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Title: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: mortlock on September 12, 2011, 09:43:13 PM
scene politics can really work in your favor or not depending on the status of things in your town..fuck. right now im playing defense and getting my ass kicked..
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Lumpy on September 12, 2011, 10:09:14 PM
 ???
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 12, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
Least you have a scene, here you play Van Halen and Nickelback covers to drunk rednecks and govt. workers, or punk to under 21 kids.

But hey, got your health, right ;D
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Instant Dan on September 13, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
I thought Austin could be bad with politics, Houston is just as bad. Most are classic blues rock cover bands, the other half being kids under 18 wanting to be The Strokes or next tight pants bands. Hell getting a band going is like getting a job, it's all about who you know and performed with.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Chovie D on September 13, 2011, 05:56:51 PM
politics? what are you guys talking aboot? you mean when like 3 bookers run the entire town and you have to kiss their ass to get any gig? that kind of thing?
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: justinhedrick on September 14, 2011, 09:21:21 AM
Quote from: Instant Dan on September 13, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
I thought Austin could be bad with politics, Houston is just as bad. Most are classic blues rock cover bands, the other half being kids under 18 wanting to be The Strokes or next tight pants bands. Hell getting a band going is like getting a job, it's all about who you know and performed with.

i agree with this completely. and the town i live in only has 100,000 people in it!
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: spookstrickland on September 14, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on September 13, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
I thought Austin could be bad with politics, Houston is just as bad. Most are classic blues rock cover bands, the other half being kids under 18 wanting to be The Strokes or next tight pants bands. Hell getting a band going is like getting a job, it's all about who you know and performed with.

Sounds exactly like Portland.  Most adds say 18 to 20 something.  The only opportunity for 30+ year olds is Buttrock Tribute Bands :-(
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: justinhedrick on September 14, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on September 14, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on September 13, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
I thought Austin could be bad with politics, Houston is just as bad. Most are classic blues rock cover bands, the other half being kids under 18 wanting to be The Strokes or next tight pants bands. Hell getting a band going is like getting a job, it's all about who you know and performed with.

Sounds exactly like Portland.  Most adds say 18 to 20 something.  The only opportunity for 30+ year olds is Buttrock Tribute Bands :-(

no stoner/doom bands up there?

i will say this about champaign: it seems like the people who are in their late 20s/30s and in some cases 40s are having a hell of a lot more fun making music that the kids who are in their early 20s.

i believe it was matt pike who said 30 is the new 20. rock. ballz.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Discö Rice on September 14, 2011, 06:00:36 PM
Quotei believe it was matt pike who said 30 is the new 20. rock. ballz.

Fuck yes it is.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Chovie D on September 14, 2011, 06:19:41 PM
this is what every performance based entertainment field is like even on amatuer levels. art, drama, acting, it helps to knowe the movers and shakers.

Its always about who you know and what can you do for THEM.
Either you can put 100 asses in seats or you know the booker. preferably both.

Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: the diddler on September 14, 2011, 08:36:26 PM
yep, and if you know the booker from 20 years back with some not-so-fond shared memories, well.... enjoy playing tues. nights to 7 fuckers and a bartender
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: SpaceTrucker on September 14, 2011, 09:07:04 PM
The scene giveth(coke and dope) the scene dropeth(when addicted to said coke and dope). ;D
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: mortlock on September 15, 2011, 12:47:01 AM
Quote from: Discö Rice on September 14, 2011, 06:00:36 PM
Quotei believe it was matt pike who said 30 is the new 20. rock. ballz.

Fuck yes it is.
yeah well 40 is the new 30..
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 15, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
I'd say 16, judging from the 40+ year olds I know ;D
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: spookstrickland on September 15, 2011, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: justinhedrick on September 14, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on September 14, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on September 13, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
I thought Austin could be bad with politics, Houston is just as bad. Most are classic blues rock cover bands, the other half being kids under 18 wanting to be The Strokes or next tight pants bands. Hell getting a band going is like getting a job, it's all about who you know and performed with.

Sounds exactly like Portland.  Most adds say 18 to 20 something.  The only opportunity for 30+ year olds is Buttrock Tribute Bands :-(

no stoner/doom bands up there?

i will say this about champaign: it seems like the people who are in their late 20s/30s and in some cases 40s are having a hell of a lot more fun making music that the kids who are in their early 20s.

i believe it was matt pike who said 30 is the new 20. rock. ballz.

there are a few but the scene is very cliquish and snobby.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: RAGER on September 15, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on September 15, 2011, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: justinhedrick on September 14, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: spookstrickland on September 14, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: Instant Dan on September 13, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
I thought Austin could be bad with politics, Houston is just as bad. Most are classic blues rock cover bands, the other half being kids under 18 wanting to be The Strokes or next tight pants bands. Hell getting a band going is like getting a job, it's all about who you know and performed with.

Sounds exactly like Portland.  Most adds say 18 to 20 something.  The only opportunity for 30+ year olds is Buttrock Tribute Bands :-(

no stoner/doom bands up there?

i will say this about champaign: it seems like the people who are in their late 20s/30s and in some cases 40s are having a hell of a lot more fun making music that the kids who are in their early 20s.

i believe it was matt pike who said 30 is the new 20. rock. ballz.

there are a few but the scene is very cliquish and snobby.

Spook again you're clueless.  Every scene is cliquish for fuck sakes.  there is healthy and thriving heavy underground scene in Portland.  Always has been.  Just stay in the couve dude.  It's more your pace.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Discö Rice on September 15, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
The key to breaking into those cliques/scenes is to be way better than the bands that are already in them. Then they come to you. Not as hard as it sounds.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 15, 2011, 06:06:25 PM
I always found that just pisses them off, and they hate you even more ;)

Conform, or play somewhere your appreciated. Option #2 is easier on the soul.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Lumpy on September 15, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
This thread is very cryptic.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Hemisaurus on September 15, 2011, 07:02:30 PM
Getting all philosophical, I wonder if this is why the music scene in the UK changes more rapidly and is more fad based. Not downplaying the UK scene lots of good musical styles came from there. But you're never more than a days drive from anywhere, well unless your north of Inverness, and heading for Brighton or something.

Over here, a days drive (like 10 hours, not 24) can get you across Nebraska, if you're lucky, what is with Nebraska man, yike.

Anyway the scene here is like an isolated cess-pool of hell ;D
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Discö Rice on September 15, 2011, 07:18:58 PM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on September 15, 2011, 07:02:30 PM
what is with Nebraska man, yike.


Nebraska gets one yike.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Pissy on September 15, 2011, 11:17:06 PM
Quote from: Discö Rice on September 15, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
The key to breaking into those cliques/scenes is to be way better than the bands that are already in them. Then they come to you. Not as hard as it sounds.

I'm totally down with Disco here. It's especially great to expose kids that know little more than post-garage rock to the heavy in a manner that grabs them, and possibly converts them. You know who can do this?  Floor can do this. I've seen it.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Danny G on September 18, 2011, 08:34:32 AM
Austin has so many bands and awesome players that it's hard to make a name for yrself. But there is also a lot of mutual respect because there are so many awesome players it keeps u humble and real, makes u step up yr game or step aside. Only politics I've run into were club owners or 2nd rate players with a big ego. And big egos do not fare well there. People are cool. If u are not cool, it will hinder u.

As for the aforementioned age thing, depends on what the band is looking for. A lot of young business minded hungry bands aren't into old fat dudes. Gettin old (37 today) but still skinny (thank god for shitty pay). Got that going for me, heh!
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: liquidsmoke on September 18, 2011, 01:41:38 PM
edit: fixed. The bit of brownie I ate does not approve of what I previously typed here.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Mike_Sims on September 21, 2011, 03:16:53 AM
make the scene your bitch
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: mawso on September 21, 2011, 09:31:36 AM
This is a reasonably big city (about 4m) - but the musician scene is pretty close knit.

There are plenty of guys who really rate themselves, because they are booking door deal gigs on Friday nights at some mid-level venues.  They act like they're breathing a different air to you, and if they choose to pay you attention they seem to think their very thoughts can control your destiny.

Then there are a few guys who are in bands that have actually made a bit of a name for themselves internationally, and they have toured europe and america etc, and they are pretty much the nicest, friendliest, most laid-back, most down-to-earth dudes you could ever hope to run into.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: Danny G on September 21, 2011, 05:29:02 PM
Quote from: mawso on September 21, 2011, 09:31:36 AM
There are plenty of guys who really rate themselves, because they are booking door deal gigs on Friday nights at some mid-level venues.  They act like they're breathing a different air to you, and if they choose to pay you attention they seem to think their very thoughts can control your destiny.

Then there are a few guys who are in bands that have actually made a bit of a name for themselves internationally, and they have toured europe and america etc, and they are pretty much the nicest, friendliest, most laid-back, most down-to-earth dudes you could ever hope to run into.


The difference between talking the talk and walking the walk.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: RAGER on September 21, 2011, 10:22:25 PM
Exactly!!  Red Fang. super uber cool dudes.  look what their summer was like.  Holy shit balls.
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: clockwork green on September 22, 2011, 12:41:20 AM
What was their summer like?
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: mortlock on September 22, 2011, 01:06:53 AM
apparently it was killer..im sure it was better than mine..although mine wasnt bad..i just hate the hot weather..
Title: Re: the scene givith and the scene taketh away
Post by: mawso on September 22, 2011, 03:39:43 AM
Quote from: Danny G on September 21, 2011, 05:29:02 PM
Quote from: mawso on September 21, 2011, 09:31:36 AM
There are plenty of guys who really rate themselves, because they are booking door deal gigs on Friday nights at some mid-level venues.  They act like they're breathing a different air to you, and if they choose to pay you attention they seem to think their very thoughts can control your destiny.

Then there are a few guys who are in bands that have actually made a bit of a name for themselves internationally, and they have toured europe and america etc, and they are pretty much the nicest, friendliest, most laid-back, most down-to-earth dudes you could ever hope to run into.


The difference between talking the talk and walking the walk.

I guess if you've done some of that cool shit and lots people know you already, then you really don't need to act like you're top shit?

But also, I'm sure a lot of these guys go on to do cool things just because people are that much happier to help them or to give them a shot.  I mean, the guys in Airbourne for instance are always out at the local rock clubs and pubs when they're not on tour, and they're just some of the friendliest and most laid back dudes around.  No rock star attitude at all.  And if you saw them at some crappy pub gig 5 years ago, they'll remember you from it and come up and talk to you and ask how you're going.  I'm pretty sure part of the reason they went on to play Wacken and support Motorhead etc is just because you come away from talking to those guys thinking "shit, what a great bunch of dudes, I hope good shit happens to them".