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Title: Gear Intervention
Post by: clockwork green on December 18, 2011, 10:06:54 PM
Too many pedals lately...in the last two weeks I've bought:
-Eventide Space
-Strymon Timeline
-E-H Pog2 (I still own an original POG)
-D*A*M Meathead (still own a Meathead Deluxe)


I go through periods where I don't buy much and other bursts of buying a whole hell of a lot and usually not cheap shit.  Now I'm looking at an RJM rack/midi control unit so I can put all of my pedals in a rack unit and turn them on and off via a midi controller...mainly so I can turn multiple pedals on and off with one switch as well as change the preset on my midi pedals (Space and Timeline) as well.  Then I found myself emailing Jame Trussart about making a Flying V which he's already planning not to mention that I'm up for another Toneczar Openhaus in January and my Electrical Guitar Company V should be done in February and I'm having a new nut and fret leveling done on another guitar right now.  My 20 year old Honda Accord is a comedy of errors, aside from the engine, nearly nothing works and yet I haven't put a dime in that thing in years...hell, it's 2 months overdue for an oil change. 
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:08:26 PM
So you post this in the hopes one of us come round and smack you upside the head?
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: hashbrowns on December 18, 2011, 10:11:29 PM
Damn dude I feel like such a simpleton compared to all you guys here  :D. I use a peavey halfstack with a big muff and thats it haha. As for guitars I use a v-100 cheapie ltd/esp and an epiphone sg. You guys have more money invested in just your pedalboard then I've collectively spent on gear period throughout my entire life.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Lumpy on December 18, 2011, 10:18:16 PM
If it fuels your desire to keep playing, it's money well spent.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
3 Cures for GAS
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 18, 2011, 10:25:01 PM
YOU NEED TO EXERCISE SOME SELF CONTROL THERE, GREENIE.

-plays his awesome new Guild S100 whilst looking at stack of bills dude at the end of the month.-
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: dunwichamps on December 18, 2011, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
3 Cures for GAS

  • Play More Shows
  • Run out of Money
  • Grow Up


Nah, just kill yourself or impregnant someone so you have lots of bills
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on December 18, 2011, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
3 Cures for GAS

  • Play More Shows
  • Run out of Money
  • Grow Up


Nah, just kill yourself or impregnant someone so you have lots of bills
I think that could be filed under growing up. You either do it voluntarily or have it forced on you, you're going the forcible way, which generally involves Betty-Sue, her dad, a shotgun and the local JP
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: dunwichamps on December 18, 2011, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: dunwichamps on December 18, 2011, 10:31:31 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
3 Cures for GAS

  • Play More Shows
  • Run out of Money
  • Grow Up


Nah, just kill yourself or impregnant someone so you have lots of bills
I think that could be filed under growing up. You either do it voluntarily or have it forced on you, you're going the forcible way, which generally involves Betty-Sue, her dad, a shotgun and the local JP

I guess growing up is a broad category. I still GAS all day long but I think thats just a part of the human condition
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: grimniggzy on December 18, 2011, 10:37:34 PM
I know man, tell me about it. I finally broke down and bought a voodoo pedal power.
;D
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:38:26 PM
Naw, you can grow out of it, I did, didn't force myself or anything, it just sort of happened. Now I can look at MF and ZZounds catalogs without the slightest twinge. There's still a few pieces of gear I wouldn't mind having, but I don't really care either way about it. It allows me to exert great smugness on those still afflicted ;)
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 18, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
I just wish I could sell more shit.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: I,Galactus on December 18, 2011, 11:13:49 PM
That was a pretty sweet vid... Playing strings makes purdy ladies that much purdier.   :)

...

Also, I'll take that Timeline off ya hands... FUH FREE.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: clockwork green on December 18, 2011, 11:25:43 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
3 Cures for GAS

  • Play More Shows
  • Run out of Money
  • Grow Up
What does playing more shows have to do with anything? I'm also not too keen on the growing up thing...seems like you're just starting shit.
I'm not really askin for help or advice, just commenting on how the gear bug bites me every now and again and if others can relate then fine. I was talking to another musician I know about how I figured I was pretty much done with pedals a few years ago but in the last year and a half or so I've been buying them like crazy. The Electrical is the first guitar I've bought in a year and the last one before that was probably three years ago...I've even donated two in the last year. A lot of the gear splurging is related to starting more projects and being more active.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 11:37:21 PM
Sorry, I thought the intervention was because you wanted help.

I've noticed that bands that play a shit-ton of shows are generally happier with their gear, the less people play out, the more they seem to want to mess about with their gear, like it's a substitute for playing shows.

Growing up was a blanket term, for, maybe you'll get to the point where you're gear doesn't seem as important as just playing, to maybe you'll be a baby daddy and need to spend your money on other things. 
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: dunwichamps on December 18, 2011, 11:49:11 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:38:26 PM
Naw, you can grow out of it, I did, didn't force myself or anything, it just sort of happened. Now I can look at MF and ZZounds catalogs without the slightest twinge. There's still a few pieces of gear I wouldn't mind having, but I don't really care either way about it. It allows me to exert great smugness on those still afflicted ;)

i guess i have builders GAS, its like *thinks up neat amp idea* "I should build this* GASSSSS build
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: clockwork green on December 18, 2011, 11:54:41 PM
I just wanted an excuse to play the Intervention theme song.  Gear is never as important as songwriting but a new piece of gear can and often does inspire me to write something new. 

I have no kids and never intend on having kids...37 years so far so good.  I don't see that as growing up, it's just another responsibility, you don't necessarily have to grow up to do it and even then I'm not sure what growing up would actually look like.

I've known and have seen a few bands that have kept at it over pretty long sample periods and some of them rarely if ever change their gear and some of them change everything every six months, some are in popular bands, some just jam at home...doesn't seem to be a pattern than I can pick up on. 
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 18, 2011, 11:58:06 PM
I don't consider it changing, I consider it "upgrading."
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: clockwork green on December 19, 2011, 12:14:52 AM
I also like the hunt of new gear...maybe I just like fixing problems that doesn't actually exist.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: hashbrowns on December 19, 2011, 12:23:14 AM
Yeah I'd be the kind of dude who buys gear constantly if I had that option but I'm a broke ass college student who's unemployed haha. The few times I have bought gear I played a LOT more that month so I think that buying lots of gear is positive for sure. Only thing I don't understand is people that are play at home kind of dudes and still have gas. I mean if I'm just jamming at home alone I hardly ever even plug in to my amp honestly. I worry about tone only when I'm in the room with my band.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: The Shocker on December 19, 2011, 07:35:01 AM
I bought 3 fuzzes and a guitar this month.  I have self-control issues.  Good thing my wife makes a ton of money.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: bass sic on December 19, 2011, 09:21:25 AM
If you were big into hunting you would constantly be gassing for a new rifle or some other hunting gear. Into racing cars, you would be going thru torque converters and intake manifolds like changing diapers, trying to find the perfect setup. As far as "hobbies" go this is actually a fairly inexpensive addiction.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: justinhedrick on December 19, 2011, 09:30:22 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on December 18, 2011, 11:58:06 PM
I don't consider it changing, I consider it "upgrading."


i agree with this.

but at the same time, i'm like hemi: crank your gear up, twist some knobs, and use it. once you know what it can really do (or not do) then you can make a decision.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 19, 2011, 10:02:03 AM
I'm totally fucked in terms of compulsive buying, I'm a gun fanatic AND a gear fanatic, AND a survival fanatic, AND a video game fanatic, AND a vintage audio fanatic, etc.

I started dumpster diving to nick parts to fix shit I already have, you'd be amazing what motherfuckers throw out.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: The Shocker on December 19, 2011, 10:07:21 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on December 19, 2011, 10:02:03 AM
I'm totally fucked in terms of compulsive buying, I'm a gun fanatic AND a gear fanatic, AND a survival fanatic, AND a video game fanatic, AND a vintage audio fanatic, etc.

I started dumpster diving to nick parts to fix shit I already have, you'd be amazing what motherfuckers throw out.

Vintage audio?  That's my other hobby bro!  I'll have to send you some pictures of what I've got.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: The Riffer on December 19, 2011, 10:21:04 AM
Quote from: bass sic on December 19, 2011, 09:21:25 AM
If you were big into hunting you would constantly be gassing for a new rifle or some other hunting gear. Into racing cars, you would be going thru torque converters and intake manifolds like changing diapers, trying to find the perfect setup. As far as "hobbies" go this is actually a fairly inexpensive addiction.
Truth. While I have alot tied up in musical gear, it's miniscule compared to what I have in motorcycles. Fuck,at aboot $500 a set of tires, 3-4 sets a year, broken parts, protective gear,gas/insurance...... afte that, a nice LP,USA P,  or nice amp seems like a reasonable investment.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Jake on December 19, 2011, 11:06:49 AM
GAS is an affliction which tends to flare and subside. One potential problem is that the more advanced the case, the more the gear tends to cost at the later stages.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 19, 2011, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: deaner33 on December 19, 2011, 10:07:21 AM
Quote from: SunnO))) on December 19, 2011, 10:02:03 AM
I'm totally fucked in terms of compulsive buying, I'm a gun fanatic AND a gear fanatic, AND a survival fanatic, AND a video game fanatic, AND a vintage audio fanatic, etc.

I started dumpster diving to nick parts to fix shit I already have, you'd be amazing what motherfuckers throw out.

Vintage audio?  That's my other hobby bro!  I'll have to send you some pictures of what I've got.

Fuckin'! Sweet!
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Chovie D on December 19, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: The Riffer on December 19, 2011, 10:21:04 AM
Quote from: bass sic on December 19, 2011, 09:21:25 AM
If you were big into hunting you would constantly be gassing for a new rifle or some other hunting gear. Into racing cars, you would be going thru torque converters and intake manifolds like changing diapers, trying to find the perfect setup. As far as "hobbies" go this is actually a fairly inexpensive addiction.
Truth. While I have alot tied up in musical gear, it's miniscule compared to what I have in motorcycles. Fuck,at aboot $500 a set of tires, 3-4 sets a year, broken parts, protective gear,gas/insurance...... afte that, a nice LP,USA P,  or nice amp seems like a reasonable investment.

this is what i was gonna say. just be gald you are not into harleys or small aircraft or boating or whatever, talk about money sinks.
*jutsifies his own considerable GAS
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: bass sic on December 19, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
I have quite a few expensive addictions, but the only one I'm still throwing cash at is music. If I was smart I'd sell off all the guns and 4x4 shit, but instead I'll keep all that and still spend on guitars/bass's. At least it ain't dope and whores anymore.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: apekillman on December 19, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
I think there is definitely a correlation between the gear (be it guitars, bikes, hot rods, planes, etc...) one can purchase and the financial bracket one is in.   A guy that collects vintage sports cars is usually a wealthy man.  A guy that has a bunch of hooptie muscle cars rusted out in the yard, isn't making much dollars, but wants cars.  I went through the gear buying stage myself.  I currently own 5 complete drum sets (only two complete hardware and cymbal sets), 7 guitar amps, 12 various guitar cabs, various pedals (including 5 d.a.m. Meatheads), 3 guitars and tons of other shit.  However, I bought all that stuff mostly prior to my son being born.  Now, I can't click on Craigslist and buy some cabinet just cuz I want it.   If you have the means, the urge will be scratched.





Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: cat shepard on December 19, 2011, 11:16:42 PM
Just don't have the dough, but I got some gear over the years.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: Instant Dan on December 20, 2011, 09:09:32 AM
The problem is spreading my money out evenly. :D
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: bass sic on December 20, 2011, 09:10:19 AM
Damn ape, that's alot of gear. You drum AND play guitar?
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: apekillman on December 20, 2011, 05:27:07 PM
I drum in bands.  I wouldn't say I can "play" guitar.  I fuck around.  Write riffs.  I bought most of the guitar stuff, cuz the other guys are / were broke.  And I was serious about doing the band.   I most certainly wasn't trying to brag, just painting the picture.   For awhile I got bit with the sunn amp bug.  I still peruse the ebays and craigslists just in case I could score the missing piece that will complete the collection.
Title: Re: Gear Intervention
Post by: chille01 on December 20, 2011, 05:36:08 PM
I've stopped looking at Craigslist.  It's like a recovering alcoholic who can't go into a bar.  If I go in, I'll buy.  And right now, I'm saving for a vacation, and don't really need anything besides.