Just for fun, what's the worst pedal you've got in your arsenal? Doesn't have to be on your pedal board at the moment.
I believe mine is an Ibanez FZ7-Fuzz I bought a couple of years ago, I just can't seem to find a usage for it.
EDIT: Also that horrible Behringer V-Amp2 I bought just to make shitty recordings with also suck pretty bad along with the Behringer UC-100 Chorus that I broke by just stomping on it.
everything ive owned made by digitech..
um . . . arion distortion pedal. it sounded crazy bad. but i strangely liked it for messing around with at low volumes.
also, i will say ANY boss distortion pedal. there just isn't enough volume in it for me.
I would say the new Bass Big Muff....Since mine lasted like 3 months of very light use before breaking. It sounded nice but I expect longer then 3 months for $90 or whatever it cost.
Boss ODB3.
I have a DOD Grunge Pedal. The model that has butt and face knobs. I would describe it as awefulsome.
Quote from: LogicalFrank on June 30, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
I have a DOD Grunge Pedal. The model that has butt and face knobs. I would describe it as awefulsome.
I concur. Next worst is the Boss Metal Zone. I purchased both at the same time for $40 from a chirstian musician.
Metal zone by a mile.
(http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/BossDS-1Big.jpg)
Quote from: Hemisaurus on June 30, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
(http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/BossDS-1Big.jpg)
this one can be fixed... the metalzone is a nice paper weight in comparison.
You can Keeley the MetalZone if you so desire.
Yeah, but it doesn't make it any more usable...
Worse than the Metal Zone is the Hyper Metal. To be fair though, I had the Hyper Fuzz for like ten years and always thought it was awfulsome but then I heard it was the E Wiz tone in a box and I was like, "Huh. I'll be damned."
Quote from: LogicalFrank on June 30, 2011, 01:46:28 PM
Worse than the Metal Zone is the Hyper Metal. To be fair though, I had the Hyper Fuzz for like ten years and always thought it was awfulsome but then I heard it was the E Wiz tone in a box and I was like, "Huh. I'll be damned."
The Hyper Fuzz has to be the FZ2 not the FZ5 or whatever. They sound comletely different.
Mine is the FZ-2. I always kind of liked it just because the fuzz was so over the top. We used to complain that it was so much distortion you couldn't tell what chord you were playing. Of course, in those days we set the gain on ten and that was that...
The DS-1 is a bucket full of ass for guitar distortion, but it actually sounds pretty good on bass. I definitely wouldn't encourage anyone to buy it, but if someone throws it through your window with a threatening note attached (and a battery already in it) it could be worth keeping.
My JHS wah ;D Got it when I was 10, it has the shortest sweep of any wah ever and is so noisy it is unbelievable.
I've used DS-1's for worse things. A while back there was a bad batch, right when they went to 29 bucks, and guitar center sold a thousand of them, or something, just in my po-dunk town. Only a few survived, and since I'm one of the two people in town that is patient enough to repair pedals, I ended up with a box of unrepairable DS-1s. I mean, probably 20 of them. I gutted 10 or so, and kept the boxes, and made various toys out of them. The other 10 were shotgun fodder, "Why the fuck is THIS here" items, you know, a DS-1 sitting in a bathroom stall in a town in Alabama has to make a guy think, you know?
Used one for a weight on a bush-hook... (for those of you who aren't redneck-fucked out of your mind, bush-hooking is a form of fishing where you tie off a length of paracord with cut bait, and a hook, to a tree and let it rest. Catfish will nail it, catch themselves, you harvest, and reset.)
Fun times. I salvaged all the useful shit.
Funny. I thought my DS-1 was my worst pedal, so replaced & I flipped it.
After 4 or 5 goes at a "repacement," I now have another one.
Quote from: Corey Y on June 30, 2011, 02:19:18 PM
The DS-1 is a bucket full of ass for guitar distortion, but it actually sounds pretty good on bass. I definitely wouldn't encourage anyone to buy it, but if someone throws it through your window with a threatening note attached (and a battery already in it) it could be worth keeping.
I concur. It was my preferred disto pedal over the ODB3, Big Muff, and Bass Blowtorch for a while, but I have my Garmopat Vox V8-30 & Mole now and it destroys.
It's my DS-1. I used to like it, but it just isn't cutting it anymore.
Quote from: Corey Y on June 30, 2011, 02:19:18 PM
The DS-1 is a bucket full of ass for guitar distortion, but it actually sounds pretty good on bass. I definitely wouldn't encourage anyone to buy it, but if someone throws it through your window with a threatening note attached (and a battery already in it) it could be worth keeping.
I don't like it on bass, I probably wouldn't like it on guitar either ;)
Oddly enough, this is sorta how I got it, I was wanting another pedal, and this guy wanted to sell as a set, so for a pedal that costs $110 new, I paid I think $60-70 and got it, the DS-1 and 3 or 4 other pedals, a couple of which I knew needed work.
I have a japanese DS1, its decent, but never gets used. Theres too many other vintage peices Id go to first.
I think in general the worst idea for a pedal is to try and make it 'sound' like a certain style of music. These would include nearly ALL the "metal" pedals.they all sound like ass to me even the HEAVY Metal from Boss that others seem to love, to me it sounds like crud. The grunge pedal...a pedal that sounds like grunge? cmon dude.
Oh and ...i have a Boss "Xtortion" pedal. They are semi rare as they were discontinued rather quickly after release.
That is one awful sounding pedal.
I like those Metal Muffs but only tried 'em in stores. Actually, I've only tried the nano version but I tried it right by a Metal Zone and a Heavy Metal and thought it was much more natural sounding.
yeah, thats probabloy too broad a statement, i was reaching there I guess. ..im sure there are notable exceptions. S. Duncans Metal Mayhem, The metakl muff, zvex box of metal (is it any good? I wouldnt know) The Blues Driver isnt a horrible pedal yet it attempts to sound like a style of music.
nevermind what i said above.
i too am not a fan of the DS-1. had an OG got rid of it, bought a modded one (warmer supposedly) still sounds like shit and it has a BLINDING green led that makes it impossible to see the controls on stage.
they can be modded to sound like an SD-1 which is an awesome simple overdrive but why bother, SD-1's are 25 bucks all day long
DOD Supra Distortion.
If you keep the Gain below 10, it can be useable. But not good.
Quote from: Lumpy on June 30, 2011, 06:56:09 PM
DOD Supra Distortion.
If you keep the Gain below 10, it can be useable. But not good.
I've heard they're good for noise, but I've never tried it.
Quote from: DISCÖ VANDERSLÖÖT on June 30, 2011, 07:09:53 PM
Quote from: Lumpy on June 30, 2011, 06:56:09 PM
DOD Supra Distortion.
If you keep the Gain below 10, it can be useable. But not good.
I've heard they're good for noise, but I've never tried it.
Lots of stuff is good for noise though. No reason to seek this one out. Anything you can buy for 10-15 bucks is worth trying though.
I should try my Bazz Fuss for noise, I need to box it up first though. I should also thank Spook for turning me on to it.
Bazz Fuss (http://dub.greboguru.org/nb.mp3)
EHX - nano clone
Yeah, the metal muffs r teh stuff! My worst pedal is my lm-308 rat. My Butcher hates it while my valve Jr loves it.
Quote from: nonoman on June 30, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
Yeah, the metal muffs r teh stuff! My worst pedal is my lm-308 rat. My Butcher hates it while my valve Jr loves it.
That's a whole other thread, the worst pedal that you love. All my pedals are shitty, and I love 'em. I got a Dano, a couple of Behringers, and an Arion, and a Boss.
In my youth I purchased (at full price...and I think the sticker is still on the untouched pedal) DOD octave shifter. Oddly it shifts nothing. Nada. Some pedals are mountainous piles of asstone but DOD managed to achieve pure no effect with this $70 red herring. They should get an invisible trophy for this one.
Quote from: dogfood on June 30, 2011, 11:07:03 PM
In my youth I purchased (at full price...and I think the sticker is still on the untouched pedal) DOD octave shifter. Oddly it shifts nothing. Nada. Some pedals are mountainous piles of asstone but DOD managed to achieve pure no effect with this $70 red herring. They should get an invisible trophy for this one.
Did you think to compare it against one that was working ;D
I had a Boss DM-2 Dimension that was useless, and a Digitech Grunge from the 90s that sucked. Both were pretty shitty.
found a video of the Boss DS-1 on youtube...
Dear Hemi,
You fucking comedian, send me your address and I'll send this fucker to you postage due.
Your truly,
dogfood
sounds like a deal to me, ask Slow for it ;)
Quote from: Hemisaurus on June 30, 2011, 11:54:38 PM
sounds like a deal to me, ask Slow for it ;)
At least I ADMIT I'm a shitbag for not sending you that amp, yet. Don't worry, I plan to sit on Dean's Lucy for another six years hahaha.
Seriously, though.
I want an octave pedal that doesn't octave, is it true bypass? will it do the Dopesmoker tone?
Send me your address again, Herb, the original one had no real name on it. hahaha.
My Dano Octave pedal. It actually stops producing the octave if you let the note ring out too long. Close second was my Arion Digital Delay.
Quote from: zachoff on June 30, 2011, 12:00:19 PM
Boss ODB3.
You know I used to think that about mine but did a bunch of reading and the high/low EQ adjustment cuts out your mids apparently. If you leave them both flat and take some time with it its not bad. Or you can use an EQ pedal with it and its not bad.
Personally I have yet to find a bass distortion I am satisfied with.
Quote from: Ignoramus on June 30, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
I had a Boss DM-2 Dimension that was useless, and a Digitech Grunge from the 90s that sucked. Both were pretty shitty.
Its good for something now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSS-DC-2-Dimension-C-Mint-W-All-Japan-Vintage-98U18-/110695821346?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item19c5fc3022 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSS-DC-2-Dimension-C-Mint-W-All-Japan-Vintage-98U18-/110695821346?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item19c5fc3022)
Quote from: Chovie D on July 01, 2011, 11:30:26 AM
Quote from: Ignoramus on June 30, 2011, 11:13:27 PM
I had a Boss DM-2 Dimension that was useless, and a Digitech Grunge from the 90s that sucked. Both were pretty shitty.
Its good for something now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSS-DC-2-Dimension-C-Mint-W-All-Japan-Vintage-98U18-/110695821346?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item19c5fc3022 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BOSS-DC-2-Dimension-C-Mint-W-All-Japan-Vintage-98U18-/110695821346?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item19c5fc3022)
I have the Behringer clone. It sounds nice through headphones but my guitar player borrowed it, and it sounds kinda lousy through an amp... not subtle at all. Instead of 'airy' it was 80s hair metal. And there's no knobs so no way to adjust it.
DOD stereo flanger. Makes everything sound tinny and thin, like I'm playing inside a beer can. It also only has 1 output, not sure how the whole stereo thing works like that.
I only paid $5 though...
ha, I've got a metal zone that I modded. It's pretty cool for some stuff, and metal as fuck. The eq just isnt very good, but it has the right knobs. So it makes it kinda disappointing. My worst is a DOD fx91 bass overdrive that a friend gave me. A completely useless pedal.
I think I'm starting a home for unloved pedals :)
You oughta clone me a meathead, with a dark switch...
How about a Meatbox instead :)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/guitarpkr76/PICT0828.jpg)
Quote from: Hemisaurus on June 30, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
(http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/BossDS-1Big.jpg)
^that right there. i totally would be lost without my old trusty HM-2, so i treid a couple of those..got them for $20 each. you can run one through the other..that still sucked though.. i gave one of them away to my nephew just starting out playing but i still have the other. garbage. i have a really cheap pedal that is sooo nasty, i like it heh
If you could build an affordable Meatbox clone, you could make a few bucks... they sell for around 100 bucks (sometimes more, sometimes less)
Quote from: Lumpy on July 04, 2011, 06:00:45 PM
If you could build an affordable Meatbox clone, you could make a few bucks... they sell for around 100 bucks (sometimes more, sometimes less)
Not interested right now, but give it a year, looks like my shop will be going completely Windows, and they won't have any place for me. Then I may turn to amp repair and amp / pedal building as a way to make pin money. ;)
all of these CAN'T be worse than the metal master I use to own... no way...
Quote from: Mike_Sims on July 05, 2011, 01:58:58 AM
all of these CAN'T be worse than the metal master I use to own... no way...
ahhhh....the arion metal master....i had one as well...sucked.
Quote from: kirky on July 05, 2011, 02:17:38 AM
Quote from: Mike_Sims on July 05, 2011, 01:58:58 AM
all of these CAN'T be worse than the metal master I use to own... no way...
ahhhh....the arion metal master....i had one as well...sucked.
did you get the free t-shirt with it that said "i am the metal master"? anyone remember those in the early 90s?
My worst pedal is my NYC Big Muff. I don't know why I keep it.
I keep all my crappy pedals because fifty or a hundred bucks is not worth the hassle of selling shit. Making decent money makes me lazy.
That.
DOD grunge at low volume at home can be a bit fun!
I'll never get rid of shit pedals because you never know what you might record with one.
Shit pedals buried beneath thick drones can add certain flavor.
Ernie Ball volume pedal. I hate it, it has so much potential, but the string broke and was a giant ballache to replace, then the pot was fuck anyway. And the guy who gave it to me to fix never collected it, so I spend frustrating hours for nothing.
i had a BOSS Hyper Metal pedal that did'nt even work.
i also had a BOSS Digital Delay but that was alot of fun. still mad i lost that to the pawn shop.
"Shit pedals buried beneath thick drones can add certain flavor."
so true..i love my crappy pedals..except the digitech shit..but they sound like ass anyhow..
I'm not going to diss any brand, the reverbs on those Digitech combi pedals, you know the RP and BP series is excellent.
that may be so. but its not so much the sound as it is the way they chow 9v batteries..
Quote from: dogfood on June 30, 2011, 11:53:38 PM
Dear Hemi,
You fucking comedian, send me your address and I'll send this fucker to you postage due.
Your truly,
dogfood
I find that post to be humorous.
I do, too Mike_T. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I also used to have an Ibanez Classic Metal soundtank distortion that was actually good,at least way better than that BOSS DS-1.
I actually love that Jimi Hendrix brand Crybaby wah too. at first I thought it did'nt sound too great but it grew on me. Not as good as the Tycobrahe wah-wah's tho.
Quote from: isabellacat on July 07, 2011, 02:16:45 AM
I also used to have an Ibanez Classic Metal soundtank distortion that was actually good,at least way better than that BOSS DS-1.
I actually love that Jimi Hendrix brand Crybaby wah too. at first I thought it did'nt sound too great but it grew on me. Not as good as the Tycobrahe wah-wah's tho.
didn't the classic metal pedal have the same chip as a tube screamer or something?
MOOG EP-1 Expression pedal
$25, all plastic, cheap pots, and easy to break strings. ::)
They've since replaced it with the beefed up EP-2, but they're not problem free either.
Quote from: justinhedrick on July 07, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: isabellacat on July 07, 2011, 02:16:45 AM
I also used to have an Ibanez Classic Metal soundtank distortion that was actually good,at least way better than that BOSS DS-1.
I actually love that Jimi Hendrix brand Crybaby wah too. at first I thought it did'nt sound too great but it grew on me. Not as good as the Tycobrahe wah-wah's tho.
didn't the classic metal pedal have the same chip as a tube screamer or something?
So look up the schematic :-[
http://www.dirk-hendrik.com/classic_metal.pdf (http://www.dirk-hendrik.com/classic_metal.pdf)
I want that Metal Master shirt, straight up.
When I still had them, the Metal Zone and Dunlop standard Crybaby. Extremely harsh sounding pedals.
The worst one I own right now? Probably Boss SD-1
someone send me a Marshall shredmaster please
Quote from: Instant Dan on July 07, 2011, 12:09:42 PM
When I still had them, the Metal Zone and Dunlop standard Crybaby. Extremely harsh sounding pedals.
The worst one I own right now? Probably Boss SD-1
I always rather liked my Crybaby except for when it was turned off. That pedal is the worst tone sucker I've ever heard.
i'm lucky in that i haven't owned a lot of pedals like that.
i will say that i like my ibanez CF7 BECAUSE it sounds like shit.
i'd have to say my EHX Metal Muff! cant find a good sound thru my Laney AOR. also the only reason i hate my boss dd6 delay is cause right when you plug it in or if the cord moves just a little bit it makes these crackling/popping sounds until i jingle the cord a bit.