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Title: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: chille01 on July 04, 2011, 10:46:02 PM
What's the verdict?  I hear "poor man's Plexi" a lot, which is also what my Traynor YBA-1 is supposed to be.  If I happened to have a line on a Mig 50 for $450 CND asking, with all the cheap plastic pots and jacks already swapped out - am I gaining anything drastic or different over the Traynor?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: Slow on July 04, 2011, 11:33:04 PM
The Canadian dollar is currently fucking up the dollar No?

450 is steep for a mig. 300 is the sweet spot for those.


The Mig50 is more the "Angry Bassman" than a plexi..
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: Mike_Sims on July 05, 2011, 01:57:13 AM
My buddy has one. I've never played a real vintage plexi, but the Migs (older ones) sound pretty f'n good!
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: Baltar on July 05, 2011, 07:44:34 AM
I had a 50, it was closer to a Bassman.  Jor el has the 60, and it has the 34's in it and is more like an 800 than a true Plexi.  The 100's are more like a Marshall too.  My buddy in Detroit has a Traynor YVM-1, Voice Master and he had one of the channels modded to a Plexi circuit, one like a Fender, Vox, etc.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: Slow on July 05, 2011, 10:37:58 AM
The 100H, 100, and 100B are pretty much modeled after each respective version of the JCM800... 100B is The Bass 800, 100 is JCM800 etc...

100H is the hotrod...
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: Jake on July 05, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
I've had a MiG100H, and MiG60, and a JCM800.

Honestly, they're all very, very different sounding amps.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: blackkrosses on July 05, 2011, 07:11:16 PM
Channel (input) 1 is dark, LIKE a bassman. Channel (input) 2 is brighter LIKE a plexi. Keep in mind the average plexi is running el34 tubes and are brighter (bitier?) than the 6l6's (or 5881's) the Sovtek comes with.  If you run a y-splitter into both (or an ab/y box) and blend the channels you get really killer tones. But they do tend to oscillate when cranked. I like the squeal though.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: Baltar on July 05, 2011, 09:22:38 PM
Mine had 5881's.  Plates were too hot for the 6V6's.  But you nailed it.  Channel 2 did have more gain and was brighter.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: spookstrickland on July 06, 2011, 01:07:03 AM
I played a Mig100 years ago and it was loud as fuck and had some sweet distortion tones.  I should have bought it but I was searching for a Marshall at the time.  I still regret not buying it.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: doomhawk on July 06, 2011, 03:54:23 PM
your Traynor yba-1 will smoke a Mig 50 any day.  i have had both, still have one of my YBA's and considering your canadian roots... besides you can get a real bassman for 450, without having to upgrade it.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: LogicalFrank on July 06, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
Kind of depends what you mean by "real Bassman." Silverface bassmen are considered to be of questionable pedigree at best by Fender aficionados. Not being a Fender affecianado myself, I do like my silverface Bassman quite a lot but its sound is not even remotely on planet plexi to be honest.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: doomhawk on July 06, 2011, 04:39:38 PM
"real bassman for 450" - as in Fender AB165 bassman - blackface and silverface.  superior parts, quality and reliability in most cases.  mig 50's sound nothing like plexi's either.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: black_out on July 06, 2011, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: doomhawk on July 06, 2011, 03:54:23 PM
your Traynor yba-1 will smoke a Mig 50 any day.  i have had both, still have one of my YBA's and considering your canadian roots... besides you can get a real bassman for 450, without having to upgrade it.

Let me know when you stumble across one of those $450 bassman....anymore they seem to be going for more like $700 around these parts.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: doomhawk on July 06, 2011, 07:45:10 PM
here one for 425

http://tucson.craigslist.org/msg/2478735711.html

heres one that need work for 300

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/msg/2479660585.html
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: blackkrosses on July 08, 2011, 07:26:26 PM
I see silverface bassmans go for $400 all day long.

The blackfaces with break up quicker.

The trouble with bassmans are the 4ohm impedence, if you call that trouble.
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: Hemisaurus on July 08, 2011, 07:29:04 PM
Quote from: blackkrosses on July 08, 2011, 07:26:26 PM
The trouble with bassmans are the 4ohm impedence, if you call that trouble.
(https://taweber.powweb.com/store/wzc50.jpg)
Impedance matching transformer - $30
Title: Re: Sovtek Mig 50
Post by: blackkrosses on July 09, 2011, 04:43:46 PM
Problem solved.

$430 dollars.

And you can have the silverfaces converted back to blackface specs.