Oh man my shoulder hurts, been using a thin strap as of late, big mistake!, not sure if pinched nerves or sore muscle or what but. I'm going back to a really wide strap and maybe adding some padding.
Anyone have any diy tips on adding padding to a strap such as: material, thickness, construction etc?
thanks
I have a dual strap, it is like a backpack http://www.darestrap.com/uses.html
I use a padded bass strap for guitar. My brother bought it in the mid-90s. Probably doesn't look as cool as a thin black leather guitar strap but it is black and leather. I hate thin straps.
I like the wider leather straps.
Staring at your fretting hand can cause that kind of fatigue. look away!
I have a non leather wide single strap for bass that has like squishy gel rubber stuff in it; looks good enough
I figure since my guitarist abilities are really for 30 minute sets that my normal strap is good enuf
one Austin sludge/hardcore band called S.L.U.G. - the bassist/singer just has a stand and his bass is on that, so it is never on his back ever, like a microphone stand. he prolly had a back surgery or something necessitating that tho.
I use a big Levy's 4" extra long leather strap. I think it might actually be the only leather item I own. I used to always use the nylon Ernie Ball straps for a very long time, but a few years ago my left shoulder pretty much just gave out. It mostly doesn't bother me since I started using that very wide strap and playing lighter basses though.
The strap I use on my 12 pound 78 Les Paul is a cushy one I've had since I was 16. That's a long fucking time ago.
I have a big wide strap with a sliding pad like on an old VHS camera bag which weighed a lot for my LP. that guitar needs it.
I could use razor wire for the ultra swede strap heh.
Quote from: Corey Y on August 28, 2014, 11:43:44 AM
I use a big Levy's 4" extra long leather strap. I think it might actually be the only leather item I own. I used to always use the nylon Ernie Ball straps for a very long time, but a few years ago my left shoulder pretty much just gave out. It mostly doesn't bother me since I started using that very wide strap and playing lighter basses though.
That's what I was using a nylon Ernie Ball strap, who would have thought that some thing like that could cause so much trouble!
Quote from: spookstrickland on August 28, 2014, 03:03:42 PM
That's what I was using a nylon Ernie Ball strap, who would have thought that some thing like that could cause so much trouble!
It took me a while to switch, just because it was hard to find a strap long enough. I'm only about 6'1", but I have a really long torso, so most regular straps sit about chest height on me. It's not so bad now that I have a lot less gut, but still.
I find the 3" strap to be perfect. not too wide, not too narrow..
Does everyone else do this?
Go to the guitar store, sift through the hundred (literally) straps with barbed wire, "police line do not cross", nickleback crosses, flames, sparkles, tribal, skulls, find the one plain black one, check to see if it's the "extra long" size, buy it, guitar store reorders more plain black XL straps and buries them in the stack of ugly crap no one wants, repeat.
To Levi straps. Do kids actually buy that cheesy stuff?
I have an awesome levi grommet guitar strap which is my main gig one
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/levys-cotton-grommet-guitar-strap
I dont recommend buying from the Guitar Center selection though; buy online ;)
I bought a memory foam strap pad from Musician's Friend...it does the job, but it slides all over the damn place, so you kinda have to secure it with some fancy black duct tape.
Souldier makes some awesome straps if you wanna spend a little more. On Ebay or on their own website (more selection and customizable options there). Recycled seatbelt material with some really nice fabrics on top (two layers).
Not really on topic but whatever.
ok here is the exact strap I have:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/planet-waves-dare-guitar-strap?source=3WWRWXGP&gclid=CJ_2nOzM88ACFaVZ7AodHloA8w&kwid=productads-plaid^80562583827-sku^360634000001000@ADL4MF-adType^PLA-device^c-adid^51870555867
Its awesome! I had a two hour jam on bass today with 5 other musicians, and I wish I would have brought it. I am telling you its only $15 and it has the perfect design in my opinion, as everything is adjustable.
this strap works for all guitars and basses as I have tried all 6 of mine anyway, and the functionality is just like a regular guitar strap since it does not get in the way of the bassist resting his pick hand on the bass!
This thread is really helpful to me. I've always had some nerve problems in my shoulder from the pinch of the strap, especially when I was using a Firebird. That thing was hell on my shoulder and upper back, as awesome as it looked and as sweet as it sounded.
LP's put a lot less pressure on my shoulder, though now that I've had a really serious shoulder injury, I've gotta really look into getting a better strap. Thanks for all the insights and personal experiences guys and gals, this is really going to help me out. Can't thank you enough, every post in this thread is really appreciated.
cool brutha. walter trout is one of my fav blues players and he endorses my strap since he used it when he was injured: http://www.darestrap.com/wt.html
some other dual straps are available but did not meet my needz, might be worth checking out or considering though:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/slider-straps-dual-shoulder-strap
this gruvgear strap does not work with my thunderbird bass, but it looks killer and I see my favorite bassist/chiropractor endorses it. I bought his book and Dr. K knows what he is talking about for bassists:
http://www.gruvgear.com/duostrap-neo
(http://www.gruvgear.com/images/hdr-duostrap-neo.jpg)
I'm about ready to drill a bunch of holes in the back of my inexpensive baritone to shave off a pound or two because the thing makes my back hurt in ways I've never experienced before. It's not even mahogany. No shoulder problems, just strange mid/lower back pain.
orianthi does sets of 25 pushups because all that guitar playing was crushing her ribcage and she had to do some counter-therapy to revers it
doktor death does sets of toe touches and windmill for lower back strength
liquid is turning into liquid because he does zero exercise. at least focus on therapy for stuff you do that bugs you, like the guitar weight. if you started doing windmills/toe touches or w/e consistently. in 4 weeks you will have new muscle mass and built up endurance to stand as long as you need and stay stout
upright rowing if you have weights. shoveling dirt or mulch is good for lower back too. snow shoveling
muscle tone is the big secret to this whole thread.
Holy shit I dreamed last night about shopping for guitar straps...
It was like The Twilight Zone yo.
Quote from: jibberish on September 22, 2014, 02:22:33 AM
liquid is turning into liquid because he does zero exercise. at least focus on therapy for stuff you do that bugs you, like the guitar weight. if you started doing windmills/toe touches or w/e consistently. in 4 weeks you will have new muscle mass and built up endurance to stand as long as you need and stay stout
upright rowing if you have weights. shoveling dirt or mulch is good for lower back too. snow shoveling
I don't do enough exercise for sure. I have to do some lower back stuff just to get through the days without mild pain and feeling weak. What are windmills and w/e?
dont forget stretching too! I bought the book "5 minutes to a pain free life" and do the stretches almost daily :) better do em nowz before I go to the store
Dr. K's book says if you must do weightlifting, try to avoid the pulling exercises. of course for lower body you can go all out. I weightlift one day a week since I am a cubicle desk jockey. for upper body all I do is bench, military, and reverse pectoral deck. but I also do yoga and swimming and sometimez Zumba, which gives definitely works my back.
I am kinda wondering for shoulders if the shoulder extension machine would help strengthen for where my strap goes. I am thinking just playing more standing up, and not sitting down when playing is best. I did not have any soreness from the guitar strap three years ago. hmm...
Quote from: everdrone on September 22, 2014, 10:34:18 PM
I bought the book "5 minutes to a pain free life"
Will check this out.
edit: do you mean "3 minutes to a pain free life"? It's 320 pages. Is there a pamphlet version?
windmills are like oblique toe touches which is just bending over straight ahead knees not locked. don't bounce so you don't rip anything.
so I do both to get that entire band of muscles. having that bend over strength is so nice for the lower back.
I stretch like crazy every day, especially work my shoulders in every possible direction from when I separated it almost 2 yrs ago. I have 100% motion back from being diligent and not slacking for any reason all this time. I was so scared for months like was I going to be gimped out heh. fuck me running.
ok here is one example, I do mine more straight leg like opposite toe touches, but still never with knees locked.
also, when I start a new exercise, I try a few until I start feeling warmed up or they are getting some difficulty. i'll just do a couple every day for a week just to get myself used to the motion and sort of ready to hit it. then every week add to the total and do that amount for the week. you can sneak up to phenomenal quantities by putting in the time and diligence.
it truly is amazing what just a couple of 2-3 minute rounds of something here and there, but every day can do. i'm falling apart so i'm fighting for real.
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I have been meditating on why old people are so fucked up and fucking delicate. when an old person loses their balance they go down like they were headshot then shatter like a dropped tray of wine glasses. FUCK THAT NOISE
1)they lost leg strength, instead of doing extra to keep springy they only do enough to walk. old people don't jump anymore.
2)balance is shit. old people don't walk on curbs and do little kid balancing stuff anymore. leg strength helps in addition to just still practicing
3)cant shit, chest caving in , guts pouring out, back wasted, hernias. couldn't do a situp to save their life, core is gone GONE
4)cant fall like a little kid. no overall flexibility and muscle tone.
5)vulture necks from hunched over a desk all day, slouched in the car, slouched in the chair. repeat next and every day. they dont stretch.
scary as hell folks. if you need further encouragement, seriously speak with racerx. that's all i got. i am fucking scared and that motivates me, word.
I like Jibberish's approach.
Here is the book "Five minutes to a pain free life": http://www.amazon.com/Minutes-Pain-Free-Life-Groundbreaking-Prevention/dp/0743476476
It worked for me. I read the whole thing. I do it like every other day, I should go for every day though. I recommend this book and loaned the book to others but they never seem to read or buy it.
regardless, like jibberish said, stretch, then work out, then stretch after your workout. dont do pulling exercises that are bad on your fingers, more cardio is better. yoga and swimming get you some strenght. most strength is from playing guitar regularly and slowly increasing the amount you play every day. I have won some battles using this knowledge and other info, but ya I still have some issues so its not like I feel like I am the ultimate guru on musician strength or anything.
Fuck, just take a goddamned Advil if you* can't figure out how to minimize the weight of your shitaxe, GOD!! <----use the Napolean Dynamite whine there at the end.
Use a clothesline rope...NO, kite string.....NO!! Fishing line !!!!!!!
YES!
* Not any "you" in partic-you-lar
^
Word.
I use magnets.
How the fuck do they work? Don't ask me.
what magnets do you use? Therapeutic magnets? if so, what strength magnet do you use and where?
I will admit, I sleep with magnet gloves on: http://www.amazon.com/Meridian-Soothing-Magnet-Therapy-Gloves/dp/B004ZHP6QW and they work well! I sleep with a tennis elbow magnet brace on too. Beer and Metal is gonna love this one, hope it doesn't cook his noodle ;D
HYDROZEEN REFRIGITATOR MAGNENTS.
I have to daringly now ask where you put the magnets ;D ;D
It's pretty straightforward—just swallow a stack & duct tape a stack to the back of the guitar body.
Look ma, no hands!!
You ever fishline you a mamganent down.......you know, THERE ?
;D
Nope, but I do keep a spare geeter stuck to me butthole via the same technology.
Quote from: RacerX on September 23, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
HYDROZEEN REFRIGITATOR MAGNENTS.
I will always laugh my ass off at this. I almost pulled the trigger and ordered some once upon a time..still may. I would love to have one on the fridge. it would cheer me up every day
I wonder if anyone makes a corset of a thousand wraps of fine copper wire. then when you come onto stage, you can just plug in , step on a pedal and your guitar full of magnets leaps off the stand..ka-chunk..you are ready to rock. fuck everyone's watches and phones in the first 3 rows
Okay so you tie fishing line on to a magnet and an oxy and drop them spelunker down into your butthole, got it.
Quote from: jibberish on September 23, 2014, 02:09:49 PM
windmills are like oblique toe touches which is just bending over straight ahead knees not locked. don't bounce so you don't rip anything.
so I do both to get that entire band of muscles. having that bend over strength is so nice for the lower back.
I stretch like crazy every day, especially work my shoulders in every possible direction from when I separated it almost 2 yrs ago. I have 100% motion back from being diligent and not slacking for any reason all this time. I was so scared for months like was I going to be gimped out heh. fuck me running.
ok here is one example, I do mine more straight leg like opposite toe touches, but still never with knees locked.
also, when I start a new exercise, I try a few until I start feeling warmed up or they are getting some difficulty. i'll just do a couple every day for a week just to get myself used to the motion and sort of ready to hit it. then every week add to the total and do that amount for the week. you can sneak up to phenomenal quantities by putting in the time and diligence.
it truly is amazing what just a couple of 2-3 minute rounds of something here and there, but every day can do. i'm falling apart so i'm fighting for real.
Will try, thanks for the vid.
Quote from: jibberish on September 23, 2014, 02:09:49 PM
I have been meditating on why old people are so fucked up and fucking delicate. when an old person loses their balance they go down like they were headshot then shatter like a dropped tray of wine glasses. FUCK THAT NOISE
1)they lost leg strength, instead of doing extra to keep springy they only do enough to walk. old people don't jump anymore.
2)balance is shit. old people don't walk on curbs and do little kid balancing stuff anymore. leg strength helps in addition to just still practicing
3)cant shit, chest caving in , guts pouring out, back wasted, hernias. couldn't do a situp to save their life, core is gone GONE
4)cant fall like a little kid. no overall flexibility and muscle tone.
5)vulture necks from hunched over a desk all day, slouched in the car, slouched in the chair. repeat next and every day. they dont stretch.
scary as hell folks. if you need further encouragement, seriously speak with racerx. that's all i got. i am fucking scared and that motivates me, word.
I agree, it is scary. There are people younger than me in major pain that should have been avoidable. I've told myself I'm going to have a strong core into my 90s if I live that long but I know that the longer I wait the harder it will be to get going.
here is where I got my magnets in case yall needz one or two ;) http://www.therionmagnetics.com/
Quote from: liquidsmoke on September 23, 2014, 11:16:32 PM
Okay so you tie fishing line on to a magnet and an oxy and drop them spelunker down into your butthole, got it.
haha
Quote from: jibberish on September 23, 2014, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: RacerX on September 23, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
HYDROZEEN REFRIGITATOR MAGNENTS.
I will always laugh my ass off at this. I almost pulled the trigger and ordered some once upon a time..still may. I would love to have one on the fridge. it would cheer me up every day
I wonder if anyone makes a corset of a thousand wraps of fine copper wire. then when you come onto stage, you can just plug in , step on a pedal and your guitar full of magnets leaps off the stand..ka-chunk..you are ready to rock. fuck everyone's watches and phones in the first 3 rows
got one on my fridge right now ;D