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Title: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on August 24, 2011, 11:02:54 AM
I've been gassing for a Mutron III for a while (probably ever since I first heard Dragonaut) and just missed a chance to snag one for $150 on Talkbass. I'm starting to think that was my last chance to get one for a decent price at all.

This has made me really think about a Proton. These are supposed to be an improvement, but I like the huge volume spike and big funky box, to me it's all part of the vintage mojo of the pedal.
Anyway, heres a video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_5IMP_8kO0

Please, someone talk me out of it or even better help me find a legit Mutron for a good price.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on August 24, 2011, 01:17:39 PM
So someone emailed me about my "WTB Mutron" CL add. Hoping this pans out.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 24, 2011, 02:31:06 PM
http://neworleans.craigslist.org/msg/2544034459.html (http://neworleans.craigslist.org/msg/2544034459.html)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=300581079790&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=300581079790&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=230660030734&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=230660030734&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=260836346993&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=260836346993&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss)

http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/msg/2552764847.html (http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/msg/2552764847.html)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=170684861497&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10005&campid=5335825998&customid=1&icep_item=170684861497&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=rss)

Sorry if some of the links are out of date :-[
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Lumpy on August 24, 2011, 03:57:33 PM
There's a Mutron on "Dragonaut? ???
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 24, 2011, 04:26:14 PM


Check the video ???
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 24, 2011, 04:49:10 PM
5:03 til end. I'm buying one, now, actually.


the EHX Qtron does it, too..
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: bitter on August 24, 2011, 05:03:33 PM
I always read it online that Al used a ehx bassballs??? Not trying to debate it or anything, just curious. 
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 24, 2011, 05:07:32 PM
because you can buy a PCB for $18 and build your own?

(http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/c61f6625cac69ef1ca50a1d2d77bb63c.jpg)

I don't think you really want to be talked out of it, do you?
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 24, 2011, 05:19:21 PM

NVM, buying this.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 24, 2011, 05:27:18 PM
Also Behringer Filter Machine $49, Line 6 Otto Filter $69.

(http://www.backalleymusic.co.uk/contents/media/line%206%20otto%20filter%20pedal.jpg)(http://static.bhphotovideo.com/images/images345x345/497405.jpg)
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on August 24, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
Thanks for all the links.
Forgot to specify the HAZ one won't do. Apparently the Qtron's are closer to the original than those are.
I do have a few Qtron's, one that is AWESOME for bass and definitely does the job. But the Mutron III really is supposed to be the holy grail of filters.
I legitimately do want to be talked out of the Proton, but I think the only way to cure this gas is to get hold of a Mutron.
I wouldn't be opposed to a clone, someone who can build one, HIT ME UP. I'm not trying to spend $200 on a Proton or upwards of $600-something even more ridiculous for an original if I don't have to.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on August 24, 2011, 08:35:00 PM
I've been checking this shit...
http://instrument.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/music.cgi?cat=msg&fil=&itm=mu-tron&state=&ps=&pe=&ys=&ye=&so=d&submit=+GO+
religiously
But there just aren't that many out there, especially not for a "fair" price.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on August 24, 2011, 08:37:54 PM
Quote from: bitter end on August 24, 2011, 05:03:33 PM
I always read it online that Al used a ehx bassballs??? Not trying to debate it or anything, just curious.  

according to talkbass its a Mutron III...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f36/envelope-filter-sleeps-dragonaut-686968/

I could totally see it being a bassballs though, now that I listen to it again. It doesn't sound totally Mutron-y to me anymore, but his may (& probably did) have some issues.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on August 24, 2011, 10:07:55 PM
Found some wiring layouts. Looks like some serious work, definitely nothing I'd be able to make work.
I'm really about to pull the trigger, only 3 of these left...
(http://www.3leafaudio.com/Wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Fromel-Proton-Banner.png)
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on August 24, 2011, 10:16:10 PM
FUCK, did it.
I think I need serious help.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Jake on August 24, 2011, 10:28:07 PM
Whoa. Looks like that Sleep video was uploaded by WhiskeyBucket!

I wonder if it's the same WB? I miss that muthfuck.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: bitter on August 24, 2011, 10:56:11 PM
Quote from: Jake on August 24, 2011, 10:28:07 PM
Whoa. Looks like that Sleep video was uploaded by WhiskeyBucket!

I wonder if it's the same WB? I miss that muthfuck.

It was! I liked that dude. He went AWOL back in like '06 or something.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 24, 2011, 11:09:16 PM
Maybe you can message him via youtube.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 24, 2011, 11:42:16 PM
Has anyone ever seen a version of THAT Sleep video, the long one of a show from like 93/94, that always has a copyright message across it, anyways does anyone have a version where the sound doesn't cut out every few seconds.

Was it ever available commercially?
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Lumpy on August 25, 2011, 12:21:12 AM
I used to have a Mutron Phasor, it's not worth spending 300 dollars on IMO. For one thing, IMO use filters/flangers/phasers with extreme caution, they are super cheesey. The Mutron is hard-wired and it's big. There's tons of other effects you can use for your 30 second "outro" without spending a lot of money, time or trouble. But maybe you have some money burning a hole in your pocket.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Jake on August 26, 2011, 11:08:44 AM
Quote from: Hemisaurus on August 24, 2011, 11:42:16 PM
Has anyone ever seen a version of THAT Sleep video, the long one of a show from like 93/94, that always has a copyright message across it, anyways does anyone have a version where the sound doesn't cut out every few seconds.

Was it ever available commercially?

Are you talking about the balcl & white, super 8 looking video? If so, my friend got an Earache VHS "sampler" type videocassette back when it came out ('93?) that has that Sleep video on it. I don't recall whether it was longer that the youtube version or not though...?
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Hemisaurus on August 26, 2011, 12:14:00 PM
This one http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4080702385303823358 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4080702385303823358) see how annoying that stutter is? I'd love to see a clean copy of that.
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: Lumpy on September 05, 2011, 02:36:10 AM
Here's a Mutron Phasor II for 275

http://www.fenderforum.com/classified.html?ad=29755 (http://www.fenderforum.com/classified.html?ad=29755)
Title: Re: Someone talk me out of buying a 3Leaf Proton pedal
Post by: grimniggzy on September 05, 2011, 07:55:42 AM
nice, those are supposed to sound awesome.
pretty good price compared to a lot that I've seen too.
thanks.