on January 09, 2012, 11:32:10 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on January 09, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
You would if you had that hair ;D

i stand corrected
Title: Re: So I made my first batch of patch cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 20, 2012, 12:52:38 PM
So now I want to make speaker cable to connect my heads to my cabs.
Anybody know if this stuff would be alright to use?
http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=530 (http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=530)
http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=297 (http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=297)
Title: Re: So now I want to make speaker cables...
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 20, 2012, 01:04:54 PM
Normal power flex works fine, stuff that goes from the wall plug to electrical equipment. If you use the orange stuff it shows up better so you don't mix cables.

That page took ages to load and doesn't make much sense, it says 2 conductor but says "These unique professional speaker cables are originally designed to deliver maximum performance from state-of-the-art Tri-Amp Systems. " Tri-amp?

Plus looks like have to order 100 feet at a time. Probably alright to use but probably needlessly overpriced. 4mm² is enough for high power applications, it will be rated higher than the jack plugs that will likely be on it. 2.5mm² is enough for guitar amps. You just need flexible two core cable, most other stuff will be marketing BS for speaker cable.
Title: Re: So now I want to make speaker cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 20, 2012, 01:39:46 PM
Yeah, the tri-amp stuff kind of confused me.
All this terminology is mumbo jumbo to me.
I was looking at Mogami stuff b/c that's what I used for my patch cables and it's supposed to be good quality.
Any links you can hook me up with would be very much appreciated.

Here's what redco has that is Mogami Speaker Cable...
http://www.redco.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=82&cat=Mogami+Speaker+Cable (http://www.redco.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=82&cat=Mogami+Speaker+Cable)
http://www.redco.com/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=80&cat=Speaker+Cable (http://www.redco.com/shopdisplaycategories.asp?id=80&cat=Speaker+Cable)
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: So now I want to make speaker cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 20, 2012, 01:46:52 PM
Also, you can order the stuff by the foot, it's just a little more expensive that way.

That shit is pretty expensive though, I don't think spending $28 for 10 ft + jacks is really cost effective. Might as well order the cables for that much.
Title: Re: So now I want to make speaker cables...
Post by: Mr. Foxen on January 20, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
No need to spend significant money on cables for guitar amps, Stuff that carries power from the wall to anything with significant draw is enough. The important bit is the connector and the soldering job in there, it is where it will break, and broken can fuck you amp. I use specifically for speakers cable to make them just cause I have loads I scavenged, but if I didn't I'd use the cloth covered wire off old electric heaters because it looks cool, or orange flex from gardening equipment. The pro cable guy I know uses Klotz cable.
Title: Re: So now I want to make speaker cables...
Post by: grimniggzy on January 20, 2012, 02:32:15 PM
Dunno if I have anything I can scavenge around the house.
I think I'm gonna say the hell with it buy 2 of these and call it a day. They'll cost me less and I don't have to put them together. Def a no brainer.
http://www.amazon.com/GLS-Audio-Speaker-Cable-12AWG/dp/B004Z2G2T2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=IL0XPRJ5O34SU&colid=LCJ1V0FGTAFM (http://www.amazon.com/GLS-Audio-Speaker-Cable-12AWG/dp/B004Z2G2T2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=IL0XPRJ5O34SU&colid=LCJ1V0FGTAFM)

Thanks a lot, though.