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Title: Why is it....
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 14, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
I can have a maple fingerboard handmade and sent to me from Ireland cheaper than I can buy one here?

Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 14, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Capitalism
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: mawso on December 14, 2011, 08:42:03 PM
i dunno but if you're gonna be weirded out by things from OS being cheaper.. never ever come to Australia.. or your entire life will be spent walking around in a confused and perplexed daze

even australian built stuff can be had cheaper from jap & us websites
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Metal and Beer on December 14, 2011, 09:02:41 PM
Environmental regulations on the import/export of wood? I'm guessing that may be an issue nowadays..
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: bitter on December 14, 2011, 09:15:38 PM
^ That's what I was thinking too, but maple is generally a domestic wood, right? Unless there's some Ugandan super maple tone wood I'm unaware of.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Pundan on December 14, 2011, 10:43:54 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 14, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
I can have a maple fingerboard handmade and sent to me from Ireland cheaper than I can buy one here?
Because Greece has fucked up the entire economy in Europe by just not paying their loans.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 14, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
Yeah, that was the main thing, I know they grow maple in the US, do they grow it in Ireland?
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: giantchris on December 14, 2011, 10:56:33 PM
Maple is definitely a native plant to the US.  For tonewoods native to the US I think Walnut, Ash, and basswood are the big ones.  I think you can actually make decent sounding instruments out of redwood and teak but that would be prohibitively expensive.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: inductorguitars on December 14, 2011, 11:44:17 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 14, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
Yeah, that was the main thing, I know they grow maple in the US, do they grow it in Ireland?

Well you should know know you are Irish. <ducks>  ;D
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 14, 2011, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: inductorguitars on December 14, 2011, 11:44:17 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 14, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
Yeah, that was the main thing, I know they grow maple in the US, do they grow it in Ireland?

Well you should know know you are Irish. <ducks>  ;D

He plays skin flute, not tin whistle!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: inductorguitars on December 14, 2011, 11:53:01 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on December 14, 2011, 11:46:00 PM

He plays skin flute, not tin whistle!  ;D ;D ;D

Beer almost went all over my lappy.

(not to spread any rumours but he used to raise sheep. I've seen pics.)
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 15, 2011, 12:06:58 AM
Scotland, where the men are men (in skirts) and the sheep are scared!
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Volume on December 15, 2011, 02:37:12 AM
The Irish are broke?
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Post by: RageofKlugman on December 15, 2011, 06:04:21 AM
QuoteThe Irish are broke?

I think so - the Irish economy going down the toilet was an appetiser for bigger European economies like Greece. In any event, the fretboard being cheaper from Ireland seems very odd as the Euro hasn't really fallen sharply against the dollar (as far I'm aware at any rate).
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Pundan on December 15, 2011, 10:12:46 AM
According to Wikipedia maple does not grow naturally in Ireland. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Map_genus_Acer.png (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Map_genus_Acer.png))
I can't really say that I'm into the subject or whatever, but the economic situation of Greece and other countries w/ bad economy is affecting all the members of the European union, and that surely will leave  mark on the value of the Euro. Sweden, where I live haven't changed it's currency to the Euro and therefore we're not as struck by the economical downfall that other countries which have changed to Euro are, Ireland being one of them.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Discö Rice on December 15, 2011, 10:40:09 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 14, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
I can have a maple fingerboard handmade and sent to me from Ireland cheaper than I can buy one here?



Link? Do they make bound, block inlay Jaguar necks?
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 15, 2011, 03:01:07 PM
Erik, you know that I just used to let them wander around the garden, they were Peter's sheep not mine, I was just too cheap to buy a lawnmower.

Disco, naw it's just a flat piece of maple. Are you wanting a fingerboard or a whole neck? As I understand it, you can get a precut and preslotted and radiused piece of maple, which you would have to glue in place, and then fret the slots, you can't fret a fingerboard before it's mounted on the neck. I may be wrong, but this is my understanding of it.

I have an old bass, with a peeling fingerboard from someone elses bodged repair, and I thought maybe I'd just put a piece of maple on it, and have me a nice maple fretless bass, rather than glue the current piece of rosewood back on. I'm interested how a non-radiused fingerboard would be to play, and if it's difficult, maybe I'd get it radiused.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: neighbor664 on December 15, 2011, 03:38:39 PM
I don't know about tone wood but my brother works for a US pharma company that recently moved one of it's manufacturing divisions to Ireland in the interest of saving money.
Title: Re: Re: Why is it....
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 15, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
stew mac sells radius sanding blocks, Herb. Just do it yerself if you dont like no radius.

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Title: Re: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 15, 2011, 06:19:46 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on December 15, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
stew mac sells radius sanding blocks, Herb. Just do it yerself if you dont like no radius.

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I'd just get Unca' Dave to do it. He finished the trench to his new workshop, so it'll be in action soon.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: BrianDamage on December 15, 2011, 07:04:42 PM
Would a lack of radius be bad for fretless playability?

I have no clue really but it seems like it might be.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 15, 2011, 09:16:02 PM
I'm thinking if I get the nut and bridge set right, it'll make playing a lot easier.

Erik, haven't looked at that picture in ages, it's true, I used to live in a field, this was my back garden ;D

(http://dub.greboguru.org/sheep.jpg)
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: VOLVO))) on December 16, 2011, 01:01:11 AM
It seems your mistress has found your other mistress...
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Post by: Hemisaurus on December 16, 2011, 09:27:45 AM
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: justinhedrick on December 16, 2011, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 15, 2011, 03:01:07 PM
Erik, you know that I just used to let them wander around the garden, they were Peter's sheep not mine, I was just too cheap to buy a lawnmower.

Disco, naw it's just a flat piece of maple. Are you wanting a fingerboard or a whole neck? As I understand it, you can get a precut and preslotted and radiused piece of maple, which you would have to glue in place, and then fret the slots, you can't fret a fingerboard before it's mounted on the neck. I may be wrong, but this is my understanding of it.

I have an old bass, with a peeling fingerboard from someone elses bodged repair, and I thought maybe I'd just put a piece of maple on it, and have me a nice maple fretless bass, rather than glue the current piece of rosewood back on. I'm interested how a non-radiused fingerboard would be to play, and if it's difficult, maybe I'd get it radiused.

http://www.rip-n-guitar.com/Guitar-Neck-Radius.htm (http://www.rip-n-guitar.com/Guitar-Neck-Radius.htm)


according to this schmoe, classical guitars are pretty much flat radiused. i love the feel of those necks, so it might work well for a bass too? if you like that.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: inductorguitars on December 16, 2011, 12:17:26 PM
See I just told a friend that the Scottish do have a sense of humour!  :-*
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Ayek on December 16, 2011, 06:03:25 PM
Quote from: Volume on December 15, 2011, 02:37:12 AM
The Irish are broke?

I blame Bono
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: moose23 on December 18, 2011, 07:33:28 AM
Who's the company in Ireland your looking at?
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:47:46 AM
Some luthier, seems to build his own guitars and mandos and stuff.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on December 18, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
Sweet video, honey!
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: moose23 on December 18, 2011, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 10:47:46 AM
Some luthier, seems to build his own guitars and mandos and stuff.

Aye but who is it? I want to see if I know them and then answer your question.

RE maple it's all imported here and probably comes from North America.

RE the economy, yeah it's pretty fucked but not really any more fucked than the US. Same problems too, too many banks getting too big of bailouts. Although we'd probably be fine if a previous corrupt government hadn't given away a huge wealth of our natural resources..

Now back to talking about guitars. :)
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 03:10:03 PM
Yeah, I was hoping to fob you off with a generic reply, cause I can't remember where I bookmarked the site, or if I did atall. Hmm, he's called Noel, if that helps, I know I only know one Noel, and it's not him, s'all I can tell you, and he sells wood stuffs.
Title: Re: Why is it....
Post by: moose23 on December 18, 2011, 04:25:07 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on December 18, 2011, 03:10:03 PM
Yeah, I was hoping to fob you off with a generic reply, cause I can't remember where I bookmarked the site, or if I did atall. Hmm, he's called Noel, if that helps, I know I only know one Noel, and it's not him, s'all I can tell you, and he sells wood stuffs.

ha I don't know any Luthiers called Noel. Perhaps that's why it's so cheap. ;)