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Title: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 26, 2011, 10:59:31 PM
shitty guitar strings. I can't find a set that I like enough to buy a hundred of so I can stop going to fucking Guitar Center every other day for strings. I've frankenstiened sets, I've bought "specialty" sets, I've tried all kinds of shit. Coated, uncoated, colored, thicker gauge, lighter gauge. Nothing sounds good in B, too floppy, not clear enough.

I just ordered a bunch of different shit from juststrings.com, I'm going to go through all of them and see if I find any I like.

.68 -.14 Baritone strings are my prediction for what I'm going to end up wanting. I've got the top 6 of a 7 string set on all of my guitars, right now, and they play like shit, and sound like shit. Fucking sucks. I'm frustrated.
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Post by: dogfood on July 26, 2011, 11:40:17 PM
tuned down to B?  as in "B"ass?   ;D
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Post by: spookstrickland on July 27, 2011, 12:04:48 AM
When I tune to B or Drop A I like Daddario Chrome Flats 12 to 52 they have been awesome!
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Post by: clockwork green on July 27, 2011, 02:44:54 AM
I've been using D'Addario 14-68's for nearly 10 years in a standard B tuning and I love them. I'll go months without changing them, I can't do that with smaller strings. I was starting to think that I wasn't that picky about strings anymore till I started experimenting with other strings and I just hated their tone. The D'Addario's aren't for everyone but I think there is a good chance they'll work out for you.
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Post by: yesca on July 27, 2011, 04:31:29 AM
try bass strings dude! i was rocking a bass string on my low E string playing in B and it lasted me like 2 months compared to my usual 1-2 weeks(if im lucky) with the d addario strings i buy.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on July 27, 2011, 08:38:02 AM
Long as they give me the desired clarity, im down for them.
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Post by: mortlock on July 27, 2011, 08:50:05 AM
ive always like d'addario string on my bass. im using medium guage flat wounds now and they have been great. ive used an upright bass bow on them many times with rosin and they still sound great, maybe even better..i think the rosin is the secret..
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Post by: Jake on July 27, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
I have no other insight besides the fact that I love juststrings.com (http://juststrings.com) and buy strings exclusively from them now.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on July 27, 2011, 10:41:15 AM
Mortin, bowing the bass sounds half-assed authentic? I have a beater bass i am considering repurposing as a bowed instrument exclusively. It is fretless, also. In othee news, i am cutting the bright cap out of my jcm800.
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Post by: Worthless Willie on July 27, 2011, 12:24:25 PM
Clipping that brite cap is an excellent move.  I did it on my '81, and it made all the difference.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: RacerX on July 27, 2011, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: Jake on July 27, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
I have no other insight besides the fact that I love juststrings.com (http://juststrings.com) and buy strings exclusively from them now.

Word. Except I wish they'd stop giving me those crappy picks every time I buy something there. Those things are useless.
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Post by: Pundan on July 27, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
Quote from: Jake on July 27, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
I have no other insight besides the fact that I love juststrings.com (http://juststrings.com) and buy strings exclusively from them now.

If people wouldn't have talked about that site here, I'd thought "Woah! That's some spam site or it hasn't been redesigned since HTML was invented".
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Post by: LogicalFrank on July 27, 2011, 01:58:03 PM
I am a Webstrings guy myself. They are cheap and they don't break any more often than I'd like them to. I like a string to break every now and again. You gotta think on your feet. If you can't finish a song w/ a broken string, well, that song is stupid and so is your mom.
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Post by: clockwork green on July 27, 2011, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: RacerX on July 27, 2011, 12:32:01 PM
Quote from: Jake on July 27, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
I have no other insight besides the fact that I love juststrings.com (http://juststrings.com) and buy strings exclusively from them now.

Word. Except I wish they'd stop giving me those crappy picks every time I buy something there. Those things are useless.
Those things suck...either just skip them or spend the extra nickel for something decent. The only good free pics I've ever gotten were from Dr. Scientist pedals. Lots of shapes, colors and a cool logo.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: mortlock on July 27, 2011, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 27, 2011, 10:41:15 AM
Mortin, bowing the bass sounds half-assed authentic? I have a beater bass i am considering repurposing as a bowed instrument exclusively. It is fretless, also. In othee news, i am cutting the bright cap out of my jcm800.
it really does but you're limited at what you can do. since there isnt a curved fretboard like on an upright its hard to attack the strings properly. i run my bass through a bunch of fx and bow it. i can make some pretty cool whale sounds.

i was shredding bow hairs for awhile until i got smart and switched from rounds to flats and started to use rosin.
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Post by: blackkrosses on July 29, 2011, 06:17:59 PM
Tried the Dunlop "heavy-cores"? I don't use them but they are supposed to have a thicker core for more clarity in low tunings. I know they make them in 12's, not sure if that is the heaviest though.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: Worthless Willie on July 30, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: Jake on July 27, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
I have no other insight besides the fact that I love juststrings.com (http://juststrings.com) and buy strings exclusively from them now.

Do you buy the name brand sets, or the juststrings strings?
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: VOLVO))) on July 30, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
68-14, unmatched clarity, a lot to grab, sounds kickass with fuzz, distortion, overdrive, and most of all, in open A, clean... it's awesome.


fuck yeahhh. Had to file out a few nuts, my tele and SBG200.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: Jake on July 31, 2011, 07:46:14 PM
Quote from: Worthless Willie on July 30, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
Quote from: Jake on July 27, 2011, 10:26:57 AM
I have no other insight besides the fact that I love juststrings.com (http://juststrings.com) and buy strings exclusively from them now.

Do you buy the name brand sets, or the juststrings strings?

Earnie Ball Skinny Top Heavy Bottom
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: blackkrosses on August 05, 2011, 07:56:34 PM
Quote from: SunnO))) on July 30, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
68-14, unmatched clarity, a lot to grab, sounds kickass with fuzz, distortion, overdrive, and most of all, in open A, clean... it's awesome.


fuck yeahhh. Had to file out a few nuts, my tele and SBG200.


14's on a tele. Day-um. What a mighty grip you must have. Though, I suppose you're down tuned.....still...
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: VOLVO))) on August 05, 2011, 09:44:08 PM
I haven't played a guitar with anything under 12's in forever... I'd probably bend two steps when meaning to bend one..
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Post by: The Riffer on August 06, 2011, 04:36:34 PM
Quote from: blackkrosses on July 29, 2011, 06:17:59 PM
Tried the Dunlop "heavy-cores"? I don't use them but they are supposed to have a thicker core for more clarity in low tunings. I know they make them in 12's, not sure if that is the heaviest though.
I use these, tune B standard on an LP. Best I've found yet.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 05, 2015, 08:07:08 PM
Speaking of coated strings, do any of you like any brands besides Elixir? They don't make anything between 56 and 68 and I'm looking for something around 60. I want to go a little thicker but hate string squeak and changing strings often which is what I read you have to do with coated strings that aren't Elixirs.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: Metal and Beer on January 05, 2015, 08:31:21 PM
From the You Ain't Gonna Wanna Hear This dept:  All* steel strings are the fucking same. Look elsewhere to solve your dilemma, grasshopper.

* In my long experience. LOLpinions ! Anecdotes ! LOLs!


Hey, it's Logical Frank !
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 05, 2015, 08:57:04 PM
Elixir Nanowebs squeak a lot less than nickel plated strings. They sound darker but I'm okay with that.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on January 05, 2015, 10:35:14 PM
I don't even notice squeak. Never. Get more calluses.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 05, 2015, 11:24:58 PM
I've got what I've got.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on January 05, 2015, 11:50:23 PM
I used to do the superglue trick
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Post by: spookstrickland on January 06, 2015, 03:44:52 AM
I'm running a Flatwound 12 - 52 set on the bottom three now and a round wound 10's on the top, I'm really liking it. 
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Post by: jibberish on January 06, 2015, 07:47:43 AM
the ridiculous packaging that comes with everything.   I have a small mountain of cardboard collected up for the recycle place just from that shit.

all the oddball plastic, Styrofoam and tie-wraps makes another nice pile too. what a waste.
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Post by: Chest Rockwell on January 06, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
you guys and your girlie strings  ;D

(http://media.musiciansfriend.com/is/image/MMGS7/H3045-Heavy-Gauge-Bass-Boomers-Bass-Strings/100554000000000-00-750x750.jpg)

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Post by: Jake on January 06, 2015, 11:52:12 AM
It's like you're playing with tooth floss. My bass has a .180 on it. Guitar has a .072.
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Post by: The Shocker on January 06, 2015, 12:20:08 PM
I like flatwounds.  Real mellow.
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Post by: RacerX on January 06, 2015, 12:26:32 PM
And they last for a long, long, long time.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on January 06, 2015, 12:39:17 PM
They slow me down too much. Rubbery isn't cool.
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Post by: Chest Rockwell on January 06, 2015, 01:49:50 PM
Quote from: Jake on January 06, 2015, 11:52:12 AM
It's like you're playing with tooth floss. My bass has a .180 on it. Guitar has a .072.

guitars are for girls. more info on the bass.
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Post by: RAGER on January 06, 2015, 01:56:17 PM
Much of the things that are complained about here I either never experience, have a work around, or just plain ignore.  Not sure what my point is..

But on the flatwound thing.  Can you even do decent bend?  I guess they're ok if you just strum.
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Post by: VOLVO))) on January 06, 2015, 02:17:34 PM
Sort. They're booty for actually playing unless you want a dull clean tone, and a dull dirty tone. Some people go for that.

String noise? Meh, don't ever notice it.
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Post by: RacerX on January 06, 2015, 02:41:23 PM
I get a lot more string noise from my acoustic & resonator guitars.

Electrics? Not so much.
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Post by: liquidsmoke on January 07, 2015, 02:05:24 AM
I had a set of flats on my old SG about 10 years back. Cool sound but too dark and this was around the time I literally had a blanket over my cab for awhile :D
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Post by: spookstrickland on January 07, 2015, 03:30:49 AM
Flats are what I like but I've always liked things very dark and muddy.
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Post by: jibberish on January 07, 2015, 04:30:20 PM
I tried flatwounds once to get rid of string squeak.  they were dead and lifeless. worse than the squeaks so I got rid of them.
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Post by: Jor el on January 07, 2015, 04:38:37 PM

I buy the pre-boiled.
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Post by: RAGER on January 07, 2015, 04:46:43 PM
Of course.
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Post by: Jake on January 07, 2015, 10:42:21 PM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell on January 06, 2015, 01:49:50 PM
guitars are for girls. more info on the bass.

This thing makes poop involuntarily happen.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k32/jakeh_02/P1090618_zpsa688eac0.jpg)
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Post by: liquidsmoke on January 07, 2015, 11:11:41 PM
^ Double E string??

edit: that doesn't make sense but the light makes it look like 2. It's certainly huge.
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Post by: mortlock on January 07, 2015, 11:23:00 PM
how does heavier gage strings affect the neck?? I assume the heavier = more tension??
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Post by: liquidsmoke on January 08, 2015, 12:49:52 AM
Quote from: mortlock on January 07, 2015, 11:23:00 PM
how does heavier gage strings affect the neck?? I assume the heavier = more tension??

Yes assuming you stay in the same tuning. A truss rod adjustment is sometimes necessary.
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Post by: Dylan Thomas on January 08, 2015, 11:25:54 AM
Quote from: blackkrosses on July 29, 2011, 06:17:59 PM
Tried the Dunlop "heavy-cores"? I don't use them but they are supposed to have a thicker core for more clarity in low tunings. I know they make them in 12's, not sure if that is the heaviest though.


I'll have to check these out, I use 12's for low tuning (A#), I use a D'Addario with a wound G string.  I love the wound G string, and even when I tune down to C, I use an 11-49 set with a wound G string.


Todd, the guitarist from Warhorse, used to use 11-49 strings, tuned down to G.  Figure that one out....

I don't like to go heavier than 12's, so I will check out those Dunlops for sure.
Title: Re: I'm so fucking sick of...
Post by: liquidsmoke on January 08, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on January 08, 2015, 11:25:54 AM
Todd, the guitarist from Warhorse, used to use 11-49 strings, tuned down to G.  Figure that one out....

I have a hard time believing this. Some cool tones can be had when your strings are super floppy but sustain is generally very weak and it's hard to get and stay in tune for a whole song. I use a 68 for the F# string on my 27" scale baritone and even that is kind of floppy to the point where I have to be careful not to press it too hard when fretting or I'll sound out of tune.
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Post by: Dylan Thomas on January 08, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: liquidsmoke on January 08, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
Quote from: Dylan Thomas on January 08, 2015, 11:25:54 AM
Todd, the guitarist from Warhorse, used to use 11-49 strings, tuned down to G.  Figure that one out....

I have a hard time believing this. Some cool tones can be had when your strings are super floppy but sustain is generally very weak and it's hard to get and stay in tune for a whole song. I use a 68 for the F# string on my 27" scale baritone and even that is kind of floppy to the point where I have to be careful not to press it too hard when fretting or I'll sound out of tune.


This was what he actually told me, and live, he bent the crap out of notes and such.

He also used a small, Crate solid state amp for recording As Heaven Turns To Ash.
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Post by: RAGER on January 08, 2015, 01:35:52 PM
Been using Beefy Slinky's for about the last 8 years.  But I get into ruts where I get used to something and stick with it.  Been using the same old dumb guitars and the same big old dumb amps forever too though. ;)
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Post by: fallen on January 08, 2015, 11:23:36 PM
Ever since SRV I've been hearing people brag about string gauges. Whatever it is someone will take it to extremes. To each his own but bragging about it is a bit silly. 16-72 in C standard bra.

The worst recent trend is this quest for "clarity". Some guitars are sounding like a Lars Urlrich bass drum. All pick attack and no meat. Just as scooped as the 90s but just at a different frequency to go with the lower tunings.

Are they going to start putting tweeters on guitar cabs so you can get that ice pick clarity on your low F string on your 29" scale 9 string guitar. Yuk.

I guess some people are already running full range cabs with their fractals so any tone is possible. Bad and good.
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Post by: Jake on January 08, 2015, 11:38:41 PM
It's sometimes hard to tell sarcasm over the internets, but I'm fairly certain that no one is actually bragging about their sting gauges.
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Post by: lordfinesse on January 09, 2015, 12:47:39 AM
Haha... tweeters in guitar cabs. Up next, treble drops to go with all those bass drops.
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Post by: fallen on January 09, 2015, 12:49:21 AM
Maybe not in here but I've seen it. Whatever makes it possible to make the music in your head is cool with me.

In bike riding there has been some crazy extremes, fixed gear riders chopping their bars down to under a foot wide while MTBers run bars up to 32" wide or more. Extremes in either direction and no one's shoulders are getting any wider or narrower overnight.

Same with guitars. Some people with light strings and super low action, some people running super huge strings, some people in the middle.

I learned on 10s in E standard. So now I'm stuck at that tension. 13s in B or whatever feels not too tight with a bit of mush but not too much twang.

Edit: sometimes I'll go even lighter if recording something to get that Doppler-like bloom that you get on down tuned guitars because I like that sound. Just like a low tuned bass drum or floor tom when you hit it really hard.
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Post by: spookstrickland on January 09, 2015, 03:03:22 PM
I think if you are having a string flapping problem you could be picking too hard.   I've had to soften up my pick attack over the years and I actually really like it now.