Can the tuner out on this be used as a third line level signal output for an additional amp?
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Radial-Engineering-BigShot-ABY-Passive-Switcher-107219693-i1124793.gc
I know it can with the Framptone 3-banger, but that fucker's $369 dollars new, and this guy's $79.
Yeah but it looks like the tuner out is always on...
that's just fine - there will likely be zero switching going on. It will be used to run three bass amps simultaneously.
couldnt you build something like that for fairly cheap and customize it to exactly how you want? its juts a couple switches and jacks right, completely passive?
Maybe you could. I'm a drummer. ;)
Actually that $79 dollar thingy has a number of other cool options. Seems like a good deal for the money.
DOD resistance mixer is like 30-40 bucks used, has one In and four Outs (can be used either direction). No battery required. Knobs don't boost your signal, only cuts. Actually, I don't know if there is any signal loss when splitting your signal this way (duh). If so, could be overcome with a boost in front (MXR Micro Amp or whatever)
(http://www.noisefx.com/images/products/dodresistancemixerac240_1130_large.jpg)
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/dod/first/240 (http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/dod/first/240)
If you don't need switching capability, then why pay extra for it. Switching could be cool too, though.
Quote from: Discö Rice on November 29, 2011, 06:34:10 PM
Maybe you could. I'm a drummer. ;)
Actually that $79 dollar thingy has a number of other cool options. Seems like a good deal for the money.
watcha doing running three bass amps at once as a drummer? got some wild e-drums? ;)
Thanks for the heads up! just found this -
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Nady-MM-141-4-Channel-Mini-Mixer-630433-i1153423.gc#
$22.99 requires battery or 9v power supply, provides up to 20db of gain.
Whatcha think?
It ain't me, Choves. My bass player's trying some shit out, and since she doesn't post here I figured I'd check with you hep cats for recommendations.
that's got 4 inputs and one out. you want the other way around right?
Should go either direction. The DOD mixer is labeled the same. This one has a boost (bonus!)
That's what I was thinking. I wonder...
Also i have and use the Radial Big shot. It's a quality device. But I don't use it for three amps.
Maybe it's reversible if it's completely passive - but would a powered mixer only go one way?
Quote from: Discö Rice on November 29, 2011, 07:25:33 PM
Maybe it's reversible if it's completely passive - but would a powered mixer only go one way?
I can't say for sure but my brain tells me yes because of overload handling and diodes and other such gadgetry. I don't really know the theory, I'm an autodidact
The DOD def. goes both directions, as long as you use the correct bi-directional cables*. I have the DOD one and can guarantee it.
*that part is a joke.
Quote from: Lumpy on November 29, 2011, 07:35:46 PM
The DOD def. goes both directions, as long as you use the correct bi-directional cables*. I have the DOD one and can guarantee it.
*that part is a joke.
Hush. He's a drummer. Let's sell him some bi-directional cables
No expert here either but I think these passive devices dont have diodes and such.
They are literally just jacks , switch and wire. Ive built a few aby boxes...I'll use a resistor if im putting in an led but thats it.
But running multiple amps like that without isolation transformers can give you wicked hum and some other shit that aint nice
Can I use this device with a bi-directional cable to send a signal to my DVD rewinder?
You'll need an beta/hdmi adapter
..with HazaraiTM
I've only used it with electronics, 4 into one solid state amp, so I can't comment on wicked hum.
Perhaps I should take a moment to collect my thoughts, and enjoy some hossafey with a side of flim-flam sauce.
Quote from: RAGER on November 29, 2011, 07:43:41 PM
But running multiple amps like that without isolation transformers can give you wicked hum and some other shit that aint nice
I was serious about this statement though.
Quote from: RAGER on November 29, 2011, 08:02:22 PM
Quote from: RAGER on November 29, 2011, 07:43:41 PM
But running multiple amps like that without isolation transformers can give you wicked hum and some other shit that aint nice
I was serious about this statement though.
Word.
I would take the Radial over that Nady. I don't think the Nady would even do what you want (it's a mixer, not a splitter). The other thing you could look for is an audio DA (distribution amplifier). Unlike the Radial, it would be active and make sure all of the outputs run just as hot as the input. Might find something like that in the studio or live sound section. But I bet the radial would work just fine.
The AMZ Mosfet buffered splitter would be a good option if someone could build one for you, it's what I'd use if I were running 2 or 3 amps. There's a very good chance of losing quite a bit of signal when you split it three ways. Next step up is using a transformer on each signal so they're completely isolated but 9 times out of ten you'll be grand with just the Mosfets for buffering and isolating signal. You should also probably consider phase issues when running this many different amps.
That Radial has a phase reverse switch for the B output. Doesn't look like it does for the tuner out. With balanced cables you can make a phase reverse cable very easily. Not sure how you'd pull it off with unbalanced cables though.
Quote from: chille01 on November 30, 2011, 09:41:58 AM
That Radial has a phase reverse switch for the B output. Doesn't look like it does for the tuner out. With balanced cables you can make a phase reverse cable very easily. Not sure how you'd pull it off with unbalanced cables though.
if it's to fix simple phase issues you could always "fix it downstream" with a phase reverse speaker cable.
I gotta ask why anyone would want to run 3 bass amps at once? i understand two at once, to blend two tones Ive seen Jared from Melvins do that, but it seems like any more than two would=mud.
What kind of amps are they? Surely they have some sort of pre-amp out or direct out and you can just run em into each other with patch cables?
The Radial is THE SHIT! I don't run 3 amps off it, but I am running two and the phase inverter is sick....MONSTER TONE!
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They're each running to different speaker cabs, each with different configurations and EQ's. I dunno. Probably not how I'd do it, but it's not my setup.